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Speaker 1: Hilda. I'm Chelsea Daniels and from the team behind the

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Speaker 1: front page. The New Zealand Herald's daily news podcast, This

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Speaker 1: is Accused the Polkinghorn Trial. Over a series of weeks.

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Speaker 1: In conjunction with our usual daily episodes, we'll be bringing

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Speaker 1: you regular coverage as one of the most high profile

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Speaker 1: trials of the year makes its way through the High

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Speaker 1: Court at Auckland. A warning, this podcast contains disturbing content.

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Speaker 1: Philip Polkinghorn is accused of murdering his wife, Pauline Hannah,

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Speaker 1: who was found dead on April fifth, twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: He maintains she took her own life. Week eight of

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Speaker 1: the trial began with the Crown delivering their closing statement.

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Speaker 1: Now it's the defense's turn.

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Speaker 2: Your honor, mister Foreman and members of your jury. What

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Speaker 2: a final insult. The final insult doctor Pulkinghorn faces from

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Speaker 2: five April.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one through to the day's date has just

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Speaker 3: been made.

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Speaker 2: It suggested that he's blamed her, his own wife, for

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Speaker 2: her death. He's described as the master manipulator. The first

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Speaker 2: insult he faced was when the police attended at his

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Speaker 2: address on five April twenty twenty one, when they walk

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Speaker 2: through that door with our open mind, they would have

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Speaker 2: us believe, and I think we can accept. And then

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Speaker 2: very quickly saw the rope in the way in which

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Speaker 2: it was left by doctor Polkinghorn and gave it what

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Speaker 2: they describe as the tension check, and from there his

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Speaker 2: was alleged to have been involved.

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Speaker 3: In his wife's own death.

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Speaker 1: And so began the defense's closing argument, as given by

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Speaker 1: defense lawyer Ron Mansfield. He said, it has been a

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Speaker 1: long process leading up to the trial when Philip Polkinghorn

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Speaker 1: finally had the chance to show the evidence that vindicates

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Speaker 1: his position. Mansfield said his client wanted to help police

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Speaker 1: with his interview because he considered that was the right

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Speaker 1: thing to do. It was an insult because what lay

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Speaker 1: behind that was the suspicion they never informed him of

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Speaker 1: or gave him the opportunity to respond to then and there,

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Speaker 1: Mansfield said, despite grieving the death of his wife, Polkinghorn

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Speaker 2: A master manipulator need not have done so, but he

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Speaker 2: between taking messages, making calls, letting people know, as anyone

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Speaker 2: of us would like the dignity to do, to let

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Speaker 2: people know who loved Pauline off her passing, to allow

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Speaker 2: people to comfort you as you might when you suffer

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Speaker 2: such a loss. But nonetheless, during that interview, we know

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Speaker 2: this attention check took place, and we know things switched

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Speaker 2: officers to a focus now on establishing what they were

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Speaker 2: quickly coming to think was a potential homicide, despite any

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Speaker 1: They came into that address expecting a full suspension hanging,

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Speaker 1: said Mansfield, and failed to turn their mind to an

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Speaker 1: incomplete or partial suspension hanging. He said ambulance officers did

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Speaker 1: not harbor suspicions, no doubt, because of their more robust

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Speaker 1: he can understand the detective going upstairs and pulling on

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Speaker 2: Wasn't doctor Polkinghorn being asked to assist the police, It

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Speaker 2: they considered the situation to be suspicious and that he

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Speaker 2: might be a suspect for his own wife's death. Not

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Speaker 2: an interview, not from a grieving husband who might find

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Speaker 2: it cathartic to sit there and talk about his wife

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Speaker 2: and what he had found in the way in which

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Speaker 1: Mansfield said that Polkinghorn had no idea during his lengthy

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Speaker 1: had been set loose in his house. Mansfield says it

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Speaker 3: And will come back to that.

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Speaker 2: But when you think about the timing of that, and

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Speaker 2: entirely understandable at that point why he might seek to

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Speaker 2: delete or remove WhatsApp messages that revealed something which was

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Speaker 1: Mansfield said. The police sealed off the Upland Road home

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Speaker 1: April fifteen, and Polkinghorn had to investigate purchasing new clothes

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Speaker 1: her personal effects from the address. Hannah's autopsy happened on

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Speaker 1: Mansfield said Polkinghorn reached out to another pathologist because he

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Speaker 2: Further in soul, not treating him as a loved one,

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Speaker 2: not treating him with any respect, and giving him any

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Speaker 2: information in relation to the autopsy. And what would the

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Speaker 2: harm have been to share that information with him, To

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Speaker 2: share the information that she had died, albeit doctor Keisha

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Speaker 2: would have us accept by net compression as if that

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Speaker 2: was the only pathology outcome that could be given. What

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Speaker 2: what he had found and seen was entirely consistent with

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Speaker 1: Polkinghorn then asked to have his own pathologist you the

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Speaker 2: Why if he had known that he had taken his

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Speaker 3: What he was.

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Speaker 2: Seeking to do was just learn why this was being

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Speaker 1: Mansfield said. Tongues were wagging around Remuerra because of the

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Speaker 2: When this became public that the death was being treated

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Speaker 3: You were told by an authority to whom.

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Speaker 2: You thought you could place some reliance on for being

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Speaker 2: and that changes everybody's attitude other than those really close

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Speaker 2: What further insult could there be other than being accused,

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Speaker 1: Mansfield said it made people think differently when it eventually

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Speaker 1: Then there's the reality he is on his own. The

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Speaker 2: Firstly, as a result of this and police investigation and

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Speaker 3: He is not getting.

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Speaker 3: Of time that this address is out of bounds.

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Speaker 2: All others have been informed of the police suspicion, either

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Speaker 2: The only person, and a person he has known for

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Speaker 2: And secondly, given that she's the only person that's reaching

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Speaker 2: He might have thought that was the final insult he

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Speaker 2: the final insult came when it was suggested that he

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Speaker 2: Crown knowing full well that the forensic material in this

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Speaker 1: Mansfield said that the pathology and what was found at

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Speaker 1: by a partial or incomplete hanging. When you look at

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Speaker 1: the scene fairly, it was entirely consistent with Polkinghorn's police interview.

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Speaker 2: Answer has always been in the pathology. The answer is

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Speaker 2: still in the pathology. The problem is the answer doesn't

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Speaker 2: justify the way in which doctor Polkinghorn was treated. The

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Speaker 2: Justify the very long way he had to wait until

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Speaker 2: and that is the only reason why. The absence of

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Speaker 3: A trial run by emotion.

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Speaker 2: Allows our murder mystery fantasies to run wild. And what

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Speaker 3: It was like a binge of every murder.

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Speaker 3: The murder.

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Speaker 2: The police wrote the murder they started writing immediately after

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Speaker 1: Mansfield said, of the four pathologists heard in the case,

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Speaker 3: We have unmarked the phantom.

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Speaker 1: It's a phantom murder that none of the four pathologists

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Speaker 2: It sounds absurd because it is it sounds unachievable because.

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Speaker 1: The other injuries to Hannah's body, like her nose, her back,

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Speaker 2: Doesn't it point to some form of injury of an assault,

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Speaker 2: Its emotional plea that this was a homicidal strangulation which must,

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Speaker 3: The evidence that you have heard in this trial. That's

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Speaker 2: That's the crown and you going rogue if you agree

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Speaker 1: Blood pulling in her legs and the disappearing belt mark

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Speaker 2: It's murder, one oh one. For there to be a murder,

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Speaker 2: their first must be a culpable homicide. And we've already

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Speaker 2: strangulation has been established, and it hasn't. Every good murder

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Speaker 1: Mansfield said that Alicia McClintock's framing of Polkinghorn as the

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Speaker 1: He said that the Crown solicitor has attributed an arrogance

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Speaker 2: None of us would want to be exposed as the

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Speaker 2: His entire lifestyle has been laid bare. I would say,

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Speaker 1: Mansfield said, Polkinghorn had a number of faults and some

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Speaker 1: But this is not a court of morals. That includes

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Speaker 1: Mansfield said the evidence shows that Hannah was involved at

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to suggest that Physic and John

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Speaker 3: But I am going to.

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Speaker 2: Sedest that you need to look with Kia at what

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Speaker 2: I'm not physically bettered, i am not abused. I am safe, Darling,

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Speaker 1: There is absolutely no other evidence of physical violence in

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Speaker 1: Onto the mathe Use, Mansfield said Crown witness Dr Emma

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Speaker 2: And you might just see that from the basic stats

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Speaker 1: Thirty seven point seven grams of math may have been

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Speaker 4: Mansfield said, if a relationship was tested, if she fared

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Speaker 2: Concerned about how that might appear to others, especially if

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Speaker 3: It seems odd, you.

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Speaker 2: Might think, when if he was interested in a relationship

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Speaker 1: The Crown relies on a number of actions they say

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Speaker 2: There is nothing indicative of this search unmasking the murderer

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Speaker 2: do is to find out why it's thought that his

442
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: wife's death was suspicious and whether the swelling he's noted

443
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 2: in her leg might be indicative of that concern, and

444
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: you know it wasn't. It wasn't indicative of that concern,

445
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: because that kind of swelling is indicative of death by

446
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: way of homicidal strangulation as much as it is death

447
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: by way of suicide.

448
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: Mansfield said that police had no reason to influence Paul

449
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: Adrian's into not making a statement other than saying people

450
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: don't have to talk to police onto Alison Ring. Interactions

451
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: between the two souring was understandable, but there's nothing suspicious

452
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: in him showing her the note he believed to be

453
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: a suer side note from Hannah. On the Crown's suggestion

454
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: that Polkinghorn planted blood on the steps of his home

455
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: to explain his head injury, there was no evidence otherwise

456
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: of any altercation with Hannah, and the injury to his

457
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 1: head could be described as nonspecific, Mansfield said. Polkinghorn always

458
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: knew there was going to be the risk of contamination,

459
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: and the report furnished to the Crown makes that clear,

460
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: but consistent with an innocent man. He went to the

461
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: expense of enlisting overseas expert Dr Timothy Scanlon to assess

462
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: that area.

463
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 4: Mansfield said, why would you go to that cost and

464
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 4: face that obvious criticism unless you were driven to prove

465
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 4: as beast you could that you didn't have an altercation

466
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: with your wife and this was not an injury caused

467
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 4: by that altercation, even though you knew that.

468
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: But no pathologist, no doctor could say it was specific

469
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: of an altercation, And if there had been an altercation,

470
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: they would have expected quite different injuries to different parts

471
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: of both of them. The reality is that that evidence,

472
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: despite criticism, simply establishes his motivation to establish his innocence.

473
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: And onto the blood found between Hannah's fingers.

474
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: Not one pathologist placed any weight on the blood that

475
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: could be found between her fingers as indicative or of

476
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: assistance to you in relation to the manner upon which

477
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: your death might have occurred. And that's relevant, folks, because

478
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: now the crown seek to rely on that is somehow

479
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 2: indicative of it being a homicidal killing.

480
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: Rather than death.

481
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: By way of hanging, whereas the expert evidence you have

482
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: heard tends to suggest that also.

483
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: Other factors like redness on Hannah's legs, bruises on her

484
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: right arm, and the disappearing beltmark are consistent with what

485
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: Polkinghorn reported about Hannah's death. When you think about the

486
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: suggestion that he is a master manipulator, Mansfield asked the

487
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: jury to consider the other aspects of Polkinghorn. Mansfield turned

488
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: to people who spoke highly of the accused, noting that

489
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: they do so despite knowing they'd be named and associated

490
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: with him. He referenced colleagues and patients who thought highly

491
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: of him, of how Polkinghorn would wave fees on surgeries

492
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: for those who couldn't afford them, even meeting them on weekends.

493
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: Despite this, Mansfield said, Polkinghorn is not a perfect man,

494
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: but none of us are, and the jury can't deliver

495
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: just if they only focus on the negative.

496
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: None of us would like all our messages drawled through

497
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: our inter net searchers, reviewed by others, or our personal

498
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: lives turned upside down in the way in which his

499
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: life and his wife's life was turned upside down as

500
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: a necessity because of this allegation. None of us could

501
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: stand there and say we are perfect, and none of

502
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: us would try if we knew that that kind of

503
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: review of our lives would take place. There would always

504
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: be things we wouldn't want others to know, and there

505
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: would always be things that we would want to keep

506
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: to ourselves and not be judged for. If you expect

507
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: that for yourself, I just asked that you expect and

508
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: ensure that for him.

509
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: Police.

510
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: Paulkinghorn didn't need to provide his voluntary statement to police,

511
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: Mansfield said, but he thought he was doing justice to Hannah.

512
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: If he was this intelligent master manipulator, then he would

513
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: be in that interview driving home a couple of things.

514
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: He would be in that interview driving home how he

515
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: found his wife, and being very clear around the arrangement,

516
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: the way in which the rope was tied, how long

517
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: it was horrod was connected to the belt, and how

518
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: the belt was around her neck.

519
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: He would be able to.

520
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: Tell you about that with clarity or the detective, because

521
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 2: that would be key to the very setup he's meant

522
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: to have made this mocked suicide. What would be the

523
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 2: point of going to this effort of showing a mock

524
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: suicide in then not being able to tell the police

525
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: with some accuracy around how it was.

526
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: If Polkinghorn was a mastermind, cold blooded killer, he wouldn't

527
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: have got Hannah down and covered her with a sheet.

528
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: Despite what people think about his interest with sex workers

529
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: and fascination with pornography. Polkinghorn loved Hannah and she loved him.

530
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: Man's Field said he told the jury those who have

531
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: had long term relationships or friendships will know they're not

532
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: always perfect. Onto the evidence from the electricity experts, Mansfield said,

533
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: both of them said the washing machine could have been

534
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: used up until eleven thirty pm the night before her death.

535
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: That's important because it shows her large acrylic toenail did

536
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: not come off in the fight. On Hannah's room, Mansfield

537
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: said it was not disheveled, but in a state of

538
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: being tidied, and Hannah had planned on finishing doing the

539
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: washing later. Mansfield then addressed Hannah's trip to the tip

540
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: and said it showed she knew where the rope was.

541
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: He said there also isn't any evidence of the rope

542
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: being cut that night.

543
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: Doctor Polkinghorn talks and his interview about handling the rope

544
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: days earlier and sealing the rope by burning the inns.

545
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: He doesn't talk about two ripes and a fair in

546
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: the interview. He seems very confused by the suggestion that

547
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 2: there were two ropes, which adds weight to this point

548
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: I've made earlier that if he had secured the rope

549
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 2: to secure her in a way to mask her death

550
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: by suicide, he would know whether there was one or

551
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: two ropes and make it very clear, because why would

552
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: he not want to look very clear about that? But

553
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: there was no rope cut as part of the exercise

554
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: of Pauline taking her own life. If so, there would

555
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: have been tailtale signs of rope fiber found in that

556
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: house and around, and Fiona Mathison would have found it

557
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 2: because she was specifically looking for it.

558
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: He said. It's pointless to view Polkinghorn's phone being placed

559
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: on airplane mode as being suspicious, as the only benefit

560
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: of this would be to track his movements if he

561
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: left the address, which no one in this case is.

562
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: Polkinghorn only remembered his phone was on airplane mode after

563
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: his one one one call, and he told police about

564
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: the airplane mode situation, Mansfield said. Polkinghorn also never said

565
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: he turned on the toaster and the jug at the

566
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: same time, only that he put toast in the toaster.

567
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: It needed to be responded to because this suggestion he

568
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: didn't turn the jag on and put toast and the

569
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: toaster became a key point for the Crown in trying

570
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: to establish he was telling lies. Believe it or not,

571
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: Tea and Toast was meant to disclose whether he was truthful.

572
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: Removing the belt from around Hannah's neck and lying her

573
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: down is entirely a natural consequence and would not have

574
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: been convoluted. Polkinghorn's account of the rope matches with the evidence,

575
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: and the rope expert confirmed the knot would have held

576
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: Hannah's weight, Mansfield said. On the cut on his head,

577
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: Polkinghorn told the police he didn't know how he got it,

578
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: but one of the Crown prosecutors described it as a cut,

579
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: not a scratch. Mansfield said it could have happened at

580
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: any occasion. On Hannah's mental health, Mansfield said the death

581
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: of her mother, fears of Polkinghorn seeing someone else, the

582
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: combination of medication and alcohol, and her perfectionist attitude can

583
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: contribute to poor mental health or depression. Mansfield said there's

584
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: no evidence she was dragged after her death, or that

585
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: there was a fight between the two that left her

586
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: with no injuries.

587
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 2: It's implausible tissitis that could happen, that her life could

588
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: be taken by way of a homicidal strangulation, and there

589
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: be no injury and or a sign anywhere in that

590
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: bedroom consistent with that. No urine, no blood, no DNA nothing,

591
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 2: no damage, no scrape, no dragging, nothing.

592
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: The other suggestion put to the jury by the Crown

593
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: is that Polkinghorn did it by stealth, that he managed

594
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: to achieve his wife's death without leaving an injury, and

595
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: he was able to bring her downstairs to mock up

596
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: the hanging. Mansfield said this suggestion made no sense as

597
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 1: there was no premeditation, no planning, no evidence he planned

598
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: to kill his wife. He alleges this is some of

599
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: the most gravest nonsense New Zealand courts had heard for

600
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: a long time. Continuing on mental health, Mansfield addressed to

601
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: the evidence of Hannah's sister Tracy. Mansfield said he fully

602
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: accepts anxiety and depression can come and go, but said

603
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: it's important not to lose sight of the evidence about

604
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: Hannah's mental health issues. He reminded the jury of evidence

605
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: from Hannah's sister, Tracy Hannah, who claimed Hannah told her

606
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: she'd tried to kill herself back in nineteen ninety two,

607
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: who Mansfield said that the suggestion Tracy has lied about.

608
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: This is unfortunate.

609
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: She was upfront and told you what she knew in

610
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: the extent of it, and she was text about what

611
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: she did or didn't do back then when she was

612
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: a young person herself, and she needed to respond to

613
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 2: that as be she could, and entirely emotional circumstances. Anyway,

614
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: I obviously endorsed that evidence as reliable was given to

615
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: the police. It was consistently given to you, and it

616
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: wasn't embellished in any way that you might expect it

617
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: could have been if it was aimed at assisting one

618
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: party over the other.

619
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: Mansfield said that Hannah had tensions with her brother Bruce

620
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: over dealings with their family farm. He said that in

621
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: Hannah's own words in the Longlands recording, she spoke about

622
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: not being physically battered, though perhaps emotionally so, and that

623
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: she loved Polkinghorn and didn't want to leave him, despite

624
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: knowing other men who fancied her. Mansfield said no one

625
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: was forcing her to participate in the sexual activity with

626
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: sex workers, and when she wanted to stop, she did.

627
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 1: Hannah's own emails detail how Polkinghorn was being supportive during

628
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: her work stresses. Other witnesses testified about noticing Hannah's stress.

629
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: In early twenty twenty one, Hannah's boss approached her over

630
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: her habit of sending emails early in the morning. In closing,

631
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: Mansfield said, there cannot be a suggestion that Hannah was

632
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: trapped from a relationship that she couldn't exit. If Polkinghorn

633
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: didn't realize how good he had it, that's a matter

634
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: for the couple. And there's a difference between being selfish

635
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: or self focused and taking someone's life emotions aside. All

636
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: the evidence clearly establishes that Pauline died by suicide. Mansfield said,

637
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: there is.

638
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: No justice for Pauline if you ignore her vulnerabilities and

639
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: do not respect the decision she took. That is not respect,

640
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: That is not understanding, and that is not following your oath.

641
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: It is just being emotional vigilantes. We all need to

642
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: expect more. The decision you make must be on the evidence,

643
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: that is the oath that you swore. It can't be

644
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: based on emotion, and it can't be based on a

645
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 2: foundless theory that he wanted her out of his life

646
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: and he was prepared to kill her, for which there

647
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: is no forensic evidence to support. Hold him morally to

648
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: account if need be, as he has been in this

649
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: very public way. But you cannot convict a man of

650
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: murder when they did not do it out of anger

651
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: or sympathy, let alone the man poorly loved with all

652
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: her heart.

653
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 3: Is that the way she should be remembered.

654
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: If you believe in the need for evidence of a

655
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: crime before you convict any man, the crown obligation to

656
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: prove a charge here at deliberate killing to the required standard,

657
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: and you believe in honoring your oath, you already know

658
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: the correct verdict in this case, and it's not necessary

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