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Speaker 2: Good afternoon. Australia is renegging on its agreement not to

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Speaker 2: deport kiwi's who've largely lived their lives in Australia. The

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Speaker 2: Aussie Immigration Minister Andrew Giles is replacing the so called

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Speaker 2: Direction ninety nine, which considered a deporty's ties to Australia

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Speaker 2: before okaying the deportation. It's now going to be replaced

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Speaker 2: with Direction one one zero, which puts more emphasis on

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Speaker 2: protecting the Australian community. He says non citizens with a

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Speaker 2: history of family or sexual violence should be deported, even

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Speaker 2: if they've lived most of their lives in Australia. And

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Speaker 2: he was asked what New Zealand's response to this has been.

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Speaker 3: My concern is to act in the national interest. I

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Speaker 3: telephoned as I told the Parliament the Deputy Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: Winston Peters to tell him about our intention to put

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Speaker 3: in place, and you revised to record to ensure that

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Speaker 3: the principles of common sense and the protection of the

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Speaker 3: Australian community or paramount when it came to these conditions.

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Speaker 2: Murrio Old is our Aussie correspondent.

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Speaker 4: Hey, maas very good Affernoon.

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Speaker 2: Do you have that this is basically going back to

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Speaker 2: the way it was, isn't it? Anyone with a sniff

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Speaker 2: of a connection to New Zealand has come in this way?

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, pretty much. And you know, I mean that

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Speaker 4: came in under Scott Morrison, maybe even you know, Tony

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Speaker 4: Abbott or whatever. The revolving door of Liberal prime ministers

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Speaker 4: was in the nine years before Albanezy got in. But

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Speaker 4: Labor fair and square, I mean, honest to god, this

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Speaker 4: is politics one oh one and Labour's only got itself

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Speaker 4: to blame. Heather. It introduced Direction ninety nine, as you say,

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Speaker 4: on the back of that promise between Albanisi and Jacindra Adern. Yes,

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Speaker 4: New Zealand would not be copying all these Aussie grown criminals.

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Speaker 4: The fact that New zealand And citizens came here as

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Speaker 4: a baby or you know, two or three years old,

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Speaker 4: they've grown up in Australia and become criminals here. Why

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Speaker 4: isn't New Zealand's problem. Adern had a very good point

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Speaker 4: and Albani. He agreed with that, and so that's where

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Speaker 4: Direction ninety nine came in. I mean, it's just all

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Speaker 4: welly and its dreadful sort of language. Okay, So under

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Speaker 4: Direction ninety nine, the primary consideration for the Administrative Appeals Tribunal,

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Speaker 4: that's the body of public servants set up to look

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Speaker 4: at this issue. Are you going to be deported or

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Speaker 4: are you not? And let's be you know, honestly, it's

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Speaker 4: not about parking tickets we're talking about here, Heather. We're

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Speaker 4: talking about serious criminals, rapists, child sex abuses, murderers. For

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Speaker 4: God's sake, these are the people that Australia doesn't want

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Speaker 4: here where are going to take them? We're going to

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Speaker 4: send them back to New Zealand under this new one.

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Speaker 4: And the Government has just been getting kicked from pillar

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Speaker 4: to post for the last fortnight, three weeks over this

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Speaker 4: ridiculous Direction ninety nine. How they get themselves out of

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Speaker 4: this hole with them with Wellington, I'm not sure, but

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Speaker 4: politically they just could not continue like this because poor

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Speaker 4: old Andrew Giles is sitting up there like some Punch

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Speaker 4: and Judy show, and Peter Dutton's got the great Big.

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Speaker 2: Bat is Jile's going to keep his job or is he?

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Speaker 2: Dog Tucker?

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Speaker 4: Mate, Look, here's the thing. Apparently I didn't realize this

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Speaker 4: until this whole thing blew up, But apparently Andrew Giles,

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Speaker 4: and Andrew and Anthony ALBANIZI are besties. They go back, way,

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Speaker 4: way way back, and they are from the same political faction.

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Speaker 4: I understand. That's what I read this week. Anyway. I mean,

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Speaker 4: to be honest, I've never heard of Andrew Giles. He's

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Speaker 4: just one of these anonymous front benchers who every government

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Speaker 4: is stacked with. They don't do very much or where

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Speaker 4: they don't sort of make too many headlines. And so

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Speaker 4: he's there sort of stumbling and bubbling through this portfolio.

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Speaker 4: He just looked like an absolutely hopeless dult out of

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Speaker 4: his death. And so whether or not Albanize, He's got

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Speaker 4: him in the back room with a rubber hose and said, mate,

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Speaker 4: you've got to sort this out. So now we have

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Speaker 4: Direction ninety nine replaced with Direction one hundred and ten.

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Speaker 4: Just tell me what don't mean?

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Speaker 2: You tell me just real quickly. Is it retrospective? Is

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Speaker 2: this going to apply to the people who've already been

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Speaker 2: spared deportation under Direction ninety nine.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not, because Giles has used one hundred and

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Speaker 4: ten to recancel the viasas of thirty five non citizens

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Speaker 4: whose cancelations were overturned. Right, Yeah, so those thirty five

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Speaker 4: who actually appealed successfully appealed hither to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal.

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Speaker 4: Oh listen, I've got a very strong tie to the

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Speaker 4: Australian community. I might have an Australian wife, might have

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Speaker 4: Australian children, might of Australian family connections that go back

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Speaker 4: thirty forty fifty years. I only came over from New

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Speaker 4: Zealand when I was six months old. The government now

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Speaker 4: is bowing to the political inevitability of all of this.

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Speaker 4: It says, okay, sorry, you're not a citizen. Back you

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Speaker 4: go to New Zealand. How that's going to go down

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Speaker 4: and willing and I don't know. But by the way

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Speaker 4: over here and now you've got forty legal civil society

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Speaker 4: human rights groups are saying, oh Didhams did THEMS? It's

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Speaker 4: far too harsh politically, the government's had no choice made.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, totally, Ruth you, muz, Thank you as always.

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Speaker 2: Marry Old's Australia correspondent for more.

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