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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Sports Fix for the fourteenth of February
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. My name is Darcy watergrave Van. Coming
Speaker 2: up on this edition of The Fix. The first up
Speaker 2: we're going to have to chair with the chief executive
Speaker 2: officer of the mL ARTIST Major League Rugby out of
Speaker 2: the United States of America. His name is that Nick Benson.
Speaker 2: Will talk the lie of the land for our favorite
Speaker 2: game and the Land of the Free, the home of
Speaker 2: the Brave. The list goes on. I've got an opinion
Speaker 2: on what the nz R should do now in face
Speaker 2: off being stuck with the logo on their training gear
Speaker 2: in shorts that they don't want anyos will just not
Speaker 2: go away and joining us in the chamber consecutive days
Speaker 2: usera Sidivice Disney. His name is Elliot Smith News Talks
Speaker 2: to be Sports Journalists and of course the voice of rugby.
Speaker 2: Here for n z Emmy as we throw around some
Speaker 2: of the bigger topics of the day. This is sports
Speaker 2: Folks of a Friday thanks very much for joining us. Right,
Speaker 2: let's do it.
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Speaker 1: New Scadapion. It's Sports X with Dancie Valde Greve.
Speaker 2: We go now to the USA where we're joined by
Speaker 2: the m l R. That's a Major League rugby CEO's
Speaker 2: name is Nick Benton. He joins us. Now, good day
Speaker 2: to you, Nick Edning. Your competition starts this weekend as well.
Speaker 2: It starts off with a game the Sharks and the
Speaker 2: Old Glory. Then you got five more games. Your competition
Speaker 2: is nearly as big as Super for rugby. How did
Speaker 2: that happen?
Speaker 4: You know, we're people don't understand often how big of
Speaker 4: a country it is. We've got three hundred million people.
Speaker 4: It's almost like, you know, five different countries within you know,
Speaker 4: within one. So we're hyper regional, you know, we're hyper
Speaker 4: focused on growth. So for us, what's really important is
Speaker 4: being having teams in markets and having teams that are
Speaker 4: in markets doing the work to grow the sport that
Speaker 4: we play. Right, there's no better advocate for a sport
Speaker 4: than a team owner who is making an investment in
Speaker 4: a team and trying to grow the sport, building grassroots programs,
Speaker 4: getting players and staff into schools, trying to get more
Speaker 4: and more boys and girls playing the game. The long
Speaker 4: term pathway to rugby being successful in the United States
Speaker 4: runs through grassroots, and it runs through getting kids playing
Speaker 4: the game, which starts with getting them exposed to the game.
Speaker 4: And whether it's the school program, a PE class, an
Speaker 4: MLR game, you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: So it's being talked about is a sleeping giant but
Speaker 2: not really roused from its dose at the hair close?
Speaker 2: Do you think United States of America is just standing
Speaker 2: up and roaring? Because what you got the World Cup
Speaker 2: coming in our twenty thirty one. Plainly everything you're doing
Speaker 2: right now must point to that. Because if that doesn't
Speaker 2: wake you guys up or the public, more's the point.
Speaker 2: I don't think anything will.
Speaker 4: So much of what we're doing right now is built
Speaker 4: around twenty thirty one, and it goes, you know, right
Speaker 4: down to the grassroots programs or building a fan base
Speaker 4: and building exposure and building awareness for the sports that
Speaker 4: we have. You know, we want to have a massive Yeah,
Speaker 4: we're gonna have visitors from overseas, but we want to
Speaker 4: have American fans sitting in the stands. We want to
Speaker 4: have American fans sitting in the stands cheering on an
Speaker 4: American team. You know, there's a lot that's happening to
Speaker 4: build that. You know, one of the big programs that
Speaker 4: I would point to when we're trying to build an
Speaker 4: American team is what we've done in with Anthem as
Speaker 4: our North Carolina team. They play out of Charlotte. That's
Speaker 4: actually a joint venture between MLR and World Rugby, and
Speaker 4: the purpose of that team is to get young American
Speaker 4: talent getting high level professional minutes. So you know, those
Speaker 4: are all we're almost all American players with a few
Speaker 4: strategic foreigners who come in for experience and to kind
Speaker 4: of help anchor and and you know, to coach up
Speaker 4: their their teammates. But it's an American focused team. It's
Speaker 4: getting those young men minutes on the field. There's no
Speaker 4: substitute for professional minutes when it comes to developing an
Speaker 4: international rugby player. It's helping them build cohesion and playing
Speaker 4: time playing together. You saw you saw much better performance
Speaker 4: by the Eagles this last summer in their last summer
Speaker 4: tour they want. They won a few key games going
Speaker 4: in and more importantly, more than the results you saw,
Speaker 4: much more cohesive and connected side. Scott Lawrence has done
Speaker 4: a great job building that out over the last over
Speaker 4: the last couple of years. He deserves a ton of credit.
Speaker 4: And that's just one part of it. You know, there's
Speaker 4: U twenties programs that that he's funding right now through
Speaker 4: USA Rugby, taking tours to to to South Africa and
Speaker 4: other places where you know that you're playing with young
Speaker 4: men of similar age who have a higher sort of
Speaker 4: rugby age because they've just been playing for longer. That's
Speaker 4: our biggest challenge. We have talent. There's an abundance of
Speaker 4: talent in this country where you're a passive country, there's
Speaker 4: an abundance of talent, but most of the talent is
Speaker 4: picking up the game when they're fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and
Speaker 4: it's very hard to develop an international player at a
Speaker 4: key skill position who's picking up the game at that age.
Speaker 4: Rights it's hard to develop the instincts.
Speaker 2: We know not is playing San Diego. What other involvement
Speaker 2: have New Zealand has had, kay it is to tap
Speaker 2: into that IP players, administrators and the like as well
Speaker 2: as there much of a kinection and arrangement there.
Speaker 4: Nick, Yeah, there's there's actually a pretty significant there's a
Speaker 4: lot of crossover with New Zealand. You know, we have
Speaker 4: a ton of players who actually play at NPC during
Speaker 4: our offseason and go back and forth. That's continuing to evolve.
Speaker 4: Those are team relationships. We have a ton of KIV
Speaker 4: coaches that I used to be with the Utah Warriors
Speaker 4: before I came back to the league office. You know,
Speaker 4: we have Greg Cooper coaching there, so he's he's a
Speaker 4: He's a great dude and a fantastic coach. You are.
Speaker 4: Our twenty twenty three Player of the Year was Jason Petrose,
Speaker 4: obviously a KIWI are twenty twenty four Back of the
Speaker 4: Year was Reese McDonald. So we haven't yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4: I actually had someone pull this stat for me before
Speaker 4: we can call. We have about sixty sixty KIWI players
Speaker 4: playing in the league. So so for us, it's it's
Speaker 4: it's a really important market.
Speaker 2: You've signed a deal with ESPN. How relevant is that?
Speaker 2: How important is that? And does this mean New Zealand
Speaker 2: audiences are going to be carrying on or be able
Speaker 2: to carry on watching the MLL.
Speaker 4: So interesting that you should ask that question because I've
Speaker 4: got a piece of news. I'm and a break here
Speaker 4: for you in a second. ESPN is hugely important. It's
Speaker 4: the town square for sports in the United States. It's
Speaker 4: it's got twenty eight odd million subs. You know, we
Speaker 4: love TRN and well can you to operate TRN as
Speaker 4: a platform for rugby fans. But if we're going to
Speaker 4: grow and get outside of our ecosystem and bring new
Speaker 4: fans to the sport, we have to go to where
Speaker 4: the sports fans are. That's why we're going to ESPN
Speaker 4: for New Zealand. We're actually finalizing a deal today with
Speaker 4: Sky New Zealand, so Sky New Zealand will be carrying
Speaker 4: our games coming into this year. They gave me permission
Speaker 4: about ten minutes before I got on this interview to
Speaker 4: make that announcement. So we're actually really really excited about that.
Speaker 4: So they'll carry one game, we expect them to carry
Speaker 4: one game live on Linear and the rest will be
Speaker 4: streamed by Sky New Zealand. So we're really excited about
Speaker 4: that partnership because we know that's that's where that's where
Speaker 4: rugby lives in New Zealand, so we want to be there.
Speaker 2: You guys gonna set up a super rugby franchise because
Speaker 2: you know you are on the Pacific, on the waist
Speaker 2: skist anyway and steam on over here over owy. Is
Speaker 2: it a possibility?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: We're focused on building MLR and making MLR and making
Speaker 4: MLR the highest, the highest level of rugby the week
Speaker 4: in may it and making it as good or better.
Speaker 4: But I do look forward to some crossovers. Actually, our
Speaker 4: our LA team played played the DRUA in a preseason
Speaker 4: fixture two or three weeks ago. It was a pretty
Speaker 4: competitive match, and we hope to have more of that,
Speaker 4: you know, with with the rest of the rugby world,
Speaker 4: because if we're not measuring ourselves against the best rugby
Speaker 4: out there, we can't hope, we can't hope to match it.
Speaker 2: Love what I've heard, I'm sure the listeners have, as
Speaker 2: well as the MLR CEO, Nick Benson. We thank you
Speaker 2: very much for your time, your readiness to share all
Speaker 2: of your information and the positive stories around the future
Speaker 2: of our national sport in the USA. Nick, look after yourself,
Speaker 2: have a great weekend, and I hope the opening round
Speaker 2: goes as well as our opening rounds too. I love
Speaker 2: the way it combines. It's a wonderful Thanks Nick.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Sports Ams. It are more than Pope to the bear.
Speaker 2: They smacked the bear in the face the beer, of
Speaker 2: course I'm talking about. Is any Us, the vast albeit
Speaker 2: rep breaking apart and losing money petrochemical company run by
Speaker 2: sid Jim Ratcliffe. They decided it'd be a good idea
Speaker 2: not to pay the bill because they're a bit short
Speaker 2: of coin ends and I went, yeah, no, I'm not
Speaker 2: really happy with that, and we're not happy with the
Speaker 2: fact you want to cancel your sponsorship as well. We're
Speaker 2: relying on that money. So after a bit of negotiation,
Speaker 2: I presume they turned around to Anios and said, we're
Speaker 2: taking you to court. The problem here is that the Sevens,
Speaker 2: both the Black Fern Sevens and the All Black Sevens,
Speaker 2: play this weekend in Canada. They're playing in kit with
Speaker 2: Anios already emblazoned on them. That's on the training gear
Speaker 2: and on the shorts when they're playing as well. Apparently
Speaker 2: it's too late to get new kit. There's also the
Speaker 2: thought process that they wouldn't be indulging in covering up
Speaker 2: the Anios logo even though they'll be quite within their
Speaker 2: rights to do so. I appreciate Enios would be rather
Speaker 2: upset if NZR went through and darned over their logos,
Speaker 2: or maybe got some printers ink and a roller and
Speaker 2: covered them up. But they started this, and even though
Speaker 2: it may seem petty from endz R to cover the
Speaker 2: logos up, who cares. If they wanted to be really petty,
Speaker 2: they could how about advertising the fact that they'd really
Speaker 2: like to wear old training gear and old seven shorts.
Speaker 2: And if anyone in the crowd would like to come
Speaker 2: along and bring their old gear, I'll swap them out
Speaker 2: for the Anios kit that they don't want to wear.
Speaker 2: It's a poke in the eye. Or better still, get
Speaker 2: all of their kit, put it in the middle of
Speaker 2: the park before the opening of the Canadian Sevens, cover
Speaker 2: it in Enios product, and set fire to the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Again extraordinarily petty, But in the face of a multi
Speaker 2: billion dollar man who appears to be held bent, I'm
Speaker 2: destroying all of the sports sponsorships. Why not play the
Speaker 2: silly game.
Speaker 1: The chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2: We swing open the chamber doors and joining us is
Speaker 2: like it You're a recidivist Elliot Smith joining us again.
Speaker 3: I have left since yesterday.
Speaker 2: Our voice of rugby smells a bit rich and maybe
Speaker 2: that's why welcommended to the chamber always discussion around sporting topics.
Speaker 2: Of course, Elliott not only is our voice of rugby,
Speaker 2: he's a news talks b sports journalist to boot So seventeen.
Speaker 2: This is interesting, isn't it. They're still going to be
Speaker 2: wearing their Anios branding even though it's not paid for,
Speaker 2: and this is because they just haven't got enough time
Speaker 2: to change the jerseys.
Speaker 3: I suppose you could set them in and start get
Speaker 3: everyone you know working bee, start peeling off the NIOS
Speaker 3: logo or maybe it's subliminated on and you can't do that.
Speaker 3: But I suppose short notice, and this has only come
Speaker 3: because of the court action that was filed earlier this
Speaker 3: week that you know they would have already gone all,
Speaker 3: had it packed and ready to go getting those shorts
Speaker 3: of different notice. You think it may have if you
Speaker 3: back up somewhere that they could stash them.
Speaker 2: Do you think maybe Sunny Beal could turn up, because
Speaker 2: there's pretty adept to getting rid of the ben zlgo
Speaker 2: back in the day, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: Just get some tape, just get some band aids or
Speaker 3: whatever it might be. You know that that medical tape
Speaker 3: and just tape it over.
Speaker 2: And it's only the training jerseys, it's not actually on
Speaker 2: the pitch and the back of the shorts. Is that
Speaker 2: still with the sevenths you sit in the back of
Speaker 2: the shorts. Okay, so not dominant.
Speaker 3: But I'm presuming when michaeleb Lyde or Georgia Miller's scorching
Speaker 3: away for a try, you'll be seeing in the os
Speaker 3: and the on.
Speaker 2: The sidelines and their training gears in the sideline. They'll
Speaker 2: be very, very obvious to see it. So do you
Speaker 2: see this? If they do say we're not going to
Speaker 2: we're going to change it, We're going to take them off.
Speaker 2: Is this petty from Enza?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think they're well within their rights.
Speaker 3: They haven't got the money to justify in the os
Speaker 3: being on the on the shorts or on the jerseys,
Speaker 3: whatever it might be. So if you're not being paid
Speaker 3: money to advertise, why would you hand out free bees?
Speaker 3: New Zealand Rugby aren't in the business of dishing up
Speaker 3: free bees when they don't have to they're a profit
Speaker 3: not definitely a profit driven organization, but they need commercial income.
Speaker 3: When you're not getting it, there's no need to advertise
Speaker 3: this brand. So if they can get rid of it,
Speaker 3: I'm sure they will in time, because why would you
Speaker 3: want to give any os a free plug?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they've already poked the bear. In fact, they
Speaker 2: smack the beer around the face with a stick. So
Speaker 2: this would they infuriate that one. You can't really make
Speaker 2: the situation any worse.
Speaker 3: They're already going to court or have legal action formed.
Speaker 3: I don't think anything else would necessarily inflame any os.
Speaker 3: In fact, for any Os, they're getting a bit of
Speaker 3: free advertising out of it. They haven't paid the dollars.
Speaker 3: There's going to be a talking point over the next
Speaker 3: few days and next week into this tournament. So for
Speaker 3: them bit of free advertising they can they probably need
Speaker 3: as much as they can get it.
Speaker 2: The money I can't be that difficult. Either. You get
Speaker 2: like a roll or a bit of black ink on it.
Speaker 2: Just roll them over there, you go over.
Speaker 3: Get the vivid out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very very important, I say, And not what about
Speaker 2: the all blacks got time of time?
Speaker 3: Be very surprised if they don't get the All Blacks
Speaker 3: sort of work.
Speaker 2: What my suggestion is, if you've got your hands on
Speaker 2: on anything that's any branded ready All Blacks, keep it
Speaker 2: because it could be worth quite a bit of money.
Speaker 3: Jim Radcliffe might.
Speaker 2: Want indeed, l IV Golf. We've all got our opinion
Speaker 2: on liv GOLFI I think they want the President Trump
Speaker 2: to try and drag them all back together again. Of
Speaker 2: that works and I don't know, but we've got TV
Speaker 2: in z picking up the right. So the important thing
Speaker 2: here is that it's free to wear, which is kind
Speaker 2: of ironic considering the money in golf.
Speaker 3: And look, it's been free to wear on YouTube for
Speaker 3: a couple of seasons.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I don't know that too many New Zealanders would have
Speaker 3: watched too much, but there is an interest level with
Speaker 3: this year with not only Danny Lee there, but Ben
Speaker 3: Campbell in the mix, this Weekend's tournaments and Adelaide, so
Speaker 3: it's a good time zone for New Zealand. So it's
Speaker 3: a real hook to get New Zealanders involved. And it's
Speaker 3: all very well being on YouTube. But how many videos
Speaker 3: are on YouTube? Several million? I know the cricket's being
Speaker 3: streamed on there as well.
Speaker 2: I found it the other day a released from New
Speaker 2: Zealand Cricket and I've got that. I don't want to
Speaker 2: say like I'm advertising for sky because they don't like
Speaker 2: pay men. They don't give me a free box. But
Speaker 2: I'm got that new skybox really easy to access things
Speaker 2: like YouTube and Netflix and everything else. It's not such
Speaker 2: a grind anymore.
Speaker 3: Just as in a side, if you know what you're
Speaker 3: looking for it, and you know you're searching for live golf,
Speaker 3: it's great or all the cricket itself. It doesn't necessarily
Speaker 3: pop up on the home page unless it's part of
Speaker 3: your algorithm. But what TV and Z will be able
Speaker 3: to do is give it a push and go to
Speaker 3: the people that are watching Shorten Street or Dad the
Speaker 3: Jack or whatever's on TV and Z Plus and the
Speaker 3: other sport as well. Go hey, live golf's on here.
Speaker 3: You can stream it now, hit the button on your
Speaker 3: phone you're watching. So being in that environment I think
Speaker 3: is good for live golf. It doesn't appear like it's
Speaker 3: going away. You mentioned obviously there's there's a plea for
Speaker 3: Donald Trump to try and bring the two groups back together,
Speaker 3: but Live Golf seemed fairly sit on deer Ways. For
Speaker 3: the time being, there's been talking of a New Zealand
Speaker 3: event as well. Maybe not a bad decision for t
Speaker 3: New Zealand. A TV TV in zed to get in
Speaker 3: and go hey, we're in on live golf and and
Speaker 3: we're broadcasting it.
Speaker 2: So they're just getting given it.
Speaker 3: I don't think I'll be paid too much money.
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 3: I don't need any more money, you.
Speaker 2: Can really, Elliott Smith. They're joining us in the chamber
Speaker 2: and Super Rugby it gets underway tonight. Sorry, Super Rugby Pacific.
Speaker 2: We've got to be specific about its name after.
Speaker 3: All, specific about Pacific.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's it, finally back in action again. And I
Speaker 2: know that you're drawling over the start of it because
Speaker 2: you're such a code head. I am as well. I'm
Speaker 2: looking to what Super Rugby Pacific are doing around the
Speaker 2: promotion of the game. You mentioned this in your article
Speaker 2: today and New Zealand Herald another great read from you
Speaker 2: at Elliott Smith. It is just going to get traction
Speaker 2: or is just going to carry on sliding.
Speaker 3: Well, we needed to get traction quite frankly. And look,
Speaker 3: I think the squads this year you remove the rebels
Speaker 3: and splin into some of those players across some of
Speaker 3: the Australian franchises. It lifts them up. I don't think
Speaker 3: there's as weak are teams as there has been previously
Speaker 3: across the competition. You can't pick them out and go yep,
Speaker 3: they won't win too many games. You look at it
Speaker 3: and go, well, why it could be dragged up by
Speaker 3: Ardie Savia and become a playoff team in the blink
Speaker 3: of an I Fiji and Dre have been there that
Speaker 3: are about the last couple of seasons including playing a playoff.
Speaker 3: Then the talent spread across those Australian side. So in
Speaker 3: theory this should be a very very even competition.
Speaker 2: Who the whipping boy is then, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know that there are anyone. I mean we make up
Speaker 3: back in two weeks time ago Jeep as the Crusaders
Speaker 3: are and Straggle Street again. Let's hope not of it,
Speaker 3: but it could happen. I don't think on the paper
Speaker 3: there are too many whipping boys. Maybe the Highlanders because
Speaker 3: they are so young and Jamie Joseph coming in his
Speaker 3: first year. But I think removing the Rebels and just
Speaker 3: some movement of talent around the place has made this
Speaker 3: a much more even competition than it was last year.
Speaker 3: We need it to go from being on paper even
Speaker 3: to being an even competition. We can't predict the results
Speaker 3: and that looks like success for Super Rugby if they
Speaker 3: can get that to happen.
Speaker 2: Talk this before. I love the fact that our two
Speaker 2: All Black pivots are both playing at fullback. I can't
Speaker 2: quite get that one.
Speaker 3: But what it does you know, Harry Plumer, Yes he's
Speaker 3: leaving the Blues. But Josh Jacombs, a player that's been
Speaker 3: talked about as an up and come I went on
Speaker 3: the All Blacks fifteen tour last year, gets a big
Speaker 3: opportunity at Eden Park in a Grand Final rematch to
Speaker 3: show what he can do. Is only played four Super
Speaker 3: Rugby games prior to this point. He's been handed the
Speaker 3: keys of the Chiefs. They've got Damian mckinser there and
Speaker 3: take a bit of the load off. Yeah, it probably
Speaker 3: would like to see both of those players at ten,
Speaker 3: but just opens up an avenue for Josh Jacob and
Speaker 3: that's what Super Rugby has done so well over the
Speaker 3: last twenty so years. You know, whilst the TV came
Speaker 3: in last year and made a name for himself, maybe
Speaker 3: Josh Jacob is the guy to do so in season
Speaker 3: twenty five.
Speaker 2: And in closing Elliott. As far as All Black access
Speaker 2: to the Super Rugby franchises throughout the year, it's not
Speaker 2: free for all. There will be limitations they do. They
Speaker 2: need to be able to basically climb into All Blacks
Speaker 2: whenever they want. Is that important for the competition?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And look I think now as well. You want
Speaker 3: your stars playing and that's something that Jack Mesley has
Speaker 3: been keen on, you know, having those stars aligning and
Speaker 3: playing in those big matches of Super Rugby, not resting
Speaker 3: taking a team out Eleven's not ideal for the competition,
Speaker 3: but it does mean there is a buy every weekend,
Speaker 3: So in theory you should be having your All Black
Speaker 3: stars rested a little bit less often if there is
Speaker 3: a it.
Speaker 2: Is there an edict though from New Zealand Rugby because
Speaker 2: they normally have a limitation.
Speaker 3: Dick pooh say is my understanding. But there are plan
Speaker 3: management protocol and it's not the same for every play.
Speaker 2: And on that we'll let you get on with what
Speaker 2: will be a frantic old weekend of lying in front
Speaker 2: of the TV and staring at the screen.
Speaker 3: Sounds great.
Speaker 2: Elliott Smith. Thanks very much for your time and the change.
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