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Speaker 2: That'd be good afternoon seven after four, Great to have

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Speaker 2: your company this afternoon. Simeon Brown reckons he can fix

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Speaker 1: Brian Bridge, what is it.

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Speaker 2: With this country's obsession with lowering standards and embracing mediocrity

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Speaker 2: principles at poor schools up and down the country? Want

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Speaker 2: the government to cancel new tests for reading, writing and maths.

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Speaker 2: To get NCAA, you have to pass the test. It's

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Speaker 2: been no secret that for too long our national qualification

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Speaker 2: was made. But now there's a problem apparently with this

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Speaker 2: is not good news. So what do the principles of

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Speaker 2: these schools do do They set goals, double down on workloads,

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Speaker 2: This is what's wrong with principles, teachers and unions. The

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Speaker 2: new things and new approaches, which is ironically exactly what

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Speaker 2: This is throwing in the towel at its worst. Our kids,

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Speaker 2: the state of Wellington Water today spells out alleged theft

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Speaker 2: You've offered to resign apparently because of this report. Has

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Speaker 3: I've said I'll certainly listen to our shareholders. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is a damning report and Wellington Water has come

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Speaker 2: And did you need a report to tell you all this,

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Speaker 2: because it's in the Deloitte report the summary it says

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Speaker 3: That's right. And so what happened was when our new

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Speaker 3: They came forward to me. We ran a whistleblower type approach.

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Speaker 3: We don't know that and there would be huge money

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Speaker 2: Well how much have you spent on pipes? You know?

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Speaker 2: Who thing is you're the chair. It's not actually really

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Speaker 2: It sounds like there's been a lot of drinking tea. Nick,

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Speaker 2: past four. We'll talk to Piney next about the warriors

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Speaker 2: Talks that be four seventeen on News Talks. There'd be

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Speaker 2: Please don't tar all teachers with that brush. You'll find

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Speaker 2: at eighteen after four. Hey Piney, Hello, Ryan. So the

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope the losing stays in Vegas. What about

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Speaker 7: But yes, but most I would say they'd have had

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Speaker 2: And now I'm sure there's a couple of hatter.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not in the sporting around and Wellington and Wellington

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Speaker 7: Gods, No, Well, the only goss I've seen is that

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Speaker 7: it was a It was an article written many years

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Speaker 7: based Richie Agars from the UK. It feels to me, though,

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Speaker 2: The'd be four twenty four if you're just joining us.

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Speaker 2: The Oscars are happening over in Hollywood, and Adrian Brody

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Speaker 6: If I may just humbly begin by giving thanks for

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Speaker 2: He'd be are you having pay me to have about you?

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Speaker 2: you see in the news today the Health Star nutrition ratings.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of mind

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Speaker 2: So Australia were going now, Oli Peterson six pur Perth

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Speaker 2: All right, ollie. The federal government now they're still going

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Speaker 11: or two. CGP that way, that seems to make a

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Speaker 11: bit of sense. I think the racgp's got a good

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Speaker 11: idea here. But this is going to be and so

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Speaker 11: it should be an election for overhealth because from my

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Speaker 11: point of view, it's the number one issue that we

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Speaker 11: are fighting with at the moment in this country, apart

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Speaker 11: from GOSTA. Living and our health standards are just not

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Speaker 11: up to scratch in a country that we live in.

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Speaker 11: I know it's similar for you in New Zealand at

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Speaker 11: the moment, Ryan, but you just expect more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, what's happened to the former Australian of the

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Speaker 2: Year who's had been battling cancer.

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Speaker 1: This is really sad.

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Speaker 11: Professor Richard Scollier, who was a joint Australian of the

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Speaker 11: Year in twenty twenty four for his incredible work at

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Speaker 11: the Melanoma Institute of Australia. He has just discovered that

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Speaker 11: his brain cancer is growing back.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 11: He undertook an experimental trial and he was happy to

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Speaker 11: use himself for one of the better term as a

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Speaker 11: guinea pig with some of the work that was being

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Speaker 11: done through the Milanoma Institute to try and stop the

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Speaker 11: growth of his brain cancer. And until late last week

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Speaker 11: he had some success. Now the brain cancer is back.

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Speaker 11: He is undergoing surgery today. He has been very very

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Speaker 11: candid about this and believes that he will probably be

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Speaker 11: dead within three to six months. And that is just

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Speaker 11: a horrible turn of events because I had the great

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Speaker 11: privilege of interviewing him here in Perth last year and

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Speaker 11: he would be one of the most inspiring people that

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Speaker 11: you have ever met, and obviously somebody who has dedicated

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Speaker 11: his entire life to try and find a cure for melanoma.

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Speaker 11: It looks like brain cancer is going to take his

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Speaker 11: life as well, which is just incredibly sad.

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Speaker 2: Very sad, indeed, Oliver, thank you for that. Oliver Peterson

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Speaker 2: six pr PERS Live presenter with us greatly and Bridge

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Speaker 2: Rich Civent to five isn't that interesting? Six hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty million dollars for urgent care clinics over in Australia

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Speaker 2: and today our government here is announcing one hundred clinical

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Speaker 2: placements for overseas trained doctors. So if you're an overseas

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Speaker 2: trained doctor and you can, I mean you can obviously

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Speaker 2: roam freely between Australia and New Zealand, where are you

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Speaker 2: going to go where they're offering six hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: million dollars in funding or where they're offering it doesn't

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Speaker 2: it's probably so little they haven't even put it on

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Speaker 2: the release how much we're spending. But Sammy and Brown

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Speaker 2: will be here after five to talk about this. What

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Speaker 2: I can't understand, and obviously I'm not a doctor, otherwise

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be here, would I of you out saving lives?

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Speaker 2: But what I can't understand is why you have to

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Speaker 2: train for two extra years to become a GP. You

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Speaker 2: know what's up with that? If you've got an overseas

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Speaker 2: trained doctor, can we not speed that process up? Why

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Speaker 2: do they need to then spend another two years once

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Speaker 2: they're here? Presumably I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Learning general things nine two nine two. It is sixteen

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Speaker 2: away from five Barries Oper next.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centric credit, check your customers and get payments, certainty.

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Speaker 2: Somebody who's just textern. About the doctors. We're going to

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Speaker 2: speak to Sam and Brown after five the new health announcement, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: overseas doctors qualifications are not recognized in New Zealand, hence

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Speaker 2: the need to pass an exam for our health qualifications.

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Speaker 2: It's just difference, is Sharon. Sharon, thank you for your text,

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Speaker 2: but I'm still not quite clear why you would need

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Speaker 2: two full years of training for that. Nine two is

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Speaker 2: the numbers text. By the way, Honora, the film, we

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Speaker 2: were talking about the director one Best Director. Now the

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Speaker 2: film has won Best Picture. Here's some reaction. Thank you

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Speaker 2: to the Academy.

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Speaker 12: We made this movie for six million dollars, shooting on

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Speaker 12: location in New York City with about forty crew members.

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Speaker 1: They're all back in New York. This is for you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We met this to be independently.

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Speaker 2: If you're trying to make independent films, please keep doing it.

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Speaker 4: We need more.

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Speaker 2: This is proof. Apparently it's about sex worker in New York.

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Speaker 2: There you go, thirteen away from five, Ryan Bridge Cherry

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Speaker 2: Slope is here. Good afternoon, Barry, Good afternoon, Ran. So

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Speaker 2: we are standing with Ukraine. Whatever that might mean, Well, I.

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Speaker 13: Would jolly well hope I know whether you saw it

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Speaker 13: unfolds in the Oval Office. I've got to say, an

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Speaker 13: office I've been into many times over the years, and

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Speaker 13: I see the little pussey where I normally perch myself

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Speaker 13: and get as close to the president as I possibly could.

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Speaker 13: But I found it extraordinary. I couldn't believe it. I

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Speaker 13: thought Donald Trump was the arch bully, lecturing a man

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Speaker 13: who had lost tens of thousands of his country folk,

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Speaker 13: and this dreadful war started by Russia, and him to

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Speaker 13: take this imperious role that he does, bullying this man

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Speaker 13: and not giving him a fear go, I didn't think.

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Speaker 13: And it should come as no surprise because there was

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Speaker 13: a UN resolution last week and the US voted against

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Speaker 13: the General Assembly resolution that condemned Russia for starting the

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Speaker 13: war against Ukraine. Now the US was in good company.

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Speaker 13: They were on the side of Russia. Belarus and North

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Speaker 13: Korea and even China abstain from the vote, but the

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Speaker 13: US voted, So shouldn't have come as any surprise.

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Speaker 2: But it did.

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Speaker 13: To me, just the nature of it. See, the Europeans

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Speaker 13: have been meeting in London today. They've come up with

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Speaker 13: a plan and let's how it works. Chris Lux And

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Speaker 13: just a few minutes ago he told us he watched

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Speaker 13: the events unfolding the Oval Office on Friday and this

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Speaker 13: is what he had to say.

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Speaker 2: That was a pretty tough watch.

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Speaker 14: You know, it was definitely a tough watch. You know,

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Speaker 14: both parties have said they could have gone you could

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Speaker 14: have handled it or gone better. The bottom line is

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Speaker 14: very simple for us, nothing's changed in our position and

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Speaker 14: support for Ukraine. Ukraine's doing an exceptionally young in presence

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Speaker 14: LEAs he's an exceptionally good job as a wartime leader,

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Speaker 14: as a leader of a small country that was invaded

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Speaker 14: by a bigger country. And we stand with Ukraine.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, well so we should, and just along with all

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Speaker 13: the other European leaders. I mean, it is great worry.

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Speaker 13: I was talking to an older person a Brick about

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Speaker 13: it this morning and she was telling me it reminded

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Speaker 13: her of Christieff, the former Soviet Union leader, banging his

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Speaker 13: shoe on a table at the UN when he wasn't

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Speaker 13: getting his way. But I went back over that and

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Speaker 13: it was in nineteen sixty at the height of the

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Speaker 13: Cold War. Nobody has actually ever been able to produce

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Speaker 13: the film of him banging the shoe.

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Speaker 15: But he was certainly furious because.

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Speaker 2: That there was a report that Biden actually did this

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Speaker 2: what happened in the White House, Biden had done with

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Speaker 2: Zelensky privately on a phone call. It was an NBC

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Speaker 2: report about that a few years.

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Speaker 13: It hasn't that the place to do it?

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, but this is Trump. I mean, are were

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Speaker 2: shocked he's a shaman? I mean, is anyone shocked that?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 13: I was furious anyway, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, fair enough to no fure. I can see why Barry,

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Speaker 2: more overseas doctor is going to be allowed to practice here.

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Speaker 13: Yes, it's interesting, isn't it? Because I've never understood quite

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Speaker 13: why somebody who has trained overseas and pretty good medical facilities,

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Speaker 13: we seem to think that the human condition is different

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Speaker 13: if you come from Britain or Canada or the United States,

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Speaker 13: where these doctors have basically trained. When they come to

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Speaker 13: New Zealand, they've got to undergo a further two years training.

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Speaker 2: Our bodies and bodies of body, isn't now you know.

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Speaker 13: There was a point that I've got to say that

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Speaker 13: the new Health Minister Sami and Brown made. The point

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Speaker 13: he made was and it's familiar to many of us

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Speaker 13: about overqualified people doing menial jobs that they would trained

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Speaker 13: much for much higher positions overseas.

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Speaker 12: Currently some of these people are you know, we hear

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Speaker 12: the stories driving ubers when they should be actually practicing medicine,

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Speaker 12: which is what they've been trained to do, but they've

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Speaker 12: done it trained in a different country. So this announcement

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Speaker 12: today is about more doctors and nurses in GP practices.

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Speaker 12: Plus it's about providing another option that New Zealanders will

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Speaker 12: have to be able to access those important services and

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Speaker 12: the way that works for them.

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Speaker 13: Yes, so the innovation is quite good. Some of the

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Speaker 13: plans we have got time to go into all of them.

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Speaker 13: But it is true that now doctors they used to

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Speaker 13: have to train in hospitals when they come here to

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Speaker 13: get the New Zealand qualification, now they can train in

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Speaker 13: GB clinics. The only problem is, of course, so if

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Speaker 13: you're a member of the public and you go along,

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Speaker 13: you just hope their creds have been checked out closely enough,

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Speaker 13: because that's the other issue.

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Speaker 2: That's got to be sorted do right, Speaking of checking

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Speaker 2: your creds out, the Malori parties having some problems with

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Speaker 2: the auditing of their accounts. This is for twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: They would do last July. They finally had something in December.

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Speaker 2: But that's right, no signatures, no order to so very

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Speaker 2: quickly bury. What's happening now.

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Speaker 13: Well, the police have issued them with a formal warning,

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Speaker 13: which is a pretty serious thing. And don't forget the

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Speaker 13: police are investigating the Maori Party for what went on

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Speaker 13: in the muddy here in Auckland. But to Marty, the

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Speaker 13: Maori Party's president John Tamahery, he said all will be

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Speaker 13: revealed in good time. Rest sure that this is quoting him.

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Speaker 13: The naughty Natives always comply with a letter of the law.

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Speaker 13: I mean, please, don't be so frivolous.

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Speaker 2: This is pretty important, certainly is and as you said,

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Speaker 2: it was due last year, yeah, seven away from five year.

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Speaker 2: On news talk said b I'll tell you what I

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Speaker 2: think about Donald Trump, and people say I appears to

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Speaker 2: be siding with Russia. In listening to that press conference yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I've just isolated a piece of audio for you which

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Speaker 2: will play when we come back, which I think explains

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Speaker 2: exactly his position about why he's doing that or appears

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Speaker 2: to be doing that.

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Speaker 1: That's next putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The

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Speaker 1: mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 16: So where does the wall go after the White House

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Speaker 16: melt down? From the CENTIFOL Strategic and International Studies. Senior

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Speaker 16: advisor Mark cansions, Well, this.

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Speaker 4: Is a very uncomfortable exchange. Zolenski was trying to explain himself.

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Speaker 4: He was cut off. These kinds of exchanges I think

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Speaker 4: are not uncommon in diplomacy, but that it's done behind

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Speaker 4: closed doors, not in front of the press.

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Speaker 2: Do you see your way to get America back at

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Speaker 2: the table or not?

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Speaker 4: That's very hard to say. The administration has been very

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Speaker 4: skeptical about each Ukraine. They've become increasingly hostile to Ukraine.

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Speaker 16: Back tomorrow at six am, the mic hosking breakfast with

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Speaker 16: the rain driver of the lam used talk.

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Speaker 2: Zb as somebody has it's just gone four minutes away

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Speaker 2: from five o'clock here on news talks, it'd be somebody

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Speaker 2: who's text in to say, why are you moaning about

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Speaker 2: the length of the oscars because it's been going since

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Speaker 2: one o'clock this afternoon our time. It's still going now

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Speaker 2: it's five o'clock. Why are you moaning about that? If

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Speaker 2: you spent thousands on your outfit, would you not want

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Speaker 2: to have it shown off for as long as possible? Honestly? No,

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Speaker 2: And besides, they're not spending their own money on those outfits,

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Speaker 2: aren't they. They've been gifted by designers. Anyway, we'll cross

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Speaker 2: love to Hollywood for the latest at five point fifteen,

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Speaker 2: and we're in Europe. Next reaction to Trump vis a Lensky.

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Speaker 4: Person where.

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Speaker 2: Person Mason.

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Speaker 1: Questions, answers, facts, analysis, the drive show you trust for

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Speaker 1: the full picture? Brian Bridge on Heather Duplicy allan drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be good. Evening. It is seven after five. The

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Speaker 2: government's making moves in the primary care sector since afternoon.

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Speaker 2: They've announced an additional two hundred and eighty five million

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Speaker 2: dollars in performance based funding for GPS. More on that

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Speaker 2: in the second they'll be funding for one hundred training

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Speaker 2: placements for overseas trained doctors to try and get them

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Speaker 2: into GP practices here. And on top of all of that,

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Speaker 2: GP practices will be paid an incentive to attract four

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Speaker 2: hundred graduate registered nurses a year. Simon Browns the Health Minister,

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Speaker 2: Minister good Evening, Good Evening, the Twildred and eighty five

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Speaker 2: million dollars the performance based pay. What's the criteria.

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Speaker 12: Well, that's about making sure that our GP practices are

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Speaker 12: offering timing or the books open. So it's about being

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Speaker 12: able to register new patients, seeing patients within a timely manner,

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Speaker 12: and also being able to support the government's targets around

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Speaker 12: immunization and planned care as well. So those are the

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Speaker 12: things that will be incentivizing gps to support their patients with.

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Speaker 12: And this is about increasing the amount of funding they

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Speaker 12: get so they're able to hire more staff and be

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Speaker 12: able to support their practices to be able to do

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Speaker 12: that for their patients.

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Speaker 2: But how do you get your practice moving faster until

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Speaker 2: you can hire more staff.

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Speaker 12: Well, ultimately, this is about incentivizing what we want for

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Speaker 12: New Zealanders, which is saying we want to have patients

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Speaker 12: being able to be able to be registered with a GP.

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Speaker 12: We want people to be able to be seen. I

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Speaker 12: mean we hear the stories we're waiting two to three

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Speaker 12: weeks or more for an appointment, So it's ultimately and

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Speaker 12: that's why we've also announced today the additional investment and

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Speaker 12: workforce around doctors and nurses. So today's is about both

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Speaker 12: doctors and nurses.

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Speaker 2: I guess I'll be listening to this, They'll be listening

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Speaker 2: to this, Minister and they'll be going, hang on a minute.

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Speaker 2: I'm working my butt off here. I've got all the

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Speaker 2: staff that I can afford to have and we're all

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Speaker 2: working around the clock and we you know, how are

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Speaker 2: you expecting them to do.

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Speaker 12: This well effectively? They will be paid more money, That's

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Speaker 12: what will be going through. This is increased capitation funding

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Speaker 12: these more money no GP clinics to be able to

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Speaker 12: support the government's targets around access to GP clinics.

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Speaker 2: That's what this is all about, all right.

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Speaker 12: Health New Zealand will work through some of the finer

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Speaker 12: details with GPS, so they'll be involved in that process

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Speaker 12: and finding will become available from the first of July

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Speaker 12: this year.

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Speaker 2: With the overseas trained doctors, I found it incredible that

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Speaker 2: you have to do two years? Is that for every doctor?

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Speaker 2: So if someone gets trained in Britain, do they have

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Speaker 2: to come here.

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Speaker 12: And do doctors which are trained in a different, different jurisdiction.

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Speaker 12: They come to New Zealand and they are you know,

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Speaker 12: many of these people are doing jobs which are not

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Speaker 12: related to their qualifications. You hear stories some of them

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Speaker 12: driving driving ubers. Actually we want them in GP practices

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Speaker 12: and what they do is they find it very hard

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Speaker 12: to get the training placement to be able to get there,

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Speaker 12: to get their qualification recognized in New Zealand. And so

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Speaker 12: this is making sure that not only can they do

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Speaker 12: the exam, but they can actually then do that that

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Speaker 12: training and that supervision and a GP practice rather than

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Speaker 12: a hospital, so they're able to actually boost that GP

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Speaker 12: workforce so that New Zealanders are able to get more

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Speaker 12: access to time and quality access to healthcare.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and that's for countries, not you're not talking about

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Speaker 2: the US and the UK and Germany.

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Speaker 12: There's a variety of rules and there is work that

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Speaker 12: we need to do to look at those rules as well.

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Speaker 12: And that's where the medical councils set a whole range

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Speaker 12: of different criteria and.

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Speaker 2: There is there's worse sense to you, like a lot

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Speaker 2: of it does not make sense to me.

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Speaker 12: I'm focused on the patient, not on regulations and rules,

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Speaker 12: and so there is there is advice coming to me

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Speaker 12: around how we can look at at some of those

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Speaker 12: issues as well, because we actually want to make it

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Speaker 12: easier for people to come to you.

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Speaker 2: He's on into practice medicine totally.

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Speaker 12: And to be able to support patients. So I'm really

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Speaker 12: focused on that. There's more work to do. This is

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Speaker 12: about looking these are the current rules as they stand

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Speaker 12: right now, and it's about saying, actually, we want these

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Speaker 12: doctors in gb clinics quickly supporting patients.

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Speaker 2: All right, so I mean and Brown appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: The Health Minister eleven after five ran Bridge. Europe is

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Speaker 2: forming a coalition of the willing to try and guarantee

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Speaker 2: peace in Ukraine. They've had an emergency leader's summit last night,

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Speaker 2: this after the Zelenski Trump vance scrap at the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Starma is promising billions more for Ukraine and he wants

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Speaker 2: his buddies in Europe to follow suit.

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Speaker 7: Every nation must contribute to that in the best way

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Speaker 7: that it can, bringing different capabilities and support to the table,

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Speaker 7: but all taking responsibility to act.

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Speaker 2: Edward Lucas's senior fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis. Edwards, Hello, Well,

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Speaker 2: Hello Ryan nice to hear you, nice to.

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Speaker 1: Be with you.

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Speaker 2: So it looks like Europe's got America's message loud and clear.

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Speaker 17: Finally, yes, I'm not quite sure what the message is.

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Speaker 17: Do we think that Trump is sad mad or or

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Speaker 17: maybe we should be glad that he's finally kicked the

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Speaker 17: Europeans into action. But certainly things are moving faster than

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Speaker 17: they have done before and in the right direction. Whether

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Speaker 17: it's quite enough it is another matter.

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Speaker 2: What more is needed.

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Speaker 17: We need to start off by really giving Ukraine the

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Speaker 17: weapons it needs to defend itself and to deter further

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Speaker 17: Russian attacks. That would mean that any cease far the

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Speaker 17: talks start from a position where Ukraine's gone a military edge.

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Speaker 17: It looks as though there's going to be an initial truce,

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Speaker 17: just a partial truce to see if they can manage

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Speaker 17: to stop the Russians hitting energy of the structure and

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Speaker 17: things like that, and if that succeeds, it'll go on

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Speaker 17: to a cease far. This is obviously to be presented

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Speaker 17: to Trump because the American plan is I think much

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Speaker 17: less attractive to the Ukrainians. If the European plan works,

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Speaker 17: we can go to the Americans and say, hey, our

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Speaker 17: plan's working, why you support it? And there's not much

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Speaker 17: chance I think of us supporting Trump's plan, which is

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Speaker 17: basically a surrender to poot him. And then the hard

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Speaker 17: stuff starts, which is how do we actually protect Ukraine

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Speaker 17: postsease far? And that's going to be really tricky for

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Speaker 17: the Europeans.

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Speaker 2: So you've got Starma talking about boots on the ground

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Speaker 2: and birds in the sky. But Posen has said very

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Speaker 2: clearly through Levrov, I don't want any troops on the border,

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Speaker 2: peacekeepers whatever, I don't want them. How's this going to work.

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 17: Indeed? And this will be a big test for the Europeans.

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Speaker 17: Are we willing to deploy our forces in harm's way

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Speaker 17: in Ukraine to protect Ukraine post cease far against the

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Speaker 17: wishes of the Russians? And what happens if the Russians

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Speaker 17: then attack our troops, you know the drone hits of

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Speaker 17: British or French or German barracks and kills a few people?

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Speaker 17: What do we do send across press release or do

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Speaker 17: we far back and hit something inside Russia.

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Speaker 2: Who's actually in the so called coalition of the Willing

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Speaker 2: that everyone's talking about, who's likely to be in it?

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Speaker 17: All the big players, but it's clearly the Brits and

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Speaker 17: the French. The problem for the others is that the

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Speaker 17: countries that are most threat aware Finns, Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians, Poles, Swedes, Norwegians,

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Speaker 17: Danes are pretty tied up defending themselves. There's not a

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Speaker 17: huge number of spare troops there, and the Estonians are

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Speaker 17: worried that the small number of British troops or in

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Speaker 17: Estonia might be taken out in order to go to Ukraine.

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Speaker 17: The countries with really big militaries are the Turks for example.

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Speaker 17: They could help and there maybe something there, but in

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Speaker 17: the end to defend Ukraine properly you need roughly two

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Speaker 17: hundred thousand troops there, two hundred thousand getting ready to go,

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Speaker 17: two hundred thousand recovering from having been there. That would

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Speaker 17: be the sort of rolling deployment to give them a

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Speaker 17: South Korean or West German style defense. Going back to

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Speaker 17: the days of the Cold War defended West Germany against

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Speaker 17: Warsaw Pact, and Europe just doesn't have that. So even

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Speaker 17: with the Americans, we don't have that. So peace is

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Speaker 17: a huge weight onto tarifs. The belief in Russia that

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Speaker 17: we will far back if we're hit, and that's going

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Speaker 17: to be a test of political will as well as

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Speaker 17: of military muscle.

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Speaker 2: All right, but thank you very much for that, Edward Lucas,

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Speaker 2: Senior Fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis. Time

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Speaker 2: has quarter past, Fivene. The European plan will fail. Trump's

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Speaker 2: deal was the best option out there. Trump didn't have

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Speaker 2: a deal. Let's be clear. He had a mineral deal

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Speaker 2: with Ukraine, but he does not have even the draft

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Speaker 2: of a peace deal between Russia Ukraine. He's got the

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Speaker 2: best chance at this point of broker in one, you'd

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Speaker 2: have to say, but he certainly doesn't have one in

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Speaker 2: his hands yet. This from a doctor. We were just

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Speaker 2: talking to the Health minister about why overseas trained doctors

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Speaker 2: have to spend two years training here. Again, Ryan, I'm

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Speaker 2: a doctor. Not all medical schools around the world have

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Speaker 2: created equal and doctors know full well that we need

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Speaker 2: to check if our qualifications are accepted where we want

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Speaker 2: to travel too, and if not, we need to do

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Speaker 2: some more training. I totally get that if you're coming

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Speaker 2: from a third world country where your medical school might

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Speaker 2: not be as good, I can understand it. But if

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Speaker 2: you're coming from England and you've studied medicine in England

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Speaker 2: and you come to New Zealand, why would you not

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Speaker 2: be able to just walk on the door. Are their

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Speaker 2: bodies that different to ours that you need to retrain?

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Speaker 2: Sixteen after five News Talk z B just gone five

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Speaker 2: to eighteen year on News Talk zaid B. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to Donald Trump and what he said at the White

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Speaker 2: House little later on. Right now, the oscars are over.

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Speaker 2: They've finally wrapped up, and Honora was the big winner,

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Speaker 2: Best Director, Best Actress, Best Picture. He Producer, Samantha Quain,

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Speaker 2: we made this very little money, but all of our

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Speaker 2: hearts to all.

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Speaker 5: Of the dreamers and the young filmmakers out there.

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Speaker 18: Tell the stories you want to tell, Tell the stories.

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Speaker 2: That move you.

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Speaker 9: I promise you you will never regret it.

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Speaker 2: Adrian Brody took out Best Actor for his role in

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Speaker 2: The Brutalist. Sean Mandel is alloway our Ala entertainment reporter, Sean,

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Speaker 2: good evening, Good evening, how are you good? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: I take it you've watched the whole thing. Was this

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Speaker 2: as expected?

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Speaker 19: It was as I was expecting it in the last

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Speaker 19: couple of days. I will say, but definitely, I think

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Speaker 19: the big winners. As you mentioned, Anora, the big winner

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Speaker 19: of the evening comes out as a little bit of

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Speaker 19: an upset beating the Brutalist, which had up until these

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Speaker 19: sort of final days been perceived as the front runner

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Speaker 19: in Best Picture. And also Demi Moore losing out in

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Speaker 19: Best Actress category to Mikey Madison from Anora, that was

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Speaker 19: something that was There were beginning to be signs that

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Speaker 19: that was the way the race was going to go,

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Speaker 19: but Demi was still very much the front runner by

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Speaker 19: all conventional logic going into this evening. And another big

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Speaker 19: shocking moment is that director, writer, director editor of Anora

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Speaker 19: Sean Baker, who is a longtime independent filmmaker. This film

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Speaker 19: is a true independent film made for six million dollars,

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Speaker 19: which sounds like a lot of money, but to make

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Speaker 19: a movie, it is not a lot of money at all.

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Speaker 19: And he came home with four oscars in one night,

871
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Speaker 19: the record for the most number of oscars taken home

872
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Speaker 19: by one person in one evening.

873
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Speaker 4: Ever.

874
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Speaker 2: Wow, who was who looked the best? That's most important

875
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: thing about the Oscar, isn't it?

876
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Speaker 19: That is really the most important thing I have to

877
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 19: say I think Demi Moore look absolutely stunning. God looked

878
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 19: just gorgeous, modern but still classic Hollywood. I thought Ariana

879
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 19: Grande gave a very, you know, pitch perfect I look

880
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 19: for Glinda in Wicked, but also still very red carpet

881
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 19: appropriate without it being too cost to me, so I

882
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 19: thought she looked great. Coleman to Mingo among the gentlemen,

883
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 19: always knows how to make a splash on the red carpet.

884
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Speaker 19: Definitely a little bit more out there, if you will.

885
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 19: But in terms of it's that he wore a red

886
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Speaker 19: tuxedo ensemble, but the tailoring, the look is always exquisite,

887
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Speaker 19: so I always got to shout it out to him.

888
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Speaker 2: Brilliant. Sean, thank you for that. Sean Mandela La entertainment

889
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: reporter on the Oscars results and Noorra is the film

890
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 2: about a sex worker in New York for the Paraldy.

891
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: You've got to see because it's one of the most

892
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: number of Oscars today, including the big one Best Picture.

893
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,479
Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes after five terms of trade numbers out today,

894
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: give you those. That's for December. I'll give you those

895
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: after the news at five point thirty, and next I'll

896
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: tell you about I mean, we talk a lot about

897
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: Ukraine in this country, but the biggest geopolitical threat, if

898
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: that's the word you want to use, is actually far

899
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Speaker 2: closer to home.

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00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: Getting the facts, discarding the fluff. It's Ryan bridge on.

901
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: Hither do the c Allen drive with one New Zealand

902
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be five twenty four. Here's a question for you,

904
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: what exactly does our independent foreign policy stance really mean? Really?

905
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: Politicians of all colors love throwing it around as a

906
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Speaker 2: badge of honor and our post nuclear free utopia down under.

907
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: It makes us feel good like we're morally superior for

908
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: our anti nuclear stance. Plus, in theory, it also helps

909
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: to appease China by making us look a shade less

910
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: apron strings to Washington right now. At the weekend, Helen

911
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: Clark came out suggesting that we quit the five Eyes network.

912
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 2: She also asked why we'd bother up in our defense spending.

913
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: There's a lot to unpack here. No doubt these moves

914
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: would boost out so called independent foreign policy credentials, but

915
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: you've got to ask yourself what are we actually hoping

916
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: to achieve here? The big worry in our part of

917
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: the world, of course, is Taiwan, not if, but when

918
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: the Chinese try to take it back, our economy, our

919
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: trade get absolutely smashed hammered. And if we think a

920
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Speaker 2: bumper sticker telling the world that we have an independent

921
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: foreign policy is going to help us, well, we'd be wrong.

922
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: There's a guy who lives in Wellington named Ford Hart.

923
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: He's an American diplomat thirty three years experience. He's been

924
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Speaker 2: consul general to Hong Kong and Macaw, director of the

925
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Speaker 2: National Security Council in China. Big dog knows his stuff right,

926
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Speaker 2: He reckons the only way that China would see us

927
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Speaker 2: as some sort of Switzerland of the Pacific would be

928
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: to ditch and us all together. Cut our defense packed

929
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Speaker 2: with the Assies because they're tied to the Yanks, and

930
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: then we're basically all tied to one another anyway. We'd

931
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: also need to ditch Five Eyes, as Helen suggested, cut

932
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Speaker 2: maritime patrols with Washington and Canberra. The list goes on. Basically,

933
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: we would need to unfriend the West and then we

934
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Speaker 2: could rarely call ourselves and dependent. Are we really ready

935
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Speaker 2: to do these things? To ditch our ossie cousins, to

936
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Speaker 2: let China, swallow Taiwan in our own backyard. The reality

937
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: is at some point we're going to need to aside

938
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Speaker 2: and stop pretending that we're everybody's friend and nobody's enemy,

939
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Speaker 2: and that day might just be closer than we think.

940
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Speaker 2: Brian Bridge time is twenty seven minutes after five, Y're

941
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Speaker 2: on News Talks MB. Very quickly. We're running through our

942
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: terms of trade because this is good news for your

943
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: Monday afternoon. So it's up. This is for the December quarter,

944
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: up three point one percent, which is great. Why basically

945
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 2: our export prices have been good. This is dairy, beef

946
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 2: and lamb. Terms of trade is basically the value of

947
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: your export prices versus your import prices. So ours are

948
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 2: going up, the imports aren't so much. So that means

949
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Speaker 2: that we've got a positive balance to trade. Terms of trade,

950
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Speaker 2: I should say for the December quarter, which is great.

951
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Speaker 2: Twenty seven after five News Talks MB. What happened with

952
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: the warriors in Vegas? We look at that afternoons again, even.

953
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 20: After all the sun.

954
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Speaker 1: Putting the challenging questions to the people. At the heart

955
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Speaker 1: of the story, it's Ryan Bridge on hither dup see

956
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: Ellen drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected. News

957
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Speaker 1: Talk sa'd be.

958
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Speaker 2: Good evening. You're on news Talk, said, be twenty five

959
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: minutes away from six. Great to have your company loads

960
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: of feedback on our so called independent foreign policy and

961
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: what exactly it means. We'll talk to a huddle about

962
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: that as well. In just a second, clear the Lore

963
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Speaker 2: journalist and Jose bucganny Child funds that you are joining

964
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Speaker 2: us in just a few moments, very quickly. Some numbers

965
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Speaker 2: came out today on pets. If you didn't know, sixty

966
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: three percent of homes in New Zealand have pets in them,

967
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: forty percent cats, thirty one percent dogs, and the rest

968
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Speaker 2: are like horses and rabbits and stuff. It's interesting for

969
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Speaker 2: those people who don't have a pet in their house,

970
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Speaker 2: sixty percent of them want one, which means I'm assuming

971
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Speaker 2: that it's you know, you can't afford one, or you

972
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Speaker 2: haven't got the room for one, or you're getting on

973
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: maybe and you don't want to have you can't walk them,

974
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Speaker 2: all those sorts of issues. But it's interesting, isn't it.

975
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Speaker 2: We have one point two million cats, eight hundred thousand dogs.

976
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: I have a beagle in my house and Honestly, she

977
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: brings the house to life. And that sounds really pathetic,

978
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Speaker 2: but it's true. She absolutely brings the house to life,

979
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Speaker 2: and she's a constant enjoyment. I've never had a dog.

980
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: I had a dog for a short time, is it

981
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Speaker 2: when I was a kid as a family, but I

982
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Speaker 2: just wouldn't go without one. I really wouldn't. Twenty three

983
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: away from six, Ryan Bridge, the Las Vegas trip couldn't

984
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: have gone worse for the Warriors. They got thumped. We

985
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: know this thirty eight by the Raiders, but an assistant

986
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: coach is now facing serious allegations. Richard Ago alleged to

987
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 2: have grabbed a journalist by the throat during the game.

988
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: The NRL is investigating. The Warrior's boss has spoken with

989
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: the leagu's integrity units. All a bit of a mess.

990
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: Wayne Goldsmith, the international sport coaching expert who's with us

991
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Speaker 2: Wayne good evening, Good Evening.

992
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 8: Ryan, And without wanting to make it flippancy about that

993
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 8: current situation, I'm very lucky. I live in the bush

994
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 8: in Australia, not that far from Lismore where the rains

995
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 8: about the hit, and we've got some pets that might

996
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 8: be of interest.

997
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: The other day down at my home office, I was

998
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 2: about the end of the door.

999
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 8: And we had the koala on the ground and he

1000
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 8: walked past. I won't tell you that he said a

1001
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 8: low but he walked past, and he just dashed up

1002
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 8: the tree right behind my office. So I'm one of

1003
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 8: those sixty percent of people that believe pets are wonderful

1004
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 8: all the time, and.

1005
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: Yours you don't have to feed and pay for the food,

1006
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: so that's great. Hey, this is quite a serious situation

1007
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: what's happened in Las Vegas if it's alleged at this point,

1008
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: obviously we don't know exactly what happened, but it's not

1009
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: a great look. What do you do about something like that?

1010
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 8: Well, it's funny, having worked with a lot of pro

1011
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 8: football teams, generally, what you've got a structure within the

1012
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 8: team is what we call a christ management group or

1013
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 8: a management team.

1014
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 21: You've always got a group of people that.

1015
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 8: When something happens, to make sure that first of all,

1016
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 8: the matter is researched, investigated properly, correctly, legally, and that

1017
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 8: of course there's as much support for the mental health

1018
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 8: and as much support as possible to the staff member.

1019
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 8: So I'm sure they're a very professional organization and I'm

1020
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 8: sure that they're doing all those things really well. And

1021
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 8: the important thing Ryan is that to make sure the

1022
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 8: thing is played out correctly, properly in time. It's so

1023
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 8: easy to hang people in the court of public opinion,

1024
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 8: but it's got to be done fairly, ethically and of

1025
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 8: course legally, and give every possible support to the coaching.

1026
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: Question and the players as well. That's the other side

1027
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: of this, I guess the players are normally you look

1028
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: to your coaches for a bit of guidance on how

1029
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: to behave it's it's they's obviously going to be something

1030
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: that you have to address.

1031
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: You do and the player will be aware.

1032
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 8: Some of them may be aware of what actually happened.

1033
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: Some will be hearing.

1034
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 8: Second, third, fourth, an, some of them will be getting

1035
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 8: social media posts or text from home and they'll be

1036
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 8: completely unaware of what happened because they were focused on

1037
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 8: playing or recovering or warming up a warming down, depending

1038
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 8: on where and where it's alleged to have happened. So,

1039
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 8: of course, in any of these crisis situations, we make

1040
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 8: sure that the players are given every possible support system

1041
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 8: around mental health and wellbeing and supporting them as a term.

1042
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 13: I've got no doubt those things are happening.

1043
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 2: Wayne, Thanks for your time. Wayne Goldsmith, international sports coaching

1044
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: expert on the Warriors disastrous adventure over in Las Vegas.

1045
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 2: Twenty away from six The Huddle.

1046
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: With New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Find You're one.

1047
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: Of a kind joining the Huddle tonight. Clear to Lord journalists,

1048
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: good even clear. Good to see you and Jose Beganni's

1049
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: here child fun Ceo, Hi, Jose, Hello, Hello, Great to

1050
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 2: have you both here. Now let's start with what's happening

1051
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: with Ukraine in a funny kind of a way. Clear.

1052
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying I love Trump.

1053
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 9: But you better not.

1054
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: He's come out. He's come out, he's come out, and

1055
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: he's shaken the tree. And he's actually got Europe to

1056
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: do really what the Americans have wanted Europe to do

1057
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: for the last forty years, which is up their defense

1058
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: spending and look after their own backyard.

1059
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 9: I think that's but like beating somebody up so that

1060
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 9: they go on a self defense course, I can't say

1061
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 9: I think that's a really good way of going around it.

1062
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: Well it worked, I mean, look at them, Yeah, yeah, but.

1063
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 9: The bodie boys in the White House, you know, who

1064
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 9: are basically mobsters now, in my view, they are going

1065
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 9: to read what they so eventually, because you know, Putin

1066
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 9: has really played them. He will continue to play them

1067
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 9: when there is eventually a resolution, which there has to be.

1068
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 9: You cannot keep on fighting a war like this forever

1069
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 9: because it is literally killing so many people on both sides,

1070
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 9: young people. It's an art of tragedy. But you know,

1071
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 9: Putin will still be there in Russia. He will probably

1072
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 9: And we've got to remember this is week five or

1073
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 9: six of Trump's second term.

1074
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: There are many more, but already we're talking about a

1075
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 2: potential seas fire and we've had three years without those

1076
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: words really entering the lexicon. Josie, Well, Ryan.

1077
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 22: What we're really talking about here, This deal that Trump

1078
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 22: is putting forward is a deal for surrender, not peace.

1079
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 9: You've got to be really clear about that.

1080
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 22: I mean, you know, it does involve Ukraine getting nothing

1081
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 22: and giving up everything. I'm just staring at the cover

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Speaker 22: of Private Eye actually this week, which has Trump asking

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Speaker 22: Zolensky a question, what guess what the deal is? And

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Speaker 22: Zelensky replying, I give in, and Trump says correct. It

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Speaker 22: is a surrender, Ryan, it is a surrender. And I

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Speaker 22: think that what you what you're seeing here is a

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Speaker 22: kind of replay of what Churchill went through in nineteen forty,

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Speaker 22: where all the pressure came on to surrender to appease Germany.

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Speaker 22: And you know you now understand the kind of pressure

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Speaker 22: that he was under. But also run you. I just

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Speaker 22: heard you talking about independent foreign policy.

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Speaker 4: For me.

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Speaker 22: Independent foreign policy for New Zealand is not about picking

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Speaker 22: one side or the other. It's actually about hedging, hedging

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Speaker 22: so that we don't go right. We're all in with America,

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Speaker 22: and frankly, I don't think we want to be all

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Speaker 22: in with America.

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Speaker 20: I don't want to.

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Speaker 22: I agree with you or Panama. But you've got a

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Speaker 22: hedge between tiny.

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Speaker 2: But my point is you will hedge all day long

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Speaker 2: until it comes to a head and you'll have to

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Speaker 2: pick a side at some point.

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Speaker 22: But you're not you're picking, Yes, absolutely, you're picking aside

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Speaker 22: in terms of our values and our principles. And I

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Speaker 22: think the key thing with Ukraine is we have to

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Speaker 22: be a tight, really tight team here of countries that

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Speaker 22: are democratic, that believe in freedom of individuals, freedom before

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Speaker 22: the law, So we do have to make a decision

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Speaker 22: to be out of the coalition of willing. That's absolutely true.

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Speaker 22: That doesn't mean we walk away from China, you know,

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Speaker 22: that's that's a very different question.

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Speaker 9: And Ryan, You've got to remember when you talk about

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Speaker 9: what Ukraine will settle for, they gave away in nineteen

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Speaker 9: ninety five. They gave away their nuclear arsenal in exchange

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Speaker 9: for specific protections from the United States the UK and

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00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 9: it has where has that got them? And Russia was

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Speaker 9: actually one of those one of those who agreed not

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Speaker 9: to have aggression. I think one of the many casualties

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Speaker 9: of this will be any sort of nuclear disarmament talks

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Speaker 9: in the future. Yaho's ever going to give them away now?

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Speaker 2: Totally? Why would you? And no one, well, no one

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Speaker 2: can be trusted on their word, can they? And a

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Speaker 2: word doesn't last forever.

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Speaker 9: No, especially Trump, I would not trust a single thing

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Speaker 9: he says.

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Speaker 22: You've got I think we've Yeah, We've got to wake

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Speaker 22: up and smell the coffee here. I mean, Trump's USA

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Speaker 22: has now swapped sides. There's no doubt that Putin is

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Speaker 22: the person he's supporting the lead.

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Speaker 2: I have a hard time agreeing with that, and I

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Speaker 2: have a piece of audio when we come back. I've

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Speaker 2: got a piece of water. I'm going to play you

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Speaker 2: persuade us, and I'll persuade.

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Speaker 22: Your audio, and we'll see where we stand.

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Speaker 2: Clear the Law and jos Bucani about to get schooled.

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the ones

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Speaker 1: with Local and Global Reach News Talks.

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Speaker 2: The bead is sirteen minutes away from six and Clear

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Speaker 2: the Lord. Journalist Josie beginning child fun CEO with me tonight. Now,

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Speaker 2: I promised you before the break, I'll play a little

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Speaker 2: bit of audio. This is from Donald Trump at his

1143
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: press confidence at the weekend with Zolenski. And this is

1144
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 2: because everybody keeps saying, oh, he's gone with the Russians,

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Speaker 2: He's siding with Putin. He was actually asked about this

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Speaker 2: at the press and here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 2: How explain it?

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Speaker 18: Well, if I didn't align myself with both of them,

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Speaker 18: you never have a deal. He wants me to say

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Speaker 18: terrible things about Putin and then say, Hi, Vladimir, how

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Speaker 18: are we doing on the deal. That doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 18: I'm not aligned with Putin. I'm not aligned with anybody.

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Speaker 18: I'm aligned with the United States of America and for

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Speaker 18: the good of the world. I'm aligned with the world,

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Speaker 18: and I want to get this thing over with. You

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00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 18: see the hatred he's got for Putin. That's very tough

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Speaker 18: for me to make a deal with that kind of hate.

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00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 18: He's got tremendous hatred and I understand that. But I

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00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 18: can tell you the other side is exactly in love

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Speaker 18: with you know him Ei there, So it's not a

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Speaker 18: question of alignment.

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Speaker 10: I have to I'm.

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Speaker 18: Aligned with the world. I want to get the thing set.

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Speaker 18: I'm aligned with Europe. I want to see if we

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Speaker 18: can get this thing done.

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Speaker 1: You want me to be tough.

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Speaker 18: I could be tougher than any human being you've ever seen.

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Speaker 18: I'd be so tough, But you're never going to get

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Speaker 18: a deal that way. So that's the way it goes.

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Speaker 2: Joycey does that I'm the toughest man you But yeah,

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Speaker 2: the point is he's sighing. Basically, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm trying to curry favor with both of

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Speaker 2: them because I'm going to have to sit down and

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Speaker 2: actually do a deal with them.

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Speaker 9: Why would you call well, but what is actually what

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Speaker 9: he's actually saying.

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Speaker 22: Though, if you substitute, and I know, using the word Hitler,

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Speaker 22: you've lost the argument already. But if you substitute the

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Speaker 22: word Putin for Hitler or Russia for Germany's Second World War,

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Speaker 22: imagine that conversation in nineteen forty, so that what he's

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Speaker 22: asking here is for complete capitulation from a country that

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Speaker 22: was invaded. Now, if you think that Russia is going

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Speaker 22: to stop at the border of Ukraine or stop at

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Speaker 22: the border of the territory they've already got, you're dreaming.

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Speaker 22: Every single time that Putin has signed a deal, he's

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Speaker 22: broken it. So the key thing here is that who

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Speaker 22: trusts Putin in this so called deal that Trump thinks

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Speaker 22: he's the toughest guy around that he can organize, it

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Speaker 22: is simply surrendered.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on to pets.

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Speaker 9: No, this is so much, This is much matter.

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Speaker 2: In one word, did I convince you, cleiar?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 2: You did not. I do think so.

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Speaker 9: You convinced me that you're younger and optimistic, and I

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Speaker 9: love that about you.

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Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with being young, there is nothing wrong without it.

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Speaker 9: I will wish I was Are you.

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Speaker 22: A dog man or a cat man?

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Speaker 21: Right?

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely a dog man. I was just saying earlier,

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Speaker 2: I've got a wee beagle in my household, and I

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Speaker 2: just honestly, I'm just in love with her. And it's

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Speaker 2: such a I always looked used to think about those

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Speaker 2: dog people, in those pet people. I think, man, you

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Speaker 2: guys are kind of losers, like you know, go and

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Speaker 2: hang out with some humans, make some meaningful relationships. Why

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Speaker 2: are you at home all the time with your pet?

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Speaker 2: But clear honestly, it's it's it's quite addictive.

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Speaker 9: Do you have full ownership of this dog? And are

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Speaker 9: you financially responsible for this dog?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 9: Okay, and yes we have one remaining cat of two

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Speaker 9: got very sick about four weeks ago. Let's say she's

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Speaker 9: really in the twilight of her life. But anyway, went

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Speaker 9: to the vet. Was the cat clearly was a wee six.

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Speaker 9: I was asked, would you like to sign I do

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Speaker 9: not resuscitate? I said, what when I get the bill

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Speaker 9: because it was already by stage and well into the hundreds.

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Speaker 9: But anyway, said cat is now living. But when I

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Speaker 9: commented to the vet, she's never actually, in a funny sense,

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01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 9: been more cheerful since the first one died about a

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Speaker 9: year ago and said, never have a second cat with

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Speaker 9: your cat. They don't like other cats. They really like

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Speaker 9: to be number one and only one.

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Speaker 22: That's why we're dog people, clare Me and Ryan definitely

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Speaker 22: dog we have Over the last few years. We've had dogs, chickens, ducks, horses, sheep.

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Speaker 22: We've got the sort of lifestyle block for which we

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Speaker 22: are woefully ill equipped, I need to add, but we

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Speaker 22: are quite good at looking after the dog. The other

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Speaker 22: animals tend to look after themselves, and the dog is

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Speaker 22: like we've got three kids. The dog was always like

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Speaker 22: the second or third kid, depending on the hierarchy at

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Speaker 22: the time. We loved our dog and I often confused

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Speaker 22: my youngest son with the dog and call them by

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Speaker 22: the same name.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, you're right Ryan.

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Speaker 22: Until you have a dog, you don't understand the absolute

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Speaker 22: purity of the friendship you can have with your beautiful dog,

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Speaker 22: unlike human beings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty nice.

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Speaker 9: Just picking up the pop of any other human, any

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01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 9: other creature look at shows the level of devotion that

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Speaker 9: you know, God.

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Speaker 2: On YouTube beyond clear. Thank you very much for that.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting from everybody, actually, and I'll tell you what

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Speaker 2: the text machine has gone it's broken, it's gone nuts.

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Speaker 2: We will get to some of that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and see people are really of it crossed with us. Josie,

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Speaker 9: bring it on, Josie woman, it goes both.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to some of it after this. That is clear.

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Speaker 2: The Lord journalist and Josie Beganny Child fun ceo here

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Speaker 2: on news Talk ZIB.

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Speaker 9: Oh, that was fun.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Dupless Alan Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: News Talk ZB. It has just gone five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from six. We just had a lively discussion about the

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Speaker 2: war in Ukraine and with our huddle this evening, and

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Speaker 2: I just read one text from the thousands we got

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Speaker 2: sent in the last couple of minutes because things get

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Speaker 2: a little heated. You can either have peace or you

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01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 2: can have justice. You cannot have both. Both of your

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01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: commentators want to continue the war until there is nothing.

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Speaker 2: I think this is the point, isn't it. You either

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Speaker 2: negotiate and negotiations involve concessions to try and get to

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Speaker 2: a cease fire or a truce and then hopefully maybe peace,

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Speaker 2: or you continue fighting. And continuing fighting means more money

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Speaker 2: from America, and it means a lot more money from Europe,

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Speaker 2: and our European country is really in a position to

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Speaker 2: be able to afford to fork up billions and billions

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Speaker 2: and billions more for how many more years? That's really

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Speaker 2: the question, though, that I guess the question that the

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Speaker 2: world is grappling with right now. Just gone four minutes

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Speaker 2: away from six here on Newspaloks here be showing up.

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Speaker 2: After six, we're going to talk to Nicola Willis. There

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Speaker 2: was a really interesting piece from Thomas Coglan and The Herald,

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Speaker 2: and it talks about our debt, and it talks about

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Speaker 2: the international ratings agencies who look at us and say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're worth this a triple A plus whatever. And it

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Speaker 2: just made the point that we are spending today twice

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Speaker 2: as much servicing debt as we were in any year

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Speaker 2: prior to COVID. And one of the things that governments

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Speaker 2: all over the world are doing is not pulling back

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Speaker 2: the money that they dished out during the COVID years.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that we dished out during the

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Speaker 2: COVID years was the school lunches, and I just thought,

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Speaker 2: you know what, maybe they need to just cut the

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Speaker 2: free school lunches altogether. If the complaints are so bad,

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Speaker 2: you know, are the kids really that hungry if they're

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Speaker 2: not eating the lunches? It's half a billion dollars in funding.

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Speaker 2: Can our books support it? Nicola Willis live next.

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Speaker 1: Do keeping track of where the money is flowing. The

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Speaker 1: Be Good Evening.

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Speaker 2: It is seven after Sexier on News Talk said b

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Speaker 2: coming up. Shane Soley has a market update for us.

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Speaker 2: The CEO of New Zealand, King Salmon, is on the show.

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Speaker 2: The government's pouring a bit of coin there into aquaculture.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Gray's Out of the UK will have the latest

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Speaker 2: on Starmer and how the Brits are viewing his performance

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Speaker 2: at this emergency summit over in Europe right now though

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Speaker 2: Nichola Willis is with us, the Finance Minister, Minister. Good evening,

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Speaker 2: Good evening, run. Good to have you on the show

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Speaker 2: was always I noticed in the health announcement today that

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Speaker 2: the funding is going to be tied to performance, for

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Speaker 2: you know, there's going to be KPIs. Can we expect

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Speaker 2: to see more of this type of funding in the

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Speaker 2: budget that if you give money to these departments, actually

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Speaker 2: you'll have some expectations about how it's going to be

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Speaker 2: spent and what you expect from it.

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Speaker 20: Absolutely, So what we judge the health system by is

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Speaker 20: what do patient see as an improvement? And of course

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Speaker 20: we want to ensure that GPS get the funding that

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Speaker 20: they need, but that needs to result in something that

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Speaker 20: you can actually appreciate. So are they seeing more patients,

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Speaker 20: is it that you wait less time? Are they making

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Speaker 20: sure that immunizations are getting into the arms of our kids.

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Speaker 20: So we're having a clear direction of tying additional funding

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Speaker 20: to increased performance so that New Zealanders get a better deal.

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Speaker 2: Because I imagine they will say turn around and say, well,

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Speaker 2: thank you, that sounds nice. I'd love to get the

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Speaker 2: extra money, but in order to get that money, I

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Speaker 2: need to hit the targets first. And how do you

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Speaker 2: hit the targets until you've got the people or the

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Speaker 2: extra resources to do it.

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Speaker 20: Well, what we're saying is, in addition to their annual

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Speaker 20: increases in funding that GPS always get, we're also going

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Speaker 20: to put another two hundred and eighty five million of

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Speaker 20: this performance based funding in there. And that's for really

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Speaker 20: reasonable things to make sure New Zealanders can see their

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Speaker 20: GP faster. So it's incentives to offer enhanced access after

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Speaker 20: our keeping their books open to new patients, achieving government

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Speaker 20: health targets and doing some more minor planned care. So

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Speaker 20: I think that's utterly reasonable that, yes, we keep uplifting

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Speaker 20: your funding each year, but when we give you a

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Speaker 20: boost like this, New Zealanders get a boost as well.

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Speaker 2: So well we can expect see more of that type

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Speaker 2: of talk and performance incentives in the budget.

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Speaker 20: Yes, because what we want to see is improved results

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Speaker 20: for people, not just more money pouring in. We had

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Speaker 20: years of more money pouring in to every facet of

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Speaker 20: New Zealand life under the last government, and many keywis

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Speaker 20: will tell you things didn't really improve much in many areas,

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Speaker 20: whether it was educational achievement, whether it was actually roads

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Speaker 20: being built. So our focuses value for every dollar of

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Speaker 20: yours that we spend.

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Speaker 2: Great piece by Thomas Coglan in the Herald this morning,

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Speaker 2: Well they always are from Thomas, but big deficit, rising debt.

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Speaker 2: You know he's spoken to all the rating agencies and

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Speaker 2: I just found a really interesting part was from S

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Speaker 2: and P who said that after you know because we're paying. Now,

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Speaker 2: what are we servicing debt? Servicing costs of what nine

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Speaker 2: billion dollars, which is double what they were pre.

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Speaker 20: COVID, that's right, and that's a huge amount of money.

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Speaker 20: That's a money triple what we invest in the police

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Speaker 20: every year. So the debt comes with a.

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Speaker 2: Price and double defense.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: So what So one of the things that they've talked

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Speaker 2: about is during COVID, a lot of governments around the

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Speaker 2: world came out with policies and programs and actually, we're

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Speaker 2: just having a hard time pulling them back. We've created

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Speaker 2: an expectation. Have we done that with school lunches?

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Speaker 20: Well, look, I'm going to be candid with you on

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Speaker 20: school lunches, which is this. I accept the argument that

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Speaker 20: says I don't want kids not learning at school because

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Speaker 20: they're so hungry they can't concentrate. That was the initial

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Speaker 20: reason for a school lunch program. But I think we

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Speaker 20: should always line that up with parental responsibility. So when

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Speaker 20: I see teachers and principles saying this food isn't very tasty,

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Speaker 20: I do expect the contractors to be delivering high service.

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Speaker 20: But I also think if mums and dads are really

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Speaker 20: unhappy there's nothing to stop them putting a veggiemite sandwich

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Speaker 20: and a banana in their children's school bag. And actually,

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Speaker 20: that's why we have a welfare system in this country,

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Speaker 20: so that every family raising children has a minimum level

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Speaker 20: of income needed to deliver for their needs. So I

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Speaker 20: think we do need to get away from the idea

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Speaker 20: that the government does everything. We have chosen to continue

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Speaker 20: the school lunch program in an efficient way, and we

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Speaker 20: should keep having performance from those contracts. But none of

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Speaker 20: that means the end of parental responsibility.

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Speaker 2: No, but aren't you by by doing that, by continuing

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Speaker 2: with the program, you are abdicating parental responsibility because the

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Speaker 2: state is inserting itself and saying we'll provide it. And

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Speaker 2: as soon as you do that, the end that you've

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Speaker 2: got kids saying, well, I had pit every day. I mean,

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Speaker 2: for goodness sakes, I had lunch and sausage every dayment

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Speaker 2: at school, And I said, you know, you just hate it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you create an expectation and once you've done that,

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Speaker 2: it's very hard to undo, isn't it.

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Speaker 20: Well, what we have done is reduced the amount of

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Speaker 20: expenditure on that program significantly, made it leaner and meaner.

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Speaker 20: We've done that on a time limited basis so that

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Speaker 20: we can evaluate it, see what effect it's having, and

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Speaker 20: then make decisions.

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Speaker 2: For the future, so you could get you could cut

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Speaker 2: it further in future.

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Speaker 20: That's not what I'm saying today. Kebinet's made a decision

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Speaker 20: to fund the program as it is in a reduced form.

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Speaker 20: But as I as I say, I think that parental

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Speaker 20: responsibility is still very important. And before people complain that

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Speaker 20: their kids really don't like the lunch let's remember mums

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Speaker 20: and dads can make lunch boxes for their kids, or

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Speaker 20: you know, get their kids to make their own lunch boxes.

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Speaker 2: True. Hey, terms of trade numbers are today good this

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Speaker 2: the December quarter, up three point one percent. It's largely

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Speaker 2: on the back of our you know, our primary industries.

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Speaker 2: It's dairy, it's red meat. Those things are going up

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Speaker 2: and so we do better.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, that's right. Go the farmers. And I tell you

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Speaker 20: I've spent a bit of time in rural New Zealand recently,

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Speaker 20: and that money is starting to flow through into those

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Speaker 20: communities because when farmers are making more money, they tend

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Speaker 20: to spend it at their local shops. They tend to

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Speaker 20: buy equipment, do more repairs on farms, and that's great

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Speaker 20: news for all of us.

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Speaker 7: And this is a.

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Speaker 20: Continuing story where the prices we're getting for our exports

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Speaker 20: are rising faster than import prices, and so actually our

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Speaker 20: terms of trade is now thirteen point six percent higher

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Speaker 20: than in December. That it's a really good thing. It

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Speaker 20: basically means that New Zealand is doing a better job

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Speaker 20: of paying our way in the world.

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Speaker 2: There's a story out this morning about these three thousand

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Speaker 2: low income families. The government has decided not to adjust

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Speaker 2: this very little known tax credit threshold, which effectively has

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Speaker 2: frozen their incomes. A lot of them are single parent

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Speaker 2: households for the year. Do you are you aware of

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Speaker 2: that or do you have a problem with that.

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Speaker 20: You haven't characterized it quite right, Ryan. What we did

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Speaker 20: at the budget was we made the generous decision to

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Speaker 20: pass on a twenty five dollars increase in the in

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Speaker 20: work tax credit as part of our tax package to

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Speaker 20: this group of families. So that went well above the

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Speaker 20: increase that they would normally increase in a year. And

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Speaker 20: so what that means is that we're not then doing

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Speaker 20: another increase at this point in the year as is

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Speaker 20: historically the case, and families are still much better off

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Speaker 20: than they were prior to the tax package. This payment

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Speaker 20: is all about ensuring that families are always better off

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Speaker 20: in work than not working, and that they face good

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Speaker 20: incentives to take on extra hours of work. I'd fully

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Speaker 20: acknowledge there are still issues in the working for Family

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Speaker 20: system which mean that sometimes those incentives to keep working

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Speaker 20: extra hours aren't as good as they should be. And

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Speaker 20: that's something I've got under active review, and I think

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Speaker 20: we can do better on in the future.

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Speaker 2: All Right, tunds like we might get something in the budget.

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Speaker 2: And what about ACC, because obviously Bailey's gone, it's Scott

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Speaker 2: Simpson now in charge, seven point two billion dollar deficit.

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Speaker 2: Is the turnaround plan still on track? What's happening here?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely?

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Speaker 20: There's two independent reviews underway. The first is on ACC's

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Speaker 20: operational performance. So that's basically saying if someone goes on ACC,

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Speaker 20: we want confidence that they are doing the right things

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Speaker 20: to get them back to work rehabilitated as soon as possible,

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Speaker 20: and their performance in that way has really fallen off

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Speaker 20: in recent years, and you and I end up paying

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Speaker 20: for it. Because that's why levees keep increasing by as

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Speaker 20: much as they have, and we want to see those

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Speaker 20: levy increase moderation over time. So that means ACC has

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Speaker 20: to get better at buying the right rehab getting people

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Speaker 20: back to work sooner. And then the second thing is

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Speaker 20: we're also reviewing their investment strategy. They manage nearly fifty

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Speaker 20: billion dollars worth of investments, so we need to make

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Speaker 20: sure that they're managing them in the best way possible.

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Speaker 2: All Right, did you see the Oscars result? And have

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Speaker 2: you seen anor the movie that won?

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Speaker 4: Ah?

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Speaker 20: Look, Ryan, the truth is I don't get out much,

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Speaker 20: so I haven't seen that one. I haven't seen that one.

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Speaker 2: Even if you did. Good luck affording the movies, absolutely

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Speaker 2: outrageous what you pay to go see a film these days, minister,

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much you time, Nicola will Nicola Willis, who's

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Speaker 2: the finance minister? It is sixteen after six News Talk

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Speaker 2: ZBB will take a look at the markets.

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Speaker 1: Next, it's the Heather Duple see Allan Drive full show

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Speaker 1: podcast on my Heart Radio empowered by News Talks EBB.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen minutes after six News Talks ZB Shane Soley Harbor

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Speaker 2: Asset Managements with US, Shane good evening. Okay, Ryan, what

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Speaker 2: is this, this meeting between Trump and Zolenski and the

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Speaker 2: pesky jd Varanes butting in what does it mean for

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Speaker 2: capital markets? How capital markets dealing with the bombs and

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Speaker 2: the surprises.

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Speaker 15: It was pretty fiery, wasn't it. Well, Look, actually markets

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Speaker 15: in the US were rattled initially. We saw the US

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Speaker 15: dollar actually go up. That's what happens when people get

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Speaker 15: worried about risks, they go into a rather protected place

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Speaker 15: to be. Then the shoemaker actually she went down, but

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Speaker 15: then it had a really good rally into the end

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Speaker 15: of the period. So actually been of it. All US

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Speaker 15: dollar up, US shares up. I guess that this has

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Speaker 15: become a little bit wary about White House announcements. You know,

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Speaker 15: we also had mister Trump talking about his new cryptocurrency

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Speaker 15: reserve that put a little bit of a match under

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Speaker 15: the bitcoin price, which has gone up eighty percent since

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Speaker 15: you talked about that. So yeah, we're nothing in this

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Speaker 15: part of the world today. We haven't really reacted to

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Speaker 15: this part of the world. But people are going to

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Speaker 15: watch really closer this week about whether there's more discussion

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Speaker 15: about Canada Mexico tariffs, where they're going to be delayed

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Speaker 15: until April, and whether the Chinese tower go up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or even the amount changed right because he said

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent, and then there was an official from

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Speaker 2: the White House coming out today saying, oh, actually he

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01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: may change that from twenty five. A lot to watch,

1510
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: A lot to watch. What was behind the Warehouse Group

1511
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 2: their sheer price down seven percent today? What was there there?

1512
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 15: We saw a pretty cautious update from the company. These

1513
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 15: tough trading conditions they've continued, and a lot of it's

1514
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 15: about promotional activity. So basically the company is having to

1515
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 15: cut prices and really stimulate sales to try and get

1516
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 15: their numbers up. Unfortunately, it's not quite working their way.

1517
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 15: Group salers are down for this first half of twenty five,

1518
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 15: not as much as people have been expecting, and they're

1519
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 15: actually talking about sales, but it's all about Hey, they've

1520
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 15: had to cut their prices. They're getting their margins back

1521
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 15: to where they were perhaps pre COVID more normal levels. Unfortunately,

1522
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 15: that means the next half is looking pretty soft for

1523
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 15: the Warehouse. In fact, their numbers are going to look

1524
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 15: quite a lot lower than whether Capital Market expected. As

1525
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 15: a result, we've seen this the chair price come off

1526
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 15: quite quite sound me today.

1527
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 2: In contrast to that, we've had Pacific Edge. The price

1528
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 2: is a strong recovery over the last couple of days

1529
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 2: on some positive news.

1530
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1531
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 15: Look, the American Neurology Eurology Association actually amended their guidelines

1532
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 15: to say that Pacific Edge is sex bladder trioch test.

1533
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 15: This is for discovering whether you unfortunately have bladder cancer

1534
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 15: or otherwise. They said, look, actually this is great, We're

1535
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 15: going to put it in our standard of care. And

1536
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 15: as a result, this may see Pacific Edge go back

1537
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 15: to the US centers for Medicare Medicaid. It's the major

1538
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 15: insurance provider from the government. Recently they said, look, we're

1539
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 15: not going to provide insurance. We're not going to cover

1540
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 15: the costs of the test anymore. And so the Pacific

1541
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,560
Speaker 15: Edge share price fell. This actually puts them back in

1542
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 15: the game in terms of potentially getting that funding back.

1543
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 15: So the share price has gone one hundred and thirty

1544
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 15: percent in the last few days to fourteen dollars or sorry,

1545
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 15: fifteen sense I should say today. So yeah, big big

1546
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 15: pop there on that data.

1547
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 2: Very quickly. The New Zealand shear market generally was down

1548
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 2: three percent last month.

1549
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: Why.

1550
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Spark hasn't helped us in the last

1551
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 2: really while. But what's behind that is that just a

1552
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,799
Speaker 2: general first half reporting season and being a bit gloomy.

1553
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 18: Yah.

1554
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think there's a combined thing as you right, Ryan,

1555
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 15: there's a global activity in this trader, and certainly we've

1556
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 15: just talked about disappointing earnings results that have fed through

1557
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 15: the Ernie's downgrades for this current financial year. And also

1558
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 15: we had quite a large capital raising both Ryan and

1559
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 15: this ban Dollar Rays. We needed to sell things to

1560
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 15: fund that, but it wasn't all gloomy with green shoots

1561
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 15: coming through in a few results. Lower government bond you

1562
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 15: was helpful for valuations and we might look back and

1563
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 15: say some of these liquidity events around Ryman and even

1564
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 15: the MSCO Global Next changes for contact creating some great

1565
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 15: opportunities for long term investors. But yeah, we've hopefully seen

1566
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 15: the base Ryan. Is probably the best thing we'd say

1567
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 15: is we've seen these green shoots more regularly.

1568
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,799
Speaker 2: Shane, Thanks for your time, Shane. Sally Harbor Asset Management

1569
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 2: time is twenty three minutes half for six. When we

1570
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 2: come back where New Zealand did win slightly a little

1571
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:09,480
Speaker 2: bit at the oscars.

1572
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates of the Business

1573
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: Hour with Ryan Bridge and Man's Insurance and Investments, Grew

1574
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 1: your wealth, Protect your future. News talks that'd be.

1575
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Carl Carrington, he's the King

1576
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 2: Salmon ceo here in New Zealand about deep sea salmon farming.

1577
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: How lucrative could this be for New Zealand? How hard

1578
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 2: is it to actually do to achieve? And why is

1579
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 2: the government putting twelve million dollars of our money into it?

1580
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 2: He's with us after the news at five point thirty.

1581
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 2: I've been telling you all evening that the oscars have

1582
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 2: been on and they are now wrapped up. They're probably

1583
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 2: all half pissed by now, I imagine. But there was

1584
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: a glimmer because we didn't win no New Zealand film

1585
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 2: or Firm one, but there was a glimmer of a

1586
01:20:55,320 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 2: Kiwi win. So some of the sound for June two

1587
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 2: was done here in New Zealand, and the movie picked

1588
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: up the gong for Best Sound.

1589
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 4: Wow.

1590
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 18: Thank you so much to the Academy and thanks to

1591
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,879
Speaker 18: my amazing team both here in New Zealand.

1592
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 2: They joint Israeli Palestinian documentary Now other Land one best

1593
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 2: doco short and their filmmakers weren't shy. Apparently. In their

1594
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 2: speech weighing in on the Ghaza War.

1595
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 23: We called on the world to stake serious actions to

1596
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 23: stop the injustice and to stop the cleansing of Balistina.

1597
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 2: Bible.

1598
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 23: When I look at Basel, I see my brother, But

1599
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 23: we are unequal. We live in a regime where I

1600
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,839
Speaker 23: am free under civilian law and Basil is under military

1601
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 23: laws that destroy his life and he cannot control. There

1602
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:51,520
Speaker 23: is a difference path a political solution without ethnic supremacy,

1603
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 23: with national rights for both of our people. And I

1604
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 23: have to say, as I am here, the foreign policy

1605
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 23: in this country is helping to block this path.

1606
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 2: There you go. That's the OSCARS for you. It is

1607
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: coming up to news time, News Talk SETB.

1608
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1609
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Ridge and Mayor's Insurance and Investments,

1610
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: Grow your wealth, protect your future, News Talks EDB.

1611
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 5: Good evening.

1612
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 2: It is twenty five away from seven. You're on News

1613
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 2: Talks at B. So just to update you on a

1614
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 2: couple of things from Washington. Zelenski has said he is

1615
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 2: still wanting to sign this mineral deal that they walked

1616
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 2: away from. They both walked away from really in a

1617
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 2: sense after the White House before also the Canadian Mexican

1618
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 2: Towrists for Shane Sally talked about that earlier. So they

1619
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,799
Speaker 2: are due to go on Wednesday our time, so Tuesday

1620
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: local time. This is for Canada and Mexico. Still not

1621
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 2: quite decided on what percent they're going to go with,

1622
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 2: so Trump has previously said twenty five percent. However, he

1623
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,799
Speaker 2: has had some action from Canada and Mexico on the border.

1624
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 2: They've rushed to try and tough enough or strengthen their

1625
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: border security, try and stop some illegal migration immigration going through,

1626
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 2: but also to try and stop the flow of fence

1627
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 2: and although that hasn't been very successful anyway, so they

1628
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 2: are trying. So the question is how much is Trump

1629
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,799
Speaker 2: watching their efforts and how much will they be rewarded

1630
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 2: for those efforts come Wednesday, We'll have to wait to

1631
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 2: find out. I suppose twenty four away from seven try

1632
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 2: and bridge government putting faith that our aquaculture industry will

1633
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 2: take off. It's investing twelve million dollars more into salmon

1634
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 2: farming over the next five years and we'll look at

1635
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 2: ways to expand farming to deep water and prove its viability.

1636
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,759
Speaker 2: That's all in the hopes of adding five hundred million

1637
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: bucks to salmon x by twenty thirty five. Carl Carrington's

1638
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 2: the n Z King Salmon CEO. He's with me this evening. Hi, Carl, Oh,

1639
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 2: good evening. How yeah, really good? Thank you. First of all,

1640
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 2: can you the exports currently about two hundred million dollars,

1641
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,959
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, is another five hundred million dollars realistic?

1642
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 21: Absolutely? I mean the sector has really been stymied for

1643
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 21: growth for over two decades and our biggest challenge with

1644
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 21: market development is we just don't have any any product

1645
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 21: available to build the new markets. Now we could, if

1646
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 21: we had the volume, we would be able to sell

1647
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 21: everything twice over straight away. So we're in we're in

1648
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 21: very deep markets. We're a very small niche. We've got

1649
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 21: highly differentiated product and it's in strong demand globally. So

1650
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 21: if we had the volume, yes, we could sell it

1651
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 21: and it's very high value. So five hundred million of

1652
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 21: export revenue, it's incredibly realistic. We've just got to unlock

1653
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 21: the industry and let us get on with growing it.

1654
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 2: By that you mean more consent for farming, well.

1655
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 21: More consents for farming, but in particular the future is

1656
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 21: about getting into what we call open ocean farming, such

1657
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 21: as the Blue Endeavor site, which we have the consent

1658
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 21: for now, which is seven k's off Cape Lambert in

1659
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 21: the out Marlborough Sound. So that's kind of where we

1660
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 21: see the long term future for growth and you know,

1661
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 21: but it's not without out its risks, and we have

1662
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 21: to firstly pilot the stepping into that environment and when

1663
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,719
Speaker 21: we're confident then we can scale it up and expand

1664
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,480
Speaker 21: and that's where the future for salmon growth.

1665
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 2: Will be, which is part of what this money is for. Right,

1666
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 2: Are you having to go deep into the ocean because

1667
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 2: the waters are getting warmer closer to the coast, so

1668
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 2: you're needing to get out to the cool of fisher water.

1669
01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 21: Yeah, that's all part of it. For sure, waters out

1670
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 21: further out and are going to be a little bit cooler,

1671
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 21: But the main thing is the water column is very deep,

1672
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 21: and you know, it's just we think it'll be just

1673
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 21: a better overall environment out there. So that's the main

1674
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 21: driver for it.

1675
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 2: How much harder is that because it's obviously that's a

1676
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 2: bit of government money. I menagine you've got a lot

1677
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 2: of els going into How much harder is it to

1678
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 2: farm deep water versus coastal Well.

1679
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 21: We're cautiously optimistic about it, or else we wouldn't be

1680
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 21: doing it in the first place. So we will be

1681
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 21: using technologies that are currently deployed internationally. The big difference though,

1682
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 21: it needs to be able to work for a New

1683
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 21: Zealand king salmon species as opposed to generally Atlantic or

1684
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 21: co host species, and it needs to be adapted to

1685
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 21: New Zealand conditions. So, as I said, courtially optimistic that

1686
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 21: you know the infrastructure will be will be fine, it's

1687
01:26:58,240 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 21: just we have to learn how to drive it in

1688
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:00,919
Speaker 21: the New Zealand conditions.

1689
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 2: Right, What will it look like if you're I don't know,

1690
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 2: if you're flying driving by in a boat or flying

1691
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 2: over this and that it's seven k's off the coast,

1692
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 2: what do you see.

1693
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 21: Well, it won't see very much at all, especially if

1694
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 21: you're on the coast, you'll hardly be able to see

1695
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 21: anything at all because it's seven days away. And if

1696
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 21: you're flying overhead, you'll just see beautiful round pins and

1697
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 21: it all look very pristine, no visual impact at all.

1698
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 2: Really okay, And so I guess in theory the potential

1699
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 2: here is unlimited because we have so much coastline, we

1700
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 2: have so much open ocean. If you can prove then

1701
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 2: you can do it with king salmon and the open

1702
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 2: ocean in New Zealand, then the world's royster, so to speak.

1703
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 21: Well exactly, and I think this is fantastic for New

1704
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 21: Zealand because we have to find primary well, we have

1705
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 21: to find sectors of the economy that are able to

1706
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 21: really lean into the agenda to double export value, and

1707
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 21: salmon is one of those great untapped sectors. We've got

1708
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 21: a unique position in the world with such a differentiated species,

1709
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 21: We've got fantastic open ocean environments be able to do it.

1710
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 21: We just have to test the test the technologies and

1711
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 21: prove up that we're capable of doing it. And really,

1712
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 21: the world is the sector's oyster. This is not just

1713
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 21: about New Zealan King salmon, by the way, this is

1714
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 21: a program that we're undertaking that the learnings will be

1715
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 21: shared across the industry.

1716
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,600
Speaker 2: Can you just one more time, is why is it

1717
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 2: tacking you so long to do this? To develop this

1718
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 2: what is the tricky part that you're trying to work

1719
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: out that's going to take years to figure out.

1720
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 21: Well, first of all, we have to get the consent right.

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Speaker 21: So Blue Endeavor took us nearly ten years and ten

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Speaker 21: million dollars to sort through weight our way through the rama. Thankfully,

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Speaker 21: we're there in the end and we've we've got the

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Speaker 21: concent through. Now what we need to do is actually

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Speaker 21: just get comfortable that firstly, the infrastructure works in the

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Speaker 21: environment the way we're setting it up, that we know

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Speaker 21: how to operate in that environment. It's quite different versus

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Speaker 21: an inshore environment. We're also going to be piloting what's

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Speaker 21: called recirculating aquaculture systems, so that's land based aquaculture because

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Speaker 21: to step into the open ocean you have to have

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Speaker 21: the fresh water capability as well, which is where you

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Speaker 21: grow the baby salmon and eventually they become small and

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Speaker 21: then you transfer them out to sea. So it's an

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Speaker 21: all integrated program.

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Speaker 1: It really is.

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Speaker 21: From the mountains to the sea is what we have

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Speaker 21: to have to think about. And also we have to

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Speaker 21: actually breed salmon to be resilient for the future as well.

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Speaker 21: So part of the program we'll be looking at some

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Speaker 21: novel technologies to use for breeding more resilient fish, so

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Speaker 21: identifying in our families of salmon, which the brothers and

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Speaker 21: sisters that are really resilient to things like thermo tolerance.

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Speaker 21: So it's a complex business and I always say aquaculture

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Speaker 21: you need to be no A dose of patients and

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Speaker 21: caution will serve us well.

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Speaker 2: Fascinating stuff here. I was thinking, you just throw the

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Speaker 2: fish in the ocean and bobs your uncle. It's all done. Carl, Hey,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much and best of luck with this.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like, as you said it endless possibility.

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Speaker 21: Excellent, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Carl Carrington, the Enzi King Salmon chief executive with us

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Speaker 2: talking there about the fact that the government's putting twelve

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Speaker 2: million more dollars into salmon farming over the next five years,

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Speaker 2: and much of it is going to be deep water.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Gray and the UK next croaching.

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Speaker 1: The numbers and getting the results. It's Ryan Bridge with

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Speaker 1: the Business Hour and mas insurance and investments can crue

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Speaker 1: your wealth and protect your future and news dogs.

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Speaker 2: B fourteen minutes away from seven. So Starma the charmer

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Speaker 2: goes to Washington. He manages to get some real runs

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Speaker 2: on the board with Donald Trump, and then it all

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Speaker 2: falls apart at the weekend when Zelensky goes in, he's

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Speaker 2: visit in the Oval Office and things get a bit heated.

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Speaker 2: Devin Gray is our UK europe correspondent. Starma has now,

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Speaker 2: after all of that has taken place, met with European leaders,

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Speaker 2: the Canadian Prime Minister Justin should always there as well,

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Speaker 2: and they've come up with a four stit plan to

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Speaker 2: guarantee peace in Ukraine following hopefully what will have will

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Speaker 2: eventuate as a truce or a peace deal.

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Speaker 24: Kevin, good evening, Good evening, Ryn, Yeah, that sums up

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Speaker 24: what's been going on, frantic frantic exchanges and policies and

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Speaker 24: summits backwards and forwards. They're talking of a coalition of

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Speaker 24: European allies, but there is no coalition that's been formed yet,

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Speaker 24: so that's going to be up for debate, of course.

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Speaker 24: But I think this idea that as Secure Starmer, the

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Speaker 24: Prime Minister of the UK said Europe must do the

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Speaker 24: heavy lifting, is now absolutely right and accurate. The question

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Speaker 24: is will America supply anything, air cover, anything like that

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Speaker 24: to help this along. But the focus now moves away

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Speaker 24: from secure Starma and the UK to the European Union

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Speaker 24: leaders all twenty seven now going to meet in a

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Speaker 24: summit in Brussels and going to talk through these plans.

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Speaker 2: And of course the importance.

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Speaker 24: About that, Ryan is there are going to be all

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Speaker 24: the leaders there, and that includes those that were not

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Speaker 24: invited to London at the weekend for that earlier summit.

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Speaker 24: And many of those, or some of those, I should say,

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Speaker 24: are much friendlier with Vladimir Putin, and of course if

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Speaker 24: they're trying to get a unanimous decision, that's going to

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Speaker 24: be almost impossible. Hungary's Victor Auburn very friendly with Russia

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Speaker 24: and Moscow, and he is likely to try and absolutely

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Speaker 24: block anything concrete that the others might be planning. So

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Speaker 24: we'll have to see how they get along to that.

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Speaker 24: And this phrase coalition of the willing came up. Now, Ryan,

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Speaker 24: if you think that may sound vaguely familiar, well, yes,

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Speaker 24: because it was the same phrase the United States used

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Speaker 24: for British help to invade Iraq more than two decades ago.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was an unfortunate term for them to

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Speaker 2: be using. Actually, now the cleanup operation underway this after

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Speaker 2: a freight train carrying a toxic chemical derailed.

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Speaker 24: This has been really bad. So the toxic chemical is benzene.

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Speaker 24: It's used in aviation fuel, but it can cause cancers

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Speaker 24: among humans. That is thought to be its side effect.

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Speaker 24: It has basically derailed off a train in Czechoslovakia. There

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Speaker 24: was a massive explosion. Indeed, the flames could be seen

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Speaker 24: some twenty meters high. The Czech Republic being trying really

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Speaker 24: hard to make to keep on top of that that

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Speaker 24: the flames now out, but there's a huge cleanup operation

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Speaker 24: as you can imagine, because this was an absolutely horrific accident.

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Speaker 24: It was a freight train and nobody's quite sure why

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Speaker 24: it derailed, how it derailed, but certainly it has caused

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Speaker 24: a massive problem with several tankers and a lotomotive locomotive

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Speaker 24: court flames and destroyed in this incident.

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Speaker 2: Staying with chemicals is ammonia powered vistle that's arrived in

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Speaker 2: the UK stocking at the Port of Southampton.

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Speaker 24: Yes, and controversial actually because a lot of people that

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Speaker 24: really don't think it was ever going to work. But

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Speaker 24: this basically has four different pistons, if you like, and

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Speaker 24: two of them operated by Ammonia and the other by

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Speaker 24: normal fuel, and it's a vessel which is really pretty

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Speaker 24: huge and has to go through all sorts now of

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Speaker 24: the tests and all sorts of checks by the various

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Speaker 24: authorities the Maritime and Coastguard Agency here in the UK.

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Speaker 24: It's a Singapore flagged vessel and it's going to make

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Speaker 24: its way to West India Dock in London after those

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Speaker 24: tests are conducted by the Maritime and Coastguard Agency. It's

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Speaker 24: a four stroke engine, two of which capable of being

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Speaker 24: fueled by ammonia the diesel. As I said, ammonia is

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Speaker 24: a zero carbon fuel. That's why this is so important

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Speaker 24: and has the potential to substantially reduce screenhouse gas emissions

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Speaker 24: when used for shipping. So the Coast Guard Agency saying

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Speaker 24: that it exemplifies how shipping can become more sustainable and

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Speaker 24: it wants to see the UK Government at the forefront

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Speaker 24: of this particular venture. But over the coming months, global

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Speaker 24: shipping regulators are now going to have the chance to

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Speaker 24: look at this vessel and the fast track shippings moving

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Speaker 24: away from that so called dirty bunker fuel as some

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Speaker 24: would say, and embrace real zero fuel standards.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, we kind of course put the sales back on Givin.

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Speaker 2: But then it would take a while, wouldn't it, Givin Gray,

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Speaker 2: you can your correspondent. Time is nine minutes away from

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Speaker 2: seven news Talk ZIBB.

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Speaker 1: It's the hitherto se Alan Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for all of your texts and

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Speaker 2: feedback today. Jeez, we've had some good ones. This one

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Speaker 2: from Melissa. I didn't get to it, says Hi Ryan.

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Speaker 2: This is about doctors and why overseas trained doctors can't

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01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 2: just come here and practice. Ryan. What you're struggling to understand,

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Speaker 2: says Melissa in a slightly contemptuous tone. I imagine is

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Speaker 2: that about our New Zealand medical professionals. Is that New

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Speaker 2: Zealand trains and has always trained mcguyvers standard doctors. They

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Speaker 2: can do anything because of our size and funding model,

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Speaker 2: whereas bigger, overseas private funding medical systems produced doctors that

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Speaker 2: just do one job. I thought you had you all

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Speaker 2: had to do a bit of everything because the armbones

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Speaker 2: connected to the knee bone, connected to the whatever.

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Speaker 25: Well, I hope your arm bone is not connected to

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Speaker 25: your nevon.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, Well, this is why I'm not a doctor, but

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Speaker 2: you know, I would assume that most doctors would know

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Speaker 2: all of these things. Anyway, it is coming up sticks

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Speaker 2: away from seven news took sib and what are we

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Speaker 2: going out to tonight?

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 25: So a bit of a sad one unfortunately tonight, Ryan,

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Speaker 25: and we've had some sad news in the zb family

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Speaker 25: came through last week. The longtime executive producer of this

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Speaker 25: show back when it was Larry Williams Drive, Malita Tull,

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Speaker 25: she passed away from cancer. That news came through last week.

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Speaker 25: Melita was executive producer of Larry Williams Drive between two

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Speaker 25: thousand and four and twenty fifteen. Even if you're a

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Speaker 25: longtime listener of this show, you might not recognize her name,

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Speaker 25: but she was the executive producer and that's a really

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Speaker 25: important behind the scenes role. Basically, she would have decided

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Speaker 25: if you listened to any show between four and twenty

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Speaker 25: fifteen and you enjoyed it, if you learned anything, if

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Speaker 25: you know it made you enhanced your day even for

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Speaker 25: a minute. Her fingerprints were all over that. The executive

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Speaker 25: producer decides what's going to go on the show, and

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Speaker 25: between her, the host Larry Williams, and the technical producer

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Speaker 25: at the time, Helen McCarthy, they ran a really, really

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Speaker 25: good show. And being the executive producer means you sometimes

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Speaker 25: have to argue with the host about what's going to

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Speaker 25: go on the show, and arguing with Larry Williams, let

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Speaker 25: me assure you from personal experience, not an easy thing

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Speaker 25: to do. So she was very very good at it.

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Speaker 25: They were in a really good show. They were in

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Speaker 25: a really good show even when Helen McCarthy was away,

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Speaker 25: and they had to pull a very inexperienced technical producer

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Speaker 25: over from Radio Sport named Dance Millisitch myself straight out

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Speaker 25: of radio school. More or less, I learned a lot

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Speaker 25: about how to be a producer from Melita, and she

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Speaker 25: was very very patient with me, very very good at

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Speaker 25: teaching me what I needed to do, showing me what

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Speaker 25: I needed to not do. And she also had this

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Speaker 25: just killer deadpans sense of humor, so I was often

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Speaker 25: cracking up right when I was supposed to be playing

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Speaker 25: stings and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I never really talked her.

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Speaker 25: About what kind of music she liked, so I had

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Speaker 25: to reach out for some help today but thankfully her

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Speaker 25: partner Colin and their son Lorenzo came through. They told

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Speaker 25: me that she would have liked to hear kiss me

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Speaker 25: by sixpence none the richer, So we're going to go

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Speaker 25: out on that. I hope you guys realize that I'm

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Speaker 25: here at ZIB. We are going to miss Melita just

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Speaker 25: as much as.

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Speaker 2: You guys are well see them ivery one.

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Speaker 4: Sells Jeers.

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