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Speaker 1: I'll get out there for rugby league fans around the

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Speaker 1: country and indeed around the world, and welcome into the

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Speaker 1: Mad Monday podcast again for another Monday. My name is

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Speaker 1: Mina Stewart and I am joined down the line from

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Speaker 1: a gloomy looking why he by Ben Hurley, Good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: being hey, getting on mate.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, let's just say that the weather is kind

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Speaker 2: of reflecting my mood. This in ourl season is just

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Speaker 2: a gloomy day with patches of drizzle.

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Speaker 3: It is, it is.

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Speaker 1: It's I think that game kind of summed up our

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Speaker 1: whole season, didn't it. We lost to the Dolphins thirty

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Speaker 1: to thirty two and golden point, and it was just

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Speaker 1: it just summed up like an okay start patches where

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Speaker 1: we completely fell off some really heartbreaking one hundred meters

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Speaker 1: breakaway tries. Then we come right back into it only

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Speaker 1: to get beaten not just by a drop goal, but

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Speaker 1: by a two point field goal, which I think was quite.

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Speaker 3: Poet in the way that we lost. That wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've never scored a two point field goal, right,

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Speaker 2: I can't remember one in the Warrior's history. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we barely scored a field goal. It's just not something

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Speaker 2: we do well. And you know, as exciting as it

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Speaker 2: is going to Golden Point, you know, my heart just

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Speaker 2: sinks because it's just not something we're good at.

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Speaker 1: No, and I think, Oh, somebody mentioned on one of

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Speaker 1: the Reddit threads that I was trawling this morning looking

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Speaker 1: for some sort of glimmer of hope, and they've done

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Speaker 1: the numbers on if we had have made all of

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Speaker 1: our kicks where we'd be sitting, we'd actually be inside

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Speaker 1: the top eight. There's so many of these games where

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, we lost a couple of kicks here,

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Speaker 1: we don't really have a kicking option. In defense of that,

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Speaker 1: they would say, because someone came up to me this

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Speaker 1: morning and said, how come we don't have a kicker?

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Speaker 1: It's like we do. We've got four of them. This

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Speaker 1: is just the fourth one, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't actually be on his shoulders. Is it as

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Speaker 1: simple as we missed all our kicks?

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Speaker 2: No? Oh, I've got something to say about Shane Harris

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Speaker 2: Devita and I professed this in our thread last night.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a great player. I'm just not sure

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Speaker 2: he's a half. I'm not sure he has those little

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Speaker 2: you know, a little skill that you know, those little skills,

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Speaker 2: kicking skills, and he does make the odd mistake. I

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Speaker 2: would like to see him put on ten kgs and

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Speaker 2: move into the thirteen role. I think he's really good

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Speaker 2: on defense. He's a brilliant reader of the game. And

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Speaker 2: you know, why not have a ball playing possibly kicking

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Speaker 2: number thirteen in the in the style of like a

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Speaker 2: Brad Fittler.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mind it. I do know he is

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Speaker 1: actually quite a lot smaller than you'd think he'd be.

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Speaker 1: I remember when he first started. This was a few

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Speaker 1: years ago now. I interviewed him and this was when

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Speaker 1: he'd just broken into the squad and I said, what's

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Speaker 1: your because we actually had I think snacker chingy chips

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Speaker 1: in the studio and I was offering them around, like

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Speaker 1: you guys are allowed to eat these or what? And

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Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, I'm allowed to eat anything I want.

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Speaker 1: The coaches want me to put on as much muscle,

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Speaker 1: as much weight as I possibly can, So yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. I reckon just go healthily the this summer,

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Speaker 1: tuck in Christmas time, go nuts and then and then

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Speaker 1: come back with a bit of bulk.

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Speaker 3: I agree with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if Metcalf can come back next year

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Speaker 2: and he was one of our best players the other day.

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Speaker 2: But he can't do everything. He's so solid. So him

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Speaker 2: and Metcalf and the halves and and SNeW Harris Tavita,

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Speaker 2: you know, potentially replacing like a Jazz and Dila Walker.

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Speaker 2: You know, we are going to be short of a

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Speaker 2: you know, then yeah, that's it's it's not a it's

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Speaker 1: It's not the panacet for me though, despite the fact

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Speaker 1: There was a turning point. The first sixty was like

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Speaker 1: He goes the length of the field and then a

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Speaker 1: who's running through celebrating what was a botch to try,

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Speaker 1: gives him the flying People's knee from hell to the

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Speaker 3: Knocked them.

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Speaker 1: Stone Gould the only dude who showed up with his

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Speaker 1: boots laser that on Sunday. He got knocked out, Hia,

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Speaker 1: he's gone. He'll be gone next week because it didn't

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Speaker 1: come back. On a couple of plays later, we then

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Speaker 1: Hids and all of a sudden and there's four concussions

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Speaker 1: out on the field, And that is what turned at

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Speaker 1: least around the commentary. We were just saying, everybody out there,

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Speaker 1: high speed hongies for the Warriors, get them behind your team.

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Speaker 1: Hit but whoever you're watching the game with texts coming in,

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Speaker 1: I've head butted the dog, I've head butted my nan,

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Speaker 1: I've heit buttered the mirror. They've all been sent for Hias.

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Speaker 1: And I think that turned the game around, at least

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Speaker 1: just for the commentary, but it felt like for the

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Speaker 1: Warriors too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, potentially it's good that we're having a terrible season.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise there could have been more injuries. You know, more tries,

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Speaker 2: more celebrations equals more injuries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking, God, if we win this, we

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Speaker 1: have to fully lean into high speed Hongies for the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: It's the only way around.

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Speaker 1: I went over and hit buttered Chris and the commentary

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, a Hongy from Chris is quite

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Speaker 2: a heavy duty thing anyway, with his Schnods.

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Speaker 1: Area code hongies going around at the ground. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was o Sullivan and Ice that Ccht had a couple

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Speaker 1: I think they're under a fair bit of pressure. Would

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Speaker 1: one of those drop goals?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure he can drop kick

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because when and he missed it, but Jemina Sako

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Speaker 1: It was mammoth shot, but he missed it, thankfully. But

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Speaker 1: in the end it didn't matter. I think the other

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Speaker 1: one I dug out a bit of a statistic here

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Speaker 1: for you. Webe only used six interchanges on the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Now you're allowed ten.

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Speaker 1: And I think this is that would shock anyone who

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Speaker 1: hadn't watched the Warriors this season, But anyone that has,

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Speaker 1: you know that he, I mean, did last even Come on, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't think he did. Played zero minutes, played zero minutes.

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Speaker 1: So on top of the fact that we're already struggling

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Speaker 1: as a squad, it doesn't it feel like we're playing

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Speaker 1: with one hand tied behind our backs when he's not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird with Lasso, isn't he Because he really

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Speaker 2: is only can only really play one position. That's that's

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Speaker 2: why I think we are going to miss Jazz next year,

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Speaker 2: because and Dylan Walker, because there's such great utilities, you know,

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Speaker 2: and and Jazz can play hooker as well. You know.

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of criticism about Webbe's use of

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Speaker 2: the bench all year, and no one has a solution.

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Speaker 2: No one gets the theory here. What is what is

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Speaker 2: the tactic? You know, we're a team which is traditionally

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Speaker 2: not necessarily the fittest team, and I'm not sure that

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Speaker 2: we're getting any fit of this year, so why not

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Speaker 2: make use of the resources?

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Speaker 3: Is it a trust issue?

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Speaker 1: Because you know, I've been fielding texts from my dad

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Speaker 1: this whole season being like he's been so pigheated. When

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Speaker 1: is he going to when's he going to finally switch

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Speaker 1: out years back? When's he going to make use of

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Speaker 1: the interchanges? Is it just that he has a group

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Speaker 1: of players that he trusts and he doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's important, that trust thing. And you know, players

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Speaker 2: feeling comfortable in their roles and all that. You know,

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Speaker 2: they don't call them we're blesso for no reason. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's definitely a holistic coach if you like. So. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the only reason I can see is that he

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Speaker 2: wants people to feel comfortable in their roles and and

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Speaker 2: not feel like they're under scrutiny every single minute of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think Sean Johnson would have made a

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Speaker 1: difference to that game?

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Speaker 2: Not this year?

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Speaker 3: Even just the drop goal. You know he's got absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, of all the players we've got, he's a

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Speaker 2: guy who can ice games. Yeah yeah, absolutely, no good

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Speaker 2: call on that one. But Tomty's just done such a

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Speaker 2: great job in that seven jersey for well, they played

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Speaker 2: in the eighteen jersey. Yeah, yes, but yeah, he's just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this there just seems to be like a I

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Speaker 1: think he's just finally admitted they don't click together. And

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Speaker 1: then but that's brutal because you know, tomoighty's going to

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Speaker 1: be our half back presumably next year, so I don't know,

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Speaker 1: benching him, how does that go for you next year?

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Speaker 2: Is there just an aesthetic clash in that Shawn Johnson's

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Speaker 2: always been the handsomest guy at the club, and now

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Speaker 2: there's a new handsomer potentially, I'm not saying necessarily, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's down to individual tastes, but definitely a you know,

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Speaker 2: pretender for the crown of handsomest.

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Speaker 1: I think I think you've put the phit the nail

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Speaker 1: on the head there, Ben, I think that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: it is. There's a there's a problem there with you know,

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Speaker 1: we talk about overlapping skill sets. You've got two beautiful,

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Speaker 1: beautiful men and Seawan Johnson's walked out unto the field.

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Speaker 1: Just go fucking hold on, I hang on, here's how

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Speaker 1: this works, mate.

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Speaker 2: It's too much sexy, too much sexy on the field.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: And I think if anyone's proven that this year, it's

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. You know, they've got too many hot thirds

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Speaker 1: all across the park and look how that's turned out

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Speaker 1: for them. So yeah, you're right, maybe a few more

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Speaker 1: I goes in the team next year could be the guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just to you know, just to add to my

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Speaker 2: gloomy mood about this. In ourl season, my other team

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Speaker 2: lost the Broncos in the weekend, So I'm really not

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Speaker 2: I'm just really not feeling this season. I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: wishing it's over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean mathematically, they asked web after the game,

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Speaker 2: That's what it did seem like at the start of

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Speaker 1: We've got gun sho Ray gunshow after Yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you'd hope. Have we got two more

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Speaker 1: If I'm honest, they said it was a quad issue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it must look I don't know. I hope he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, the last game is the twenty

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Speaker 1: the only ways you can now get this a segue.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Ben, each one the Mad Monday.

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Speaker 3: Team again, thank you you're broadcaster.

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Speaker 1: Four tickets the Warriors and four and twenty five ouches.

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Speaker 2: He did.

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Speaker 1: Just text the monthly keyword to three two three six.

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Speaker 1: the new keyword. And this month it is game. So

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Speaker 1: Stonker off the Round.

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Speaker 3: All right, now, it is time for the Stalker off

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Speaker 3: the Round.

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Speaker 1: And it was Friday Night's fixture between the Eels and

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Speaker 1: the Panthers. In the end it was thirty six to

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Speaker 1: thirty four. But this was one of the wildest games

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Speaker 2: I was just watching this at home and just a marvelous,

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Speaker 2: marvel game, amazing comeback from a champion side. I actually

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Speaker 2: The next year, the Rabbits was seventh, The following year

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Speaker 2: they played the Eels in the Grand Final, and then

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Speaker 2: the following year after the Eels were tenth. Last year

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Speaker 2: they played the Broncos beat the Broncos in the final.

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Speaker 2: The Broncos are currently thirteenth, So they not only beat them,

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Speaker 2: they demoralized them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this team, they ripped the beating hard on them.

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Speaker 1: The Rabbits and the Eels second last and third last

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a continual slide. Why don't you lose

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Speaker 2: like three years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like you just have a shit of

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Speaker 1: The Spirals at Rotts and that's why we did well

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, there was a tepic moves. It served

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Speaker 3: The highlight of this game for me, This game actually bloom.

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Speaker 1: I was watching this round in the mate's place and

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Speaker 1: The most insane captain's challenge that you will see in

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Speaker 1: And this is not the first time that Gutho has

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Speaker 2: No? I'm look, Garthuson's a great player, but Nathan Cleary

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Speaker 2: They keep losing players they keep every year. I guess

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't see them missing the Grand Final

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's what's on the line.

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Speaker 1: Except obviously in a Grand Final and then subsequently every

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Speaker 3: I just all know.

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Speaker 1: I just think I think it's one of those ones

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Speaker 3: You have to have Nathan Cleary.

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Speaker 1: I brought him back here. Yeah, I couldn't have played

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Speaker 3: It's paid.

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Speaker 2: You brought him three times?

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Speaker 2: See, I just didn't think he was going to I

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Speaker 1: It didn't matter because in our head to head league,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got out to a flyer and then I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the Origin period that. Yeah, I always

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got really arrogant because in our head to

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Speaker 1: Don't get a second shot at it.

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Speaker 3: I'm more of an.

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Speaker 3: Did you see the.

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Speaker 1: Shane Flanagan Stephen Crichton nose by debacle? No, so he

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Speaker 1: was taking I mean, as it happened, Stephen Crichton, I

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Speaker 1: believe he had tackled Flannagan and then he's just hid

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Speaker 1: into Flannagan's head and his nose ended up in his mouth.

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Speaker 1: And now there's a bit of conjecture as to whether

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Speaker 1: Flanagan actually bit down or not. But when he came

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Speaker 1: back up, Crichton had blood coming out of his nose.

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Speaker 1: And when he's taking photos of fans after the game,

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Speaker 1: he's got blood coming out of his nose.

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Speaker 3: He's laid a formal complaint.

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Speaker 1: With the NRL, said the Shane Kyle Kyle Flanagan bit

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Speaker 1: his nose. And so that's in front of the judiciary

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Speaker 1: this week. We'll probably find out by tomorrow whether it's

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Speaker 1: happened or not.

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Speaker 3: That's like a six week ban.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like a Mike Tyson type situation a different sense. Organ.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a photo I saw this morning and

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Speaker 1: you could see his noses in Flannagan's mouth and its

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Speaker 1: stretched out you can see.

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Speaker 3: So I was like, he's definitely but on their brain explosion.

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Speaker 1: And the other one I wanted to get to is

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether I've got a bit of like

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Speaker 1: Trump derangement syndrome about this new eighteenth NRL franchise stories.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was going to be the Kia in

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Speaker 1: the South Island, then it was going to be Papua

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Speaker 1: New Guinea. The latest story is that it's been confirmed

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Speaker 1: that it's going to be the Bears and they're going

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Speaker 1: to be playing out of Perth.

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Speaker 2: Oh is that confirmed?

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing. Every report that I see

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Speaker 1: sees that it's all confirmed. But they said that about

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Speaker 1: P and G, they said that about fucking the care.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's really anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well, I heard it from somebody in the know in

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Speaker 2: the weekend that there's going to be three new ones.

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Speaker 3: All in the one go.

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Speaker 2: That's what I had heard, and one of them will

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Speaker 2: be the Bears. And that's all I know.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so maybe what's so confusing is they're all they're

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Speaker 1: all confirmed.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's a P andng A Bears and a South.

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Speaker 3: Island Southern care Yeah, potentially.

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Speaker 1: All I know is as someone with family that lives

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Speaker 1: over in Western Australia, that flight to Perth sucks if

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Speaker 1: marking sucks man, because it's like a three hour flight

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Speaker 1: to wherever Sidney or Melbourne, whichever way you go. That's

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Speaker 1: another five six hours over to Perth plus the time

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Speaker 1: zone difference Like that is it? It only serves to

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Speaker 1: punish the Warriors further. But now if we find out

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Speaker 1: that they bring in P and G as well, I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you if that happens in the same season, the

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Speaker 1: Warriors will be the only team who have to play

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Speaker 1: Perth and then in Port Moresby back to back.

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Speaker 2: Are they going to play out of Port Moresby or

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Speaker 2: they play out of Brisbane?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Have a team in the Queensland competition, don't they?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. I don't know if they do.

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Speaker 2: I think the team in the Bringing competition, yeah right.

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Speaker 1: I just yeah, I don't know how they're going to

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Speaker 1: play that. I would hate I don't think it would

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Speaker 1: work if they brought it in a P and G

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Speaker 1: team and then played them out of Brisbane Because I

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Speaker 1: feel like you've sort of end up where Morena Pacifica are,

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Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, it's a team for the Pacific Islands.

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Speaker 3: It's like I'm going to play out of the other. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Anyway, Western Beers apparently coming out of Perth.

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Speaker 2: The Western Bears, I mean doesn't really. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's really going to satisfy the North Sydney Bears fans

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Speaker 2: who have felt aggrieved for many, many years.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think so either. It's I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But again, like I said, you see these reports every

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Speaker 1: other day. We'll find out that the Warrington Wolves are

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Speaker 1: during the NRL next year. Now, all right, we're going

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Speaker 1: to take a quick break. When we come back, we're

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Speaker 1: going to have Hurley's Heroes. But just before we do,

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of spots left on our trip and

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Speaker 1: for legal reasons earlier love this to join the ACC

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Speaker 1: team for a massive rugby league weekend in March of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I'll tell you what's going on there.

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Speaker 2: But we've got oh okay, nah, but rugby league themed

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Speaker 2: weekend in the United.

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Speaker 1: States, that's right, And the key word that you need

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Speaker 1: to text to book your spot is Vegas. Now that

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to read too far into that

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Speaker 1: for legal reasons, but Massive Rugby League weekend first weekend

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Speaker 1: of March twenty twenty five. If you want to join

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Speaker 1: the ACC team, you can text Vegas three two three

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Speaker 1: twos Little three two three six to book your spot.

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Speaker 3: Quick break, we'll come back with Hurley's Heroes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, welcome to Hurley's Heroes. Just a little side note.

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Speaker 2: The Papua New Guinea Hunters are a professional rugby league

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Speaker 2: team based in Papua New Guinea. They play in the

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Speaker 2: Queensland Cup. They are a feeder team for the Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: Oh they go, but they are.

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Speaker 2: But I was wrong about them being based out of Brisbane.

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Speaker 2: They are in the competition, but they are a Port

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Speaker 2: Moresby side. Anyway, let's get into this week's Hurley's Heroes and.

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Speaker 4: Lighter Shawn Johnson retiring, I thought we could take a

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Speaker 4: look at another Warriors legend. I was a self proclaimed

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Speaker 4: average rugby union player at school and when I moved

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Speaker 4: to Wellington, I joined the Wellington Workers rugby league team

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Speaker 4: and began attracting attractive attention from professional clubs. I had

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Speaker 4: offers from the Bulldogs and from the Paramatta Eels, but

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Speaker 4: turned them both down to play for the Warriors. I

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Speaker 4: played three hundred and one games for the Warriors, scoring

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Speaker 4: sixty three tries. I averaged seventy six minutes a game

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Speaker 4: throughout my career and only missed ten percent of the

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Speaker 4: available games through injury. Since retiring, I did a building

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Speaker 4: apprenticeship in Nelson. I've also done some assistant coaching roles

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Speaker 4: with the Black Ferns and the Broncos NARLW team am I,

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Speaker 4: Simon Mannering, Stacey Jones, Michael Luck, Arwyn gutenbeil All, Lee

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Speaker 4: Odin Ryan.

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Speaker 1: I like that there's a couple of extra ones in there,

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Speaker 1: because you knew you'd have to put Lee Odin Ryan in.

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Speaker 3: There to chuck a couple more red hearings in there.

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Speaker 1: Look, unfortunately, I've just been out at Mount Smouth Stadium

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Speaker 1: the Giant Mural. It's got a number on there that

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Speaker 1: really gave it away. I also know about the the

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Speaker 1: apprenticeship thing, and in a couple of weeks the Warriors

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Speaker 1: are going to have their Night of Knights where they

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Speaker 1: named the Clubman of the Year. That medal is named

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Speaker 1: after the one and only Simon Mannering.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I thought it might be a little bit easy,

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Speaker 2: but look, do you know what well done manya? And

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Speaker 2: I just thought it would be nices think about a

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Speaker 2: nicer time in Warriors history. And we love Simon Manoring,

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Speaker 2: a very humble and private guy, definitely not a celebrity,

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Speaker 2: and you know, lives a pretty quiet life these days.

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Speaker 2: I think he was.

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Speaker 3: Oh what a player he was. Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 1: That actually did spark a bit of joy in me.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, there's a mural out there of him,

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Speaker 1: sort of like a Spartan from the movie three hundred

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Speaker 1: and it's got three hundred.

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Speaker 3: And one on it.

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Speaker 1: That's out in the car park out there at Mount Smart. God,

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Speaker 1: how would you go being Warriors legend Simon Mannering just

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Speaker 1: on various building sites. Can you imagine how hard he

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Speaker 1: must get punished?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I thought exactly that. When I was

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Speaker 2: researching this, I was just like, you must spend your

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Speaker 2: entire life talking about specific Warriors games, particularly the twenty

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Speaker 2: eleven Grand Final, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be a big part of it.

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Speaker 1: But I also there'd be people like who would have

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Speaker 1: such a firm memory of you doing something. But to

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Speaker 1: the players themselves, it's like asking someone what they did

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Speaker 1: at work three years ago on a Wednesday at four

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Speaker 1: in the afternoon. I have no fucking idea. Also sety

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Speaker 1: as a part of it, but I think there'd also

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Speaker 1: be There'd be the guy who hits you up straight away,

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm a huge fan, blah blah blah. They'd be

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Speaker 1: the guy who sidles up.

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Speaker 3: To your lunch. Hey, you there are Simon Manoring, aren't you.

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Speaker 1: Then there'd be the other guy who'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: so you can play three hundred games for the fucking Warriors,

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Speaker 1: but you can't get the door hinges on my last time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't put some framing timber up in the rain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, I feel so much better about myself now.

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Speaker 1: Just thinking back to club legend Simon Manoring, I.

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Speaker 2: Could get a Simon Manoring tattoo, I reckon.

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Speaker 3: Just about where would you get it? Of his face?

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Speaker 2: Maybe of his faith, or maybe it was just a jersey.

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Speaker 3: Simon mannering jersey just on the on the side.

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Speaker 2: A few different positions. So he played scenery, he played locke,

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Speaker 2: he played back row.

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Speaker 1: I think back row would be That's what I associated

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Speaker 1: with When I think of the great man Simon Minoring,

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Speaker 1: he did any he did anything the club asked of him. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining me on the podcast

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Speaker 1: this week, Hurley, greener pastures ahead. I'm sure, as we said,

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Speaker 1: the last game for the Warriors, our last home game

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Speaker 1: for this season at least is on the twenty third

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Speaker 1: against the Bulldogs. I'm just friends looking up who we've

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Speaker 1: got this week. It is the Sea Eagles, who we've

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Speaker 1: only played once this season. That was the draw, the

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Speaker 1: draw at the start of the year. That is on Friday,

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Speaker 1: eight pm. And I think that's Chris and Die commentating

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Speaker 1: that one. We'll have another podcast episode on Thursday for

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Speaker 1: you to sink your teeth in.

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Speaker 3: But thank you very much for joining us early and

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Speaker 3: we'll see you later on.

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Speaker 2: Anybody