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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty. Find your one.

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Speaker 2: Of a kindhardle with me this evening.

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Speaker 3: Chosey pagani if Child fun ceo therein Tim Wilson of

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Speaker 3: Maximums to shoot hello you two.

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Speaker 4: Hello, there are you going?

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Speaker 2: What happened to you?

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Speaker 4: Just?

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Speaker 2: Joe just?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I was just vaguing out, thinking, oh,

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Speaker 5: nice to do, Tim, and I forgot to say hello.

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Speaker 2: I just watched that happen.

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Speaker 3: I watched you were looking at me when I started

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Speaker 3: saying your name. When I said Tim's name, you looked

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Speaker 3: away and it was like, Yeah, what I.

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Speaker 5: Was thinking is that you're going to go Joseph child funder,

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Speaker 5: CEO of Child Fund, Tim Wilson's CEO of Maximums too.

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Speaker 5: It's like, who would have guessed that Tim and I

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Speaker 5: would be CEOs.

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Speaker 2: It's like, that's actually.

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Speaker 5: What was happening in my mind.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Tim, I reckon, I reckon.

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Speaker 3: It's just that the old cops complaining about the young cops,

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Speaker 3: because as as Chris said, nobody's as good as us.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, now that you're fully here that you know,

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Speaker 4: it's an eternal truism that all young people are supposed

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Speaker 4: to be useless and this just confirms that we've got

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Speaker 4: the dark now. Look, I thought I thought it was

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Speaker 4: there was a interest. I mean Mark Mitchell saying, okay,

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Speaker 4: as I boosted up from sixteen to twenty weeks, Chris

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Speaker 4: Kale is saying thirty weeks compared to say, with Australia's

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Speaker 4: twenty eight as a police college. But my question is

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Speaker 4: does more equal better? So I get the point about

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Speaker 4: maybe digging into a few more arrest and charging procedures.

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Speaker 4: But like him, I do like the fact that firearms, technical,

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Speaker 4: the road stuff all pretty good.

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Speaker 5: What do you think, Jersey, it's interesting. I do think

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Speaker 5: that the training needs to be longer. I think more

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Speaker 5: is probably better to when you think about it, it

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Speaker 5: takes three years to do a degree in gender studies

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Speaker 5: in twenty weeks to drive.

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Speaker 3: But you're around, I mean you're fairing around and getting

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Speaker 3: drunk every night and stolen during the day.

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Speaker 2: So that's why it takes three years. One thing I

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Speaker 2: did oh at university? Yeah, police college no, And they

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Speaker 2: just efficient right because I rowe a.

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Speaker 5: Young guy who's I've known since he was six years old.

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Speaker 5: He's just joined the police. He's fit, he's smart, so

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking, if you can't train someone like him properly

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Speaker 5: and they're not doing reports and sign there's something wrong

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Speaker 5: with the training maybe. But the other thing I thought

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Speaker 5: about because it turns out they're really good at shooting

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Speaker 5: guns and tasers, but they're not very fat and they're

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Speaker 5: whatever according to the surveys. So I reckon this. There's

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Speaker 5: a generation it's just sat on the couch eating chips,

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Speaker 5: playing video game, shooting zombies.

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Speaker 4: And which is which is where? Which is where we started? Actually?

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Speaker 4: But to that to that point though, I reckon. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so at the end of police college yet get it.

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Speaker 4: I want to know what they're like after two years

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Speaker 4: with a senior staff member being with them. I'd like

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Speaker 4: to hear the feedback on that because that's where that's

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Speaker 4: where the real learning probably happens.

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Speaker 2: They're not as fat.

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Speaker 3: They've got the desk Jobah, it's fine cruising around in

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Speaker 3: the car.

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Speaker 2: You get quite fat doing that.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Josie about Chris Bishop saying he

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Speaker 3: wants the house prices to fall?

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Speaker 5: I think good on them. This is a politician.

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Speaker 2: Maybe fair to.

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Speaker 3: Him he say he wants them to fall. He said

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Speaker 3: the fact that they are falling is a good thing.

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Speaker 5: Because what he's saying this is and he's a politician

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Speaker 5: where you're right or left, who knows why he's in politics,

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Speaker 5: is on a mission right now, so he's not afraid

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Speaker 5: to offend some people by making a choice. And the

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Speaker 5: choice he's making is that rather than house prices going

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Speaker 5: up and up and up in a bubble, which I

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Speaker 5: love because I'm a house owner, he's saying, I want

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Speaker 5: the money not to go to houses. I want it

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Speaker 5: to go to the productive sector. I want it to

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Speaker 5: invest in businesses. So I actually take my hat off

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Speaker 5: to any politician who is prepared to say what they

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Speaker 5: will do and what they won't do. And if you

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Speaker 5: think of labor in the last government, they could not

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Speaker 5: choose between what the problem in housing was. Was it

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Speaker 5: supply of social housing or was it affordability. Those are

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Speaker 5: two completely different problems and you're never going to solve

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Speaker 5: one of them if you don't make a choice.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree.

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Speaker 4: What do you think, Tim, Yeah, well, you look at

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Speaker 4: what Orgland's multiple today is seven point six times medium

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Speaker 4: wage to buy a median house. That's just out of

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Speaker 4: reach for so many people. Imagine three or four times

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Speaker 4: annual and which is what it's like in the States. Now,

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Speaker 4: I just don't. I will warn you will never google

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Speaker 4: suburban Chicago. Four bedrooms, four bathrooms, twelve hundred square meters

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Speaker 4: and it's one point two million New Zealand. It's basically

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Speaker 4: a country estate. And why yeah, yeah, I'm never.

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Speaker 5: Going to google that. Tim's that's weird Google.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why what?

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Speaker 4: It's going to make you drop because we compare comparing

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Speaker 4: that to you know, three or four times median income

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Speaker 4: as opposed to seven point six times, which is what

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Speaker 4: it is in Auckland. So I think that's the comparison.

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Speaker 5: Really brave about this here is that you know, every

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Speaker 5: other government, if you think about the John Key government,

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Speaker 5: they were really clear to say, oh no, no, there's

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Speaker 5: a wealth effect here. We know we don't all lose

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Speaker 5: that support. We're not going to say that house prices

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Speaker 5: have to go down. So he's actually he's taking a risk.

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Speaker 5: But actually, you know, voters respect it when you when

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Speaker 5: you say, hey, this is.

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Speaker 3: A week sense Yeah, I mean, listen, we have spent

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Speaker 3: our entire lives reading body language, right, so in sense

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Speaker 3: when somebody is dicking around and just trying to say

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Speaker 3: the thing that they think that we want to hear.

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Speaker 3: Whereas as opposed to saying at the conviction, which he does, Josie,

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Speaker 3: do you think for that reason if something was to

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Speaker 3: happen in lux and fell under a bus, that actually

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Speaker 3: he would be the guy that takes over.

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Speaker 5: I think he'd be a definite contender. Yeah, he's got

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Speaker 5: that kind.

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Speaker 2: Of who else he's the guy? Well?

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Speaker 5: And Ericas Stamford is the other No, not well liked

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Speaker 5: to aboucus unfortunately No, But when has that ever been

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Speaker 5: a reason not to succeed.

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Speaker 4: It's just counting popularity, contest, threatened people.

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Speaker 5: That's right to him, it's not And I think that's

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Speaker 5: the thing again, coming back to Chris Bishop. Yes, of

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Speaker 5: course you're in politics to win elections. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 5: you're in politics to be popular.

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Speaker 2: Or light Yet totally, what do you think him? Might

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Speaker 2: he be? Might he be the guy?

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Speaker 4: Well? And look, I think you've you've nailed something here

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Speaker 4: which is saying what you actually think. And we need

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Speaker 4: we need more of our politicians to do more of that,

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Speaker 4: I think. And that's that's across across the political spectrum,

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Speaker 4: not cow tewing to Oh here's what you know Here's

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Speaker 4: here's what the party line is. No, here's what I

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Speaker 4: think is actually true.

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Speaker 5: Give us a name.

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Speaker 2: You're dodging.

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Speaker 5: My question takes over from Luxum.

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Speaker 4: Who takes a well, well, oh, I don't know. Let

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Speaker 4: them sort of out.

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Speaker 3: It could be.

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Speaker 4: I quite quite like your Christanford too, because she's saying,

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Speaker 4: you know, she's she's doing great stuff in education. How

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Speaker 4: about a horse race, Stanford versus Besh go for your life.

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Speaker 3: Know anything about Erica, but I know that Bush has

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Speaker 3: got two children and a wife, and a fluffy dog

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Speaker 3: and a cat I've never seen and.

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Speaker 5: A mullet which she's now got rid of it.

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Speaker 4: Ye. Well, and actually you know you know who I'm

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Speaker 4: going to go for Sime and Brown. Four kids, now,

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Speaker 4: that's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: That's just because it matches your life. Okay, hang on

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Speaker 2: a tech, We'll take a break. Come back to you guys,

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Speaker 2: and just to tick the.

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Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the global leader

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Speaker 1: in luxury real estate.

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Speaker 3: You're back with the huddle, Joseph Gunny and Tim Wilson. Tim,

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Speaker 3: have you got any concerns about the Reserve Bank independence

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Speaker 3: from the current.

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Speaker 4: Crop Oh, look, I think it's obviously it's something that

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Speaker 4: has to be preserved. But I'm not particularly concerned about

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Speaker 4: the Well, I probably shouldn't have said that today. But

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Speaker 4: then again, if you look at the Reserve Bank's behavior,

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Speaker 4: they're not particularly compliant. They're clearly not doing what the

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Speaker 4: government's saying. And so you compare that with Adrian or

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Speaker 4: who fire host the Economy and was compliant. I think

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Speaker 4: we've got what you might call a productive disharmony here.

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Speaker 2: I am not too.

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Speaker 3: Worried about it, Josie, because I think the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 3: has been so wrong for such a long time that

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Speaker 3: that and it's a terrible thing to say that.

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Speaker 2: I'm almost fine with them losing their independence.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very bad, very bad.

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Speaker 5: It's very bad, naughty because I think what Claire Matthews

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Speaker 5: said is right, where the principle of independence has to

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Speaker 5: be maintained. Even when you agree with someone will disagree

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Speaker 5: with him. Right, And this is nowhere near Trump's attacks

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Speaker 5: on the head of the Fed, Jerome Powerwell, he wrote

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Speaker 5: a letter saying you're a fool and a numb school

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Speaker 5: and a stupid person you know, which you know is

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Speaker 5: clearly biased.

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Speaker 2: No, nobody's going to be quiet.

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Speaker 5: Do you think you have to be careful of political

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Speaker 5: independent you know, and the pressure that you might put

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Speaker 5: you have protected.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I did think it was slightly weirder when when chrispher

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Speaker 5: Luxen and Nichola Willis stood up to take credit for

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Speaker 5: the Reserve Bank dropping the ocr which was even odder

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Speaker 5: than criticizing or saying I'd like the I'd like the

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Speaker 5: Reserve Bank to do this because it's not it's it's

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Speaker 5: monetary policy. It's not meant to be anything to do

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Speaker 5: with government. Yeah, so yeah, that was slightly odd. I

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Speaker 5: don't think I've ever seen that well.

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Speaker 4: I also we're burying the lead here, which was the

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Speaker 4: thing that I quite liked, which is Mike Hoskings audition

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Speaker 4: and audition for the governorship of the Reserve Bank. I

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Speaker 4: think he's got I mean, he's not doing much in

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Speaker 4: the afternoons. What do you, guys, reckon, is.

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Speaker 5: That anything that man can't do?

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Speaker 3: He does everything you do realize he's also running the country,

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of.

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Speaker 5: It, and mayor he's mayor of Auckland as well, secretly

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Speaker 5: without taking.

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Speaker 4: The personal number of things, and he does the vacuum.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the number of things that he comes up with

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Speaker 3: on his show that they then adopt his policy is

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Speaker 3: actually quite staggering, isn't it him.

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Speaker 4: It's very it's very impressive. He Now, this is the

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Speaker 4: problem with Governor.

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Speaker 2: In the Shadows repression Lord.

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Speaker 4: No, okay, wash your mouth out. That's complete right, We're

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Speaker 4: going to give.

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Speaker 2: Him such a big head.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Tim, have you ever gone on holiday with because

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Speaker 3: there's an article on the paper today about going on

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Speaker 3: holiday with your friends and what a bad idea isn't

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Speaker 3: the fact that you then fall out and never talk

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Speaker 2: Have you ever done it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, Look I read the article and I think

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Speaker 4: the takeaway is don't holiday with colleagues who you mistake

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Speaker 4: for your friends, who are actually dirtbags. This is not

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Speaker 4: actually about bad holidays. This is about a friendship crisis.

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Speaker 4: The fact that I think people have trouble finding true friends.

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Speaker 4: And if you think, pull back a bit, no one

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Speaker 4: talks about Jesus' biggest miracle, which is the fact that

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Speaker 2: Very good.

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Speaker 5: I was just saying to Heather actually that I think

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Speaker 5: I've lost more friends than I've gained in the last

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Speaker 5: twenty years and Heather's basically my best friend now, but

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Speaker 5: she doesn't know it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize.

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Speaker 5: Slightly alarming, So yeah, let alone go on holiday with people.

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Speaker 5: But that's probably of being a political commentation that you

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Speaker 3: They're not real friends if you lose them, Joe See

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Speaker 3: exactly true.

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Speaker 5: But I have had some very uncomfortable experiences on things

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Speaker 5: We did speak to each other again, but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, wait wait the doors shut, Josie.

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Speaker 5: The doors doors, Well, it's just a weird sort of

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Speaker 2: Got it, You've really got to escape. Hey, Tim, did

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Speaker 2: you how was your cruise by the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was great, it was it was It was fantastic.

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Speaker 4: We went with family, not friends and had a great time,

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Speaker 4: time of life. Boys got their hair braided on Mystery Island.

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Speaker 4: We did the water slide, I did the Twister. I

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Speaker 4: didn't do the green lightning because you drop eleven meters.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it was just making memories when you say

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Speaker 4: not holiday, but it wasn't a holiday.

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Speaker 5: By the way, friend who's I've got this aura ring now,

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Speaker 5: And I've got friend who's got an aura ring. And

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Speaker 5: he went on holiday with his family and then came

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Speaker 5: and or I said, you're in a very relaxed state.

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Speaker 2: Oh, because family, it's hard. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Did you take when you say said you went on

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Speaker 3: holiday with your family, Tim, was it just you and

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Speaker 4: No, I was there was one of family. Actually it

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Speaker 4: was my my birth father's family. So all of the hollingwords,

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Speaker 4: so it was. It was so lovely.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, deep.

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Speaker 5: But then Tim has so so many family, so much family,

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Speaker 2: You can't fit.

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Speaker 4: We always we always get we always get to this, Heather,

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Speaker 4: and we can we can shout it out when we

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Speaker 4: go on holiday together. And jose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll come on holiday with any of you guys

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Speaker 3: and help out with the children if you need. Thank

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Speaker 3: you and I expected back. Thank you so much, both

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Speaker 3: of you. Joseph Ganni Child Fund CEO. Tim Wilson Maximum.

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