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Speaker 1: So crime looks to be a focus this week. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to the first responders in the moment, but first

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Speaker 1: the government will be announcing changes the laws around shoplifting

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Speaker 1: and theft comes off the back of recommendations from the

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Speaker 1: Retail Crime and Sterial Advisory Group. The chair of that group,

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Speaker 1: of course, is Sunny Kochel, who's back with the Sunday Morning.

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Speaker 2: Very good morning to your Mike.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what's coming?

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Speaker 2: Well, Mike, we have already delivered three final reports to

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Speaker 2: the government and the first one was on citizens arress,

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Speaker 2: which to be announced in March. And I would love

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Speaker 2: to tell you more about the other two reports, but

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Speaker 2: those are confidential until the government seasons are announced. But

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited about what we will be announcing tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: For too long and the criminals have felt they're untouchable

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Speaker 2: and that's going to change.

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Speaker 1: And also the government of moving in the right direction

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Speaker 1: as far as you're concerned.

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Speaker 2: It is, Mike, the retail crime is costing New Zealand

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Speaker 2: over two point eight billion dollars, which is over fifty

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Speaker 2: million dollars per week, which is over seven million million

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Speaker 2: dollars per day. This retail crime, Jenny, we need to

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Speaker 2: put back into the bottle and we need to create

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Speaker 2: a zero tolerance response.

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Speaker 1: I think last since last time we talked, we've had

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Speaker 1: that business of the police not responding or claimed not

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Speaker 1: to respond to anything under five hundred dollars. Is that

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Speaker 1: being sorted out or has been sorted out to your satisfaction.

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Speaker 2: It was sorted out very quickly thanks to the leadership

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Speaker 2: of the Police Minister and also the Police Commissioner, and

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Speaker 2: that was turned around very quickly, and also on the reports, Michael.

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Speaker 2: Over the rest of the year, we will look to

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Speaker 2: finalize another four further reports and this includes a report

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Speaker 2: on facial recogition technology and a great powers for security

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Speaker 2: guard which the Minister has talked about publicly. So I'm

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Speaker 2: really excited. What're we go going to announced tomorrow and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you and the listeners will be too. You know,

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Speaker 2: these are the changes retailersts across the country has been

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Speaker 2: screaming out for good.

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Speaker 1: There will be more powerful retailers coming in some way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form other tomorrow before the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: because that's what you've wanted, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Look I mean, at the end of the day, you know,

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Speaker 2: retailers they have been frusted for so long. You know,

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Speaker 2: the biggest challenge we face is a perception by criminals

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Speaker 2: that they're untouchable, that there are no consequences for their actions,

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Speaker 2: that police won't respond, and that even if they do

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Speaker 2: that the courts will let them go. So this sense

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Speaker 2: of impunity harms us. All this need to stop, and

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Speaker 2: that's the work that we're doing.

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Speaker 1: Good stop, NOAs to catch up. We'll look forward to

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Speaker 1: tomorrow Sunnykoschiel, who's the chair of that Retail Crimeate Ministerial

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