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Speaker 1: It's your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate Finding the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're welcome. Today, Violent crime stats. We have news

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Speaker 2: and new news around the law change coming on retail

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Speaker 2: crime today. The idea of special economic zones now that

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Speaker 2: marked in the end the refinery turns out to be

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Speaker 2: an expensive no go? Are deszoned? As in the streamer

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Speaker 2: and whether they're going to up in the rugby market.

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Speaker 2: For Sky Politics Wednesday after raid, Richard Ardel and Steve

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Speaker 2: Price do nothing but enhanced matters as well. Hosky, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the day, seven past six. What is it about

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Speaker 2: the Left day that they can't stand scrutiny? Tory Farnow,

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Speaker 2: if you've missed it, as pulled out of a regular

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Speaker 2: slot with our Wellington morning host on zb because it's

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Speaker 2: not the direction she wants to go this year? Just

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Speaker 2: what direction is that she wants to go? Well, don't

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Speaker 2: you hate it when they make that complete crap up?

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Speaker 2: Tory Farner is inexplicably running again for reelection this year.

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Speaker 2: I suppose it's possible history might repeat itself and a

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Speaker 2: crowded field splits the vote, so you in fact end

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Speaker 2: up need comparatively little support to win. Three of the

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Speaker 2: top four candidates last time got forty two thousand votes,

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Speaker 2: which are let us slip through with thirty four. Little

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Speaker 2: did they know, of course, what they were voting for.

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Speaker 2: Wellington has become the posted child these past three years

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Speaker 2: for dysfunction. The fact they got a commissioner to write

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Speaker 2: reports tells you all you need to know. A good

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Speaker 2: mayor should kill to be on the city's biggest radio

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Speaker 2: station to be able to keep punters up to speed

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Speaker 2: on developments and sprut the achievements of the council. In

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Speaker 2: a shrinking media, the chance at a mass audience is

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Speaker 2: not to be sneezed at. And yet the sadness of

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Speaker 2: all of this is what, in reality has happened, is

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Speaker 2: that your local politician, especially one that's not up to much,

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Speaker 2: can seek shelter and hide more easily from the scrutiny

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Speaker 2: because there's less of it. Local body politics isn't covered

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Speaker 2: the way it used to be, and what coverage there

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Speaker 2: is is too often done by a junior who doesn't

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Speaker 2: have the interest or the institutional knowledge to do the

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Speaker 2: proper probing. In a broader sense, it has also played

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Speaker 2: its role in having more and more of us become

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Speaker 2: complacent when it comes to participation in the democratic process

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Speaker 2: every three years. I pray there's a better turn out

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Speaker 2: this year, but I'm not holding my breath. The trick

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Speaker 2: for zib Wellington, of course, is to have the major

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Speaker 2: opponents given plenty of air time. So far, now works

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Speaker 2: out what an idiotic decision that as she's made. Failing

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Speaker 2: to want to be held to account, never knows your reputation.

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Speaker 2: Any good Tory won't be the first Lefty to learn that.

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Speaker 3: Lesson who news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Well to prove the world has changed the bricks A

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Speaker 2: rumpling the defense spending.

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Speaker 4: On top of the funding of two point five percent

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Speaker 4: that I've just announced. Going forward, we will recognize the

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Speaker 4: incredible contribution of our intelligence and security services. Taken together,

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Speaker 4: we will be spending two point six percent.

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Speaker 2: Well, everyone's reporting two point five. He's saying two point six,

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Speaker 2: So the weird numbers will come back to those in

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Speaker 2: the moment. Trump does not represent the America, of course.

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Speaker 2: Europ's come to know and rely.

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Speaker 4: On the election of President Trump to a new context

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Speaker 4: through which.

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Speaker 5: European security should be viewed.

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Speaker 4: I mean, ever since the end of the Second World War,

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Speaker 4: European security has sheltered under the American umbrella.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, not to be done. Kimming now wanted to remind

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Speaker 2: everyone the Tories actually written the place until recently.

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Speaker 6: I will always be proud of the support the last

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Speaker 6: Conservative government gave in the run up to Putin's invasion

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Speaker 6: and those first crucial weeks and months of the war.

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Speaker 6: We helped prevent kre falling and we supported Ukraine in

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Speaker 6: regaining territory initially lost to Russia.

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Speaker 2: And just to remind the average brook life is a

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Speaker 2: bit average right now. They've also increased the power prices, I.

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Speaker 7: Think, significant increases in the wholesale price of gas, and

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Speaker 7: that's been driven by a number of factors, but they

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Speaker 7: are international factors, and it is further evidence, to be

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Speaker 7: honest that we need to move away from that reliance

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Speaker 2: Turn your mike on your radiot. Good news though the

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Speaker 2: Pope is still with us.

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Speaker 8: Today was the Pope sending a message that he's still

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Speaker 8: running things in the Catholic Church.

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Speaker 3: He met with two officials.

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Speaker 8: Signed off some decrees for future saints. He's also appointed

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Speaker 8: bishops today and sent a message for lent good.

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Speaker 2: And then we're getting ready for next year all ready, Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's you. Is mid terms and who better to be

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Speaker 2: governor of a higher than good old doge King Vervek.

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump was elected in a decisive mandate. He's reviving

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Speaker 9: our confidence in America. Now we need governors across the

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Speaker 9: country who rise to that same occasion.

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Speaker 2: And finally, news from the Shunchin Chemical Group in China

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Speaker 2: and who told their employees last month that anyone who

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Speaker 2: was single had until September to get married or they

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Speaker 2: were fine, very doped. They needed to quote resolve their

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Speaker 2: personal marriage issues and respond to the national called Marion

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Speaker 2: have kids. If they didn't do that by the end

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Speaker 2: of Q one, they would have to write a letter

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Speaker 2: of reflection. If they didn't do that by the end

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Speaker 2: of Q two, they would be evaluated by the company.

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Speaker 2: If nothing changed by Q three, then it's a don't

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Speaker 2: come Monday. Turns out turning well, it's all illegal, even

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Speaker 2: in China, So they withdrawn and apologized. News of the

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Speaker 2: World in ninety Yes, some confusion over what Starmer was

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Speaker 2: saying two point six or two point five. It equates

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Speaker 2: to another twenty seven billion New Zealand dollars a year,

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Speaker 2: which is a lot. Bank of Korea, by the ways,

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Speaker 2: moved cut from three to two point seventy five, so

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Speaker 2: their cash rates the lowest since August of twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: And you're very kind. Inquiring about Andrew. Andrew from Sport

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Speaker 2: is fine. Eleven past six.

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Speaker 2: Consumer confidence fallen again in America came in light so

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Speaker 2: it does growing concern about what Trump's doing to the economy.

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Speaker 2: Minds you. The cut from the Reserve Bank in Australia yesterday,

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Speaker 2: consumer confidence through the roof up four point seven percent yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and confidence among mortgage holders up ten point seven so

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Speaker 2: they're happy. Fourteen past six, Robalda am my Wealth. Andrew CALLA.

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Speaker 2: Have very good morning to you. You were the zante

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Speaker 2: there is oh good to hear now what happened yesterday

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Speaker 2: the z exec. How much red are we seeing?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, let's just pick up on that local market because

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Speaker 10: yesterday morning we spoke about the Ryman Capital rays. You

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Speaker 10: Now I'm going to get a little bit technical here, Mike.

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Speaker 10: We've got what's called the theoretical X right price. In

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Speaker 10: out where the price will settle afterwards. Now that was

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Speaker 10: three dollars nineteen and the share price has come back

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Speaker 10: much weaker than expected. Weakness really leaking through to the

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Speaker 10: broader market as well, into sext fifty having an ugly day,

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Speaker 10: fell two hundred and twenty four points is one point

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Speaker 10: seven nine percent fall That follows the previous day slump

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Speaker 10: as well as the study. Y're not looking good for

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Speaker 10: the new film share market selling a little bit indiscriminate yesterday.

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Speaker 10: Vulcan Steel down seven percent, THHL down six and a half,

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Speaker 10: Oceania in the sector of the Rymon five point seven

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Speaker 10: percent so for the month. Now, my Intexts fifty down

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Speaker 10: five point three two percent and over six percent down

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Speaker 10: for twenty twenty five the earning season so far, confirming

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Speaker 10: that twenty twenty four was a tough time to do business,

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Speaker 10: even though it should get better in twenty twenty twenty five. Mic,

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Speaker 10: what's really the hot topic now is the speed of recovery.

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Speaker 10: Howth clipping will.

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Speaker 11: We bounce back?

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Speaker 2: Okay, And then we come to THL. I was looking

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Speaker 2: for the good news we seem to for them did okay,

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Speaker 2: but some of the stuff in Australia didn't.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so it was always going to be a tough result.

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Speaker 10: Underlying net profit architects down thirty three percent. Look that

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Speaker 10: as a continue to recovering, this national tourism rental fleet

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Speaker 10: zeal Now, it's sort of global rental revenue growth eight percent.

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Speaker 10: sell their x rentals. So THHD does need to recycle assets,

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Speaker 10: so you buy them you're renting out and sell them

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Speaker 10: delay their recovery and ill provide goudplay from the terriff mike.

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Speaker 10: We always wonder how it's no impacting your companies and

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Speaker 10: the analyst call.

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Speaker 12: Years to know.

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Speaker 10: We saw an example of how you know they can

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Speaker 10: and cross border manufacturing implications of terist So the RV

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Speaker 13: They're made in the US.

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Speaker 11: They manufactured in the US. That's impacticed though terriff on

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Speaker 10: They make them and then they send them to Canada,

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Speaker 10: and now Canada is going to terrif them going into

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Speaker 2: Can I just can I just sorry? Can I just

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Speaker 2: interrupt you? Can you adjust your phone or get your

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Speaker 2: mouth closed to the mouthpiece or something.

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Speaker 11: I'll try that.

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Speaker 2: Failings, No, that's no good count count here. You put

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Speaker 2: in a second or two. If it's that's not a

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Speaker 2: touch screen, what is? There's something wrong with New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: The number, the amount of stuff that doesn't work in

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Speaker 2: regular lines. That line's gone down and that's broken, and

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Speaker 2: the phone doesn't work either. Anyway, a couple of quick results.

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Speaker 2: By the way, property for industry, and the reason I

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Speaker 2: tell you that the largest listed landlord specializing in industrial

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Speaker 2: that two point one billion dollars worth of real estate

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Speaker 2: they owned more than ninety property has got one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty tennuts they've enlisted since nineteen ninety four. That's

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Speaker 2: encouraging and something slightly eclectic. The the split ends painting

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Speaker 2: that we told you about the other day by Raymond

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Speaker 2: Turner that went for last night at Webb's. The auction

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Speaker 2: house estimated fifteen to twelve to twenty thousand dollars went

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Speaker 2: for ninety eight. So there's money. And anyway, how we going.

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Speaker 2: You're there.

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Speaker 10: I'm here, Mike, I've always been here.

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Speaker 2: God for that. Now, sorry, where were you.

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Speaker 10: We were talking about? We were just talking about the

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Speaker 10: fact that this terriff issue of Tom bringing tariffs and

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Speaker 10: it hits companies like HL because they're going to get stuck.

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Speaker 10: It's a cross border tariff wall between the US and

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Speaker 10: Canada because it basically list costs everywhere. So these tariffs

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Speaker 10: are creating uncertainty and they're going to hit in the

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Speaker 3: Do you know a girl called Katie Leonard? Yeah, describe

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Speaker 11: Then is she at?

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Speaker 12: Then?

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Speaker 3: Why would you ask her?

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Speaker 3: That's you're not really doing what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: Like one hundred percent agree. Really, the white Lighters thought

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Speaker 2: you might have mentioned it yesterday. Way too slow the season.

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Speaker 2: Just receive notification from Mercury Energy a price increases daily

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Speaker 2: an increase of two hundred nineteen dollars a year. Believe me,

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Speaker 2: we've got more on this after seven o'clock that there

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Speaker 2: from seven. Richard Arnold stateside, this whole musk e mail

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Speaker 2: update on that for you shortly meantime. Back here, solid

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Speaker 2: report from Port of Auckland. We've got rec will container

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Speaker 2: that's Roga. Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 12: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: How much of this is specifically you and what you've

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Speaker 12: It's a combination of both. There's been some one off

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Speaker 2: How do you do when you steer out your window

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Speaker 2: and you see all the coal arriving in the country.

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Speaker 2: Do you go that's good for business or do you

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Speaker 2: go we're not going to meet our Paris climate target?

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Speaker 3: Or it is what it is, Mike.

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Speaker 12: I see it as a partnership with Genesis, and really

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Speaker 2: It for as simple as that long term your twenty

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Speaker 2: is that going to happen or hopefully it will happen.

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Speaker 12: Well, we're in the fast track. We're one of four

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Speaker 2: Are you getting much pushback?

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Speaker 2: We also got an increase in full year expectations. Are

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Speaker 13: No.

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Speaker 12: So we're feeling very confident in our profit upgrade and

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Speaker 2: The city and you paid down a lot of debt.

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Speaker 12: Allows I have money the debt head, do the investment

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Speaker 12: that within our own borrowing capabilities.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and I'm reading about Northport. This will presumably in

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Speaker 12: We're quite relaxed about it. And you're probably aware that

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Speaker 12: we've agreed to sell our twenty percent of MMH if

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Speaker 2: Right And if the deal goes ahead, is that better

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Speaker 12: I think it. Continuing to rationalize and get the port

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Nice to talk to you as always, Roger

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Speaker 2: You're not sure what I'm talking about Northport, So Port

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Speaker 2: owned fifty percent of Northport. The latter would sell at

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Speaker 2: stake to the privatized Marsden, thus bringing ownership of Northport

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Speaker 2: under one structure five sixty mars and Maritime share. That's

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Speaker 2: a seventy three percent premium. The Regional Council lines forty

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Speaker 2: three percent port of Tower on the fifty percent to

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Speaker 2: only seven percent. That would end involvement of the ports

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Speaker 2: of Auckland. So that's what they're thinking at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the state shortly and Richard nineteen two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio power

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Speaker 1: it by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: B Morning might received a nine hundred dollars bill from

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Speaker 2: Mercury to at home, no heat is no pool queried.

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Speaker 2: It still made as pay turns out the meat readers

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Speaker 2: aren't turning up and they guess the usage. Not only

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Speaker 2: are their prices on the increase, but service very bad.

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Speaker 2: To be fair and not to defair Mercury any other

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Speaker 2: power company, that's quite common. Most of them are guestimates.

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Speaker 2: And the thing about it is that it all washes

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Speaker 2: through at some point when they do turn up and

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Speaker 2: read the meter. If they've been over guessing, you'll end

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Speaker 2: up getting a very small bill of not no bill

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Speaker 2: at all. I've been through that many many times, Mike.

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Speaker 2: If the number of one responsibility of a government is

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Speaker 2: to protect their citizens, then how come the Australian New

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Speaker 2: Zealand governments didn't know the Chinese warships were in the

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Speaker 2: Tasman Sea off Sydney until the Jetstar pilot told them.

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Speaker 2: I was watching Anthony alden Easy in a press conference yesterday.

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Speaker 2: He was asked the same question. To be fair to

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Speaker 2: us and them. It all got put out by the

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Speaker 2: Chinese at the same time. None of this excuses the

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Speaker 2: way the Chinese behaved, but they put it out on

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Speaker 2: an emergency radio channel. It went to the military, went

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Speaker 2: to the government, went to the airlines, all at the

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Speaker 2: same time. I think the report has just got a

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Speaker 2: little bit ahead of itself that Jetstar are owned at

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Speaker 2: Everyone got it at exactly the same moment.

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Speaker 16: Six forty five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance,

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Speaker 16: peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: So tard, good morning, hey Mike. So where are we

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Speaker 2: at with this email? People getting sacked here or not?

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Speaker 3: Chaos would be the word.

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Speaker 17: Twenty one federal government tech staffers have just resigned, saying

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Speaker 17: they are unwilling to help Elon Musk in his government chains,

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Speaker 17: all the slashing efforts whatever. These are engineers, data scientists,

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Speaker 17: project managers, many of whom held top posts at Google

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Speaker 17: and Amazon previously, but went into government when the US

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Speaker 17: was having problems with the rollout of health reforms a

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Speaker 17: few years back. Now they say they will not use

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Speaker 17: their expertise to dismantle critical public services. So this is

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Speaker 17: a rebellion from within. According to the staffers who were

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Speaker 17: hitting for the door, a lot of Musk supporters who

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Speaker 17: often wouldn't even give their names, so we're just sort

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Speaker 17: of wandering around anonymously with white House visitor badgers and

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Speaker 17: then would challenge government workers, many of whom had been

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Speaker 17: on a job for fifteen years on war and had

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Speaker 17: extensive backgrounds about their politics. Many of the questioners have

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Speaker 17: described as quote young and guided by their fandom of

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Speaker 17: Elon Musk. The staffers who were quitting had been working

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Speaker 17: for the government's digital services. They were brought into Elon

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Speaker 17: Musk's DOGE team, but say they just didn't want to

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Speaker 17: be any part of them. They write, quote, we will

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Speaker 17: not use our skills as technologists to compromise core government

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Speaker 17: systems end quote. Federal workers in many departments are totally confused,

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Speaker 17: as though what they had to do today is the

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Speaker 17: deadline is about to run out. Musks sent out a

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Speaker 17: second email saying he will give employees a second chance

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Speaker 17: to justify their jobs with you know the five bullet

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Speaker 17: points and emails intended.

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Speaker 18: For well who knows newly are intended for.

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Speaker 17: Failure to respond a second time, says Musk, will result

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Speaker 17: in termination. Some of the most high profile US government

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Speaker 17: departments are bucking the Musk moves. These are departments now

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Speaker 17: under Trump leads right, including Justice Department, FBI, State Department, Pentagon,

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Speaker 17: Department of Energy. They're telling their staff not to respond

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Speaker 17: to Musk's demands, but federal workers are being left in

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Speaker 17: limbo and say little workers are being done, and government

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Speaker 17: departments a bedlam. Trump was asked about all this mayhem

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Speaker 17: and calls Elon ingenious, asking the.

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Speaker 3: Question tell us what you did this week? What he's

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Speaker 3: doing is saying are you actually working?

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Speaker 19: And then if you don't answer, like you're sort of

518
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Speaker 19: semi fired or you're fired.

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Speaker 17: You might be semi fired semi fired. That wouldn't even

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Speaker 17: make a good reality TV Preppers. What it might you

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Speaker 17: your Yeah, clear as mud.

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Speaker 2: You got a little insight for the life of ROBERTA. Flack.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I have an original copy of ROBERTA. Flack's very

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Speaker 17: first album, recorded when she was a completely unknown and

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Speaker 17: before her legendary.

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Speaker 3: Hitsch first.

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Speaker 20: Ever.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, she had such a beautiful voice and innovate style

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Speaker 17: as everyone can hear. That's why her song takes have

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Speaker 17: become the classics that they have become.

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Speaker 3: With this thing.

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Speaker 14: Singing my life with this.

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Speaker 17: That's not the reason I have this original record album.

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Speaker 17: It was given to my late wife and me by

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Speaker 17: the person who discovered ROBERTA.

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Speaker 3: Flack.

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Speaker 17: She had trained as a classical penis and she was

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Speaker 17: playing at a teeny tiny venue when my friend Less

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Speaker 17: mccannn heard her. Less was a master of jazz fusion

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Speaker 17: back in the day, and he told his music industry

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Speaker 17: friends that they need to sign a contract with his

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Speaker 17: young unknown No way, they said, so Les said.

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Speaker 21: Got my tape recorder on my Max and set it

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Speaker 21: up and recorded it myself, and then we took tape.

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Speaker 2: They said, oh, is this what you were talking about?

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Speaker 2: Would changed our minds.

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Speaker 17: So they produced that first album called First Tape ROBERTA. Flack,

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Speaker 17: as presented by Les McCann, both of whom have passed

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Speaker 17: on now. But that's the story and for the seven

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Speaker 17: time Grammy winner, the rest is history.

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Speaker 2: Nisen, So well done, See you in a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Richard Allen steates, So, by the way, speaking of musk interesting,

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Speaker 2: what's happening to his car company? I raised it yesterday.

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Speaker 2: No one recalls more cows than Tesla. But Tesla sales

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Speaker 2: in Europe last month we're down forty five percent. The

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Speaker 2: EV market was up thirty seven, So the market's gone

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Speaker 2: up thirty seven. Tesla is tanked by forty five percent

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Speaker 2: in all of Europe. Half a billion people eleven Europe.

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Speaker 2: Last month they sold nine nine hundred and forty five Teslass.

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Speaker 2: Something's not right eleven away from seven, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities news togs

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Speaker 1: had been.

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Speaker 2: Mike, it's the under guessing and the big zinger. Yeah much,

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Speaker 2: your smart meters sort all that out, don't They are

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Speaker 2: quite liking the white loaders, Mike slow boone. But you know,

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Speaker 2: some major shit's about to go down. Lots of dodgy

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Speaker 2: characters this time. I thought, all the dodgy characters every time.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that the whole point? But by the way, Shane Jones,

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Speaker 2: who I'm generally a fan of, one of the big

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Speaker 2: wastes of time that got acquiesced to in the Coalition

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Speaker 2: deal was that they were going to wander off to

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Speaker 2: Marsden and this is this look goes back to the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister and you know about yesterday, but he goes

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Speaker 2: back to the Prime Minister who was on Kerry Show

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Speaker 2: last week. And I was driving home and I heard

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Speaker 2: him say, and that's why we're looking at rebuilding Marsden

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Speaker 2: Point and getting us a refiner. And I thought, is

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Speaker 2: that a thought bubble? You mate? Literally making this up

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Speaker 2: on the spot. Because, of course, obviously as part of

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Speaker 2: the coalition deal, New Zealand first were allowed to wander

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Speaker 2: off to Marsden Point to have a look at the

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Speaker 2: implications of reopening Marsden as a refinery. It was never

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Speaker 2: going to happen. It was going to be fascical, if

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Speaker 2: not fencible, if not both. And so the report came

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Speaker 2: out yesterday. It's about seven billion dollars. So guess what

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Speaker 2: we're not doing it. I could have written that report.

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Speaker 2: Whether I'd come up with seven six' five, eighteen it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Matter it was always going to be worth more than

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Speaker 2: we've actually, got so it was so it was a. Folly,

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Speaker 2: now my suggestion would be that when he said that

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Speaker 2: To kerry last, week he knew that. Report therefore he

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Speaker 2: knew the. Number therefore he knew what was going to.

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Speaker 2: Happen WHEN i had him on the program yesterday after

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Speaker 2: we got through The bailey business where, then if you,

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Speaker 2: REMEMBER i asked him About marsden and whether that was

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Speaker 2: a thought bubble or, not he went red in the.

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Speaker 2: FACE i don't know if you can see it on the,

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Speaker 2: video but go look at the video and he went

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Speaker 2: red in the, face AND i, thought you know, SOMETHING

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Speaker 2: i didn't have time to pursue. It even. Further BUT

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Speaker 2: i thought something's up here. Anyway so sure, enough Yesterday

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Speaker 2: shane releases the document that says it's seven billion. Dollars

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Speaker 2: it ain't. Happening so we're going to have these weird economic.

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Speaker 2: Zones and the problem with weird economic zones is you

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Speaker 2: Go northen's. Special it's. Different so you can have this

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Speaker 2: rule and that law there and you can do some special.

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Speaker 2: Business now what happens, Next, OH i don't. Know how

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Speaker 2: About nelson, goes, well we're we do a lot of,

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Speaker 2: seafood why can't we be a special economic? Zone and

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Speaker 2: Then canterbury will, go, well hold, on what about the

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Speaker 2: dairy industry in this part of why are we especially economic?

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Speaker 2: Zone before you know, it the whole country is an economic.

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Speaker 2: Zone so what the hell's going? On five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven the in and the.

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Speaker 1: Ouse it's the fears with business favor take your business

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Speaker 1: productivity to the next, level and then you.

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Speaker 2: Get to This trump tariff. Nonsense so everyone's trying to

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Speaker 2: work out what the tariff means to, them whether you

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Speaker 2: pass it, on whether it's. Inflationary, well this, morning the

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Speaker 2: trade group representing the restaurant, industry which is quite large

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Speaker 2: industry In, america given the size of. Them they've got a.

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Speaker 2: Number they've employed independent analysts and they found that the

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Speaker 2: tariffs could hit restaurant owners across the country to the

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Speaker 2: tune of twelve billion. Dollars so it's the old. Argument

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Speaker 2: they would have no choice but to increase the prices

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Speaker 2: once the supplies when you buy your tomatoes from the

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Speaker 2: tomato grow, Goes oh my tomatoes is more, expensive so

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Speaker 2: then you pass that cost on to know how it.

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Speaker 2: Goes so on average they only have a three to

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Speaker 2: five percent profit. Margin and on top of, that the

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Speaker 2: analysts say the number of customers would drop off considerably

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Speaker 2: because of course suddenly you can't afford your tomatoes. Anymore

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Speaker 2: so that's how that. Goes they had a number for

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Speaker 2: cars the other. Day they reckon about six and a

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Speaker 2: half thousand dollars on a. CAR i Think ford said

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Speaker 2: that that your car becomes more expensive to the pune

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Speaker 2: of about six and a half thousand dollars because of

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Speaker 2: the aluminium and. Steel, anyway let them deal with it another.

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Speaker 2: Day so, crime violent crime is. Down this is. GOOD

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Speaker 2: i also raised with The Prome minister yesterday at the

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Speaker 2: very start of the interview before it went. Weird The,

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Speaker 2: chambers The Police. Commissi he looked, really really bullish at

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Speaker 2: a press conference a couple of days. Ago he looks

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Speaker 2: like he's reveling in the freedom that the police are

645
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Speaker 2: allowed to actually go out and round up a few.

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Speaker 2: Crooks it turns out today the announcement's, coming we're going

647
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Speaker 2: to be able to do that. Too we're going to

648
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Speaker 2: be able to do some citizens. Arrests so when we

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Speaker 2: see some, people you, know you're down at the mall

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Speaker 2: on A, saturday you're going to the shop and you,

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Speaker 2: go hold, On i'm going to arrest. Him, now how

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Speaker 2: do you think that's going to? Work and can you

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Speaker 2: still arrest people in a special economic zone or do

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Speaker 2: those rules not? Apply see the questions i'm raising. Here

655
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Speaker 2: so The Justice Minister Paul goldsmith on the program after The,

656
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Speaker 2: news and then we'll get the take Of Stuart nash

657
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Speaker 2: after seven thirty this, morning before we Get mark And

658
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Speaker 2: jinny on the program after eight With Politics. Wednesday you'd

659
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: be an idiot to turn off the. Radio now the

660
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Speaker 2: news is.

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Speaker 12: Next.

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Speaker 3: The only report you need to start your.

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Speaker 1: Day The Mi Costing breakfast with The Range Rover villa

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Speaker 1: designed to intrigue and use.

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Speaker 3: Togs dead by.

666
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Speaker 2: Seven past seven third appears to be. Working when you

667
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Speaker 2: cracked on, crime you get. Results for the first time

668
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: since twenty, eighteen violent crime has. Dropped Police starter shows

669
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Speaker 2: a two percent drop last. Year, also there were twenty

670
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Speaker 2: four thousand fewer people in need of help in the

671
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Speaker 2: Latest crime And victims. Survey Justice Minister Paul goldsmith with

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Speaker 2: us good, Morning good. MORNING i was watching the press

673
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: conference with you and The Prime minister Of Mark mitchell

674
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Speaker 2: and The Police commissioner the other. Day The Police commissioner

675
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: seems to be reveling in these new rules you've given,

676
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Speaker 2: them and the stats on violent crime seem to show

677
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: that it's working.

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00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 18: Well, yes it's all about giving the police extra tools

679
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 18: to deal with. Gangs if you're our standing point is

680
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Speaker 18: if you want to reduce the number of victims of

681
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 18: serious vinl, crime obvious place to start as the ones

682
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Speaker 18: who are causing most of the mating small group Of

683
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Speaker 18: New zealanders and the gangs are creating a significant proportion

684
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 18: of the serious violent. Crime and so we've bring them

685
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 18: the extra tools that they need to make life very

686
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Speaker 18: difficult for.

687
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Speaker 10: Them and it's working.

688
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: Well, Yeah he.

689
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: Also seemed to suggest that he wanted more, rules more.

690
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: Freedom is he getting them or going to get?

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Speaker 18: Them, well, LOOK i mean we're always we've got a

692
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 18: lot of leagiers to the work that we're working our

693
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Speaker 18: way through around the sentencing phrase of regime so that you,

694
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 18: know we've got real consequences for. Crime the three strikes

695
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 18: laws a part of. That and, yes we're always looking

696
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 18: at different ways in which we can help with the

697
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 18: with the effort to connect people with. Responsibility, ultimately what

698
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 18: people want to see is they might be safe in

699
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 18: their communities and they want to see people help to

700
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 18: account when they're breaking the.

701
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: Law and of course the other thing that came out

702
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Speaker 2: of that press conference the other day is he was

703
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Speaker 2: Suggesting chambers was suggesting that people and the feedback he's,

704
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: getting are you getting it as? Well people feel, safer.

705
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Speaker 18: Yes BUT i, mean obviously we were all conscious that

706
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 18: there's a long way to. Go things got badly out of.

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Speaker 18: Control but you, KNOW i MEAN i was down In

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Speaker 18: napier a couple of weeks ago when people were, saying you,

709
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Speaker 18: know it was actually quite striking and not seeing the

710
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 18: gang patches.

711
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 21: Everywhere you go down to the local.

712
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Speaker 18: Barbecue in the, past the place would be overrun with gang,

713
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 18: patches everybody would. Leave that wasn't happening the, summer and

714
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Speaker 18: so we want to keep that. Going it's been a

715
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 18: great effort so, far but there's a lot more to.

716
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Speaker 2: Do and then on retail, CRIME i note some criticism

717
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: this morning From Ginny anderson on this group that you

718
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: set up a while, ago And Sunny kocher's earning a

719
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Speaker 2: lot of money and there's not a single. Recommendation does

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Speaker 2: that change? Today?

721
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Speaker 18: Yes, yes they're working very hard that, group and they're

722
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Speaker 18: giving us some recommendations in that retail crime, space which

723
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Speaker 18: will be announced lad. DAY i see The herald's got

724
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Speaker 18: a bit of a sniff of, that and it's fundamentally

725
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 18: around looking at those issues of how do particularly retailers

726
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Speaker 18: deal with people just walking out with stuff and not.

727
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Speaker 18: Paying AND i think everybody's been conscious that is happening

728
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 18: more and, more and we've got to have a bitter

729
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 18: response at the.

730
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Speaker 2: Moment so IF i see somebody walking out with, something

731
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Speaker 2: CAN i arrest them now or WILL i be able

732
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Speaker 2: to arrest?

733
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Speaker 13: Them, well we'll give you the details coming.

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Speaker 18: Up but, LOOK i mean that there's an obvious tension

735
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Speaker 18: between we don't want to create the Wild west and

736
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 18: vigil atheism and. Chaos but at the other end of the,

737
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Speaker 18: spectrum the situation that you've got now people walking out

738
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Speaker 18: for supermarkets trolleys surrounded by staff talking at them all

739
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 18: the way to the, car getting in the car and

740
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 18: driving off and nothing. Happening it just doesn't work because

741
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 18: people are getting the idea that you don't actually have

742
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 18: to pay for, stuff and the reality is that everybody

743
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 18: else has to pay for your stolen. Stuff and it's

744
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 18: undermining our sense of the rule of. Law so we've

745
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 18: got to come up with a better, solution and we're

746
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 18: going to come up with some proposals.

747
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Speaker 11: Today.

748
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Speaker 2: Fantastic the security guards need the. Power are they going

749
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Speaker 2: to get the?

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Speaker 18: Power, well that's what we'll be announcing mad. Today but,

751
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 18: yes we're going to make it clearer and a bit

752
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 18: easier for people to look after their property and to

753
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 18: restore a law and order to our communities in our retail.

754
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: Sector appreciate time justice mians The Paul Goldsmith mike the

755
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: reduction of violent crime sounds like runs on the board

756
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: for the. GOVERNMENT i tend to agree with. That eleven

757
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: past Seven Johnny koscher at nine hundred and ten dollars a.

758
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Speaker 2: DAY i don't begrudge them that those are the, rules

759
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: the rules of the. Rules but WHAT i do side

760
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Speaker 2: With ginny on to a degree is that committee didn't

761
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: need to be set up because all the recommendations are

762
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: going to put forward that will be announced. Today they

763
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: had right from the. Start it's the obvious stuff that

764
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Speaker 2: a government should be. Doing it a stroke of a pen,

765
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: anyway more With ginny And mark after. Right of, course

766
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: now the report on Getting Marsden point back up and

767
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Speaker 2: running as a refiner returned out to be the waste of.

768
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Speaker 2: Time you thought it would give them the bills billions

769
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Speaker 2: and we don't have. It but the idea now being

770
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Speaker 2: float is special economic, zones essentially an area with its

771
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Speaker 2: own business and trade. Laws Channel infrastructure Cy Rob buchanan's

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Speaker 2: with us on, This, rob wanting.

773
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Speaker 11: To, you good, Body.

774
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Speaker 2: Mike we could have told, everybody couldn't we that recharging

775
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: the refinery was going to cost a small. Fortune we

776
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: weren't going to do. It was this a complete waste of.

777
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 20: Time, look we've been saying some time that obviously with

778
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Speaker 20: the refinery having been switched off in twenty twenty two

779
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Speaker 20: and fully decommissioned at the start of last year that

780
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Speaker 20: it would cost billions of dollars to restart. It so,

781
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Speaker 20: yes this report that's come out today is just a

782
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Speaker 20: reflection of what we've been, saying.

783
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 2: And what's a special zone and how would it? Work

784
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Speaker 2: and once you get, one why CAN'T i have?

785
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 11: One, well, look.

786
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Speaker 20: Let's separate two issues. Here so last year we released

787
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Speaker 20: the market our plans for a energy precinct At Marsden,

788
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Speaker 20: point which is a repurposing of a lot of the

789
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Speaker 20: infrastructure that we have there that has. Capacity there's a

790
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 20: significant number of projects that we're working on for that

791
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 20: energy precinct and some work we've done BY PwC would

792
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Speaker 20: suggest that that could GENERATE gdp of around three point

793
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Speaker 20: three billion are fully realized with around twenty thousand jobs

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Speaker 20: over a fifteen year construction. Phase so really exciting project for.

795
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Speaker 20: Us and, look, one we're really pleased with the announcements

796
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Speaker 20: made yesterday that the government's seen as well and is

797
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Speaker 20: looking to get behind. US i think from our, perspective

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Speaker 20: one of the benefits of effectively the government's endorsement of

799
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Speaker 20: what we're doing is we're working with some fairly large international.

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Speaker 20: Partners one of our, projects which is a biofuels refinery,

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Speaker 20: project we're working With Fontas, renova Who's japanese renewable energy,

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Speaker 20: Company Kent International infrastructure services, company and they like to

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Speaker 20: know that they're working with parties or companies that have

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Speaker 20: the backing of the government in what they're. Doing SO

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Speaker 20: i think that endorsement's helpful for.

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Speaker 11: Us.

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Speaker 2: Good if you built, it will they come because that's

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Speaker 2: resource rich what you're talking, about isn't.

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Speaker 20: It, Yeah, well, LOOK i think these projects take quite

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Speaker 20: a long time to bring to, gestation but to show

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Speaker 20: you that we're people of. Action last year we announced

812
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 20: sixty million dollars worth of new growth projects and what

813
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Speaker 20: was quite obviously a difficult economic. Environment so one of

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Speaker 20: those we're cracking on with at the. Moment we're Building

815
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Speaker 20: New zealand's largest what will Be New zealand's largest debt

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Speaker 20: tank and partnership with their, energy and we are partnering

817
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Speaker 20: With higgins to build a bitul an import terminal facility

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Speaker 20: At Marsden, point which, obviously given all the roading that's

819
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Speaker 20: projected to go At, northland is. Fantastic so these are

820
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Speaker 20: things we're just getting on.

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Speaker 6: With.

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Speaker 2: Now you're liking The northport. Thing if it comes to,

823
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Speaker 2: pass does that affect you majorly or?

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Speaker 16: Not?

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Speaker 12: Really not.

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Speaker 20: Really there are neighbors over the. Fence they're very good

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Speaker 20: neighbors of, ours and obviously what's good.

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Speaker 12: For them is good for.

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Speaker 11: Us good.

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Speaker 2: Stuff rob appreciate it very. Much probably don't hold parties

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Speaker 2: and keep you up at night as. Well so it's

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Speaker 2: good to have good, neighbors isn't, It Rob, bucannon who's

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Speaker 2: out of a channel infrastructure in the northern part of the,

834
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Speaker 2: Country sky might have trouble now that The zone is

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Speaker 2: sniffing the. Rugby more on this in a moment fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: AT b actually speaking of. Business lovely story out of

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Speaker 2: involving tech seventeen past. Seven things holting up in. Sports

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Speaker 2: Seemingly SKY tb and their exclusive rugby rights are potentially

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Speaker 2: facing a raid from The english based streaming up fits

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Speaker 2: The zone and You Seeland rugby still sorting the. Deal

844
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: at the, moment we Think sky's got eighty five million

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Speaker 2: on the table for That Duco events found To David

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Speaker 2: higgins as with, Us, david, morning good mor, mate your,

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Speaker 2: mum well thank. You your experience With dezone and The

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Speaker 2: saudi experience in boxing is what you speak well of?

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Speaker 11: Them, yes, well, hey they're, quick they pay their bills

850
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 11: and the quality of productions.

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00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: Good would they be interested in rugby given it's not

852
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: truly global and boxing is, well they're.

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00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 11: Interested in the, screen so they Bought FOX i think In,

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00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 11: australia and if they did take an interest in his ZeLing,

855
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 11: rugby they pick up past the country or a third,

856
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 11: quickly so you would think they'd be.

857
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: Interested so do you think that's a good move in

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00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: THIS i was going to ask you about. That DO

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Speaker 2: i buy De zone as a single? OPERATOR i don't

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Speaker 2: know what else they, Offer maybe they offer NOTHING i

861
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: want to. Watch but DO i give them money just

862
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: to watch rugby as opposed To sky which offers me

863
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of.

864
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 11: Stuff it's a very good, Question, mike would.

865
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Speaker 2: You, well, yes BUT i can afford to a lot of,

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Speaker 2: people CAN'T.

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Speaker 11: I think the? Product, YEAH i think a lot of

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Speaker 11: you would, initially but they'd have to get it. Right

869
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Speaker 11: and it's the whole package around, it like the players

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Speaker 11: have to be interesting stars not, robots you, know and

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Speaker 11: and there's a lot more to. It BUT i think

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Speaker 11: it's a genuine.

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Speaker 2: Thing would it Sink? Sky?

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Speaker 11: Mmmuh sky is listed on the In New 's So,

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Speaker 11: exchange so it's good For New zealand in terms of

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Speaker 11: employment and Tax The sky get. It so there's nothing Against,

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Speaker 11: Sky but hell, YES i think it. Would it would

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Speaker 11: massively Damage sky if that.

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Speaker 2: Happened, exactly were a good? Catch it. Wasn't Isn't joe? Lovely,

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Speaker 2: god he's. LOVELY i was watching him at the airport

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00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: yesterday and it's just he's such a nice, guy isn't.

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00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 11: HE i, agree there's a difference between big humble and

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Speaker 11: pretending to be, humble and he generally treats and equally

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Speaker 11: and his Lovely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly all, right good to talk to, you, Mate appreciate.

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00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: It David Tagan's Duco events. FOUNDER i don't know how

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Speaker 2: Nervous sky is going to.

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Speaker 14: Be would you?

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Speaker 2: PAY i mean that is the question is as a,

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Speaker 2: punter you now have to buy yet another streaming service

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Speaker 2: to watch The All? Blacks would you do? It and

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Speaker 2: surely the. Ends are you take that into account when you're.

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Speaker 22: LIKE i, MEAN i know lots of people who cancel

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Speaker 22: their Sky sports subscriptions every summer and then only get

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Speaker 22: it back on. It that's the same same, thing isn't?

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Speaker 14: It and are you going to do? That then they'll

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Speaker 14: just go and do.

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Speaker 2: THAT i guess it. Is, mike with your, size the

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Speaker 2: only person you're arresting is a five year. Old i'm

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Speaker 2: for another winter of shonky power. Supply deal's been done

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Speaker 2: again with T. Y they announced yesterday to cut. Production

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00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: oh the irony in a country that's supposed to be

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Speaker 2: focused on, growth, growth, growth and mercury is the bearer

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00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: of the glad tidings that the power price is heading

926
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: north by an average of ten. Percent why because we

927
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: don't make enough. Power we are hopelessly reliant on. Rain

928
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: we stop looking for royal and. Gas we didn't get

929
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: enough windmills and solar panels, up so we're short, short

930
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: last year short the year. Before spot price currently about

931
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 2: two hundred, bucks not the eight hundred it was for

932
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: a time last, year but well north of what it should.

933
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: Be yet again the years started, dry but in a

934
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Speaker 2: reassuring sign of expertise and meteorological, minutia the power company

935
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: said there's still plenty of time for it to. Rain

936
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: so that's. Okay, then isn't it a cost plus? Accounting

937
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: obviously not confined to. Councils power companies do it as.

938
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: Well we think about. It we are paying for the,

939
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 2: windmills whether we want them or. Not see a lot

940
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: of the renewable investment is not about it solving the,

941
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: problem because it doesn't, automatically not in a, sensible cost effective.

942
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: Way what a lot of it is about is wokeness

943
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: being seen to be part of The paris, crowd the

944
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: same way the BN z likes to haunt petrol. Stations

945
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: power companies like to gouge us for their green. Credentials like.

946
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: Banks there's an argument we're not well served by these

947
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: big gen retailers or gen, tailors, who in simple, terms

948
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 2: are not doing their. Job what is their? Job, MIKE

949
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: i hear you, ask, well? Power is there enough?

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00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 11: Power? Mike?

951
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: No was there last?

952
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 13: Year?

953
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: No is it good? Enough and twenty twenty five in

954
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: the country economically on its, knees looking for, growth, growth, Growth,

955
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: no asking Like New zealand cricket giving rights to Spark

956
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: New Zealand rugby going for the money will damage The

957
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 2: sport's very good. Point, actually the cricket, EXPERIMENT i think

958
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: we can all agree was a complete and app absolute wasted,

959
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: time wasn't? It AND tv And zid's got it, back

960
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: and Then sky got it and Then Sky mike give

961
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: it TO tv And. Z's it's also the other thing you,

962
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 2: remember it's all too confusing for. People part of marketing

963
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: and branding is knowing where stuff. Is you know WHERE

964
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: i am every, morning, RIGHT i turn up every, day

965
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: and you know WHERE i. Am IF i suddenly popped

966
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: up somewhere else, tomorrow you, go what happened, To, mike

967
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: you'd be confused and you've got churn on audience, there

968
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: and you don't want, That. Mike some of the last

969
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: government should be charged with treason on what they did

970
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: with the refinery water. Waste, Paul yes and, no this

971
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: is not leveled criticism at the previous. Government where the

972
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: previous government went wrong as they were So marsden was

973
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: a private. Company they made as a private company that.

974
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: Decision they're allowed to make that. Decision what the government

975
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: should have done if they had a brain or understood

976
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: anything outside where the nearest library at the university was

977
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: or where the nearest union office, was in other, words

978
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: that they lived in the real, world they would have, gone,

979
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: well hold on, here what are the. Implications what the

980
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: petrol company said to them at the time, was don't

981
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: worry about. It just being an importer of stuff is

982
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: really cool for supply refining our own. Stuff you don't

983
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: need to be doing any of that stuff because we

984
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: can just bring it all. In and of course what

985
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: we've seen brought in is of course tainted jet fuel

986
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: several times, over and the fact that we are reliant

987
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: on the supply chains and ships coming to the. Country

988
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 2: but don't worry about any of you that just lets

989
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: fill the pipes with. Concrete so in that, sense the

990
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: government you can blame because they weren't up to. Much

991
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: but then that's not the first time we've said. That

992
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: mike specially economic zones for building not general, business Like

993
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: india did with the refinery at the bottom of their,

994
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 2: country Or Sri lanka did with the back to back

995
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: to backport and, airport And china building zen for. Tech

996
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: very good insight appreciate that. Right citizens. Arrest we are

997
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: going to go out and do one of those. Today

998
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: Once Paul goldsmith makes his, announcement we'll talk To Stuart

999
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: nash on this.

1000
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: Shortly New zealand's voice of reason Is mike The mic

1001
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: asking breakfast With bailey's real estate finding the buyers others

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00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: can't use TOGS, dB.

1003
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: Mike, Winston peters And. Beijing whatever anyone might say about

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00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: him or against, him he's doing a brilliant job as

1005
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: a foreign. Minister, Matt i'm assuming that's the. CASE i,

1006
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: mean just because you turn up places doesn't mean you're

1007
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: a brilliant foreign. Minister but he's certainly moving about the

1008
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: place a great deal more than he than his, Predecessor

1009
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: Mirk Mitchell Ginny. Andsen by the, Way Politics wednesday after

1010
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: eight twenty three minutes away from eight, now the rules

1011
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: around making a citizen arrest look said to be loosen

1012
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: the retail crime. Deal we talked To Paul goldsmith about

1013
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: his officially being announced later on. Today as it, stands security,

1014
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: guard shop, workers the, public et. Cetera can only make

1015
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: a citizens arrest in two instances and a. Bit you

1016
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: didn't know this is the stupidest rules going and item

1017
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: has been stolen that's worth more than a thousand, dollars

1018
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: or an incidence has taken place overnight between the hours

1019
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: of nine pm and six. Am, anyway the form Of

1020
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: Police Minister Stuart nash is with us on this very

1021
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: good morning to you.

1022
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 13: Very.

1023
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: Well, indeed the broad, IDEA i, mean first of all

1024
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 2: those numbers that we got this, morning the two percent

1025
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 2: decrease in violent, crime would you, concede despite your political,

1026
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: background that some of what this government is doing actually

1027
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: might be.

1028
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 13: Working it could be. Society keeping in, Mind, MIKE i

1029
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 13: was a police minister's increased police numbers by eighteen. Hundreds

1030
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 13: got to throw that in.

1031
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: There, yeah good, Only but the numbers are coming, down

1032
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: numbers or, not the stats are the, stats and a

1033
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: violent crimes coming, down that's a, win isn't.

1034
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 13: It it's fantastic with iblant crime coming. Down but what

1035
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 13: we're talking about was the citizen's arrest is retail crimes

1036
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 13: going up by about twelve, percent and you've got these

1037
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 13: keyweks who are working really bloody hard to make ends,

1038
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 13: meet often not making that much money because qu'es are

1039
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 13: spending a whole lot of money online and team and

1040
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 13: then these miscrints coming in and stealing from, them and

1041
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 13: they'd have the ability to do. Anything that's.

1042
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: Crazy do you think did you ever look at, it

1043
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: by the way citizens arrest as police?

1044
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 13: MINISTER i don't think we, did AND i was resting

1045
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 13: my brain to think why we wouldn't. Have you've got

1046
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 13: a situation right where if you steal, stuff which is you,

1047
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 13: know obviously you sing something ever us to, does it's pretty.

1048
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 13: Serious could just shop of, them then the cost of

1049
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 13: prosecuting someone is substantial competed to the crime it's been.

1050
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 13: Committed but what you've ended up with is in a

1051
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 13: really terrible situation where these guys just get away with.

1052
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 13: It so what we were seriously looking at is some

1053
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 13: form of fine or something along those, lines which was

1054
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 13: proportionate with a citizens. Arrest though, yeah you, Know i'm a,

1055
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 13: fan there's no doubt about, that but it's got to be,

1056
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 13: proportionate you. Know we don't want to get to a

1057
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 13: stage we have big tup guys like yourself are using

1058
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 13: this to beat the crap cut.

1059
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: Someone that's exactly. Right last VIDEO i watched was a,

1060
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: guy there were two of, them but he was. Massive

1061
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: he was a HUGE i mean he would have been

1062
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty kg's and he had under one

1063
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: army had a slab of beer and under the other

1064
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: he had literally a side of whatever pork. Beef and

1065
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 2: he walked out of the shop past the security. Guard

1066
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: would a security guard if they had the right take

1067
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 2: a guy that size.

1068
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 13: On probably not unless he had some form of martial arts.

1069
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 13: Train so that this is the. Thing so people have

1070
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 13: got to put their own safety serious AND i don't

1071
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 13: think there'll be an employer who would disagree with. That

1072
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 13: so you, know there might be an instant with security

1073
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 13: guard challenges this. Guy but if in the end he feels,

1074
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 13: that you, know it's going to be a hell of

1075
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 13: en list of his life of, limb then, Know but

1076
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 13: what you do do is you make sure that you

1077
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 13: got the the cameras to place and you call the.

1078
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 13: Cops the other situation we find themselves in the course

1079
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 13: is that you, know if someone's shoplifting or you, know

1080
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 13: we've all seen And i've seen, this someone's pushing a

1081
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 13: trolley and boad groceries out of the, Supermarket well what

1082
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 13: do you? Do you don't dial one one, One you

1083
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 13: can't deal triple five because the you, know and the

1084
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 13: police are often too, busy you, know going after the

1085
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 13: really bad, guys and so people get a way scott.

1086
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 13: Free being able to make systems a resc in this

1087
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 13: case and hold the person to the police and, UP

1088
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 13: i think is just a pragmatic.

1089
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: Move i'm very supportivele, Okay so so put your hat

1090
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: back on if you were still, minister because the obvious

1091
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: question is are what level of force do you sit on?

1092
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: Them do three people sit on them when the guy,

1093
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: goes oh my arm is, breaking do you still hold him?

1094
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: Down and then are there repercussions down the track for

1095
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: people getting a bit carried?

1096
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 13: Away, well let's flip that. Around what you can't have

1097
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 13: is a situation where well at the, moment where people

1098
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 13: can't protect themselves right or they can't stop some of

1099
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 13: them stealing the. Property it has got to be. Proportionate

1100
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 13: and because it is a change to The Crimes, act

1101
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 13: it's going to go Through Select committee and the sort

1102
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 13: of in the full parliamentary, process so no doubt they

1103
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 13: will come up with some with some measure.

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00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 12: There but it is a good.

1105
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 13: POINT i, suspect you know again you're not going to

1106
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 13: be able to pull out a baseball back for guy

1107
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 13: because he stole a segrets or. Something but what you've

1108
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 13: got to be able to do or got to be

1109
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 13: allowed to do is used for poor force depending on the.

1110
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 13: Circumstance so you, know at the moment dairy owners And

1111
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 13: Senny kushis talks about this until blue of, faith they

1112
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 13: can't do anything for fear of being. Prosecuted if they

1113
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 13: do bring it a baseball batt, o'clock someone when they're

1114
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 13: protecting themselves will get. Stock you've got to give these

1115
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 13: guys cover to use proportionate force given the. Circumstance so

1116
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 13: you know you wouldn't do that if someone's will trying

1117
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 13: to load out the crocers out of the supermake but

1118
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 13: you might be coming with a capital of knives and

1119
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 13: that we've gotten for you will have gone to the

1120
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 13: smoke's cabinet behind the. Counter SO i think it'll be

1121
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 13: proportionate to the circumstances of. Play, selman good to have

1122
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 13: you on the.

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Speaker 2: Program Stuart, nash former police. Minister he mentions t eighteen

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Speaker 2: minutes away from eight tasking economic data this morning From

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Speaker 2: New zealand posts e commerce data we're shopping a little

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00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: bit more, online but we're shopping disproportionately at the t

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00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: MoU and shines or. Machines five percent increase in spending

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00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: IN q, four but a twenty three percent increase in offshore.

1129
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 2: Retailers so once again we're getting down to the business

1130
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: of domestic retailers missing, out and they're, saying, well you

1131
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: should look. Domestically i'm a big fan of domestic spending

1132
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: as opposed to international spending in. General AND i know

1133
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 2: what you're going to, say but it's much cheaper. ONLINE

1134
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 2: i know what's On Timuin shine Or, sheen and it's.

1135
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 2: Crap it's straight up and, down badly, made throw it

1136
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: in the burd after a short period of. Time. Crap

1137
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: but we seem to be in this. Mentality average, spend

1138
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: by the, way ninety five, dollars which is down four.

1139
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: Dollars but we seem to be in this mindset that

1140
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: cheap as everything doesn't matter how long it, lasts doesn't

1141
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: matter whether it was made by a slave or a

1142
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: twelve year old or a three year old In. China

1143
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: as long as it's, cheap it's good enough for. Us

1144
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: And i'm not sure that's a great. Attitude seventeen to.

1145
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: Two The Mike Asking Breakfast Full show podcast On iHeartRadio

1146
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,439
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Speaker 2: Me Victoria mike as An Australian Crimes, Act section four

1148
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: fifty eight allows anyone to arrest anyone they find committing any. Offense,

1149
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: WELL i ask IF i, Remember i'll Ask Theeve price about,

1150
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 2: that because he's on the program later on this. MORNING i,

1151
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: know what a great deal of. Interest there's a small

1152
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 2: quandary in my life at the, moment not a huge,

1153
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: quandary just a small. One but the last stretch of

1154
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 2: metal road in the state highway network is currently being tar.

1155
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: Sealed it's twelve kilometers of tar. Seal this is forty

1156
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: Three State highway forty Three East. Taranaki this is The

1157
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 2: Forgotten World. Highway it connects Tam renui To, stratford and

1158
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: the very last piece of the highway network is being tar,

1159
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: sealed WHICH i suppose is good because you, know most

1160
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: people don't LIKE tarsi BUT i live on a road

1161
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: which is not tar. Sealed and THEN i leave my

1162
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: little road AND i go on to another road which

1163
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: is not tar sealed, either but it's about to be

1164
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: and there. Is apparently we've only been there six, years

1165
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: but before that there's been a thing for, many many

1166
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 2: years in which submissions have been made to the council

1167
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 2: that this particular road should be tar sealed because it's.

1168
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: Ridiculous there are far too many cars on the road

1169
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: these days and you can't have. It AND i find

1170
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: myself in a weird. Way SO i should be celebrating.

1171
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 2: PROGRESS i should be, going, oh thank, goodness The shingle's

1172
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: going and the Tars seel's. Coming and Yet i'm sad

1173
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: because there's something about a shingle road that it indicates

1174
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: you are in the, country isn't. There so we turn

1175
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 2: off the main highway onto The shingle road and you, think,

1176
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 2: Yep i've. ARRIVED i am. Arriving and THEN i go

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00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: down That shingle road for a couple of ka's and

1178
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: THEN i turn off into our lit the, road which

1179
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 2: is also. SHINGLE i got my drive which is equally,

1180
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: Shingle and THEN i had the problem is if they

1181
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: shingle the road that goes to my, place if they

1182
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: tarsal rather the road that goes to my, place DO

1183
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: i then tar seal my? Driveway because of, course one

1184
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: of the downsides of shingle, is of course your car gets,

1185
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: filthy and who wants a filthy Ca and next thing you,

1186
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: know you're buying a foam cannon to clean your car a.

1187
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: Lot so DO i then seal my. Driveway but in

1188
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: sealing my, DRIVEWAY i essentially am part of the city

1189
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: And i'm no longer part of the, country because part

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00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: of the country is the dust that rises on a,

1191
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,959
Speaker 2: long hot sum as you power down the shingle road

1192
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 2: and see the dust blooming up in the background behind

1193
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: your car and dropping down all over, it making it

1194
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: a dusty country. Vehicle and there's something reassuring and Very

1195
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: New zealand about a dusty country, vehicle don't.

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00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 22: You that sounds about like governments subsidizing mills to stay.

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00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 22: Open you want the shingle roads to. Stay you can

1198
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 22: stay and work as a car. Washer is that what's

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Speaker 22: going on?

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00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: Here, no you missed the point completely. THERE i was

1201
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: just down Memory, lane and my memory lane isn't tar.

1202
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 2: Sealed Eleven away from eight.

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00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with The Range Rover Villa news

1204
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: Togs head been away.

1205
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: From Robotic plus is a kiwik company DEVELOPING ai powered autonomous.

1206
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 2: Vehicles it's being brought out By Yamaha. Motors no, less

1207
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: these are orchard specific machines that peck and spray and

1208
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: prune and stuff. Anywhere Robotic plus founder AND Ceo Steve

1209
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: saunders is with A Steve, Morning, Morning, mike are you very?

1210
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 2: Well thank? You was this the dream to start something

1211
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: small and have somebody big come along and watch you

1212
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: a nice?

1213
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 23: Check it's more purpose, Driven, mike about you, know solving

1214
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 23: solving you, know a global issue and you, know we

1215
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 23: really wanted to show that we could develop tech In

1216
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 23: New zealand that was got globally relevant and scalable and

1217
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 23: so you, know it is it. Is it's part of

1218
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 23: a vision and it grows on to be a bigger.

1219
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: Vision what happens to you? Now do you stay with

1220
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: that broader company or help them out or go onto

1221
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: something completely?

1222
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 13: Different, No i'm staying on for a.

1223
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 23: WHILE i, mean you, know yesterday was was was the

1224
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 23: announcement of that acquisition Of Robotics, plus but it was

1225
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 23: also the announcement Of Yamaha, agriculture and it's sort of

1226
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 23: like we're you, know the excitement now is you, know

1227
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 23: how do we take robotics pluses at the heart of

1228
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 23: m agriculture strategy and now it's on to grow even

1229
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 23: larger ag tech company Via Yamaha. Agriculture so some exciting

1230
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 23: times ahead for.

1231
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: Us where does THE ai differentiate from the, Robotics Because

1232
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: i've seen robotics when you're going up and down a

1233
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: row or, whatever you can be. Robotic what does THE

1234
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 2: ai do to enhance that?

1235
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 23: Process it's really it's it's really how it sensors where

1236
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 23: it is in the. Environment so you, know you can

1237
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 23: do robotics by training training the machine to drive up

1238
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 23: and down the. Road this this machine drives, intelligently so

1239
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 23: it recognizes its environment and can you, know work its

1240
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 23: way through through all sorts of various. Situations and it

1241
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 23: also through the sensors we're collecting. Data we're doing a

1242
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 23: whole lot of a lot of other. Things so real

1243
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 23: time sensing.

1244
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: That log scrapy you've, got which is a similar Tech i'm,

1245
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: assuming but a completely different looking. Machine is it? Broader

1246
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: you can take the basics of what this thing does

1247
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: and turn it into any sort of machine or.

1248
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 21: Not, YEAH i think you know what.

1249
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 23: We've really developed as robotics plus is just a lot

1250
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 23: of really smart technology, around you, know machine learning and

1251
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 23: vision systems and so you, know it's just how you

1252
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,479
Speaker 23: can figure it for different. Situations so in the case

1253
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 23: of the log, scale we can you, know we, scale

1254
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 23: we scale trucks full of logs or trains full of.

1255
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 23: Logs is that they drive. In we scan, Everything we

1256
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 23: download all the geosmetric measurements and upload it into the

1257
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 23: into the into the data.

1258
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: System how many people are because i've seen your machine,

1259
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 2: BEFORE i don't know that it is your. Machine whether

1260
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 2: there are there other players in this market doing this

1261
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: sort of thing or.

1262
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 21: Not, yeah there's there's there's always players in the. Market

1263
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 21: there's there's a number of different players with different. Approaches

1264
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 21: SO i guess you, know our approach has been around

1265
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 21: developing a hybrid. Technology so you, know we don't think

1266
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 21: battery technology is quite there for long operational, house so

1267
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 21: we just use a diesel engine to generate. Power the

1268
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 21: rest of the machine is total. Electric so untankeed diesel

1269
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 21: can operate on an orchard for twenty four hours where

1270
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 21: you see seventy percent less. Fuel so you, know we're

1271
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 21: really heading towards, that you, know full sustainability and. Decarbonization

1272
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 21: but the battery tech's got a little way to go

1273
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 21: to be able to operate a machine of that, size

1274
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 21: driving and implement for long.

1275
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: Hours, yeah interesting. Times go well with, That. Steve Congratulations Steve.

1276
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 2: SAUNDERS i mean you've gotta start. Small next, Thing yamaha

1277
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: Has knocking at The door robotics PLUS. Ceo look it.

1278
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: Up look at Their website's quite interesting what they. Do

1279
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: AND i think this is the future of that sort of.

1280
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: Tech and you see it in buses and things where

1281
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: THE a TO b something that can GO a TO,

1282
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: B b TO A a TO. B that's where your

1283
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 2: driver is. Tech, yeah all of that sort of. THING

1284
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: i think that's the. Future getting it on the city

1285
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: roads and STUFF i think is going nowhere. Fast, Mike

1286
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 2: i'm surprised you want to live anwhere in the. Dust,

1287
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: well that's a beauty of my. Life Sometimes i'm in the,

1288
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: town Sometimes i'm in the, country and that's what life's

1289
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: all about. About, Contrast, mike you need a decent card,

1290
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: detalier card. Detailer i've got. One it's me dust in

1291
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: new water. Tanks, NO i. WON'T i get dust and

1292
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 2: the water tanks don't don't start right.

1293
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 14: Is that a euphemism for something you?

1294
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: Look, well it wasn't till, well it wasn't till you said, It. Glenn,

1295
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: no you're grubby. Little you're grubby, Little. Glenn, now, Politics, Mike,

1296
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: Mitchell Ginny anderson will have to talk about the business

1297
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: of the violent, crime and we'll talk about the new

1298
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: police commissioner and how excited he seems to be around

1299
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: the new. Law so we'll get into that With mark

1300
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: And jenny after the, news which is. Next you had,

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01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: News tom.

1302
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 5: Said.

1303
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: Mike has, game, insightful engaging and, Vital The Mic, Hosking

1304
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: breakfast with A, Vida, Retirement, Communities Life Your, Way, News,

1305
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: Togs Dead Brown, Breaking.

1306
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 14: Mike crown.

1307
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: Crawling, me, yes taking that's.

1308
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 14: That's Exactly you've exactly figured out What i'd.

1309
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: Me sixteen and a half. Years, okay what we got

1310
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: here Is Heather berry Maybe tony Maybe i'm assuming they're,

1311
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 2: Related Kurt love And Jonathan, dillon and they got. Together

1312
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: they are individual. Musicians they used to be part of

1313
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 2: The Junior sisk band for several years and they, said

1314
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: the suspectancy going, Nowhere let's form The Red Camel, collective

1315
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: and so they did so they are now The Red Camel.

1316
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: Collective and then they went to put out their album

1317
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: and they, said what what should The Red Camel collective

1318
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: call their first? Album and so they decided to call

1319
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: it The Red Camel collective, first keeping it. Simple you

1320
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: don't want to get to complicated ten. Tracks there's not

1321
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: even much of, this which is probably a blessing thirty

1322
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: four minutes for country, music but pretty hard on with.

1323
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 2: This it's eight minutes past. Eight time for. Politics windy

1324
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: And Ginny anderson's with us along With Mark. MITCHELL a

1325
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: very good morning to both of. You, jenny did you

1326
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: know you would know because of both of your. Jobs

1327
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: but this this thousand dollars, Thing, mark when you go

1328
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: make a citizen's arrest, or it's got to be after

1329
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: nine o'clock or before six o'clock in the. Morning who invented?

1330
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 3: That is that part of The is that part Of paul's?

1331
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 5: Announcement, no that's the law, Now, Mark, well to be

1332
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 5: honest with, You i'm going to wait Until paul makes

1333
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 5: his announcement this st after do. It i'm quite excited

1334
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 5: about some of the things that we're doing around retail.

1335
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 5: Crime but that law that you just to be honest with,

1336
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 5: You i'd have to go away.

1337
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 12: And have a look at.

1338
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: It, SEE i don't think anyone knows That lord what you, Did.

1339
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: Jenny clearly have you done a few, arrests a few

1340
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: citizens arresting you in your, Life, Jinny i'd back you

1341
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 2: on a after a hard day to select committee and

1342
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 2: you want to run through the hut wall and you're

1343
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: going that bastard's got a, Television i'm taking them.

1344
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 24: Out, WELL i Think i'm a similar height to, You,

1345
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 24: mark so much chances of actually successfully doing something would be.

1346
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 2: Low go for the, ankles ankle, tap a little ankle.

1347
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 2: Tap so without getting ahead of, It, mark BECAUSE i

1348
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: know you're under instruction not to talk about. It but

1349
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 2: what stops the sisters and arrest and the law and

1350
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: rules and regulations around it getting out of? Control, WELL i.

1351
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 5: Mean you do have to have some pretty strict rules

1352
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 5: and guidelines around. It AND i don't want to get

1353
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 5: ahead Of paul's announcement this. Afternoon that will be much

1354
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 5: clearer when he makes his. Announcement BUT i do know

1355
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 5: one thing that we have to do something about making

1356
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 5: sure that, retailers their, employers and their customers are safe

1357
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 5: and although we're seen that we are seeing a really

1358
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 5: positive reduction and violent retail, crime we know that we

1359
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 5: still have a lot more to. Do we know that

1360
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 5: we want to get on top of the nonviolent retail

1361
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,479
Speaker 5: crime as, well because have you seen that continues although

1362
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 5: it's slowing, down that continues to tick. Up we want

1363
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 5: to get on top of. That but you, know, Overall

1364
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,919
Speaker 5: i'm very very pleased to the direction that we're hitting

1365
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 5: as a. Country we knew that we are in big

1366
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 5: trouble under the previous. GOVERNMENT i want to acknowledge the.

1367
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 5: Police they are doing an outstanding. Job and by the,

1368
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 5: WAY i just want to acknowledge our corrections officers, too

1369
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 5: because we have it had an uptick in people coming

1370
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 5: into our prisons and they are doing an outstanding. Job

1371
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 5: they don't get recognized much because they're behind the, wire

1372
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 5: but there's tens of thousands of positive actions that happen

1373
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 5: every day in our correction.

1374
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 2: System as long as the writing, Instructions ginny are fair

1375
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: or reasonable in terms of what a security guard and

1376
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: the supermarket can do by way of citizens, Arrest are

1377
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 2: you broadly in favor of.

1378
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 24: It, WELL i understand it's, people so it's not just security.

1379
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: Guards that would be someone but that's going to be

1380
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 2: the outworking of, it isn't. IT i, Mean i'm not

1381
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 2: going to arrest. Anybody it'll be a security. Guard and

1382
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 2: supermarket are More yeah.

1383
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 24: You might, not but what are. They one of the

1384
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 24: concerns of those big retailers who want people to buy

1385
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 24: things in the shop is that they will see incidents

1386
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 24: in the. Store so if someone does attempt to steal,

1387
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 24: something you have another another store. Member you're tackling them

1388
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 24: or trying to restrain them or hold them, down and

1389
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 24: that's where things can get.

1390
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: DANGEROUS i reckon the first video you see of somebody

1391
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: being sat on At Harvey, norman people are going are

1392
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: going to, go good job and about a freaking. Time well, that,

1393
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 2: yeah it.

1394
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 24: Is, Good but there are lots of instances and we've

1395
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 24: seen those In New zealand where people have been injured

1396
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 24: or lost their life because there's a weapon. Involved and

1397
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 24: so that's the. Concern And i'm actually really Surprised marxi

1398
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 24: years because you ask any police officer whether it's a

1399
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 24: good idea for people to take law into their own,

1400
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 24: hands and they will always say that it ends in,

1401
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 24: disaster and so it's a strong message police have always

1402
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 24: given that it's not safe for our communities for people

1403
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 24: to do.

1404
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 3: This would you.

1405
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 24: Think it will be very interesting to see how this

1406
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 24: actually pans out in reality and have some big risks

1407
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 24: on the side of the.

1408
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 5: Government, well they haven't supported anything we've done in terms

1409
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 5: of public safety since we come into government and we

1410
01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 5: see no, you, no no.

1411
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: You labor hasn't supported.

1412
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 24: ANYTHING i think the police will support that smart against and.

1413
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 5: By the, way and by the, Way, Mike i'm, sorry

1414
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 5: but call me old fashioned shopkeepers that are having people

1415
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 5: go and and try to put hammers through the, heads

1416
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 5: AND i was at the bedside of one just. Recently

1417
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 5: have to make sure the law actually protects him and

1418
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 5: put some some protection around the.

1419
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: POLICE i think you're missing THE i think you're on

1420
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 2: the right side of his. Crew having said, THAT i

1421
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: think you're on the right side of, It. Mark BUT

1422
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 2: i do Take tony's. Point the first one that goes

1423
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 2: wrong and the chances are as something will because a

1424
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 2: few of these are on meth heads and they got

1425
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 2: nothing to, lose and it's going to get. Ugly, really

1426
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: the politics of, that you're going to be peddling fairly,

1427
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 2: Hard i'd, Suggest, well.

1428
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 5: WELL i can tell you now that already shopkeepers that

1429
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 5: have stepped. Forward and that example THAT i was using

1430
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 5: was the son step forward to defend his his father

1431
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 5: who was on the ground and having a hammer put

1432
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 5: through his. Head And i'm, sorry but the police can't

1433
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 5: be everywhere all the, time and we want to be

1434
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 5: very clear and make sure that those people and customers

1435
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 5: are protected and have the right to be able to

1436
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 5: actually defend their property and themselves without criminalizing. Themselves AND

1437
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 5: i think that that is just a, practical common sense

1438
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 5: thing to do and to return some power back to

1439
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 5: the people that have been.

1440
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: Victimized, now, right let's talk To let's talk About Andrew

1441
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: bailey in a, Moment Mark, Mintell Junny, anderson Thirteen past.

1442
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full show podcast On, iHeartRadio Pard

1443
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: By News Talks It Be New.

1444
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: Talks Have me sixteen past Eight Politics, Wednesday Jinny, Anderson Mark,

1445
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: mitchell quick comment before we get To. Bailey, jinny just in,

1446
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 2: general we Had Erica stamford, yesterday those numbers on teachers

1447
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 2: that they cocked up yet. Again we had The rose

1448
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: report last. Week in, general from your experience is the

1449
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 2: public service holding a government of the day back through

1450
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 2: an aptitude.

1451
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 6: From.

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01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 24: Experience.

1453
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 11: No.

1454
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 24: No in, general the EXPERIENCE i had with those people

1455
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 24: have reported to me and given me advice have been

1456
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 24: incredibly effective and have helped resolve some quite big problems

1457
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 24: that would have cost a lot more if you have

1458
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 24: gone to a private Contractor.

1459
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 2: Do you have to micromanage them at? Times i've never had.

1460
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 24: To i've had excellent people working to, me have always

1461
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 24: done a very good job and generally jocobous.

1462
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 2: Okay what about, you?

1463
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 5: Mate, yeah generally they're very very. Good but we don't

1464
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 5: take all their. Advice that's what we've been voted. In,

1465
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 5: well you, know we have things that we want to

1466
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 5: achieve and things that we want to, do and some

1467
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 5: of the ADVICE i taken other. Stuff i'm very clear

1468
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 5: about WHAT i want to achieve and that's what we.

1469
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: Do what about your, Math, SO i, MEAN i know

1470
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,600
Speaker 2: this isn't your, Area, mark but they thought they had

1471
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 2: a thousand more teachers and turns out they got twelve

1472
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty short two and a half thousand. Wrong

1473
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: but when you're dealing with that level of, incompetence how

1474
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: do you handle? It because it comes back on.

1475
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 5: You, WELL i THINK i listened to that interview of

1476
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 5: The erica and she's very clear about the fact that

1477
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 5: her own gut feeling was telling her that she couldn't

1478
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 5: rely on the data and went back and challenged it

1479
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 5: and thankfully sort of has got ahead of the curved

1480
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 5: to some. Extent but you, know that's our. Job our

1481
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 5: job is to just sit there and have, people have

1482
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 5: a long line of officials come through and tell us

1483
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 5: what they think we should be. Doing we're in government

1484
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 5: because we want to make, changes and we want to

1485
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 5: implement what our policies are and and and get on

1486
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 5: and do.

1487
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 24: That and that's what We the evidence just gets in

1488
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 24: the way, sometimes doesn't.

1489
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 5: It Having, Well i'm, Sorry, jenny but you might have

1490
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 5: religiously gone off everything that adviser has told. You we don't,

1491
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 5: well and IF i did, that then we probably wouldn't

1492
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 5: be seeing all the results we're seen at the moment

1493
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 5: and in relation and reduction of violent crime in our country.

1494
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: Days we've got to keep that.

1495
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 24: Going you've got four, papers one including when you signed

1496
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 24: out saying that gangs were using gun rangers to practice these,

1497
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 24: skills you still didn't and you still didn't know about,

1498
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 24: it so you don't read You.

1499
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 5: Well that's, well that's that's complete. Nonsense having let's, get let's.

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01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 5: Get BUT i will say, This, mike is it is?

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01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 5: It labor didn't support gaining, legislation but it's proven to

1502
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 5: be very.

1503
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: Effective, well IF i have, Time i'm going to come

1504
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 2: back To. CHAMBERS i want to quick not, that But,

1505
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: ginny just quickly On, bailey do you run the risk

1506
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: of in the it's the media's fault as. Well you

1507
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 2: know how long it. Took you had the weekend and

1508
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 2: we didn't say anything and his hand was on his

1509
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: arm and he had to go and everyone get. Sacked

1510
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 2: do we not send the message overall that people coming

1511
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 2: from outside into. Politics so that's the sort of treatment they.

1512
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 2: Get and it's not excuse me What bailey, did but

1513
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 2: that's the sort of treatment they. Get who can be

1514
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 2: bothered with? It it sounds. Pathetic who's the question to?

1515
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 11: Me?

1516
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 24: You, WELL i tell you what did sound terrible was

1517
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 24: your interview with The Prime minister use today and SO

1518
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 24: i think you know it was. Painful he was all

1519
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 24: over the.

1520
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,879
Speaker 2: Place i'm not asking about. That i'm asking About bailey

1521
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 2: and hipkins barking at dogs and, cars and it's just

1522
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: it becomes a sort of a. Sacothon AND i sacked

1523
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 2: them in two minutes and it took For it's like

1524
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 2: from the outside.

1525
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 24: Looking at answer your, QUESTION i think it would be

1526
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 24: really helpful if we knew what actually.

1527
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: Happened so, well he got in the heated, discussion, grabbed pushed.

1528
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 24: His, arm did he Squeeze it was if.

1529
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 2: Someone stood on, him then fair. Enough but there was

1530
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: a heated. Exchange someone grabbed someone's, arm and the next

1531
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: thing he knows he's out of a.

1532
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 24: Career, well we don't know that because he won't tell

1533
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 24: us the. Details so if we could make a judgment

1534
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 24: on the, facts it would be good to know those.

1535
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 2: FACTS i don't, know what do you, Think, MARK i,

1536
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: mean you've GOT i want to Recognize andrew and and

1537
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: the fact that he was doing something outstanding.

1538
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 5: There he obviously felt like he had crossed the. Line

1539
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 5: he's he's a very good LOCAL mp and you know

1540
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 5: him and his. Family we will be really feeling it,

1541
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 5: now without a. Doubt that's these things play out in

1542
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 5: the public and it's not.

1543
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 2: Easy but he obviously.

1544
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 5: Stepped forward and took responsibility for him and that was

1545
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 5: the right thing to.

1546
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 2: Do, YEAH i get. That but having said, That ginny is,

1547
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 2: right the fluxing did sound dreadful. Yesterday what's his? Problem,

1548
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 2: mark there's a.

1549
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 5: Shot, well you're asking the wrong person because you know

1550
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 5: That i'd really rate.

1551
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 2: Him, Well, LOOK i do. TOO i MEAN i liked

1552
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: the guy AND i want them to do. Well and

1553
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 2: that's not a political. STATEMENT i just want anybody to

1554
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: do well to get this country off its. Knees but you,

1555
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: know if you heard, YESTERDAY i, mean come.

1556
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 5: On, well Look i'm a huge supporter of his AND

1557
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 5: i think that. No but but He's but he's when

1558
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 5: you look at, it we don't really step back and

1559
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 5: look at, it it's extraordinary what he's. Achieved he's only

1560
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 5: been in. Politics you, know this is a second. Term

1561
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 5: he's The Prime minister of the, country leading us one

1562
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,440
Speaker 5: of the most difficult times that we've ever had, economically

1563
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 5: and he's a solid he's, dependable he's there every, day

1564
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 5: he knows what we have to. Do he's great for

1565
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 5: me being a. Minister you couldn't ask for a better prime.

1566
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 5: Minister you next me up and everything THAT i need to.

1567
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 24: Do people aren't buying it people super.

1568
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 2: Quick, jenny The Health, COMMITTEE i had fifteen thousand written

1569
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,919
Speaker 2: submissions on the gene technology. Bill you're on the committee

1570
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 2: for the. Treaty is this level of submissions? Unusual are

1571
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 2: we suddenly more active or is it the same people

1572
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 2: photocopying stuff off and just duplicating.

1573
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 24: Everything there are huge amounts of. Submissions they're breaking away

1574
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 24: records every. Time and one of the things that happen

1575
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 24: as we have larger umbrella groups that do form. Submissions

1576
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 24: so you just had to write your name in a

1577
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 24: few lines in that. Generator is that? Useful not, really

1578
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 24: because you're just getting the same thing a, Lot so

1579
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 24: you're wanting a variety of views so you understand the.

1580
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 24: Detail AND i think people have this misconception that it's a,

1581
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 24: race so the most submissions win the.

1582
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 13: Point that's.

1583
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: Right that's WHY i ask the. Question, Happens, yeah it

1584
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 2: seems fruitless or pointless to, mean nice to see, you,

1585
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,879
Speaker 2: Guys Mirke Mitchell Ginny anderson eight twenty.

1586
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 3: Two The Mic Hosking breakfast With Dailey's Real Estate News.

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Speaker 2: Dogs they'd be good news if you're looking for the

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Speaker 2: Investments so get the exact kitchen you, want add real

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01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: value to your, home save thousands in the. Process you do,

1606
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Speaker 2: IT u DU, i you do?

1607
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Speaker 11: It are their.

1608
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 2: Customers proud to SAY i did it? Myself asking your

1609
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 2: attitude to bulk submissions smacks of. Arrogance the block submissions

1610
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 2: give people who would normally make up the silent majority of.

1611
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 2: VOICE covid has taught us all the silence as permission

1612
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 2: for overriding. Governance, megan you're right and you're. Wrong but

1613
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 2: it's like online. Petitions these, days no one pays any

1614
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 2: attention to an online petition anymore because it's not a proper.

1615
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: Petition you just tick a, box and then once you've

1616
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: ticked that, box you can take it again and again

1617
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: and again and again and again and again and. Again

1618
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: it's a waste of. Time what select Can he's are

1619
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 2: looking for is rational and reasoned. Argument whether it comes

1620
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 2: from sixteen four hundred and fifty seven people or one

1621
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: person doesn't make any difference because they know full well

1622
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 2: that a bulk submission doesn't necessarily represent each in every

1623
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: one of the people who allegedly, submitted because it's so

1624
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 2: easy to. Do they've seen through the. Shearat if you

1625
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: get my message as regards The Prime minister's interview yesterday

1626
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 2: will revis as it's turned into sort of a news,

1627
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 2: story but there is a very very good side to.

1628
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 2: It there's a happy ending if you. Like more on

1629
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: that shortly after the news which is, next and then

1630
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: of Course Steve.

1631
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 3: Price, news opinion and everything in.

1632
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: Between the Mic hosking breakfast with the Range rover VI

1633
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: la designed to intrigue and use togs'd be just in from.

1634
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 2: THE insidex the INSIDE me, result which is the company

1635
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Speaker 2: that runs this radio. Station operating earnings Before i'm on

1636
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 2: the fly here a little bit operating earnings before the

1637
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: old ebit darn number fifty four point two million, revenue

1638
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: thank you for the year three forty five point, nine

1639
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 2: which is up two, percent WHICH i think most people

1640
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,839
Speaker 2: will readers being positive given it's a fairly titled. Economy

1641
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: obviously in the media market in general is a. Problem

1642
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 2: numbers two and a half million tune into ends In

1643
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: me's digital platforms each, month and if you whacken the

1644
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 2: audio and print and, stuff you got three and a

1645
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: half million. People so that's a big company Into me's

1646
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 2: digital audio, performance particularly strong revenue reaching ten point eight,

1647
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 2: million thirty two percent, increase which is. Good podcast revenues

1648
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 2: grown sixty seven, Percent digital radio streaming revenues increased by nineteen.

1649
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 2: Percent one roofs digital revenue increase by fifty one percent

1650
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 2: now makes up sixty one percent of one roofs total

1651
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 2: revenue up from fifty four percent and twenty twenty Three

1652
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 2: Mike Costing breakfast keeps on keeping. On oh sorry IF

1653
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 2: i ded that. Myself twenty three minutes away.

1654
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 16: From Nine international correspondence with ends and eye, insurance peace

1655
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 16: of mind For New zealand.

1656
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 3: Business plus the gentleman we go to be.

1657
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 2: Priced very good morning to, you. Monnie now what you

1658
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 2: got in the last couple of. Minutes so the nurse

1659
01:16:59,040 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: in the, hospital.

1660
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 15: Yes and breaking. News you remember the two nurses out

1661
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 15: of That sydney hospital in the, scrubs they were doing

1662
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 15: an online chat with This israeli influencer From israel and

1663
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 15: they then started talking about what they would do If

1664
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,879
Speaker 15: jewish patients were admitted to the, hospital making wild claims

1665
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 15: That jewish patients had been killed within the. Hospital it

1666
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 15: was all very very disturbing and nasty. Stuff, well in

1667
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 15: the last few moments we learned that one of those,

1668
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:31,799
Speaker 15: nurses the female woman Called Sarah, lebda was charged On tuesday,

1669
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 15: night seven Thirty tuesday, night charged with threatening violence using

1670
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 15: a carriage, service which just means that she was using

1671
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 15: that chat with The israeli influencer to make threats against

1672
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 15: people and police have decided to charge and no news

1673
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 15: on the male part of that. Conversation the other development

1674
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 15: on that was That New South Wales police actually. Traveled

1675
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 15: Australian Federal police actually traveled To israel interviewed the. Influencer

1676
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 15: they had to get that. Interview when it came back

1677
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 15: it was In, hebrew had to get it transferred Into.

1678
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 15: English they're now working their way through. That so that's

1679
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 15: happened in the last couple of.

1680
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 2: Good, well a lot of people will be pleased about

1681
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 2: that BECAUSE i know in the last couple of days

1682
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 2: the pressure has gone on the feeds to cough and

1683
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 2: they had to, say, look be. Patient, Yeah i'm.

1684
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 15: Very reluctant to talk about, it but we've got centered

1685
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 15: estimates hearings on at the. MOMENT i Guess i've got

1686
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 15: no doubt that will come up at some point.

1687
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 2: Today, Right, so the prospect of a hung, parliament because

1688
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 2: we sort of DO i mean THE cmmp environment and.

1689
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 2: STUFF i mean we're kind of used to it, now

1690
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 2: but you still run a sort of a system whereby

1691
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 2: somebody wins and somebody doesn't. Win what are you going

1692
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: to do with a hung?

1693
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 15: Parliament, well according to The mining executives and news quotes

1694
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 15: used language That i've rarely. Heard two of them top energy.

1695
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 15: Chiefs one of them Is meg, O'Neil who Runs Woodside.

1696
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 15: Energy massive company got a thirty billion dollar project on

1697
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 15: The Northwest. Shelf the other one Is Brett, woods who

1698
01:18:55,560 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 15: Runs Kerry stokes's oil business out of Wa Beach. Energy,

1699
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 15: woods writing In Australay, today said it'll be a nightmare

1700
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 15: and a quiet menace of an horrific policy will come

1701
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,959
Speaker 15: out of it if we have a cross bench dominated

1702
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 15: by The greens And teals in minority government with The Labor.

1703
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 15: Party would A meg O'Neil went. Further she said the

1704
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 15: balance of power featuring The greens and The tials would quote,

1705
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 15: frankly be a. Nightmayor now this is extremely strong language

1706
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 15: weeks out for an. Election the boss of the oil,

1707
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 15: operation he, said quote so if you feel your hip

1708
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 15: pocket as a dull, ache now it'll be battered and

1709
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 15: bruised if The greens are handed more sway in. Parliament,

1710
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 15: O'Neil the woman the Running, woodside she, said if The

1711
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 15: teals hold the balance of power federally with The, greens

1712
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 15: it would be bad for. Households it would be a,

1713
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,759
Speaker 15: nightmare and she was beyond frustrated with the ongoing delays

1714
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 15: with The Northwest shelf. Approval now that project is called

1715
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 15: The Burrop. Peninsula it's actually up In northwest In Western.

1716
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 15: Australia it's been held up by all of these people

1717
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 15: claiming that it's going to Damage aboriginal rock art up,

1718
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 15: there which it clearly is.

1719
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 12: Not going to.

1720
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 15: Do so that's just a shot across the bowels of

1721
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 15: anyone who thinks that they might be voting independent during

1722
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 15: the next.

1723
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 2: Election here's the advantage of a system that you have

1724
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 2: that we don't, have and that is that you can

1725
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 2: manipulate your, vote or at least massage you. Vote we've

1726
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 2: only got a couple of, votes and this happened a

1727
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 2: couple of elections. Ago people got frightened for The greens

1728
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 2: and they balked on The greens and they Gave labor the,

1729
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 2: majority And labor went nuts and ruined the. Country if

1730
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 2: you preference, appropriately can you achieve what you think you

1731
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: are going to achieve when you?

1732
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 15: Vote it seems impossible to think you. CAN i, mean

1733
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 15: you go into the booth and you've got a mile

1734
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 15: long voting slip and you've got to go number from

1735
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 15: one to as many as forty or. Something you feel

1736
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 15: inadequate when you're doing, it and the party's trying to

1737
01:20:58,320 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 15: give you a how to vote card as you walk

1738
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 15: through the, door or which makes it. Easy you just

1739
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 15: tick their candidate preferences go automatically to whoever they suggest

1740
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 15: they should go. To but the system is very much

1741
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 15: invent in advantage of the. Independence AND i think the

1742
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,759
Speaker 15: tills are largely going to hang onto those inner suburban

1743
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 15: seats In sydney And. Melbourne it's the greens where you

1744
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 15: can pick off some of them In queensland and it's

1745
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 15: the outer suburban seats Where labour's got small. Majorities that

1746
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 15: is where you will probably see THE lmp pickup.

1747
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 2: Numbers, okay and then we come to. Desenter who wants

1748
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 2: to make the place of townhouse capital in what? Form

1749
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: where is? This is this her area or the whole

1750
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: of the, state whole?

1751
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 15: State the quote WAS i want to Make victoria the

1752
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 15: townhouse capital Of. Australia now this is really. Disturbing what

1753
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 15: you you can't guess at, it But i'm going to

1754
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 15: ask you, anyway what do you think the normal waiting

1755
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,799
Speaker 15: time to get planning permission to build a house in inverted.

1756
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 12: Commons, well i'd like.

1757
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 2: To say seven, days but it's probably going to be fifteen, months.

1758
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 15: One hundred and forty five. Days he has, said if

1759
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 15: you build the townhouses THAT i want, built and these

1760
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 15: are three story, Structures i'll make sure that the override

1761
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 15: your local council and you'll get permissioned in fifty eight.

1762
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 15: Days and if you're next door neighbours SAYS i don't

1763
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 15: like three story town, has SO i don't want one

1764
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 15: next to, me you'll have no opportunity to.

1765
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 2: Appeal, wow that's called, Communism. Steve i'm not sure if

1766
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 2: you work that one out. Yet but we were having

1767
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 2: a similar thing here that got killed as, well and

1768
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,879
Speaker 2: it was going to be three houses our three stories

1769
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 2: on a standard block of lands six or seven hundred

1770
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 2: square meter block of, land you can build three three

1771
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 2: story houses and no one could complain about. It and

1772
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 2: quite you, know obviously people did. Complains it never came to,

1773
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 2: pass so good.

1774
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 12: Lucky, well same thing's going to happen.

1775
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 15: HERE i, mean it's just you go to some of

1776
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 15: these outer suburbs and you, know there's no, infrastructure there's

1777
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 15: no Park.

1778
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 12: Lands there's no, schools there's one shopping.

1779
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 2: Center it's horrific and they're all Likely victoria just to

1780
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: spring this on, You AND i apologize if you don't,

1781
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 2: know because Why. Victoria The Crimes act section four five

1782
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 2: eight allows anyone to arrest anyone they find committing an.

1783
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 2: Offense do you know that to be? TRUE i did

1784
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 2: not know.

1785
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 12: That so that's going to make my day very.

1786
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: Busy so you're out there and make a few citizens, Arrest, yeah.

1787
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 15: Correctly while we go Into Chatterel street WHEN i get

1788
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 15: off the phone and arrest a few of those people

1789
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 15: wandering around with ice, addiction making them sub.

1790
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 12: That look like a ten only.

1791
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 2: Mate you, go, Well Stuve price out Of australia backhand

1792
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 2: next week on the, program it's already sixteen To know.

1793
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 1: The Hike Asking Breakfast Full show podcast On iHeartRadio powered

1794
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: By News talks at b.

1795
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 2: All me out. Here so in The Hero i'm just

1796
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 2: reading at the moment That Highland, park which is an

1797
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 2: area In, auckland has got a new pack And save

1798
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: which is opening. Today and this is a new one

1799
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 2: hundred million dollar pack And. SAVE i assume that's a

1800
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 2: lot for a. Supermarket therefore it's a big. Supermarket but

1801
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 2: the story is that the customers are facing an our

1802
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 2: long queue and the car park is completely not a.

1803
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 2: Chaos what is it about the opening of? STUFF i

1804
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 2: UNDERSTAND i won't be, there BUT i Understand, ikea for,

1805
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 2: example When ikia finally, opens even though it's opened in

1806
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 2: every single country in the entire world except. Here When ikea,

1807
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 2: OPENS i get that people you know want to go

1808
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 2: and have a. Look Cost co was the. Same but

1809
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,719
Speaker 2: pack and, Say i'm not sure if you is already

1810
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 2: available to us in this country and has been for

1811
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: quite some. Time i'm almost certain in saying that there

1812
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: is nothing in that pack and save that isn't in

1813
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 2: another pack and, say.

1814
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 22: Well what except for the share? Size is that what

1815
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 22: you're C go in there and you can go look

1816
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 22: how much bigger that this is than?

1817
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 2: Now CAN i suggest to you that instead of waiting

1818
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,560
Speaker 2: for an hour with the chaotic car, park you. Go

1819
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 2: maybe in three days time it will still be the same,

1820
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 2: size not just the same size on opening day then

1821
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 2: it will.

1822
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 14: Shrink, well they have a lot of opening. Specials did do.

1823
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 2: You think we use the opening? Special what is it?

1824
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 2: Good tell us WHY i have no.

1825
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 14: Idea i'm just getting this from sources close to.

1826
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 5: Me.

1827
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 14: Everyone should we get should we Get jason and interview

1828
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 14: him about this sort of?

1829
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 2: Thing we can see the sort of person WHO i

1830
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: imagine he would.

1831
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 22: Have, been because you know that he he loves an

1832
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:04,839
Speaker 22: opening or. Something, yeah he's a he's a road opening

1833
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 22: kind of a walkout.

1834
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 14: Room that is, true isn't.

1835
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 2: It he went when they're building the road whatever that road,

1836
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 2: was it was mungering South South. Oakland he went to

1837
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 2: the road where they opened the road for you to

1838
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 2: walk on before the. Cars he went down family. Trip

1839
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 2: that's what he. Does he's quite. Right i'm surprised is at.

1840
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 22: WORK i mean as not a Pack, say it's not

1841
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 22: a forty nine cent head Of Bob choy enough to

1842
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 22: get you in?

1843
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 11: There is that the?

1844
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 2: Deal? Bobjoy forty nine cents ninety nine for an avoca that's. Standard,

1845
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 2: yep eighty nine cents for a bottle of coconut. Water

1846
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: that seems a good. Deal that ninety nine for the

1847
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: avocado that's bog Standard at the. MOMENT i mean there's

1848
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 2: the market's festooned with avocados at the. Moment, mike like

1849
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 2: YOU i Want luxton to do, well and genuinely want

1850
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 2: him to do, well and think he is the best,

1851
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 2: hope but found yesterday's In tobu. Excruciating, anyway had time

1852
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 2: to think about it all yesterday WHILE i was. DRIVING

1853
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 2: i Think luckxlon was trying to say badly is that

1854
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 2: the ministers know his expectations and they're agreed to and

1855
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 2: so if they cross these, expectations they are meant to

1856
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 2: resign without THE pm having to ask for. IT i

1857
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 2: think you're. RIGHT i think your stummation is one hundred percent.

1858
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: Correct but the reason this is news twenty four hours

1859
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 2: later is you spent all day deciphering what The Prime minister,

1860
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 2: said and even if you came to what you AND

1861
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 2: i agree is probably the correct, conclusion it shouldn't be that.

1862
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 2: Way and not only shouldn't it be that, way he

1863
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 2: knows it shouldn't be that way because he's been told

1864
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be that. Way and the polls reflect that

1865
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 2: there's a lack of connection between the public and The Prime.

1866
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 2: Minister he's not particularly. LIKABLE i think many of us

1867
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,560
Speaker 2: wish him. Well those of us who know him like.

1868
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: Him he's a good, guy he's got good. Ideas he broadly,

1869
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 2: speaking has a fantastic work. Ethic he's on the right.

1870
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 2: Track hopefully the economy will come. Right but the bit

1871
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 2: that's missing is the bit that you saw With, key

1872
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 2: And key was one of, us And luxon doesn't appear to.

1873
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 2: Be and the more he, tries the less successfully he.

1874
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 13: Is, oh come, on come, on give me a.

1875
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,759
Speaker 2: Break nine minutes away from nine.

1876
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: The Make Cosking breakfast with A Vida Retirement Communities News togstad. V.

1877
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 2: Yeah the term granny flat old, fashioned a little bit

1878
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 2: outdated these, days but what brings to mind is a

1879
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 2: simple and basic, dwelling usually attached to a family. Home right,

1880
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 2: well Our veda's living well communities are so much more than.

1881
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 2: That they're offering a range of stunning retirement living options to,

1882
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 2: suit from villas to. Townhouses they've got apartments are the

1883
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 2: homes of modern there's, stylists there's. Spacious the self contained

1884
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: gives you the very best to functionality and, comfort and

1885
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 2: Our vida's beautifully presented homes come in all sorts of

1886
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 2: shapes and sizes and, configurations featuring patios and, deckx open playing,

1887
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 2: kitchens beautiful bathrooms and Our vida specializes in a unique

1888
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: mix of independent living, options including service departments for a

1889
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 2: little more. Support there's also a mix of amenities. Available

1890
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,560
Speaker 2: you've got swimming, pools bowling, greens everything in. Between so,

1891
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 2: basically what the live life your way right in an

1892
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 2: R veda home that's just the perfect fit for, you

1893
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,640
Speaker 2: for your nearest A vida living well. Community book your

1894
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 2: visit at r vida dot co dot Z a r

1895
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: V i D a R vida dot co dot. Nz

1896
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 2: He jason's going to be, busy isn't, He because you've

1897
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 2: got the new pack and saved to. Busy he's got

1898
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 2: The mormon very excited about the New Mormon. Temple he's

1899
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 2: going to The Mormon, temple he's telling us. Yesterday so

1900
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 2: the upshot of the lux and thing why it ended

1901
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 2: so well was he had made very kindly For sammy AND.

1902
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 2: I a couple Of Rolling thunder baseball caps unique two

1903
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 2: of Two Rolling thunder baseball.

1904
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 13: Caps you watch for The Rolling Thunder Michael mike's, coming it.

1905
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 2: Is, coming and two of them turned up, yesterday The

1906
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,839
Speaker 2: Rolling thunder Baseball caps and what was good was posted

1907
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 2: on the socials have a look and what turned out.

1908
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 2: Was the feedback was that how good LOOKING i am

1909
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 2: in a? Cap very good looking in a, cap to

1910
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 2: which my wife vomited in her. Mouth but by the

1911
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 2: end of the day had to concede that the people are.

1912
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 2: RIGHT i am good looking in a. Cap so Now

1913
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 2: i'm allowed to wear a. Cap five to nine.

1914
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:53,839
Speaker 1: Trending now quit chemist, warehouse the real house of. Vitamins.

1915
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 2: Right trump's in trouble because the trade deal with THE,

1916
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 2: us The, mexico And. Canada. Right one reason he's putting

1917
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 2: tariffs on the countries is to make it fair because

1918
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 2: the trade deal is such a bad deal.

1919
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 19: They took advantage OF i look at some of these.

1920
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 19: Agreements i'd read them at, night And i'd, say who

1921
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 19: would ever sign a thing like?

1922
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 10: This?

1923
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 2: Oh the original deal? Was who was the original?

1924
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 13: Deal.

1925
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 19: Sib THE usmca is the, largest, fairest the most, balanced

1926
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 19: and modern trade agreement ever. Achieved there's ever been anything like.

1927
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 19: It other countries are now looking at. It this is

1928
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 19: a colossal victory for our, farmers, ranchers energy, workers factory,

1929
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 19: workers And american workers.

1930
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 2: In all fifty.

1931
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 19: States for the first time In american, history we have

1932
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 19: replaced a disastrous trade deal that rewarded outsourcing with a

1933
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:46,679
Speaker 19: truly fair and reciprocal trade deal that will keep, jobs

1934
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 19: wealth and growth right here In.

1935
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 2: America such a good. Deal never seen such a good

1936
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 2: deal until he's not time reading something that's not a good.

1937
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 2: Deal it's not a good. Deal it's a good. Deal

1938
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,799
Speaker 2: it's not a good. Deal do you think he's? Conflicted

1939
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 2: do you think there's a lot of weird stuf going

1940
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 2: on inside his?

1941
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 14: Head there's anything going on inside his?

1942
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 15: Head?

1943
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: Whoops so the musk thing's not working well for. Him

1944
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 2: the market things not working well for him at the.

1945
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 2: Moment he hasn't fixed the war on day, one and

1946
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 2: he's getting confused with trade. Deal so Maybe James carble's.

1947
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 2: Right James carble's, prediction if you missed it over the,

1948
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 2: weekend this thing's going to implode within thirty days because

1949
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 2: The republicans are going to revolve. Anyway i'll rack you

1950
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 2: up with. That get get out on telegram and spread that.

1951
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 2: Message ye back tomorrow as, Always Happy.

1952
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1953
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1954
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1955
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