1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Jason Walls's with our Sidby's political editor in Wellington, Jason, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,279 Speaker 1: Good afternoon. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: Oh hello, Ryan. 4 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Hey, the battle lines for the next election already been drawn. 5 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: This is over asset sales. 6 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Indeed, well, it was kind of hinted at yesterday with 7 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Nikola Willis, who said that the Treasury had undertaken a 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: body of work to draw up a proposed statement for 9 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: state owned enterprises essentially almost company like things that are 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: owed by the Crown. Now essentially it's assessing their viability 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: to remain state owned. She did not elaborate too much 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: in terms of the various assets that they were looking at. 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: But today Chris Hipke Chris Luxon was forced to elaborate 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: a little bit more because he had previously ruled out 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: the sale of state assets. So we naturally asked them 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: questions about that this morning. 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 3: That's not something that we've been talking about this term. 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: We won't be talking about this term. I'm open to 19 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: talking about it in the longer term and at the 20 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: next election, but that's something for the selection for this term. 21 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: It's not on so not this term of government. But 22 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: it's definitely not a no. We will never be selling 23 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: state assets. In fact, it sounds like it is going 24 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 2: to be an issue for the election. 25 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: Well, well, just as I said, we just take it 26 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: to the election, and we would obviously seek to get 27 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: a bit part of our program that we want to 28 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: talk about it be upfront with new something else. 29 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: So like Nikola Willis, you won't say what assets he's 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: talking about, but he's really moved away from any sort 31 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: of suggestion that it's going to be our areas of 32 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: healthcare or the bigger METEA parts of education. David Seymiller meanwhile, 33 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: is on board and wants asset sales to always be 34 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: on the agenda. 35 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: Do we own the right things for the debt we've 36 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: taken on to ownland? We need to be asking that 37 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: question every day, not just you know, at some point 38 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: worth a binary debate. 39 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 2: So hang on a second. It doesn't sound like Winston 40 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: Peters is that ken. 41 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: I spent my whole career ensuring that our actually has 42 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 3: stay on our position. 43 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 2: So all three of them seem to be on different 44 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: pages on this issue. However, the good thing about elections 45 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: are you don't need agreement with your coalition partners to 46 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: make promises. 47 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: No, it's interesting one, doesn't it? I did it a 48 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: toil about this the other day, Jason, because I feel 49 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: like for voters in twenty twenty six, we're going to 50 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: have to make a choice what direction do we want 51 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: New Zealand to go into and do we want to 52 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: put national back in a strait jacket between the sort 53 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: of economic protectionism of New Zealand first versus that you know, 54 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: let's sell the assets, flog the family silver kind of 55 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: stuff from Act Yeah. 56 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there is a middle ground there because 57 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you can do privatization without selling off hospitals 58 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: and schools, whereas looking at cultable value and saying, well, 59 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: why the heck does the government own a property valuation company? 60 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: You know they won't go flog the schools off. Well 61 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: they no one will let that happen. Let's talk about 62 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: the House today, but firey. 63 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well they did away with question time today because 64 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister had a statement in the House and 65 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: all other parties could respond to that. There was nothing 66 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: too specific. It was just sort of like a speech 67 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: from all parties about whatever the Prime Minister said and 68 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: their response to that. So Chris Luxen coined a new 69 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: name for the opposition. 70 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 3: Got to say, we are a coalition on this side. 71 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: They are a noalition on that side. That's what they're about. 72 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: He took aim at Chris Hopkins's dress sense. 73 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: And mister speaker. 74 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: While we have been back at work four weeks pushing 75 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 3: through changes to make Kiwis so much better off, Chris 76 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: Hipkins is barely out of his jendles. We had signed 77 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: a trade deal before it even grabbed the workshirt out 78 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: of the laundry basket, and. 79 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: He brought together his two great loves, Taylor Swift and 80 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: Sledging the Labor Party. 81 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: But I think all this talk about Eden Park Concerts 82 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: has got in his head because he got it mixed 83 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: up because people wanted the Era's tour. What they didn't 84 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 3: want was the tour that he was proposing era Iss. 85 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: That's not what they wanted. 86 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: I think that one's a little bit better when it's 87 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: written down. Chris Hopkins, meanwhile, was ready to return fire. 88 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: This House has no confidence in this coalition government because 89 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: under its incompetent, arrogant, shambollock and divisive leadership, New Zealand 90 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: is going backwards. 91 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: Jeez, Jippy, tell us how you really feel. And Winston 92 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: was as per ready to attack anyone and everyone here 93 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: he is yelling at somebody at the Greens or Tie party. Marty. 94 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: We couldn't work out who let the wind blow your 95 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: stupid tongue around? Why what? 96 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: Sunshine? 97 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: And I know I've got the microphone and I'll be 98 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: here long after you're gone. 99 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: Parliament is well and truly back. Ladies and gentlemen, strap 100 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: yourselves in. 101 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: All right, Jason, Thank you for that, Jason Walls, News 102 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: Talk ZIBB Political Editor. 103 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 4: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live 104 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: To News Talk zib from four pm weekdays, or follow 105 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio