1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Regions will get a double whammy boost with this Fonterra 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: result net profit up over a billion dollars. Shareholders will 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: get their highest ever total dividend of fifty seven cents 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: a share for the year, which is great. Add to 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: that the consumer brand sale three out of the four 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: billion of that is going back to Miles Hrrell is 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Fontera's chief executive with me tonight, Miles, good evening, good 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: edning run. How did you feel about that result? Oh? 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: Superb result. Our team have got up and delivered and 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: you know, please to be able to stand it there 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: this morning and talk to a farmers and deliver a 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: decent milk price but also decent earnings on top. So no, 13 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: overall superb result for the team. 14 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: What are you expecting in the year ahead. I mean, 15 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: obviously it's been a great year dairy price wise. What 16 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: are you expecting going forward? 17 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, So to finish the year ten sixteen ten dotals 18 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: sixteen per kilogram for the last season, and the forecast 19 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: the head still remains ten dollars a second ye in 20 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: a row forecast of ten dollars, which is we've never 21 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: been done before. Of course, still a bit of uncertainty 22 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: out there in the international market, and we're only in 23 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: the early early stages, so a lot of the water 24 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: to go unto the bridge. But as we see here today, 25 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: feel pretty good about ten dollars for the second year 26 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: in a row. 27 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: When you say uncertainty, do you mean supply stuff or 28 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: trade stuff or both. 29 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: Mainly trade geopolitics. It just it just puts a bit 30 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: of uncertainty in the minds of buyers, whether they be 31 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: in the US or throughout Asia. It just puts unsettledness 32 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: into the market. And so you know, to buyers sit 33 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: around and wait a little bit, and does that soften 34 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: the market? But you know, at the same time, you 35 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: know we've got a good product to sell and the 36 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: customs of wanting it, so those things balance out I 37 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 2: think at a good ten dollars. 38 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: Again, locally, the price of bus is obviously being very 39 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: big on the minds of consumers. Is it frustrating for 40 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: you to hear that debate and to hear the reaction 41 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: from some of our politicians. 42 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think we should acknowledge. I mean, it has 43 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: been tough out there for consumers. In the price of 44 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: dairy products has risen in the last twelve eighty months 45 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: caught quite significantly, so we should acknowledge that it has 46 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: been tough. You know, that said, the wholesale Barta price 47 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: has probably come off about fifteen percent actually in the 48 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: last two months, so you know, at some point that 49 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: will flow through to the supermarkets. I suspect that they'll 50 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: set there in prices, but that should flow through and 51 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: give an element of relief. But you know, at the 52 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: end of the day, as we've said previously, you know, 53 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: the international market has been quite buoyant, which which delivers 54 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: these returns are back to New Zealand and unfortunately that 55 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: that flows through to the markets. 56 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Why the delay for it to flow through, Well. 57 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: Well, I mean depends on what sort of contracts each 58 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: of these supermarkets will have, who they're brought from, over 59 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: what periods we'll be quarterly contracts or spot pricing. So 60 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: you know, there might be some inventory in the system, 61 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: and when you go to the supermarket it's there's stock 62 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: there that didn't arrive this morning. It might have been 63 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 2: there for us for a few weeks, and so those 64 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: things take some time to flow through. But you know, 65 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: as they say, the wholesale price has come down steadily 66 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: in the lasts of a month or two, and I 67 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: expect that to flow through to at some point. 68 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: Roughly north of four billion for the sale of their 69 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: consumer business and three billion going to shareholders, the remainder 70 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: being reinvested into what well. 71 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: So we have a range of things that we're looking at. 72 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: So we haven't made any calls on that other than 73 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: we've already got a pipeline of growth projects out there 74 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: and including additional butter capacity we are putting into the 75 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: South Island at some point next year. So the range 76 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: of sort of growth projects predominantly for the export market again, 77 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: so some of it will go towards that. We also 78 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: want to keep a conservative balance sheet and it's important 79 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: in a cooperative position, and we're dealing an international market 80 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: to maintain a conservative balance sheet. So a combination of 81 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: those things. But at the same time, you know, we 82 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: are in a really good position. It gives us opportunity 83 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: to explore other alternatives as they come up. 84 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: China, how are you feeling about it? They are obviously 85 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: a government they're trying to stoke consumer demand. It has 86 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: been relatively strong for us. How significant is that now 87 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: in terms of the business and how significant will it 88 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: be going forward. 89 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's still a third of our book, maybe 90 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: even slightly more than a third of our book. And 91 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: we have been strong, robust demand in the last twelve months. Yeah, 92 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: has come off from where it was two or three 93 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: years ago, and I think we've talked about that. But 94 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: at the same time, we are still seeing strong demand. 95 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, the innovation cycle 96 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: is quite fast in China. You've got to continue to 97 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: find new products in new markets and new customers, which 98 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: our team in the markets do so feeling good about that. 99 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: I think they've you know, they've seen the GDP growth 100 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: actually start to increase again from the slumps they had 101 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: a year ago, and so we'll ride the wave of that. 102 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 2: But it certainly not back to where it was in 103 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. But we're in a pretty good position. 104 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: I've had text in the show this afternoon miles from 105 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: farmers from your suppliers saying we think it's crazy to 106 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: sell off and it's not. You know, there is a 107 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: range of views, but some saying it's crazy to sell 108 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: off part of the company now that it's running well 109 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: value add et cetera. 110 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: What do you say, Well, look, it's running it's running 111 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: a heck a lot better than where it's been in 112 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: the history of the CORPET. I'd go as far as 113 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: to say that set that still doesn't in our minds 114 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 2: get to the cost of capital that our farmers have invested. 115 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: And so you know, when you're operating in a finite 116 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: resource environment, whether that be cash or others, you've got 117 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 2: to put your farmer's capital things that we're going to 118 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: get the best return and consumers still is the lag 119 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: out of that. So the economics of it, I think 120 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 2: are quite clear. I think you get to the emotional 121 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: element from our farmers that are their brands that they've 122 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: invested in, and we all understand them. But at the 123 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: end of the day, I've got to look through that 124 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: and say what's the right thing to do for the 125 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: cop well in to the next generation or two. I 126 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 2: will take that to farmers at the end of October 127 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: for a vote. We're we're out on farm next week 128 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: talking to a range of farmers to get their views 129 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: and to answer their questions. But you know, we feel 130 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: confident in our position going forward, but ultimately files will 131 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 2: have the end of October. 132 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: All right, Myles, appreciate your time tonight Miles Han and 133 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: congratulations on the result Miles Harold, chief executive at Vounteering. 134 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Alan Drive, Listen live to 135 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: news Talks the'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 136 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio