1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: The Board of the Ministerial Advisory Group into Retail Crime 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: is falling apart at the scenes. It seems three out 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: of the five members of the board resigned since twenty 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: twenty four when it was created. CEO of Retailing ZED 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Carolyn Young is the latest. She blames board chairs Sonny Kshelle. 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Good morning, Carolyn, What an Ryan? What exactly can you 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: give us an example of what he did, you know, 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: to really irk you or to make you quit. 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: Look, I think it's been a series of challenges that 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: have gone on from a very long time. Especially I 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: think it started back when the Dairy Owners Association to 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: put out a press relief personally attacking me and my professionalism, 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: and Sonny was unprepared to do anything about another member 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: on the NAG attacking another member, so you know, it's 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: really unprofessional. And yeah, he just laughed about it and said, oh, 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: you know, these things have happened. And one of the 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: other members who was pooring me on the mag you know, 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: he raised it with the chair and said it was 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: inappropriate for that sort of thing that happened in the media. 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: What did when you say attacking, what what was the attack? 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: They put out a met press release which in March 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: last year, which effectively attacked me personally and my professionalism, 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: made up information and just put it out in the press. 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: So it was really uncaud for because they were unhappy 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: that the members that I represent, so the members of Italians, 26 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: didn't support Sitizan's arrest and therefore we spoke out about 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: that and that was a very that was kind of 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: like the catalyst of where everything you know, went from there. 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: So you're just doing your job, Carolyn, what is it? 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Why do you think Goldsmith's holding on to Sonny? 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: Look, you have to really speak to the minister about that, 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: you know. I think that Sonny has has some perspectives 33 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: that inter lined with a lot of other retailers, but 34 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: they still represent some portion of retail within New Zealand. 35 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: And you know, I think his voice is useful to 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: be heard, but I don't think it's the only voice, 37 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: and I don't think it's the leading voice. 38 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: Do you think it should be gone as chair? Maybe 39 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: it's still on the board, but gone as chair? Yeah, 40 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: would you come back that had changed? 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 2: Look, I think there's a few things that had to 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: change on it. I mean, it's a pretty untenable position. 43 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: But my members are really keen for me to stay 44 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: on the mag because it's really important to be involved 45 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: and be able to put forward, you know what a 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: big portion of retail crime as it's being experienced in 47 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: New Zealand and to support them and their work, that's 48 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: my job. So you know, I guess that's the key 49 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: thing that kept me there for so long. And we 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: had a lot of conversations at board level around what 51 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: was the right thing for us to do and was 52 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: it right for retail and the had to be involved 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: an minister advisory when we're going to agreeing with the 54 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: positions that were being taken. 55 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: Carolyn, appreciate your time this morning. Carolyn Young Retailing is 56 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: the chief executive and no longer on the mag, which 57 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: by the way stands for Ministerial Advisory Group. If you 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: didn't pick that up. 59 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 60 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: to news Talks. 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