1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Confirmation from the Kremlin overnight that a meeting between Trump 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: and Persian will take place as early as next week. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Time is running out for a six five I deal. 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Of course, Trump's threatening oil sanctions on Russia by tomorrow. 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Question is will he now wait for the potential meeting? Olga? 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: If Shina is the BBC Russia correspondent, Olga, welcome to 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: the program. What do you think will happen? 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: Oh, that's you know, that's a good question. If I knew, 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: I guess I would be somewhere else or working somewhere else. 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, the truth is, the things are developing really fast. 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: But the latest from Trump administration it seems that now 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: they say that in order for Putting a Trump to meet, 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: Putting must meet Zelenski. But then earlier today, when Putting 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: was challenged by reporters if he's ready to meet Zlensky, 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: he said certain conditions must be fulfilled, and they are 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: not fulfilled yet, which basically signals that Moscow is not 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: ready to meet Dansky, which puts the subsequent meeting with 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: Trump into question. But I doubt that Trump will hit 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: with tariffs on Friday, bearing in mind the meeting is 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: so close and possible and his PR so called PR victory, 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 2: his possible PR achievement is so close. I don't think 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: he's going to risk it by introducing tariffs on Friday. 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: But does that not just show that person is again 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: stringing Trump alone. 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: It seems that up to now Moscow has been quite 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: successful in dragging on in postponing negotiations and in a way, yeah, 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: playing with Trump's administration on its terms. And we have 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: seen that Putin has achieved, not too much, but he 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: has achieved something. Meanwhile, First of all, he managed to 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: push most of the Ukrainian forces out of the coast 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: region of Russia after the Ukrainian centersion in twenty twenty four. 32 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: He managed to capture a few more little villages in Ukraine. 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, he seems to have initiative on the FUNCT, 34 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: not as much as he wants, but he definitely has 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: achieved something in this last five six months. While he 36 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: tries to pretend he's still open for the peace deal 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: with Ukraine. 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: What's going to stop potent? I mean, he's obviously not 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: scared of more sanctions. He's obviously not scared of Trump 40 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: moving as nuclear as subs around. 41 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a good question. I mean, definitely, Russian economy 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: is not performing marvelously. I mean it it does avoids anxious, 43 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: it does evade anxious quite successfully on some fronts. But 44 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: on the other front, we see that it's dependence on 45 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: the trade with China, it dependence on military equipment from 46 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 2: from North Korea is raising, and there's something which is 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: mister put not happy about. And of course if Trump 48 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: hits with tariffs, it Trumps manages to cut Russian oil 49 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: supplies to the global salt, that might hit Russia quite hard. 50 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: So definitely mister Puttin will try to avoid that either 51 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: we diplomacy all with chess games on the on the 52 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: global chess board, but definitely he won't stop, and he 53 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: definitely wants to achieve some guarantees of how he sees it, 54 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: European security and Russian security how he sees it, which 55 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: means promise of NATO, not not not including Ukraine and 56 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: basically not not not enlarging to the east. 57 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: Oh goat, appreciate your insights as always. 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