1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:14,653 Speaker 1: from News Talks at b that night. 3 00:00:14,973 --> 00:00:19,973 Speaker 2: Talk to you, Oh Cube walks ride through and shoes 4 00:00:20,253 --> 00:00:23,333 Speaker 2: come rolled through My own. 5 00:00:25,133 --> 00:00:28,773 Speaker 3: And I sell my Ohloom. 6 00:00:30,573 --> 00:00:38,133 Speaker 2: Two comes from the storm. Let's leve issues. Playing Coachella 7 00:00:38,453 --> 00:00:40,533 Speaker 2: and Coacheller's this weekend. Some big names of course. I 8 00:00:40,533 --> 00:00:42,253 Speaker 2: mean they're always big names of Coachella. It's kind of 9 00:00:42,293 --> 00:00:48,973 Speaker 2: what defines Coachella. Sabrina Carpenter, Justin Bieber playing Coachella this weekend. 10 00:00:49,373 --> 00:00:52,973 Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes to ten. Francisca Redkin, our film reviewer, 11 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:55,613 Speaker 2: is here with us this morning. Good morning, Good morning. 12 00:00:56,573 --> 00:00:59,333 Speaker 2: We have a couple of rather different films this morning, 13 00:00:59,453 --> 00:01:02,613 Speaker 2: so both of them are showing in cinemas. Today could 14 00:01:02,613 --> 00:01:05,373 Speaker 2: be a good day to go along, hopefully before the 15 00:01:05,413 --> 00:01:07,413 Speaker 2: worst of the storm is impacting us. So let's take 16 00:01:07,413 --> 00:01:09,733 Speaker 2: a little bit of a listen. First, up to Undertone. 17 00:01:10,653 --> 00:01:13,813 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Undertone podcast, where we talk about all 18 00:01:13,933 --> 00:01:14,613 Speaker 3: things creepy. 19 00:01:15,173 --> 00:01:15,693 Speaker 1: I'm your and. 20 00:01:15,773 --> 00:01:19,173 Speaker 3: House skeptic Evie Babbage, and my believer co host says 21 00:01:19,173 --> 00:01:21,693 Speaker 3: he has a real tree for us. Today, we're listening 22 00:01:21,853 --> 00:01:25,453 Speaker 3: to ten sterious audio recordings from an anonymous email. 23 00:01:27,853 --> 00:01:29,493 Speaker 2: Are you implying there is head and messages in it? 24 00:01:29,573 --> 00:01:37,733 Speaker 2: Let me play it back in reverse, don't dam Let's 25 00:01:37,813 --> 00:01:38,573 Speaker 2: just catch the chase. 26 00:01:38,653 --> 00:01:43,333 Speaker 3: This one isn't for you, Jack. A horror film isn't 27 00:01:43,373 --> 00:01:46,413 Speaker 3: something that you rush along. No, But both both the 28 00:01:46,533 --> 00:01:49,853 Speaker 3: films that I'm talking about today are from two new directors. 29 00:01:49,973 --> 00:01:53,973 Speaker 3: These are their featured debuts, and Undertone is really interesting. 30 00:01:54,253 --> 00:01:57,973 Speaker 3: A guy called Entoism has directed this. It is has 31 00:01:58,293 --> 00:02:00,813 Speaker 3: It's an indie horror film. It's from the A twenty 32 00:02:00,853 --> 00:02:03,973 Speaker 3: four studios that likes to give us kind of unique, 33 00:02:04,853 --> 00:02:07,813 Speaker 3: ambitious films, and this one was made on a budget. 34 00:02:08,413 --> 00:02:12,693 Speaker 3: But he's done a really good job of shooting this film, 35 00:02:12,693 --> 00:02:16,013 Speaker 3: which is essentially shot in one location with one on 36 00:02:16,253 --> 00:02:19,773 Speaker 3: screen actor. So the character we heard there, Ev is 37 00:02:19,853 --> 00:02:22,893 Speaker 3: played by Nina Kitty and she is a podcaster on 38 00:02:22,973 --> 00:02:27,173 Speaker 3: a popular paranormal podcast. She has moved back home to 39 00:02:27,293 --> 00:02:30,933 Speaker 3: nurse her dying mother, who is pretty much entirely comatoseed 40 00:02:30,973 --> 00:02:35,453 Speaker 3: the whole film, so an important part, but not a 41 00:02:35,493 --> 00:02:39,493 Speaker 3: big specting part. Her partner in the podcast is Jason 42 00:02:39,653 --> 00:02:44,013 Speaker 3: played by Adam DeMarco, and he's living somewhere else, so 43 00:02:44,093 --> 00:02:45,493 Speaker 3: they sort of catch up in the middle of the 44 00:02:45,613 --> 00:02:48,453 Speaker 3: night to record these podcasts, and we only ever see 45 00:02:48,773 --> 00:02:52,173 Speaker 3: his voice come through online. They just connect online and 46 00:02:52,613 --> 00:02:55,253 Speaker 3: they have parts they play on the podcast as they 47 00:02:55,333 --> 00:02:57,333 Speaker 3: say they were saying, Okay, let's get back into character, 48 00:02:57,773 --> 00:03:01,253 Speaker 3: and he's the believer and she's the skip. Now when 49 00:03:01,293 --> 00:03:03,773 Speaker 3: they're recording this podcast, he has been sent a series 50 00:03:03,933 --> 00:03:07,533 Speaker 3: of audio files and they listen to them and try 51 00:03:07,613 --> 00:03:11,333 Speaker 3: and sort of decipher what's happening. And these files were 52 00:03:11,373 --> 00:03:14,573 Speaker 3: recorded by a couple called Mike and Jessa, and Mike's 53 00:03:14,653 --> 00:03:19,213 Speaker 3: recording Jessa because she sleep talks, but what he captures 54 00:03:20,013 --> 00:03:23,853 Speaker 3: is pretty creepy and haunting, and Jessa likes to sing 55 00:03:24,053 --> 00:03:30,253 Speaker 3: children's nursery rhymes as children's Jason Jason Yeah and wait, 56 00:03:30,413 --> 00:03:33,133 Speaker 3: no way, Jason works out. If you play them backwards, 57 00:03:33,293 --> 00:03:37,173 Speaker 3: you'll find there are some violent hidden messages, and as 58 00:03:37,253 --> 00:03:39,613 Speaker 3: the film goes on, there is some concern that they've 59 00:03:39,693 --> 00:03:44,373 Speaker 3: unleashed a demon. What is so this might sound quite familiar, 60 00:03:44,533 --> 00:03:46,813 Speaker 3: sort of quite a normal kind of horror set up, 61 00:03:47,333 --> 00:03:49,973 Speaker 3: but you know, they've just shot this really well. It's 62 00:03:50,093 --> 00:03:53,733 Speaker 3: all about space and sound, so the house makes it 63 00:03:53,973 --> 00:03:57,813 Speaker 3: the film feel quite claustrophobic. But the director is never 64 00:03:57,973 --> 00:04:01,013 Speaker 3: just taking a normal angle. There's always a shadow in 65 00:04:01,053 --> 00:04:03,653 Speaker 3: the background and you're waiting for something to appear, or 66 00:04:03,813 --> 00:04:07,413 Speaker 3: here's the angles they choose show you something else in 67 00:04:07,453 --> 00:04:09,293 Speaker 3: the house that you're going, what should I be paying 68 00:04:09,293 --> 00:04:12,093 Speaker 3: attention to? What's going to happen here? He just creates 69 00:04:12,173 --> 00:04:15,333 Speaker 3: this incredible tension through the angles that he chooses to 70 00:04:15,413 --> 00:04:20,173 Speaker 3: shoot this film. And then there's the sound. Obviously, being 71 00:04:20,213 --> 00:04:22,413 Speaker 3: a podcaster, a lot of this is about the sound 72 00:04:22,533 --> 00:04:26,133 Speaker 3: and things. But the music he uses and the way 73 00:04:26,213 --> 00:04:29,013 Speaker 3: he uses the sound on things or it's good, it's 74 00:04:29,053 --> 00:04:32,813 Speaker 3: pretty impressive. I'm going to be honest, it was a 75 00:04:32,853 --> 00:04:35,413 Speaker 3: little unsatisfying because it sort of ended and I was like, 76 00:04:35,533 --> 00:04:38,533 Speaker 3: hang on what Okay, hang on what's happened? And you 77 00:04:38,653 --> 00:04:42,173 Speaker 3: can interpret it your own way. And I like a 78 00:04:42,253 --> 00:04:44,173 Speaker 3: director who isn't afraid to kind of leave you a 79 00:04:44,213 --> 00:04:45,893 Speaker 3: little bit, you know, on the edge of your seat 80 00:04:45,893 --> 00:04:48,733 Speaker 3: scratching your head, going what. But I really I think 81 00:04:48,893 --> 00:04:51,133 Speaker 3: this is pretty classy and I'm really interested to see 82 00:04:51,173 --> 00:04:53,293 Speaker 3: what he does next. Oh great with a bigger budget. 83 00:04:53,573 --> 00:04:55,973 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, so that's undertone, Like you say, it 84 00:04:56,053 --> 00:04:57,613 Speaker 2: might be a bit scary for me. I just don't 85 00:04:57,693 --> 00:05:02,133 Speaker 2: like feeling anxious unnecessary. But a couple of points. First 86 00:05:02,173 --> 00:05:05,373 Speaker 2: of all, I do think that sound is the key 87 00:05:05,453 --> 00:05:06,253 Speaker 2: to a good horror film. 88 00:05:06,773 --> 00:05:10,093 Speaker 3: I think the audio, yeah, but not the obvious sound, 89 00:05:10,173 --> 00:05:13,813 Speaker 3: like there's a lot of no silence that you go, okay, 90 00:05:13,813 --> 00:05:16,213 Speaker 3: there's a jump right coming as a jump. They're setting 91 00:05:16,253 --> 00:05:18,973 Speaker 3: me up for it, tearing through your fingers. Actually, the 92 00:05:19,053 --> 00:05:20,413 Speaker 3: most fun I had at that film was there were 93 00:05:20,413 --> 00:05:22,493 Speaker 3: a couple of girls sitting along and ask with and 94 00:05:22,613 --> 00:05:24,533 Speaker 3: they were just laughing, giggling their way through the whole 95 00:05:24,573 --> 00:05:26,053 Speaker 3: thing to get rid of all the tension. And I 96 00:05:26,133 --> 00:05:28,293 Speaker 3: love that. I always love watching them watch the film. 97 00:05:28,733 --> 00:05:29,293 Speaker 3: I love the film. 98 00:05:30,093 --> 00:05:31,893 Speaker 2: And second of all, just horror is going through such 99 00:05:31,933 --> 00:05:35,693 Speaker 2: a moment right now, such moment it has been for 100 00:05:35,773 --> 00:05:36,293 Speaker 2: a while. 101 00:05:36,213 --> 00:05:38,693 Speaker 3: Now, and you know they're making money off them. And 102 00:05:38,973 --> 00:05:42,773 Speaker 3: here's another example. You can create a pretty clever, relatively 103 00:05:42,853 --> 00:05:45,733 Speaker 3: cheap film. Cross your fingers. I hope it becomes sort of, 104 00:05:45,813 --> 00:05:48,053 Speaker 3: you know, becomes a bit of a cult. And of 105 00:05:48,093 --> 00:05:50,453 Speaker 3: course we've seeing them recognize now the oscars. There's sort 106 00:05:50,493 --> 00:05:52,813 Speaker 3: of you know, they've grown up and being fully accepted 107 00:05:53,173 --> 00:05:55,133 Speaker 3: to the you know the big filmmakers. 108 00:05:55,253 --> 00:05:59,773 Speaker 2: We've got Robert England aka Free Krueger on this morning 109 00:05:59,853 --> 00:06:03,333 Speaker 2: as our ask him a little bit about that, right, 110 00:06:03,413 --> 00:06:06,933 Speaker 2: So that is undertone that showing in cinemas. Also showing 111 00:06:06,973 --> 00:06:09,533 Speaker 2: in cinema is something completely different the President's cake. 112 00:06:10,733 --> 00:06:12,813 Speaker 3: So I just loved this. This is a film from 113 00:06:12,853 --> 00:06:17,253 Speaker 3: a director Hassan Hadi. He is an Iraqi filmmaker. He 114 00:06:17,493 --> 00:06:20,053 Speaker 3: took this film to the Sundance Lab and there was 115 00:06:20,093 --> 00:06:22,933 Speaker 3: a lot of interest in it. He was actually somebody 116 00:06:23,213 --> 00:06:25,653 Speaker 3: people were actually offering to fully fund this film, but 117 00:06:25,733 --> 00:06:27,293 Speaker 3: it could not on the condition that it was not 118 00:06:27,373 --> 00:06:30,013 Speaker 3: shot in Iraq, and he turned them down and he 119 00:06:30,093 --> 00:06:32,973 Speaker 3: got some really good, big name sort of producers from 120 00:06:32,973 --> 00:06:34,933 Speaker 3: Hollywood behind them, and he went back to Iraq and 121 00:06:35,013 --> 00:06:37,133 Speaker 3: he managed to shoot this film. And I'm so grateful 122 00:06:37,173 --> 00:06:40,493 Speaker 3: he did, because this is a film that needs to 123 00:06:40,613 --> 00:06:43,693 Speaker 3: be seen within the community and the people and everything. 124 00:06:43,893 --> 00:06:47,373 Speaker 3: It's what makes this film. So the year is nineteen ninety, 125 00:06:50,573 --> 00:06:53,333 Speaker 3: the place is sort of descending into poverty. There's no 126 00:06:53,453 --> 00:06:56,453 Speaker 3: medicine basically because of the really strict ing sanctions which 127 00:06:56,493 --> 00:06:59,093 Speaker 3: have been put in place. But despite all this, Sadam 128 00:06:59,133 --> 00:07:02,493 Speaker 3: Hussein has required all citizens to celebrate his birthday. And 129 00:07:02,573 --> 00:07:06,253 Speaker 3: at a local school there is this very threatening form 130 00:07:06,493 --> 00:07:09,493 Speaker 3: soldier turned teacher and he makes the kids draw lots 131 00:07:09,533 --> 00:07:11,213 Speaker 3: to work out. He'll bring the juice and the fruit 132 00:07:11,253 --> 00:07:13,533 Speaker 3: for the celebration, and then one child gets the honor 133 00:07:13,533 --> 00:07:16,373 Speaker 3: of bringing a cake and it falls to this nine 134 00:07:16,453 --> 00:07:19,693 Speaker 3: year old girl, Lemea, and she basically lives in a 135 00:07:19,773 --> 00:07:22,933 Speaker 3: hut in the southern Marshes with her grandmother baby, and 136 00:07:23,053 --> 00:07:25,533 Speaker 3: they are poor and struggling and they really cannot make 137 00:07:25,693 --> 00:07:29,333 Speaker 3: ends meet. Let alone find that these ingredients and make 138 00:07:29,373 --> 00:07:31,333 Speaker 3: this cake, and we follow her golf on this journey. 139 00:07:31,813 --> 00:07:35,853 Speaker 3: It's presented in a documentary style, natural lighting, incredibly authentic 140 00:07:35,933 --> 00:07:39,413 Speaker 3: performances by pretty much an inexperienced class. They're all non actors, 141 00:07:40,493 --> 00:07:43,973 Speaker 3: And I just got taken into a place in a time, 142 00:07:44,773 --> 00:07:47,533 Speaker 3: and I was completely transported by this story and the 143 00:07:47,613 --> 00:07:50,653 Speaker 3: performances are absolutely fantastic. I just thought this was a 144 00:07:50,693 --> 00:07:53,373 Speaker 3: wonderful art house film, and I'm just so delighted that 145 00:07:53,493 --> 00:07:56,933 Speaker 3: he made it in his homeland, in the environment and 146 00:07:57,013 --> 00:08:00,373 Speaker 3: communities that he is telling us about and sharing their 147 00:08:00,413 --> 00:08:01,973 Speaker 3: experiences of living under a dictator. 148 00:08:02,053 --> 00:08:03,973 Speaker 2: Oh that's so good. Yeah, I've sent the trailer and 149 00:08:04,053 --> 00:08:07,453 Speaker 2: it does look really really special. So that's President's Cake 150 00:08:07,573 --> 00:08:10,253 Speaker 2: that showing in cinemas now. Francesca's first film, the horror, 151 00:08:10,413 --> 00:08:13,533 Speaker 2: is called Undertone, and all of the details for both 152 00:08:13,573 --> 00:08:15,853 Speaker 2: of those movies will be up at Newstalk, SHDB, dot co, 153 00:08:16,093 --> 00:08:16,733 Speaker 2: dot MZ. 154 00:08:17,613 --> 00:08:20,693 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 155 00:08:20,813 --> 00:08:23,973 Speaker 1: to News Talk SEDB from nine am Saturday, or follow 156 00:08:24,013 --> 00:08:25,573 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.