1 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Live Game. 2 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: Business. 3 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: It's the third of July twenty twenty four. Welcome all 4 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: you bespokey dokies to the Daily Bespoke Podcast. And today 5 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: we've got a big gift. We've got Iver Davies from 6 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Bloody Ice House. I A Davis, not Iver dv Okay, 7 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: it's not Iver Davis, No, it's IV Davis. I have 8 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: the idea what I was short for either of a 9 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: big dick. 10 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: That's heart good sounds like this of course electric blue 11 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: tune and then wounds like this. 12 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Bring it's the RNA. 13 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 4: Just one that is a good tune. Now one what 14 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: about this one across the water? 15 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: Have you got that one that goes we can get together? 16 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 5: Oh? 17 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 4: What's that called? 18 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 6: Gotta be please the mother by like you tune? 19 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: So you gotta beyond? What are we gonna talk about? 20 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Because first question surely has to be used to running 21 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: a mullett with her. But he's not fan in front 22 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: of you, now he's not. 23 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: Last time I saw you nineteen eighty nine, found as 24 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: there in Hamilton, you were rolling a mullett with a 25 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: fan with a billowy chiffon shirt hanging up with that. 26 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: You used to running out at your consorts. 27 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: Do you know my favorite I O song is that 28 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 4: nothing too serious one? But I don't have the hook 29 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: already loaded in, but you know the song goes nothing 30 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: to Yeah. I don't know why I love that tune 31 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: so much. That always plays at stadiums as well. Anyway, 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: shall we call them or what's the buz? 33 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Well, hang on a minute, We've got to address the 34 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: elephant in the room. The elephant in the room is 35 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: that we promised and people that listen to Jimmy Barnes 36 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: podcast will know that we promised to go live with 37 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: Ivor Davy worth a little diorama of our Davis Davis Davis. 38 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: Remember it's Davis with the little di roma of ice 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: house made out of our downstairs, right. Yeah, but we 40 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: would have done that, and so people that say the 41 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: well sell outs are not doing it. We would have 42 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: done that, except for the fact it's a phone call, 43 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: so we can't. It's not a zoom call. 44 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 4: Okay, it's good. 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 5: Okay. 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 4: If I always hard out at ten, apparently I's got 47 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: places to be, people to see, so I can just 48 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: all him up. Now, I shouldn't read real. 49 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: Name, Ivor Davis. Okay, that makes sense. It's not Ivor 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: at all. It's ivor Ivor. It's a Russian name, dangerously 51 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 3: long number. 52 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 4: I've got this right. 53 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: He does the sound trick for Master and Commander, Great movies. 54 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Know that I did not know that. Hello, Hell was 55 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: that ivy? 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 5: Hi Iver? 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: It's Matt and Jerry here from RADIOHKI. How are you good? 58 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: Thank you, we're already live and recording. 59 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 7: Ever, okay, no worries. 60 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: Thanks, thanks for joining us today, pleasure and doing our 61 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: deep amount of research for this interview. I realized that 62 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: you composed the soundtrack for Master and Commander. 63 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 7: Wow, okay, yes, I mean we know. 64 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: A lot about you, obviously, we know a lot about 65 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: your a lot about your songs. Grew up with your songs, 66 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: love Ice House, and have a huge appreciation for your 67 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: song writing ability. 68 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: But I didn't bloody know you did Master and Commander. 69 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, and it was a big thing. It was right 70 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 7: in the top of the A list Hollywood. The full 71 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 7: bells and whistles, you know, most famous orchestra recording studio 72 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 7: in the world. It's incredible, it's great fun and. 73 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: It's a fantastic movie. 74 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: The soundtrack sensational. 75 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 7: Well, it was, I mean, Peter, were was the director, 76 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 7: and you know, you'll know loads of his iconic films 77 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 7: and absolute joy to work with because he just knows 78 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 7: exactly what he wants. And you know, that was probably 79 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 7: one of the most heavily researched movies in terms of 80 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 7: being absolutely accurate to the period of the Napoleonic Wars, 81 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 7: which was said that in that period, and you know, 82 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 7: it was kind of epic every on every level. 83 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: Really, so iver when you go about writing the soundtrack 84 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: for something like Master and Commander, you obviously get the film. 85 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: You watch the film, absolutely you do. 86 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 7: And in fact, the the the editor of that, Peter 87 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 7: we Uses, is an Australian fellow who went on to 88 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 7: one win an Academy Award, and he work very closely 89 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 7: with the composition team, my technicians, and he also is 90 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 7: a kind of he is a music editor as well, 91 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 7: So while he was actually editing the movie and putting 92 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 7: it all together, he's putting together kind of temporary bits 93 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 7: of music which give us a guideline to what he's thinking, 94 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 7: what Peter Weir is thinking. It's a very collaborative process, really. 95 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I just watched interestingly a documentary on the 96 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: making this movie the other day, and you know they 97 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: built the ships exactly like they were. The details of 98 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: they built the two ships. They had the one out 99 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: on the water, they had they had Russell Crowe making 100 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: people introduced to each other by the rankings as they 101 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: were actors from the start. So you're coming on into 102 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: a situation like that. So are you bringing that idea 103 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: to the music that the music has to be right 104 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: for the time as well? 105 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 7: If you know what I'm saying, Well, we're part of 106 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 7: a music team. Was Richard Tonie and you'll probably know 107 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 7: him as being world class concert violinist and director of 108 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 7: the Australian Chamber Orchestra. Now his wealth of music of 109 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 7: knowledge is in period music and so he knew exactly 110 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 7: what it was. The two main characters, of course, the 111 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 7: Russell Crowe's characters, being the captain and the ship's doctor, 112 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 7: are very different people and that's part of the fun 113 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 7: of the movie is the relationship between these two because 114 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 7: they only get together really when they play music together, 115 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 7: and that's the kind of connection. And so there are 116 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 7: a lot of scenes in the movie where they had 117 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 7: to turn up in the captain's cabin, the doctor with 118 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 7: his cello and the Captain Russell Crowe with his violin. 119 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 7: Richard Tonietti was Russell Crowe's violin coach. I had to 120 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 7: learn how to play some of these pieces, believe it 121 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 7: or not, and the music for the period had to 122 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 7: be just exactly right. And that, of course is a 123 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 7: great asset in Richard Tanya's knowledge of all that period is. 124 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: That great line with the chief goes as they get 125 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: scratching and scratching a way and nothing you can dance to. 126 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: He's from the other room when he's hearing them play. 127 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: A lot of people probably won't know that about you either, 128 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: that you were classically trained, you were involved in orchestras 129 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: and then I think was it in your early twenties 130 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: maybe is it twenty one when you when you dropped 131 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: out of the New South Wales Conservative conservatorium of music 132 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: to start writing pop music. Well, looking now, obviously you 133 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: must listen to a lot of classical music now and 134 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: probably all genres of music. What do you what do 135 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: you currently listen to? 136 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 7: You're right, actually, you know music has worked for me, 137 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 7: so it's it's it's not the sort of thing where 138 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 7: I put on music sort of relaxed. I had a 139 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 7: girlfriend back in the early days, and she liked to 140 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 7: go to sleep with the radio on, and this was 141 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 7: absolute nightmare for me because of course I'd be sitting 142 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 7: there analyzing the songs and making notes for tomorrow's work 143 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 7: and so you know. So, but you know, as of 144 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 7: last night, for example, I was listening to Yo Hunsterbuskin Bark, 145 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 7: I was probably my favorite composer. And if I'm going 146 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 7: to put something on, I'll put on something from probably 147 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 7: the classical repertipe, because it's a fair distance away from 148 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 7: what I've been doing for the last forty years. Let's 149 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 7: face it, I don't you know, I don't put on 150 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 7: popular rock music because that's my work. But yes, by 151 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 7: going back to those early days, a very interesting relationship 152 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 7: because I was paying the rent partly with cleaning jobs, 153 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 7: but also very early on, once I dropped out of 154 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 7: the full time orchestra that I was principal Obo's I 155 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 7: believe it. I was actually principal burst of working orchestra. 156 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 7: And once I dropped out of that, I actually got 157 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 7: a job writing out music to all the songs that 158 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 7: were in the Australian charts. Because in those days you 159 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 7: had to produce a piece of sheet music to pass 160 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 7: on to APRA, which is the kind of copyright body 161 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 7: in Australia to register your songs. And as part of 162 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 7: that job, one of the publishing companies rang me up 163 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 7: and said, we'd like you to write the Cold Chisel Songbook. 164 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 7: And so I actually have in my possession a songbook 165 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 7: which I wrote the piano arrangements to which are probably 166 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 7: the a list of all the Cold Chisel hits that 167 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 7: you've ever listened to. And this of course brings us 168 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 7: around to the conversation that we're having about coming over 169 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 7: next year and playing. But I'll be able to remind 170 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 7: Jimmy and Don Wrger and whatever that I wrote their 171 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 7: songbook when I was around about well. 172 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: We had Jimmy Barnes on the show the other day 173 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: who was talking very highly of you, and you know 174 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: because we brought you up, because I mean I had 175 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: a spiritual experience when I first saw you play in 176 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine in New Zealand, and I was just 177 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: talking to one of the bosses that here, one of 178 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: the wider bosses in NZBA, and we said we're talking 179 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: to you, and he goes Founder's Theater nineteen eighty nine. 180 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: It was my first concert. It blew my freaking mind. 181 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: But you know it's interesting that, you know, because you know, 182 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: from the New Zealand perspective there's all these legendary Australian 183 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: bands that had the whole career. But you know, whenever 184 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: you talk to anyone of you is aways go Jimmy 185 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: Barnes Thus and he's like, I have a Davey's that. 186 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: So it's quite a small close community as well, isn't it. 187 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 7: Well, we when we were starting out, we were signed 188 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 7: to a management company. It was only a trio of 189 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 7: three managers and they were kind of maverick group of managers. 190 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 7: They'd broken away from the very big network of managers 191 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 7: in Australia and they could do that because they had 192 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 7: the two biggest bands in Australia by miles and they 193 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 7: were The Angels and Cole Chisel, and those two bands 194 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 7: are at their absolute peak and we were brand new 195 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 7: and so we were the little brothers. So we did 196 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 7: lots and lots of supports spots for both those bands, 197 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 7: but especially Cold Chisel, and so you know, we were 198 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 7: the newbies, so they were kind of big brothers to us. 199 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 7: And that's where the kind of weird special relationship comes from. 200 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 7: And people have said to me, oh, it must be 201 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 7: weird going on and supporting Colds, and I went, well, no, 202 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 7: we were doing that forty five years. 203 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: Ago, So well, I bet there was opening times for 204 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: you guys coming out being involved in that. You know 205 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: those guys, I mean legendary stories indeed. 206 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 7: Indeed, Yeah, yeah, so I look, you know, I'm a 207 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 7: huge fan, so you know I'll be side of stage 208 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 7: every night watching what the hell Ian Moss plays that 209 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 7: particular night, because he never plays the same thing twice. 210 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 7: So yeah, it'll be great fun. 211 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to take you back to that nineteen eighty 212 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: nine I Cell tour and that you that you had 213 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 3: three in New Zealand. I'm going to ask you a 214 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: question about the clothes that you're wearing at the time, 215 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: the haircut that you had, plus the fan that you 216 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 3: had situated just in front of you that was blowing 217 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: You're very very loose fitting what looked like possibly some 218 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: kind of chiffon shirt back. 219 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: And was that a decision of yours. 220 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 3: To have the fan that was blowing your hair back 221 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: or was that was that a management idea or is 222 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: that a wider band idea. 223 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 7: That is a purely practical stage and I still do that. 224 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 7: Have that fan there, Yeah, and it's the only way 225 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 7: that I'm kind of I've got any control over regulating 226 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 7: the temperature that's going on because we play in some 227 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 7: massively varied environments and if you're playing in a small 228 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 7: theater or even tighter than that, a small pub, it's 229 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 7: probably going to get incredibly hot. But then on the 230 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 7: other hand, if you're playing outside in a big open 231 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 7: air environment, then you know it's possibly going to get 232 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 7: very cold. And it's actually quite difficult to get that right. 233 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 7: But I have a relationship with my guitar tech who 234 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 7: is side stage, and I look at him and he 235 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 7: pointed the fan and turn it on. 236 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: It just so happened to look so good with because 237 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, you say, you say you're a classic change mission, 238 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: but you arrived as a fully formed rock star that 239 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: you know growing up in dun Eden where I did. 240 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: When you when you played, it was like it was 241 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: like nothing I'd ever seen before. It was it was 242 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: so rock and roll and so so glamorous, and yeah, 243 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: to burst the bubble. 244 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 7: It's all about. 245 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: So the fan will be on tour with you again. 246 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: With this this Greenstone Tour at Summer Concert to Tour 247 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. It's it's you, It's it's Cold Chisel, 248 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: it's bit Hunger and it's ever clear. It's going to 249 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: be a great three shows. 250 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, look and looking incredibly because every time, I mean, 251 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 7: New Zealand is such a great sort of joy to after. 252 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 7: I mean you take it for granted there because you 253 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 7: live there, but you know it's a beautiful place. And 254 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 7: we love coming to New Zealand and have done right 255 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 7: from the very beginning. And if you go tralling YouTube, 256 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 7: you'll find us in nineteen eighty playing at the Sweetwaters 257 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 7: Festival and oh wow, that was you know, that was 258 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 7: a real highlight for us because I don't think we've 259 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 7: ever been anywhere, so to arrive in New Zealand play 260 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 7: on a massive bill like that, and you'll find it 261 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 7: on that same bill we were supporting Golgers. 262 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: Oh wow, there we go. The circle of life. There's 263 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: the circle of life, isn't it. Iver Davies, thank you 264 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: so much for joining us on the Mat and Jerry Podcast. 265 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: It's been a great pleasure to talk to you. To 266 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you when you come over to 267 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: New Zealand. Yeah, me too, I see you then right, cheers, 268 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: thank you, Thanks mate, he's got a heart out. We've 269 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: told a ten heart out. 270 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: You look at that heart out and we are eighteen 271 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 3: seconds away. 272 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: From Shall we just take a quick break and then 273 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 4: come back with our debrief? 274 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: Actually got so much a depri I'm actually quite angry 275 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: with some of the stuff you said you. I don't 276 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: want to actually have a go at me full disclosure, 277 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: false drama created before their break. I don't have anything 278 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: to ever got that. I wish that we could have 279 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: talked for longer. I wish we could I mean, did 280 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: we ever get rid of because no one came on 281 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: and said hard out? We were just told it hard out. 282 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: You don't know we were going to get This is 283 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: the thing that you guys don't get exposed to as 284 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: we to text and emails, get out throughout interviews. 285 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: Can you hurry get out and don't get out get 286 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: exposed to it. I was just sitting on the phone 287 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: with the throat cutting these guys. 288 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: Two miss calls from Ruda at home. 289 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: I hate these guys. Get I'm sick of talking about 290 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: what fascinated what's fascinating to me. I just looked into 291 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: I saw it into the brain of Ivor Davies there 292 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: and a whole lot of realizations came to me. One 293 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: was that that, unfortunately because we didn't have enough time, 294 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: we can get into. But one of those things was 295 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: when you are a musician, and I've spoken to guys 296 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: in the New Zealand Sophie Orchestra about this, when you're 297 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: a really, really big time musician who's grown up with 298 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: music all their lives and studied music and stuff, music, 299 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: you don't, it becomes a different thing. So you actually 300 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: kind of hate it, yeah, because it's constantly you can't 301 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: listen to anything it's shop talk without just going into 302 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: the rhythm of it, the tempo of it, the way 303 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: that it's been resolved, and then you can't you can't 304 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: help but think, oh, if only they had have done this. 305 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: And so he that was interestingly saying that he couldn't 306 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: listen to music with his girlfriend because he just can't. 307 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: He can't just have it wash over him. 308 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: He's right in it, Mash, would it kill you to 309 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: whip up? We can we can get together? Oh, I 310 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: can find blust at as we talk. 311 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: About it in the background and It also made me 312 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 3: realize there's classically trained all of ice House's hurts. They 313 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: have a beautiful resolve on the particularly on the choruses. 314 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: Well you gotta me crazy baby to love a girl 315 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: like me. The keys up there going higher, I did crazy. 316 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 6: That's an amazing change wherever the way it left us 317 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 6: walking upstairs that song. Yeah, so that's going down the 318 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 6: stairs and then it goes back up the stairs. 319 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: That's why it's so pleasing. Let you gotta we can 320 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: get together and up up your as mechigan. 321 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 4: I don't know if I do. 322 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: We can get together, can you? 323 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 4: You might have to fire that off your computers. 324 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we just played one sometimes. 325 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it just went on recording. I don't have excess. 326 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mane and I never got under it. 327 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 3: Because he plays the bloody Bear big pipes, he plays 328 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: the obo, he plays the English horn, he plays a clarinet, 329 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 3: he plays keyboards. That guy I have a Davies I'm 330 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: calling musical genius. Oh he's undoubtedly j Yeah, I mean, 331 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: listen to this tune. Listen to this junior. This is 332 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: a freaking tune. It sounds like mesh pumping away. 333 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: That's not fast. Yeah, he goes, fine, Oh, this is 334 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: a churn. This is a freaking chune. This is early 335 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: on in their career. 336 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: This is a dancing little number, is not there. He's 337 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: coming out the back after disco. I know he's been 338 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 3: listening to their D Bowie D Bowie and Roxy music. 339 00:18:48,760 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 2: Ah yeah, pick up sticks is a good line. It's 340 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: such a good song. 341 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 5: You gotta wait for the chorus. 342 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: Now you know what he means when he goes, you 343 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: know that line. The song goes, you can pick up 344 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: my sticks, you can back up my shoe. You know 345 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: he's talking about He's talking about pick up sticks and 346 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm foxing a shoe. 347 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 5: Here he go, he goes the chorus. It's a lot 348 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 5: of bari there. 349 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 4: I think it was over David. I saw an interview 350 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 4: with him be having done once and he was talking 351 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 4: about his songwriting. And I could be completely wrong here, 352 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 4: but he said that what he does the song is 353 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: he'll start with the chorus and then turn that chorus 354 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: into the first verse. Ah yeah, so just goes. You 355 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 4: just make sure that this first verse is the catches 356 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 4: fucking thing that he can possibly come up with, and 357 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 4: then he'll go and actually write a chorus and don't borrow. 358 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: Write a period. Yeah, don't borrows. Get to the chorus exactly. 359 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: So he writes a whole bunch of choruses and then 360 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 4: shoves that at the beginning of the song because every 361 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 4: apparently every part of the song, according to other Davies, 362 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 4: should be of course, it should be worthy of a chorus. 363 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: Catchy, that's a really good point. Can fire off, just randomly, 364 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: fire off? I see how song? How it starts? 365 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 4: Okay, shy thing, I can start one? 366 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: Oh you can't start? 367 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 4: Well, you should start one? 368 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: Fire one and and and and just a random one. Okay, okay, okay, 369 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: here we go. I've still got the other one playing 370 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: running situation. Okay, there we go. 371 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: I mean this might completely debang my theory. 372 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: Don't wake me tonight before I go. I'm about to 373 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: take one more request on this video. It's over Davy 374 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: pretending to be a you're on the radio host in 375 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: the video. Oh that's great, good morning. Do you mind 376 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: if I work you tonight that you request? Use mate? 377 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 7: Well, you play crazy for me? Right? 378 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: Sad? 379 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 6: What song? 380 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: Moody? I've got a pocus. 381 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: Hello. 382 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: Okay, So chick chorus, And he's now drawing into the 383 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: ny for what's this woman? Who's rung? I'm on the 384 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: radio for the rainbow. 385 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 4: I'm in a different song. If this is the chorus. 386 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: Guys, here you guys. 387 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 5: Roving with the woman the one? 388 00:21:59,480 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 7: Here we are. 389 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 8: Where you gotta be crazy? 390 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: How he's gonna take say that you've gotta here, You've 391 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: gotta be your man. 392 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 3: Crazy? 393 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: Don't we use it as we run this as a man? 394 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: Jerry sting that way? 395 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: If I can find that, you can get that us 396 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 4: jerm Okay, what one is it going to be? 397 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: Called? 398 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: Crazy? Icehound? There we go you ready go? Here we go, 399 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: here we get ready ready, ready, here we go, here 400 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: we got. 401 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 6: Well, it's gotta be mad and jailry oh read hold 402 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 6: key hold on weekday morning some. 403 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: Six until night. Listen, Jerry, you should have played it 404 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: to either fun. 405 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: It should have played an ivy mesh, yeah, applied to Eiva. 406 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: That's not my get it back on the line. 407 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 4: I also noticed you guys didn't ask him about you 408 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 4: guys didn't end up doing the thing with you downstairs 409 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: and the bush hanging out the top of your pants. 410 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: And I personally hadn't trimmed my pub so I could 411 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: belong the fan with the hairback. I felt disrespectful, did 412 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: you Yeah? 413 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 4: I mean there's classic you guys, isn't it. As you've 414 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 4: got your come in cock of a hope, confidence through 415 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 4: the roof and then you actually have to talk to 416 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: the person. 417 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: He's so much greater in New Zealander than I thought 418 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: he was. And I thought he was. I thought he's 419 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: going to be a great New Zealander. I mean, the 420 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: guy is just squeezing out the theme to Master and Commander, 421 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies of all time. I freaking 422 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: love that movie and it's so gutting because the Pirates 423 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: of the Caribbean. Russell Crow spitting to this day because 424 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: that those movies should have gone forever. My dad reads 425 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: all the books because it's hundreds of books, but it's 426 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: amazing to Pirates of the Caribbean came out just before 427 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: Master and Commander, so the movie company decided to advertise 428 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: Master and Commander like it was Pirates of the Caribbean 429 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: with the stupid Johnny Depp running around pretending to be 430 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: bloody Captain Jack Sparrow and the bloody Keith Richards. And 431 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: then the movie came out and it was actually a 432 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: really high quality movie that should have won Oscars, but 433 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: it kind of tanked at the box office because people 434 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: like people were like where the Fox Pilot through here Aban, 435 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: But it has had such a huge renaissance in that movie. 436 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: It's so loved over time, and it's because it's a 437 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: movie about male relationships, and there's not a lot of 438 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: movies about that. I mean, because there's no females in 439 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: that movie at all, except for at one point where 440 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: they're picking up some supplies and they see a woman 441 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: in a boat. Apart from that, it's just completely about 442 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: male relationships. So a lot of men lean into that movie. 443 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: But fucking great movie. Great movie is there? Do you 444 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: know who that's based on? Joseph Banks and Captain? Those 445 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: two characters. Yeah, would it have killed them? Would it 446 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: have killed us to talk to Iver Davies about the 447 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: Needen line? Should it could have? Would? 448 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm realizing about these Aussie acts 449 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 4: that kind of were making a lot of money from 450 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 4: the pub scene and that kind of seventy to eighties 451 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 4: nineties is every single one of them are just great people. 452 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 4: Because yeah, I assume it required some level of self 453 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 4: awareness and just being okay with who you are doing 454 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 4: all those kinds of gigs for so long, you know, 455 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 4: they're just seems like there's a massive scene going on 456 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 4: in the music of music of kind of New Zealand 457 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 4: and Australia where it's just you know, you just go 458 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 4: around pubs and playing all the time. 459 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 3: I think as well, they made a bit more money 460 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: than the New Zealand ones. True, but they like he 461 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: would have done pretty well over Davies over time. 462 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 463 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: Oh well yeah, especially when you went men are colors. 464 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 4: They're just always so nice, these people that just went around, Yeah. 465 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: They are exactly. I think you're right. I think there's 466 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: a humbling of you because you have to go and 467 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: play mining towns. Yeah, and you have to you have 468 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: to have your like an excess, you know, cultures or 469 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: all these bands, the Angels, all those os rock bands, 470 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: they had to have their fricking chops. You you had to. 471 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: You had to have your chops at a band and 472 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: as a band like you didn't anywhere else in the 473 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: world because you you would night out, night and night 474 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: out going to these small towns in one hundred and 475 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: fifty fifteen hundred people, one thousand people. Yeah, and if 476 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: you didn't have your chops. You were in trouble and 477 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: that's why you had to chop wood at the back. 478 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that as well they got better. 479 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: They got better because they're playing with each other, they're 480 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 3: probably listening to each other. 481 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: Well, that's a problem for New Zealand bands because they Auckland. 482 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: Play about two shows in Auckland. Then you go down 483 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: to Hamilton. No one turns up to that show. Then 484 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: you're down at the Mount. A couple of people turn 485 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: up to that show, a. 486 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: Couple of parents with that. Yes, a couple of months 487 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 4: and days. 488 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 3: Try and play a show and get on the glass 489 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: barbecue through and you got to try and do a 490 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 3: couple of shows coming down off the glass barbecue. 491 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: Play Wellington and actually some people turn up in Wellington. 492 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: Then there's a long way you have to go. You 493 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: try and play Nelson, no one turns out. You're going 494 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: to get on the cock straight fery. There is a problem. 495 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: Then you're down in christ Church, people turn up the 496 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: egg Sailing. You go to Dneden and this is the 497 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: problem that tours have. Then they have to get all 498 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: the way back and there's no gigs to play on 499 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: the way back. But the circular nature of Australia means 500 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: you just can go on the road and you can 501 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 1: actually you can actually do a tour because you can 502 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: do ten shows and different places of Sydney. You can 503 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: playing manly mate, playing alright. 504 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 4: House came down here and we were just seing them 505 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 4: up back up through a groymouth like they wouldn't come 506 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 4: out of life. Yeah that's the only way, isn't it. 507 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: Really? What Daja Voodo asually happened was they tour on 508 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: the road, but I'd fly between places. I'd meet the 509 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: band in different places and they'd drive in the band 510 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: be increasingly angry at me. Just skip the coast because 511 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not going on the fucking fairy mate. 512 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got to get I've got to get 513 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: back to I've got a pitic here on Auckland. 514 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 4: Who did we have that got over to that? I 515 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: was rock pub scene with the crowded house about it? 516 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know there were a few the dudes. 517 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 4: My dudes got over there. 518 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: My six, My six did he smash did a bit 519 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: of time over there. 520 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 5: My six. 521 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: Are you familiar with my six? My six are a gros. 522 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 3: Push pushment over They did one, they did a tour 523 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: and then Mike realized Mikey realized that he didn't even 524 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: want to do that. 525 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: I can imagine there was quite a lot of that 526 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 4: going on as people thought that there was just going 527 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 4: to be fascinating, amazing kind of expert sperience and people 528 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 4: they're just gonna be woman everywhere and all that kind 529 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 4: of thing. 530 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: But I think there was that, but I think they did. 531 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: They were quite big, push push, quite big in Australia. 532 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: There so this is this is a New Zealand band 533 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: that made it in Australia. Computer Games, My Sex. I 534 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: know this song? 535 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, my bad. 536 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: They accused Blue are roopping the song off? Oh yeah, yeah, 537 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: there it is. I mean, is that the one they 538 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: say they ripped off? 539 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 6: No? 540 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: I think it's another one they reckon, Blue rapped off. 541 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: But this is a fucking great song. I still love 542 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: the song so much when I was a kid. This 543 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: is my Sex. This is a huge hit in Australia. 544 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: You know the song Jeremy not so far. I'm amazed 545 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: that we're artists and using like a right songs. That's good. 546 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 4: Oh live the bongo back there there we go. 547 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: It's a very sad song so Australia. So the New 548 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: Zealand means that went over there about it. They became 549 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: very Australian. I used to listen to the song over 550 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: and over again. It's hard to believe. Every day. Okay, 551 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about my own life. Things should be. 552 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 4: I see why you listen to this? 553 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you. 554 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: Resolves nicely all the time, the shadows. 555 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: Here we go. So this is my sis. 556 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 6: It's just. 557 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Dragon made it really huge over there. 558 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: Ah. 559 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,479 Speaker 4: Yes, Dragon's another one. 560 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: Noise Works, but that was just really our boy in 561 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: front of it, an Australian man. 562 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 4: I saw Dragon at the Vicagle Town Hall not that 563 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: long ago, part of their fiftieth anniversary tour. I think 564 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 4: it was in Mark Williams. Do you know Mark Williams? 565 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: Yeah he was, He now saying he's now the lead 566 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 4: singer for Dragon. 567 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: So Mark Williams was noise Works, isn't he? 568 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 6: No? 569 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 4: So that's John Stevens, John Stevens, So make Williams is 570 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 4: another one, but he came out. Do you know the 571 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: song Mercy Mercy? It's an absolute tune that I have 572 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 4: to play in this episode. All right, be absolutely gutted. 573 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: Okay, can we get over Dave's back on the line 574 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: and ask him some of those questions. 575 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 4: I mean, no, I think he's gone. 576 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: Now he's gone again. 577 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 4: We got the heart out for Mercy, Mark. 578 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: Isn't it funny? Like being hard out means that you're 579 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: really going to go for it, But a hard out 580 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: means you're really not going to go for it, doesn't it. 581 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: That's weird, isn't it? It is weird? Okay, what do 582 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: you got Mercy? 583 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 7: You no? 584 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 4: Just right now, just trying to skip over a copper 585 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 4: kettle ad with Jason Hoyt voicing it, so we don't 586 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: want that. Yeah, he's caught the end of that prega. 587 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is Mark Williams shoon, no Mercy. It's 588 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 4: an absolute tune. But now he's singing for dragon. 589 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: Oh that that's the Young Tears for Fears Baseline. 590 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 5: Shure Mercy lemsy, Oh that you got you got again? 591 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: Shure, no Mercy. 592 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 9: It's about sex ustrangulation, isn't it. It feels a little 593 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 9: bit like that. It's about a Peter funny Walker situation. 594 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 9: This song just grows and grows for four and a 595 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 9: half minutes. By the end of it, Oh, this is 596 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 9: two Cutters forty five and. 597 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: Now sure mercy sure, mercy me, sure. 598 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: Do you jerymmy sr Miles away suck the life out 599 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 3: of me with that song that you were playing before. 600 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: I switched off at that point. 601 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll let Mark Williams is Jersey up again. Here, mate, 602 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 4: you're there, he goes anyway, he's singing for Dragon. 603 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 5: Now. 604 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: Who was that bloody key we check that went over there? 605 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: Fucking she used to make love to Bloody that actor? Nah, mate, 606 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: She the guy that had his cock out at the 607 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: start of the Quiet Earth, Bruno Lawrence Lord, Bruno Lawrence's 608 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: girlfriend Joe Cotton. No, I think he was cheating on 609 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: her with his wife Jenny. And she sang that song 610 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: Lawrence broke Fraser. She Oh fuck. She was a big 611 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: and Neil Finn would write her songs for her. She 612 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: was big like fat, No she was. She was beautiful 613 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: and then she was a big hat over there. I 614 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: feel like her name started with Jenny, not Jenny Morris. 615 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: Was it Jenny Morris? Jenny Morris. There was definitely a 616 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: song called Jenny Morris. And did she have a song 617 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: about change in the weather. Yeah, that was a breaking 618 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: the weather and body Bardy in Soul last. 619 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 4: Lasted, Buddy and soul think about. 620 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: Crank it h crank it hoty. So this is another 621 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: key with that did the odd circuit? Here you go, 622 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: here we go. Crank and hotty? 623 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 5: Is it? 624 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: And suboncious? I won't speaking out a term when I 625 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: said that she made love to Bruno Lawrence. 626 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: About fine, she's real hot. 627 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 4: It's a bit pots and pansy for me, buddy, and 628 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 4: so it's good. 629 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: It's very Australian. That's very Australia. 630 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 4: What happened? Did Monte Verdeo even make it over? 631 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 1: What's the shoot? I again? 632 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 3: He did go over to Sydney for a while, Mary Grinley. 633 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 3: That's kind of where he learn part of his trade 634 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 3: is playing in the cross for a while. And then 635 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 3: they came back with shoop ship did he What did 636 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: you like this. 637 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: Song from Gimmy Morris? This was written by Neil Phone. 638 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: This was another hats It's quite great of ours, isn't it? 639 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: Ye? 640 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 4: All right? 641 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: Religion okay, he goes into the religion category. Yeah, what 642 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 1: a great great man. I mean, it was only about 643 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: one eighth of their podcast, but that's right, that's all right, Okay, 644 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: going back to the hunt day calendar. 645 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 8: Now, okay, see you later, alright, okay, all right then 646 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 8: all right, okay then oh yay, Hello, I'm Matt Heath. 647 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: You have been listening to the Matt and Jerry Daily 648 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: Bespoke podcast. 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