1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: which you get the answers, find a fact and give 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: the analysis. Here the duplicy el and Drive with One 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile news doorgs 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Envy Afternoon. 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Big changes are coming to help speed up building consents. 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: The government says councils are extremely risk averse because they 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: carry the ultimate risks. So to get things cranking, they've 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: decided to make each party of the building process responsible 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: for their fair share of work. Chris Pink is the 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: Building and Construction minister down with us now, hey, Chris hever? 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: So basically, the builders responsible if the building stuff goes, 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: it's up. The sparky's responsible if the sparky stuff does 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: the same thing. 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And I'll just add a near. If the 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: council signs off something that they shouldn't have, then they'll 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: be responsible for us share, but not the whole thing, 18 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: which is what currently happens. 19 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: Now. 20 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: What happens, for example, if the roofer does a bad 21 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: job on the roofing and they are obviously responsible for that, 22 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: but in they'll let the water in and then the 23 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: floor gets done and the job work gets done, and 24 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: that's the builder's work. Who's responsible for all of that? 25 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: Then well, if there's a fault that's taken place in 26 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: one part of the system, in fact ruins the work 27 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: of someone else, but that second person wasn't responsible because 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: they should have had the right to expect that the 29 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: roof wouldn't leak in the first place. Then it wouldn't 30 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: be for the person who's made no real world error 31 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: to be responsible. It would be on who's actually made the. 32 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: Cock up and what happens if the building company or 33 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 2: any of these companies falls over, which happens all the time, Chris, 34 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: who do you chase them? 35 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well that's why we have seen today that we're 36 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 3: going to have consumer protection measures in place, and there 37 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: are some already that exists out there, so it's a 38 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: matter of thinking about what ones we need to be 39 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: available or maybe even mandatory. So you got professional and 40 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: dimnity insurance for engineers and architects. You've got then master 41 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: builders and certified builders have their own guarantee schemes, and 42 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: then you've got group home builders who've got their own 43 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: comfort that they provide to their frenchise customers. So there 44 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: all kinds of possibilities and we'll get that detail right 45 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: by talking with the sector. 46 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: Now, hold on, but why haven't you done that? Because 47 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: in April last year you told us you were working 48 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 2: on in dimnity insurance and it's now, what like nearly 49 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: eighteen months later, you've done nothing. 50 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Now we've spent the time talking with the sector 51 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: and including councils but also the building professionals about whether 52 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: we should go to proportionate liability, which is the change 53 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: we've announced today, along with some other stuff by the way. 54 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: But now we'll be able to get that legislated and 55 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: in the meantime spend detail. Spend time getting that detail 56 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: right about what those measures should be. I've got a 57 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 3: reasonable idea. Because Cabinet hasn't yet signed those off I 58 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: can't tell you that that's what will definitely be in place. 59 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 2: All right, Hey, Chris, Thanks very much, Chris Pink, Building 60 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: and Construction Minister. 61 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: For more from hither Douplassy Allen Drive listen live to 62 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 63 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.