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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at BND. Your weekend off the right way.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with jackdam News.

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Speaker 3: Yard to New Zealand. Good morning, Welcome to news doorks

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Speaker 3: EDB Jack Tame with you through the midday Today. Downtown

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Speaker 3: Abbey is finally reaching its conclusion. The finale, The Grand

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Speaker 3: Finale is coming out in cinemas. We're going to catch

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Speaker 3: up with our film reviewer before ten o'clock to get

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Speaker 3: her thoughts on that. And you know, the green bit

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Speaker 3: at the top of leaks, that bit that you can't

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Speaker 3: off and always throw away you shouldn't be. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: share with you some top tips from our cook before

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Speaker 3: ten on what to do with the green bit at

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Speaker 3: the top of the league. I'm not even sure I

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Speaker 3: knew you could eat that is that bad? And I've

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Speaker 3: eat your interview after ten o'clock this morning. Key We

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Speaker 3: author legendary key We author Elizabeth Knox, she of Vintner's Luck,

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Speaker 3: is going to be with us. She's got a brand

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Speaker 3: new book. This book, though, is written for young readers,

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Speaker 3: you know, twelve thirteen year olds. It's kind of dark,

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Speaker 3: which is really interesting. But she's gonna be with us

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Speaker 3: after ten o'clock this morning with a few more details

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Speaker 3: on that. Right now, it's eight minutes past nine, Jack

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Speaker 3: d tell you what, when I saw the latest migration

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Speaker 3: statistics this week and the net forty seven thousand New

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Speaker 3: Zealand citizens who had decided to move overseas in the

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Speaker 3: last year, I had an instantaneous reaction. You sure about that,

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Speaker 3: I wondered. I mean, hey, I know our economy isn't

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Speaker 3: exactly thriving right now, but just out of interest, merely

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Speaker 3: out of interest, have you you know any news headlines lately?

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Speaker 3: Israel had just bombed Katar, Russian drones were being shot

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Speaker 3: down in Poland, the British government was in disarray, and

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Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk had just been assassinated. Put it this way,

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Speaker 3: a sustained economic malaise isn't half as bad as some

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Speaker 3: of the other problems facing the world right now. You

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Speaker 3: know how when there's a really big news event, how

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Speaker 3: it's kind of human nature, it's all anyone wants to

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Speaker 3: talk about. As terrible a week as it has been

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Speaker 3: for the world, it has been even worse on social media.

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Speaker 3: A great week, Nay a vintage week for really really

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Speaker 3: bad takes. Tom Phillips is a prime example to think

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Speaker 3: even for a moment that a man who has been

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Speaker 3: using his children in armed robberies, who has deprived them

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Speaker 3: of any outside connections or formal education, who's kept them

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Speaker 3: in horrible, cod dirty conditions, and then ultimately expose them

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Speaker 3: to a police shootout. To think for a moment that

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Speaker 3: that guy is misunderstood or is some kind of hero,

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Speaker 3: shows our species perhaps isn't as advanced as we would

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Speaker 3: all like to think. And then the Charlie Kirk assassination,

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Speaker 3: my goodness, who would have thought it was possible? But

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Speaker 3: it may have been even worse. At least the takes

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Speaker 3: were His killing really affected me. I've been following Charlie

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Speaker 3: Kirk for years. In fact, I actually saw him speak

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Speaker 3: in person in the US at what was kind of

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Speaker 3: a seminal event in his life. So it was back

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Speaker 3: at the Republican Convention in twenty sixteen, and he did

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Speaker 3: a big presentation on stage. His assassination has been one

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Speaker 3: of those moments in which it feels like we are

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Speaker 3: watching a global superpower decline in real time, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. And then there was the video everywhere,

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Speaker 3: multiple angles of a father being shot in the throat

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Speaker 3: in front of his family, reposted, retweeted, re upped, the

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Speaker 3: algorithm feeding a bloodlust, and then again, of course, the predictable,

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Speaker 3: profound division, incredible bad faith takes on both sides of

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Speaker 3: a political chasm, people openly celebrating his murder, others conveniently

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Speaker 3: forgetting the ways in which they have excused or minimized

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Speaker 3: or ignored political violence in the recent past. I really

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Speaker 3: think social media is responsible for some of the worst

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Speaker 3: aspects of our fraying world. It just takes the worst

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Speaker 3: parts of our nature as a species and then acts

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Speaker 3: as a force multiplier, don't you think. And yet, and

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Speaker 3: yet it still retains the capacity every now and then

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Speaker 3: world ended with a little bit of goodness last night

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Speaker 3: on the Golden Bay Community notice Board facebook page. If

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Speaker 3: Facebook page, fair to say it has a diverse range

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Speaker 3: in July, if it rainfall at the top of the

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Speaker 3: South Island dislodged a bench from its spot next to

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Speaker 3: the Tarcica River. And for those of those of you

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Speaker 3: near Paines Forward when you're just coming into Tarcica having

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Speaker 3: a bench made of heavy timber, beautifully crafted to remember

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Speaker 3: a young man named Jack who passed back in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: But yesterday my mum forded a post on Facebook through

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Speaker 3: to the Tame family chat. Jack's bench had been found

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Speaker 3: after being swept away in the flooding. It had traveled

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Speaker 3: the six or seven kilometers down the Tarkica River and

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Speaker 3: then into the ocean into Golden Bay proper, and then

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Speaker 3: over the space of two months, the bench had somehow

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Speaker 3: navigated the roughly one hundred and sixty kilometers from the

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Speaker 3: river mouth across cooked straight, somehow got round Durville Island

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Speaker 3: to wash up, albeit with a few barnacles on why

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Speaker 3: can I beach on the carpety coast Kevin Milne Country?

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Speaker 3: But how how to get Jack's bench back home? After

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Speaker 3: such an epic journey. I'll do it free of charge.

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Speaker 3: Just get in touch, said someone called Steve on Facebook.

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Speaker 3: A little faith in the world restored, jackdam ninety two

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Speaker 3: ninety two is our text number if you want to

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Speaker 3: send us a message this morning, Jacket Newsill, SAIDB dot

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Speaker 3: co dot zaid's the email address. I don't know. It

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Speaker 3: just feels like a Saturday morning for a bit of escapism,

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Speaker 3: don't you think, just a little bit of escapism given

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Speaker 3: the last couple of days. So we're going to try

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Speaker 3: and work out how to how to navigate our viewing

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Speaker 3: habits this evening with the Warriors kicking off at six

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Speaker 3: the Orbacks just after seven. Our Sporto will be in

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Speaker 3: very shortly. Kevin Melon's going to kick us off for

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Speaker 3: our Saturday morning together next though. Right now it's thirteen

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Speaker 3: past nine. It's Saturday morning. I'm Jack Tame. This is

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Speaker 3: news Talk, said.

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Speaker 1: By No better way to kick off your weekend than

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Speaker 1: with Jack.

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Speaker 2: Saturday Morning with Jack. Team news Talk, said B.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen plast nine. On your Saturday morning, Jack, such a

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Speaker 3: relief to hear editorial full of human empathy and nuance

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Speaker 3: this morning. It feels increasingly rare Thank you ninety two

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Speaker 3: ninety two if you want to send us a message

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Speaker 3: this morning. Kevin Melnis kicking us off for our Saturday.

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Speaker 3: He to Kevin Cuder.

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Speaker 4: Jack, I love that story about the wooden bench, and

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Speaker 4: you're right, I mean so so it ended up on

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Speaker 2: But what a.

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Speaker 4: Wonderful thing that a woman who first saw it sort

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Speaker 4: of raised the alarm. Yeah, this is important because it

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Speaker 4: may have only been there for a beach before a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, there was nothing to say

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Speaker 3: that the journey would have ended there if people hadn't

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Speaker 3: stepped in. Yeah, it is an amazing story. It's one

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Speaker 3: Mount Tartanucky and we were like no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: Mount Tartanucky. We got out of a little telescope and yep,

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Speaker 3: it was Mount Tartanucky. And it's very easy to forget

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Speaker 3: of the lower part of the North Island. Right, So yes,

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Speaker 3: bench has Actually it's gone down the Tarcica River, it's

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Speaker 3: albeit slowly, right across Cook straight as opposed to going north.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's an amazing journey. It's such a good story.

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Speaker 5: So, yes, a great story.

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Speaker 4: And because we sit in our house here and walk

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Can you see Deval Island?

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Speaker 5: Yes, very well.

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Speaker 4: That last night was a cracker night for Derval Island

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Speaker 4: and then Stephens Island on top of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh how good? Are you very lucky? Kevin? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I thought it would be making making a bit of

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Speaker 4: You learn new things every time you travel, and what

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Speaker 4: better way to book your flights. As you know, you

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Speaker 4: book a flight within New Zealand. If you go to London,

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Speaker 4: airline will take over on their aircraft and fly from

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Speaker 4: Singapore onto London. We had a magnificent flight on the

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Speaker 4: New Zealand's aircraft, the Dreamliner.

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Speaker 4: In New Zealand, with the best airline by miles, terrific

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Speaker 4: But when we switched to Singapore Airlines to flight it

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Speaker 4: old Triple sevens with scruffy furnishings, outdated screens, etc. And

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Speaker 4: Same coming back from London to Hong Kong with Cathay Pacific,

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Speaker 4: A tired old Trouble seven. Again no excitement on board.

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Speaker 4: So what I learned was that when you're booking long

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Speaker 4: were on Dreamliners all the way. Cathay PACIFICA I don't

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Speaker 4: And the final thing, Jack, I intentionally booked daytime flights

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Speaker 4: as much as possible. I liked flying with the sun

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Speaker 6: About, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: Because don't they say the best the best thing to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are you hitt into the game tonight?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's going to be so exciting.

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Speaker 3: So, well, what are you going to do for the Warriors.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that this might be the end of it for them.

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Speaker 3: We'll see. Come on, come on, kid, what on earth

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Speaker 3: We'll be thinking of you tonight, looking for you in

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 3: I'm a local white and I beat such a great

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised at your comments regarding social media, as if

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Speaker 3: Jack, thank you for kicking off our day with such

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't know how lucky you are for your

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Speaker 6: for sport, that's for sure. The Warriors, can they do it?

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Speaker 6: Great game last night Melbourne storm over the Bulldogs. Yeah

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Speaker 6: nice syllergy There William Warbrook, who used to play for

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Speaker 6: of course, makes his All Blacks debut in Wellington on

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Speaker 6: six o'clock kickoff. They've got to start as chance. If

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Speaker 6: they were at full strength, if they had metcalf for

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Speaker 6: Mitch Barnett, you'd give them more of a chance than that.

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Speaker 6: But this Penrith team has been they had done that

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Speaker 6: and it's very very good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're very good. It's going to be tricky.

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Speaker 6: That Worries have to play the game of their lives

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Speaker 3: They do. They got a chance. So what do you

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Speaker 3: make of that call on the wing with Rika? You

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Speaker 6: Interesting? I think look through Rico Juan he's doing some

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Speaker 6: to show glimpses at Test level at center. He didn't

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Speaker 6: have a great season for the Blues. Yes, so I

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Speaker 6: he enjoys playing wing anymore. He started at his Test

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Speaker 6: interesting to see Rico you on he dropped Leroy Carter

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Speaker 6: The South Africans will Pepperam. I'd say they'll challenge him.

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Speaker 6: Intriguing decision at nine. With Noah Hopam coming back from injury.

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Speaker 6: I thought they might have still started with fin Lake

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Speaker 6: remains to be seen those selection decisions whether they'll work

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Speaker 6: it's basically going to have to lift again, lift big time.

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Speaker 6: The South Africans will respond and they don't have that

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Speaker 3: Okay, I've got one tactical question. I feel like there

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Speaker 3: many box kicks? I know that doing so many box kicks,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, guys, what are we doing. We've got the ball,

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Speaker 3: we're holding the ball, like, let's let's run it. Let's

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Speaker 3: try something else. Box kick, lose position? What is that

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Speaker 3: Here we go again. I just I was losing my

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Speaker 6: Like what, yeah, that I mentioned you before. The best

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Speaker 6: the The old adage and rugby always used to be

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Speaker 6: I think the All Blacks were better under the ball

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and if you camp down under pressure and you're

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Speaker 6: don't kick it to the to the to the opposition.

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Speaker 6: The other thing is jack that a year ago there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very quickly. Can you what do we understand about

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Speaker 3: There's been so little reporting that there's so little clarity

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Speaker 6: I think until we hear from the Players Association number

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Speaker 6: I think this is the issue again. Not all of

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Speaker 6: you of that. It's a shame that this has happened.

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Speaker 6: It's been poorly handled. I think should have been sorted

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Speaker 3: Last thing the sport needed and that newle needed right now.

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Speaker 3: I've got to say I thought Laura Langman's piece and

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Speaker 6: And very well it was outstanding and we spoke to

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Speaker 3: New Zealand network.

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Speaker 6: Player, and she I think has a fair idea of

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Speaker 6: what's gone on or what's going on, but that I

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Speaker 6: think that that there sums up a previous generation of netballer.

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Speaker 6: Laura Langman was a hard art if I can use

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Speaker 6: that term, compared to the generation now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we'll watch the space. Thank you sir.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy the games this weekend. Andrewsavilaarsporto There twenty five to

439
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Speaker 3: ten on Newstalk's EDB News Talks V were Jack Tame

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Speaker 3: through the midday. That's a new song from Yumi Zuma,

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Speaker 3: the songs called Drag. They've just announced the name of

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Speaker 3: their new album. It's going to be called No Love

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Speaker 3: Lost to Kindness twenty two to ten. Just so you know,

444
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Speaker 3: the huge march in Auckland has kicked off today. The

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Speaker 3: pro Palestine March. That was supposed to go over the

446
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Speaker 3: Auckland Harbor Bridge, but then they were concerned about high winds,

447
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Speaker 3: so they've moved it to healthier square. That's just kicked off.

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Speaker 3: There are photos up at Insied Herald dot co dot

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Speaker 3: Inzied and we'll be following that progress over the next

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Speaker 3: couple of hours on news talks. He'd be time. Now

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Speaker 3: let's catch up with our film reviewer. Francisca Rudkin is

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Speaker 3: here this morning. Good morning, good morning. Okay, two films

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Speaker 3: to talk to you this morning. Both of them are

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Speaker 3: showing in cinemas. We'd better start off with the keenly

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Speaker 3: eagerly anticipated by millions of people worldwide, Downtown Abbey, the

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Speaker 3: Grand Finale.

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Speaker 9: It's hard to accept, so it's time to go. But

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Speaker 9: the future of Downtown Abbey is now in Mary's hands.

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Speaker 3: He will be a sensation, a last hurrah from the

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Speaker 3: Downtown Abbey team. Tell us about the Grand Finale, Francisca,

461
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Speaker 3: so this is the third.

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Speaker 10: And the final film, and look, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 10: I'm always very suspect when someone says this will be it,

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Speaker 10: this is the Grand Finale, because you know what the

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Speaker 10: entertainment world's like they're always at some point, but look,

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Speaker 10: to be honest with you, they very much treated this

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Speaker 10: as the grand finale. They wrapped up for all the storylines,

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Speaker 10: all the characters kind of had their moment, you know.

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Speaker 10: They made sure that everybody kind of had a moment,

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Speaker 10: and all the different subplots and storylines kind of got

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Speaker 10: wrapped up nicely. It had a very sentimental feel. I

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Speaker 10: was actually quite surprised when I kind of left. I

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Speaker 10: felt quite emotional and sort of sad that it was

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Speaker 10: all over, which took me a little bit by surprise, because,

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Speaker 10: to be honest with you, I felt like after fifteen

476
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Speaker 10: years had dragged.

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Speaker 11: On a bit.

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Speaker 12: So I think they've done a really nice job here.

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Speaker 10: I think if you have been a fan and watch

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Speaker 10: it over the years like I have, you'll be very

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Speaker 10: satisfied with this film.

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Speaker 12: They've done everything which we know Downton to be.

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Speaker 10: You know, it's always been a film where they've kind

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Speaker 10: of been your characters have always had their own personal dramas,

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Speaker 10: but it's always been a franchise that some characters will

486
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Speaker 10: always be looking to the past while we'll be looking

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Speaker 10: at the future, and that trying to work out how

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Speaker 10: we move forward and how generations pass on legacies to

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Speaker 10: other generations. So all those kind of things are all

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Speaker 10: in here. It's stepped it up a notch. I think

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Speaker 10: it's even more lavish than we've seen before. The costumes

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Speaker 10: are amazing, the sweeping shots of downtown Abbey are many,

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Speaker 10: and you know, and so I think they've really gone.

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Speaker 12: Actually, this is the finality. Let's go out on a bank.

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Speaker 10: Let's give the fans what they want and what they

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Speaker 10: love about Downtown Abbey, and we'll wrap it up and

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Speaker 10: everyone will need happy. And look, it's got all the

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Speaker 10: width that you expect. But actually also it's quite moving

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Speaker 10: at times, and that's largely because, of course Dave Maggie

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Speaker 10: Smith isn't there to wrap up this franchise that she

501
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Speaker 10: was such a big part of, so it's also quite emotional.

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Speaker 10: They pay very much tribute to her.

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Speaker 12: In this film.

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Speaker 10: So look, if you've love down to Abbey, it's very satisfying, sentimental,

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Speaker 10: still sort of.

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Speaker 12: Slightly sweet and of certain ridiculous.

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Speaker 10: We don't This is not a gritty, realistic look at

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Speaker 10: class in society and things. It's set in the nineteen thirties.

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Speaker 12: This one but it.

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Speaker 10: Is wonderful, pleasant, lovely entertainment. It's a great film to

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Speaker 10: take your mom to. A friend of mine gone vied

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Speaker 10: too the screening and she said, I've never watched any

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Speaker 10: down there before.

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Speaker 12: My mom loves it. Took her mum. Not only did

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Speaker 12: mum love it, but she fell in love with it

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Speaker 12: as well and was gone back to start watching from

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Speaker 12: the beginning.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, Oh, there you go. Oh that

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Speaker 3: is great. Okay, So that's down to Navy the Grand

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Speaker 3: Finale next up, also showing in cinemas. This is sketch.

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Speaker 13: It's always kind of been her thing, right, trying or kids.

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Speaker 14: Like to draw, but has she always been sosis?

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Speaker 3: She's working through some stuff. Okay, that's sketch. So it's

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Speaker 3: a family film, but it's a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: dark edge, doesn't it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's kind of a gentle kid's horror if you

527
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Speaker 10: can have that. I this came to my attention and

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Speaker 10: I quite liked it because it's just a little bit different.

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Speaker 10: It's not what we're used to. And I'm also a

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Speaker 10: huge fan of all the adventure sort of family films

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Speaker 10: that I grew up with, whether it was ET or

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Speaker 10: the gremlins and things like that. You know, a lot

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Speaker 10: of the family entertainment moved to animation, and they are

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Speaker 10: amazing and wonderful in their own right as well. But

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Speaker 10: I do love it when we have when you've got

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Speaker 10: a family film which is live action and things. But

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Speaker 10: the visual effects here are also really quite neat as well.

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Speaker 10: And I also like the fact this one doesn't shy

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Speaker 10: away from thinking that, you know, kids can deal with

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Speaker 10: quite hard, difficult stuff.

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Speaker 12: I mean, this is a.

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Speaker 10: Film about grief and pain and how we deal with

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Speaker 10: it and how it manifests.

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Speaker 12: So we've got Amber and Jack, two siblings.

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Speaker 10: Their mother has died their sort of elementary, sort of

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Speaker 10: primary school age, and their father played by Tony Hale,

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Speaker 10: is doing his best.

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Speaker 12: He adds a nice comedic.

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Speaker 10: Element to things, but Amber really takes out her anger

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Speaker 10: and her grief and things by drawing. And she draws

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Speaker 10: these very dark pictures monsters, and she disturbingly, she draws

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Speaker 10: these pictures of sort of quite violent scenes, often including

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Speaker 10: her classmates, which is a bit of a concern. Her

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Speaker 10: brother's really worried about her, and her brother finds in

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Speaker 10: the backyard they sort of live semi rurally.

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Speaker 12: He Finds is an American film. He finds in.

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Speaker 10: The backyard there's magic pond, and if he throws something

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Speaker 10: in it, like his phone, somehow it gets fixed. So

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Speaker 10: he thinks about throwing his mother's ashes in this pond

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Speaker 10: to maybe she will come back and it will heal

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Speaker 10: their family. But instead him and Amber have a bit

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Speaker 10: of a fight and Amber's drawing book goes in. So

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Speaker 10: all these monsters come to life, and these kids have

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Speaker 10: to find ways to kind of defeat these monsters and

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Speaker 10: overcome them and things.

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Speaker 12: So look, watch the trailer.

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Speaker 10: It will kind of depend on your kid and what

568
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Speaker 10: they're used to whether they will find some of this

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Speaker 10: a little bit scary or not. Watch the trailer work

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Speaker 10: it out. But I like the creativity and the original thought,

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Speaker 10: especially with these monsters coming to life as if they're

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Speaker 10: sketches sort of the visual effects and things, and I

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Speaker 10: just like the fact that, yeah, there's sort of trading

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Speaker 10: tool with a little bit of respect with the heaviness.

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Speaker 12: Of the topics. So it may or may not.

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Speaker 15: Be for you.

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Speaker 10: It's a bit like Inside Out, I suppose, right where

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Speaker 10: it talks about real emotions and real things that can

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Speaker 10: potentially happen.

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Speaker 12: But in a live action format.

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Speaker 3: Nice, okay, cool, that sounds really interesting. So that sketch

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Speaker 3: that showing in cinemas at the moment so is down

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Speaker 3: to abby the grand finale in both of those films,

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Speaker 3: and all of their details will be up at the

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Speaker 3: news to zeb website. Actually, speaking of treating young viewers

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Speaker 3: or young readers with you know, the expectation that they

587
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Speaker 3: can take a little bit of darkness sometimes after ten o'clock,

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Speaker 3: our feature interviews is Elizabeth Knox and she Keey author

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth Knox. She's written this brand new book called King

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Speaker 3: of the World, and it does have a bit of

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Speaker 3: a dark undertone. So it's ostensibly for younger readers, like

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Speaker 3: maybe twelve or thirteen year olds, but it does have

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Speaker 3: a bit of darkness. I'm going to talk to her

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Speaker 3: about how she tries to balance the kind of darker

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Speaker 3: components of her storytelling with that younger audience, because I

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Speaker 3: think she is probably of similar mind that actually, you

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Speaker 3: know what, kids can take some of the stuff. So anyway,

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Speaker 3: she's going to be with us alfter ten o'clock this morning,

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Speaker 3: was has flicked me a note Jack your comments about

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Speaker 3: the All Blacks box kicking I totally agree. Absolute madness.

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Speaker 3: It's like they don't want to run the ball anymore,

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Speaker 3: spoils the game, says was I wonder is it the

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Speaker 3: because every breakdown is so keenly contested these days? Do

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Speaker 3: we think that's why they're less enthusiastic about about running

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Speaker 3: it and passing it? Because if you think about it,

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Speaker 3: when it comes to a box kick, say we've got

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Speaker 3: a fifty five to forty five chance of getting the ball,

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Speaker 3: which we probably don't. It's probably fifty to fifty, but

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Speaker 3: let's say that the chances slightly favors us. When we're

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Speaker 3: kicking it. You're only ever going to get twenty meters

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Speaker 3: of gain in terms of territory, So it's a twenty

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Speaker 3: meter gain for a very big risk that you're going

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Speaker 3: to lose the ball. I just don't understand how the

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Speaker 3: statistical probability backs up kicking the ball nearly as frequently

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Speaker 3: as we seem to. So thank you on I'm glad

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Speaker 3: that you and I are on the same page with that.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget. Of course, we're going to have live commentary

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Speaker 3: of the All Backs in South Africa with Elliot Smith

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Speaker 3: this evening, Ross Bond and Jason Pine joining him on

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Speaker 3: news talks. He'd be Gold Sport and iHeartRadio from seven o'clock.

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Speaker 3: So if you are watching the Warriors, maybe and it's

622
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Speaker 3: a close game, maybe that's an option you could keep

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Speaker 3: the Warriors on for the end of the second half,

624
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Speaker 3: have the news talks. He'd be commentary team bringing you

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Speaker 3: the All Blacks. That way you're across both games. There

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Speaker 3: you go, solving all the problems. This morning, fourteen to ten.

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack Team keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend US talks.

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Speaker 5: He'd be ten cook.

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Speaker 3: Micky Wix is here.

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Speaker 11: Good morning, Good morning Jack.

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Speaker 16: How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm very very well, thank you. You are dealing with

634
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Speaker 3: one of my favorite vegetables this morning, which is a

635
00:32:49,013 --> 00:32:51,533
Speaker 3: big cour Do you know what. Here's the thing. I

636
00:32:51,613 --> 00:32:53,333
Speaker 3: grew up and I was lucky to go up in

637
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Speaker 3: a household where both of my parents are excellent cooks, right,

638
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Speaker 3: and yet if there was one criticism that I would

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Speaker 3: make of their cooking, at least in the early years

640
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Speaker 3: of my life, it's that they had a tendency to

641
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Speaker 3: sort of boil vegetables and overcook them to the point

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Speaker 3: that they get so stringy that one couldn't really digest them,

643
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Speaker 3: you know, you'd end up sort of chewing like you'd

644
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Speaker 3: end up chewing the sort of this protin this matter

645
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Speaker 3: for you know what I mean, for like fifteen minutes

646
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Speaker 3: of feeling like actually your survival wasn't breaking it down

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Speaker 3: at all, And anyway, top of the list for that

648
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Speaker 3: was leaks. Then then when I started cooking for myself,

649
00:33:31,013 --> 00:33:33,853
Speaker 3: I realized that, oh my goodness, if you just dicese

650
00:33:33,933 --> 00:33:38,253
Speaker 3: up throwing a good knuckles worth of butter into a pan,

651
00:33:38,813 --> 00:33:41,173
Speaker 3: there are few things that are more delicious.

652
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Speaker 17: I couldn't agree more because even though you do, you

653
00:33:44,653 --> 00:33:46,693
Speaker 17: either want to cook them fast and cristy, which I'm

654
00:33:46,693 --> 00:33:48,413
Speaker 17: going to give us the reci before, or slow, which

655
00:33:48,413 --> 00:33:50,373
Speaker 17: I'm also going to give us the rest before. You're

656
00:33:50,373 --> 00:33:52,573
Speaker 17: actually like, they need lots of fat around them, I

657
00:33:52,613 --> 00:33:55,013
Speaker 17: think so that they kind of melt was. I think

658
00:33:55,013 --> 00:33:57,493
Speaker 17: in our parents' day there was much more of a

659
00:33:57,573 --> 00:34:00,493
Speaker 17: tendency to shy away from some of those expensive engreens,

660
00:34:00,493 --> 00:34:02,893
Speaker 17: so we were steaming things or as you say, a

661
00:34:02,933 --> 00:34:07,013
Speaker 17: boiled leak is nobody's friend, let me tell you, you know. So, Yeah,

662
00:34:07,093 --> 00:34:09,893
Speaker 17: I love it, but a lot of people waste quite

663
00:34:09,893 --> 00:34:13,773
Speaker 17: a lot of the leak, so they'll they'll use the white,

664
00:34:13,773 --> 00:34:15,453
Speaker 17: but we all know we use the white. But they'll

665
00:34:15,533 --> 00:34:17,333
Speaker 17: use some of them when it starts to get a

666
00:34:17,333 --> 00:34:18,893
Speaker 17: little bit light green, and then the rest of the

667
00:34:18,933 --> 00:34:21,733
Speaker 17: exit of dark green goes at the compost. And I

668
00:34:21,813 --> 00:34:23,573
Speaker 17: used to do the same until a hippy friend of

669
00:34:23,613 --> 00:34:25,613
Speaker 17: mine was sort of looked at me with horror and said,

670
00:34:25,773 --> 00:34:28,613
Speaker 17: don't you use all of that? I said, not to

671
00:34:28,653 --> 00:34:32,493
Speaker 17: be discarded. Well, absolutely not, No you don't. So I've

672
00:34:32,533 --> 00:34:35,653
Speaker 17: got two lovely little ideas. One's a crispy leak topping.

673
00:34:35,693 --> 00:34:37,413
Speaker 17: So with that dark green, I mean, I'm going to

674
00:34:37,493 --> 00:34:40,293
Speaker 17: say that you'll be forgiven for say, throwing away the

675
00:34:40,413 --> 00:34:43,693
Speaker 17: last two sing to meters. Okay, but simly slice up

676
00:34:43,733 --> 00:34:45,613
Speaker 17: all of the tops of your green leaks, and so

677
00:34:46,053 --> 00:34:48,213
Speaker 17: this time you're sitting aside the good part, if you like,

678
00:34:48,253 --> 00:34:49,293
Speaker 17: or what we thought of the good part.

679
00:34:49,573 --> 00:34:50,493
Speaker 11: Rinse them in a bowl of.

680
00:34:50,413 --> 00:34:53,573
Speaker 17: Really cold water. And once they're chopped up, Once they're sliced,

681
00:34:53,573 --> 00:34:55,973
Speaker 17: because that keeps some of that dirt and sandiness out

682
00:34:56,013 --> 00:34:59,853
Speaker 17: of them, put them on your paper towel or in

683
00:34:59,853 --> 00:35:02,093
Speaker 17: my case of teatowel and just pat them dry. Then

684
00:35:02,133 --> 00:35:04,733
Speaker 17: heat a pan to medium, and I think here goes

685
00:35:04,773 --> 00:35:07,133
Speaker 17: that the kicker is one big t spoon of butter

686
00:35:07,293 --> 00:35:10,693
Speaker 17: and the same with oil. Shallow fry them jack until

687
00:35:10,733 --> 00:35:13,973
Speaker 17: they're brown, just starting to brown, and they'll go crispy.

688
00:35:14,133 --> 00:35:16,293
Speaker 17: Now the you could add some tarrigan. You could add

689
00:35:16,333 --> 00:35:19,613
Speaker 17: some thyme here, and then season them really well with

690
00:35:19,693 --> 00:35:22,133
Speaker 17: salt and pepper. Set them aside. This is a great

691
00:35:22,213 --> 00:35:27,293
Speaker 17: top off of fish, risotto, salads, or you could call

692
00:35:27,333 --> 00:35:29,773
Speaker 17: it completely and then stir it into some softened butter

693
00:35:29,893 --> 00:35:32,133
Speaker 17: and you've got what a chef's like to call a

694
00:35:32,173 --> 00:35:35,573
Speaker 17: compound butter. I eat something that's been flavored and then

695
00:35:35,613 --> 00:35:38,653
Speaker 17: you just smear it all over some crusty bread, maybe

696
00:35:38,693 --> 00:35:40,893
Speaker 17: a good thick piece of toast, and you are in

697
00:35:40,933 --> 00:35:41,293
Speaker 17: the heaven.

698
00:35:41,373 --> 00:35:41,933
Speaker 11: I can tell you.

699
00:35:42,053 --> 00:35:43,333
Speaker 3: Oh that does sound amazing.

700
00:35:43,653 --> 00:35:43,853
Speaker 15: Yeah.

701
00:35:45,053 --> 00:35:46,613
Speaker 17: The other way that I like to do them is

702
00:35:46,653 --> 00:35:49,853
Speaker 17: a softened leak compost. That's just a fancy name for

703
00:35:49,893 --> 00:35:52,853
Speaker 17: saying some slow cooks. So again I chop that green

704
00:35:52,893 --> 00:35:54,973
Speaker 17: part up, but this time I'll probably do it in

705
00:35:55,053 --> 00:35:59,053
Speaker 17: about one to two centimeters lents melt more butter. This

706
00:35:59,213 --> 00:36:01,893
Speaker 17: time we're using three tablespoons of butter plus run of

707
00:36:01,973 --> 00:36:04,493
Speaker 17: olive oil and a pan and then adde aleks and

708
00:36:04,533 --> 00:36:07,933
Speaker 17: cook them over a medium of heat. And I put them,

709
00:36:07,973 --> 00:36:10,413
Speaker 17: put the lid on and keep and cover them for

710
00:36:10,453 --> 00:36:11,293
Speaker 17: about twenty minutes.

711
00:36:11,293 --> 00:36:11,933
Speaker 12: They take a while.

712
00:36:11,973 --> 00:36:15,093
Speaker 17: Add in a crushed garlic clove, add and some zest

713
00:36:15,133 --> 00:36:17,293
Speaker 17: of a lemon, add in a splash of white wine,

714
00:36:17,453 --> 00:36:19,813
Speaker 17: bit of salt and pep up maybe even some cream

715
00:36:19,933 --> 00:36:22,293
Speaker 17: or some cream fresh and then cook them for another

716
00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:25,053
Speaker 17: fifteen to twenty minutes. But you're not doing you're doing

717
00:36:25,093 --> 00:36:27,373
Speaker 17: other things in that time. Yeah, probably the kids play

718
00:36:27,373 --> 00:36:30,093
Speaker 17: sport at that time. And then the leaks are soft

719
00:36:30,173 --> 00:36:32,653
Speaker 17: and melting and a beautiful and I like to do

720
00:36:32,973 --> 00:36:36,653
Speaker 17: this slot through pasta good bit of parmesan. Again, you

721
00:36:36,693 --> 00:36:38,733
Speaker 17: could serve it on toast with a good dollar of

722
00:36:38,733 --> 00:36:41,653
Speaker 17: sour cream, smear it over a pizza base, top it

723
00:36:41,693 --> 00:36:44,613
Speaker 17: with some bacon and cheese for a blank white pizza,

724
00:36:45,293 --> 00:36:47,093
Speaker 17: Loosen it up with some hot stock, and treat it

725
00:36:47,213 --> 00:36:50,413
Speaker 17: just as you water soup. So there's some really great ideas,

726
00:36:50,453 --> 00:36:52,453
Speaker 17: you know, put them in a put them in an omelet,

727
00:36:53,053 --> 00:36:55,733
Speaker 17: salt them with mushrooms, put them in a cheesy keiche,

728
00:36:55,733 --> 00:36:57,813
Speaker 17: that kind of thing. But we do not have to

729
00:36:57,813 --> 00:37:00,013
Speaker 17: be wasting I would say at least fifty percent of

730
00:37:00,013 --> 00:37:01,413
Speaker 17: our leaks. So there, you guys.

731
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Speaker 3: You could even do that. You could use the crispy

732
00:37:03,373 --> 00:37:05,253
Speaker 3: topping like on a kisha or something, ah like, you

733
00:37:05,293 --> 00:37:08,453
Speaker 3: could combine that. You can have the white pardon, you know,

734
00:37:08,493 --> 00:37:10,413
Speaker 3: in a slow cookdish and then have a little crispy

735
00:37:10,453 --> 00:37:13,173
Speaker 3: something on top o a leak.

736
00:37:13,053 --> 00:37:17,573
Speaker 17: Risotto, krispy leaks on top. Yeah, honestly, it's fantastic. And

737
00:37:17,613 --> 00:37:19,653
Speaker 17: so I you know, if you've been wasting all of

738
00:37:19,693 --> 00:37:21,933
Speaker 17: those leaks, this is that's the end of it. Honestly,

739
00:37:21,973 --> 00:37:24,853
Speaker 17: it's fantastic. I'm like you, I love a leak. I

740
00:37:24,893 --> 00:37:27,813
Speaker 17: think they're a very underrated vegetable superb.

741
00:37:27,893 --> 00:37:29,933
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Nicky. Well, we'll put those two

742
00:37:30,053 --> 00:37:32,733
Speaker 3: separate recipes up on the News talks 'b website. No

743
00:37:32,853 --> 00:37:35,613
Speaker 3: excuse for throwing away all that green goodness.

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Speaker 17: Fantastic giving you the inside.

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Speaker 1: Scoop on all you need to know Saturday morning with

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Speaker 3: Ah, David's got the right idea, Jack, I throw leak

748
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Speaker 3: tops and other things into a pressure cooker with the

749
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Speaker 3: right bones for great bone broth. Yeah, that's a very

750
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Speaker 3: good use. Thank you. David. Those two recipiece of Nikki's

751
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Speaker 3: slash Jack. Now after ten o'clock, remember that amazing series

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Speaker 3: of Best Homes with Phil Spencer. He's back. He's got

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Speaker 3: a brand new series. We're going to tell you about

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Speaker 3: it in our screen time segment where we recommend three

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Speaker 3: shows for watching or streaming at home, as well as

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Speaker 3: that key we author Elizabeth Knox is going to be

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Speaker 3: with us. She's had a really amazing and kind of

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Speaker 3: varied career over the years. So she's written best sellers

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Speaker 3: like Vintner's Luck, but she has also spent a lot

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Speaker 3: of time thinking about younger readers and the kinds of

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Speaker 3: stories that captivate younger readers. So she's got a brand

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Speaker 3: new book called Kings of the World. It's been a

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Speaker 3: bit of a long time coming, by her own admissions,

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Speaker 3: I think ten or twelve years she's been working on

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Speaker 3: this book. So she's going to be with us right

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Speaker 3: after the ten o'clock News with all the details on that.

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Speaker 3: I hear you go all the Love's coming up. Jack,

771
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Speaker 3: totally agree with you. Are out about the ridiculous box

772
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Speaker 3: kicks this morning. Maybe we need to start a campaign

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Speaker 3: hopefully raise us tuning in It's almost ten o'clock. News

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Speaker 3: is next Saturday Morning. I'm Jack Tame. This is news

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Speaker 3: Dog Zedvy excise.

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Speaker 1: What cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with

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Speaker 1: Jackdame News talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, You're with Jack Daime on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth Knox is one of New Zealand's most celebrated authors.

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Speaker 3: She's known, of course for the likes of Vintner's Luck

781
00:39:49,253 --> 00:39:52,773
Speaker 3: and The Absolute Book, but she also writes essay collections

782
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Speaker 3: and young adult stories. But would you get this? It

783
00:39:56,013 --> 00:39:59,373
Speaker 3: has been twelve years since Elizabeth last wrote a book

784
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Speaker 3: for young people. That was, at least until this week,

785
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Speaker 3: when her brand new novel Kings of This World was released.

786
00:40:06,453 --> 00:40:08,573
Speaker 3: Kings of This World tells the story of a young

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Speaker 3: protagonist who's the sole survivor of a cult massacre, and

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth is with us this morning. Called a good morning, Tiaha.

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Speaker 3: It is great to be speaking with you. Congratulations on

790
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Speaker 3: Kings of This World. This is your first novel for

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Speaker 3: young adults, and I think like eleven or twelve years.

792
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Speaker 3: So what made you return to that audience.

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Speaker 7: Well, I was returning, but over a very long horizon

794
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Speaker 7: because it took me a long time to write this book,

795
00:40:35,173 --> 00:40:37,493
Speaker 7: because I had the bad habit of writing several books

796
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Speaker 7: at the same time.

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Speaker 3: Is that what I recommend to Elizabeth? Several books at

798
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Speaker 3: one at the same time.

799
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Speaker 7: I developed the strategy when I had a lot of

800
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Speaker 7: distractions in my life and I decided to distract myself

801
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Speaker 7: so I had some power over that, and then I

802
00:40:54,013 --> 00:40:56,493
Speaker 7: came out of it and thought I'd solve the problem

803
00:40:56,573 --> 00:40:59,453
Speaker 7: and I could always keep doing that, but no bad habit.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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00:41:00,093 --> 00:41:02,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that means that it took a wee while

806
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Speaker 3: or slightly longer than it might have if you were

807
00:41:04,893 --> 00:41:09,093
Speaker 3: just focusing on Kings of the not slightly. Yes, well,

808
00:41:09,453 --> 00:41:13,653
Speaker 3: I'm sure that young readers will be absolutely delighted that

809
00:41:13,693 --> 00:41:15,373
Speaker 3: you've reached this point. Can you tell us a little

810
00:41:15,373 --> 00:41:16,533
Speaker 3: bit about Kings of This World?

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Speaker 7: Kings of This World is the protagonist is Vex Magdalene,

812
00:41:22,453 --> 00:41:26,053
Speaker 7: and she, at eight years old, was a sole survivor

813
00:41:26,293 --> 00:41:30,893
Speaker 7: of a cult massacre, and she has been raised in

814
00:41:30,893 --> 00:41:37,933
Speaker 7: institutions by experts, and then by a very good foster family,

815
00:41:38,013 --> 00:41:40,213
Speaker 7: and it's only in her last year of high school

816
00:41:40,253 --> 00:41:43,293
Speaker 7: that she's let out. Now, the thing about the massacre

817
00:41:43,533 --> 00:41:47,333
Speaker 7: is that it's the only massacre of people who are

818
00:41:47,693 --> 00:41:52,293
Speaker 7: pushed to death. And in this country they have a

819
00:41:52,373 --> 00:41:55,493
Speaker 7: kind of an endemic thing going on where one percent

820
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Speaker 7: of the population is able to tell other people what

821
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Speaker 7: to do and they'll do it. But of course that's

822
00:42:02,613 --> 00:42:07,173
Speaker 7: a spectrum, so some people can when the is an

823
00:42:07,173 --> 00:42:11,093
Speaker 7: attentive to get a good table at a restaurant, and

824
00:42:11,213 --> 00:42:16,093
Speaker 7: other people are able to do crowd control. So Vex's

825
00:42:16,133 --> 00:42:20,253
Speaker 7: father was up at the crowd control end of the spectrum,

826
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Speaker 7: and he also survived the massacre and then disappeared. And

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Speaker 7: she gets to go to school in her last year,

828
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Speaker 7: and the school that she chooses to go to is

829
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Speaker 7: the preferred school of the percentage the people who have

830
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Speaker 7: p Yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: So where does your interest in cults stem from?

832
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Speaker 7: Oh, this is a hard one who's not interested in cults?

833
00:42:45,413 --> 00:42:53,533
Speaker 7: True watching things, Yeah, things evolve on television news.

834
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Speaker 3: When I was a child and also.

835
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Speaker 7: Kind of been being a child and teenager in the

836
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Speaker 7: sixties and seventies and sort of seeing the alternative lifestyle

837
00:43:06,013 --> 00:43:11,213
Speaker 7: thing and the evangelistic idea that you could take your

838
00:43:11,253 --> 00:43:14,733
Speaker 7: group of people off and make a better world in

839
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Speaker 7: a small place, which you know was often well intentioned.

840
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Speaker 7: And I always think of the very historic New Zealand

841
00:43:22,813 --> 00:43:29,173
Speaker 7: ones that were pacifists during World War Two. Those those

842
00:43:29,373 --> 00:43:34,613
Speaker 7: there weren't cults per save it and communities. Yeah, so yeah,

843
00:43:34,733 --> 00:43:37,013
Speaker 7: so just I was always interested.

844
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Speaker 3: I suppose there are always that that there there are really

845
00:43:40,413 --> 00:43:44,533
Speaker 3: good sort of portal into different components in human psychology,

846
00:43:44,573 --> 00:43:47,413
Speaker 3: aren't they. You know, whether it's the kind of the

847
00:43:47,533 --> 00:43:51,813
Speaker 3: nature of the ways in which you know, groups interact

848
00:43:51,893 --> 00:43:54,333
Speaker 3: or members of a group interact with one another, ways

849
00:43:54,333 --> 00:43:56,453
Speaker 3: in which people can be led in certain directions, that

850
00:43:56,533 --> 00:43:58,773
Speaker 3: there are all sorts of interesting parts of the human

851
00:43:58,773 --> 00:44:02,253
Speaker 3: psyche that can be unpacked when you when you know,

852
00:44:02,373 --> 00:44:03,893
Speaker 3: look at it through the frame of a cult.

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00:44:04,453 --> 00:44:07,573
Speaker 7: Yes, in the sort of ideology. So I was inventing

854
00:44:07,613 --> 00:44:11,013
Speaker 7: an ideology that wasn't just in the end the backstory,

855
00:44:11,053 --> 00:44:14,693
Speaker 7: but still playing out in the world and then impacting

856
00:44:14,773 --> 00:44:19,653
Speaker 7: on Vex's continued life, in the life of her four

857
00:44:19,733 --> 00:44:22,653
Speaker 7: friends who end up kidnapped with her.

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Speaker 3: So do you write with young adult readers in mind,

859
00:44:26,573 --> 00:44:29,813
Speaker 3: or does the book find its own audience as the

860
00:44:29,853 --> 00:44:31,893
Speaker 3: story forms.

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00:44:31,853 --> 00:44:35,333
Speaker 7: Both at the same time. Like, I have the idea,

862
00:44:35,413 --> 00:44:37,733
Speaker 7: and then I think that would work as a young

863
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Speaker 7: adult book, and I start to write it accordingly, and

864
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Speaker 7: I have a few I have one now, I have

865
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Speaker 7: one central principle for young adult as opposed to adult

866
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Speaker 7: fiction is and that is that you can't deprive the

867
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Speaker 7: readers of hope. So with that in mind, I was

868
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Speaker 7: able to write a you know.

869
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Speaker 3: A pretty scary thriller.

870
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Speaker 7: And I don't think that young readers need to be

871
00:45:01,053 --> 00:45:07,413
Speaker 7: defended from suspense and and you know, fear and things

872
00:45:07,533 --> 00:45:12,133
Speaker 7: like that obviously. So you know, my kidnapping plays out

873
00:45:12,213 --> 00:45:21,933
Speaker 7: like a kidnapping, except the clever young people managed to

874
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Speaker 7: get out, they managed to survive, and it's it was

875
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Speaker 7: interesting me to try to work it out in a

876
00:45:30,613 --> 00:45:35,093
Speaker 7: practical sense that the people who don't have pee, the

877
00:45:35,533 --> 00:45:38,173
Speaker 7: two people in the room who don't.

878
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Speaker 3: Have any.

879
00:45:40,533 --> 00:45:42,733
Speaker 7: Or you know, no one thinks they have any, well

880
00:45:42,773 --> 00:45:46,533
Speaker 7: they don't and they are just just either very strong

881
00:45:46,653 --> 00:45:52,373
Speaker 7: or very very self possessed and cunning. So yeah, the

882
00:45:52,893 --> 00:45:56,653
Speaker 7: kind of the weakest member of the team, the swatty

883
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Speaker 7: girl is the one that kind of pulls things off.

884
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Speaker 3: And yeah, well, why is the hope component so important

885
00:46:04,653 --> 00:46:06,093
Speaker 3: to you for young readers?

886
00:46:07,293 --> 00:46:11,253
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I just think that that that that

887
00:46:11,533 --> 00:46:14,853
Speaker 7: kind of moment where you go from being a child

888
00:46:14,973 --> 00:46:18,053
Speaker 7: who feels no sense that they're ever going to be

889
00:46:18,133 --> 00:46:21,733
Speaker 7: made responsible for the way the world's organized, and then

890
00:46:21,853 --> 00:46:25,133
Speaker 7: through the years where you suddenly realize that you have

891
00:46:25,173 --> 00:46:28,853
Speaker 7: an inheritance and it isn't you know, isn't necessarily the

892
00:46:28,893 --> 00:46:33,293
Speaker 7: beautiful house, it's the falling down house. And I think

893
00:46:33,293 --> 00:46:35,573
Speaker 7: they've got a lot on their plates during those years,

894
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Speaker 7: and so if you're going to expose them to art, you,

895
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Speaker 7: I mean, it's just kind and encouraging to show them

896
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Speaker 7: that you know, you can have agency and yeah, to

897
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Speaker 7: take response, take responsibility and and make your own decisions

898
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Speaker 7: and not be punished for that.

899
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So that's interesting, right, because you're hoping that readers

900
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Speaker 3: will get something out of it. I suppose you're hoping

901
00:47:03,973 --> 00:47:06,013
Speaker 3: that they'll get a message out of it as well

902
00:47:06,053 --> 00:47:10,733
Speaker 3: as simply being entertained or being consumed by a story.

903
00:47:10,893 --> 00:47:13,533
Speaker 3: You're really hoping that young readers, in particular, and in

904
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Speaker 3: a way that maybe you don't feel the same compulsion

905
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Speaker 3: with older readers. Is that fair?

906
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Speaker 12: Well?

907
00:47:18,413 --> 00:47:21,573
Speaker 7: I think that whatever the view of the world is

908
00:47:21,613 --> 00:47:26,613
Speaker 7: in a novel always rises out of the author's feelings

909
00:47:26,653 --> 00:47:30,813
Speaker 7: for living in the world, and so it's not so

910
00:47:30,933 --> 00:47:38,013
Speaker 7: much a message as just kind of changing the color

911
00:47:38,053 --> 00:47:41,093
Speaker 7: of people's thinking a little bit so that they're able

912
00:47:41,173 --> 00:47:44,453
Speaker 7: to kind of see things in or feel things a

913
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Speaker 7: bit differently. And with this one, I was interested in

914
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Speaker 7: the fact that the young people ended up not trusting

915
00:47:56,773 --> 00:48:00,053
Speaker 7: any of their elders around them or thinking they were

916
00:48:00,133 --> 00:48:02,933
Speaker 7: functionally useless one way or another, because they were so

917
00:48:03,093 --> 00:48:08,053
Speaker 7: sidelined after the kidnapping, after the investoration, and so they

918
00:48:08,093 --> 00:48:11,013
Speaker 7: make a series of decisions, good and bad, to try

919
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Speaker 7: and work out what's happened and do something about it.

920
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Speaker 7: And yeah, they and it's good for them that they

921
00:48:20,653 --> 00:48:24,613
Speaker 7: do that. They come out bigger and stronger and and

922
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Speaker 7: closer together to each other.

923
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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean that, Actually that makes total sense, really,

924
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Speaker 3: And so you've just been on a writer's retreat, right, Elizabeth?

925
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Speaker 3: How was that?

926
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Speaker 5: Oh?

927
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Speaker 7: Yes, it's the best gig. So twice a year I

928
00:48:41,293 --> 00:48:46,133
Speaker 7: take workshops at a writer's retreat, and the workshop component

929
00:48:46,493 --> 00:48:52,293
Speaker 7: is kind of playing a murder mystery, and it's it's

930
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Speaker 7: always hilarious.

931
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Speaker 11: You know.

932
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Speaker 7: The people who come into it who haven't done it

933
00:48:56,173 --> 00:48:59,173
Speaker 7: before are slightly dubious, but I have a lot of

934
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Speaker 7: repeat people coming back, so that that's my kind of

935
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Speaker 7: like skeleton of people with faith in the pro So

936
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Speaker 7: that happens and then and then I also have kind

937
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Speaker 7: of time alone with each attendee to talk about the

938
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Speaker 7: project that they're working on. And I love that partly

939
00:49:18,493 --> 00:49:23,133
Speaker 7: because I come away feeling incredibly useful, and boy, I

940
00:49:23,173 --> 00:49:25,613
Speaker 7: think feeling useful is about the best you can feel.

941
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Speaker 7: And also because there's always these fantastic cooks cook every meal.

942
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Speaker 7: So yeah, there was one fabulous cook and now there's

943
00:49:38,533 --> 00:49:43,773
Speaker 7: another fabulous cook and it's vegan and gluten free, and

944
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Speaker 7: it's just this incredibly tasty and really good for you

945
00:49:49,213 --> 00:49:52,733
Speaker 7: food that turns up at breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And

946
00:49:52,773 --> 00:49:53,733
Speaker 7: when do you get that.

947
00:49:55,333 --> 00:49:59,053
Speaker 3: Sort of been nourished in every sense, both literally and

948
00:49:59,053 --> 00:50:01,933
Speaker 3: a nutritional sense, but also in an intellectual sense as well.

949
00:50:02,013 --> 00:50:05,893
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, completely nourishing experience. So yeah, that's yeah. And

950
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Speaker 7: that's that's run by Kerrie Sunderland and Nelson right around

951
00:50:11,333 --> 00:50:13,973
Speaker 7: New Zealand is her little business.

952
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Speaker 3: Oh, how amazing. How does the murder mystery work?

953
00:50:17,013 --> 00:50:20,613
Speaker 7: The murder mystery? Oh yeah, the murder mystery. I change

954
00:50:20,653 --> 00:50:22,653
Speaker 7: it up every year. So it used to be a

955
00:50:22,773 --> 00:50:25,773
Speaker 7: murder and a little New Zealand cold, suburban cul des

956
00:50:25,853 --> 00:50:28,893
Speaker 7: arc and then it became a murder in a eighteen

957
00:50:29,693 --> 00:50:34,573
Speaker 7: thirty's English country house. And I've just done a boys'

958
00:50:34,693 --> 00:50:40,333
Speaker 7: school in nineteen sixty three, and all sorts of things happen,

959
00:50:40,373 --> 00:50:44,253
Speaker 7: but there are patterns, and you know that's they're hilarious

960
00:50:44,293 --> 00:50:49,213
Speaker 7: and slightly disgraceful, and that year after year the murder

961
00:50:49,293 --> 00:50:54,373
Speaker 7: victim always turns out to have been sleeping with everyone. No,

962
00:50:55,693 --> 00:50:58,933
Speaker 7: the lot of hilarity. Yes, it does work.

963
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Speaker 3: It does sound like fun. Yeah, it sounds amazing. Hey,

964
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Speaker 3: thank you so much. Congratulations and we are so pleased

965
00:51:05,253 --> 00:51:08,733
Speaker 3: that despite I don't say a bumpy rde but despite

966
00:51:08,733 --> 00:51:13,533
Speaker 3: a slightly elongated process, that things have ultimately worked out.

967
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Speaker 3: Congratulations on Kings of this World.

968
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Speaker 12: Thank you.

969
00:51:16,973 --> 00:51:19,333
Speaker 3: That is Elizabeth Knox. All the details for Kings of

970
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Speaker 3: this World are up on the news talks he Deep website.

971
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Speaker 3: It's eighteen past ten before eleven o'clock on news Talks.

972
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Speaker 3: He'd b Apple has had its big splash, grand new

973
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Speaker 3: product event thing that they do, you know, the ones

974
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Speaker 3: that in the past have had executives dancing on stage

975
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Speaker 3: and Steve Job saying this is going to change your life. Well,

976
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Speaker 3: the iPhone seventeen has been released. Is it really going

977
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Speaker 3: to change your life? Or is it just slightly better

978
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Speaker 3: than last year's iPhone. Our texpert's going to give us

979
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Speaker 3: his thoughts on that very shortly. We'll be in the

980
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Speaker 3: garden before eleven o'clock with all the things you need

981
00:51:51,613 --> 00:51:53,933
Speaker 3: to do now to get organized for spring. And next

982
00:51:54,013 --> 00:51:56,973
Speaker 3: up your screen time picks for this week Three shows

983
00:51:57,013 --> 00:51:59,573
Speaker 3: to watch your stream on the Catch this weekend nineteen

984
00:51:59,613 --> 00:52:00,053
Speaker 3: past ten.

985
00:52:01,293 --> 00:52:04,813
Speaker 1: Start your weekend off the right way. Saturday Morning with

986
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Speaker 1: jackdam Talk.

987
00:52:07,613 --> 00:52:10,213
Speaker 3: Twenty two minutes past ten on Newstalks. He'd be Jack.

988
00:52:10,293 --> 00:52:13,653
Speaker 3: Absolutely love Elizabeth Knox and her writing. Vintas Luck is

989
00:52:13,693 --> 00:52:16,093
Speaker 3: one of my favorite reads. So really good to see

990
00:52:16,093 --> 00:52:19,053
Speaker 3: that she's got a new book out. Appreciate the text

991
00:52:19,133 --> 00:52:22,053
Speaker 3: this morning, Jack says Russell. It is not often that

992
00:52:22,093 --> 00:52:24,733
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I love texts that begin with that,

993
00:52:24,973 --> 00:52:29,133
Speaker 3: but says Russell. But this time, regarding the all Blacks

994
00:52:29,173 --> 00:52:32,533
Speaker 3: and Box kicks. I fully agree, says Russell. I'm please Russell.

995
00:52:32,533 --> 00:52:34,093
Speaker 3: We're on the same page with that one. Thank you

996
00:52:34,173 --> 00:52:35,653
Speaker 3: ninety two ninety two. If you want to see me

997
00:52:35,653 --> 00:52:38,053
Speaker 3: a message Jack at Newstalks, he'd be dot coda and inzad.

998
00:52:38,053 --> 00:52:39,973
Speaker 3: If you weren't listening before ten o'clock, we missed you.

999
00:52:40,053 --> 00:52:41,453
Speaker 3: I just went off on a bit of a rant.

1000
00:52:41,573 --> 00:52:43,733
Speaker 3: I'm just sick of the all blacks box kicking quite

1001
00:52:43,813 --> 00:52:46,053
Speaker 3: as often as they do when they only seem to

1002
00:52:46,093 --> 00:52:47,733
Speaker 3: get the ball back fifty percent of the time. It's

1003
00:52:48,053 --> 00:52:50,773
Speaker 3: a twenty meter advantage at best. So what's the point.

1004
00:52:50,893 --> 00:52:53,373
Speaker 3: Why are we continuing to do this? Anyway? I'll get

1005
00:52:53,373 --> 00:52:55,253
Speaker 3: to more of your feedback very shortly. Right now, though,

1006
00:52:55,293 --> 00:52:58,493
Speaker 3: it is screen time time. Time to catch up with

1007
00:52:58,533 --> 00:53:01,573
Speaker 3: Tara Wards. She's our screen time expert. It is her

1008
00:53:01,693 --> 00:53:05,413
Speaker 3: role every week to recommend three shows for watching or

1009
00:53:05,453 --> 00:53:09,133
Speaker 3: streaming at home. Hey, Tara, good morning will begin this

1010
00:53:09,133 --> 00:53:12,733
Speaker 3: morning with a show that's streaming on Neon starring Mark Ruffalo.

1011
00:53:12,853 --> 00:53:13,973
Speaker 3: Tell us about Task.

1012
00:53:14,973 --> 00:53:15,173
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1013
00:53:15,253 --> 00:53:18,053
Speaker 12: Task is HBO's latest crime thriller.

1014
00:53:18,133 --> 00:53:20,893
Speaker 14: And you might remember the show Mayor of Eastown that

1015
00:53:20,933 --> 00:53:23,293
Speaker 14: came out a few years ago at starred Kate Winslet. Yep,

1016
00:53:23,533 --> 00:53:25,733
Speaker 14: she played a detective in Pennsylvania and it was quite

1017
00:53:25,733 --> 00:53:29,253
Speaker 14: a slow, gritty crime thriller. Well, this latest series, Task

1018
00:53:29,373 --> 00:53:32,093
Speaker 14: is made by the same creator of Mayor of Eastown,

1019
00:53:32,133 --> 00:53:35,013
Speaker 14: Brand Englesby, and it feels quite similar. It has that

1020
00:53:35,053 --> 00:53:38,373
Speaker 14: same kind of slow pace, it's set in working class communities,

1021
00:53:38,413 --> 00:53:41,653
Speaker 14: and it's got a similar kind of worn down mood

1022
00:53:41,733 --> 00:53:43,893
Speaker 14: to it. But as you say, it stars Mark Ruffalo,

1023
00:53:43,933 --> 00:53:47,493
Speaker 14: who is great in this. He plays an FBI agent

1024
00:53:47,573 --> 00:53:50,693
Speaker 14: who is dealing with a family tragedy and he's also

1025
00:53:50,773 --> 00:53:54,253
Speaker 14: been assigned to a case involving some violent home invasions

1026
00:53:54,253 --> 00:53:58,413
Speaker 14: in Philadelphia and those robberies are linked to local drug

1027
00:53:58,413 --> 00:54:01,573
Speaker 14: houses and so he needs to find the criminals before

1028
00:54:02,173 --> 00:54:04,333
Speaker 14: it escalates into a drug war. And so he pulls

1029
00:54:04,373 --> 00:54:09,093
Speaker 14: together a task of agents tasticles of agents to help

1030
00:54:09,133 --> 00:54:11,653
Speaker 14: him investigate, and what he thinks is going to be

1031
00:54:11,693 --> 00:54:15,173
Speaker 14: a simple case turns into this violent game of cat

1032
00:54:15,173 --> 00:54:17,893
Speaker 14: and mouse. And like Mayor of Eastown, this is about

1033
00:54:17,933 --> 00:54:21,773
Speaker 14: how crime has a ripple effect in communities, and how

1034
00:54:21,773 --> 00:54:24,773
Speaker 14: the system is rigged against some people, and how personal

1035
00:54:24,773 --> 00:54:28,013
Speaker 14: and professional lives just always get tangled up. It's a

1036
00:54:28,053 --> 00:54:30,093
Speaker 14: great show. But I think you have to be in

1037
00:54:30,093 --> 00:54:33,973
Speaker 14: the right mood for this. It's slow, quite herevy, very atmosphere,

1038
00:54:34,413 --> 00:54:36,253
Speaker 14: but you know, it's HBO, so it's.

1039
00:54:36,173 --> 00:54:37,013
Speaker 12: A quality series.

1040
00:54:37,053 --> 00:54:39,893
Speaker 14: It's kind of beautifully bleak and if you like Mayor

1041
00:54:39,853 --> 00:54:41,733
Speaker 14: of Eastown you will definitely like this as well.

1042
00:54:41,813 --> 00:54:44,493
Speaker 3: I love Mayor of Eastown, so that's a bit of

1043
00:54:44,493 --> 00:54:47,133
Speaker 3: me by the sounds of things. So that's Task that

1044
00:54:47,173 --> 00:54:49,973
Speaker 3: stars Mark Ruffalo. It's on Neon on Prime Video.

1045
00:54:50,213 --> 00:54:53,133
Speaker 12: The Girlfriend, Yes, something very different.

1046
00:54:53,173 --> 00:54:56,373
Speaker 14: This is a new psychological thriller starring Robin Wright and

1047
00:54:56,453 --> 00:55:00,253
Speaker 14: Olivia Cook, and it's about how a mother's perfect life

1048
00:55:00,293 --> 00:55:03,213
Speaker 14: starts to fall apart when her son brings his new

1049
00:55:03,253 --> 00:55:06,453
Speaker 14: girlfriend home. The mother, Laura, lives in London. She's a

1050
00:55:06,453 --> 00:55:09,173
Speaker 14: a wealthy gallery owner and she's very close with her

1051
00:55:09,253 --> 00:55:12,693
Speaker 14: adult son Daniel, almost to the point of having an

1052
00:55:12,773 --> 00:55:16,813
Speaker 14: unhealthy relationship. But everything changes when Daniel meets this new girlfriend.

1053
00:55:17,213 --> 00:55:20,013
Speaker 14: Laura is immediately suspicious of her and starts to dig

1054
00:55:20,053 --> 00:55:23,933
Speaker 14: into her past, uncovers several eyes and things begin to

1055
00:55:24,013 --> 00:55:28,333
Speaker 14: unravel and it's a story of manipulation and jealousy and

1056
00:55:28,413 --> 00:55:31,373
Speaker 14: the question is is Laura warranted and trying to protect

1057
00:55:31,413 --> 00:55:35,173
Speaker 14: her son or is she just paranoid and obsessed with him?

1058
00:55:35,333 --> 00:55:37,893
Speaker 14: And when I started watching this, you know, it throws

1059
00:55:37,893 --> 00:55:40,013
Speaker 14: a few cliches that you straight away and I thought, oh,

1060
00:55:40,053 --> 00:55:42,973
Speaker 14: I've seen this show lots of times before, but then

1061
00:55:43,013 --> 00:55:45,333
Speaker 14: it pulled me in really quickly, and this is going

1062
00:55:45,373 --> 00:55:47,213
Speaker 14: to be my weekend watch. I think most of that

1063
00:55:48,013 --> 00:55:50,493
Speaker 14: is to do with Robin Wright, who is just fantastic

1064
00:55:50,493 --> 00:55:53,373
Speaker 14: in this. She's directing this as well. But it's one

1065
00:55:53,373 --> 00:55:56,693
Speaker 14: of those shows that you don't know who's telling the truth,

1066
00:55:56,773 --> 00:55:59,653
Speaker 14: You don't know who to believe. Nothing is as it seems,

1067
00:55:59,733 --> 00:56:02,893
Speaker 14: and it plays around with perspectives and storytelling, so you

1068
00:56:02,933 --> 00:56:04,213
Speaker 14: see the same events.

1069
00:56:03,853 --> 00:56:06,293
Speaker 12: From different viewpoints and that keeps you guessing.

1070
00:56:07,053 --> 00:56:09,653
Speaker 14: You know, it's not perfect, but it's compelling and it's entertaining,

1071
00:56:09,693 --> 00:56:11,853
Speaker 14: and it gets darker as it goes along.

1072
00:56:11,933 --> 00:56:14,773
Speaker 3: Yeah. Cool, Okay, that's the girlfriend. That's on Prime Video

1073
00:56:14,853 --> 00:56:16,653
Speaker 3: and on TV and Z one and TV and Z

1074
00:56:16,813 --> 00:56:19,733
Speaker 3: Plus from tomorrow night. New Zealand's Best Homes with Phil

1075
00:56:19,853 --> 00:56:21,893
Speaker 3: Spencer as another series.

1076
00:56:22,933 --> 00:56:25,893
Speaker 14: New season of the very popular tv Z show that

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Speaker 14: takes us inside some of New Zealand's most impressive homes

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Speaker 14: and as the name sueduced. This is presented by Phil Spencer,

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Speaker 14: who of course most famous here for his British property

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Speaker 14: shows like Location, Location, Location, and Love It All Listed,

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Speaker 14: And he's flown back to New Zealand to visit eighteen

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Speaker 14: more spectacular luxury million dollar properties built in the mountains

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Speaker 14: and beside the beach in places like Wantaka and Corimandel

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Speaker 14: and Bay of Islands. And it's sort of a celebration

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Speaker 14: of the architecture and the artistry of these houses, and

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Speaker 14: he meets the owners and the architects and learns more

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Speaker 14: about what they were trying to do and how those

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Speaker 14: houses fit in with the environment around them, and it's

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Speaker 14: it's a beautiful show to watch. Many of us will

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Speaker 14: never step foot inside houses like these, so it's answering

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Speaker 14: that endless curiosity that we have with these property TV

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Speaker 14: shows about seeing how other people love It's. Yeah, pretty

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Speaker 14: spectacular houses and that's that's one of my fast.

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Speaker 3: Okay cool, So that's back tomorrow night on TV and

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Speaker 3: Z one and streaming on TV and Z Plus thereafter.

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Speaker 3: Of course, thanks Tara, those shows once again New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: Best Homes with Phil Spencer. The Girlfriend is on Prime

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Speaker 3: Video and task is the one with Mark Ruffalo that

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Speaker 3: is streaming on neon.

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Speaker 8: Getting your Weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 8: on News Talk.

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Speaker 5: Zb been now ever here with him.

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Speaker 3: That is Ed Shearon with Azizam. He's just released his

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Speaker 3: eighth album. The album's called Play. That song's a funny

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Speaker 3: one though. So Aziza is a Persian word, and it

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Speaker 3: is a Persian word that kind of means like my

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Speaker 3: my beloved, like sweetheart or something like that, and you

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Speaker 3: can use it for uh, you know, cute little kids

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Speaker 3: in the family or something. Is He's the reason I

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Speaker 3: not this is of course that I'm married to a

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Speaker 3: Persian or my amare's a Persian. And when Id Sheeran

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Speaker 3: came out with a song called as the Persian Family,

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Speaker 3: group chat went crazy. Everyone was like, what, hang on,

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Speaker 3: Id Shearon has a song called Aziza, Like we're talking

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Speaker 3: about the same Id Shearon here, the guy from Yorkshire, right,

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, we're talking about him having a song called

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Speaker 3: Asesa was very confusing anyway, catchy song. So the last

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Speaker 3: couple of Wed Shearon albums haven't gone that well in

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Speaker 3: terms of sales or at least by each sharing standards. Right,

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Speaker 3: So if you go back to twenty seventeen, his album

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Speaker 3: Divides sold like eight and a half million records in

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Speaker 3: the UK alone, but his last couple of albums have

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Speaker 3: only sold less than half a million copies world wide.

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Speaker 3: I think, to be honest, though, it doesn't really matter,

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Speaker 3: because he released those albums while traveling the world on

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Speaker 3: a one hundred and sixty nine stop stadium tour that

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Speaker 3: I think Ed probably did pretty well out of. On

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Speaker 3: that tour, he had more than a million people seeing

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Speaker 3: and perform live in London alone, and his new album

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Speaker 3: Play has gone straight to number one our music review

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Speaker 3: at Stelle. Clifford's going to run us through her favorite

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Speaker 3: tracks before midday. Funny too, because each Heeron's been talking

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Speaker 3: about maybe making a bit of a switch into country

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Speaker 3: music at the moment, So looking forward to having a

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Speaker 3: bit of a listen to that before eleven o'clock on

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Speaker 3: news talks, he'd be rude clime past our man, and

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Speaker 3: the garden is going to be in the garden with

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Speaker 3: all the things you need to do in your garden

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Speaker 3: to get organized for spring. Rud centers a warning saying

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Speaker 3: now is the time to get organized. If you've been

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Speaker 3: sitting on your hands a little bit over the wet

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Speaker 3: last couple of months. Now is the time to change

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Speaker 3: all of that. So he'll be with us very shortly.

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Speaker 3: Next up, though, our texpert is in twenty seven to

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Speaker 3: eleven on Newstalks ZEDB putting.

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Speaker 1: The tough questions to the newspeakers The mic Asking Breakfast the.

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Speaker 16: National Curriculum Refresh. Education Minister Ericus Stanford is with us.

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Speaker 16: Why these specific subjects and how do you choose them?

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Speaker 18: Well, the Ministry of Education have given me quite a

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Speaker 18: lot of advice, but there's also some of things that

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Speaker 18: we've been talking about for a very long time, like Civix,

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Speaker 18: but we've never done and there's been many groups have

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Speaker 18: called for a Civics to be taught in our schools

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Speaker 18: and so that was a no brainer.

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Speaker 16: Growing pushback that appears to be building around general changes

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Speaker 16: too in CEA. Is this a fight building?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 15: I think actually things that shifting.

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Speaker 18: I was talking to our principle yesterday who said many

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Speaker 18: of the principals who signed that original letter now have

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Speaker 18: changed their minds, which is encouraging.

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Speaker 16: Back Monday from six am The mic Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 16: Bailey's Real Estate News Talk ZEDB twenty.

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Speaker 3: Five to eleven, non newstalk EDB. Apple had its big

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Speaker 3: splash event this week, the one they do in septem

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Speaker 3: every year with our announced new iPhones. But like I've

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Speaker 3: lamented on the show before, it sort of feels like

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Speaker 3: we're at a stage when it comes to smartphones, like

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Speaker 3: the iterations don't really change that much. They're just kind

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Speaker 3: of tweaking the cameras a little bit, tweaking the storage,

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Speaker 3: making it all go a little bit fast, or our textbit.

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Speaker 3: Paul Stenhouse was no doubt watching alongside all the Apple

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Speaker 3: geeks of the world. What did you make it a Paul?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, that we are geeks, aren't we. It's pretty sad.

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Speaker 19: I've been looking at the line up and thinking.

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Speaker 2: Do I don't I do I?

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Speaker 19: But here's the thing, Jack, they're making it more complicated

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Speaker 19: for the Apple fans and the Apple geeks because they've

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Speaker 19: added a new phone to the mix. So it used

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Speaker 19: to be that you were just saying where you're going

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Speaker 19: to get basically the iPhone or the iPhone Pro, and

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Speaker 19: now they've gone and added this iPhone Air, which looks

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Speaker 19: really cool. And what they've done is they've managed to

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Speaker 19: kind of squeeze the entire phone components into an area

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Speaker 19: at the top of the phone, and then the rest

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Speaker 19: of the phone is just very very thin. It's basically

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Speaker 19: all battery. Yeah, And so they say that it's the

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Speaker 19: thinnest iPhone ever, and I will say that there are

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Speaker 19: forums on the internet that claim that it is not.

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Speaker 19: The body might be, but the camera area obviously is

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Speaker 19: quite thick, because it's kind of you know, so, is

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Speaker 19: it really the thinnest iPhone? Put that one through legal?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, are people really like is

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Speaker 3: this is where the iteration has got to It is

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Speaker 3: are people really that exercised by something that's marginally slimmer

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Speaker 3: than other versions of smartphones? Or might perform later and later?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I personally wish, like I buy the phone largely

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Speaker 19: for the camera. Obviously I use it to you know,

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Speaker 19: I even talk to you on this on my iPhone,

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Speaker 19: But like, the draw for me is the camera. But

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Speaker 19: if you could put that same camera in a significantly

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Speaker 19: smaller phone, and I mean with and height kind of smaller,

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Speaker 19: not thinner, don't care, I would be very happy. That

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Speaker 19: would be a dream. I don't want the big who

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Speaker 19: wants that big max one. That's crazy, do you But

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Speaker 19: do you know one of the reasons they made the

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Speaker 19: iPhone ear possible was one as they have been building

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Speaker 19: their own chips for mobile for quite some time, so

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Speaker 19: the actual processor it runs on is made by Apple

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Speaker 19: that silicon, but they also now are doing their own modems,

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Speaker 19: and so that innovation, plus the fact that they got

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Speaker 19: rid of the SIM card slot, which takes up a

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Speaker 19: fair amount of space in the side, has meant that

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Speaker 19: that whole body in the middle is now just all battery.

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Speaker 19: And the thing that caught my eye about them going

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Speaker 19: getting rid of the SIM card and going all in

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Speaker 19: on eSIM is great because I don't know if you've

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Speaker 19: ever tried to change phone providers, but it's a bit

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Speaker 19: of a nightmare. eSIM makes it so much easier.

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Speaker 2: You still have to do.

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Speaker 19: The number porting thing and blah blah blah, but it

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Speaker 19: just the fact you don't have to go into a

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Speaker 19: store and buy that silly little chip and all that stuff.

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Speaker 19: But also, if you're going overseas, you don't need to

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Speaker 19: pay your current carrier the roaming charges. You just go

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Speaker 19: overseas and you can buy eSIMs just directly on your

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Speaker 19: phone to get roaming data, you pay significantly less than

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Speaker 19: what you would if you were doing the kind of

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Speaker 19: you know sometimes like five dollars a day and stuff

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Speaker 19: like that, right, or ten dollars a gig and crazy numbers.

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Speaker 3: And so I do that when I when I go

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Speaker 3: overseas often I'll buy a physical sim card, like if

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Speaker 3: I'm somewhere. Yeah, right, So you could go to say

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Speaker 3: Jack and Paul were going on holiday together to Columbia.

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Speaker 3: Lucky Jackeman. I know it would be nice, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 3: So we go to Columbia, we arrive in Columbia, and

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Speaker 3: upon arrival we can just use the Wi Fi at

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Speaker 3: the hotel to buy an ESOM, which we then installs

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Speaker 3: kind of automatically on our phone and then means that

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Speaker 3: you're paying local rates as opposed to paying international roaming.

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Speaker 3: But if someone were to text Jack or Paul from

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Speaker 3: back in your subbit or in the US to our

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Speaker 3: normal number, it still comes through to us, it does.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, And if you're using I message it still will

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Speaker 19: as well because you've got that data. So because you

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Speaker 19: can run you can run now multiple numbers on your

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Speaker 19: on your device. You could even have two lines. Yeah,

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Speaker 19: people over here have, you know, like a work number

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Speaker 19: and a personal number both on the on their iPhone

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Speaker 19: and you can be on different carriers too.

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Speaker 20: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This is one of the thing for anyone who has

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Speaker 3: a work phone in a personal phone. You can actually

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Speaker 3: have them both on the same phone.

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Speaker 12: You can.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: So look, I think that one was kind of like, Okay,

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Speaker 19: that's good, that's kind of exciting. It's good because I

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Speaker 19: think as well it will it will also just kind

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Speaker 19: of force the providers into thinking eSIM first, which I

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Speaker 19: think will then kind of make it easier and drive

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Speaker 19: adoption and all of that good stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Spotify, and it's making some big changes that have

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Speaker 3: long been signaled. Finally, it's music quality is stepping up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: And here's here's something you don't hear every day. They

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Speaker 19: won't be charging you extra for that improvement too, which

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Speaker 19: is quite nice, isn't it. So they are rolling out

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Speaker 19: their kind of high fi lossless audio offering, which some

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Speaker 19: of the other services have had now for quite some time.

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Speaker 19: I mean, they first talked about this is coming later

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Speaker 19: this year in twenty twenty one. It's twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 19: so you know, good news. So they're going to be

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Speaker 19: rolling it out to fifty markets around the world. Good

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Speaker 19: news New Zealand is on that list. You'll get a

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Speaker 19: push alert if you're a if you're a Spotify subscriber

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Speaker 19: to say that you can now turn it on. And

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Speaker 19: that's the key part. You actually have to manually turn

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Speaker 19: it on you go into your setting, So look up

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Speaker 19: for that, but it should be coming in the next

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Speaker 19: couple of months.

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Speaker 3: Oh nice. And Microsoft co Pilot, which is the big

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Speaker 3: program being used increasingly by businesses. You know, for anyone

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Speaker 3: who's used the kind of outlook and Microsoft word the

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Speaker 3: suite of products that now has specialist AI agents. So

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Speaker 3: for any it doesn't understand what an AI agent is,

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Speaker 3: do you just want to start there.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, So it's a specialist kind of chatbot that can

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Speaker 19: do very particular things. So what Microsoft has kind of

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Speaker 19: made a little bit confusing. They've had the Copilot thing,

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Speaker 19: which is kind of for everyone, and then they had

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Speaker 19: these other agents you could buy that you actually have

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Speaker 19: to pay additional subscriptions to. So now you can get

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Speaker 19: them effectively for free because they're all included in copilots.

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Speaker 19: You're going to save a little bit of money. But

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Speaker 19: as an example, the finance agent for example. You think

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Speaker 19: of your agent like a person, a virtual assistant. So

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Speaker 19: it can now integrate into your enterprise resource planning system,

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Speaker 19: your ERP, something like SAP. How many acronyms can I

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Speaker 19: throwout you so you can effectively connect your accounting system.

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Speaker 19: Let's let's put it that way into that and then

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Speaker 19: you can ask your questions directly in Copilot or Excel

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Speaker 19: or Outlook. So imagine you needed to send an email

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Speaker 19: to a client requesting payment, for example, you could say,

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Speaker 19: draft me the email, It'll go away, grab the data

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Speaker 19: from SAP, put it into your email, and then could

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Speaker 19: even mark offer to do checklist in an Excel spreadsheet.

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Speaker 19: That's the type of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, so pretty neat.

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Speaker 19: So they've got them for sales, they've got them for

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Speaker 19: service to customer, service and finance, so certainly help people.

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Speaker 3: Hey what phone are you rocking at the moment, Paul.

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Speaker 6: I think I'm on it.

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Speaker 3: See that's telling, isn't it? Or a sixteen that's telling

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Speaker 3: the fact that you say you being the biggest tech

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Speaker 3: geek I know, say, I think that shows you how

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Speaker 3: much smartphones haven't really changed over the last few years.

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Speaker 19: I hold onto mind so much longer, I really do.

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Speaker 19: You know, the only reason I upgrade is because I

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Speaker 19: give my old one to my parents. And you know,

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Speaker 19: if I'm on a two year cycle, that means one

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Speaker 19: of the parents is on a four six year cycle.

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Speaker 3: Right, So you know I'm on an iPhone eleven. So yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:08:42,093 --> 01:08:43,613
Speaker 3: so I've got to after as soon as I get

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Speaker 3: off the line to you here, I'm going to fire

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Speaker 3: up the coal powered furnace and I'm gonna I'm gonna.

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Speaker 12: Reach You're going to a year.

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Speaker 19: It's really hard to know that orange color is pretty

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Speaker 19: cool on the prouce.

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Speaker 3: I mean, my problem is that the older they get,

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Speaker 3: with the more computing power they supposedly need, I'm convinced

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Speaker 3: that these companies stop giving them the you know, they

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Speaker 3: stop giving them the security upgrades and things they need.

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Speaker 3: So my one can still receive all the security upgrades,

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Speaker 3: but not for much longer. So maybe I'll have to

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Speaker 3: update it sometime soon.

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Speaker 19: Hey, treat yourself, Jack, treat.

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Speaker 3: I don't know in this economy, Paul, Hey, thank You've

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Speaker 3: spoken like a man who doesn't have a six month

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Speaker 3: old who's eating his way through half the house already.

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Speaker 3: Paustine House is our text butert of course, right now

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Speaker 3: at sixteen to eleven our Master Somelier with his wine

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Speaker 3: pick of the week.

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Speaker 2: Next, no better way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Morning with Jack, Team News Talk said,

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Speaker 1: there you go, Amanda's on twitch.

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Speaker 3: Jack, we activate our e sims just as we're boarding

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Speaker 3: a plane. How about that? Used it in the States

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Speaker 3: in May, using it in Portugal next week? Gee, tough

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Speaker 3: life for you, Amanda states in Portugal than one year.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, it does sound does sound really useful though,

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Speaker 3: kind of amazing that it's taken this long for them

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Speaker 3: to get that technology for cell phones really right, that

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Speaker 3: we're still kind of using the physical sim cards for phones.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Ninety two ninety two is our text

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Speaker 3: number if you want to get in touch with us.

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Speaker 3: This morning. Cameron Douglas is Master somlie and this week

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Speaker 3: for his wine pick, he's chosen a Tiki single Vineyard

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Speaker 3: pen and whil Rose. The vintage is twenty twenty four

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Speaker 3: from North Canterbury and retail for about twenty six dollars.

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Speaker 3: Celda Cameron CURLTA good morning, So talk to us a

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Speaker 3: little bit. First of all about this rose's color. How

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Speaker 3: do you think about the right color for rose wines?

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Speaker 21: Well, the truth is there's only one document that I've

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Speaker 21: seen online that displays the different range of colors for rose.

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Speaker 21: So what that means in an instant is that all

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Speaker 21: colors of rose are valid. But the trend, of course

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Speaker 21: at the moment is people who target wines that have

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Speaker 21: that pale, anemic looking salmon color. And it's a valid color,

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Speaker 21: but it's not the only color. I've tasted fabulous New

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Speaker 21: Zealand and international examples that are quite raspberry red through

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Speaker 21: to a deeper red color, through to almost pale, pale

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Speaker 21: salmon pink. You know, it's that there is a range

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Speaker 21: and all colors are acceptable. But I also have to

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Speaker 21: accept that most of the samples that cross my desk

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Speaker 21: these days are quite sort of that salmon apricot color,

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Speaker 21: and the wines can taste fabulous.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So tell us about the Tiki single vineyard pin

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Speaker 3: and Wi rose.

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Speaker 21: Well, it's coming, you know, we're in spring. Touchwood and

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Speaker 21: smers just around the corner, and roses are wines that

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Speaker 21: are very very popular. Tiki as a single vineyard pen

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Speaker 21: and rose struck me as one of a bouquet of

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Speaker 21: ripeness and freshness, and it was a rose of complexity

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Speaker 21: as style, and very few roses can have the sense

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Speaker 21: of sight around them, so that minerality or earthiness that

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Speaker 21: we tend to find as an echo through wine is

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Speaker 21: quite strong with the teki rose. Lots of flavors of tea,

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Speaker 21: raspberry and roses and even some tropical fruits, so it

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Speaker 21: ticks all the boxes in terms of aromatics and flavors.

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Speaker 21: But of course taste and mouthfeel are important as well,

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Speaker 21: and I find this one had a nice little satin

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Speaker 21: touch with a backbone of acidity, so very very nice wine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah nice. It was twenty twenty four a good season.

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Speaker 21: Overall, it was very good. I think the South Island

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Speaker 21: fed a little better than the North Island. There was

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Speaker 21: a bit of frost around, but overall I think North

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Speaker 21: Canterbury and Central Otago combined got the love the most,

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Speaker 21: and there was a little bit of hail and whatnot,

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Speaker 21: but it tended to achieve above average yields and wine

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Speaker 21: makers spoke about really how happy they were. Overall.

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Speaker 3: Very good. What would you match this weather? Do you think?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 21: Rosees a wine that sort of weaves in and out

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Speaker 21: a lot of different foods, so you can match it

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Speaker 21: with almost anything except probably big red steaks, but even

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Speaker 21: then it can work quite well. I think rose is

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Speaker 21: well suited to dishes that relatively complex or have quite

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Speaker 21: a strong flavor underpin of gentle spices, even a little

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Speaker 21: bit of sugar. But cheeseboards absolutely yes, minnestrone soup, absolutely yes.

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Speaker 21: If you have a cheeseboard with figs and apricots and

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Speaker 21: strawberries and things like that on this summer, you'll be

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Speaker 21: talking magic with a rose match.

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Speaker 3: And if you like.

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Speaker 21: Fish, flaky whitefish, little caper butter sauce and champagne ham

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Speaker 21: on Christmas Day, you can't go wrong.

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Speaker 3: That's fantastic, all right. So Cameron's wine for us this

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Speaker 3: week is a Tiki single vineyard Pino noir rose. The

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Speaker 3: vintage is twenty twenty four retails from about twenty six dollars.

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Speaker 3: We'll make sure the details of that are up on

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Speaker 3: the news talks he'd be website, and he says make

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Speaker 3: sure that if you are enjoying a rose, you should

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01:14:04,453 --> 01:14:07,253
Speaker 3: serve it between ten and twelve degrees. Don't over chill it.

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01:14:07,493 --> 01:14:10,533
Speaker 3: Too Many of us freeze our roses and you lose

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Speaker 3: some of the complexity, So don't over chill your rose.

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Speaker 3: Nine to eleven, we're in the garden, next.

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Speaker 5: Gardling with still shops battery system kits.

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Speaker 2: Get a second battery half price.

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Speaker 3: Road climb passes our man in the garden. Good morning,

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Speaker 3: A good morning Jack.

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Speaker 20: You're right gardening time, Thank.

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Speaker 3: You, isn't it. Yeah, it's time to time to create

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Speaker 3: the work a little bit. That's why we got you

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Speaker 3: in this morning saying that.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, so that's it, so okay. So I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 20: I'm one of the slowest persons. I'm slower than continental

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01:14:39,813 --> 01:14:42,773
Speaker 20: drifts sometimes when it comes to making decisions. But here

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01:14:42,813 --> 01:14:46,253
Speaker 20: are a couple of freely important ones. My table house

1441
01:14:46,333 --> 01:14:48,773
Speaker 20: always gets dirty at the top, and it's grime and

1442
01:14:48,853 --> 01:14:52,373
Speaker 20: elgae and rubbish, and to be quite honest, that stops

1443
01:14:52,653 --> 01:14:57,173
Speaker 20: the light coming in and making photosynthesis opening because it's

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01:14:57,373 --> 01:15:00,653
Speaker 20: slightly darker than normal, or quite a bit darker than normal.

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01:15:01,493 --> 01:15:04,693
Speaker 20: Very simple with me. I'm from the old wedding forget stable.

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01:15:04,773 --> 01:15:07,493
Speaker 20: So I put the rebit on and literally get rid

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01:15:07,573 --> 01:15:11,453
Speaker 20: of the stuff on top of my plastic cover. And

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01:15:11,533 --> 01:15:14,213
Speaker 20: that's It's just an important thing. You need to do

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01:15:14,253 --> 01:15:20,253
Speaker 20: every year. So that's number one. Number two seeds, cuttings, bulbs,

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01:15:20,613 --> 01:15:22,733
Speaker 20: all that sort of stuff is too. Is something you

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01:15:22,773 --> 01:15:25,733
Speaker 20: need to get now because from now on the best

1452
01:15:25,933 --> 01:15:29,533
Speaker 20: growth of new cuttings will be between now and Christmas.

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01:15:29,853 --> 01:15:32,173
Speaker 20: I know it's in some areas it's a bit slower,

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01:15:32,253 --> 01:15:34,973
Speaker 20: but you know what I mean as an awkward you know,

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01:15:35,053 --> 01:15:37,373
Speaker 20: especially in Awkland, you can have a go right now.

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01:15:37,653 --> 01:15:40,573
Speaker 20: Everything will develop to a great young plant. And if

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01:15:40,573 --> 01:15:42,973
Speaker 20: you do it now, you'll be fine. You'll have to

1458
01:15:43,373 --> 01:15:46,013
Speaker 20: start doing that right now. That's a very important point.

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01:15:47,373 --> 01:15:50,773
Speaker 20: Do you know have you do you ever use seed

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01:15:50,853 --> 01:15:51,453
Speaker 20: raising mix?

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01:15:51,773 --> 01:15:53,493
Speaker 3: I don't, no.

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Speaker 20: See this is funny because I never used either, because

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01:15:56,813 --> 01:15:59,213
Speaker 20: I used popping mix and things. But I had come

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01:15:59,253 --> 01:16:01,933
Speaker 20: to the conclusion that seed raising mix is actually very good.

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01:16:02,093 --> 01:16:04,373
Speaker 20: Especially is what we just talked about seeds and bulbs

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Speaker 20: and cuttings. Because seed raising the seed raising mixes got

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01:16:08,813 --> 01:16:12,133
Speaker 20: the right NPK and as long as you don't over

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01:16:12,253 --> 01:16:16,293
Speaker 20: water it, make sure don't go over the top, don't

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01:16:16,293 --> 01:16:19,253
Speaker 20: overwater it. But seed raising mix is the one that

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Speaker 20: the quickest way to get your young plants to grow

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Speaker 20: and when they're a bit bigger, you can start putting

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Speaker 20: phosphors on and potation nitrogen if you need to, depending

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01:16:28,733 --> 01:16:31,693
Speaker 20: on watches. But now, is seed raising mix always good?

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01:16:32,013 --> 01:16:32,253
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:16:32,293 --> 01:16:33,133
Speaker 20: I recommend that.

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01:16:33,213 --> 01:16:34,493
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, that's the one.

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01:16:34,653 --> 01:16:40,693
Speaker 20: Number Number three lazy me hedges. The problem with hedges

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01:16:40,773 --> 01:16:42,573
Speaker 20: is no, it's not a problem. The problem with me.

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01:16:42,733 --> 01:16:46,493
Speaker 20: It's that if you don't do your hedges on a

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01:16:46,533 --> 01:16:50,693
Speaker 20: regular basis, they become quite open, if you like. If

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01:16:50,733 --> 01:16:55,053
Speaker 20: you prune them regularly, the hedges will become a lot denser.

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01:16:55,133 --> 01:16:58,493
Speaker 20: They get far more site shuts down below, and that

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01:16:58,653 --> 01:17:01,893
Speaker 20: means your head becomes really nice and dense. So I

1484
01:17:01,933 --> 01:17:04,613
Speaker 20: think it's really important to realize, even though it might

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01:17:04,653 --> 01:17:06,773
Speaker 20: be still cool and it doesn't grow over, you will

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01:17:07,213 --> 01:17:12,533
Speaker 20: start ruining it right now late August great from now on,

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01:17:12,653 --> 01:17:15,133
Speaker 20: and then October and again in December if you like,

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01:17:15,253 --> 01:17:15,973
Speaker 20: and you trim.

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01:17:15,893 --> 01:17:17,413
Speaker 2: Them the whole time through.

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01:17:17,773 --> 01:17:22,293
Speaker 20: Yeah, right, And number four is very Number five is

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01:17:22,413 --> 01:17:25,493
Speaker 20: very simple. I've got some trees that are still without leaves,

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01:17:25,533 --> 01:17:28,933
Speaker 20: and that's okay because if you now climb on your ladder,

1493
01:17:29,013 --> 01:17:32,133
Speaker 20: you can actually see where the branches are very easily,

1494
01:17:32,413 --> 01:17:33,213
Speaker 20: and you can then.

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01:17:33,133 --> 01:17:36,293
Speaker 12: Prune them and shape them exactly how you want.

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01:17:36,053 --> 01:17:40,013
Speaker 20: Them, and that is really important because then you can

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01:17:40,053 --> 01:17:42,053
Speaker 20: make them as beautiful as you want.

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Speaker 3: Nice how you repleased tonight that the eight year old

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Speaker 3: and may go out every morning and we've been mapping

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Speaker 3: over the last couple of weeks, every morning, going out

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Speaker 3: and watching the magnolia bushes now front yard and saying

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01:17:53,773 --> 01:17:56,893
Speaker 3: is today, yesterday? The day is today? The day Tuesday

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01:17:56,973 --> 01:17:59,613
Speaker 3: was the day the first blow metag And of course

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01:17:59,693 --> 01:18:01,533
Speaker 3: you know, once onegos, they all go, so you know,

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01:18:01,533 --> 01:18:04,573
Speaker 3: it becomes a it's like a contagion and the best

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01:18:04,573 --> 01:18:07,093
Speaker 3: possible way. So yes, as you say, bring us upon us,

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01:18:07,133 --> 01:18:09,853
Speaker 3: now is the time to act. Beg you sir, route

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01:18:09,853 --> 01:18:12,893
Speaker 3: compass in the garden for us after eleven o'clock on

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01:18:12,933 --> 01:18:17,733
Speaker 3: News Talks HEDB. Exercise that matches your personality type and

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Speaker 3: might help you to stick with it a bit longer.

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Speaker 3: Plus that new album from Ed Sheeran. News is next

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Speaker 3: though it's almost eleven. This is News Talks ed.

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Speaker 2: B Saturday morning with Jack dam keeping.

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Speaker 1: The conversation going through the weekend News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Chod and you say, look, good morning, welcome to News

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01:18:57,973 --> 01:19:00,213
Speaker 3: Talk's ed B. If you're just turning us on this morning.

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01:19:00,253 --> 01:19:02,613
Speaker 3: We've missed you, but no dramas. Great to have you

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Speaker 3: with us. I'm here through to midday today. The protests

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01:19:06,933 --> 01:19:11,613
Speaker 3: or march in downtown Auckland for Palestine is continuing this morning.

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Speaker 3: I've been looking at the pictures that are coming through

1521
01:19:14,373 --> 01:19:16,613
Speaker 3: from the scene. I mean, there are clearly thousands of

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01:19:16,653 --> 01:19:19,493
Speaker 3: people who have turned out. There are some counter protests

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Speaker 3: from Destiny's Church. Apparently the people on the Palestinian side

1524
01:19:23,333 --> 01:19:25,493
Speaker 3: of the march have been told not to interact too

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Speaker 3: much with the Destiny's Church people. At the moment, at

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Speaker 3: the very least, it all seems to be relatively civil,

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Speaker 3: so no big confrontations between the groups. Of course. The

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01:19:34,413 --> 01:19:36,533
Speaker 3: march had been originally planned to go over the Auckland

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01:19:36,573 --> 01:19:38,093
Speaker 3: Harbor Bridge. There have been a couple of techs that

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01:19:38,133 --> 01:19:40,173
Speaker 3: have come through this morning from people who said that

1531
01:19:40,173 --> 01:19:42,813
Speaker 3: they've been planning to march and going over the bridge,

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01:19:43,093 --> 01:19:46,333
Speaker 3: but once the organizers had to change their plans because

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01:19:46,333 --> 01:19:49,333
Speaker 3: of the weather forecast and the strong winds that have

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01:19:49,413 --> 01:19:52,293
Speaker 3: been forecast for today, they said they decided not to

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Speaker 3: turn out. So interesting to kind of compare the numbers

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01:19:54,413 --> 01:19:56,653
Speaker 3: have turned out today relative to what might have been

1537
01:19:56,693 --> 01:19:58,933
Speaker 3: if they had been marching over the bridge anyway, I

1538
01:19:59,013 --> 01:20:00,733
Speaker 3: will make sure to keep you up to speed over

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01:20:00,773 --> 01:20:03,933
Speaker 3: the next hour or so as that event continues this morning,

1540
01:20:04,293 --> 01:20:06,893
Speaker 3: don't forget before midday. We've got new music from Edge

1541
01:20:06,893 --> 01:20:09,253
Speaker 3: here and to play you. He's just released his latest album.

1542
01:20:09,333 --> 01:20:12,373
Speaker 3: The album's called Play. It's shot to the top of

1543
01:20:12,373 --> 01:20:14,853
Speaker 3: the charts. So I'm going to pick out a couple

1544
01:20:14,893 --> 01:20:17,413
Speaker 3: of bangers, and our music reviewer will be here with

1545
01:20:17,453 --> 01:20:19,453
Speaker 3: her thoughts on that very shortly. Right now, though it's

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01:20:19,453 --> 01:20:24,293
Speaker 3: eight past eleven, Google Sutherland from Umbrella Wellbeing is with

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01:20:24,413 --> 01:20:27,253
Speaker 3: us this morning, and although he usually focuses on what's

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01:20:27,293 --> 01:20:30,093
Speaker 3: going on in our heads, this morning he's focusing on

1549
01:20:30,453 --> 01:20:32,973
Speaker 3: the ways in which what's going on in our heads

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01:20:33,093 --> 01:20:36,573
Speaker 3: is influenced by the rest of our body. Good morning, Google,

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01:20:37,813 --> 01:20:38,493
Speaker 3: Cura Jack.

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Speaker 15: Yes, and hopefully I might be able to take some

1553
01:20:40,573 --> 01:20:44,533
Speaker 15: tips for myself out of today's session. It's always good

1554
01:20:44,533 --> 01:20:48,053
Speaker 15: to what is the same physician heal thyself. I'm always

1555
01:20:48,253 --> 01:20:51,373
Speaker 15: trying to get better at my physical well being. As

1556
01:20:51,493 --> 01:20:54,253
Speaker 15: I get a little bit older in years, it's become

1557
01:20:54,333 --> 01:20:55,333
Speaker 15: more to the four for me.

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01:20:55,453 --> 01:20:58,333
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I'm the same. I mean, I've always

1559
01:20:58,333 --> 01:21:00,093
Speaker 3: been a big kind of routine guy. And I know

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01:21:00,133 --> 01:21:03,373
Speaker 3: that's not the sexiest thing to say, but I find

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01:21:03,373 --> 01:21:06,253
Speaker 3: that if I don't get good exercise, even after a

1562
01:21:06,373 --> 01:21:08,493
Speaker 3: couple of days, I start to get a bit ratty.

1563
01:21:08,933 --> 01:21:10,573
Speaker 3: And so I try and get you know, half an

1564
01:21:10,573 --> 01:21:13,093
Speaker 3: hour's exercise five or six times a week if possible,

1565
01:21:13,373 --> 01:21:15,573
Speaker 3: you know, in a dream, in a dream scenario. But

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01:21:15,613 --> 01:21:17,293
Speaker 3: it's not so much what it does for my body.

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01:21:17,293 --> 01:21:21,133
Speaker 3: It's honestly what it does my head. Exercise is so

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01:21:21,213 --> 01:21:22,213
Speaker 3: important for my head.

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01:21:23,373 --> 01:21:28,413
Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely, I'm the same. I usually start the day

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01:21:28,453 --> 01:21:31,213
Speaker 15: with a sort of a forty five minute walk about

1571
01:21:31,253 --> 01:21:34,333
Speaker 15: six o'clock, and that's I find that's just a really

1572
01:21:34,333 --> 01:21:38,253
Speaker 15: great time mentally for me, and I'd probably go so

1573
01:21:38,253 --> 01:21:40,853
Speaker 15: far as to say spiritually for me, it's just a

1574
01:21:40,893 --> 01:21:44,413
Speaker 15: really nice time of connecting and sort of noticing your

1575
01:21:44,413 --> 01:21:47,533
Speaker 15: place in the world, connecting with something bigger than yourself.

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01:21:48,173 --> 01:21:50,733
Speaker 15: And I know, you know, like you, If I haven't

1577
01:21:50,773 --> 01:21:52,253
Speaker 15: done it for a day or two, I start to

1578
01:21:52,253 --> 01:21:54,933
Speaker 15: feel out of sorts and usually takes me a while

1579
01:21:54,973 --> 01:21:57,973
Speaker 15: to figure out while why I might feel out of sorts,

1580
01:21:58,013 --> 01:21:59,693
Speaker 15: but it's like, oh, yeah, I actually haven't been out

1581
01:21:59,733 --> 01:22:02,053
Speaker 15: for that morning walk for the last two days because

1582
01:22:02,093 --> 01:22:03,693
Speaker 15: of weather or travel or whatever. It is.

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01:22:03,933 --> 01:22:06,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting though how some people are able to stay

1584
01:22:06,533 --> 01:22:09,773
Speaker 3: with exercise habits more than others. And a new study

1585
01:22:09,813 --> 01:22:13,533
Speaker 3: from the UK has looked at how personality traits might

1586
01:22:13,573 --> 01:22:14,133
Speaker 3: impact that.

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01:22:15,053 --> 01:22:17,653
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's right, it's and and when when When you

1588
01:22:17,733 --> 01:22:20,213
Speaker 15: read it, it does kind of make some pretty good sense.

1589
01:22:20,933 --> 01:22:24,693
Speaker 15: But but I thought quick sidebar useful to explain the

1590
01:22:24,773 --> 01:22:28,573
Speaker 15: personality traits that we're talking about, because you know, every

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01:22:28,733 --> 01:22:32,173
Speaker 15: every sort of seemingly every few months, there's new kind

1592
01:22:32,173 --> 01:22:35,533
Speaker 15: of you know, you'll see something new, particularly on social

1593
01:22:35,613 --> 01:22:38,853
Speaker 15: media feeds around this. You know, have you discovered your

1594
01:22:38,853 --> 01:22:41,893
Speaker 15: personality type? You know, we're all apples and those people

1595
01:22:41,933 --> 01:22:45,053
Speaker 15: are oranges, and it's like, I think that's a personality type.

1596
01:22:45,413 --> 01:22:47,573
Speaker 15: So it is an area that's a bit prone to

1597
01:22:48,813 --> 01:22:52,853
Speaker 15: sort of pop psychology, you know, trend. So, but there

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01:22:52,893 --> 01:22:53,973
Speaker 15: are five.

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Speaker 20: Five what we'd call.

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01:22:56,373 --> 01:23:01,013
Speaker 15: Personality traits that are pretty accepted and have been accepted

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01:23:01,013 --> 01:23:03,333
Speaker 15: for a long time. They're called the Big five and

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01:23:03,373 --> 01:23:07,333
Speaker 15: then known by the acronym ocean and so that's that's

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01:23:07,453 --> 01:23:09,413
Speaker 15: there's five of those. So that the first the O

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01:23:09,773 --> 01:23:13,733
Speaker 15: is openness. So how willing am I to try new things?

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01:23:14,173 --> 01:23:16,613
Speaker 15: And remembering that these are all kind of continuum, so

1606
01:23:16,653 --> 01:23:18,853
Speaker 15: you could be high in this or low in this.

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01:23:19,053 --> 01:23:22,533
Speaker 15: So how how how open am I willing to try

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Speaker 15: new things? Conscientiousness? And I wonder whether you and I

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01:23:25,853 --> 01:23:29,013
Speaker 15: are quite high in this? So this is organized, dependable, reliable,

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01:23:29,013 --> 01:23:31,973
Speaker 15: were like routines and structures and the same thing roughly

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01:23:32,013 --> 01:23:35,773
Speaker 15: at the same time every day, which which I definitely

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Speaker 15: kind of class myself as the extraversion. And I think

1613
01:23:40,853 --> 01:23:45,613
Speaker 15: people are pretty familiar with the extrovert introvert continuum. So

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01:23:45,973 --> 01:23:50,253
Speaker 15: extraversion extraversion is how outgoing, how sociable we are? Where

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01:23:50,253 --> 01:23:52,613
Speaker 15: do we get our energy from? Is it from interacting

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01:23:52,653 --> 01:23:55,453
Speaker 15: with other people? Or is it from sort of downtime,

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01:23:55,493 --> 01:23:58,573
Speaker 15: which is downtime by ourselves, which is much more introverted.

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01:23:59,653 --> 01:24:02,173
Speaker 15: The fourth one is agreeableness, So that's how kind and

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01:24:02,293 --> 01:24:06,973
Speaker 15: pathic cooperative I am? How how you know agreeable in

1620
01:24:07,013 --> 01:24:10,573
Speaker 15: a sense am I with other people? How can I

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01:24:10,613 --> 01:24:13,613
Speaker 15: see their point of view or you know, get alongside them?

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01:24:14,013 --> 01:24:17,653
Speaker 15: And then lastly, neuroticism or that's a little bit of

1623
01:24:17,653 --> 01:24:19,973
Speaker 15: an old fashioned tern You could easily replace that with

1624
01:24:20,173 --> 01:24:23,573
Speaker 15: just how nervous are you? How much do you tend

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01:24:23,573 --> 01:24:26,093
Speaker 15: to worry or experience negative emotion?

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Speaker 3: Now A technology love a better technology when it goes well.

1628
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Speaker 3: So Google was talking us through the different personality types

1629
01:24:38,493 --> 01:24:44,253
Speaker 3: that can apparently dictate the ways in which different exercise

1630
01:24:44,333 --> 01:24:46,893
Speaker 3: routines do or don't work for you. So to remind

1631
01:24:46,933 --> 01:24:49,573
Speaker 3: you once again, openness, which is your willingness to try

1632
01:24:49,613 --> 01:24:55,773
Speaker 3: new things, conscientiousness, organized, dependable, reliable, extraversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism,

1633
01:24:55,813 --> 01:24:58,453
Speaker 3: which Google reckons was not really a term that we

1634
01:24:58,533 --> 01:25:00,653
Speaker 3: use that much, but basically, how anxious do you get?

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01:25:00,973 --> 01:25:02,893
Speaker 3: He is back with us Now we've got everything back

1636
01:25:02,933 --> 01:25:07,093
Speaker 3: up and running. We think, good morning, Yes, here back again.

1637
01:25:07,133 --> 01:25:07,933
Speaker 3: I could hear you, but.

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Speaker 15: You couldn't hear me.

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01:25:09,533 --> 01:25:13,253
Speaker 3: It's very strange. So the so the old acronym ocean

1640
01:25:13,573 --> 01:25:16,693
Speaker 3: describes the different personality traits, But how do you then

1641
01:25:16,693 --> 01:25:18,613
Speaker 3: apply those to different exercises?

1642
01:25:18,973 --> 01:25:21,253
Speaker 15: Yeah, and look, I think people will have you know,

1643
01:25:21,573 --> 01:25:23,773
Speaker 15: when you think about those sort of those big five,

1644
01:25:23,853 --> 01:25:25,773
Speaker 15: I think most people kind of have a will have

1645
01:25:25,933 --> 01:25:28,293
Speaker 15: sort of summnate sense of where they are on that.

1646
01:25:28,653 --> 01:25:32,613
Speaker 15: So look, three things. Three takeaway points. Those people who

1647
01:25:32,653 --> 01:25:36,653
Speaker 15: are highly conscientious look that. So remember those are the

1648
01:25:36,693 --> 01:25:40,653
Speaker 15: sort of the organized, dependable relival. They're more likely to

1649
01:25:40,653 --> 01:25:43,573
Speaker 15: be a bit fitter to start with, probably because people

1650
01:25:43,693 --> 01:25:45,893
Speaker 15: like us are you know, we get into our rougine

1651
01:25:45,893 --> 01:25:47,973
Speaker 15: and we keep that rougine even when we might not

1652
01:25:48,093 --> 01:25:52,533
Speaker 15: want to, and more likely to log more exercise hours

1653
01:25:52,573 --> 01:25:55,733
Speaker 15: per week. So and that makes some sense. So if

1654
01:25:55,813 --> 01:25:59,133
Speaker 15: you are higher and that sort of you're sorry in

1655
01:25:59,173 --> 01:26:03,413
Speaker 15: that conscientious conscientiousness scale, you tend to be able to

1656
01:26:03,453 --> 01:26:06,573
Speaker 15: stick get to a plan and stick to it. So

1657
01:26:06,933 --> 01:26:09,253
Speaker 15: that's you know, that's an advantage. If you know that

1658
01:26:09,253 --> 01:26:12,413
Speaker 15: that's sort of the personality style you are, then the

1659
01:26:12,453 --> 01:26:14,093
Speaker 15: best thing you can probably do is get into a

1660
01:26:14,093 --> 01:26:17,413
Speaker 15: good habit, make some habits around your fitness, and you'll

1661
01:26:17,413 --> 01:26:21,013
Speaker 15: probably stick to them quite easily. So that's one takeaway, right,

1662
01:26:23,253 --> 01:26:25,373
Speaker 15: people who at the second takeaway, people who are more

1663
01:26:25,453 --> 01:26:29,413
Speaker 15: extroverted tend to enjoy kind of more high intensity workouts,

1664
01:26:29,453 --> 01:26:30,853
Speaker 15: you know, the spin.

1665
01:26:30,733 --> 01:26:32,853
Speaker 3: Classes and the command everybody, let's go.

1666
01:26:34,133 --> 01:26:36,533
Speaker 15: And again that makes some sort of sense. So if

1667
01:26:36,573 --> 01:26:39,253
Speaker 15: you feel like you're high in that, then maybe that's

1668
01:26:39,293 --> 01:26:41,893
Speaker 15: the type of workout that you should be looking for.

1669
01:26:41,933 --> 01:26:44,093
Speaker 15: With there's lots of energy, lots of pumping up, lots

1670
01:26:44,133 --> 01:26:48,253
Speaker 15: of enthusiasm. You might not quite get the same. You

1671
01:26:48,333 --> 01:26:50,653
Speaker 15: might not find it so easy to stick to something

1672
01:26:50,773 --> 01:26:53,853
Speaker 15: if it's sort of solitary or walking around, you know,

1673
01:26:53,893 --> 01:26:56,133
Speaker 15: the streets of Wellington by yourself at six o'clock in

1674
01:26:56,173 --> 01:26:58,133
Speaker 15: the morning, that might not be your thing so much.

1675
01:26:58,213 --> 01:27:01,213
Speaker 15: So again thinking about can I find something that really

1676
01:27:01,293 --> 01:27:03,493
Speaker 15: fits the sense of extraversion for me?

1677
01:27:04,013 --> 01:27:04,253
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1678
01:27:04,333 --> 01:27:04,573
Speaker 3: Right?

1679
01:27:05,493 --> 01:27:08,133
Speaker 15: And then the last one neuroticism. So that's the or

1680
01:27:08,173 --> 01:27:12,813
Speaker 15: the nervousness, you know, tendency to worry. Interesting finding that

1681
01:27:12,813 --> 01:27:16,093
Speaker 15: that those people that are a bit neurotic tended to

1682
01:27:16,213 --> 01:27:20,533
Speaker 15: report lower enjoyment of things that took a lot of effort.

1683
01:27:20,733 --> 01:27:22,693
Speaker 15: They did them, but they didn't really like doing them,

1684
01:27:22,893 --> 01:27:25,253
Speaker 15: but they did them anyway, and I'll moan about it

1685
01:27:25,293 --> 01:27:28,813
Speaker 15: and I'll complain about it while I'm doing it. But interestingly,

1686
01:27:28,893 --> 01:27:32,093
Speaker 15: they were the group that reported the highest level of

1687
01:27:32,213 --> 01:27:37,173
Speaker 15: reduction in mental stress when they were exercising, and so

1688
01:27:37,253 --> 01:27:39,533
Speaker 15: maybe they were higher in mental and that sort of

1689
01:27:39,533 --> 01:27:42,013
Speaker 15: stress to start with. But you know, again, if you

1690
01:27:42,213 --> 01:27:43,973
Speaker 15: tend to worry, you tend to be a bit of

1691
01:27:43,973 --> 01:27:46,253
Speaker 15: a warrior, a bit of a bit of an overthinker

1692
01:27:46,293 --> 01:27:50,733
Speaker 15: about things. Maybe you know, just stick with it and actually,

1693
01:27:51,173 --> 01:27:53,533
Speaker 15: you know, get into that pattern and you'll probably find

1694
01:27:53,573 --> 01:27:57,773
Speaker 15: that physically as well as mentally, you really benefit from it.

1695
01:27:57,813 --> 01:28:00,333
Speaker 15: So I think great. The overall tip would be to

1696
01:28:00,413 --> 01:28:04,053
Speaker 15: think about how that ocean though big five apply to

1697
01:28:04,093 --> 01:28:05,933
Speaker 15: you and see if you can sort of match that

1698
01:28:06,213 --> 01:28:08,693
Speaker 15: to the type of workout that you're going to try

1699
01:28:08,693 --> 01:28:10,453
Speaker 15: and do well, the type of activity that you're going

1700
01:28:10,453 --> 01:28:10,813
Speaker 15: to try.

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01:28:10,733 --> 01:28:13,093
Speaker 3: And yeah, right, okay, that makes a lot of sense actually,

1702
01:28:13,093 --> 01:28:17,253
Speaker 3: And it's funny because they almost feel intuitive. Those outcomes

1703
01:28:17,253 --> 01:28:20,173
Speaker 3: almost feel intuitive. Is it a great surprise that the

1704
01:28:20,173 --> 01:28:24,813
Speaker 3: people who are the most extroverted love the will you know,

1705
01:28:25,253 --> 01:28:28,693
Speaker 3: rah rah big workouts and they come come on dig deeper.

1706
01:28:29,573 --> 01:28:31,453
Speaker 3: It's not at all. It's not relotely surprising.

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Speaker 15: No. Yeah, yeah, so it's good to think, you know,

1708
01:28:35,453 --> 01:28:37,413
Speaker 15: as you started off at the top saying, you know

1709
01:28:37,453 --> 01:28:41,853
Speaker 15: that our minds and our bodies we're all surprisingly enough

1710
01:28:41,893 --> 01:28:44,533
Speaker 15: wrapped up into the we're a single entity. So so

1711
01:28:44,693 --> 01:28:47,173
Speaker 15: you know, think about all parts of you, your brain

1712
01:28:47,333 --> 01:28:49,213
Speaker 15: and your body when you're trying to figure out what

1713
01:28:49,453 --> 01:28:52,013
Speaker 15: sort of the best activity or exercise for you to

1714
01:28:52,053 --> 01:28:52,933
Speaker 15: get into and stick to.

1715
01:28:53,213 --> 01:28:55,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's great. Tips. Hey, thank you so much,

1716
01:28:55,213 --> 01:28:58,053
Speaker 3: really appreciate it. Doogle appreciate you sticking with us too.

1717
01:28:58,133 --> 01:29:01,013
Speaker 3: Once the technology drops out there for a moment. Google

1718
01:29:01,093 --> 01:29:05,133
Speaker 3: Sutherland is of course a clinical psychologist with Umbrella Well Being,

1719
01:29:05,133 --> 01:29:08,613
Speaker 3: will make sure that's Suddy and Google's outcomes are up

1720
01:29:08,613 --> 01:29:10,413
Speaker 3: on the news talks. He'd be web type right now.

1721
01:29:10,453 --> 01:29:14,293
Speaker 3: It's twenty past eleven, Jack teams. We're talking travel. Our

1722
01:29:14,293 --> 01:29:18,973
Speaker 3: travel correspondent is Mike Yardley. He killed a Mike. Oh

1723
01:29:19,013 --> 01:29:23,133
Speaker 3: hang one going to killed to Mike Yo. Jack trended

1724
01:29:23,173 --> 01:29:26,613
Speaker 3: down there eventually. Hey, how are you feeling? I know

1725
01:29:26,653 --> 01:29:29,613
Speaker 3: you're a you are a massive sports fan. Tonight is

1726
01:29:29,653 --> 01:29:32,013
Speaker 3: going to be a big one. So you've got you

1727
01:29:32,053 --> 01:29:34,533
Speaker 3: think you've got, uh, well, you got the Black Ferns,

1728
01:29:34,853 --> 01:29:38,293
Speaker 3: who I think kick offs at midnight tonight. Actually you've

1729
01:29:38,293 --> 01:29:40,293
Speaker 3: got Australia Argentina, which I think is at like four

1730
01:29:40,333 --> 01:29:43,373
Speaker 3: o'clock this afternoon, isn't it. So yeah, and so then

1731
01:29:43,413 --> 01:29:46,253
Speaker 3: you've got the Warriors at Sex. You've got the All

1732
01:29:46,333 --> 01:29:48,813
Speaker 3: Blacks just after seven o'clock. And then you've got the

1733
01:29:48,813 --> 01:29:51,093
Speaker 3: Black Ferns in their quarter final against South Africa. So

1734
01:29:51,133 --> 01:29:52,853
Speaker 3: how are you going to be staggering the evening?

1735
01:29:53,573 --> 01:29:57,053
Speaker 11: Oh well, I'm en route to Nepal as a spinner

1736
01:29:57,093 --> 01:29:59,853
Speaker 11: in the work Nepal, w Nepal.

1737
01:30:00,093 --> 01:30:02,773
Speaker 3: Oh my god, in time to go I'm gonna say, yeah,

1738
01:30:02,813 --> 01:30:06,613
Speaker 3: you're a brave man. Are you there for? Like yeah,

1739
01:30:07,013 --> 01:30:08,693
Speaker 3: proof best or something? Is that going.

1740
01:30:08,573 --> 01:30:12,293
Speaker 11: To be the primary purposes for you know, travel? But

1741
01:30:12,773 --> 01:30:15,093
Speaker 11: who knows, Jack, I might be your war correspondent.

1742
01:30:15,973 --> 01:30:18,173
Speaker 3: I've been looking at quite a few quinde of quite

1743
01:30:18,173 --> 01:30:19,693
Speaker 3: a bit of the reporting out of a port because

1744
01:30:19,693 --> 01:30:21,373
Speaker 3: it's sort of been under reporter over the last couple

1745
01:30:21,413 --> 01:30:23,173
Speaker 3: of days. I mean, it's always amazing to be in

1746
01:30:23,173 --> 01:30:25,573
Speaker 3: a place at a kind of turning point in history.

1747
01:30:25,613 --> 01:30:27,573
Speaker 3: So as so long as you stay safe, Mike, that

1748
01:30:27,693 --> 01:30:30,573
Speaker 3: will be. Yeah, that'll be extraordinary. But I suppose when

1749
01:30:30,573 --> 01:30:32,573
Speaker 3: it comes to viewing habits this evening that might mean

1750
01:30:32,653 --> 01:30:35,333
Speaker 3: that the Abs, the Warriors, the Black Femans have to

1751
01:30:35,373 --> 01:30:38,693
Speaker 3: take a back seat. So anyway, look look forward to you.

1752
01:30:38,853 --> 01:30:41,773
Speaker 11: I do have one prediction. I actually think the warriors

1753
01:30:41,853 --> 01:30:46,133
Speaker 11: will spink Penrith do you being pressed out next week?

1754
01:30:46,493 --> 01:30:48,333
Speaker 3: That would be there would be vintage warriors from that

1755
01:30:48,413 --> 01:30:51,173
Speaker 3: would be the way that would the way they usually

1756
01:30:51,173 --> 01:30:54,933
Speaker 3: do things. Anyway, we're talking about Prague this morning, and

1757
01:30:55,493 --> 01:30:57,533
Speaker 3: Prague is one of the world's great cities, one of

1758
01:30:57,533 --> 01:31:00,253
Speaker 3: Europe's great cities, and Old Town Square would have to

1759
01:31:00,253 --> 01:31:02,813
Speaker 3: be one of Europe's great squares, wouldn't it.

1760
01:31:03,653 --> 01:31:06,053
Speaker 11: Oh yes, Jack in the city of one hundred spy,

1761
01:31:06,613 --> 01:31:09,773
Speaker 11: spiky and showy Old Town Square. I reckon it's the

1762
01:31:09,813 --> 01:31:13,653
Speaker 11: sort of centerpiece every city in the world would cover it,

1763
01:31:13,853 --> 01:31:17,533
Speaker 11: you know, just that's so good. Obviously, it's played host

1764
01:31:17,613 --> 01:31:21,773
Speaker 11: to some remarkable moments in history, like Hattler's arrival address,

1765
01:31:21,893 --> 01:31:26,013
Speaker 11: the announcement of the Communist takeover. It is grand, it's graceful,

1766
01:31:26,133 --> 01:31:29,533
Speaker 11: and then it's sort of tessellated with curiosities like that

1767
01:31:30,213 --> 01:31:33,973
Speaker 11: ridiculously good six hundred year old astronomical clock that still

1768
01:31:34,013 --> 01:31:36,253
Speaker 11: blows my mind. I still tanking my head around it

1769
01:31:36,573 --> 01:31:39,533
Speaker 11: every time. I said, but it's so busy, there's so

1770
01:31:39,613 --> 01:31:42,573
Speaker 11: much happening. You've got that profession of the Grim Reaper

1771
01:31:42,573 --> 01:31:45,173
Speaker 11: and the twelve Apostles and the Golden Rooster, and then

1772
01:31:45,213 --> 01:31:47,813
Speaker 11: it tells the time. It tells the date in various calendars,

1773
01:31:47,853 --> 01:31:51,693
Speaker 11: including the Babylonian calendar. If you're still following that, and

1774
01:31:51,733 --> 01:31:54,453
Speaker 11: then you've got all the relative positions of the zodiac

1775
01:31:54,493 --> 01:31:58,573
Speaker 11: consolations wrapped around the clock. It really is a medieval

1776
01:31:58,733 --> 01:31:59,573
Speaker 11: turds of force.

1777
01:31:59,773 --> 01:32:03,333
Speaker 3: And when is the best time to savor Charles Bridge.

1778
01:32:04,293 --> 01:32:07,933
Speaker 11: Well, it's a very good question because obviously Prague does

1779
01:32:08,093 --> 01:32:11,613
Speaker 11: not get more picture postcard than Charles Bridge. But it

1780
01:32:11,853 --> 01:32:15,613
Speaker 11: just gets engulfed. You know, it's just heaven with humanity.

1781
01:32:15,893 --> 01:32:18,893
Speaker 11: I sometimes look at Charles Bridge, think the fingers groaning

1782
01:32:18,973 --> 01:32:21,773
Speaker 11: under the weight of the world. So if you want

1783
01:32:21,773 --> 01:32:26,173
Speaker 11: to capture the bridge and it's unruffled, unpeopled glory with

1784
01:32:26,293 --> 01:32:30,173
Speaker 11: all those faintly sculptures, you've got to get there before

1785
01:32:30,293 --> 01:32:34,373
Speaker 11: seven a m. Set your unpopularly rocked down there, and

1786
01:32:34,413 --> 01:32:37,853
Speaker 11: you might just score the added bonus at daybreak of

1787
01:32:37,933 --> 01:32:43,133
Speaker 11: some of those ethereal fingers of morning River missed rising

1788
01:32:43,253 --> 01:32:45,173
Speaker 11: up to add to the fairy cart moss. I just

1789
01:32:45,573 --> 01:32:46,413
Speaker 11: love that bridge.

1790
01:32:46,493 --> 01:32:50,333
Speaker 3: Oh great, So what should you look for in Neurodova Street.

1791
01:32:51,573 --> 01:32:53,653
Speaker 11: Yeah, a lot of people will cross the bridge on

1792
01:32:53,653 --> 01:32:58,173
Speaker 11: their way to the behemoth of Prague Castle, and the

1793
01:32:58,373 --> 01:33:00,893
Speaker 11: street is one that you may be taking up to

1794
01:33:00,933 --> 01:33:03,053
Speaker 11: the castle. Of course, the castle is where a good

1795
01:33:03,133 --> 01:33:07,413
Speaker 11: King wintis list of Christmas Carol famous beer, but on

1796
01:33:07,493 --> 01:33:10,173
Speaker 11: the way up or down from the castle. Yeah, newrodov

1797
01:33:10,453 --> 01:33:14,773
Speaker 11: is a classic because prior to seventeen seventy, the houses

1798
01:33:14,813 --> 01:33:18,493
Speaker 11: in Prague did not have street numbers. They were distinguished

1799
01:33:18,533 --> 01:33:21,813
Speaker 11: by signs. And what I love about Neurodova is the

1800
01:33:21,893 --> 01:33:25,213
Speaker 11: houses there have preserved all of those old symbols and

1801
01:33:25,413 --> 01:33:30,213
Speaker 11: emblems and they generally indicated what was the profession of

1802
01:33:30,293 --> 01:33:33,333
Speaker 11: the occupants. Back in seventeen seventy it was very much

1803
01:33:33,573 --> 01:33:36,253
Speaker 11: the swinky part of town, obviously huddling below the castle

1804
01:33:36,293 --> 01:33:39,293
Speaker 11: to live. So yeah, there'll be goldsmiths and all sorts

1805
01:33:39,333 --> 01:33:43,053
Speaker 11: of fancy occupants. By the way, there's another really cool

1806
01:33:43,053 --> 01:33:46,573
Speaker 11: little streets in the castle district which I only discovered

1807
01:33:46,613 --> 01:33:49,853
Speaker 11: if the first time recently, called Golden Lane. So this

1808
01:33:50,013 --> 01:33:54,333
Speaker 11: is like a really slinky, cobblestoned alley and it's lined

1809
01:33:54,493 --> 01:33:57,893
Speaker 11: with these small, colorful houses that look like something out

1810
01:33:57,933 --> 01:34:00,293
Speaker 11: of a Brother's grim Tail. They were built in the

1811
01:34:00,493 --> 01:34:03,933
Speaker 11: fifteen hundreds of these wee houses. Super cute street to

1812
01:34:04,013 --> 01:34:04,453
Speaker 11: check out.

1813
01:34:04,573 --> 01:34:07,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, cool, that sounds really interesting. What about the

1814
01:34:07,173 --> 01:34:09,693
Speaker 3: John Lennon Wall? How did that come about in Prague.

1815
01:34:10,293 --> 01:34:13,133
Speaker 11: Yeah, to something completely different. I reckon this wall is

1816
01:34:13,173 --> 01:34:16,573
Speaker 11: so cold, because obviously Lenin's make Club not War slogan

1817
01:34:16,693 --> 01:34:20,333
Speaker 11: was a very powerful mobilizer back in the seventies, you know,

1818
01:34:20,373 --> 01:34:24,693
Speaker 11: amongst the Communist opposition, And after Lenin's death there was

1819
01:34:24,733 --> 01:34:29,053
Speaker 11: this Czech artist who created this graffiti war in honor

1820
01:34:29,133 --> 01:34:33,413
Speaker 11: of him, and then many locals would just spontaneously scrawl

1821
01:34:33,613 --> 01:34:37,093
Speaker 11: their own favorite quotes from Lenin's songs onto the wall,

1822
01:34:37,453 --> 01:34:41,053
Speaker 11: much to the ire of the authorities. But the war

1823
01:34:41,133 --> 01:34:44,893
Speaker 11: has endured, and it's not only not only played a

1824
01:34:44,893 --> 01:34:49,053
Speaker 11: pitotal role in the political uprising against the regime in

1825
01:34:49,093 --> 01:34:53,013
Speaker 11: the eighties, but then it's just continued to remain a

1826
01:34:53,173 --> 01:34:56,013
Speaker 11: very cherished freedom of speech monument today.

1827
01:34:56,653 --> 01:34:58,253
Speaker 3: I've only been lucky enough to have a couple of

1828
01:34:58,293 --> 01:35:00,293
Speaker 3: days in Prague. I mean, it's an amazing city, but

1829
01:35:00,413 --> 01:35:05,573
Speaker 3: I remember it has museums for all interests, right, Oh.

1830
01:35:05,413 --> 01:35:08,693
Speaker 11: My goodness, no matter how quirky or niche, Prague seems

1831
01:35:08,733 --> 01:35:13,133
Speaker 11: to have a museum to scratch every etch, from steampunk

1832
01:35:13,213 --> 01:35:17,653
Speaker 11: to alchemy and then jack there is the Sex Machines Museum,

1833
01:35:18,333 --> 01:35:21,333
Speaker 11: the only such museum in the world, apparently but being

1834
01:35:21,333 --> 01:35:25,413
Speaker 11: an ad and beads old boy curious George was aroused.

1835
01:35:25,533 --> 01:35:30,293
Speaker 11: So this museum is chock full of devices and contraptions

1836
01:35:30,333 --> 01:35:36,173
Speaker 11: from over the ages. We're talking centuries for mechanically enhanced pleasure,

1837
01:35:36,493 --> 01:35:38,853
Speaker 11: and I have to know the museum was very thoughtful,

1838
01:35:39,493 --> 01:35:42,293
Speaker 11: very kind enough to wet a flexible dummy around each

1839
01:35:42,333 --> 01:35:44,693
Speaker 11: gadget to further demonstrate its intended duke.

1840
01:35:46,773 --> 01:35:48,853
Speaker 3: Well, your sense of imagination wasn't enough.

1841
01:35:48,893 --> 01:35:52,053
Speaker 11: Apparently I got a full education.

1842
01:35:52,293 --> 01:35:56,653
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, brag is a famous sweet tooth. Right, what

1843
01:35:56,733 --> 01:35:58,053
Speaker 3: are the signature treats?

1844
01:35:58,933 --> 01:36:00,293
Speaker 11: That's our sort of town jack.

1845
01:36:00,453 --> 01:36:00,653
Speaker 15: Yes.

1846
01:36:00,733 --> 01:36:03,653
Speaker 11: After a lot of taste testing in Prague's best partisseries,

1847
01:36:03,733 --> 01:36:07,773
Speaker 11: these have been my top three tips. Rest of Medovnik.

1848
01:36:07,973 --> 01:36:11,213
Speaker 11: It's a check honey cake with thin layers of honey

1849
01:36:11,213 --> 01:36:14,333
Speaker 11: and fused dough which are separated by either creamy caramel

1850
01:36:14,733 --> 01:36:18,933
Speaker 11: or condensed milk filling. Really good. I'd give it the

1851
01:36:18,973 --> 01:36:22,453
Speaker 11: contensed milk. Actually. Then there's the tree Nek, which is

1852
01:36:22,493 --> 01:36:25,893
Speaker 11: a super sized cream puff overloaded with custard cream and

1853
01:36:25,933 --> 01:36:28,453
Speaker 11: tops with the glossy caramel glaze. And then you need

1854
01:36:28,493 --> 01:36:32,493
Speaker 11: to follow that with a slice of Bobblina. I love

1855
01:36:32,533 --> 01:36:35,893
Speaker 11: that name that it's kind of like a trifle ish

1856
01:36:36,173 --> 01:36:40,333
Speaker 11: sponge cake crammed with cherries. I'm sure there's some serious

1857
01:36:40,653 --> 01:36:42,853
Speaker 11: alcohol in there as well, but veria resistant.

1858
01:36:42,933 --> 01:36:45,173
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that sounds great. What about chimney cake.

1859
01:36:46,213 --> 01:36:51,133
Speaker 11: Oh my goodness, drag has elevated the tadoumic or chimney

1860
01:36:51,133 --> 01:36:53,973
Speaker 11: cake onto the highest better storm. So I was just

1861
01:36:54,293 --> 01:36:57,613
Speaker 11: so intrigued watching these being cocked in shops. So it's

1862
01:36:57,653 --> 01:37:02,533
Speaker 11: like on a spit, these cylinder shaped wraps of dough,

1863
01:37:02,693 --> 01:37:05,333
Speaker 11: and then they're cocked on a spurt until the exterior

1864
01:37:05,413 --> 01:37:08,933
Speaker 11: is crispy Bennett stoust and sugar and cinnamon and nuts,

1865
01:37:09,253 --> 01:37:13,733
Speaker 11: and the cylindrical pastry also serves as a very handy cone.

1866
01:37:14,093 --> 01:37:15,773
Speaker 11: So of course you can mian top it with a

1867
01:37:16,133 --> 01:37:19,773
Speaker 11: skipper two of ice creend coated with more nuts. Unbelievably

1868
01:37:19,853 --> 01:37:22,493
Speaker 11: good to don it is with the triple loan to

1869
01:37:22,533 --> 01:37:23,093
Speaker 11: prage Jack.

1870
01:37:23,333 --> 01:37:26,213
Speaker 3: That's so good. Ah, you got my stomach rumbling. Hey,

1871
01:37:26,253 --> 01:37:29,053
Speaker 3: thank you, and travel safely. We're looking forward to hearing

1872
01:37:29,053 --> 01:37:32,413
Speaker 3: about your trip, but obviously prioritize your well being ahead

1873
01:37:32,413 --> 01:37:34,133
Speaker 3: of everything. As much as we're going to want to

1874
01:37:34,173 --> 01:37:37,573
Speaker 3: hear about it, you know, make sure that safety comes first.

1875
01:37:37,573 --> 01:37:40,093
Speaker 3: I know you will. Thank you, Mike. All of Mike's

1876
01:37:40,093 --> 01:37:42,933
Speaker 3: tips will be up for enjoying the pleasures of Prague,

1877
01:37:43,093 --> 01:37:46,253
Speaker 3: the multiple the myriad pleasures of Prague will be up

1878
01:37:46,253 --> 01:37:48,253
Speaker 3: on the news talks. He'd be website of course, everything

1879
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Speaker 3: from our show goes up there news talks. He'db dot

1880
01:37:50,493 --> 01:37:54,813
Speaker 3: co dot nz Forward slash Jack now before midday, as

1881
01:37:54,813 --> 01:37:56,933
Speaker 3: well as that new music from Ed Sheeran. We've got

1882
01:37:56,973 --> 01:38:00,653
Speaker 3: our book recommendations for the weekend, including a new book

1883
01:38:00,653 --> 01:38:04,613
Speaker 3: from Gilbert Inoka. He is that amazing guy who had

1884
01:38:04,653 --> 01:38:06,773
Speaker 3: a really interesting career, but he was brought and to

1885
01:38:06,813 --> 01:38:09,773
Speaker 3: help the All Blacks is their mental skills coach, and

1886
01:38:09,853 --> 01:38:12,373
Speaker 3: it proved to give the team a real itch. He

1887
01:38:12,413 --> 01:38:14,333
Speaker 3: went on to help teams all around the world in

1888
01:38:14,333 --> 01:38:16,373
Speaker 3: all sorts of different sports. So anyways, just published a

1889
01:38:16,373 --> 01:38:18,133
Speaker 3: book that we're going to tell you about very shortly,

1890
01:38:18,333 --> 01:38:19,773
Speaker 3: just coming up to eleven thirty.

1891
01:38:19,813 --> 01:38:24,973
Speaker 2: S getting your weekends started.

1892
01:38:25,173 --> 01:38:32,853
Speaker 8: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on news talks, Bower.

1893
01:38:30,973 --> 01:38:32,733
Speaker 5: Fun of the World with some.

1894
01:38:36,493 --> 01:38:44,613
Speaker 20: Hundred times began the.

1895
01:38:49,813 --> 01:38:58,573
Speaker 5: Can time the news.

1896
01:38:59,773 --> 01:39:01,813
Speaker 3: You're a Jack tame. Thank you for your feedback and

1897
01:39:01,893 --> 01:39:05,573
Speaker 3: we've had so many texts and emails this morning, all

1898
01:39:05,613 --> 01:39:09,253
Speaker 3: them coming through the doo at my place are absolutely

1899
01:39:09,333 --> 01:39:13,133
Speaker 3: smashing through the magnolia buds at the moment, absolutely smashing

1900
01:39:13,173 --> 01:39:16,653
Speaker 3: through them, big fat birds gobbling away. Yeah, the magnolias

1901
01:39:16,653 --> 01:39:19,653
Speaker 3: are absolutely crushing it at my house this morning. So

1902
01:39:19,693 --> 01:39:23,653
Speaker 3: you're not the only ones there. It is amazing, just

1903
01:39:23,693 --> 01:39:26,453
Speaker 3: how like it kind of lifts your you know, it

1904
01:39:26,533 --> 01:39:32,813
Speaker 3: lifts your mood immediately when you see flowers blooming. So

1905
01:39:33,093 --> 01:39:35,613
Speaker 3: before the day, we're gonna play that new music from

1906
01:39:35,733 --> 01:39:37,373
Speaker 3: Edge here and we're going to catch up though with

1907
01:39:37,453 --> 01:39:40,053
Speaker 3: our book reviewer Catherine Rains for her book picks of

1908
01:39:40,093 --> 01:39:42,533
Speaker 3: this weekend now though, so she's got a couple of

1909
01:39:42,533 --> 01:39:45,693
Speaker 3: different reads. We'll track her down and see if she's here, right,

1910
01:39:45,773 --> 01:39:49,333
Speaker 3: Catherine Childer, Good morning, Good morning Jack. Your first pick

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01:39:49,373 --> 01:39:52,413
Speaker 3: for us this weekend is The Vanishing Place by Zoe Rankin.

1912
01:39:53,413 --> 01:39:56,013
Speaker 13: So this takes place in the New Zealand bush and

1913
01:39:56,093 --> 01:40:00,693
Speaker 13: this very brutal accident happens and the swiman is having

1914
01:40:00,733 --> 01:40:03,213
Speaker 13: to confront the place she'd sworn it should never go

1915
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Speaker 13: back to. And as a child who and her siblings

1916
01:40:05,893 --> 01:40:07,693
Speaker 13: have believed that their parents had had an um in

1917
01:40:07,973 --> 01:40:11,813
Speaker 13: the bush for very altruistic reasons, only realizing in hindsight

1918
01:40:11,933 --> 01:40:14,093
Speaker 13: later in life that the truth was really a much

1919
01:40:14,173 --> 01:40:16,973
Speaker 13: darker reality for them all. And in twenty years later,

1920
01:40:17,053 --> 01:40:18,813
Speaker 13: ef He is living in Scotland and the Isle of

1921
01:40:18,853 --> 01:40:21,813
Speaker 13: Sky when she learns that an almost incident that she

1922
01:40:21,933 --> 01:40:24,973
Speaker 13: learns when she was young, when this bloodstained young girl

1923
01:40:25,173 --> 01:40:27,693
Speaker 13: stumbles out of the bush into this remote town of Cohora,

1924
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Speaker 13: and she doesn't speak, but her physical appearance mirror is

1925
01:40:31,173 --> 01:40:33,533
Speaker 13: that of Fie, with her red hair and her green eyes,

1926
01:40:33,933 --> 01:40:37,493
Speaker 13: and her story is almost the same. And so consequently

1927
01:40:37,533 --> 01:40:39,453
Speaker 13: if he is drawn back into the school that she

1928
01:40:39,493 --> 01:40:42,693
Speaker 13: wanted to forget, and the chap resultsnate between Ephie's past

1929
01:40:42,733 --> 01:40:44,453
Speaker 13: and the current point of view, and it just adds

1930
01:40:44,493 --> 01:40:47,053
Speaker 13: to the secret see and mysteries of the past, and

1931
01:40:47,173 --> 01:40:50,293
Speaker 13: lots of questions are left unanswered to almost the very end.

1932
01:40:50,853 --> 01:40:53,093
Speaker 13: And the author, Zoey Rankin, takes you on this journey

1933
01:40:53,173 --> 01:40:55,893
Speaker 13: of a dark family history and a really intense story

1934
01:40:55,933 --> 01:40:58,453
Speaker 13: that keeps you completely captivated and hooked.

1935
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Speaker 3: Fantastic. So is zoe a key We author.

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01:41:01,973 --> 01:41:04,453
Speaker 13: I present she is a Keywi author and this is

1937
01:41:04,493 --> 01:41:07,693
Speaker 13: her debut novel, and I can't to read what she

1938
01:41:07,813 --> 01:41:08,413
Speaker 13: writes next.

1939
01:41:08,613 --> 01:41:10,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, so per that sounds great. Okay, so that's

1940
01:41:10,733 --> 01:41:14,213
Speaker 3: the Vanishing Place by Zoe Rankin. You've also read another

1941
01:41:14,213 --> 01:41:17,333
Speaker 3: book by another key We author, This has Become Unstoppable

1942
01:41:17,333 --> 01:41:18,293
Speaker 3: by Gilbert Sinoca.

1943
01:41:19,253 --> 01:41:21,333
Speaker 13: So Gilbert I know it is very well known for

1944
01:41:21,413 --> 01:41:25,213
Speaker 13: his success as an All Black's mental skills and leadership coach,

1945
01:41:25,293 --> 01:41:28,373
Speaker 13: and his skills have been sought after by the English

1946
01:41:28,373 --> 01:41:31,253
Speaker 13: cricket team, New South Wales state of origin and Premier

1947
01:41:31,333 --> 01:41:36,093
Speaker 13: League club Chelsea, and the Crusaders and Black Pats, Crucies

1948
01:41:36,093 --> 01:41:40,493
Speaker 13: and all sorts of people. And he shares the philosophies

1949
01:41:40,573 --> 01:41:44,853
Speaker 13: that he's used for supporting success, and All Blacks coach

1950
01:41:44,933 --> 01:41:48,893
Speaker 13: Steve Hansen credits him as the really secret ingredient that

1951
01:41:48,973 --> 01:41:52,093
Speaker 13: helped them deliver to Rugby World Cup titles and trainations

1952
01:41:52,133 --> 01:41:56,053
Speaker 13: and major sporting victories. But what Gilbertah knows of all

1953
01:41:56,093 --> 01:41:59,293
Speaker 13: about is this connection and this belonging and a lot

1954
01:41:59,293 --> 01:42:01,973
Speaker 13: of these qualities shaped him from his very early years

1955
01:42:02,013 --> 01:42:05,013
Speaker 13: in a Martin's Children home and that experience, and that

1956
01:42:05,133 --> 01:42:08,893
Speaker 13: experience really shaped what his future mental skills and leadership

1957
01:42:08,933 --> 01:42:11,813
Speaker 13: approach would look like. And at twelve he ends up

1958
01:42:11,853 --> 01:42:14,213
Speaker 13: back in Punston. All was his mum and life with

1959
01:42:14,253 --> 01:42:17,693
Speaker 13: an alcoholic stepfather and challenging, and that's where he finds

1960
01:42:17,733 --> 01:42:20,893
Speaker 13: vollerballers the kind of outlet and passion and it's really

1961
01:42:20,933 --> 01:42:25,013
Speaker 13: in volleyball and that representative where he kind of they

1962
01:42:25,053 --> 01:42:28,733
Speaker 13: adopted these concepts like leadership and journaling and feedback sessions

1963
01:42:28,773 --> 01:42:32,893
Speaker 13: and ownership, things that didn't really exist in the late

1964
01:42:32,933 --> 01:42:37,213
Speaker 13: seventies and early eighties. And I also taught at Hill

1965
01:42:37,253 --> 01:42:39,613
Speaker 13: whist And High School. And that's actually where he meets

1966
01:42:39,693 --> 01:42:42,653
Speaker 13: Wayne Smith, who was in All Blacks at the time,

1967
01:42:42,773 --> 01:42:45,373
Speaker 13: and they start looking at this fresh and different mindsets

1968
01:42:45,813 --> 01:42:49,933
Speaker 13: and Smith, once he's started coaching, and Anoka for those

1969
01:42:50,013 --> 01:42:52,453
Speaker 13: kind of things, and you know, an Oka for his part,

1970
01:42:52,573 --> 01:42:55,813
Speaker 13: is very proud and changing that all Blacks culture, you know,

1971
01:42:55,893 --> 01:42:58,933
Speaker 13: and really instrumental and changing that. But the book has

1972
01:42:58,973 --> 01:43:02,533
Speaker 13: all these really practical suggestions as well for all of

1973
01:43:02,613 --> 01:43:06,093
Speaker 13: us about the techniques they used with the All Blacks

1974
01:43:06,093 --> 01:43:09,293
Speaker 13: and whites, and speaks about his lessons and that real

1975
01:43:09,453 --> 01:43:12,693
Speaker 13: edge that comes from connection and values and being valued

1976
01:43:13,053 --> 01:43:15,773
Speaker 13: and that teen culture, and that's where the really interesting

1977
01:43:15,853 --> 01:43:17,933
Speaker 13: lessons come for all of us in our every day lards.

1978
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Speaker 3: No, I can't wait to read that. He's just an

1979
01:43:20,093 --> 01:43:23,053
Speaker 3: absolute legend day so that sounds superb. Bit of me.

1980
01:43:23,373 --> 01:43:27,333
Speaker 3: That's Become Unstoppable by Gilbert Inoka, and Catherine's first book

1981
01:43:27,413 --> 01:43:30,133
Speaker 3: the novel is The Vanishing Place by Zoe Rank, and

1982
01:43:30,173 --> 01:43:31,853
Speaker 3: details of both of those books are going to be

1983
01:43:31,933 --> 01:43:33,293
Speaker 3: up on the News Talks there'd be website. Have a

1984
01:43:33,333 --> 01:43:34,173
Speaker 3: good week, Catherine.

1985
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Speaker 1: Thanks j Saturday Morning with Jack Team fulk Show podcast

1986
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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks it B tw.

1987
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Speaker 3: Twelve on News Talks he b Jason Pine is standing

1988
01:43:45,453 --> 01:43:48,733
Speaker 3: by for a very very big afternoon on weekends. Sport

1989
01:43:48,893 --> 01:43:52,493
Speaker 3: is the atmosphere building Pioney. It is in another pub jacket.

1990
01:43:52,533 --> 01:43:56,613
Speaker 22: Won't surprise it, won't surprise it continues, it does and

1991
01:43:56,653 --> 01:44:00,573
Speaker 22: it's landed today Shed twenty two on Wellington's waterfront, which

1992
01:44:00,653 --> 01:44:03,013
Speaker 22: already I can tell you are started to fill up

1993
01:44:03,013 --> 01:44:06,493
Speaker 22: with I have to say, mainly South African fans and

1994
01:44:06,533 --> 01:44:09,213
Speaker 22: this was someone's last week actually at the Kingslander. You

1995
01:44:09,253 --> 01:44:10,973
Speaker 22: know that the South African fans I think are out

1996
01:44:11,053 --> 01:44:13,813
Speaker 22: nice and early. The all Blacks fans are taking their time,

1997
01:44:14,133 --> 01:44:15,693
Speaker 22: but I'm sure they will arrive a bit later on,

1998
01:44:15,733 --> 01:44:18,133
Speaker 22: but yeah, looking forward to soaking up the atmosphere of

1999
01:44:18,253 --> 01:44:22,133
Speaker 22: Test match Saturday in the Capitol, big weekend, last weekend

2000
01:44:22,133 --> 01:44:24,373
Speaker 22: obviously up in Auckland. I just wonder, I'm not sure

2001
01:44:24,373 --> 01:44:27,093
Speaker 22: what you think about this, whether there's a lot less

2002
01:44:27,133 --> 01:44:29,693
Speaker 22: pressure on Scott robertson now. I think if they'd lost

2003
01:44:29,773 --> 01:44:33,893
Speaker 22: last week, I think tonight would be not necessarily career defining,

2004
01:44:33,933 --> 01:44:36,413
Speaker 22: but it would have been a much bigger deal for

2005
01:44:36,453 --> 01:44:38,093
Speaker 22: the All Blacks, I think than if they you know,

2006
01:44:38,453 --> 01:44:40,253
Speaker 22: than from having won last week.

2007
01:44:40,253 --> 01:44:43,373
Speaker 3: If again, certainly yeah, yeah, I mean I think with

2008
01:44:43,493 --> 01:44:47,613
Speaker 3: the recording park and Artie's one hundredth Test, yes, that

2009
01:44:47,773 --> 01:44:52,093
Speaker 3: result was absolutely essential from Scott Robinson's perspective. Now, things

2010
01:44:52,133 --> 01:44:54,013
Speaker 3: that it's very hard to pick how things are going

2011
01:44:54,053 --> 01:44:55,933
Speaker 3: to change tonight. At the end of the game last week,

2012
01:44:55,973 --> 01:44:58,133
Speaker 3: I was like, this is such a physical game. I

2013
01:44:58,173 --> 01:45:01,013
Speaker 3: will be stunned if half of these players are here

2014
01:45:01,053 --> 01:45:03,173
Speaker 3: at this time next week. And some big changes like

2015
01:45:03,213 --> 01:45:06,853
Speaker 3: that South African back line, I mean, this is losing.

2016
01:45:06,893 --> 01:45:09,253
Speaker 3: It's a bit of people like that, some big calls

2017
01:45:09,253 --> 01:45:10,093
Speaker 3: from Razzie.

2018
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Speaker 22: Absolutely right. But the thing that's interesting is he stuck

2019
01:45:12,853 --> 01:45:14,813
Speaker 22: with the five to three on the bench because the

2020
01:45:14,853 --> 01:45:16,733
Speaker 22: six to two and even on occasion the seven to

2021
01:45:16,813 --> 01:45:19,173
Speaker 22: one has worked really well for him. Last year in

2022
01:45:19,253 --> 01:45:22,093
Speaker 22: South Africa, both test matches at joe Berg and Cape Town,

2023
01:45:22,293 --> 01:45:24,333
Speaker 22: he went with the six to two split and those

2024
01:45:24,373 --> 01:45:26,053
Speaker 22: forwards came on and kind of ran over the top

2025
01:45:26,093 --> 01:45:28,653
Speaker 22: of the All Blacks on both occasions. I'm interested that

2026
01:45:28,693 --> 01:45:32,333
Speaker 22: he hasn't done that this time, you know. I just

2027
01:45:32,373 --> 01:45:35,253
Speaker 22: hope it's the weather's okay here Jack. By the way,

2028
01:45:35,293 --> 01:45:37,173
Speaker 22: it's a bit breezy, but other than that it's okay.

2029
01:45:37,653 --> 01:45:39,573
Speaker 22: I just would like to see a bit more expensive

2030
01:45:39,613 --> 01:45:41,533
Speaker 22: rugby tonight, but I just don't think we are going

2031
01:45:41,533 --> 01:45:44,373
Speaker 22: to see that. I think these two are so closely

2032
01:45:44,413 --> 01:45:48,013
Speaker 22: matched and so physically adept that they're just going to

2033
01:45:48,093 --> 01:45:49,493
Speaker 22: bash each other and it's.

2034
01:45:49,333 --> 01:45:49,893
Speaker 3: Going to be tight.

2035
01:45:49,933 --> 01:45:51,413
Speaker 22: And I get the feeling it'll be a.

2036
01:45:51,413 --> 01:45:55,093
Speaker 3: One score game. Again. Yeah, I tend to agree. I

2037
01:45:55,093 --> 01:45:57,053
Speaker 3: think it'll be very tight, to say the least. How

2038
01:45:57,053 --> 01:46:01,173
Speaker 3: do you feel about the Warriors. I feel good about

2039
01:46:01,173 --> 01:46:05,133
Speaker 3: the Warriors, yes, I do. I really think they can

2040
01:46:05,173 --> 01:46:08,893
Speaker 3: win the game, and it's probably self evident because it's

2041
01:46:08,893 --> 01:46:10,893
Speaker 3: a knockout match and there are two teams and one

2042
01:46:10,933 --> 01:46:13,173
Speaker 3: team will win in one, won't. I feel like the

2043
01:46:13,173 --> 01:46:14,733
Speaker 3: Warriors on their day and you and I have spoken

2044
01:46:14,773 --> 01:46:16,973
Speaker 3: about this, jack on their day, they can beat anybody

2045
01:46:17,133 --> 01:46:20,413
Speaker 3: which is that day today, is that day today, and

2046
01:46:20,733 --> 01:46:23,053
Speaker 3: look it. It'll feed them into the next round of

2047
01:46:23,053 --> 01:46:24,493
Speaker 3: the finals if they do. And it's a long way

2048
01:46:24,533 --> 01:46:26,173
Speaker 3: to get to the Grand Final from where they are.

2049
01:46:26,213 --> 01:46:27,973
Speaker 22: But all they can do is play what's in front

2050
01:46:27,973 --> 01:46:31,213
Speaker 22: of them. Penrith are not the the you know, all

2051
01:46:31,893 --> 01:46:34,173
Speaker 22: powerful force they have been the last four years. Still

2052
01:46:34,173 --> 01:46:35,653
Speaker 22: a very good team obviously, and they know how to

2053
01:46:35,653 --> 01:46:37,213
Speaker 22: get the job done at finals time. But I just

2054
01:46:37,213 --> 01:46:40,533
Speaker 22: get the feeling home crowds, a couple of key players

2055
01:46:40,533 --> 01:46:44,013
Speaker 22: coming back in Wade Egan and Jackson Ford, the fact

2056
01:46:44,013 --> 01:46:46,773
Speaker 22: that it's a knockout game. I just think tonight may

2057
01:46:46,813 --> 01:46:49,973
Speaker 22: well be that night where the Warriors do front up

2058
01:46:50,333 --> 01:46:52,973
Speaker 22: and beat the Panthers and march on and earn themselves

2059
01:46:52,973 --> 01:46:53,493
Speaker 22: another week.

2060
01:46:53,613 --> 01:46:56,053
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I really hope that's the case. Black Ferns Tonight,

2061
01:46:56,053 --> 01:46:57,333
Speaker 3: of course, midnight.

2062
01:46:57,213 --> 01:46:59,453
Speaker 22: Can't wait, can't wait? Yeah, just I mean, what a

2063
01:46:59,573 --> 01:47:01,933
Speaker 22: what a what a night of sport ahead? We've got

2064
01:47:01,933 --> 01:47:04,013
Speaker 22: the Warriors and the and the All Blacks. Of course,

2065
01:47:04,053 --> 01:47:05,213
Speaker 22: and then you know, we can watch a bit of

2066
01:47:05,253 --> 01:47:08,933
Speaker 22: the World Track and Field Champs Chris Wood and Nottingham

2067
01:47:08,973 --> 01:47:12,333
Speaker 22: Forest up against Arsenal from eleven thirty tonight and then

2068
01:47:12,373 --> 01:47:15,573
Speaker 22: the Black Fern's at at midnight. So yeah, look, I

2069
01:47:16,173 --> 01:47:19,733
Speaker 22: think sleep is overrated at times like this, jack rated.

2070
01:47:19,773 --> 01:47:21,253
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so yeah, we're ready.

2071
01:47:21,453 --> 01:47:24,053
Speaker 22: We're ready to push on from midday and push on

2072
01:47:24,133 --> 01:47:25,613
Speaker 22: through to about two o'clock tomorrow morning.

2073
01:47:25,733 --> 01:47:29,013
Speaker 3: Very good. You enjoy this afternoon and this evening. Jason

2074
01:47:29,053 --> 01:47:31,413
Speaker 3: Pie will have Weekend Sport right after the midday news

2075
01:47:31,413 --> 01:47:33,893
Speaker 3: and he'll be part of the team calling the All

2076
01:47:33,893 --> 01:47:36,693
Speaker 3: Blacks from the sideline. Later, Elliott Smith and Ross Bond

2077
01:47:36,893 --> 01:47:39,533
Speaker 3: will be with them on Newstalk's EDB from seven o'clock

2078
01:47:39,533 --> 01:47:41,493
Speaker 3: this evening. So I reckon, if you've got the Warriors

2079
01:47:41,533 --> 01:47:43,293
Speaker 3: on the box, wait and see how they're going. Then

2080
01:47:43,613 --> 01:47:46,373
Speaker 3: transfer across to the news Talk's EDB commentary team for

2081
01:47:46,413 --> 01:47:48,373
Speaker 3: the big game this evening, and once the Warriors are done,

2082
01:47:48,413 --> 01:47:50,253
Speaker 3: then maybe you can watch that as well. Thank you

2083
01:47:50,253 --> 01:47:52,893
Speaker 3: pining right now sixteen to twelve, that new album from

2084
01:47:52,893 --> 01:47:54,893
Speaker 3: each year and next on Newstalk's EDB.

2085
01:47:56,453 --> 01:47:59,333
Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on the all you need

2086
01:47:59,373 --> 01:48:07,493
Speaker 1: to know this Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks IV, Yes, Sir, no.

2087
01:48:08,773 --> 01:48:10,613
Speaker 5: Hat, just a little.

2088
01:48:13,013 --> 01:48:15,613
Speaker 6: I've done better, man, I ask you.

2089
01:48:22,053 --> 01:48:29,653
Speaker 5: Babe. His streaks, I can't call you, grease your body.

2090
01:48:30,893 --> 01:48:36,093
Speaker 5: I used to live Just a little more.

2091
01:48:36,293 --> 01:48:40,133
Speaker 3: That is Ed Shearon the songs called a little More.

2092
01:48:40,213 --> 01:48:44,093
Speaker 3: His brand new album is play that Clifford's been listening

2093
01:48:44,573 --> 01:48:47,293
Speaker 3: Good morning, Oh Koder And.

2094
01:48:47,453 --> 01:48:50,093
Speaker 23: Isn't it just a little kind of exciting that Ed

2095
01:48:50,133 --> 01:48:51,613
Speaker 23: Shearon is throwing shade?

2096
01:48:52,173 --> 01:48:52,853
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2097
01:48:53,053 --> 01:48:55,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not really his style, is it. He's usually

2098
01:48:55,293 --> 01:48:56,493
Speaker 3: the Yeah.

2099
01:48:56,733 --> 01:48:59,293
Speaker 23: We don't hear him say I hate you. Yeah, I

2100
01:49:00,053 --> 01:49:01,533
Speaker 23: just so for me, it's a little bit of a

2101
01:49:01,573 --> 01:49:04,533
Speaker 23: standout track because you don't kind of expect those lyrics

2102
01:49:04,573 --> 01:49:07,973
Speaker 23: from him. You don't and him to completely throw some

2103
01:49:08,093 --> 01:49:10,573
Speaker 23: shade and say things like I wish you could look

2104
01:49:10,573 --> 01:49:12,333
Speaker 23: in the mirror, because if you did, you'd see the

2105
01:49:12,333 --> 01:49:16,573
Speaker 23: problem as you Yeah, but then as you can hear

2106
01:49:16,613 --> 01:49:21,733
Speaker 23: through this one, just that super catchy upbeat gem. It's

2107
01:49:21,773 --> 01:49:25,053
Speaker 23: got some cool high hat things. There's a full brass section,

2108
01:49:25,773 --> 01:49:28,853
Speaker 23: pretty little blings, and then really great harmonies in the background,

2109
01:49:28,893 --> 01:49:32,533
Speaker 23: and it kind of makes me think of like Amy Winehouse.

2110
01:49:32,573 --> 01:49:34,853
Speaker 23: You know how she was really good at bringing that soulful,

2111
01:49:35,453 --> 01:49:37,813
Speaker 23: cool kind of track, but actually it was pretty dark

2112
01:49:37,853 --> 01:49:41,773
Speaker 23: and sound sort of shady, so that that's kind of

2113
01:49:41,773 --> 01:49:43,493
Speaker 23: a yeah for me. That is a standout on this

2114
01:49:43,573 --> 01:49:46,613
Speaker 23: play album. Don't worry, though, there's plenty of tracks on

2115
01:49:46,693 --> 01:49:51,453
Speaker 23: here for people to still get married to. I mean,

2116
01:49:51,493 --> 01:49:54,213
Speaker 23: if Ed Sharon didn't give us some new first dance tracks,

2117
01:49:54,293 --> 01:49:58,813
Speaker 23: there would be something wrong. There's literally a song called

2118
01:49:58,853 --> 01:50:02,933
Speaker 23: the vell Oh wow, okay, yeah, I mean he's just

2119
01:50:03,013 --> 01:50:05,533
Speaker 23: making it real obvious that it's okay.

2120
01:50:05,253 --> 01:50:08,613
Speaker 3: You can still Yeah, yeah, it does. It works for Ed,

2121
01:50:08,733 --> 01:50:11,573
Speaker 3: you know, it works for only three billion couples around

2122
01:50:11,573 --> 01:50:12,373
Speaker 3: the world. That's fine.

2123
01:50:12,493 --> 01:50:14,813
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally a What I also love about

2124
01:50:14,973 --> 01:50:16,733
Speaker 23: Ed like, never mind a five year plan in your

2125
01:50:16,733 --> 01:50:18,573
Speaker 23: life of what you're gonna do, because he's already got

2126
01:50:18,573 --> 01:50:21,173
Speaker 23: all the album names in this series lined up. But

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Speaker 23: he's also got like a sixty year hopefully sixty year

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Speaker 23: plan depending on when it is he pops his clogs.

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Speaker 23: But he's got an album that he wants to release

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Speaker 23: once he passes away, and it's in his will and

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Speaker 23: it's called Eject, So.

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Speaker 3: Hang on, He's recorded an album.

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Speaker 23: Yes, well, actually there's a whole lot of songs that

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Speaker 23: if his wife outlives him, she can approve the tracks

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Speaker 23: that go on the album called Eject, which makes me

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Speaker 23: think we're catapulting his ashes into the stratosphere. I don't know,

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Speaker 23: but I just I feel like he seen it in

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Speaker 23: an interview as a joke, but that's kind of become

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Speaker 23: where he's like, no, no, true, I do have a

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Speaker 23: posthumous album. But whenever it happens, ah.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, it is interesting. I mean what because yeah, maybe

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe if he's you know, throwing a little

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01:51:05,733 --> 01:51:07,613
Speaker 3: bit of shade in, maybe that's going to be like

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Speaker 3: each here and does death metal or each Hear and

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01:51:10,213 --> 01:51:16,013
Speaker 3: does like, you know, really aggressively.

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Speaker 23: Where everyone's like, way, I thought this.

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Speaker 3: Guy was a nice guy. We got married to this

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01:51:19,773 --> 01:51:22,013
Speaker 3: yeah exactly, Yeah, what has happened?

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Speaker 23: I just think that's I think that's kind of it's

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01:51:24,293 --> 01:51:26,453
Speaker 23: kind of quirky and funny, and may we be around

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01:51:26,493 --> 01:51:28,093
Speaker 23: long enough to find out if it's actually going to

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01:51:28,133 --> 01:51:32,333
Speaker 23: be well yeah, yeah, he's done another great co lab

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01:51:32,373 --> 01:51:34,093
Speaker 23: as well with Fred again, so he's done a couple

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01:51:34,213 --> 01:51:37,213
Speaker 23: with him before the songs called Don't Look Down It's

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01:51:37,253 --> 01:51:39,693
Speaker 23: got some really interesting vocal work from it on it

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01:51:39,733 --> 01:51:41,533
Speaker 23: that I quite like. He sort of pushes some real

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01:51:41,573 --> 01:51:44,173
Speaker 23: boundaries with what he's doing. You'll have already heard that

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01:51:44,213 --> 01:51:47,493
Speaker 23: he's doing, you know, some influence from Persian culture and

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01:51:47,533 --> 01:51:50,453
Speaker 23: then Indian culture with some of the musical kind of

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01:51:50,453 --> 01:51:53,293
Speaker 23: tracks and vocals that have been used, but in true

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01:51:53,293 --> 01:51:56,333
Speaker 23: Fred Again style. On that song, there's like, you know,

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01:51:56,373 --> 01:51:59,853
Speaker 23: burg loud synths and pounding kind of house beat to

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01:51:59,893 --> 01:52:02,013
Speaker 23: make it head more of that dance floor kind of track.

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01:52:02,293 --> 01:52:05,573
Speaker 23: It's an interesting album and that it does go through

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01:52:05,653 --> 01:52:08,213
Speaker 23: some real real way and for me it's kind of

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01:52:08,573 --> 01:52:10,493
Speaker 23: I don't like. I don't like the flow of some

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01:52:10,573 --> 01:52:12,373
Speaker 23: of it, right, but you kind of go from like

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01:52:12,413 --> 01:52:15,573
Speaker 23: this love track to then the dis and then house.

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Speaker 23: So I don't know. Maybe it's kind of good because

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01:52:18,453 --> 01:52:20,333
Speaker 23: you have their standout singles and you don't have to

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01:52:20,333 --> 01:52:21,213
Speaker 23: listen to the whole album.

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01:52:22,133 --> 01:52:23,493
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, there's lots of.

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01:52:23,453 --> 01:52:25,533
Speaker 23: People want to do their day. He's also spoken out

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Speaker 23: about how because they're moving to the States because he's

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01:52:28,173 --> 01:52:30,973
Speaker 23: doing an extensive tour over there, so wants to take

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01:52:30,973 --> 01:52:33,333
Speaker 23: the far no, which I fully respect because it is

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01:52:33,333 --> 01:52:35,653
Speaker 23: not easy to be on the road minus your people,

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01:52:36,213 --> 01:52:38,813
Speaker 23: so they're moving into the States. And then he has

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01:52:38,853 --> 01:52:41,773
Speaker 23: talked about his love affair with Nashville and possibly touching

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01:52:41,813 --> 01:52:44,653
Speaker 23: on some country music. Okay, yeah, I'm just going to

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01:52:44,733 --> 01:52:47,733
Speaker 23: say out right, no, no, thank you. I don't want

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01:52:47,733 --> 01:52:49,013
Speaker 23: you sharing to do a country.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's a I feel like you're doing

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01:52:50,693 --> 01:52:53,173
Speaker 3: a country album, and I feel like it's a better

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01:52:53,653 --> 01:52:59,853
Speaker 3: I mean, if Beyonce is doing country.

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Speaker 23: Well okay, but here's the thing. He says, once you've

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01:52:59,693 --> 01:53:01,693
Speaker 23: done country, you can't go back. And I'm like, has

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01:53:01,693 --> 01:53:03,773
Speaker 23: anyone discussed it with Beyonce because I don't know if

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01:53:03,813 --> 01:53:06,693
Speaker 23: it rings true for her, maybe it would ring for

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01:53:06,733 --> 01:53:09,973
Speaker 23: someone like Ed Sharon. I'm like, I don't need everyone

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01:53:09,973 --> 01:53:12,293
Speaker 23: to do a country album. I'm quite happy for him

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01:53:12,293 --> 01:53:15,893
Speaker 23: to stay a pop star. So that's just my version. Look,

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01:53:15,933 --> 01:53:18,893
Speaker 23: other people might want to take that somewhere else. But

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01:53:18,933 --> 01:53:21,173
Speaker 23: there's a pop up pub if you happen to be

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01:53:21,213 --> 01:53:24,213
Speaker 23: in Auckland's at the moment in the city in Commercial Bay.

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01:53:24,493 --> 01:53:27,413
Speaker 23: It's called the Old Phone and they're like focusing on

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01:53:27,493 --> 01:53:30,413
Speaker 23: real UK good pints for the guinness and and a

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01:53:30,453 --> 01:53:33,933
Speaker 23: pie to celebrate that album. So you know, that real

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Speaker 23: typical thing where he just takes over the billboards. Will

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01:53:37,853 --> 01:53:40,973
Speaker 23: all be the glittery, jelly pink imagery thing that he's

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Speaker 23: got going on with this album.

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Speaker 3: Everything will be Ed Sharon.

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01:53:46,613 --> 01:53:49,053
Speaker 23: Yeah, absolutely, And of course that huge tour that he

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01:53:49,093 --> 01:53:51,893
Speaker 23: will he's coming here to Enz. He's added an extra

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01:53:51,893 --> 01:53:54,973
Speaker 23: show in Auckland, Wellington and christ Search as well, so

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01:53:55,173 --> 01:53:57,813
Speaker 23: he's making the most of what he's got going on.

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01:53:58,013 --> 01:54:02,373
Speaker 23: I really like that. There's some beautiful influences. I really

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01:54:02,453 --> 01:54:04,653
Speaker 23: like that in the end, percussion, looped kind of stuff

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01:54:04,693 --> 01:54:07,773
Speaker 23: he's got going on through it, think touching on some

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01:54:07,813 --> 01:54:11,013
Speaker 23: different things that really meld quite well with his pop influence.

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01:54:11,133 --> 01:54:11,853
Speaker 3: Yeah right, it's.

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01:54:11,773 --> 01:54:14,133
Speaker 23: Quite It's quite fun some of that. And stupidly catchy

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01:54:14,173 --> 01:54:16,413
Speaker 23: melody is like he's always that's his thing, I think,

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01:54:16,653 --> 01:54:19,133
Speaker 23: isn't it. That's what makes it sound like Ed Sharon. Yeah,

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01:54:19,173 --> 01:54:20,733
Speaker 23: like a catchy melody.

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01:54:20,373 --> 01:54:23,333
Speaker 3: And he has Yeah, he has had a little bit

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01:54:23,373 --> 01:54:26,413
Speaker 3: of success over the years running a catch from time

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01:54:26,493 --> 01:54:27,813
Speaker 3: to time. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:54:27,893 --> 01:54:30,653
Speaker 23: And he's still got that like disheveled, approachable kind of

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01:54:30,693 --> 01:54:33,573
Speaker 23: guy thing about him, yes, you know, and now he's

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01:54:33,573 --> 01:54:36,013
Speaker 23: influencing other artists and you kind of go, oh, that's right.

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01:54:36,053 --> 01:54:39,613
Speaker 23: He's been around for, like I guess commercially about fourteen

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01:54:39,733 --> 01:54:42,533
Speaker 23: fifteen years, so that you know that says a lot

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01:54:42,573 --> 01:54:43,813
Speaker 23: for what he's doing.

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01:54:43,853 --> 01:54:45,613
Speaker 3: He's a big dog. Yeah, So what did you give it?

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Speaker 23: Okay? An eight out of ten, eight out of.

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Speaker 3: Teen for play. I'm looking forward to having a bit

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Speaker 3: of a listener. Okay, well, well we'll pick out one

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Speaker 3: of those tracks and play in a few minutes. Thank

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01:54:52,613 --> 01:54:55,813
Speaker 3: you so much. Estelle eight out of ten for play

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01:54:55,973 --> 01:54:59,333
Speaker 3: by Ed sheeron his latest album, Not to be confused

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01:54:59,333 --> 01:55:01,133
Speaker 3: with this posthumous one that I thought was a joke.

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01:55:01,373 --> 01:55:03,533
Speaker 3: Apparently not, Like I say, we'll play you a bit

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Speaker 3: more in a couple of minutes. It's seven to twelve.

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