1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,933 Speaker 1: from News Talks ab. 3 00:00:12,813 --> 00:00:15,213 Speaker 2: Right, it is time to get your screen time picks 4 00:00:15,253 --> 00:00:18,413 Speaker 2: for this weekend. Carl Pushman is here with two shows 5 00:00:18,453 --> 00:00:21,373 Speaker 2: to watch your stream from your place today. Carl, have 6 00:00:21,493 --> 00:00:26,733 Speaker 2: you Valentine's Jack? Happy Valentine's Day? No, No place I'd 7 00:00:26,813 --> 00:00:29,533 Speaker 2: rather be than than with you, Carl, I can assure 8 00:00:29,573 --> 00:00:31,613 Speaker 2: you of that. Hey, let's start off with your first 9 00:00:31,613 --> 00:00:35,493 Speaker 2: show so streaming on Neon tell Us about Tom Sainsbury's 10 00:00:35,573 --> 00:00:39,013 Speaker 2: Small Town Scandal is This is. 11 00:00:38,893 --> 00:00:42,013 Speaker 3: A comedic who Done It? An eight part series that 12 00:00:42,213 --> 00:00:45,413 Speaker 3: is based on his hit fake true crime podcast If 13 00:00:45,453 --> 00:00:48,773 Speaker 3: You Can Follow Me There. In it, he plays Toby At, 14 00:00:48,773 --> 00:00:51,733 Speaker 3: a s grace journalist who's fled Australia and moved back 15 00:00:51,733 --> 00:00:54,013 Speaker 3: home with his mum in the fictional small ki town 16 00:00:54,053 --> 00:00:56,813 Speaker 3: of Tehiho. That's the kind of place where most everyone 17 00:00:56,853 --> 00:00:59,453 Speaker 3: knows most everyone else. The show kicks off when his 18 00:00:59,573 --> 00:01:03,213 Speaker 3: wealthy uncle dies in a suspicious, fairly gruesome lawnar accident. 19 00:01:03,533 --> 00:01:06,653 Speaker 3: His journalistic instincts kick in. When the official police line 20 00:01:06,653 --> 00:01:09,253 Speaker 3: on the murder doesn't line up with the facts staring 21 00:01:09,253 --> 00:01:12,773 Speaker 3: in front of him, he decides to investigate, and being unemployed, 22 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:16,333 Speaker 3: start the true crime podcast following this investigation. This is 23 00:01:16,373 --> 00:01:18,813 Speaker 3: sort of familiar territory now. We've seen the same kind 24 00:01:18,853 --> 00:01:21,533 Speaker 3: of premise with Steve Martin and Martin Short's excellent Only 25 00:01:21,613 --> 00:01:24,213 Speaker 3: Murders in the Building. Will Forte had a show called 26 00:01:24,213 --> 00:01:27,293 Speaker 3: Bodkin which had a similar premise, and like those shows, 27 00:01:27,373 --> 00:01:30,693 Speaker 3: the small town here is almost solely inhabited by eccentric types, 28 00:01:31,013 --> 00:01:33,573 Speaker 3: and the deeper Toby dives into the death, the more 29 00:01:33,613 --> 00:01:36,933 Speaker 3: suspects and motives he uncovers. You know, Sainsbury's a very 30 00:01:36,933 --> 00:01:39,893 Speaker 3: funny chap and having been adapted from his podcasts, means 31 00:01:39,933 --> 00:01:43,053 Speaker 3: there's plenty of great gags and fast quips throughout. There's 32 00:01:43,053 --> 00:01:45,733 Speaker 3: also a really pleasing absurdist streak sort of laid over 33 00:01:45,733 --> 00:01:48,813 Speaker 3: the top of the whole thing, which I really enjoyed. 34 00:01:49,093 --> 00:01:52,293 Speaker 3: He's assembled a great cast with him local Emmy winner 35 00:01:52,333 --> 00:01:55,493 Speaker 3: morgana O'Reilly, most recently seen in The White Lotus last year. 36 00:01:55,853 --> 00:01:59,493 Speaker 3: She's there. She stars alongside our award winning comedy treasure 37 00:01:59,613 --> 00:02:03,693 Speaker 3: Rose Mattafayo as his cousin, who is humorously referred to 38 00:02:03,773 --> 00:02:07,493 Speaker 3: as cousin Kate the whole time, and as toby'smum's dear 39 00:02:07,493 --> 00:02:10,333 Speaker 3: old Felicity Kendall, she of the Good Life. 40 00:02:10,453 --> 00:02:13,093 Speaker 2: So good. Yeah, Yeah, it's fantastic. 41 00:02:13,253 --> 00:02:15,533 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's really funny. If you've listened to the podcast, 42 00:02:15,653 --> 00:02:17,893 Speaker 3: it's still worth tuning in because he's reworked the crime, 43 00:02:17,973 --> 00:02:19,693 Speaker 3: which I think is quite a nifty thing to have done, 44 00:02:19,773 --> 00:02:22,493 Speaker 3: so this time is a different murderer. If you haven't, 45 00:02:22,613 --> 00:02:24,613 Speaker 3: it's a killer watch with sharp humor and plenty of 46 00:02:24,693 --> 00:02:26,893 Speaker 3: red hearings to keep you guessing as you try to 47 00:02:26,933 --> 00:02:27,893 Speaker 3: puzzle out who done it. 48 00:02:28,253 --> 00:02:30,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think Tom Sagery is a national treasure. Honestly, 49 00:02:30,893 --> 00:02:33,613 Speaker 2: give that man a knighthood. That the amount of joy 50 00:02:33,813 --> 00:02:36,413 Speaker 2: that he gives to hundreds of thousands of people, I 51 00:02:36,493 --> 00:02:37,973 Speaker 2: honestly reckon would be unrivaled. 52 00:02:38,453 --> 00:02:40,933 Speaker 3: So yeah, i'd agree with that. And he's doing great 53 00:02:41,013 --> 00:02:42,893 Speaker 3: stuff with like he did a movie I forgot the 54 00:02:42,973 --> 00:02:44,213 Speaker 3: name of it, but it's really good at sort of 55 00:02:44,213 --> 00:02:46,013 Speaker 3: a comedy horror, and he's just trying his hand at 56 00:02:46,053 --> 00:02:48,813 Speaker 3: lots of different things and pretty much nailing everything he does. 57 00:02:49,373 --> 00:02:49,533 Speaker 1: Yeah. 58 00:02:49,613 --> 00:02:52,533 Speaker 2: I mean, he's on Educators on TVZ Plus at the moment, 59 00:02:52,533 --> 00:02:54,853 Speaker 2: which is such such good fun as well, and obviously 60 00:02:54,973 --> 00:02:58,133 Speaker 2: his Instagram gags, you know, never that they never fail 61 00:02:58,253 --> 00:03:01,453 Speaker 2: to delight me. So I'm really much, really really looking 62 00:03:01,453 --> 00:03:06,053 Speaker 2: forward to this so small town scandal is as well. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 63 00:03:06,173 --> 00:03:09,413 Speaker 2: Yeah to such a good guy. Right next up on Netflix, 64 00:03:09,733 --> 00:03:10,573 Speaker 2: Queen of Chess. 65 00:03:11,373 --> 00:03:13,493 Speaker 3: Yes now, this is a documentary and the Hungarian chess 66 00:03:13,533 --> 00:03:16,693 Speaker 3: player Dude at Polgar. She's the greatest woman chess player 67 00:03:16,773 --> 00:03:18,933 Speaker 3: of all time. In nineteen eighty seven, at the age 68 00:03:18,933 --> 00:03:21,053 Speaker 3: of twelve, she was rated the number one female chess 69 00:03:21,053 --> 00:03:23,373 Speaker 3: player in the world. Four years later, she became chess's 70 00:03:23,453 --> 00:03:26,693 Speaker 3: youngest grand master, beating Bobby Fisher's record by a month. 71 00:03:27,093 --> 00:03:30,453 Speaker 3: She was an extraordinary player. She had a highly aggressive 72 00:03:30,453 --> 00:03:33,453 Speaker 3: style that one expert describes as ferocious, and in the 73 00:03:33,493 --> 00:03:36,933 Speaker 3: documentary she herself says, I wanted to kill my opponents. 74 00:03:37,013 --> 00:03:39,933 Speaker 3: I would sacrifice everything to get a checkmate. So it's 75 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:42,893 Speaker 3: chess less as civilized game and more as blood sport 76 00:03:43,373 --> 00:03:46,333 Speaker 3: her in her eyes. The main focus of the doco 77 00:03:46,493 --> 00:03:50,493 Speaker 3: is her long running rivalry with Gary Kasparov, the undisputed 78 00:03:50,573 --> 00:03:53,213 Speaker 3: greatest chess player of all time. And you know they 79 00:03:53,333 --> 00:03:57,453 Speaker 3: had these insane clashes, and this footage of all of 80 00:03:57,493 --> 00:04:00,173 Speaker 3: them from the earliest meeting to their final meeting. And 81 00:04:00,293 --> 00:04:03,973 Speaker 3: these are just riveting intents, filled with vivid descriptions from 82 00:04:04,013 --> 00:04:06,293 Speaker 3: both of the players as they explained what they were, 83 00:04:06,733 --> 00:04:08,293 Speaker 3: you know, what their moves were, and what was going 84 00:04:08,373 --> 00:04:11,253 Speaker 3: through their head with each crucial move. And these games, 85 00:04:11,293 --> 00:04:13,933 Speaker 3: you can call them, that were more like feats of endurance. 86 00:04:13,973 --> 00:04:16,573 Speaker 3: Sometimes they would last up to six hours and there 87 00:04:16,693 --> 00:04:19,453 Speaker 3: was huge pressure, huge stakes on the line each and 88 00:04:19,573 --> 00:04:23,773 Speaker 3: every time. But Judas wasn't just battling Gasperov. She was 89 00:04:23,813 --> 00:04:26,013 Speaker 3: also battling the boys club that was a chess world 90 00:04:26,133 --> 00:04:28,413 Speaker 3: at the time. And the documentary does an amazing job 91 00:04:28,493 --> 00:04:32,293 Speaker 3: of showing just how stacked against her it was. She's 92 00:04:32,333 --> 00:04:36,973 Speaker 3: not taken seriously at all, even while dispatching contender after 93 00:04:37,013 --> 00:04:39,773 Speaker 3: contender and winning titles and tournaments, and you know, you 94 00:04:39,853 --> 00:04:42,413 Speaker 3: see her being belittle by those she's just defeated. It 95 00:04:42,573 --> 00:04:45,373 Speaker 3: is crazy. From the enlightened year of twenty thirty six, 96 00:04:45,773 --> 00:04:49,413 Speaker 3: it's crazy to see the insane sexism of the establishment 97 00:04:49,653 --> 00:04:54,213 Speaker 3: at that period of time. Doc Also, yeah, it also 98 00:04:54,253 --> 00:04:57,373 Speaker 3: brings up ideas of nature versus nurture. Her dad wanted 99 00:04:57,413 --> 00:05:00,133 Speaker 3: to prove that geniuses were made and not born so 100 00:05:00,213 --> 00:05:01,773 Speaker 3: by the age of five, he had her taking chess 101 00:05:01,853 --> 00:05:04,973 Speaker 3: lessons from three different coaches, starting early morning and going 102 00:05:05,053 --> 00:05:09,053 Speaker 3: until late at night weekends to holidays. Just a brutal regime. 103 00:05:09,733 --> 00:05:12,213 Speaker 3: It's it's telling when she was old enough to seize 104 00:05:12,253 --> 00:05:13,133 Speaker 3: control of her destiny. 105 00:05:13,453 --> 00:05:13,813 Speaker 2: She did. 106 00:05:14,293 --> 00:05:17,973 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's an abundance of archive footage, archive fal 107 00:05:18,013 --> 00:05:20,893 Speaker 3: footage which is just fascinating, an awesome soundtrack of female 108 00:05:20,973 --> 00:05:24,293 Speaker 3: led post punk bands, and these new interviews with all 109 00:05:24,333 --> 00:05:27,653 Speaker 3: the main players due to Kasparov family members, fast paced, 110 00:05:27,693 --> 00:05:29,333 Speaker 3: intriguing and well worth watch. 111 00:05:29,573 --> 00:05:31,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds good good. They're really probably trying to 112 00:05:31,813 --> 00:05:34,653 Speaker 2: tap into the whole chess thing at the moment. Hey, 113 00:05:34,773 --> 00:05:37,853 Speaker 2: it was a queen's gambit. Was the was the Netflix 114 00:05:37,893 --> 00:05:40,133 Speaker 2: area that obviously went gangbusters? Does it sort of feel 115 00:05:40,173 --> 00:05:42,053 Speaker 2: like it's trying to you know, trying to lean into that, 116 00:05:42,733 --> 00:05:43,413 Speaker 2: Well that was that. 117 00:05:43,533 --> 00:05:46,933 Speaker 3: Was fictional and you know, a riveting watching and really 118 00:05:47,053 --> 00:05:50,373 Speaker 3: cool how they did it all. This being real life 119 00:05:50,613 --> 00:05:54,413 Speaker 3: is just so much more impressive and so much more 120 00:05:54,653 --> 00:05:56,933 Speaker 3: like I was fully absorbed. And it's only ninety ninety 121 00:05:56,973 --> 00:05:59,293 Speaker 3: minutes or so. It's fast watch as well. Yeah, and 122 00:05:59,413 --> 00:06:03,453 Speaker 3: it's just you know that just that that something real 123 00:06:03,933 --> 00:06:08,613 Speaker 3: and tangible. But yeah, Chess, it has got a resurgence 124 00:06:08,693 --> 00:06:11,053 Speaker 3: going on and that interest in the game, and I 125 00:06:11,093 --> 00:06:13,093 Speaker 3: think if there is any passing interest that you have, 126 00:06:13,413 --> 00:06:15,813 Speaker 3: then Queen of Chess is one definitely not to miss. 127 00:06:16,053 --> 00:06:18,413 Speaker 2: Oh superb. Thank you, Carl. So that's Queen of Chess. 128 00:06:18,453 --> 00:06:22,173 Speaker 2: That's on Netflix. Small Town Scandal, Tom Sainsbury's comedy is 129 00:06:22,333 --> 00:06:25,373 Speaker 2: on Neon. 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