1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: For a bloke who says he's stepping back, Lee Child 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: just can't seem to put a pin down. It was 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: last year he told us he was leaving Jack Riacher 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: to his brother. But those retirement roomors started way back 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and since then he's co written reach 6 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: of books. He's also credited with a new Reacher book, 7 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: which is called Into Deep, and that's out next month. 8 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Then we come to his latest venture, which is called 9 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: safe Enough in other stories, it's a collection of short stories. 10 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: So whatn't earth is going on? Lee Child is back 11 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: with us. 12 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Mike. 13 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, and I'm sort of I must confess 14 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: I am slightly confused because I'm pretty sure this is 15 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: how our interviews have gone over the years. So you 16 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: write a book about Jack Reacher, and I talk to 17 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: you about it, and then you tell me that you're 18 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: over writing about Jack Reacher. So then we bring your 19 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: brother in, and then he's writing about Jack Reacher, and 20 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: you say you're out, you're done, it's over. And yet 21 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: here I am in this late August morning, Lee, talking 22 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: to you about your latest book. I thought you'd quit. 23 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we're both right in a way. I mean, 24 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: these are short stories and they have been written over 25 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: my career. You know, I'm betting that you you're a 26 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: radio star, right. I bet you get jobs doing them, 27 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: seeing at charity events or after dinner speaking or something 28 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: like that, and I bet you do it really well, 29 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: but you don't think of that as your main job. Right. 30 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: So my main job was writing Reacher, which I do 31 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: not do anymore. But somebody said, look, you've got all 32 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: these short stories, twenty of them. Why don't you put 33 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: them in a book. And I thought, ah, I don't know. 34 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: I mean it's a bit secret. You know, writing a 35 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: short story is outside of what I normally did. And 36 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: I never took them that. I didn't think they were 37 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: that important because you know, they don't sell very well 38 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: short stories. Nobody really reads them. So they were kind 39 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: of secret projects of mine that I would do anything 40 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: that I wanted. And I said, I'm a bit nervous 41 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: about it. And the guy said, nah, are they're great? 42 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: You know, this is the thing. Show them what you 43 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: doing outsider Reacher. So I said, all right, and here 44 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: we are twenty short stories in a book, and I'm 45 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: very interested to see what people think of them. I 46 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: like most of them. 47 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: What period of time were they written over. 48 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: I've just looked. The oldest one is exactly twenty years ago, 49 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: two thousand and four, and the others interspersed between then 50 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: and now. It's the sort of thing you get asked 51 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: to do, you know, for a charity volume, or to 52 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: support a writer's organization or something like that. And my 53 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: problem is I have this show business brain that means 54 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: that if you get a lot of money for it, 55 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: lots of people are looking at it, and therefore it's important. 56 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: But because you don't get any money for short stories, 57 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 2: I'm thinking nobody is seeing these, so I can be 58 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: totally free. So this is me being me, and I 59 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: have no idea what people will think. I hope they 60 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: like them, but we shall find out. 61 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: Well, you're a genius, so they will. Could I pick 62 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: when they were written in terms of your writing progression, 63 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: style and skill, given we're talking about a twenty year 64 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: time span. 65 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: I honestly would hope that you could, But actually I 66 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: don't think you would, because I don't think I ever 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 2: got any better from when I started. You know, somebody 68 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: made me reread my first book. It was another charity 69 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: thing whereby the auction off a first edition of a 70 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: book that is annotated in the margins in pencil by 71 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: the author, why did you do that? Why did you 72 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: do this? And so I reread Killing Floor for the 73 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: first time ever, and I thought I was expecting it 74 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: to be like awful, you know, first novel, clunky, But 75 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: it was actually pretty good, and I thought, damn, that's great. 76 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: I felt good for a day, and then I felt 77 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: bad because I thought, wait a minute, have I not 78 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: got any better since I started? 79 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: You might have been brilliant right from the start. That's 80 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: the point, isn't it. The thing about short stories that's 81 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: always fascinated me. Do you write to a prescription? In 82 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: other words, obviously the beginning, middle, and the en been 83 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: you've got to there quickly, But does it have to 84 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: have a prescription? 85 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: It's sort of is dictated by the volume. They usually 86 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: have a theme or a title, you know, like a 87 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: love story aspect, or assassins or secrets or historical anniversaries 88 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: or something. It's dictated to an extent, but you just 89 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: run with it. And what I've loved about doing them 90 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: is that it's quick. You can do them in one day, 91 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: in a passion, in a blaze of creation. You're not 92 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: sitting there for months. You don't have that thing in 93 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: the back of your mind. Oh, I better save that 94 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: for chapter twenty. You just do what you want to do. 95 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: And looking back on them, I can remember where I 96 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: was and what I was doing while I was writing them, 97 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: and they're like a diary to me, and I'm fascinated 98 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: by them. I hope people will be too. 99 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: But every word, the shorter it is. Every word has 100 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 1: to be a gym, though, doesn't it. In a long 101 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: piece of work, you can you know, you can roll 102 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: for a while. These are god be nuggets. 103 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got to be tight, they've got to be fast, 104 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: and you're right every single word because usually there's a limit. 105 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: You know. They don't mind if you come in too long, 106 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: but if you come in too long, you're you're not 107 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: doing it right. It's got to be tight. And so yeah, 108 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: I love that. Every sentence has got to be tight. 109 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: And maybe the next sentence that you would have done 110 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: in a novel, you just skip it and move on. 111 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic. Now I'm going to be interviewing you for 112 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: the next fifteen to twenty years. As you pull out, 113 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: You've got like nine hundred of these tucked away somewhere. 114 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: I think there are a few more. Yeah, and of 115 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: course there are plenty of Reacher short stories that we 116 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: already put in a book, but these are the non reaches, 117 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 2: and yeah, we could we could find some more. I'm sure. 118 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, now, quick report on your brother. Was he 119 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: doing Okay? 120 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's doing. Okay, he's doing. I like 121 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: the books, I think, and you know they're pleasing the fans. 122 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: And yeah, no, he's my little brother. What am I 123 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: going to say? Yes, he's a good it's great, but 124 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: on the other hand, not as good as me. 125 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: No, exactly. Tell you what the television program seems. Are 126 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: you still actively involved in that? That seems to be 127 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: like a real hit. 128 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: It is a huge hit. Yeah, and I thought it 129 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: would be because they put in so much effort and 130 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: skill on that first season. I thought, yeah, this is 131 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: going to work. But it worked way beyond anybody's expectations, 132 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: even Amazon's expectations. They weren't crazy about it. And I 133 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: am involved. We talk all the time. We discuss everything, 134 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: even down to really banal things. I'll get an email 135 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: with a picture of a shoe and somebody will say, 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: would Reacher wear a shoe like this? 137 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, every single detail fantastic. Hey, listen, I 138 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: read something from you the other day suggesting you were 139 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: going to move back to Britain. Is that true? There 140 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: seems to be an angst building about America, American society 141 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: and all that's going on in you're off Is that true? 142 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: It is true. It's scary. I mean, it is beyond 143 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: anything that you can imagine from the outside. I mean, 144 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: I know, you get all the news and you read 145 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: it all and everything, and you have an opinion, but 146 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: it is vicious and toxic and poisonous here. And I'm 147 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: too old to kind of grip my teeth and get 148 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: through four bad years in the hope of having some 149 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: future thing. So yeah, you know, I'm thinking if Trump 150 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: gets elected or selected or whatever, then I'm probably out 151 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: of here. Wow. 152 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: What do you make of what's happened in the last 153 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: couple I mean of the Kamala Harris thing, the Biden thing, 154 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: the convention that we've seen both conventions in the last 155 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. What have you learned from that? 156 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: Well? I was never a huge Biden fan, because I 157 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: thought he was as a senator which was the bulk 158 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: of his career. He was pretty ordinary. But actually he 159 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: did a great job as president, a great job getting 160 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: out of COVID, killing inflation, early boom in the economy. 161 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: He's done really well. But he is too old, There's 162 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: no question about it. I mean, it's just inhuman to 163 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: make a guy that age campaign. And so Kamala took over, 164 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: and I again was dubious about her, But she has 165 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: had a miraculous six weeks and that's got to be 166 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: some kind of political skill or talent. So yeah, I'm 167 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: hopeful about her. 168 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: Okay. Interesting. The other thing I read about you, by 169 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: the way, is your big scrap with your wind farm 170 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: in Wyoming. And the only reason I ask about that 171 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: is we're having this big debate in the country at 172 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: the moment about I mean, everyone is renewables and how 173 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: we do it and where we do it and all 174 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. So is wind farming explain the 175 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: story your problem. You're not anti renewable though, are you? 176 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,239 Speaker 2: Totally not? I mean I'm all in favor of renewable 177 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: and Wyoming they call it the Saudi Arabia of wind 178 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: because it is constantly windy, Plus it is an empty state. 179 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: Nobody lives there. There are literally thousands of square miles 180 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: that are empty. And yeah, thisarticular wind farm, they're doing 181 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: it cheap and lazy because they're doing it near where 182 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: there's already a transmission line, and they're trying to thread 183 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: it between a railroad track and a major highway and 184 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: people's houses simply to save the money of making a 185 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: transmission line for themselves somewhere else. And I've said to them, look, 186 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: I love renewables. I think we should have the biggest 187 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: wind farm on Earth. We should have it visible from 188 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: out of space. It should be the eighth wonder of 189 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: the world. But put it somewhere that can accommodate it. 190 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: And are they Are you winning? 191 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: I think we're going to win simply out of bureaucratic inertia. 192 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: You know, they are so slow at doing anything. Plus 193 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 2: the weather is so bad there they only have a 194 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: kind of three month period of the year where they 195 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: can construct anything. So I think, yeah, they're going to 196 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: bite the bullet and the motto should be go big 197 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: or go home, and they're going to find somewhere to 198 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: make a really big wind farm that nobody sees. It 199 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: doesn't get in anybody's way, but it generates billions of 200 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 2: dollars for the state. They need imagination. 201 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: Do you still like it out in that last time 202 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: we talked to country You always get me confused somewhere 203 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: in winter and then you go somewhere slightly less winter 204 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: refers it was like Colorado, Wyom You're all able to 205 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: pay anyway. Do you still like that part of America 206 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: that you know, that really dissolate part of America? 207 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: I do, But it really is the contrast between densely 208 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: populated areas and not densely populated areas. That is the 209 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: fundamental divide in America, where cities and the rural communities 210 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: are totally different. And so I've got a foot in 211 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: each camp, and there are charming people everywhere. And the 212 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: tragedy is that the kind of person that you know 213 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: AOC in New York the Congress women super hip, called 214 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: woke and all that sort of stuff. And I've met 215 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 2: risk sensible women in Wyoming who can solve problems. If 216 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: you swap the those two around, they would be each 217 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: other within six months. Because that's what you do. You 218 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: adapt to your context, you adapt to your location, and 219 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: you try and help people out the instinct is exactly 220 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: the same. The animosity is stupid fantastic. 221 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: Where would you go back to in Britain if you moved. 222 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: I fancy somewhere around Oxford, because you know it's intellectual 223 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: and I'd never got in the university, so at least 224 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: I can go and live there now and pretend that 225 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: I'm in Brideshead revisited. 226 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: Well, wherever we find you next timely, it's always a 227 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: pleasure to catch up. Go will with this book end. 228 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: Are good to talk to you as always. 229 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I lovely to talk it my speech here soon. 230 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: There he is out of New York this morning, safe 231 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: enough and other stories Lee Child. 232 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 233 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 234 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.