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Speaker 2: A good afternoon and welcome into the Saturday edition of

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Speaker 2: Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB for January twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine Show producer Andy McDonald. We're talking sport

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Speaker 2: with you until three o'clock this afternoon. It's now nine

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Speaker 2: days since New Zealand Rugby parted ways with Scott Robertson

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Speaker 2: as All Blacks coach. I've got to admit it feels

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Speaker 2: like a month, doesn't it. So much seems to have

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Speaker 2: been written and spoken about this. I simply cannot remember

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Speaker 2: a biggest sporting story in recent times. So where to now?

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Speaker 2: Who is going to get the gig? How will they decide?

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Speaker 2: And how quickly do we need to get moving on

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Speaker 2: all of this? I know you'll have some views. We

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Speaker 2: are going to open the lines two of New Zealand's

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Speaker 2: most experienced rugby voices, Gregor Paul and Tony Johnson are

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Speaker 2: going to join us shortly to kick this around and

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Speaker 2: then we will open the lines your views and opinions

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Speaker 2: just as important. Plenty of time for that this hour

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Speaker 2: as well. Just a word on the show tomorrow, twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours from now, we're going to get a slightly

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Speaker 2: different perspective on all of this, a unique perspective. Eddie

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Speaker 2: Jones is on Weekend Sport tomorrow just after midday. That

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Speaker 2: will be compulsory listening, no doubt. Other matters around today.

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Speaker 2: The Big Bash Final tomorrow night and features one of

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Speaker 2: the players of the tournaments who just happens to be

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Speaker 2: a kei we Finn Allen. He has scored the most,

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Speaker 2: rather the second most runs in the entire comp that's

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Speaker 2: only a three run difference with David Warner. His Perth

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Speaker 2: scorch is going to host the Sydney Sixers, who beat

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Speaker 2: the Hobart Hurricanes last night to earn their place. Finn

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Speaker 2: Allen joins us after one Aukland the FC back home

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. They're going to play the Central Coast Mariners

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Speaker 2: from five. Jesse Randall is on the show and the

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Speaker 2: latest Sam versus Sam is on tonight in Fanganui. Sam

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Speaker 2: Tanner against Sam Ruth, this time over the mile distance

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Speaker 2: at the Cook's Classic. Nick Beuley with us to preview

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Speaker 2: that and other features of this iconic track and field meeting.

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Speaker 2: Adam Peacock out of Australia in his regular slot. A

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Speaker 2: lot of live sport on this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 2: The Australian Tennis Open continues. Among those on court on

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Speaker 2: day seven are the two defending champions, Women's ninth seed

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Speaker 2: Madison Keys and men's second Sedionick Siner. We'll get you

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Speaker 2: to Melbourne after one with Craig Gabriel. Final around super

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Speaker 2: Smash cricket action in Napier. We're the permitting of course

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Speaker 2: up Central v. Sparks at ten past two. The men

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Speaker 2: to follow. Football's Oceania Pro League continues at Albany this

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Speaker 2: after noon. Solomon Kings against Tahiti United from two thirty,

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Speaker 2: and the fourth stage of Cycling's Men's Tour down Under

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Speaker 2: underway at one thirty this afternoon. Kiwi's FinFisher Black, Lawrence Pithy,

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Speaker 1: Let's scoop from the trash fields and the court on

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Speaker 4: Where's Jason Vine News Talks nb SO.

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Speaker 2: Nine days now since the biggest sports story in recent

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Speaker 2: memory played out with New Zealand Rugby parting ways with

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Speaker 2: Scott Robertson, attention has now turned to the recruitment of

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Speaker 2: a new head coach, with the All Blacks about to

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Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup in twenty twenty seven now on the horizon.

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Speaker 2: So where to now? What is the process for finding

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Speaker 2: the new coach? Is time of the essence here? And

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Speaker 2: who's going to run the recruitment and make the decision?

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Speaker 2: With no CEO currently in place, We've assembled two of

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Speaker 2: Gregor Paul is with us. Thanks for the time or

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Speaker 2: taking the time, Gregor, good afternoon.

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Speaker 5: Good afternoon plenty.

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Speaker 2: And Tony Johnson, Skysport commentator also on the line, TJ.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon to.

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Speaker 6: You, hey, Pony.

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Speaker 2: TJ. Is Jamie Joseph the front runner for.

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Speaker 6: The role, Well, it would appear so, just from the

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Speaker 6: But I do think that there has to be a process.

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Speaker 6: I mean, David Kirk made it clear that they have

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Speaker 6: They've got to shake the tree and see who is

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Speaker 6: available who would like to, as Lima Sopolga put it

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Speaker 6: and center of the thinking at the moment. But there

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Speaker 2: Gregor and look, I totally agree with that TJ. Casting

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Speaker 2: is obviously the best strategy. But Gregor, is their time

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Speaker 2: for that? Super Rugby starts in less than three weeks.

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Speaker 5: I think if you're interested in the job, you can look.

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Speaker 5: Coaches will be watching Super Rugby as it is anyway,

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Speaker 5: these guys are going to be watching it. And look,

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Speaker 5: I don't think you need to be overly concerned about

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Speaker 5: a bit deeper at that point. So look, there's definitely

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Speaker 5: time to your point about Jamie. Look, he could probably

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Speaker 5: still coach. In my view, I think he could still

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Speaker 5: of the All Blacks. Are saying Australia do that with

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Speaker 5: Les Kiss. I don't think it's the worst thing for

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Speaker 5: I absolutely agree with everything he said. It's about getting

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Speaker 7: Jamie.

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Speaker 5: I guess he has the fort Truritis position that he's

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Speaker 2: TJ. Tony Brown, as we know, has worked extensively with

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Speaker 2: World Cup. Is Jamie Joseph without Tony Brown a less

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Speaker 6: Well, certainly, Jamie Joseph with Tony Brown is an extremely

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Speaker 6: Tony Brown in this corner would make Jamie an even

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Speaker 6: he made his point that he's committed to South African Rugby.

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Speaker 6: I don't know this, maybe just a one percent of

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Speaker 6: News Eland Rugby would probably have to buy him out

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Speaker 6: there's no question that Tony Brown in the mix as

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Speaker 6: missing from the All Black Games would make it a

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Speaker 6: very appealing combination. But if he says he's committed to

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Speaker 6: And to me that means that they have to go

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Speaker 6: for one with a proven record, someone with really strong

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Speaker 6: They're just going to have to step into the breach,

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Speaker 6: hit the ground running when it's done, because there's no

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Speaker 2: No? No indeed mess if you're coming up in the

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Speaker 2: World Cup, as I say, on the horizon, Okay, then Gregor,

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Speaker 2: who are the other candidates?

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Speaker 3: Who?

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Speaker 2: Who are those who tick the boxes that are required?

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Speaker 2: Jamie Joseph we know as one, who are the other

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Speaker 5: Well, look, if you forget about in voted com of availability,

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Speaker 5: guys who've coached internationally, who are in New Zealanders. Dave Rennie,

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Speaker 5: I don't know why the Wallabies ever got rid of him,

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two and twenty three. Again question mark,

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Speaker 5: does he want to jump out of the Wallabies into

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Speaker 5: the All Blacks. And he's got a well known family

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Speaker 5: Cootta did a great job of Scotland. I know it's Scotland,

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Speaker 5: Cup in two fifteen. And look, there's probably a few

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Speaker 5: He Ian Foster would be another guy again, you know,

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Speaker 5: was an excellent attack coach for a long time with

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Speaker 5: he's the kind of guy who's got the lack of

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Speaker 5: make a really good contribution to the team. So he'd

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Speaker 5: be another name. I wouldn't rule out at the Stiege.

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Speaker 6: Look, I think those are the sorts of ilk that

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Speaker 2: Absolutely it is TJ because Tony Brown talked about being

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that there's a perception around Scott Hansen

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Speaker 6: roles are about to be filled quite soon anyway, But

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00:22:48,947 --> 00:22:51,427
Speaker 6: then the CEO becomes a pressing issue as well.

432
00:22:51,547 --> 00:22:53,027
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's.

433
00:22:54,707 --> 00:22:57,867
Speaker 6: A tricky landscape at the moment. But I do think

434
00:22:57,907 --> 00:23:01,427
Speaker 6: that David Kirk, I do like the way he has

435
00:23:01,427 --> 00:23:03,147
Speaker 6: at least taken the bull by the horns. There's a

436
00:23:03,147 --> 00:23:05,427
Speaker 6: lot of sympathy around for Scott Robertson at the moment.

437
00:23:05,427 --> 00:23:07,947
Speaker 6: You don't got to easy likable guy. You don't like

438
00:23:07,987 --> 00:23:11,427
Speaker 6: seeing people lose their jobs as kind of a public humiliation.

439
00:23:11,507 --> 00:23:13,267
Speaker 6: But I think he acted if they were going to

440
00:23:13,267 --> 00:23:15,747
Speaker 6: make the decision, they had to make it when they did,

441
00:23:16,227 --> 00:23:19,587
Speaker 6: and now it's just a matter of moving efficiently to

442
00:23:19,627 --> 00:23:21,667
Speaker 6: get the right people and the right jobs.

443
00:23:22,067 --> 00:23:24,627
Speaker 2: Good Man, Toni and you Gregor. Great analysis from you both.

444
00:23:24,627 --> 00:23:27,187
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for lending us your time and expertise.

445
00:23:27,227 --> 00:23:30,427
Speaker 2: Gregor Paul and Tony Johnson was some thoughts on where

446
00:23:30,427 --> 00:23:32,547
Speaker 2: to now for New Zealand rugby as they seek a

447
00:23:32,587 --> 00:23:36,947
Speaker 2: new All Blacks Head coach Scott robertson nine days ago

448
00:23:37,067 --> 00:23:40,427
Speaker 2: relieved of the position, lots to unpack there. We're going

449
00:23:40,507 --> 00:23:42,587
Speaker 2: to open the lines. We're also very shortly going to

450
00:23:42,627 --> 00:23:46,347
Speaker 2: take your Live to Mount Monganui where a press conference

451
00:23:46,747 --> 00:23:50,107
Speaker 2: is about to take place featuring civil defense, also fire

452
00:23:50,227 --> 00:23:52,947
Speaker 2: and police. We're just standing by. We want to bring

453
00:23:52,987 --> 00:23:58,147
Speaker 2: that to you live. Authorities still trying to contact those

454
00:23:58,147 --> 00:24:01,547
Speaker 2: who are unaccounted for. Apparently at the moment, it's been

455
00:24:01,587 --> 00:24:06,347
Speaker 2: reported that six people are still unaccounted for following them

456
00:24:06,427 --> 00:24:10,347
Speaker 2: Moganui landslide, including a fifteen year old girl from Italy.

457
00:24:10,947 --> 00:24:14,707
Speaker 2: Authorities also still trying to contact three others who may

458
00:24:14,787 --> 00:24:17,547
Speaker 2: have left the camp site early. It's just a matter

459
00:24:17,587 --> 00:24:20,827
Speaker 2: of accounting for them. So a press conference to come

460
00:24:21,387 --> 00:24:27,867
Speaker 2: very very shortly. The teenager Sharon Macinko, originally from Italy,

461
00:24:27,947 --> 00:24:30,187
Speaker 2: understood to have been living in Auckland with her family

462
00:24:30,227 --> 00:24:34,587
Speaker 2: since May of twenty twenty four. Authorities currently entering the

463
00:24:34,667 --> 00:24:38,027
Speaker 2: third day of search and rescue efforts. The weather conditions

464
00:24:38,067 --> 00:24:43,267
Speaker 2: are expected to add challenge, with possible thunderstorms and hail

465
00:24:43,467 --> 00:24:46,747
Speaker 2: also forecast, which is not helping things at all. Rescue

466
00:24:46,827 --> 00:24:51,627
Speaker 2: crews in Mount Monganui battling challenging weather conditions. We will

467
00:24:51,627 --> 00:24:54,707
Speaker 2: get you there to the mount very shortly. A vigila

468
00:24:54,707 --> 00:24:57,427
Speaker 2: has been set up by families near the search site.

469
00:24:57,627 --> 00:25:00,547
Speaker 2: While we wait for confirmation of the start of the

470
00:25:00,627 --> 00:25:03,147
Speaker 2: press conference, we can take some calls. Are eight hundred

471
00:25:03,147 --> 00:25:05,827
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty anything you've picked up on there

472
00:25:05,987 --> 00:25:09,587
Speaker 2: from either gregor Paul or from Tony Johnson, or anything

473
00:25:09,587 --> 00:25:12,827
Speaker 2: else that you would like to to get a cross

474
00:25:12,827 --> 00:25:15,067
Speaker 2: Gray panel discussion, says Joe. With t J and Gregory

475
00:25:15,147 --> 00:25:17,827
Speaker 2: the two of the best, aren't they? They They speak

476
00:25:17,907 --> 00:25:22,547
Speaker 2: so well they articulate their thoughts. They have incredible knowledge

477
00:25:22,547 --> 00:25:26,587
Speaker 2: of situations like this. You know, Gregor's work in the

478
00:25:26,627 --> 00:25:30,307
Speaker 2: New Zealand Herald on this story has been absolutely magnificent.

479
00:25:30,387 --> 00:25:33,307
Speaker 2: So yeah, great to have the two of them here. Dallas,

480
00:25:33,307 --> 00:25:35,027
Speaker 2: Hello mate, Yeah.

481
00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:37,627
Speaker 8: Hi, finally and just cut away if you need to

482
00:25:37,627 --> 00:25:42,627
Speaker 8: to the interview at the Mount. Yeah, it seems like

483
00:25:42,907 --> 00:25:48,107
Speaker 8: a real mess to me that I think now rashly

484
00:25:48,147 --> 00:25:53,467
Speaker 8: you've got rid of raiser that sometimes what's what's the

485
00:25:53,547 --> 00:25:56,227
Speaker 8: saying that either the good is the enemy of the

486
00:25:56,347 --> 00:26:01,347
Speaker 8: vest or something. But sometimes you have to I think, well,

487
00:26:02,027 --> 00:26:04,427
Speaker 8: is there alternative any better? Or should we just stick

488
00:26:04,467 --> 00:26:07,227
Speaker 8: with what we've got? But anyway that has been made,

489
00:26:08,307 --> 00:26:10,547
Speaker 8: But it just seems like it's a bit of a mess,

490
00:26:10,747 --> 00:26:13,227
Speaker 8: the whole thing. And so what do you think?

491
00:26:13,787 --> 00:26:16,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think we've come out this side now.

492
00:26:16,347 --> 00:26:18,627
Speaker 2: And look, I think there's going to be a lot

493
00:26:18,667 --> 00:26:22,467
Speaker 2: more said about the process behind this, Dallas. I think

494
00:26:22,587 --> 00:26:25,107
Speaker 2: things are coming to light around the way this was handled,

495
00:26:25,787 --> 00:26:30,507
Speaker 2: the way that the decision was handed down to Scott

496
00:26:30,587 --> 00:26:32,307
Speaker 2: Robertson if we want to call it that, whether there

497
00:26:32,387 --> 00:26:36,027
Speaker 2: was any sort of predetermination here or whether a fair

498
00:26:36,107 --> 00:26:39,667
Speaker 2: and thorough process was followed. I have serious doubts about that,

499
00:26:40,227 --> 00:26:44,547
Speaker 2: but yeah, look, I think it can only remain a

500
00:26:44,587 --> 00:26:46,867
Speaker 2: mess if they don't do something about it. From here,

501
00:26:46,907 --> 00:26:49,707
Speaker 2: we've landed, haven't we in this position? We are where

502
00:26:49,747 --> 00:26:52,467
Speaker 2: we are. You know, we don't have an All Blacks

503
00:26:52,467 --> 00:26:54,707
Speaker 2: head coach in the midst of a time where we

504
00:26:54,747 --> 00:26:58,667
Speaker 2: don't have a CEO either. David Kirk's leadership I think

505
00:26:58,707 --> 00:27:03,947
Speaker 2: has been pretty good, certainly public facing during this time,

506
00:27:04,387 --> 00:27:06,227
Speaker 2: and he, you'd have to imagine, would be part of

507
00:27:06,387 --> 00:27:09,467
Speaker 2: the decision making process around who the new All Blacks

508
00:27:09,507 --> 00:27:11,827
Speaker 2: coach will be interesting to hear Gregor say that he

509
00:27:11,867 --> 00:27:15,147
Speaker 2: thinks that Steve Lancaster, interim CEO, will have a role

510
00:27:15,187 --> 00:27:17,387
Speaker 2: to play. I get the feeling that might be in

511
00:27:17,427 --> 00:27:21,787
Speaker 2: a in an organizational and logistics role in terms of

512
00:27:21,787 --> 00:27:25,987
Speaker 2: bringing together a high performance panel to interview the candidates,

513
00:27:26,387 --> 00:27:29,907
Speaker 2: all of the logistics around that. But yeah, it hasn't

514
00:27:29,947 --> 00:27:34,587
Speaker 2: been as these things rarely are a you know, a

515
00:27:34,707 --> 00:27:39,147
Speaker 2: glowing chapter in the history of the administration. But we

516
00:27:39,227 --> 00:27:41,027
Speaker 2: are where we are, Dallas, and hopefully we can move

517
00:27:41,067 --> 00:27:45,147
Speaker 2: forward confidently from here. Trevor, Hi, mate, wee, how are

518
00:27:45,147 --> 00:27:45,547
Speaker 2: you good?

519
00:27:45,547 --> 00:27:47,427
Speaker 6: Trevors As.

520
00:27:47,507 --> 00:27:49,227
Speaker 9: I just want to say, it's thoughts and prais of

521
00:27:49,267 --> 00:27:52,347
Speaker 9: those people that are like closely connected to what's happened

522
00:27:52,387 --> 00:27:55,787
Speaker 9: in not Monganois. I mean just shocking. But I've said

523
00:27:55,787 --> 00:27:57,827
Speaker 9: about the all blacks and that, but just a bit

524
00:27:57,867 --> 00:28:01,867
Speaker 9: of reality checks. So yeah, I just yeah, courts go

525
00:28:01,907 --> 00:28:04,467
Speaker 9: to those people. But just on the coaching thing, Look,

526
00:28:04,827 --> 00:28:07,747
Speaker 9: I you know, these are my thoughts. I don't think

527
00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:10,587
Speaker 9: there'll be an overseas coach. The only one I think

528
00:28:10,627 --> 00:28:15,307
Speaker 9: that could be is Andy Farrell, and I think Andy

529
00:28:15,387 --> 00:28:17,227
Speaker 9: is the sort of guy that he's been with Island

530
00:28:17,227 --> 00:28:20,267
Speaker 9: for a long time now and he's probably I can

531
00:28:20,427 --> 00:28:24,707
Speaker 9: what I can think of is the only overseas guy

532
00:28:24,787 --> 00:28:26,987
Speaker 9: to get. But the only other thing I will say

533
00:28:28,107 --> 00:28:32,507
Speaker 9: Tony Brown. If Jamie Joseph is a coach, Tony Brown

534
00:28:33,107 --> 00:28:35,867
Speaker 9: one hundred percent will be the assistant coach. And what

535
00:28:36,027 --> 00:28:39,467
Speaker 9: surprises me a little bit is like people are connected

536
00:28:39,507 --> 00:28:43,827
Speaker 9: to sport and quite deeply in sport are sort of saying, oh,

537
00:28:43,867 --> 00:28:46,707
Speaker 9: he's got a contract like a sportsperson with the contract.

538
00:28:47,067 --> 00:28:48,107
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I.

539
00:28:48,067 --> 00:28:50,467
Speaker 9: Mean that's just ridiculous, that's just rediculous.

540
00:28:50,547 --> 00:28:54,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing, Yeah, it wouldn't be the first guy to

541
00:28:54,187 --> 00:28:56,987
Speaker 2: break a contract order. And that's why I think a

542
00:28:57,027 --> 00:28:58,667
Speaker 2: week ago I was trying to get inside the head

543
00:28:58,707 --> 00:29:00,667
Speaker 2: of Tony Brown, and we heard him with Mike during

544
00:29:00,667 --> 00:29:02,827
Speaker 2: the week, and he gave us his answers, like I

545
00:29:02,867 --> 00:29:04,867
Speaker 2: know how deep his desire is to be part of

546
00:29:04,907 --> 00:29:07,147
Speaker 2: the All Blacks Coaching Center. Even said that to Mike,

547
00:29:07,147 --> 00:29:10,747
Speaker 2: didn't he But at the moment, he's going to stick

548
00:29:10,787 --> 00:29:12,747
Speaker 2: with with what he's got. He doesn't even know who

549
00:29:12,787 --> 00:29:14,507
Speaker 2: the head coach is going to be. I guess if

550
00:29:14,507 --> 00:29:17,107
Speaker 2: it was Jamie Joseph, that might perhaps open up that

551
00:29:17,147 --> 00:29:18,947
Speaker 2: one percent chance or whatever it is that he might

552
00:29:18,987 --> 00:29:21,547
Speaker 2: break that contract. But it just goes to show, doesn't it.

553
00:29:21,587 --> 00:29:25,467
Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm sure you listen to to Tony

554
00:29:25,707 --> 00:29:28,187
Speaker 2: and I have read some stuff about it. The fact

555
00:29:28,187 --> 00:29:31,467
Speaker 2: that when he interviewed or when Jamie Joseph interviewed in

556
00:29:31,467 --> 00:29:34,267
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three and Tony Brown was part of his

557
00:29:34,987 --> 00:29:36,387
Speaker 2: was how part of his coaching group that as soon

558
00:29:36,427 --> 00:29:38,947
Speaker 2: as Scott Robinson got the gig that rulled Tony Brown out.

559
00:29:39,387 --> 00:29:41,627
Speaker 2: It just seems mad, you know, when you look at

560
00:29:41,627 --> 00:29:43,667
Speaker 2: it in hindsight, you know, yeah, well.

561
00:29:43,707 --> 00:29:46,707
Speaker 9: He might change that system. But believe me, he will

562
00:29:46,747 --> 00:29:49,667
Speaker 9: be coaching. I wouldn't even be surprised. I think I'm

563
00:29:49,707 --> 00:29:51,547
Speaker 9: a bit of a realist. I wouldn't even be surprised

564
00:29:51,587 --> 00:29:54,947
Speaker 9: if he's spoken to the South African coach already, and

565
00:29:55,027 --> 00:29:57,107
Speaker 9: I've sort of sat down had a beer, and I

566
00:29:57,107 --> 00:29:59,387
Speaker 9: wouldn't be surprised if the South African coaches his lot.

567
00:29:59,427 --> 00:29:59,787
Speaker 7: Mate.

568
00:29:59,947 --> 00:30:02,107
Speaker 9: I've always known you've been an All Black, You're proud

569
00:30:02,107 --> 00:30:04,587
Speaker 9: New Zealand, you've always wanted to coach. You'll Blacks mate,

570
00:30:04,747 --> 00:30:06,667
Speaker 9: if you want to go, I'm happy for to.

571
00:30:06,667 --> 00:30:11,547
Speaker 2: Go, Trevor. I totally agree with that. I agree wholeheartedly

572
00:30:11,627 --> 00:30:14,507
Speaker 2: with that that it wouldn't be at all a surprise

573
00:30:14,547 --> 00:30:17,107
Speaker 2: of Rassi. Erasmus has said to Tony Brown, look, mate,

574
00:30:17,107 --> 00:30:20,267
Speaker 2: full of your heart. We've loved having you here, and

575
00:30:20,387 --> 00:30:22,347
Speaker 2: yes there's a contract which will keep you here. And

576
00:30:22,387 --> 00:30:28,387
Speaker 2: Tony Brown is clearly a very honorable man. But you

577
00:30:28,427 --> 00:30:31,387
Speaker 2: know it's the All Blacks. I remember speaking to Tony

578
00:30:31,387 --> 00:30:35,707
Speaker 2: Brown two three years ago about it. I can't remember

579
00:30:35,707 --> 00:30:39,427
Speaker 2: who was even coaching at that time, and he said, then, yeah,

580
00:30:39,427 --> 00:30:43,867
Speaker 2: of course, every up and coming rugby coach at an

581
00:30:43,907 --> 00:30:47,787
Speaker 2: elite level wants to coach the All Blacks if they

582
00:30:47,827 --> 00:30:51,107
Speaker 2: are a key we and so of course Tony Brown does.

583
00:30:51,187 --> 00:30:51,507
Speaker 4: Of course.

584
00:30:51,667 --> 00:30:55,187
Speaker 2: Look, I think every coach is involved, from probably n

585
00:30:55,307 --> 00:31:00,667
Speaker 2: PC up, certainly from Super Rugby, and especially those who

586
00:31:00,707 --> 00:31:03,347
Speaker 2: have worn the black jersey, as Tony Brown has, as

587
00:31:03,427 --> 00:31:06,907
Speaker 2: Jamie Joseph has, as Scott Robertson has. I know, it's

588
00:31:06,947 --> 00:31:11,267
Speaker 2: not necessarily the key point and it's not a box

589
00:31:11,307 --> 00:31:15,267
Speaker 2: that has to be ticked. Evidence Steve Hanson, Sir Graham,

590
00:31:15,307 --> 00:31:19,547
Speaker 2: Henry John Hart to name just three who haven't been

591
00:31:19,587 --> 00:31:24,427
Speaker 2: All Blacks but were successful All Blacks coaches. But Tony

592
00:31:24,427 --> 00:31:27,987
Speaker 2: Brown looked and he said this to Mike, and you

593
00:31:28,027 --> 00:31:31,987
Speaker 2: may well have heard the interview on Thursday morning that

594
00:31:32,267 --> 00:31:36,147
Speaker 2: for the meantime he's staying where he is now. Whether

595
00:31:36,187 --> 00:31:39,907
Speaker 2: that changes, it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility.

596
00:31:40,307 --> 00:31:44,587
Speaker 2: If we take a hypothetical situation in which Jamie Joseph

597
00:31:44,747 --> 00:31:47,747
Speaker 2: is appointed All Blacks head coach, it would not be

598
00:31:47,787 --> 00:31:50,027
Speaker 2: beyond the realms of possibility that he might ring Tony

599
00:31:50,067 --> 00:31:52,067
Speaker 2: Brown and say, hey, Tony, I know what you said,

600
00:31:52,707 --> 00:31:56,987
Speaker 2: but I'm offering you this gig. What about it? And

601
00:31:57,747 --> 00:32:00,707
Speaker 2: would Tony Brown be able to resist that. You know,

602
00:32:00,707 --> 00:32:03,107
Speaker 2: it would become a moral against an emotional argument, really,

603
00:32:03,147 --> 00:32:06,107
Speaker 2: wouldn't it. And like Trevor said, I honestly think Rassi

604
00:32:06,107 --> 00:32:08,987
Speaker 2: would be you know, he might not necessarily go with

605
00:32:09,067 --> 00:32:12,947
Speaker 2: his blessing. But it's like any workplace, isn't it. You know,

606
00:32:13,147 --> 00:32:15,707
Speaker 2: somebody gets an opportunity somewhere else and it's something that

607
00:32:15,747 --> 00:32:20,267
Speaker 2: you know that they've always coveted, they've always been ambitious about,

608
00:32:20,267 --> 00:32:23,267
Speaker 2: they've always had as a goal. Yes, of course you

609
00:32:23,307 --> 00:32:26,707
Speaker 2: want your own organization to be as powerful and as

610
00:32:26,747 --> 00:32:29,827
Speaker 2: effective and as efficient as possible. But I don't think

611
00:32:29,827 --> 00:32:31,707
Speaker 2: you want to stand in the way of people's dreams,

612
00:32:31,747 --> 00:32:35,107
Speaker 2: do you. Maybe that's a bit naive. It probably is.

613
00:32:37,547 --> 00:32:39,507
Speaker 2: And Tony brown on the other side of the coin,

614
00:32:39,627 --> 00:32:41,707
Speaker 2: probably knows that this job is not going to be

615
00:32:42,907 --> 00:32:46,507
Speaker 2: Take it now or you'll never get it. He'll be

616
00:32:46,547 --> 00:32:49,067
Speaker 2: talked about for a long time. What but Tony Brown

617
00:32:49,067 --> 00:32:51,707
Speaker 2: Bee would be early fifties. He's got plenty of time,

618
00:32:52,507 --> 00:32:54,547
Speaker 2: plenty of time. You know, he's got the chance to

619
00:32:54,587 --> 00:32:58,027
Speaker 2: be part of a South African coaching group that can

620
00:32:58,067 --> 00:33:00,627
Speaker 2: make history by becoming the first ever team to win

621
00:33:00,707 --> 00:33:04,507
Speaker 2: three consecutive Rugby World Cups. That's a pretty compelling proposition

622
00:33:04,587 --> 00:33:07,667
Speaker 2: as well. Pinty controversy opinion. I think this drama has

623
00:33:07,667 --> 00:33:10,827
Speaker 2: been good for the All Blacks, says this text. People

624
00:33:10,827 --> 00:33:13,547
Speaker 2: are talking about it. It's actually interesting. It is supposed

625
00:33:13,547 --> 00:33:17,067
Speaker 2: to be entertainment. After all, New Zealand rugby has become

626
00:33:17,067 --> 00:33:20,507
Speaker 2: a bit boring up till now, lacking personalities. The NRL

627
00:33:20,547 --> 00:33:22,867
Speaker 2: dominates it from an entertainment perspective. I'm not sure that

628
00:33:22,867 --> 00:33:26,547
Speaker 2: the entertainment we necessarily want is this, this whole theater

629
00:33:26,627 --> 00:33:28,147
Speaker 2: of the coaching. But I take your point. I mean

630
00:33:28,187 --> 00:33:30,027
Speaker 2: we are talking about it, aren't we. Look if you'd

631
00:33:30,027 --> 00:33:33,467
Speaker 2: said to me a month ago, as we were approaching Christmas, hey,

632
00:33:33,467 --> 00:33:36,547
Speaker 2: we're going to be talking rugby, you know, pretty you

633
00:33:36,587 --> 00:33:40,267
Speaker 2: know pretty seriously in the in the middle of January,

634
00:33:40,307 --> 00:33:42,707
Speaker 2: I would have wondered what you were talking about. Normally,

635
00:33:42,707 --> 00:33:45,467
Speaker 2: would I get to it until Super Rugby gets underway?

636
00:33:45,467 --> 00:33:49,947
Speaker 2: But it's all anybody has been talking about. Greg says

637
00:33:49,947 --> 00:33:53,427
Speaker 2: the All Blacks. In a game plan without the best

638
00:33:53,427 --> 00:33:54,987
Speaker 2: players in the world and the best coach, it won't

639
00:33:54,987 --> 00:33:56,627
Speaker 2: make any difference. They don't seem to have a game plan.

640
00:33:56,667 --> 00:33:58,987
Speaker 2: They rely on one or two superstars to get our trouble.

641
00:33:58,987 --> 00:34:01,107
Speaker 2: Need a game plan where that's the coaches. That's the

642
00:34:01,147 --> 00:34:06,667
Speaker 2: coach's role, isn't it to implement or to certainly come

643
00:34:06,747 --> 00:34:09,987
Speaker 2: up with a game plan. All sorts of names are

644
00:34:10,027 --> 00:34:14,747
Speaker 2: being being talked about. Bring back John Mitchell says, Blackie.

645
00:34:14,787 --> 00:34:16,907
Speaker 2: He's done really well in the Northern hemisphere. He's tough,

646
00:34:16,947 --> 00:34:22,227
Speaker 2: he's been there, he's done that. James says, Tony Johnson

647
00:34:22,267 --> 00:34:25,027
Speaker 2: should be part of the technical coaching squad along with

648
00:34:25,027 --> 00:34:29,107
Speaker 2: Ian Smith, and they should get both Jamie Joseph and

649
00:34:29,187 --> 00:34:32,427
Speaker 2: Dave Rennie working together. They're both good buggers. If they

650
00:34:32,427 --> 00:34:35,067
Speaker 2: could or wanted to work together with people like Richie mccare,

651
00:34:35,867 --> 00:34:40,867
Speaker 2: Dan Carter, Tony Johnson. There's all sorts going on here.

652
00:34:40,867 --> 00:34:42,667
Speaker 2: I think we all sort of have tried to come

653
00:34:42,707 --> 00:34:46,507
Speaker 2: up with our dream teams, haven't we. And you know,

654
00:34:47,107 --> 00:34:50,867
Speaker 2: Gregor and TJ both alluded to this teams of people

655
00:34:50,867 --> 00:34:54,227
Speaker 2: who might potentially, if they were able to work together,

656
00:34:54,267 --> 00:34:56,467
Speaker 2: be a bit of a you know, be a bit

657
00:34:56,467 --> 00:35:01,267
Speaker 2: of a dream team. I saw the Jamie Joseph, Tony Brown,

658
00:35:01,827 --> 00:35:07,867
Speaker 2: Dave Rennie trio being talked about a lot. Peter says

659
00:35:07,867 --> 00:35:10,227
Speaker 2: if Tony Brown's an honorable man, he'll stick to his contract.

660
00:35:11,067 --> 00:35:13,427
Speaker 2: If he broke it, he's not the right person. Integrity

661
00:35:13,467 --> 00:35:16,907
Speaker 2: is everything. People who think it's okay to break commitments

662
00:35:16,987 --> 00:35:20,427
Speaker 2: lack integrity. Thanks Peter, Yeah, I totally get that, and

663
00:35:20,827 --> 00:35:24,587
Speaker 2: I think that came through and listening to Tony Brown

664
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Speaker 2: during the week that he, you know, is he feels

665
00:35:33,147 --> 00:35:35,747
Speaker 2: duty bound. He signed a contract and he wants to

666
00:35:35,787 --> 00:35:38,067
Speaker 2: honor that contract. Good Bevan.

667
00:35:40,267 --> 00:35:43,227
Speaker 10: Hey, Josh, when do you think New Zealanders will be

668
00:35:43,347 --> 00:35:47,027
Speaker 10: accept accepting of overseas coach because I'm thinking Stephen Larkham

669
00:35:47,267 --> 00:35:48,067
Speaker 10: from the Brumbies.

670
00:35:49,227 --> 00:35:53,907
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say never, but it feels like never, Bevan.

671
00:35:53,987 --> 00:35:54,587
Speaker 2: It feels like.

672
00:35:56,227 --> 00:35:59,907
Speaker 10: It feels like we're cutting off our nose despite our face.

673
00:35:59,947 --> 00:36:05,107
Speaker 2: Though almost certainly, almost certainly, almost certainly yes, But I

674
00:36:05,507 --> 00:36:08,267
Speaker 2: just it's it just doesn't seem like a frontier that

675
00:36:08,307 --> 00:36:10,907
Speaker 2: there's any appetite to cross. But you're so right.

676
00:36:10,947 --> 00:36:11,387
Speaker 7: It's a shame.

677
00:36:11,507 --> 00:36:13,107
Speaker 2: It is a shame. It is a shame. We've done

678
00:36:13,107 --> 00:36:15,307
Speaker 2: in other sports, haven't we. We've had, you know, Australian

679
00:36:15,307 --> 00:36:18,147
Speaker 2: coaches for our cricket team for example. If we want

680
00:36:18,147 --> 00:36:20,107
Speaker 2: to know compare it to that same with the Keewe

681
00:36:20,227 --> 00:36:24,827
Speaker 2: rugby League team. Yeah, Larkham, I think you're a good

682
00:36:24,867 --> 00:36:26,787
Speaker 2: young up and comer. You look around the world at

683
00:36:26,827 --> 00:36:29,147
Speaker 2: the moment and you say, Okay, if Rassi Erasmus was

684
00:36:29,427 --> 00:36:31,827
Speaker 2: hypothetically available to the All Blacks, would they turn him

685
00:36:31,827 --> 00:36:34,107
Speaker 2: away just because he was South African.

686
00:36:35,827 --> 00:36:36,307
Speaker 5: Exactly?

687
00:36:36,347 --> 00:36:38,267
Speaker 10: And that kind of seems what's happening because it's sort

688
00:36:38,267 --> 00:36:41,507
Speaker 10: of like, isn't isn't the endgame all Blacks winning? Who

689
00:36:41,587 --> 00:36:42,027
Speaker 10: cares who?

690
00:36:42,227 --> 00:36:43,907
Speaker 9: Where the coach comes from?

691
00:36:44,467 --> 00:36:47,347
Speaker 2: Very good point, Bevin, Yeah, it'll be a tough sell,

692
00:36:47,747 --> 00:36:49,587
Speaker 2: But then that might you know that that if it

693
00:36:49,667 --> 00:36:52,267
Speaker 2: was the right person and like I say, they were

694
00:36:52,267 --> 00:36:56,027
Speaker 2: credentialed and they had success, you know, then I think,

695
00:36:56,387 --> 00:36:58,747
Speaker 2: you know, we probably would get over it pretty quickly.

696
00:36:59,027 --> 00:37:02,027
Speaker 2: But it's interesting that nobody is really talking about overseas

697
00:37:02,027 --> 00:37:03,267
Speaker 2: options at the moment.

698
00:37:04,107 --> 00:37:04,547
Speaker 11: Not at all.

699
00:37:04,627 --> 00:37:07,067
Speaker 10: Yeah, to me, it just seems like a very limited

700
00:37:07,147 --> 00:37:10,547
Speaker 10: and at the moment. What happened with David Kirkins, Yeah,

701
00:37:10,627 --> 00:37:13,507
Speaker 10: like people have caught up. We basically don't have a CEO,

702
00:37:13,787 --> 00:37:16,867
Speaker 10: you don't have a coach. We're almost the coupboards there,

703
00:37:17,107 --> 00:37:19,347
Speaker 10: you know, like a dog doesn't even have any water

704
00:37:19,467 --> 00:37:21,667
Speaker 10: to drink, So it's just sort of like, yeah, I reckon,

705
00:37:21,747 --> 00:37:22,547
Speaker 10: we're in big trouble.

706
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Speaker 2: Thanks Bevan. Yeah, I was thinking about that the other

707
00:37:25,267 --> 00:37:26,867
Speaker 2: day too. We were chatting about it in the office

708
00:37:26,947 --> 00:37:30,587
Speaker 2: yesterday about the meat on the bones at New Zealand Rugby.

709
00:37:30,587 --> 00:37:34,187
Speaker 2: In terms of the decision making around this, you know,

710
00:37:34,267 --> 00:37:37,747
Speaker 2: no CEO currently, no Head of high performance. Other roles

711
00:37:38,187 --> 00:37:41,627
Speaker 2: in the organization which aren't necessarily related to this but

712
00:37:42,347 --> 00:37:44,987
Speaker 2: have yet to be filled. The CEO one's really interesting.

713
00:37:45,027 --> 00:37:48,427
Speaker 2: Mark Robinson resigned in June and here we are now

714
00:37:48,467 --> 00:37:53,747
Speaker 2: in late January and this person hasn't hasn't yet been found.

715
00:37:54,347 --> 00:37:55,707
Speaker 2: We're going to take you in to Mount Mongowe as

716
00:37:55,747 --> 00:37:57,747
Speaker 2: soon as possible. Twelve forty four News Talks d B.

717
00:38:00,627 --> 00:38:03,307
Speaker 4: This is news talk, said be breaking news.

718
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Speaker 2: Let's take you to Mount Monganuby.

719
00:38:08,947 --> 00:38:11,467
Speaker 11: Good, you're good to go. Thanks for coming. He Ron.

720
00:38:11,907 --> 00:38:15,107
Speaker 12: Afternoon today we're giving an update in terms of the

721
00:38:15,147 --> 00:38:19,347
Speaker 12: operation here at the Mount. I can announce as of

722
00:38:19,387 --> 00:38:22,387
Speaker 12: now we are moving into a recovery phase from a

723
00:38:22,467 --> 00:38:27,947
Speaker 12: rescue operation. I just want to acknowledge all the USA teams,

724
00:38:28,467 --> 00:38:32,107
Speaker 12: the police dog handlers, the police officers, the firemen and

725
00:38:32,307 --> 00:38:35,827
Speaker 12: contractors and many others who have been working tirelessly at

726
00:38:35,827 --> 00:38:39,867
Speaker 12: this scene are quite a remarkably large sized scene.

727
00:38:39,867 --> 00:38:42,347
Speaker 11: For the last two days. All of those.

728
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Speaker 12: People working on site have been working for the rescue

729
00:38:46,907 --> 00:38:50,667
Speaker 12: of six people who have been unaccounted for since Thursday

730
00:38:50,707 --> 00:38:53,987
Speaker 12: morning in the slip, and their work has been nothing

731
00:38:54,027 --> 00:38:58,307
Speaker 12: short of outstanding. And so I just want to mention

732
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Speaker 12: that first up, we're now moving into a recovery phase

733
00:39:02,707 --> 00:39:08,027
Speaker 12: and this is heartbreaking news for us and also obviously

734
00:39:08,107 --> 00:39:12,507
Speaker 12: the families involved. We have been working closely with them

735
00:39:12,547 --> 00:39:16,867
Speaker 12: since Thursday morning. We're still talking about six unaccounted people

736
00:39:17,747 --> 00:39:18,827
Speaker 12: and those names.

737
00:39:18,547 --> 00:39:24,747
Speaker 11: Will be released two media after this conference. I just

738
00:39:25,107 --> 00:39:29,987
Speaker 11: also like to acknowledge the support of the Fire Service.

739
00:39:29,867 --> 00:39:33,627
Speaker 12: And many other agencies that have been working tirelessly over

740
00:39:33,667 --> 00:39:34,467
Speaker 12: the last.

741
00:39:35,827 --> 00:39:37,667
Speaker 11: Two or three days since Thursday morning.

742
00:39:37,707 --> 00:39:42,107
Speaker 12: Since this happened, there's been a lot of bravery showing

743
00:39:42,147 --> 00:39:45,547
Speaker 12: in terms of the work going on. It's been difficult conditions.

744
00:39:46,907 --> 00:39:49,987
Speaker 12: Everyone's been hoping for the best, but we're now in

745
00:39:50,027 --> 00:39:55,747
Speaker 12: a situation where overnight we have have now found human remains,

746
00:39:57,187 --> 00:40:00,187
Speaker 12: and so we're working through that phase now. I'll just

747
00:40:00,227 --> 00:40:03,747
Speaker 12: hand over now to the Chief Coroner who can talk

748
00:40:03,787 --> 00:40:05,707
Speaker 12: to that talk to that phase of things.

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Speaker 13: Ten culture Cutur. I want to start by offering my

750
00:40:11,307 --> 00:40:15,067
Speaker 13: sincere condolences to the families and friends of those who

751
00:40:15,267 --> 00:40:19,067
Speaker 13: have lost their lives in the weather related events. This

752
00:40:19,147 --> 00:40:22,507
Speaker 13: is an unimaginably terrible time for those people who've lost

753
00:40:22,507 --> 00:40:27,387
Speaker 13: the people they love. Here at the campground, human remains

754
00:40:27,547 --> 00:40:30,587
Speaker 13: have been reported, as the district Commander has just said,

755
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Speaker 13: and these are now in the custody of the coroner

756
00:40:34,067 --> 00:40:39,027
Speaker 13: recovery if its continue. I want to assure the families

757
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Speaker 13: and friends of those who are unaccounted for that once

758
00:40:42,667 --> 00:40:46,547
Speaker 13: recovery of victims is possible, they'll be treated with dignity

759
00:40:46,587 --> 00:40:50,547
Speaker 13: and respect, and we are known specific cultural needs will

760
00:40:50,587 --> 00:40:54,907
Speaker 13: be met to the greatest extent possible. The victims who

761
00:40:54,987 --> 00:40:58,027
Speaker 13: have died will be transported to the mortuary at Hamilton

762
00:40:59,027 --> 00:41:01,907
Speaker 13: and kept there until they are able to be reunited

763
00:41:01,947 --> 00:41:06,587
Speaker 13: with families, and I'll be speaking more with families today

764
00:41:06,387 --> 00:41:12,267
Speaker 13: about the processes that are likely to be followed. Coroners

765
00:41:12,307 --> 00:41:15,907
Speaker 13: have a specific role under the law that includes making

766
00:41:15,947 --> 00:41:20,387
Speaker 13: decisions about post mortem examinations and with the assistance of

767
00:41:20,467 --> 00:41:25,347
Speaker 13: police and other specialists determining the identification of those who

768
00:41:25,747 --> 00:41:29,627
Speaker 13: are unaccounted for and those who have died. In a

769
00:41:29,667 --> 00:41:33,907
Speaker 13: case like this, as you can appreciate, identification can be

770
00:41:33,947 --> 00:41:39,867
Speaker 13: a painstaking, complex, lengthy process, especially when people are seriously injured.

771
00:41:40,707 --> 00:41:45,707
Speaker 13: That process takes time. We know families will be desperate

772
00:41:45,787 --> 00:41:49,747
Speaker 13: to have the people they love reunited with them. We

773
00:41:49,867 --> 00:41:55,547
Speaker 13: understand that, and that drives our actions. We'll be speaking

774
00:41:55,547 --> 00:41:59,387
Speaker 13: to families again more about that later today, but we

775
00:41:59,467 --> 00:42:03,067
Speaker 13: have to get it right. We work very closely with

776
00:42:03,227 --> 00:42:10,507
Speaker 13: police and other specialists. We follow international best practice. The

777
00:42:10,587 --> 00:42:13,827
Speaker 13: last thing we want is to have any family traumatized

778
00:42:13,907 --> 00:42:19,387
Speaker 13: by having a person other than their family member returned

779
00:42:19,427 --> 00:42:22,747
Speaker 13: to them, and we know that that's happened multiple times

780
00:42:22,987 --> 00:42:26,667
Speaker 13: when tragic events have happened overseas. We'll do everything we

781
00:42:26,707 --> 00:42:29,347
Speaker 13: can to make sure that that doesn't happen here, and

782
00:42:29,427 --> 00:42:32,907
Speaker 13: that means that will work as quickly as possible, but

783
00:42:33,507 --> 00:42:37,587
Speaker 13: we will be taking every care to ensure that identifications

784
00:42:37,627 --> 00:42:41,787
Speaker 13: are accurate. We can't say how long that process will take,

785
00:42:43,067 --> 00:42:45,427
Speaker 13: but I give my absolute assurance to all of those

786
00:42:45,467 --> 00:42:48,987
Speaker 13: affected that we will work as carefully and as quickly

787
00:42:49,067 --> 00:42:53,107
Speaker 13: as we can to reunite families. The police family liaison

788
00:42:53,147 --> 00:42:57,827
Speaker 13: officers will keep families informed at every step of the process. Again,

789
00:42:58,187 --> 00:43:01,707
Speaker 13: I want to reassure family and friends that the people

790
00:43:01,907 --> 00:43:04,307
Speaker 13: they love who have died in this tragedy will be

791
00:43:04,347 --> 00:43:07,827
Speaker 13: treated with dignity and respect as we work through the

792
00:43:07,867 --> 00:43:12,107
Speaker 13: processes that we need to follow. My condolences to everyone affected.

793
00:43:14,627 --> 00:43:17,747
Speaker 4: Tim, did you expect to move into a recovery base?

794
00:43:17,827 --> 00:43:24,347
Speaker 12: So so, look, it's it's fair to say that the

795
00:43:24,387 --> 00:43:27,427
Speaker 12: staff working at the site since Sunesday morning have been

796
00:43:27,467 --> 00:43:30,667
Speaker 12: living in hope that that someone that was still alive.

797
00:43:30,747 --> 00:43:32,707
Speaker 11: And look, we're still working.

798
00:43:32,427 --> 00:43:36,827
Speaker 12: Through it, and until we've actually completed the search, that's

799
00:43:36,947 --> 00:43:40,627
Speaker 12: you know, the likelihood of someone being alive is highly

800
00:43:40,907 --> 00:43:44,147
Speaker 12: unlikely according to the experts, but you could never rule

801
00:43:44,187 --> 00:43:46,147
Speaker 12: that out, and so we have never ruled that out

802
00:43:46,347 --> 00:43:47,507
Speaker 12: for the first couple of days.

803
00:43:47,547 --> 00:43:50,387
Speaker 11: So we've relied on expert advice.

804
00:43:50,067 --> 00:43:52,947
Speaker 12: And also from what we've seen and uncovered at the scene,

805
00:43:53,227 --> 00:43:55,707
Speaker 12: which has been a huge piece of work.

806
00:43:55,787 --> 00:43:57,587
Speaker 1: And before you hear a found this, you would before

807
00:43:57,587 --> 00:43:58,907
Speaker 1: you found that you never roved from MADS.

808
00:43:58,947 --> 00:44:02,827
Speaker 14: Did you have any prior indication that that was the case, or.

809
00:44:02,227 --> 00:44:03,947
Speaker 2: Was it quite sudden.

810
00:44:05,467 --> 00:44:06,867
Speaker 11: Sorry it was the but.

811
00:44:07,027 --> 00:44:10,147
Speaker 4: Was it quite sort of finance education?

812
00:44:10,987 --> 00:44:13,427
Speaker 11: There was no indication of signs of life.

813
00:44:13,387 --> 00:44:17,067
Speaker 12: And and so then we just found found those human

814
00:44:17,147 --> 00:44:17,907
Speaker 12: rains last night.

815
00:44:18,067 --> 00:44:21,187
Speaker 11: How sorry, what.

816
00:44:21,227 --> 00:44:23,347
Speaker 15: Area of research do you found those humans?

817
00:44:24,187 --> 00:44:26,467
Speaker 12: It's fair to say, Look, I can't I'm not gonna

818
00:44:26,467 --> 00:44:29,867
Speaker 12: speak going to the details, but it's it's in an

819
00:44:29,867 --> 00:44:33,467
Speaker 12: area we're expected to find those that aren't account for.

820
00:44:35,347 --> 00:44:36,227
Speaker 11: I'm not gonna go into that.

821
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Speaker 16: How long do you expect this next phase with the

822
00:44:37,947 --> 00:44:38,547
Speaker 16: operation to go?

823
00:44:38,747 --> 00:44:42,467
Speaker 12: So looks as the coroner said, we have particular processes

824
00:44:42,467 --> 00:44:47,227
Speaker 12: around that. It's really important that we do the identification

825
00:44:47,427 --> 00:44:54,267
Speaker 12: right and we follow strict disaster identification processes, so you

826
00:44:54,667 --> 00:44:56,787
Speaker 12: could we could expect this to take some days.

827
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Speaker 17: And in terms of recovering all of those accounting.

828
00:44:59,467 --> 00:45:01,547
Speaker 11: For, yeah, that could take some days from here.

829
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Speaker 12: My main concern and those behind me right now, is

830
00:45:05,987 --> 00:45:09,227
Speaker 12: as actually, whilst we've got processes to follow and we're

831
00:45:09,267 --> 00:45:12,227
Speaker 12: managing all the different phases, is actually the safety of

832
00:45:12,227 --> 00:45:13,147
Speaker 12: the staff working on it.

833
00:45:13,187 --> 00:45:15,267
Speaker 11: If you look at the mount now, I don't think

834
00:45:15,307 --> 00:45:16,067
Speaker 11: anyone would.

835
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Speaker 12: Have envisaged a slip that size in terms of the

836
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Speaker 12: depth and the width of it and you can see

837
00:45:20,507 --> 00:45:24,427
Speaker 12: around it. There's still a lot of mud and other aspects.

838
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Speaker 12: So my primary considerations is actually their health and well

839
00:45:27,907 --> 00:45:29,227
Speaker 12: being and safety of our own stuff.

840
00:45:29,187 --> 00:45:32,067
Speaker 17: Well, at what point did we did you find those

841
00:45:32,107 --> 00:45:32,827
Speaker 17: remains and at what.

842
00:45:32,827 --> 00:45:36,427
Speaker 12: Point did you speak to Yes, Look, we've been speaking

843
00:45:36,427 --> 00:45:39,067
Speaker 12: to the family throughout of sea and we've updated them

844
00:45:39,547 --> 00:45:40,147
Speaker 12: in terms of.

845
00:45:40,107 --> 00:45:43,147
Speaker 11: Everything that I've just disclosed now to them this morning.

846
00:45:44,187 --> 00:45:46,147
Speaker 11: So they've been kept. A praise to in terms of

847
00:45:46,187 --> 00:45:46,907
Speaker 11: what's going on.

848
00:45:48,107 --> 00:45:51,587
Speaker 2: That is coming to you from Mount Moganui dreadful news.

849
00:45:51,627 --> 00:45:54,067
Speaker 2: The key points of what we've just heard. Police have

850
00:45:54,147 --> 00:45:56,947
Speaker 2: found human remains in Mount Morganui. These are now in

851
00:45:56,987 --> 00:45:59,987
Speaker 2: the custody of the coroner. Police, so they have found

852
00:45:59,987 --> 00:46:02,747
Speaker 2: remains in an area they expected to find them. Police

853
00:46:02,827 --> 00:46:07,107
Speaker 2: updated families on these findings this morning. Remains behold in

854
00:46:07,187 --> 00:46:09,627
Speaker 2: Mortuary and Hamilton and kept there until they can be

855
00:46:09,667 --> 00:46:14,027
Speaker 2: reunited with families. The coroner says identification will the painstaking

856
00:46:14,387 --> 00:46:17,107
Speaker 2: and it is a lengthy process which they cannot give

857
00:46:17,147 --> 00:46:20,907
Speaker 2: a timeline for. Police say they're moving into a recovery

858
00:46:21,347 --> 00:46:25,187
Speaker 2: phase rather than a rescue operation. Police a staff had

859
00:46:25,187 --> 00:46:27,107
Speaker 2: been living in Hope that someone was still alive, but

860
00:46:27,147 --> 00:46:30,187
Speaker 2: it's now highly unlikely. According to experts, there have been

861
00:46:30,187 --> 00:46:33,067
Speaker 2: no signs of human life. The next phase could take

862
00:46:33,107 --> 00:46:37,227
Speaker 2: some days. Names will be released of these six unaccounted

863
00:46:37,267 --> 00:46:41,547
Speaker 2: for after the media conference and police finished by saying

864
00:46:41,587 --> 00:46:45,587
Speaker 2: this is heartbreaking news for the families involved. That is

865
00:46:45,627 --> 00:46:48,987
Speaker 2: the latest we have from Mount Monganuy. More to come

866
00:46:49,107 --> 00:46:52,387
Speaker 2: in our news at one o'clock and across the afternoon

867
00:46:52,547 --> 00:46:56,107
Speaker 2: as well as the terrible events of the last few

868
00:46:56,187 --> 00:46:59,027
Speaker 2: days have unfolded. That is the latest that we can

869
00:46:59,067 --> 00:47:04,747
Speaker 2: bring you from Mount Monganui. Weekend sport will continue after

870
00:47:05,027 --> 00:47:07,707
Speaker 2: one o'clock. Thank you for all your correspondents around the

871
00:47:08,107 --> 00:47:11,147
Speaker 2: rugby Apologies we couldn't get all of those calls on

872
00:47:11,187 --> 00:47:13,307
Speaker 2: the air. After one o'clock we're going to catch up

873
00:47:13,347 --> 00:47:17,027
Speaker 2: with Finn Allen, Black Caps opening batsman in the T

874
00:47:17,027 --> 00:47:20,387
Speaker 2: twenty format. His Perth scorches are into the Big Bash

875
00:47:20,467 --> 00:47:23,787
Speaker 2: Final which is on tomorrow night. Craig Gabriel out of

876
00:47:23,947 --> 00:47:26,947
Speaker 2: the Australian Tennis Open in Melbourne coming up as well.

877
00:47:33,347 --> 00:47:34,827
Speaker 2: Message from Will If the All Blacks have won the

878
00:47:34,827 --> 00:47:37,427
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three World Cup with this decision still have

879
00:47:37,507 --> 00:47:39,427
Speaker 2: been made, is the fact that having not won a

880
00:47:39,467 --> 00:47:42,227
Speaker 2: World Cup in eight years, is that a difference if

881
00:47:42,227 --> 00:47:44,427
Speaker 2: we were holding it now? The importance of winning the

882
00:47:44,467 --> 00:47:46,867
Speaker 2: next one since it's been so long, if we'd one

883
00:47:46,867 --> 00:47:50,827
Speaker 2: in twenty three, would raise us still be there. This

884
00:47:50,867 --> 00:47:52,467
Speaker 2: is New Zealand and this is the All Blacks we're

885
00:47:52,467 --> 00:47:55,147
Speaker 2: talking about. Will goes on to say, thanks mate. After

886
00:47:55,507 --> 00:47:58,587
Speaker 2: one we're off to South Africa. What do they make

887
00:47:58,747 --> 00:48:01,347
Speaker 2: of all this? Soon find out, Adam Peacock, This is

888
00:48:01,387 --> 00:48:04,827
Speaker 2: our Craig Gabriel, speaking of the Australian Tennis Open, also

889
00:48:04,947 --> 00:48:07,827
Speaker 2: set to join us. Looking forward to catching up with

890
00:48:07,907 --> 00:48:11,027
Speaker 2: Craig as we enter the first four weekend of action

891
00:48:11,307 --> 00:48:14,867
Speaker 2: at the Australian Tennis Open. Your calls and correspondence continue

892
00:48:14,867 --> 00:48:16,987
Speaker 2: to be welcomed on any topic. Oh eight hundred and

893
00:48:17,027 --> 00:48:20,187
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty nine two ninety two if you would

894
00:48:20,227 --> 00:48:23,987
Speaker 2: prefer to send us a text. Finn Allen has had

895
00:48:24,307 --> 00:48:28,747
Speaker 2: a superb Big Bash campaign with the Perth Scorches. He

896
00:48:28,867 --> 00:48:32,707
Speaker 2: is the competition's second highest run scorer with four hundred

897
00:48:32,747 --> 00:48:36,747
Speaker 2: and thirty, just three runs behind former Australian David Warner,

898
00:48:37,107 --> 00:48:42,307
Speaker 2: including a brilliant century from Finn Allen against the Melbourne Renegades.

899
00:48:43,347 --> 00:48:44,227
Speaker 4: Are the same.

900
00:48:44,747 --> 00:48:48,427
Speaker 2: That's bigger, but even further, that's amormous.

901
00:48:49,147 --> 00:48:51,067
Speaker 18: That's well over one hundred minutes.

902
00:48:51,867 --> 00:48:55,387
Speaker 2: He's teeing up. I'm not sure I've ever seen a ball.

903
00:48:55,867 --> 00:48:56,987
Speaker 19: It's the second.

904
00:48:56,667 --> 00:49:01,707
Speaker 2: Tier over long on here at Marble. That is absolutely

905
00:49:01,787 --> 00:49:02,667
Speaker 2: massive for fin.

906
00:49:02,587 --> 00:49:06,427
Speaker 18: Allen ninety eight for Allan a slower ball he wants to.

907
00:49:09,107 --> 00:49:22,627
Speaker 2: He gets too. Brilliant, brutal, batty win it outstanding one hundred.

908
00:49:21,907 --> 00:49:24,587
Speaker 18: Yeah, that's the best way to describe it as feed

909
00:49:24,707 --> 00:49:26,947
Speaker 18: has been brutal, eight.

910
00:49:26,907 --> 00:49:30,747
Speaker 2: Sixes, absolutely outstanding from finn Allen. His formers helped the

911
00:49:30,747 --> 00:49:33,507
Speaker 2: Scorches into tomorrow night's Grand Final in Perth and has

912
00:49:33,507 --> 00:49:35,987
Speaker 2: seen him named in the Team of the Tournament, decided

913
00:49:36,027 --> 00:49:39,387
Speaker 2: by voting among the league's eight head coaches. This all comes,

914
00:49:39,387 --> 00:49:41,987
Speaker 2: of course, as he prepares to head to India to

915
00:49:42,067 --> 00:49:44,707
Speaker 2: join the black Caps ahead of the T twenty World

916
00:49:44,707 --> 00:49:47,587
Speaker 2: Cup next month. Thinn eleanor's with us for an always

917
00:49:47,587 --> 00:49:51,747
Speaker 2: great to catch up. Congratulations on an utterly superb Big

918
00:49:51,787 --> 00:49:55,067
Speaker 2: Bash campaign. How do you reflect back on the campaign

919
00:49:55,547 --> 00:49:56,107
Speaker 2: on the whole.

920
00:49:56,747 --> 00:49:59,827
Speaker 20: Yeah, it was great to talk to you two. Piney, Yeah,

921
00:49:59,827 --> 00:50:00,867
Speaker 20: I think as a whole.

922
00:50:00,907 --> 00:50:01,427
Speaker 11: I think.

923
00:50:02,747 --> 00:50:06,947
Speaker 20: For me personally, I guess it's just nice, you know,

924
00:50:07,067 --> 00:50:09,547
Speaker 20: see the work that I've been putting in building up

925
00:50:09,547 --> 00:50:10,307
Speaker 20: to the tournament and.

926
00:50:10,267 --> 00:50:11,867
Speaker 11: Probably over the last months of my.

927
00:50:11,947 --> 00:50:16,387
Speaker 20: Game obviously coming back from surgery and all that, having

928
00:50:16,387 --> 00:50:18,707
Speaker 20: a bit of downtime, you need to reflect on a

929
00:50:18,707 --> 00:50:20,787
Speaker 20: lot of things and my style of play and how

930
00:50:20,827 --> 00:50:22,947
Speaker 20: I want to go about my owning. So I guess

931
00:50:22,947 --> 00:50:25,427
Speaker 20: to put that into practice before a pretty big couple

932
00:50:25,467 --> 00:50:28,227
Speaker 20: of months it was always nice. And then yeah, just

933
00:50:28,267 --> 00:50:32,227
Speaker 20: to contribute to the Perth team obviously felt like last

934
00:50:32,307 --> 00:50:34,027
Speaker 20: year was pretty gutting for me.

935
00:50:34,307 --> 00:50:35,187
Speaker 4: Felt like I kind.

936
00:50:35,027 --> 00:50:37,827
Speaker 20: Of, I wouldn't say let the team down, but obviously

937
00:50:37,867 --> 00:50:40,627
Speaker 20: didn't contribute as much as I would have liked. And

938
00:50:40,707 --> 00:50:42,507
Speaker 20: to do that a bit better this year is always

939
00:50:42,827 --> 00:50:44,387
Speaker 20: nice to feel like you're contributing to the team.

940
00:50:44,547 --> 00:50:48,707
Speaker 2: Absolutely. So what in particular did you focus on as

941
00:50:48,747 --> 00:50:51,667
Speaker 2: you were looking for those improvements going into the season.

942
00:50:52,827 --> 00:50:55,867
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think first and foremost was I guess having

943
00:50:55,867 --> 00:50:57,667
Speaker 20: a bit more of a clearer game plan of how

944
00:50:57,667 --> 00:50:59,787
Speaker 20: I want to go about, you know, batting at Perth

945
00:50:59,787 --> 00:51:03,507
Speaker 20: Obviously optics can be a little bit different to other grounds,

946
00:51:03,587 --> 00:51:06,227
Speaker 20: and the wicket as well, that the extra bounce and

947
00:51:06,387 --> 00:51:08,707
Speaker 20: probably see movement that you get ad optus can be

948
00:51:08,747 --> 00:51:09,867
Speaker 20: a little bit more challenging.

949
00:51:09,907 --> 00:51:11,067
Speaker 14: So I guess just.

950
00:51:11,027 --> 00:51:12,867
Speaker 20: Formulating more of a plan of how I want to

951
00:51:12,947 --> 00:51:15,907
Speaker 20: start my ownings and and I guess technically it's just

952
00:51:16,187 --> 00:51:19,467
Speaker 20: you know, for me, been working really still unstable at

953
00:51:19,467 --> 00:51:22,987
Speaker 20: the crease and so that I can Yeah, basically, I'm

954
00:51:22,987 --> 00:51:24,547
Speaker 20: just trying to hit the ball where it should go,

955
00:51:25,187 --> 00:51:29,747
Speaker 20: less premeditation, less focus on you know, being aggressive. I

956
00:51:29,787 --> 00:51:32,787
Speaker 20: know that I guess I naturally score quite quickly if

957
00:51:32,827 --> 00:51:36,467
Speaker 20: I'm putting myself in strong positions and allowing myself the

958
00:51:36,547 --> 00:51:37,987
Speaker 20: chance to do that. So I guess in a way,

959
00:51:37,987 --> 00:51:40,387
Speaker 20: I've just been trying to earn the right to hit

960
00:51:40,627 --> 00:51:41,427
Speaker 20: more boundaries.

961
00:51:41,547 --> 00:51:44,947
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've done that a record number of sixes

962
00:51:45,427 --> 00:51:48,587
Speaker 2: as well. Is that a you know, was that a

963
00:51:48,587 --> 00:51:50,587
Speaker 2: target I want to hit the most sixers in Big

964
00:51:50,587 --> 00:51:52,427
Speaker 2: Besh history or not? Really?

965
00:51:53,347 --> 00:51:53,627
Speaker 4: Nah?

966
00:51:53,747 --> 00:51:54,547
Speaker 14: No, definitely not.

967
00:51:54,907 --> 00:51:57,387
Speaker 20: I wasn't even aware of it until I was obviously told.

968
00:51:58,467 --> 00:52:01,507
Speaker 20: Not really a big stats guy, to be honest, A

969
00:52:01,547 --> 00:52:03,427
Speaker 20: lot of mine wouldn't read too great at the best

970
00:52:03,427 --> 00:52:08,067
Speaker 20: of times anyway. But but yeah, I think it's just again,

971
00:52:08,107 --> 00:52:10,507
Speaker 20: it's just a reflection of for me, where my game's

972
00:52:10,507 --> 00:52:11,147
Speaker 20: at at the moment.

973
00:52:12,027 --> 00:52:14,507
Speaker 2: So as we look ahead to the final, then how

974
00:52:14,547 --> 00:52:17,667
Speaker 2: confident do you feel that the Scorches can win one

975
00:52:17,707 --> 00:52:20,747
Speaker 2: more game and left that trophy before you head off

976
00:52:20,747 --> 00:52:21,387
Speaker 2: to the World Cup.

977
00:52:22,387 --> 00:52:25,427
Speaker 20: Yeah, very confident. I think, you know, definitely back our boys.

978
00:52:25,427 --> 00:52:29,147
Speaker 20: We've got a lot of Our whole team is seriously talented.

979
00:52:29,627 --> 00:52:32,467
Speaker 20: Our batting lineup is probably one of that complaining into

980
00:52:32,587 --> 00:52:36,027
Speaker 20: national cricket. And I think that the way our bowlers

981
00:52:36,067 --> 00:52:38,427
Speaker 20: have come back when we've potentially thought we were a

982
00:52:38,467 --> 00:52:41,867
Speaker 20: little bit low on runs has been incredible And just

983
00:52:41,907 --> 00:52:44,067
Speaker 20: the whole feel in the group. You know, we really

984
00:52:44,107 --> 00:52:47,147
Speaker 20: back ourselves and we back each other, which is really special.

985
00:52:47,147 --> 00:52:50,387
Speaker 20: And I think we've been preparing so well all tournament

986
00:52:50,387 --> 00:52:52,827
Speaker 20: and I think we've done that again this week. We've

987
00:52:52,827 --> 00:52:54,907
Speaker 20: had a couple of days off just to chill and

988
00:52:54,947 --> 00:52:57,987
Speaker 20: relax the bodies a bit. Some guys trained yesterday and

989
00:52:57,987 --> 00:53:00,267
Speaker 20: then yeah, we get in as a squad today and

990
00:53:00,347 --> 00:53:02,267
Speaker 20: tomorrow in the build up to.

991
00:53:02,667 --> 00:53:05,707
Speaker 2: Sunday outstanding and then beyond that, of course, gee, we're

992
00:53:05,747 --> 00:53:08,147
Speaker 2: all looking forward to the T twenty World Cup. There's

993
00:53:08,147 --> 00:53:10,867
Speaker 2: obviously the advanced party there at the moment playing matches

994
00:53:10,907 --> 00:53:13,667
Speaker 2: against India. You know, I know you're only focusing on

995
00:53:13,707 --> 00:53:16,067
Speaker 2: the Big Bash and one more game at the moment,

996
00:53:16,147 --> 00:53:19,387
Speaker 2: but how exciting are how excited are you to hop

997
00:53:19,427 --> 00:53:20,907
Speaker 2: on a plane and get across to Indy with the

998
00:53:20,907 --> 00:53:21,387
Speaker 2: black Caps.

999
00:53:22,147 --> 00:53:23,387
Speaker 11: Oh, it's going to be so good.

1000
00:53:23,827 --> 00:53:28,427
Speaker 20: Slightly smaller boundaries which is always nice, but no, it's

1001
00:53:28,427 --> 00:53:30,947
Speaker 20: obviously really good to see the boys, you know, carrying

1002
00:53:30,947 --> 00:53:33,267
Speaker 20: a lot of momentum from that ODI series into a

1003
00:53:33,307 --> 00:53:37,467
Speaker 20: pretty exciting month and a bit for us. Like I said,

1004
00:53:37,467 --> 00:53:39,427
Speaker 20: I think the scrub we've got for the black Caps

1005
00:53:39,507 --> 00:53:43,027
Speaker 20: is you know, it's incredibly strong. We've got all facets covered,

1006
00:53:43,067 --> 00:53:45,707
Speaker 20: so you know, I'm confident in our boys as well.

1007
00:53:47,107 --> 00:53:50,547
Speaker 20: And yeah, I'll be following this five game series closely.

1008
00:53:50,627 --> 00:53:50,787
Speaker 17: You know.

1009
00:53:50,827 --> 00:53:51,587
Speaker 11: It's great to me.

1010
00:53:51,747 --> 00:53:55,467
Speaker 20: Siph and Lockie getting over there as well is even

1011
00:53:55,467 --> 00:53:56,467
Speaker 20: more exciting for us.

1012
00:53:56,627 --> 00:53:59,307
Speaker 2: What do you expect in terms of the wickets over there,

1013
00:53:59,867 --> 00:54:02,427
Speaker 2: I mean they will be quite different, won't they. The

1014
00:54:02,427 --> 00:54:05,107
Speaker 2: wickets from Australian surfaces.

1015
00:54:05,907 --> 00:54:09,467
Speaker 20: Yeah, I guess chen I typically can spin a bit more,

1016
00:54:09,787 --> 00:54:13,347
Speaker 20: which is exciting. I guess I quite enjoy that challenge,

1017
00:54:13,707 --> 00:54:15,667
Speaker 20: but again we'll have a lot of time before to

1018
00:54:16,107 --> 00:54:18,667
Speaker 20: prepare and get used to those wickets as well. I

1019
00:54:18,667 --> 00:54:21,707
Speaker 20: think that's something part of my game that I'm trying

1020
00:54:21,707 --> 00:54:24,467
Speaker 20: to work really hard on is being adaptable to all surfaces,

1021
00:54:24,507 --> 00:54:29,107
Speaker 20: and I guess having time before game time starts to

1022
00:54:29,227 --> 00:54:32,667
Speaker 20: prepare on those wickets will be really helpful. And yeah,

1023
00:54:32,707 --> 00:54:34,507
Speaker 20: like I said, I'm just really excited to get back

1024
00:54:34,547 --> 00:54:36,467
Speaker 20: over there and get that fern back on my chest.

1025
00:54:36,587 --> 00:54:39,507
Speaker 2: Absolutely looking forward to seeing you and with T twenty cricket.

1026
00:54:39,507 --> 00:54:41,907
Speaker 2: I mean, you're out there from the start, you know.

1027
00:54:42,187 --> 00:54:45,307
Speaker 2: Have you have you found a way to I don't know,

1028
00:54:45,747 --> 00:54:48,547
Speaker 2: because it seems so you know, something that would really

1029
00:54:48,587 --> 00:54:51,547
Speaker 2: get the adrenaline pumping right getting out there, big crowds,

1030
00:54:52,067 --> 00:54:54,467
Speaker 2: first ball coming down at you, wanting to get away

1031
00:54:54,507 --> 00:54:57,147
Speaker 2: to a fast start. Have you found a way to

1032
00:54:57,227 --> 00:55:01,147
Speaker 2: manage yourself emotionally to be more effective in T twenty?

1033
00:55:02,467 --> 00:55:02,707
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1034
00:55:02,787 --> 00:55:05,907
Speaker 20: I think obviously you fiddle around with your adrenaline levels

1035
00:55:05,947 --> 00:55:08,507
Speaker 20: over the year and figure out whether being really amped

1036
00:55:08,627 --> 00:55:11,147
Speaker 20: or the opposite is best. And I think for me,

1037
00:55:11,547 --> 00:55:14,067
Speaker 20: you know, just being as relaxed as possible and being

1038
00:55:14,107 --> 00:55:17,667
Speaker 20: really calm and composed as the most beneficial for me.

1039
00:55:17,787 --> 00:55:20,427
Speaker 20: I think it helps me, you know, think a bit clearer.

1040
00:55:21,347 --> 00:55:24,387
Speaker 20: You know, when typically you get going and you hit

1041
00:55:24,427 --> 00:55:26,747
Speaker 20: a couple of boundaries, it gets the adrenaline pumping, So

1042
00:55:26,827 --> 00:55:28,347
Speaker 20: I just try and rain that in a bit so

1043
00:55:28,387 --> 00:55:30,507
Speaker 20: that I can, you know, stay focused on what's coming

1044
00:55:30,507 --> 00:55:33,987
Speaker 20: down at me rather than what's happened before or thinking

1045
00:55:33,987 --> 00:55:35,107
Speaker 20: too far ahead as well.

1046
00:55:36,307 --> 00:55:38,547
Speaker 14: So yeah, I guess it's probably a slight mental.

1047
00:55:38,307 --> 00:55:40,267
Speaker 20: Shift for me in that regard as well as just

1048
00:55:40,347 --> 00:55:42,427
Speaker 20: you know, focusing on what's coming at me ball by

1049
00:55:42,467 --> 00:55:45,227
Speaker 20: ball rather than getting too swipped up in what I

1050
00:55:45,267 --> 00:55:49,107
Speaker 20: want to do or you know, being being ultra aggressive

1051
00:55:49,107 --> 00:55:52,867
Speaker 20: and things like that. I think has helped and particularly

1052
00:55:52,907 --> 00:55:55,027
Speaker 20: helps me with being able to rotate strike as well

1053
00:55:55,067 --> 00:55:56,867
Speaker 20: so that I'm not getting bogged down. And then it

1054
00:55:56,867 --> 00:55:59,907
Speaker 20: allows my partner to also get into their innings as well.

1055
00:56:01,107 --> 00:56:03,747
Speaker 20: You know, going from Mitch Master to Timmy Sithe is

1056
00:56:03,787 --> 00:56:07,347
Speaker 20: pretty similar in terms of their approach. They also like

1057
00:56:07,427 --> 00:56:11,347
Speaker 20: to play pretty aggressively, so you know, it definitely helps

1058
00:56:11,347 --> 00:56:14,827
Speaker 20: me and takes the pressure off me. So yeah, all

1059
00:56:14,867 --> 00:56:15,947
Speaker 20: things to look forward.

1060
00:56:15,707 --> 00:56:18,507
Speaker 2: To absolutely a lot to look forward to in the

1061
00:56:18,547 --> 00:56:21,187
Speaker 2: middle of a busy week, Finn, thanks for chatting to us.

1062
00:56:21,187 --> 00:56:23,547
Speaker 2: All the best in the Big Bash Final for starters

1063
00:56:23,587 --> 00:56:25,507
Speaker 2: and can't wait to see what happens when you join

1064
00:56:25,587 --> 00:56:26,827
Speaker 2: up with the black Caps in India for the T

1065
00:56:26,947 --> 00:56:28,427
Speaker 2: twenty World Cup. Thanks for the chat as.

1066
00:56:28,307 --> 00:56:30,427
Speaker 14: Always, no no worries mate, Thank you.

1067
00:56:30,667 --> 00:56:33,027
Speaker 2: That is Finn Allen in the form of his life

1068
00:56:33,067 --> 00:56:35,627
Speaker 2: as he prepares for the Big Bash Final tomorrow night

1069
00:56:35,787 --> 00:56:38,467
Speaker 2: in Perth scorches v six's and then he'll hop on

1070
00:56:38,507 --> 00:56:40,227
Speaker 2: a plane and link up with the black Caps ahead

1071
00:56:40,227 --> 00:56:42,987
Speaker 2: of the T twenty World Cup in India next month.

1072
00:56:43,027 --> 00:56:45,827
Speaker 2: Of course, New Zealand currently playing in a five match

1073
00:56:45,867 --> 00:56:49,027
Speaker 2: T twenty series against India as part of a warm

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Speaker 2: up for the T twenty World Cup. Great matches to

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Speaker 2: have two games in, two games lost for the black Caps.

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Speaker 2: They're quickly finding out just how quickly things can change.

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Speaker 2: The One Day International series, of course was one and

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Speaker 2: that was in history make or a history making one

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Speaker 2: day series in India. But yeah to the T twenty

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Speaker 2: mode and man the Indians certainly this morning came out

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Speaker 2: and absolutely smashed it, chasing down two hundred plus and

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Speaker 2: one about the sixteenth over. So yeah, big scores in coming.

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Speaker 2: You'd have to think at the T twenty Cricket World Cup,

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00:57:22,387 --> 00:57:24,467
Speaker 2: not a bad time for Finn Allen to be hitting

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Speaker 2: the kind of form that he is. This is News Talk,

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Speaker 2: Sheed B and Weekend Sport. You might have some thoughts

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Speaker 2: on the black Caps. Are eight hundred and eighty ten

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00:57:31,627 --> 00:57:34,227
Speaker 2: eighty lines open nine two nine two for your text messages.

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Speaker 2: Very shortly we're off to Melbourne, Craig Gabriel with us

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Speaker 2: out of the Australian Tennis Open.

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Speaker 4: It's more than just a game.

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and GJ Gardnerhomes, New Zealand's most.

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Speaker 4: Trusted home builder, News TALKSB.

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Speaker 2: One forty three. Here on News Talks THEIRB and Weekend Sport.

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Speaker 2: Week one of the Australian Tennis Open is done. Big

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Speaker 2: Australian hope Alex d Manure safely through to the fourth round.

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Speaker 11: Fifteen.

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Speaker 19: It's into night, what contest and the straight set the

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Speaker 19: games the second Australian.

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Speaker 21: Man Street concept of terraces in a line of sixteen

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Speaker 21: year Alex de Minua through.

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Speaker 2: He will meet Alexander Bublick in the fourth round. Our

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Speaker 2: regular Australian correspondent Adam Peacock has been watching on at

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Speaker 2: Melbourne Park for the last weekend, will be there for

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Speaker 2: the week. Ahad heavily invested and involved in the coverage

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Speaker 2: of the tennis. Thanks for taking the time for us, though.

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Speaker 2: Adam is always Alex de Manure. I mean, he's safely through,

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00:58:51,507 --> 00:58:54,307
Speaker 2: but his issue is if he beats Bublick, he'll play

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Speaker 2: top seed Carlos Alcarez in the quarterfinals. But before we

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Speaker 2: even get to that, what have you made of his

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Speaker 2: three matches so far?

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Speaker 7: Very good?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I thought last night was going to be a

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Speaker 17: lot closer than it turned out to be against CFO,

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Speaker 17: but Alex was spectacular for two of their sets.

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Speaker 7: And he's a part of raised his game.

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00:59:13,667 --> 00:59:15,827
Speaker 17: And then Alex did the hard part, which is to

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00:59:15,867 --> 00:59:17,987
Speaker 17: find a way to actually close it out.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, he's he's.

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Speaker 17: Done everything expected of him and a little bit more.

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Speaker 17: I reckon his first three matches.

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Speaker 7: But it does get harder to get our Karaz.

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Speaker 17: The guy's playing next, Alexander Bublick. He's a seriously good

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Speaker 17: player at the moment. He's now in the top ten. Sorry,

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Speaker 17: I'm walking past the mcg where it's seems the trains

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Speaker 17: has gone past.

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Speaker 7: And it's very loud in the background. But yeah, he's

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Speaker 7: he's a seriously good player.

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Speaker 17: So his next clash is borderline fifty to fifty because

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Speaker 17: Burblics is absolutely a.

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Speaker 7: Top ten part.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, you got a high quality phone. I didn't

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Speaker 2: hear the train at all. All I could hear was

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Speaker 2: you talking about the tennis. What have you made of

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00:59:56,187 --> 01:00:00,427
Speaker 2: it overall? And we've hardly lost any seeds, which is

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Speaker 2: fairly unusual. Normally you get a seed or two fall

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Speaker 2: in the first week. Has the standard of the top

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01:00:06,427 --> 01:00:09,027
Speaker 2: player has just been on the whole very good this

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Speaker 2: first week.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, and I think, look, you can dive into it

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01:00:14,187 --> 01:00:17,027
Speaker 17: any which way. Maybe it's just because they've played well

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01:00:17,067 --> 01:00:20,387
Speaker 17: and there you go. But maybe an extra week's preparation

1143
01:00:20,467 --> 01:00:22,307
Speaker 17: as well, because it's a week later this year that

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01:00:22,427 --> 01:00:26,267
Speaker 17: the calendar decades every seven years that this is the

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01:00:26,347 --> 01:00:28,707
Speaker 17: latest possible start for it, So they've had a bit

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Speaker 17: more of arrest, a bit more of a preseason, and

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01:00:30,747 --> 01:00:33,627
Speaker 17: then class is able to identify itself a bit more

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01:00:33,667 --> 01:00:36,747
Speaker 17: if everyone has a bit longer to prepare, and the

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Speaker 17: lower ranked players and sometimes sometimes you've got lower ranked

1150
01:00:40,547 --> 01:00:43,827
Speaker 17: players who are down there for injury reasons or you know,

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01:00:44,347 --> 01:00:47,147
Speaker 17: form drop offs or whatever and then they rediscover themselves. Well,

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Speaker 17: at the moment, it looks like the top ten in

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Speaker 17: the men's and women's is pretty settled. I mean the

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Speaker 17: only guy topped my head is Felix Augia Eliathin who

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Speaker 17: with the seventh seed, and he had an injury issues

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Speaker 17: that made him retire from his first round match. So

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Speaker 17: apart from that, everyone's kind of got through and played well.

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Speaker 7: You're right, it's gone to plan.

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Speaker 2: It sits up a very interesting second week. Other matters

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Speaker 2: around an Australian sport NRL star with the Roosters, New

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01:01:11,667 --> 01:01:15,067
Speaker 2: South Wales the Kangaroos, Angus Crichton announcing this week he's

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Speaker 2: going to rugby union, but not until twenty twenty seven

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Speaker 2: when he'll join the war a task clearly wants to

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01:01:20,587 --> 01:01:22,987
Speaker 2: make a play at the World Cup squad for the Wallabies.

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Speaker 2: Is that going to give him enough time? And you

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Speaker 2: look at Angus Crichton as a rugby league player, I

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01:01:27,907 --> 01:01:30,787
Speaker 2: mean terrific player. Is that long enough though to make

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Speaker 2: the transition to the fifteen man code?

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Speaker 17: Ordinarily you'd say no, But then you look at a

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Speaker 17: guy like Alec Angus Crichton and his background.

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Speaker 7: And he has.

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Speaker 17: A rugby union background. Absolutely, he's played rugby union all

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Speaker 17: through his junior footy career and all of that. So

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Speaker 17: I would say that he'd be okay gonna. He's going

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01:01:51,467 --> 01:01:52,707
Speaker 17: to need to mark I think, to get to the

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Speaker 17: very top very quickly. And when I say luck okay

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Speaker 17: being the right team have the right teammates the Warriors have?

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Speaker 17: Are they the right team? I'm not sure to kind

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Speaker 17: of get him up to speed to get him into

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Speaker 17: the Wallaby setup, but interesting to see what position as well.

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Speaker 17: I'm guessing with his size and his skill set, number

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Speaker 17: six maybe or a number eight. I can't see him

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01:02:14,907 --> 01:02:17,147
Speaker 17: playing with Kinsidsada or anything like that because I'm not

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01:02:17,147 --> 01:02:19,467
Speaker 17: sure about his kicking game. But if he needs to

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Speaker 17: kick as the second playerf but yeah, it'd be interesting

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Speaker 17: to see. But I think he'll be able to adapt

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01:02:25,987 --> 01:02:28,307
Speaker 17: quicker than just about any other player that's playing in

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Speaker 17: the league at the moment if he was going to

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Speaker 17: go into a say at four pack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think he's a loose forward. Yeah,

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01:02:34,387 --> 01:02:36,547
Speaker 2: and yeah, that feels like the skill set what he

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01:02:36,547 --> 01:02:38,627
Speaker 2: plays in the second right for the rooster is normally doesn't.

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Speaker 17: He Yeah, yeah, and he's an edge back rower, so

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Speaker 17: I mean that might look at him as a wrecking

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Speaker 17: ball at thirteen if they don't need his kicks, if

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Speaker 17: they don't need someone to kick in that position. But yeah,

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Speaker 17: it'd just be interesting to see because he's if he's

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Speaker 17: one of those loose forwards, obviously he's going to have

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Speaker 17: to be a lad at the breakdown and all those

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Speaker 17: and body positioning and they're the.

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Speaker 7: Little things that rugby league plays to pretty struggle with that.

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Speaker 17: You saw Joseph Swight when he came across and even

1203
01:03:05,027 --> 01:03:08,147
Speaker 17: though he had a backman in rugby union as a kid,

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01:03:08,347 --> 01:03:11,827
Speaker 17: he's playing at the earl level and he was correct

1205
01:03:11,827 --> 01:03:14,147
Speaker 17: me if I'm mistaken, finding that he was going into

1206
01:03:14,147 --> 01:03:17,507
Speaker 17: contact and a little upright sometimes and losing the ball

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01:03:17,547 --> 01:03:20,787
Speaker 17: that way. So yeah, it's a tricky one and it's

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Speaker 17: one that kind of gets lost over here with rugby

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01:03:23,147 --> 01:03:25,547
Speaker 17: league reporters. They think it's just as you will have

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Speaker 17: the superior game, but there's no superiority between the games.

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Speaker 17: It's just different and if you don't get those differences right,

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Speaker 17: you can get exposed.

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Speaker 7: So I think right, and I'll be right in that

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01:03:35,507 --> 01:03:36,867
Speaker 7: regard though, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Now you're right, So the nuances, isn't it.

1216
01:03:38,507 --> 01:03:40,707
Speaker 2: It's me and neither game is superior to the other.

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01:03:40,787 --> 01:03:43,307
Speaker 2: They just take different skill sets and they're for every

1218
01:03:43,307 --> 01:03:46,227
Speaker 2: player who's made a successful switch either direction. There are

1219
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Speaker 2: players who haven't been able to manage it. Big Bash

1220
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Speaker 2: Final tomorrow night out West scorches the Sixers.

1221
01:03:51,987 --> 01:03:52,187
Speaker 6: Just on.

1222
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Speaker 2: The Sixers think won last night against the who about Hurricanes,

1223
01:03:55,507 --> 01:03:57,667
Speaker 2: you know, to earn their place in the final tomorrow night.

1224
01:03:57,987 --> 01:04:02,067
Speaker 2: But Baba Asam, the Pakistan import, has been with them

1225
01:04:02,147 --> 01:04:06,227
Speaker 2: right throughout the Big Bash. Supposedly was contracted until whenever

1226
01:04:06,827 --> 01:04:09,427
Speaker 2: the Sixers were done. But he's been called back to

1227
01:04:09,467 --> 01:04:12,427
Speaker 2: Pakistan for the T twenty World Cup. What about twenty

1228
01:04:12,427 --> 01:04:13,587
Speaker 2: four hours before this game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, all very convenient.

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Speaker 17: I dare say that Bubble was on the verge of

1231
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Speaker 17: being dropped because he just wasn't firing in the last

1232
01:04:21,667 --> 01:04:25,587
Speaker 17: five or six innings. He was barely making an imprint

1233
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Speaker 17: on the schoolcard and making things hard.

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Speaker 7: At the top of the order for the Sixes.

1235
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Speaker 17: Look, he's vastly experienced. I'm sure he behind the scenes.

1236
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Speaker 17: He helped with some of the boys behind the scenes,

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Speaker 17: but it just wasn't working in the latter stages at

1238
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Speaker 17: the tournament, and that there was cause Mark Wall came

1239
01:04:40,107 --> 01:04:42,947
Speaker 17: out on television and said I'd dropp him, which seems

1240
01:04:42,987 --> 01:04:45,667
Speaker 17: ridiculous on place. You've given his international experience in the

1241
01:04:45,667 --> 01:04:48,827
Speaker 17: way that runs he has, but he was serving as

1242
01:04:48,827 --> 01:04:50,067
Speaker 17: a bit of an ankle. And we've seen it a

1243
01:04:50,067 --> 01:04:52,947
Speaker 17: few times in this big Bash that players who are

1244
01:04:52,947 --> 01:04:54,787
Speaker 17: not humming along at the rate they need to be,

1245
01:04:54,827 --> 01:04:56,867
Speaker 17: they've been retired out by their team. They've just been

1246
01:04:56,907 --> 01:04:59,427
Speaker 17: called back to the bench, so they get off essentially. Now,

1247
01:04:59,467 --> 01:05:02,227
Speaker 17: you'd hate to see that happened to someone like Bubba's arm.

1248
01:05:02,307 --> 01:05:03,987
Speaker 17: So maybe this is for the best because I could

1249
01:05:03,987 --> 01:05:06,867
Speaker 17: happened last night the SCG it would have been borderline

1250
01:05:06,907 --> 01:05:09,907
Speaker 17: international incident. So it hasn't gone down too well in Pakistan.

1251
01:05:09,947 --> 01:05:12,147
Speaker 17: I think the six has lost about thirty thousand Instagram

1252
01:05:12,147 --> 01:05:13,827
Speaker 17: followers in one running hit.

1253
01:05:14,227 --> 01:05:15,427
Speaker 7: But that's the way it goes.

1254
01:05:15,467 --> 01:05:17,107
Speaker 17: They won the game, they're through to the final, so

1255
01:05:17,107 --> 01:05:19,987
Speaker 17: they've got the They were in Perth on Tuesday night

1256
01:05:20,027 --> 01:05:21,667
Speaker 17: and they've had to fly back to Sydney to play

1257
01:05:21,707 --> 01:05:23,467
Speaker 17: and then they're going back to Perth. I know one

1258
01:05:23,507 --> 01:05:25,267
Speaker 17: big Tour fast ball of that blood in the ashes

1259
01:05:25,387 --> 01:05:29,107
Speaker 17: is not over the moon about it, but yeah, so

1260
01:05:29,187 --> 01:05:32,387
Speaker 17: be it, because yeah it's so be it. But yeah

1261
01:05:32,427 --> 01:05:35,227
Speaker 17: it's unfortunate, it's a big Starky, but yeah they'll go

1262
01:05:35,267 --> 01:05:37,587
Speaker 17: over there and they like their chances in that time

1263
01:05:37,667 --> 01:05:38,707
Speaker 17: against Perth Scorches.

1264
01:05:38,867 --> 01:05:39,027
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1265
01:05:39,067 --> 01:05:41,467
Speaker 2: We just had Fanellen on the radio earlier the you know,

1266
01:05:41,507 --> 01:05:43,827
Speaker 2: he's been smashing it everywhere for the Scorches and yeah,

1267
01:05:43,867 --> 01:05:46,307
Speaker 2: so I guess Mitchell Stark the Fan Ellen might be

1268
01:05:46,387 --> 01:05:49,067
Speaker 2: quite quite game defining that matchup.

1269
01:05:49,947 --> 01:05:52,307
Speaker 17: Yeah, first over, Starky is going to take the new ball,

1270
01:05:52,347 --> 01:05:55,587
Speaker 17: whether it be first or second over. Yeah, and Fanellen,

1271
01:05:55,667 --> 01:05:58,307
Speaker 17: whenever he's in, where however he's used, he'll be a

1272
01:05:58,427 --> 01:06:01,427
Speaker 17: key part. And I think wherever he is, Stucky will

1273
01:06:01,427 --> 01:06:04,907
Speaker 17: be bowling and think so that will be a defining aspect.

1274
01:06:04,987 --> 01:06:07,387
Speaker 17: But yeah, hopefully it's a good, good deck over there.

1275
01:06:07,427 --> 01:06:10,547
Speaker 17: In person, it's one ad plays one and so who went.

1276
01:06:10,707 --> 01:06:12,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, look forward to that. There's always lots happening on

1277
01:06:12,667 --> 01:06:14,387
Speaker 2: your side of the task man, Adam, thanks for updating

1278
01:06:14,427 --> 01:06:18,587
Speaker 2: us as per usual. Chet again next Saturday one you

1279
01:06:18,627 --> 01:06:20,547
Speaker 2: have a good one to mate, that's Adam Peacock our

1280
01:06:20,547 --> 01:06:25,507
Speaker 2: Australian correspondent joining us around about this time every Saturday afternoon.

1281
01:06:25,507 --> 01:06:28,467
Speaker 2: The Australian Tennis Open continues. We'll obviously keep eyes on

1282
01:06:28,507 --> 01:06:30,907
Speaker 2: that for you. Craig Gabriel with her today and we'll

1283
01:06:30,947 --> 01:06:34,867
Speaker 2: have more from Melbourne Park across the afternoon and tomorrow

1284
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Speaker 2: as well. Carolina Pliskafer is making a bit of a

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Speaker 2: race of it against Madison Keys, the defending champion and

1286
01:06:41,627 --> 01:06:43,867
Speaker 2: the women's singles. Keys won the first set and his

1287
01:06:43,907 --> 01:06:45,707
Speaker 2: fourth three your head on serve and the second, so

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01:06:46,027 --> 01:06:49,987
Speaker 2: Pliskifer is doing her best. The other match I didn't

1289
01:06:49,987 --> 01:06:54,187
Speaker 2: mention before is the men's fifth seed, Lorenzo Mussetti, who

1290
01:06:54,267 --> 01:06:56,227
Speaker 2: kind of flies under the radar, but you don't really

1291
01:06:56,267 --> 01:06:58,307
Speaker 2: hear too much about him. In fact, it was a

1292
01:06:58,307 --> 01:07:00,467
Speaker 2: surprise to me that he was the fifth seed at all.

1293
01:07:00,907 --> 01:07:05,387
Speaker 2: But here he is, and he's up against the Czech

1294
01:07:05,387 --> 01:07:10,147
Speaker 2: Republic player or from Chechia, Thomas Marschach at the moment,

1295
01:07:10,347 --> 01:07:13,387
Speaker 2: and it's five all on serve in the first set.

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Speaker 2: There will keep you, We'll keep you up today seven

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Speaker 2: and a half to two News Talks.

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Speaker 1: EDB analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world.

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Speaker 1: Weekend sport with Jason Pie they call eight hundred and

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01:07:26,307 --> 01:07:28,107
Speaker 1: eighty eight News Talks.

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Speaker 2: MB coming up four minutes to the news at two

1302
01:07:30,907 --> 01:07:34,507
Speaker 2: more out of Mount Montganuby. During our two o'clock news

1303
01:07:34,707 --> 01:07:37,747
Speaker 2: bulletin after two, we'll catch you up on a lot

1304
01:07:37,747 --> 01:07:39,507
Speaker 2: of the stuff that might have escaped your attention in

1305
01:07:39,547 --> 01:07:41,427
Speaker 2: case you missed it. As all ways, straight after the

1306
01:07:41,427 --> 01:07:44,467
Speaker 2: two o'clock news and then we zero went on Auckland

1307
01:07:44,547 --> 01:07:46,587
Speaker 2: FC and broadcasting live from Auckland today, I can tell

1308
01:07:46,587 --> 01:07:48,067
Speaker 2: you it's not much of a day. I'm not sure

1309
01:07:48,107 --> 01:07:50,907
Speaker 2: it's that nice anywhere actually around the country. It certainly

1310
01:07:50,907 --> 01:07:53,867
Speaker 2: has been rather in clement here in Auckland today, which

1311
01:07:53,907 --> 01:07:55,987
Speaker 2: is such a shame for Auckland FC that arrange for

1312
01:07:56,027 --> 01:08:00,147
Speaker 2: the big pausable beach to be installed today. I'm not

1313
01:08:00,147 --> 01:08:02,587
Speaker 2: sure that'll be much fun in the wet and windy

1314
01:08:02,627 --> 01:08:04,467
Speaker 2: conditions which are here. It won't affect the pliers to much.

1315
01:08:04,467 --> 01:08:08,307
Speaker 2: You wouldn't imagine Jesse Randall among Auckland f c's best

1316
01:08:08,867 --> 01:08:11,907
Speaker 2: this season, four goals already, he started every under their matches.

1317
01:08:12,387 --> 01:08:14,947
Speaker 2: I'd imagine would also be in the starting lineup this afternoon.

1318
01:08:15,107 --> 01:08:16,747
Speaker 2: He's going to join us. We'll also get you in

1319
01:08:16,787 --> 01:08:19,107
Speaker 2: a Wanganui. Let's up the weather there is okay for

1320
01:08:19,147 --> 01:08:23,387
Speaker 2: the Cooks Classic, including the latest edition of Sam Ruth v.

1321
01:08:23,867 --> 01:08:33,147
Speaker 2: Sam Tanner Tony Hargood before we knock it on the

1322
01:08:33,187 --> 01:08:35,587
Speaker 2: head at three o'clock. We'll keep eyes on live sport

1323
01:08:35,587 --> 01:08:38,187
Speaker 2: as well. As you just heard from Waino in our

1324
01:08:38,227 --> 01:08:41,227
Speaker 2: sports news, we are going to have some cricket and

1325
01:08:41,307 --> 01:08:44,427
Speaker 2: nape you're actually looking to right there. A bit windy perhaps,

1326
01:08:44,427 --> 01:08:47,947
Speaker 2: but at least it's dry. Super smash Central Hines against

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01:08:47,947 --> 01:08:50,107
Speaker 2: the Sparks. The women's game, the Hinds have won the toss.

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01:08:50,307 --> 01:08:52,867
Speaker 2: They will bat first. That game underway in a couple

1329
01:08:52,947 --> 01:08:55,187
Speaker 2: of minutes time, and of course the Australian Tennis Open,

1330
01:08:55,227 --> 01:08:58,227
Speaker 2: as always, we'll keep eyes on that for you. Madison

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01:08:58,307 --> 01:09:03,387
Speaker 2: Keys safely through to the fourth round six three sixty

1332
01:09:03,387 --> 01:09:07,187
Speaker 2: three over Carolina Pliskathon Jessica Pegola also the sixth seed.

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01:09:07,907 --> 01:09:10,947
Speaker 2: She's through. Yarnick Sinner about to take the court on

1334
01:09:11,147 --> 01:09:14,427
Speaker 2: Rod Lavor Arena, so the number two seed and defending

1335
01:09:14,507 --> 01:09:17,307
Speaker 2: champion of the men's will keep a close eye on

1336
01:09:17,347 --> 01:09:19,587
Speaker 2: what he does. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1337
01:09:19,667 --> 01:09:21,027
Speaker 2: years our number if you want to take part in

1338
01:09:21,067 --> 01:09:23,387
Speaker 2: the show nineteen two ninety two if you would prefer

1339
01:09:23,467 --> 01:09:25,907
Speaker 2: to do that via text message or an email into

1340
01:09:25,947 --> 01:09:29,187
Speaker 2: me Jason at Newstalk SDB dot co dot nz. But

1341
01:09:29,267 --> 01:09:32,827
Speaker 2: as we approach ten past two, let's get you across

1342
01:09:33,347 --> 01:09:35,747
Speaker 2: some of the sporting action that might have escaped your attention,

1343
01:09:36,187 --> 01:09:38,227
Speaker 2: the stuff you may well have missed over the last

1344
01:09:38,227 --> 01:09:43,027
Speaker 2: little while. In case you missed it, another Steve Smith

1345
01:09:43,267 --> 01:09:48,067
Speaker 2: masterclass leading the Sydney Sixers into the Big Bash Grand

1346
01:09:48,067 --> 01:09:52,267
Speaker 2: Final slashed away.

1347
01:09:53,667 --> 01:09:58,347
Speaker 18: Smith brings up, he's fifty and he seems unstoppable in

1348
01:09:58,427 --> 01:09:59,027
Speaker 18: the VBL.

1349
01:09:59,987 --> 01:10:03,147
Speaker 2: So it'll be Sidney Six's or the Sydney Sixers Steve Smith,

1350
01:10:03,187 --> 01:10:07,387
Speaker 2: Mitchell Stark, etc. Up against Finn Allen and the Perch

1351
01:10:07,787 --> 01:10:13,227
Speaker 2: Perth Scorches and tomorrow Night's Big Bash Final. Bryce Cotton

1352
01:10:14,107 --> 01:10:16,907
Speaker 2: drove a dagger through the heart of Breakers fans at

1353
01:10:16,947 --> 01:10:18,307
Speaker 2: Spark Arena last night.

1354
01:10:18,787 --> 01:10:22,827
Speaker 18: Garned by men anger It stepped back, Good night Christ

1355
01:10:22,907 --> 01:10:30,147
Speaker 18: Toutton after death, same story, different Jersey. Wait wait, wait, wait,

1356
01:10:30,267 --> 01:10:33,427
Speaker 18: how many times have we seen it before? And that

1357
01:10:33,707 --> 01:10:37,307
Speaker 18: is game over? What are wins from the adelaide his

1358
01:10:37,507 --> 01:10:40,587
Speaker 18: sixes and how many times have we said, at what

1359
01:10:40,747 --> 01:10:43,267
Speaker 18: a moment for the best imports we ever play in

1360
01:10:43,267 --> 01:10:43,827
Speaker 18: this country?

1361
01:10:44,027 --> 01:10:46,947
Speaker 2: Bryce Cotton, He certainly is playing for the Adelaide thirty

1362
01:10:46,947 --> 01:10:49,867
Speaker 2: sixers these days. And after that game was tied ninety

1363
01:10:49,867 --> 01:10:52,547
Speaker 2: three all at at full time we went to overtime.

1364
01:10:52,587 --> 01:10:55,667
Speaker 2: The Adelaide thirty six is winning at one twelve one

1365
01:10:55,867 --> 01:11:00,107
Speaker 2: ten to the A League and at Newcastle, continuing their

1366
01:11:00,227 --> 01:11:03,307
Speaker 2: conquest of New Zealand teams and the men's comp afore

1367
01:11:03,467 --> 01:11:06,667
Speaker 2: one win at home over the Wellington Phoenix last night.

1368
01:11:07,027 --> 01:11:09,067
Speaker 1: Here's Anoma trying to make events for it for a

1369
01:11:09,107 --> 01:11:10,667
Speaker 1: moment ago, here's.

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Speaker 2: And send the aventure.

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Speaker 18: He's come on the edge, take the three points safe

1372
01:11:22,507 --> 01:11:26,827
Speaker 18: and a short lived Phoenix turnack is snoop janity.

1373
01:11:26,907 --> 01:11:29,307
Speaker 2: End of the night and to the top off a

1374
01:11:29,787 --> 01:11:34,347
Speaker 2: pretty rotten night for Kiwi Sport India crushing the black

1375
01:11:34,387 --> 01:11:37,307
Speaker 2: Caps to take a commanding two nil series lead in

1376
01:11:37,347 --> 01:11:40,707
Speaker 2: their five match T twenty series in India.

1377
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Speaker 22: Then it has been nothing but me him another long

1378
01:11:45,067 --> 01:11:51,467
Speaker 22: one into the stands, two hundred comes up. It's been

1379
01:11:51,507 --> 01:11:58,027
Speaker 22: a runches to remember, a template to follow, nothing shot

1380
01:11:58,147 --> 01:12:00,147
Speaker 22: of mesmerizing.

1381
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Speaker 1: This runches breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic

1382
01:12:03,987 --> 01:12:09,347
Speaker 1: fails wept with Jason Pine News Talk ZENB.

1383
01:12:09,907 --> 01:12:12,667
Speaker 2: It's hope for better things from Kiwi sports teams over

1384
01:12:12,707 --> 01:12:15,667
Speaker 2: the next little while, Starting with Auckland FC this afternoon.

1385
01:12:15,707 --> 01:12:18,307
Speaker 2: They're back in action and back at home for the

1386
01:12:18,307 --> 01:12:20,267
Speaker 2: first time in a week, while haven't played at home

1387
01:12:20,667 --> 01:12:23,547
Speaker 2: since New Year's Day. They will host the Central Coast

1388
01:12:23,627 --> 01:12:27,387
Speaker 2: Mariners from five o'clock this afternoon at go Media Stadium

1389
01:12:27,467 --> 01:12:31,267
Speaker 2: in Auckland. Jesse Randall has started every one of Auckland

1390
01:12:31,307 --> 01:12:35,627
Speaker 2: FC's thirteen matches so far this season and scored four goals.

1391
01:12:36,827 --> 01:12:41,107
Speaker 2: A line of Newcastle shirts along the six chard area.

1392
01:12:41,467 --> 01:12:43,147
Speaker 2: Debreeze leaves it for Randal.

1393
01:12:45,907 --> 01:12:51,747
Speaker 18: And through Jesse Randall the third goal in three games

1394
01:12:52,267 --> 01:12:52,987
Speaker 18: I've been.

1395
01:12:52,987 --> 01:12:56,027
Speaker 2: On level terms. That was on New Year's Day when

1396
01:12:56,067 --> 01:12:59,827
Speaker 2: Newcastle came back to beat Auckland FC three to one.

1397
01:12:59,947 --> 01:13:02,547
Speaker 2: Jesse Randall is with us on match day. Thanks for

1398
01:13:02,587 --> 01:13:05,227
Speaker 2: taking the time, Jesse. Are you come back to New

1399
01:13:05,307 --> 01:13:08,347
Speaker 2: Zealand off the back of a rare away loss, in fact,

1400
01:13:08,347 --> 01:13:11,467
Speaker 2: your first away loss of the season away at Melbourne

1401
01:13:11,507 --> 01:13:15,667
Speaker 2: City last weekend, So in reviewing that game and ahead

1402
01:13:15,667 --> 01:13:18,067
Speaker 2: of this one would have been the main things that

1403
01:13:18,067 --> 01:13:19,347
Speaker 2: that have become apparent.

1404
01:13:20,187 --> 01:13:22,667
Speaker 23: Well, I think the main thing is is we've learned

1405
01:13:22,707 --> 01:13:26,307
Speaker 23: from our mistakes we made in that game and we're

1406
01:13:26,307 --> 01:13:29,387
Speaker 23: trying to rectify them this Weekainst Central Coast and Locke.

1407
01:13:29,587 --> 01:13:35,227
Speaker 23: Melbourne City obviously were a very good team and on

1408
01:13:35,267 --> 01:13:37,867
Speaker 23: the day I think they took their chances and we didn't.

1409
01:13:38,027 --> 01:13:39,307
Speaker 14: And that's football.

1410
01:13:39,427 --> 01:13:41,747
Speaker 23: So we're looking to rectify that this weekend.

1411
01:13:41,907 --> 01:13:44,347
Speaker 2: By quirk of the drawer, it was your fifth away

1412
01:13:44,427 --> 01:13:47,787
Speaker 2: game in six had that just started to take its toll?

1413
01:13:48,147 --> 01:13:49,467
Speaker 2: Or was that not a factor?

1414
01:13:50,307 --> 01:13:50,507
Speaker 11: Oh?

1415
01:13:50,627 --> 01:13:54,667
Speaker 14: I don't think so. I mean we're generally very good away.

1416
01:13:54,707 --> 01:13:57,227
Speaker 23: I think that was the first game we played and

1417
01:13:57,267 --> 01:13:59,187
Speaker 23: lost away from home this year.

1418
01:14:00,547 --> 01:14:02,547
Speaker 14: And look, I mean, yeah, the draw.

1419
01:14:03,987 --> 01:14:08,227
Speaker 23: Wasn't easy for December and January fro but that's no

1420
01:14:08,347 --> 01:14:12,347
Speaker 23: excuse for any game really, and every team plays the

1421
01:14:12,387 --> 01:14:14,067
Speaker 23: same amount of games away from home.

1422
01:14:14,187 --> 01:14:19,107
Speaker 14: So yes, something that we just got to move on from.

1423
01:14:19,307 --> 01:14:21,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, nice to be back home this afternoon. Just

1424
01:14:21,227 --> 01:14:24,547
Speaker 2: before we move on from that game. Your pass for

1425
01:14:24,707 --> 01:14:28,387
Speaker 2: Lockey Brooks goal, I mean it's just a it's a

1426
01:14:28,547 --> 01:14:31,907
Speaker 2: magnificent piece of football. What do you see in your

1427
01:14:31,987 --> 01:14:34,667
Speaker 2: head as you make a split second decision and play

1428
01:14:34,667 --> 01:14:35,507
Speaker 2: a pass like that.

1429
01:14:36,547 --> 01:14:41,387
Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean I knew Locke was running in behind

1430
01:14:41,427 --> 01:14:45,907
Speaker 23: the center back, and look, he made an awesome run

1431
01:14:45,947 --> 01:14:49,027
Speaker 23: and timed it really really well, to which point I

1432
01:14:49,147 --> 01:14:51,747
Speaker 23: was kind of aiming for a certain part of the

1433
01:14:51,747 --> 01:14:54,347
Speaker 23: field and not the players, so I was hoping that

1434
01:14:54,387 --> 01:14:57,467
Speaker 23: it would beat the center back and then it would

1435
01:14:57,467 --> 01:15:01,547
Speaker 23: be well weighted enough to not get the keeper involved

1436
01:15:01,587 --> 01:15:03,467
Speaker 23: and he could come out and collect it.

1437
01:15:03,627 --> 01:15:05,947
Speaker 14: So it ended up being yeah, pretty good.

1438
01:15:06,347 --> 01:15:07,827
Speaker 2: I guess once you get it to a guy like

1439
01:15:07,867 --> 01:15:10,467
Speaker 2: Lockibrook with the four MEA's and you're feeling confident he's

1440
01:15:10,507 --> 01:15:12,147
Speaker 2: going to apply the finishing touch, are you?

1441
01:15:12,747 --> 01:15:15,267
Speaker 23: Yeah, super confident. Yeah, everything he touches at the moment

1442
01:15:15,867 --> 01:15:18,987
Speaker 23: turns into a goal. So I was stoked to see

1443
01:15:19,027 --> 01:15:19,347
Speaker 23: him on the.

1444
01:15:19,387 --> 01:15:21,707
Speaker 2: End of it. It's a cool combination that the two

1445
01:15:21,707 --> 01:15:24,187
Speaker 2: of you have forged, and I guess you can throw

1446
01:15:24,227 --> 01:15:26,707
Speaker 2: Sam Cosgrove into that as well, a couple of guys

1447
01:15:26,907 --> 01:15:29,227
Speaker 2: who weren't there last season. So how hard have you

1448
01:15:29,267 --> 01:15:33,787
Speaker 2: worked personally on forging and attacking synergy with those two

1449
01:15:33,827 --> 01:15:34,667
Speaker 2: guys in particular?

1450
01:15:35,507 --> 01:15:40,747
Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean they're both unbelievable players. I mean, it

1451
01:15:41,387 --> 01:15:44,067
Speaker 23: took us a bit of time I think at the start,

1452
01:15:44,267 --> 01:15:48,707
Speaker 23: but we had a good run in pre season to

1453
01:15:48,747 --> 01:15:53,067
Speaker 23: get to know each other's strengths and how we can

1454
01:15:53,147 --> 01:15:58,227
Speaker 23: best provide for each other. And look, that was on

1455
01:15:58,267 --> 01:16:01,987
Speaker 23: the weekend, something that you know, we work on and

1456
01:16:02,027 --> 01:16:04,787
Speaker 23: training and stuff. So it's good to see those kind

1457
01:16:04,787 --> 01:16:05,747
Speaker 23: of moves coming off.

1458
01:16:06,187 --> 01:16:09,307
Speaker 2: So we moved now to the Central Coast Mariners this afternoon.

1459
01:16:09,347 --> 01:16:11,507
Speaker 2: I guess it goes without saying that you're looking for

1460
01:16:11,547 --> 01:16:15,027
Speaker 2: a bounce back performance, but what have the main focus

1461
01:16:15,147 --> 01:16:17,147
Speaker 2: is been ahead of this one this afternoon.

1462
01:16:18,707 --> 01:16:22,227
Speaker 23: I think it's important just to focus on today's game

1463
01:16:22,947 --> 01:16:26,907
Speaker 23: and leave everything out behind us. And we've had a really,

1464
01:16:26,947 --> 01:16:30,787
Speaker 23: really good week of training which has led us off

1465
01:16:30,827 --> 01:16:35,307
Speaker 23: in good preparation for this game today. And yeah, we

1466
01:16:35,387 --> 01:16:37,467
Speaker 23: just got to focus on ourselves and what we're good at.

1467
01:16:37,467 --> 01:16:41,147
Speaker 23: You know, it's easy to get caught up in everyone

1468
01:16:41,227 --> 01:16:44,427
Speaker 23: else and what they're doing, but I think we've been

1469
01:16:44,467 --> 01:16:47,907
Speaker 23: so good this season and last season. We've got to

1470
01:16:47,907 --> 01:16:50,187
Speaker 23: stick to what works for us, you know, and that's

1471
01:16:50,187 --> 01:16:53,227
Speaker 23: going back to the basics of working hard and focusing

1472
01:16:53,267 --> 01:16:55,987
Speaker 23: on our preparation that we've done this week leading into

1473
01:16:55,987 --> 01:16:57,067
Speaker 23: what Central Coast will brain.

1474
01:16:57,507 --> 01:16:59,147
Speaker 2: We're at the halfway point of the season now, the

1475
01:16:59,187 --> 01:17:02,867
Speaker 2: regular season, that is, with thirteen games played, thirteen to go.

1476
01:17:03,147 --> 01:17:05,387
Speaker 2: Are you in any way able to compare this season

1477
01:17:05,787 --> 01:17:07,787
Speaker 2: to last season? Can you remember how you felt at

1478
01:17:07,787 --> 01:17:10,147
Speaker 2: the halfway point last season? For example?

1479
01:17:10,787 --> 01:17:13,307
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think I can't remember too much. I think

1480
01:17:13,307 --> 01:17:14,467
Speaker 14: it was pretty tight.

1481
01:17:14,267 --> 01:17:20,067
Speaker 23: Between us and Adelaide like throughout this midpoint. But this

1482
01:17:20,067 --> 01:17:22,667
Speaker 23: this season, that's a lot different. I mean, you've got

1483
01:17:22,987 --> 01:17:26,547
Speaker 23: so meant, so many teams, so close to the top,

1484
01:17:26,627 --> 01:17:32,987
Speaker 23: and there's no real room to drop points, and our

1485
01:17:33,027 --> 01:17:37,187
Speaker 23: focus is to get three points today and try and

1486
01:17:36,307 --> 01:17:40,667
Speaker 23: get ourselves further up the table and get ourselves away

1487
01:17:40,667 --> 01:17:41,147
Speaker 23: from the pack.

1488
01:17:41,267 --> 01:17:42,267
Speaker 14: I guess you could say.

1489
01:17:42,147 --> 01:17:44,827
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, and I know stats are only part of

1490
01:17:44,867 --> 01:17:49,747
Speaker 2: an overall picture, but yourself, Lucky and Sam are three

1491
01:17:49,787 --> 01:17:52,787
Speaker 2: of the top five when it comes to taking shots.

1492
01:17:53,347 --> 01:17:55,707
Speaker 2: Is that something that Steve Corriker, a former striker himself,

1493
01:17:55,747 --> 01:17:59,267
Speaker 2: of course, has specifically encouraged you to do, to shoot,

1494
01:17:59,467 --> 01:18:01,027
Speaker 2: you know, at every opportunity.

1495
01:18:01,667 --> 01:18:02,187
Speaker 11: Yeah, he has.

1496
01:18:03,107 --> 01:18:05,467
Speaker 23: He wants us to shoot because you know that's he's

1497
01:18:05,507 --> 01:18:08,227
Speaker 23: to go goals. But in the past, in the past,

1498
01:18:08,227 --> 01:18:10,867
Speaker 23: a little while as well, he's made it clear that

1499
01:18:10,947 --> 01:18:14,827
Speaker 23: you know, it's not always about shooting in every situation.

1500
01:18:15,947 --> 01:18:19,787
Speaker 23: Sometimes there's better opportunities to play the ball to someone

1501
01:18:19,827 --> 01:18:22,227
Speaker 23: in a better position. And yeah, I think it's a

1502
01:18:22,227 --> 01:18:25,267
Speaker 23: good stat that we've got, you know, us through up

1503
01:18:25,307 --> 01:18:26,747
Speaker 23: there with some of the most shots. That means we're

1504
01:18:26,747 --> 01:18:30,187
Speaker 23: getting ourselves in real good positions at the front of

1505
01:18:30,227 --> 01:18:32,507
Speaker 23: the field. So I think now it's just about being

1506
01:18:32,507 --> 01:18:35,107
Speaker 23: more clinical and putting those chances away.

1507
01:18:35,387 --> 01:18:36,947
Speaker 2: And I know your focus is on the A League,

1508
01:18:36,947 --> 01:18:39,067
Speaker 2: but in the week past we've had confirmation of the

1509
01:18:39,427 --> 01:18:43,227
Speaker 2: two All Whites fixtures for March home games, you know

1510
01:18:43,267 --> 01:18:46,147
Speaker 2: at Eden Park, so just across town from from go

1511
01:18:46,307 --> 01:18:48,987
Speaker 2: Media where Auckland f C play their home games. You know,

1512
01:18:49,027 --> 01:18:50,627
Speaker 2: have you thought a little bit about about, you know,

1513
01:18:50,707 --> 01:18:52,947
Speaker 2: wanting to be a part of that squad and you know,

1514
01:18:53,067 --> 01:18:55,147
Speaker 2: be back in that international frame with the World Cup

1515
01:18:55,187 --> 01:18:56,427
Speaker 2: now on the horizon.

1516
01:18:56,707 --> 01:18:58,267
Speaker 14: Yeah, for sure, I do. I'm for sure I want

1517
01:18:58,307 --> 01:18:58,947
Speaker 14: to be involved.

1518
01:18:59,947 --> 01:19:01,707
Speaker 23: I think what's going to get me there is just

1519
01:19:01,787 --> 01:19:04,387
Speaker 23: putting in good performances we can week out with Auckland

1520
01:19:04,947 --> 01:19:11,627
Speaker 23: and then those kind of things will happen and look.

1521
01:19:12,427 --> 01:19:14,787
Speaker 14: Like I just said, I've just got to stay stay

1522
01:19:14,827 --> 01:19:15,427
Speaker 14: focused on.

1523
01:19:16,067 --> 01:19:19,827
Speaker 23: My footy right now and the stuff with Auckland, which

1524
01:19:19,867 --> 01:19:21,667
Speaker 23: is extremely important.

1525
01:19:21,747 --> 01:19:23,267
Speaker 14: So that's what's going to get me there.

1526
01:19:23,347 --> 01:19:24,907
Speaker 2: Well, you'll get your next chance in a few hours

1527
01:19:24,947 --> 01:19:26,747
Speaker 2: from now, Jesse, thanks for chatting today, mate. All the

1528
01:19:26,787 --> 01:19:29,747
Speaker 2: best against the Mariners this afternoon. Cheers, thanks so much,

1529
01:19:30,187 --> 01:19:33,187
Speaker 2: thank you, Jesse. Jesse randall there out of Auckland FC.

1530
01:19:33,347 --> 01:19:35,707
Speaker 2: So five o'clock kick off this afternoon. It's really hard

1531
01:19:35,707 --> 01:19:37,347
Speaker 2: to tell in Auckland what the weather is because I

1532
01:19:37,347 --> 01:19:38,947
Speaker 2: look out there now and it's looking a bit brighter.

1533
01:19:39,387 --> 01:19:41,027
Speaker 2: They's that there about Auckland. And if you don't like

1534
01:19:41,067 --> 01:19:42,707
Speaker 2: the weather, just wait an hour and you'll you'll get

1535
01:19:42,707 --> 01:19:45,667
Speaker 2: something different. Five o'clock this afternoon is kick off time.

1536
01:19:45,867 --> 01:19:50,307
Speaker 2: So last night, yeah, the Newcastle Jets welcomed Wellington Phoenix

1537
01:19:50,347 --> 01:19:53,747
Speaker 2: to McDonald jones Stadium in the Hunter Valley. And this

1538
01:19:53,787 --> 01:19:56,827
Speaker 2: is a Newcastle team that is playing brilliantly right now.

1539
01:19:56,907 --> 01:19:59,307
Speaker 2: Last night they did a number on the Phoenix, winning

1540
01:19:59,387 --> 01:20:02,627
Speaker 2: four to one. It was their fourth straight win and

1541
01:20:02,707 --> 01:20:05,347
Speaker 2: takes them up level on points with Auckland f C

1542
01:20:05,587 --> 01:20:07,107
Speaker 2: at the top of the table. In fact, if they's

1543
01:20:07,107 --> 01:20:10,707
Speaker 2: scored one more goal, that'd be top on goal difference,

1544
01:20:10,907 --> 01:20:14,067
Speaker 2: albeit having played one further game, so Aukland FC with

1545
01:20:14,107 --> 01:20:17,067
Speaker 2: the chance to extend the lead back out to three.

1546
01:20:17,387 --> 01:20:21,387
Speaker 2: For Wellington Phoenix they stay in eighth position through fourteen matches.

1547
01:20:22,187 --> 01:20:24,707
Speaker 2: They'll lick their wounds and come home for a pretty

1548
01:20:25,147 --> 01:20:28,947
Speaker 2: significant match on Friday. They take on Melbourne City this

1549
01:20:29,027 --> 01:20:33,627
Speaker 2: coming Friday, that is January the thirtieth. It is their

1550
01:20:33,747 --> 01:20:38,147
Speaker 2: five hundredth A League men's match. Wellington Phoenix came into

1551
01:20:38,147 --> 01:20:41,067
Speaker 2: being in two thousand and seven, played their first match

1552
01:20:41,067 --> 01:20:44,227
Speaker 2: in August of that year, and this coming Friday at

1553
01:20:44,227 --> 01:20:47,267
Speaker 2: Sky Stadium it will be their five hundredth A League

1554
01:20:47,307 --> 01:20:49,667
Speaker 2: men's match, so a special occasion, and I know there's

1555
01:20:49,667 --> 01:20:53,227
Speaker 2: a bit planned around the recognition of the four hundred

1556
01:20:53,267 --> 01:20:55,707
Speaker 2: and ninety nine matches up to this point, and hopefully

1557
01:20:55,747 --> 01:20:58,267
Speaker 2: game number five hundred against Melbourne victory Friday night in

1558
01:20:58,307 --> 01:21:01,867
Speaker 2: the Capitol will be fitting of the occasion in terms

1559
01:21:01,907 --> 01:21:05,387
Speaker 2: of the current crop. Also mentioned to Jesse Randall there

1560
01:21:05,387 --> 01:21:07,907
Speaker 2: about the All Whites. Of course, we all know there's

1561
01:21:07,947 --> 01:21:10,707
Speaker 2: a Football World Cup coming up this year and during

1562
01:21:10,707 --> 01:21:14,187
Speaker 2: the week New Zealand Football confirmed the opponents for the

1563
01:21:14,227 --> 01:21:17,747
Speaker 2: All Whites for the FIFA series, which is the it's

1564
01:21:17,787 --> 01:21:19,867
Speaker 2: a new innovation from FIFA, played in all sorts of

1565
01:21:19,867 --> 01:21:22,267
Speaker 2: countries around the world. But what effectively it is for

1566
01:21:22,507 --> 01:21:25,147
Speaker 2: New Zealand is their final warm up before they head

1567
01:21:25,147 --> 01:21:27,067
Speaker 2: off to the World Cup, their final couple of matches

1568
01:21:27,067 --> 01:21:31,027
Speaker 2: and a chance to thank and say farewell to New

1569
01:21:31,107 --> 01:21:34,027
Speaker 2: Zealand football fans. These matches will happen at the back

1570
01:21:34,107 --> 01:21:37,027
Speaker 2: end of March, both of them in Auckland, both of

1571
01:21:37,027 --> 01:21:40,147
Speaker 2: them at Eden Park, and they're part of double headers.

1572
01:21:40,187 --> 01:21:43,507
Speaker 2: There are three teams coming to New Zealand, Finland, Chile

1573
01:21:44,067 --> 01:21:47,227
Speaker 2: and Cape Verd and the four of them will play

1574
01:21:47,267 --> 01:21:50,627
Speaker 2: in this little mini series. So New Zealand will play

1575
01:21:50,787 --> 01:21:54,907
Speaker 2: Finland on the night of Friday, March twenty seven at

1576
01:21:55,027 --> 01:21:58,027
Speaker 2: Eden Park a seven o'clock kickoff, and then on the

1577
01:21:58,107 --> 01:22:01,187
Speaker 2: night of Monday, March thirty, they will face Chile again

1578
01:22:01,187 --> 01:22:04,347
Speaker 2: at Eden Park, again at seven o'clock. Double headers of course,

1579
01:22:04,707 --> 01:22:07,587
Speaker 2: Chile against Cape Verd four o'clock on the Friday and

1580
01:22:07,747 --> 01:22:11,027
Speaker 2: Finland against Cape Verd at four o'clock on the Monday.

1581
01:22:11,307 --> 01:22:13,947
Speaker 2: So I know tickets are available for those matches right now.

1582
01:22:13,947 --> 01:22:16,907
Speaker 2: They're hoping for big crowds to turn up to say

1583
01:22:16,947 --> 01:22:20,387
Speaker 2: farewell to the All Whites, and Darren Basley, no doubt

1584
01:22:20,467 --> 01:22:23,267
Speaker 2: will take it as a last opportunity to have a

1585
01:22:23,267 --> 01:22:26,067
Speaker 2: look at some players before he names his twenty six

1586
01:22:26,107 --> 01:22:28,147
Speaker 2: man squad to head off to the World Cup. Those

1587
01:22:28,187 --> 01:22:33,507
Speaker 2: matches in June of this year. So have I've got

1588
01:22:33,507 --> 01:22:38,187
Speaker 2: a couple of bits of correspondence shortly but some live

1589
01:22:38,267 --> 01:22:42,027
Speaker 2: sport to update you one as well. Super Smash in Napier.

1590
01:22:42,547 --> 01:22:46,307
Speaker 2: The Central Hines have won the toss and have elected

1591
01:22:46,347 --> 01:22:49,147
Speaker 2: to bat first against the Sparks. I believe they might

1592
01:22:49,147 --> 01:22:52,267
Speaker 2: have just lost their first wicked. I'll get confirmation of

1593
01:22:52,307 --> 01:22:55,307
Speaker 2: that in the second over. In fact, the fourth over

1594
01:22:55,427 --> 01:22:58,027
Speaker 2: they are fifteen for one, fifteen for one, the Central

1595
01:22:58,067 --> 01:23:00,307
Speaker 2: Hins batting first against the Sparks, and looking up on

1596
01:23:00,347 --> 01:23:02,787
Speaker 2: the screen here I can see Yarnick Sinner making his

1597
01:23:02,867 --> 01:23:05,867
Speaker 2: way out onto rod Lavor Arena, where the second seed

1598
01:23:05,867 --> 01:23:08,907
Speaker 2: in the in the men's singles at the Australian Tennis

1599
01:23:08,907 --> 01:23:15,587
Speaker 2: Open will shortly take on the unseated American Spizzetti Elliott

1600
01:23:15,867 --> 01:23:20,067
Speaker 2: sposit I got that right, Spasiti. I know that Craig

1601
01:23:20,107 --> 01:23:23,307
Speaker 2: Gabriel an hour ago probably got the pronunciation a lot better,

1602
01:23:23,347 --> 01:23:27,107
Speaker 2: and he suggested that maybe Cinner might make spaghetti out

1603
01:23:27,107 --> 01:23:30,827
Speaker 2: of spasity. We'll see, We'll see what happens. Jarnickson has

1604
01:23:30,867 --> 01:23:34,187
Speaker 2: been playing tremendous tennis. I'm not a huge tennis fan.

1605
01:23:34,227 --> 01:23:35,587
Speaker 2: I think I've said this on the show before, but

1606
01:23:35,827 --> 01:23:37,587
Speaker 2: I was watching Allix Sinner during the week and he's

1607
01:23:37,667 --> 01:23:38,427
Speaker 2: just imperious.

1608
01:23:38,427 --> 01:23:38,667
Speaker 6: Man.

1609
01:23:38,907 --> 01:23:42,627
Speaker 2: He's just such a smooth and elegant player, a little

1610
01:23:42,627 --> 01:23:45,347
Speaker 2: bit like Federer in that way, whereas Carlos Alcarez tends

1611
01:23:45,347 --> 01:23:48,587
Speaker 2: to be a bit more power driven. You know, he's

1612
01:23:49,027 --> 01:23:51,787
Speaker 2: probably a bigger guy who uses power a lot more.

1613
01:23:51,787 --> 01:23:54,267
Speaker 2: But yeah, Sinner and Alcorize, well, they seem like they're

1614
01:23:54,307 --> 01:23:57,267
Speaker 2: on a collision course for another meeting in a Grand

1615
01:23:57,267 --> 01:24:02,227
Speaker 2: Slam final. But having said that, apart from ali Asim

1616
01:24:02,267 --> 01:24:06,067
Speaker 2: Osier Aliassim who Felix Osier Aliasim who are retired in

1617
01:24:06,067 --> 01:24:08,987
Speaker 2: the food round he was the seventh seed, every other

1618
01:24:09,067 --> 01:24:12,507
Speaker 2: seed from one through twelve is still in at this point,

1619
01:24:12,827 --> 01:24:15,147
Speaker 2: so we could get some real heavyweight matchups in the

1620
01:24:15,187 --> 01:24:18,627
Speaker 2: second week. You know, upsets have been very few and

1621
01:24:18,667 --> 01:24:23,947
Speaker 2: far between at this year's Australian Tennis Open. Two twenty four.

1622
01:24:24,027 --> 01:24:25,747
Speaker 2: Let's take a break and then see what the weather's

1623
01:24:25,867 --> 01:24:29,187
Speaker 2: like in Wanganui. And not just the weather, but what's

1624
01:24:29,787 --> 01:24:35,147
Speaker 2: the anticipation around Another version, another edition of Sam v

1625
01:24:35,267 --> 01:24:38,907
Speaker 2: Sam over middle distance running, Nick Buley going to join us,

1626
01:24:38,947 --> 01:24:42,587
Speaker 2: next to preview Tonight's Cook's Classic and fonging it.

1627
01:24:43,267 --> 01:24:47,307
Speaker 1: The biggest season sports are on Weekend Sports with Jason

1628
01:24:47,347 --> 01:24:52,147
Speaker 1: Pain and Gjjubnomes New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Dogs.

1629
01:24:52,147 --> 01:24:55,027
Speaker 2: They'd be coming up quarter to three Saturday afternoon. You

1630
01:24:55,027 --> 01:24:57,467
Speaker 2: may well be aware of the New Zealand Rugby Foundation.

1631
01:24:57,627 --> 01:25:01,187
Speaker 2: They provide holistic support to players whose lives are changed

1632
01:25:01,587 --> 01:25:05,987
Speaker 2: by serious injury. They run fundraisers wonderful dinners around the place.

1633
01:25:06,027 --> 01:25:08,987
Speaker 2: But they're there are other rather more unique ways of

1634
01:25:09,427 --> 01:25:13,347
Speaker 2: raising money and raising awareness of the New Zealand Rugby Foundation,

1635
01:25:13,467 --> 01:25:16,507
Speaker 2: including what's being done right now by former What Did

1636
01:25:16,587 --> 01:25:20,907
Speaker 2: Up a Bush Rugby CEO Tony Hargood, who is currently

1637
01:25:21,507 --> 01:25:23,947
Speaker 2: walking the length of the country. Surely there must be

1638
01:25:23,987 --> 01:25:25,667
Speaker 2: an easier way, Tony.

1639
01:25:26,907 --> 01:25:32,107
Speaker 3: Ah, Look, I'm sure there is, but I think it's

1640
01:25:32,147 --> 01:25:34,627
Speaker 3: just all part of a bit of fun and a

1641
01:25:34,627 --> 01:25:37,587
Speaker 3: bit of journey and a good way to see the country.

1642
01:25:37,707 --> 01:25:39,747
Speaker 2: I bet it is. Tell us how the idea came about,

1643
01:25:39,747 --> 01:25:41,667
Speaker 2: How did the did you come up with the idea?

1644
01:25:41,787 --> 01:25:44,347
Speaker 2: Did others sort of suggest it to you? How how

1645
01:25:44,387 --> 01:25:45,947
Speaker 2: did this idea come about?

1646
01:25:46,427 --> 01:25:49,347
Speaker 3: I think the suggestions where from everyone was don't do it.

1647
01:25:53,107 --> 01:25:56,987
Speaker 3: H Look, look, I always wanted to walk New Zealand

1648
01:25:57,147 --> 01:26:01,307
Speaker 3: And and you know, I've been involved with rugby for

1649
01:26:01,387 --> 01:26:06,947
Speaker 3: quite a few decades and the Rugby Foundation is pretty special,

1650
01:26:07,227 --> 01:26:09,187
Speaker 3: you know for me, and I think as a CEO

1651
01:26:09,587 --> 01:26:14,627
Speaker 3: of New Zealand a rugby union, as a white apple bosch,

1652
01:26:15,347 --> 01:26:19,067
Speaker 3: you actually see that whole benefit up on what happens there.

1653
01:26:19,187 --> 01:26:20,107
Speaker 15: So I.

1654
01:26:21,587 --> 01:26:23,827
Speaker 3: Wanted to do that. I wanted to promote it. I

1655
01:26:23,907 --> 01:26:28,067
Speaker 3: talked to Elisa and the team now and I thought, well,

1656
01:26:28,187 --> 01:26:30,547
Speaker 3: why don't we just also kick a goal at every

1657
01:26:30,587 --> 01:26:35,387
Speaker 3: provincial union at the same time? And yeah, so it

1658
01:26:35,507 --> 01:26:39,227
Speaker 3: all came together and started in September.

1659
01:26:39,347 --> 01:26:39,507
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1660
01:26:39,507 --> 01:26:41,587
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, so you started in September. Where

1661
01:26:41,627 --> 01:26:44,107
Speaker 2: did you start and where have you been up to

1662
01:26:44,147 --> 01:26:44,867
Speaker 2: this point?

1663
01:26:45,547 --> 01:26:50,027
Speaker 3: Yes? So I started September twenty fifth. First day, was

1664
01:26:50,107 --> 01:26:53,027
Speaker 3: bluffed to in the cargo and kick the first goal

1665
01:26:53,267 --> 01:26:58,267
Speaker 3: at halftime between South lond and Tesman, and then went

1666
01:26:58,387 --> 01:27:02,627
Speaker 3: up to la where do we go Dunedin and then

1667
01:27:02,747 --> 01:27:06,147
Speaker 3: up through North Otago through the other Hartling unions up

1668
01:27:06,147 --> 01:27:10,827
Speaker 3: to the NBC final and then over to the coast,

1669
01:27:11,787 --> 01:27:19,187
Speaker 3: West Coast, Buller and Nelson or Tatman and in ben

1670
01:27:19,267 --> 01:27:23,427
Speaker 3: up to Willington, across to the war Rappa, through the

1671
01:27:23,467 --> 01:27:27,787
Speaker 3: form Taranaki and King Country, went home for a little

1672
01:27:27,787 --> 01:27:31,107
Speaker 3: bit and then went up through Napier so Hawkes Bay

1673
01:27:31,267 --> 01:27:35,667
Speaker 3: where were Hawks Bay, Poverty Bay and Rotoria and East

1674
01:27:35,747 --> 01:27:38,867
Speaker 3: Coast And now I'm in Bay Plenty.

1675
01:27:38,867 --> 01:27:40,827
Speaker 2: All right, so you'll keep heading up upwards. So what

1676
01:27:41,107 --> 01:27:43,067
Speaker 2: is Northland's the Furthest North?

1677
01:27:43,147 --> 01:27:44,387
Speaker 11: Is it? Yeah?

1678
01:27:44,467 --> 01:27:47,147
Speaker 3: So north Old it'll be the Furthest North for me

1679
01:27:47,267 --> 01:27:51,107
Speaker 3: and that'll be a kick number twenty three, I think

1680
01:27:51,187 --> 01:27:53,507
Speaker 3: twenty two. And then I'm going to come back down

1681
01:27:53,507 --> 01:27:56,947
Speaker 3: and I'm doing man Or two Rpaneur Capitty and then

1682
01:27:57,107 --> 01:28:00,227
Speaker 3: finishing off from Wellington on April the eleventh.

1683
01:28:00,467 --> 01:28:02,427
Speaker 2: And how's the kicks gone? Have you have you?

1684
01:28:02,507 --> 01:28:02,827
Speaker 19: Have you?

1685
01:28:03,387 --> 01:28:03,667
Speaker 11: Have you?

1686
01:28:04,427 --> 01:28:08,067
Speaker 2: Have you successfully got through the post each time? Tony?

1687
01:28:08,907 --> 01:28:13,107
Speaker 3: So sixteen kicks, so fifteen of them through first time

1688
01:28:13,867 --> 01:28:15,747
Speaker 3: and I had a little bit of disaster on the

1689
01:28:17,387 --> 01:28:20,507
Speaker 3: on the east cast there but got on the second attempt,

1690
01:28:20,507 --> 01:28:26,307
Speaker 3: so still still there and so I think it's ninety

1691
01:28:26,307 --> 01:28:28,747
Speaker 3: four percent rat at the moment.

1692
01:28:28,827 --> 01:28:29,867
Speaker 4: So there, Well, I.

1693
01:28:29,787 --> 01:28:32,947
Speaker 2: Think most elite kickers have taken that. Would they take

1694
01:28:33,227 --> 01:28:35,787
Speaker 2: any day of the week, any other week?

1695
01:28:36,667 --> 01:28:37,067
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1696
01:28:38,227 --> 01:28:40,427
Speaker 2: No, no, no. So so you're when you walk, you

1697
01:28:40,547 --> 01:28:43,947
Speaker 2: actually are walking the whole way? Is that right? What

1698
01:28:44,027 --> 01:28:46,227
Speaker 2: are you? Are you walking some of the way? What's

1699
01:28:46,267 --> 01:28:48,667
Speaker 2: the how many? How many CAZy in a clock app.

1700
01:28:49,107 --> 01:28:51,427
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've done fifteen hundred kilometers at the moment.

1701
01:28:51,907 --> 01:28:58,027
Speaker 3: I so I walked from the Cargo through or Bluff

1702
01:28:58,067 --> 01:29:04,187
Speaker 3: through to Rolston across each and then when I got

1703
01:29:04,187 --> 01:29:05,627
Speaker 3: over to the West coast, so I was I was

1704
01:29:05,787 --> 01:29:07,387
Speaker 3: quite reach you meant to? I said, R, I've got

1705
01:29:07,427 --> 01:29:09,227
Speaker 3: to do this to this we're not going over to

1706
01:29:09,227 --> 01:29:12,387
Speaker 3: the west coast. People just showed me all the dock

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01:29:12,467 --> 01:29:14,747
Speaker 3: tracks and the different tracks and the old ghost road,

1708
01:29:15,907 --> 01:29:18,227
Speaker 3: and I was missing most of the country because part

1709
01:29:18,227 --> 01:29:20,707
Speaker 3: of this is I wanted to see the country. So

1710
01:29:21,027 --> 01:29:23,707
Speaker 3: now I'm taking every profancial union and I'm looking at

1711
01:29:23,747 --> 01:29:27,907
Speaker 3: all these different walks around there. So just depending where

1712
01:29:27,947 --> 01:29:32,707
Speaker 3: I'll add all these different dock walks and you know,

1713
01:29:32,987 --> 01:29:35,667
Speaker 3: take a little bit off the road and not cover

1714
01:29:35,707 --> 01:29:37,987
Speaker 3: that because there are some dangerous pots and myself and

1715
01:29:38,027 --> 01:29:41,147
Speaker 3: the safety plan is basically I'm not here to kill myself.

1716
01:29:41,187 --> 01:29:45,547
Speaker 3: So and you know, I've covered off a hea feed track,

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01:29:45,987 --> 01:29:49,987
Speaker 3: some beautiful walks up through the East coast Mahe Peninsula,

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01:29:50,067 --> 01:29:52,707
Speaker 3: you know, places that you drive past and you see

1719
01:29:52,707 --> 01:29:53,947
Speaker 3: the sign but you never go down.

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01:29:54,547 --> 01:29:54,987
Speaker 2: Amazing.

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01:29:55,387 --> 01:29:58,307
Speaker 3: So yeah, and there's Brugfey people all over the place.

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01:29:58,347 --> 01:30:01,587
Speaker 2: So it's just incredible, Yeah, incredible what you're doing, Tony,

1723
01:30:01,627 --> 01:30:03,227
Speaker 2: and what you've done up till now and what you'll

1724
01:30:03,467 --> 01:30:05,347
Speaker 2: continue to do. I know you've got a Facebook page,

1725
01:30:05,387 --> 01:30:08,347
Speaker 2: A Brief walk through New Zealand Rugby is what it's called,

1726
01:30:08,387 --> 01:30:10,547
Speaker 2: so people can follow you on there. And obviously you're

1727
01:30:10,587 --> 01:30:12,547
Speaker 2: raising money as well for the New Zealand Rugby Foundation

1728
01:30:12,667 --> 01:30:15,747
Speaker 2: and awareness. You clearly got a deep connection to it

1729
01:30:15,787 --> 01:30:18,107
Speaker 2: as well and the great work that the foundation does.

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01:30:18,707 --> 01:30:20,587
Speaker 3: Yeah, no thanks, And here's a book at the end

1731
01:30:20,627 --> 01:30:24,787
Speaker 3: of it as well, so yeah, so yeah, so there'll

1732
01:30:24,787 --> 01:30:27,147
Speaker 3: be a favorite. So the book is actually called A

1733
01:30:27,187 --> 01:30:29,907
Speaker 3: Brief walk through the History of New Zealand Rugby. So

1734
01:30:31,067 --> 01:30:33,787
Speaker 3: and I'll just talk about the wonderful people in our

1735
01:30:33,867 --> 01:30:35,267
Speaker 3: rugby in our community game.

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01:30:35,867 --> 01:30:38,307
Speaker 2: Go well, Tony, thanks for joining us, mate, marvelous.

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01:30:37,987 --> 01:30:39,587
Speaker 5: What you're doing well I think.

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01:30:39,667 --> 01:30:40,667
Speaker 3: Thanks Jason all the.

1739
01:30:40,587 --> 01:30:43,147
Speaker 2: Best mate, Tony Hargood, former Whited Up of Bush Rugby

1740
01:30:43,227 --> 01:30:46,547
Speaker 2: CEO and the Walker of New Zealand. A Brief Walk

1741
01:30:46,587 --> 01:30:48,947
Speaker 2: through New Zealand Rugby is the Facebook page that's probably

1742
01:30:48,947 --> 01:30:51,387
Speaker 2: the best place to follow. Tony's putting lots of photos

1743
01:30:51,387 --> 01:30:53,787
Speaker 2: and stuff up there. He can follow his progress and

1744
01:30:53,867 --> 01:30:55,467
Speaker 2: have a look back at what he's done up till

1745
01:30:55,467 --> 01:30:57,987
Speaker 2: now links into the New Zealand Rugby Foundation and the

1746
01:30:57,987 --> 01:31:00,227
Speaker 2: wonderful work that they do. They, as I say, have

1747
01:31:00,267 --> 01:31:04,507
Speaker 2: fundraising events and this is just a little addition to

1748
01:31:04,547 --> 01:31:08,707
Speaker 2: that with Tony's war through New Zealand. Brilliant stuff. What

1749
01:31:08,707 --> 01:31:10,507
Speaker 2: do you say, I don't want to kill myself. I

1750
01:31:10,547 --> 01:31:13,507
Speaker 2: think it's a pretty good strategy for any fundraising endeavor.

1751
01:31:13,707 --> 01:31:14,867
Speaker 2: Nine to three News Talks HEB.

1752
01:31:15,787 --> 01:31:18,067
Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

1753
01:31:18,227 --> 01:31:23,507
Speaker 1: on ten eighty Weekends fort with Jason Hine News Talks HEB.

1754
01:31:23,787 --> 01:31:25,707
Speaker 2: Coming up six to three JT on text that's a

1755
01:31:25,707 --> 01:31:28,027
Speaker 2: great health and safety planned one oh one I'm not

1756
01:31:28,067 --> 01:31:31,867
Speaker 2: here to kill myself. It's a brilliant strategy from Tony

1757
01:31:31,867 --> 01:31:34,907
Speaker 2: Hargood as he undertakes his fundraising good stuff JT. That's

1758
01:31:34,987 --> 01:31:37,947
Speaker 2: us for today. Tim Beveridge is in the hot set

1759
01:31:37,987 --> 01:31:40,587
Speaker 2: after three o'clock with the Saturday edition of the Weekend Collective.

1760
01:31:40,747 --> 01:31:42,947
Speaker 2: Quick look ahead to tomorrow on the show. Don't forget

1761
01:31:43,027 --> 01:31:45,467
Speaker 2: Eddie Jones after midday what has he made of the

1762
01:31:45,507 --> 01:31:49,027
Speaker 2: whole Scott robertson thing, looking forward to hearing Eddie's views

1763
01:31:49,107 --> 01:31:51,947
Speaker 2: and your reaction to that. And Brendon McCullum, how much

1764
01:31:52,067 --> 01:31:55,147
Speaker 2: danger is he in of losing his job as England

1765
01:31:55,187 --> 01:31:56,947
Speaker 2: cricket coach. We'll get you to the UK on that

1766
01:31:57,107 --> 01:31:59,867
Speaker 2: and lots more besides, thanks for listening and huge thanks

1767
01:31:59,867 --> 01:32:02,547
Speaker 2: to Anna McDonald for navigating things today. I'm not going

1768
01:32:02,587 --> 01:32:04,187
Speaker 2: to take you behind the scenes, but it has been

1769
01:32:04,267 --> 01:32:07,547
Speaker 2: chaos today for various reasons. We don't have time to explain.

1770
01:32:07,587 --> 01:32:10,147
Speaker 2: So what's our exit song today? Smooth Sailing has only

1771
01:32:10,147 --> 01:32:14,787
Speaker 2: ever been smooth sailing? The Proclaimers three thousand kilometers. Tony

1772
01:32:14,787 --> 01:32:18,547
Speaker 2: Hargod reckons he's going to walk. That's one thousand, eight

1773
01:32:18,627 --> 01:32:21,587
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty four miles, which even the Proclaimers will

1774
01:32:21,587 --> 01:32:25,947
Speaker 2: be quite quite impressed by, so you know they need

1775
01:32:25,987 --> 01:32:28,427
Speaker 2: her up there game, I think indeed, I'm not sure

1776
01:32:28,427 --> 01:32:32,107
Speaker 2: that the words for them the song as well. Sixty

1777
01:32:32,147 --> 01:32:33,307
Speaker 2: four miles, well.

1778
01:32:33,067 --> 01:32:35,307
Speaker 16: It's one of that need to do nine hundred and

1779
01:32:35,347 --> 01:32:37,467
Speaker 16: thirty two miles and then nine hundred and thirty two

1780
01:32:37,507 --> 01:32:40,467
Speaker 16: more that's they walk a thousand miles. It's one of

1781
01:32:40,467 --> 01:32:44,227
Speaker 16: the most misunderstood songs, I think as well, So shall

1782
01:32:44,227 --> 01:32:47,627
Speaker 16: we listen to it? I could keep talking over at Piney.

1783
01:32:47,667 --> 01:32:48,667
Speaker 16: Good work today, mate.

1784
01:32:48,747 --> 01:32:49,307
Speaker 5: See you tomorrow.

1785
01:32:49,307 --> 01:32:59,187
Speaker 2: Folks going to the man who've called along and where

1786
01:32:59,467 --> 01:33:01,987
Speaker 2: come hohol.

1787
01:33:01,067 --> 01:33:04,467
Speaker 24: Handle, I'm going to be combuck.

1788
01:33:04,747 --> 01:33:07,947
Speaker 11: We do, big man, he's coming.

1789
01:33:09,467 --> 01:33:19,747
Speaker 24: You want five month miles now, well, five months more

1790
01:33:20,187 --> 01:33:25,467
Speaker 24: the things that man wants and miles that's fall.

1791
01:33:25,427 --> 01:34:02,387
Speaker 15: That well, five month dread mile love five.

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01:34:03,907 --> 01:34:23,507
Speaker 1: That is that fa For more from Weekend Sport with

1793
01:34:23,707 --> 01:34:27,107
Speaker 1: Jason Fine, listen live to news Talks at b weekends

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