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Speaker 1: My long held suspicion oft produced for the Prime Minister

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday mornings, that the public service might well be

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Speaker 1: working against the government seems to have been laid bare

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Speaker 1: on the Deloitte report into the failed health system. So

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Speaker 1: as you'll be aware, we're going back to a board

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Speaker 1: from the commissioner. But what the report seems to indicate

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Speaker 1: is the board or commissioner is not really the issue.

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Speaker 1: The issue is in competence. The fact Aboard was replaced

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Speaker 1: is not about whether it's a board. It's about the

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Speaker 1: fact they never had control of the money. They didn't

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Speaker 1: have a plan. They were hopeless, and hopelessness is hopelessness,

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Speaker 1: no matter what the shape of it is. Structurally, more

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Speaker 1: worryingly is the reportage that tells us what they wanted

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Speaker 1: wasn't adhered to. It wasn't listened to, it wasn't acted on. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: in theory, a good governance structure would see this particular

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Speaker 1: pushback in that go and fix it. But you had

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Speaker 1: in competence and rejection dovetailing together, the end result being

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Speaker 1: the chaos that ensued. Now, the report infers the government

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Speaker 1: would have been better sticking with twenty health boards for

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Speaker 1: goodness sake. Now my argument, if you've been listening to

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Speaker 1: the program for a few years, my argument was always

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Speaker 1: in a country the size I reckon, we needed about

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Speaker 1: four DHBs. That felt about right to me. The andrew

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Speaker 1: Little centralized system always had a Soviet vibe about it,

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Speaker 1: and then when your centralized system was overseen by buffoons,

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Speaker 1: you got the result. You did critical critical line in

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Speaker 1: the report. The center made requests, the district ignored them.

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Speaker 1: That's sabotage. There were no supporting action plans, ownership, budget impacts, tracking,

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Speaker 1: reporting or governments none. Health New Zealand did not have

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Speaker 1: the right executable board level controls. This is yet more labour,

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Speaker 1: party and competency. Of course, all ideology, no delivery. By

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Speaker 1: the time you had the Brian Roche report out the

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Speaker 1: other day into the public service generally, surely we have

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Speaker 1: a case that shows not only do we have a

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Speaker 1: bloated structure of too many people, but many of those

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Speaker 1: in that bloated structure and bloating are hopeless and or

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Speaker 1: undermining what is trying to be done. Doge anyone for

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