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Speaker 1: Health Inded's report into this case of mistaken identity is

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Speaker 1: out today. This is the eleven year old autistic girl

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Speaker 1: who was mistaken for a twenty year old woman somehow.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Richard Sullivan is Healthing deed's chief Medical officeries with

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Speaker 1: me this evening. Hello, Hi Ryan, Yeah, good, thank you.

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Speaker 1: So does anyone get fired over this or want?

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Speaker 2: Ryan? So, look, you know, this has obviously been a

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Speaker 2: very event that just should never happen our health system.

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Speaker 2: And as you're probably read, we've done to full reports

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Speaker 2: on that, one around the event and one around the escalation.

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Speaker 2: And I think what's clear here is that our staff

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Speaker 2: we're doing everything in that faith. We're working hard. There's

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Speaker 2: no doubt there's some human error curred here, but we

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Speaker 2: just need to learn from that. Related to the escalation,

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Speaker 2: you'll see one of the best advice in that recommendation

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Speaker 2: is to look into an HR process to see what

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Speaker 2: you know, what shall be undertaken and what further action

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Speaker 2: should be taken from that. But that's a piece of.

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Speaker 1: Works, right, that's the fact that you didn't tell the

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Speaker 1: Minister's on time, right or in time?

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Speaker 2: That's right?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So coming back to this young girl, how do

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Speaker 1: you go from so staff she comes in staff saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: she doesn't she looks like a child, she doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like an adult, to then administering adult medications, anti psycholic

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Speaker 1: adult medications.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the background of that, which again you're seeing

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Speaker 2: the report, is that, as you say, you know, the

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Speaker 2: police brought her in, she was in the ED initially,

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Speaker 2: and the staff team who are looking outter there, you know,

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Speaker 2: they's exactly as you've described. Within a short period of time.

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Speaker 2: Then the misidentification, if I put it that way, from

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Speaker 2: the best came through confirming it was as somebody else.

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Speaker 2: And so the team then, which was a different team

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Speaker 2: than the one that's seeing you earlier, then talked that

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Speaker 2: as the identification. There's no other means to identify you. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: again you'll see in the report, and that comes down

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Speaker 2: to some of the recommendations we've made. And so from

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Speaker 2: then on the team provided that, you know, with the

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Speaker 2: best information they had recognizing them that.

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Speaker 1: Well, well you could argue the best information they had

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Speaker 1: was actually from the ED staff who said this is

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Speaker 1: a child.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they said this as a child. I

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Speaker 2: think there was a Yeah, I was going to say

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Speaker 2: there was there was. There was no questions raised as

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Speaker 2: to you know, you have an undidentified patient in the ED.

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Speaker 2: The questions are raised as to who is this? And

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Speaker 2: there was as you say, commentary or type the child okay,

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Speaker 2: and that's I cares. That's what we call them out

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Speaker 2: of the fine.

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Speaker 1: She refused the oral medication that she was off of,

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Speaker 1: this young girl, and then you injected her with meds

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Speaker 1: adult meds anyway? Is that common? I mean, can you

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Speaker 1: just inject anybody who does who refuses medication?

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Speaker 2: So I'd probably look at it slightly differently. So this

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Speaker 2: they believed they were treating a patient who had significant

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Speaker 2: help billing, who was under the Mental Health Act, and

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Speaker 2: so they were providing care based on that patient's history,

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Speaker 2: and so they were delivering therapy that they would normally

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Speaker 2: deliver the patient so ill they thought she had.

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Speaker 1: If you're under the Act, then that can be done.

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Speaker 1: But for your average Joe Blogs is not under the Act.

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Speaker 1: There's no way that you could walk into to a

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Speaker 1: hospital and be injected with something you didn't want to

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Speaker 1: be injected with. Right, So it was the mistaken identity

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Speaker 1: that led to the injection. Indeed, okay, what was she

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Speaker 1: doing that required anti muscular drugs.

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Speaker 2: So she was one of the challenges with you know,

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Speaker 2: how people present through to our health systems is that

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Speaker 2: different people, as different illness can come in the next

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Speaker 2: other situations. So her symptoms were mimicking, you know, what

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Speaker 2: you would see with somebody who had an underlying mental

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Speaker 2: health illness. And so you know, again the staff, based

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Speaker 2: on what they knew, you know, with bus information, they

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Speaker 2: had treating her with somebody who they believe had the

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Speaker 2: mental help illness, who, as you're seeing the report, had

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Speaker 2: a history of symptoms escalating, and so they were treating

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Speaker 2: with that leanings rather than knowing that it was somebody different.

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Speaker 1: Can you give it to some plain language. What was

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Speaker 1: she doing like convulsing or punching or being angry? What?

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Speaker 2: No, just just just just demonstrating, you know, symptoms of

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Speaker 2: somebody who you know could have an underlaying mental health illness.

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Speaker 1: But what are the symptoms?

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Speaker 2: I probably you wouldn't want to go into too much detail,

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Speaker 2: but you know, she was stressed, you know that when

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Speaker 2: you could imagine she was stressed because she was identified

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Speaker 2: as somebody that she wasn't, so that they were doing

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Speaker 2: that to kind of manage her in the environment.

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Speaker 1: But what I guess what I mean, people will be

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Speaker 1: wondering how stressed was she, you know, like, was she aggressive,

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Speaker 1: was she violent? Was she throwing her hands around? Was

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Speaker 1: there a need for her to have anti muscular drugs?

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Speaker 1: Or do you just sedate people because they're under a

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Speaker 1: section and it's easier to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I don't I don't from what I understand,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe she was what you've described. But as

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Speaker 2: I say that, I think that now the issue here

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Speaker 2: is that she was presented. They believe she was somebody else.

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Speaker 2: They were following their normal protocols and pathways when they're

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Speaker 2: providing that care, and as I said, I think that

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Speaker 2: you know, this is human era. The staff and good

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Speaker 2: faith were delivering care, and obviously it wasn't until later

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Speaker 2: that day when the police appropriately identified her that obviously

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Speaker 2: we discovered that the care she had had was not okay.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's really important to be clear. Ryan,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's not okay that this happened, and you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're going to do everything we can to

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Speaker 2: make sure this doesn't happen again in our system.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I appreciate your time, doctor, Richard Sullivan, Chief

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Speaker 1: Medical Officer, Health and said, I should say, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are texting in where were the parents?

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Speaker 1: We don't know the answer. You know, the caregiver or

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Speaker 1: the parents to this young girl. We don't know the

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Speaker 1: answer to that. I don't know the answer to that

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Speaker 1: because I don't know who she is, because Health and

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Speaker 1: Said doesn't say because it's confident, private patient information, which

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Speaker 1: you can understand too. So I understand why people ask

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Speaker 1: the question. I've asked the question too, but I just

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