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Speaker 1: It's your source of freaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way, News, Togs,

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Speaker 1: EDBS morning You welcome today.

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Speaker 2: Western seems to start the campaign early Razer on Saturday

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Speaker 2: and how good that was for Rugby. Good news from

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Speaker 2: the Health Department as operations are up and targets are exceeded.

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Speaker 2: Got the Prime Minister in for a Monday word of course,

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Speaker 2: the lads in the commentary box, Richard Arnold, Steve Price

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Speaker 2: in the mix as well. Hosky, Welcome to the new week.

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Speaker 2: Seven past six. What a contrast Saturday night was I

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Speaker 2: at Eden Park, Rugby as good as you could possibly want.

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Speaker 2: For all the hype and the worry of the week,

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks reminded us that when it comes together,

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Speaker 2: when it really matters and records of significance are on

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Speaker 2: the line, there was no side in the world that

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Speaker 2: can touch them. We won well, we never looked like

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Speaker 2: we would lose, and when you know you're that good,

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Speaker 2: there's no reason to believe you won't win the rest

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Speaker 2: of the season. Meantime, in the by election, what a

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Speaker 2: shocking reminder of several things. One give an MMP, we

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Speaker 2: no longer need Maory seats. Two given those who argue

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Speaker 2: for Maori seats do so at least in part because

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Speaker 2: Maury new to see themselves represented and they need the

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Speaker 2: chance to participate. Why don't they The turnout was appalling.

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Speaker 2: It was a joke. Three What does the result tell

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Speaker 2: you about the Labor Party? Four? What does the result

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Speaker 2: tell you about the Maori Party. Let's deal with three. First,

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Speaker 2: the seat'sman, Henaray's for three terms until he lost last

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Speaker 2: time by forty two votes. Not great, but not the

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Speaker 2: end of the world. Yet Saturday they rejected him spectacularly.

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Speaker 2: Not only couldn't they get the vote out, those that

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Speaker 2: did turn up didn't want Heneray all Labor. You can

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Speaker 2: argue all you want about by elections and history and turnouts,

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Speaker 2: but this was embarrassing. But back to four, this was

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Speaker 2: not a win for the candidate either. This was a

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Speaker 2: win for the party. The candidate didn't seem up to much. Worryingly,

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Speaker 2: that doesn't seem to matter, which indicates in most races,

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Speaker 2: we don't vote for the individual, we vote for the party.

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Speaker 2: The Maori Party will be worried because they too failed

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Speaker 2: the fact that they seem to have the Maori vote

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Speaker 2: such as it is stitched up. So the All Blacks

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Speaker 2: march on after one of the great matches, the Marory

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Speaker 2: Party take a win that was worryingly troubled, and the

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Speaker 2: Labor Party must really be wondering if the size of

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Speaker 2: this rejection is potentially there to be played out again

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Speaker 2: next to you short of them doing something pretty spectacular

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Speaker 2: between now and next October and obium news of the world,

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Speaker 2: and for all the coalition of the Willing meetings that

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Speaker 2: still hasn't stopped. The bombs dropping keeps been hit again

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Speaker 2: as I was sleeping or heard the explosion. The house shook,

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Speaker 2: the sixth floor balcony is on fire.

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Speaker 3: I just have no more wits left to express what

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Speaker 3: I feel towards Russia.

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Speaker 4: Only expletives.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the idea of a Putin meeting seems farstical.

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Speaker 5: I always said we can't trust he played games, and

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Speaker 5: he's playing games with the United States.

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Speaker 4: Putin's goal is doc You've paid Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: So the pressure's back on Trump.

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Speaker 6: Are you ready to hoo for the second phase of

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Speaker 2: I think he's probably going to turn up at the

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Speaker 2: tennis shortly and that may well turn into a news

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Speaker 2: story today when I say him, that's Trump and he's

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Speaker 2: at the US Open final. And the last time he

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Speaker 2: turned up there was a tremendous amount of booing, so

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Speaker 2: much booing that they couldn't avoid the booing. So they've

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Speaker 2: asked the networks, if there's a lot of booing, please

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Speaker 2: don't focus on the booing. In Britain, Farag's head a

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Speaker 2: triumph and the week end at this conference, they've tested

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Speaker 2: their cell phones for emergencies that didn't go well. By

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Speaker 2: the way, I'll come back to all of that. And

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Speaker 2: the government has come up with a new place to

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Speaker 2: put the illegals from boats. They're thinking barracks.

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Speaker 7: We are looking at the potential use of military and

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Speaker 7: non military use sites for temporary accommodation for the people

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Speaker 7: who come across on these small boats that may not

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Speaker 2: Obviously not universally supported.

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Speaker 3: I don't see a way for the government to be

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Speaker 3: able to use small military sites without a lot of opposition.

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Speaker 3: So on humanitarian grounds, these sites are not fit for

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Speaker 2: And then enter France, where it would appear that by

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Speaker 2: about this time tomorrow they're going to be looking for

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Speaker 8: Francois by so propose as a budget that once again

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Speaker 8: penalizes the most vulnerable working class families, ordinary workers. What

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Speaker 8: we need today is to rebalance the state's finances, to

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Speaker 8: go looking for wealth where it actually is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's got the number some how. Finally,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Trump has turned up at Flushing Meadow

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Speaker 2: and they did, in fact booth. Finally, Joe Chesnut has

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Speaker 2: done it again. He was competing in the World Poutine

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Speaker 2: Eating Championship. He did twelve kgs a poutine and he

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Speaker 2: did it in ten minutes, which is roughly twenty two

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Speaker 2: use the World of nine. Tell you what's a busy

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Speaker 2: morning today? Good news. The Japanese finalized their trade tariffs

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Speaker 2: with the US at fifteen percent, so Issubar, the Prime Minister,

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Speaker 2: So that happened late last night in Japan. So he's gone.

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Speaker 2: They're going to have to hold an emergency leadership vote.

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Speaker 2: But this is the Liberal Democrat party. So he's been

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Speaker 2: in trouble ever since the last election. He's been pondering

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Speaker 2: his future. He pondered no more. He's walked twelve.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that's happening. France is going to be

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Speaker 2: the big one this week, but Norway's voting as we speak,

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Speaker 2: Norway voting today and tomorrow. Small country, but they box

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Speaker 2: So Labor run the place. The Tories ran it for

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Speaker 2: by tomorrow. Fifteen past six. Generate Greek Smith, good morning

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Speaker 9: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Well, last time the job numbers came in, they weren't

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Speaker 9: They rose by just twenty two thousand August, so that

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Speaker 9: It actually showed a contraction of thirteen thousand jobs rather

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Speaker 9: So the bell might certainly have been rung for the feed.

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Speaker 2: They might now the tech companies, the numbers now just

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Speaker 2: it was still a big week for tech spite a

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Speaker 9: They got that positive ruling, so it doesn't look like

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Speaker 9: they're going to be broken up anytime soon. They are

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Speaker 9: them to have a bigger deal with Gemini. Yeah, so

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Speaker 9: Open AI. So these years are up nine percent on Friday.

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Speaker 9: There isn't one hundred and twenty percent over the past year.

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Speaker 9: They're also in the trillion dollar club one point six trillion,

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Speaker 9: still less than half in the video, but it's catch

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Speaker 9: up on a few fronts. And just on the subject

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Speaker 9: of market caps, tears a wilding at that, don't we

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Speaker 9: Mike up over five percent last week. They've approved to

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Speaker 9: pay plan for Musk or they want to approve one

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Speaker 9: that could be up to almost one trillion dollars. I

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Speaker 9: can get the company's market cap up towards two trillions.

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Speaker 9: It's about double worders now, so big numbers.

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Speaker 2: Mike, Yeah, I wish them well with that because it's

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Speaker 2: not going to happen. Lulu Lemon, Now, I was talking

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Speaker 2: to somebody about this over the weekend. So my understanding

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Speaker 2: is the young kids all like baggy clothes. Now they

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Speaker 2: lost their shine basically.

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Speaker 9: with the times, and management made the point about that.

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Speaker 9: They said they've become too predictable with their casual offerings

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Speaker 9: and they're going to accelerate innovation. So I suppose Shopers Mike,

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Speaker 9: they can expect the new legging styles they and increasing

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Speaker 2: At be Morning, Mike's split screens next Saturday Night. Silly

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Speaker 2: On Now last week it was the tennis where the

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Speaker 2: morning to you, Good morning. In the grand scheme of things,

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Speaker 14: It clears a lot of cases off the weight list.

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Speaker 14: I think the value of the number is just to

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Speaker 2: Cataracts at five thousand strikes me as being there. They're

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the northern region, I'm looking at the numbers

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Speaker 2: How does this work in a high Do you get

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Speaker 14: No, it's a little bit secret sqrarel.

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Speaker 16: We don't know.

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Speaker 2: To be done right. And so you feel that things

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Speaker 14: With my private hat on. I'm definitely seeing every week

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Speaker 14: if you're on the waiting list. There's no check up

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Speaker 14: of trying to get rid of certain targets for ethnicities

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Speaker 14: of ages like the previous institution, previous years we've done.

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Speaker 14: It is just a matter of trying to get as

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Speaker 14: many patients as soon as possible.

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Speaker 2: Very broadly, are we on the right track here?

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Speaker 14: Yes, I think it is a really good maneuver. It

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Speaker 14: worries me long term training. What are our doctors, surgeons

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Speaker 14: and ethetists in ten years time? What even theater nurses,

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Speaker 14: how are they are going to be able to handle

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Speaker 14: the smaller cases and the high turn other cases that

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Speaker 14: they don't see them in the public institutions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Chris shot it very much. Chris Wakeman, General

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Speaker 2: Surgeon and at the University of Otago's references. The more

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Speaker 2: you go the private the training is done at the public,

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Speaker 2: and if they don't see as much in public, you

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Speaker 2: don't get as much training done. Let's go to the stage.

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Speaker 2: In Richard Donald shortly eighteen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks, it be morning, Mike, who cares of the reason

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Speaker 2: wins whitelister as a whitelister. It's all relevant to the patients.

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Speaker 12: It's very true.

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Speaker 2: Six forty five.

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Speaker 16: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 16: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Biside Richard Old Morning, good morning. You make so precious

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Speaker 2: back on Trump. I'm assuming, given there's no meeting in

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Speaker 2: the bombs are still falling.

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Speaker 6: You would think Russia's Putin has just slammed Ukraine with

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Speaker 6: the biggest area bombardment of the war so far. They

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Speaker 6: launched more than eight hundred drones in their latest volley

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Speaker 6: and other weapons as well, targeting science, including the building

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Speaker 6: in the main square in Kiev which houses Ukraine's governing cabinet,

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Speaker 6: so no stop signs are there. Ukraine managed to shoot

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Speaker 6: many of those drones, but part of the roof of

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Speaker 6: the building was set a light. So this after the

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Speaker 6: Trump imposed two week deadline for peace talks between Putin

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Speaker 6: and Zelenski expired, and just days after that summit in

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Speaker 6: Beijing featuring what China, Russia, India, and North Korea tagged

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Speaker 6: as a new World Order or whatever we should call them.

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Speaker 6: So now Trump has been calling European leaders and urging

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Speaker 6: them to put more pressure on China. Treasury Secretary Scott

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Speaker 6: Besson says today the US is open to an expanded

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Speaker 6: partnership to apply more sanctions on those who buy Russian oil.

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Speaker 17: He says the US and the EU can come in

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Speaker 17: to more sanctioned secondary tariffs on the countries that buy

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Speaker 17: Russian oil. The Russian economy will be in four collapse

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Speaker 17: and that will bring President Putin.

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Speaker 18: To the table.

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Speaker 6: Trump already imposed fifty percent tariffs on India, citing the

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Speaker 6: country's continuing purchase of Russian oil. Not clear how close

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Speaker 6: any of these new sanctions is, says Bessent of this situation.

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Speaker 17: We're prepared increase pressure and Russia. We need our European

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Speaker 17: partners to follow us.

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Speaker 6: In an interview with America's ABC Now Ukraine, Zelensky says

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Speaker 6: he thinks that imposing tariffs in.

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Speaker 4: This way is the right tack. He says, we have

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Speaker 4: to stop by any kind of energy from Russia.

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Speaker 5: But the way anything any deals, we can't have any

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Speaker 5: deals if we want to sob down.

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Speaker 6: Asked about the Alaska somewhere between Trump and Putin, Zelenski

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Speaker 6: says he wasn't there, but he says Putin got everything

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Speaker 6: he wanted in terms of international pr The latest Putin

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Speaker 6: gambit is to suggest that Zelenski could visit Moscow if

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Speaker 6: he wishes for any.

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Speaker 2: Direct talks over the wars. Zelenski says, well.

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Speaker 4: He can come to Kiev.

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Speaker 2: Tennis underway, Yeah, so it's underway right now.

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Speaker 6: The big finals match sh at the US Open between

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Speaker 6: Spain's color Sakaras and Italysianik Sinner, the two rising stars

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Speaker 6: in the game. Trump decided to attend, but the last

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Speaker 6: time he was there in twenty fifteen, he was raucously boots,

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Speaker 6: So the White House asked the broadcasters to tensor any booze,

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Speaker 6: and the US Tennis Association agreed. They requested the broadcasters

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Speaker 6: any protests or other reactions to Trump from the telecast.

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Speaker 6: When Trump arrived at the stadium, he appeared briefly for

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Speaker 6: a cameo, which was not carried live. Some cheers were heard,

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Speaker 6: while the overwhelming reaction Trump's fist, pumps and whales were

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Speaker 6: gears and booze from the tennis fans. Then the idea

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Speaker 6: was to have Trump shown on screen as the national

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Speaker 6: anthem was being sung, so the anthem would cover up

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Speaker 6: any crowd noise, even if fans decided to challenge etiquette.

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Speaker 6: Here's what happened when Trump's image appeared.

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Speaker 11: That are flag was.

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Speaker 2: So, there's Trump appearing on screen.

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Speaker 11: There say that star.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well kind of covered the whole thing, didn't it.

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Speaker 6: But those notes were held for a long long while.

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Speaker 10: She was out of breath.

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Speaker 6: Anyhow, not clear wherether any anti Trump proto will are

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Speaker 6: up during the match, and presumably those in the crowd

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Speaker 6: have their own mobile phones to get around any network

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Speaker 6: TV broadcast censorship in this land of the Free.

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Speaker 2: See Wednesday Richard Old State side Department of War if

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Speaker 2: you missed it over the weekend. Pentagon's going to become

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Speaker 2: the Department of War the way it used to be

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Speaker 2: many years ago, and Hexseth is going to be the

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Speaker 2: Secretary of War. Perhaps more worryingly for them this morning

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Speaker 2: is the NBC poll that's out. He's underwater in a

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Speaker 2: major way. Trump forty three percent approve, fifty seven percent disapprove,

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Speaker 2: thirty nine percent approve of his handling of inflation, forty

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Speaker 2: one percent approve of his handling of trade and tariffs. So,

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Speaker 2: in other words, more people disapprove and the other one

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Speaker 2: to watch this week In America, they rounded up the

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Speaker 2: Ice agents, rounded up a lot of Koreans and the

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Speaker 2: South Korean government. This is in America. This is a

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Speaker 2: a at a factory in Georgia. LG Energy Solutions rounded

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Speaker 2: up hundreds of them, allegedly four hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 2: in fact, allegedly they're there illegally on temporary visas, on

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Speaker 2: a temporary visa account work in America, So the government

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Speaker 2: is dispatched, as in the Korean government's dispatched a bunch

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Speaker 2: of people to Washington try and sort this out. But

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Speaker 2: it looks increasingly tense, so we'll see where this goes.

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Speaker 1: Ten to seven, The Make Casting Breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 1: estate news dog Zebby.

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Speaker 2: What are defections going on at the moment? Are Nadine

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Speaker 2: Doris who is a very high profile ex Tory minister

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Speaker 2: in Britain. She defected over the weekend to reform, so

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Speaker 2: that seems to be running at about one or two

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Speaker 2: people a week at the moment. I read a very

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Speaker 2: good piece from the Political Letter of the BBC. He

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Speaker 2: said he's been to any number of conferences, he's never

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Speaker 2: seen anything like what's happening with reform in Britain at

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Speaker 2: the moment. So let's deal more with that with Rod tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Also speaking of defections, is this possibility.

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Speaker 11: They don't listen to national radio and they trust.

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Speaker 2: Mike Hosking far more than the PM to tell them

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Speaker 2: how it is. Stuart Nath they seem to agree with them.

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Speaker 2: Stuart Nash at the New Zealand First conference over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: so that seems to be kind of I'm heading that

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Speaker 2: way and this process to go through, and once I've

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Speaker 2: gone through the process, I'll probably end up a potentially

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Speaker 2: an MP and presumably a senior player and the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand First Party, which brings us to Winston Peter's after

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Speaker 2: seven o'clock this morning. If Peters goes, which you will eventually,

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Speaker 2: maybe not this election, but he needs some sort of

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Speaker 2: succession plan, maybe Nashes that, maybe Jones is it? Can

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Speaker 2: anyone name me anybody from New Zealand First apart from

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Speaker 2: Jones and Peter's And that in part is their problem,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. So they need more robust representation, So that

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Speaker 2: might be part of the bigger plan, the bigger picture.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes away from seven well, the ins and.

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Speaker 1: The ouse, it's the Fizz with business Faber take your

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Speaker 1: business productivity to the next levels.

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Speaker 2: In Peter's with us directly after seven o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 2: Calm cations have been the rage this travel season. Other

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Speaker 2: side of the world. They're in autumn, they're heading towards winter,

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Speaker 2: of course, So what were the trends of the summer

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five or the trend was calm caass.

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Speaker 2: It's when you book somewhere quiet to get away from

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Speaker 2: it all, wanting to get away from the doors, particularly traffic.

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Speaker 2: People hate traffic and they want to get away from it,

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Speaker 2: as well as going somewhere like a cabin where there's

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Speaker 2: nature and there's no internet and you can unwind. So

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Speaker 2: a number of travel sites, from booking dot com to weir,

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Speaker 2: b and b and Expedia, have cited these particular types

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Speaker 2: of holidays as being among the most popular for the

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Speaker 2: holiday season. Napa Valley is very popular, Arizona very high

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Speaker 2: as far as the States are concerned, the Norwegian coast,

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Speaker 2: and off the beaten track places in London, Off the

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Speaker 2: beaten track places in London. What does that even mean?

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Speaker 2: Off the beaten track places in London. When people book

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Speaker 2: the holidays, they didn't book a lot of activities apparently,

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Speaker 2: so now mad rushes to see a temple or a

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Speaker 2: full day excuse and they just got their cabin in

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Speaker 2: Arizona and said, has a serenity Scott Robertson to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how banged up they are. I mean

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Speaker 2: some of them are more banged up than others, obviously,

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Speaker 2: but we've only got a week between games. So Scott

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Speaker 2: Robinson in the next half hour of the program, Christoph

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Speaker 2: luxon on a whole bunch of things this morning, including

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Speaker 2: the turnout for the by election, and what was interesting

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Speaker 2: I guess yesterday out of Winston Peters as he lined

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Speaker 2: up along with david'son Anymore and said, we've got to

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Speaker 2: get out of Paris. So two of the three parties

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Speaker 2: in the current government are saying we've got to get

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Speaker 2: out of Paris now. That may not come to pass

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Speaker 2: because what Peter says at this particular point in time

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Speaker 2: means nothing. They're a smallish party and you know you

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Speaker 2: don't automatically get your policies through. But when you got

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Speaker 2: two of the three parties in government both saying the

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Speaker 2: same thing, there's a building mood. And we talked about

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Speaker 2: that on the program last week. Whether you go to America,

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Speaker 2: you go to the Tories in Britain, there is a

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Speaker 2: building mood globally to get out of Paris. Simply not

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Speaker 2: that we don't want to save the climate, but simply

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Speaker 2: it does not and is not working. So something to

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Speaker 2: watch for the future. Winston Peter's directly after the news

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Speaker 2: you're at News Talk said.

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Speaker 1: Be the only report you need to start your day

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven of the Pea is the election campaign

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Speaker 2: of twenty six is already begun. They gathered in Palms

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Speaker 2: to the North over the weekend from New Zealand. First

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Speaker 2: rev up Stewart Nash turned up as a possible for

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Speaker 2: few you candidate and we got some key we Saber

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Speaker 2: policy as well. Leader Winston Peter's with us. Pretty good

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Speaker 2: morning to you. Good morning this Paris accord between you

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Speaker 2: and ACT? Are you placing already pressure on national to

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Speaker 2: do something about it?

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Speaker 19: It's not between us and Actor. I said a long

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Speaker 19: time ago that the developments of the huge emissions from

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Speaker 19: four countries caused us to the question, liners, are we

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Speaker 19: expected to deliver on our part of the bargain when

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Speaker 19: they are not delivering on theirs. The ACT party has

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Speaker 19: followed that, but it's not agreement to us an ACT.

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Speaker 19: We've never spoken about it.

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Speaker 2: No, But between the two of you, you've got three

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Speaker 2: parties in coalition running the country at the moment. Two

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Speaker 2: of them don't want to be part of Paris, So

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Speaker 2: do you lean.

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Speaker 19: On national Well, no, look, I'm not saying what that

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Speaker 19: act Party is saying in that sense. What we're saying

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Speaker 19: is we have to go and ask the rest of

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Speaker 19: them what on earth they think is going on in

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Speaker 19: terms of the deal that they signed up to at

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Speaker 19: the time and how it can it possibly be delivered

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Speaker 19: when four countries have sixty percent of the emissions.

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Speaker 2: The detail on Kiwi saber. When do we get it?

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Speaker 19: Oh, look, we're developing that because what's happened here is

657
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Speaker 19: you've got thousands and thousands of people, hundred thousands have

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Speaker 19: signed up, but they're not contributing, they're not saving, and

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Speaker 19: so it's not as deeply easy as some of the

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Speaker 19: journalist's thought just to work out what's going on. But

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Speaker 19: we're going to make a compulsory and we're going to

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Speaker 19: assure the spaced at a level which you'll see comprehensively

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Speaker 19: is followed overseas. We need to turn this into a

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Speaker 19: super super saving fund and a superinvestment fund at the

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Speaker 19: same time, but not in the control of politicians.

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Speaker 2: When you talked about yesterday tax cuts, that's literally a

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Speaker 2: tax cut for a person who's contributing to Kiwi saber

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Speaker 2: or is it? Is it a rebate or how it

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Speaker 2: it worked?

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Speaker 19: That's a tax cut for the person contributing to key

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Speaker 19: wesaver and also for the employer.

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Speaker 2: Right, so I would pay I would pay less tax

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Speaker 2: if I'm contributing to kiwisaber? Exactly are you still with us?

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Speaker 17: Yes?

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Speaker 19: I said exactly, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the differentiation? What's your assessment at this particular point

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Speaker 2: of campaign. Because I listened to your speech yesterday and

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Speaker 2: I heard what you said about a variety of different things,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, how do you differentiate yourself as

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Speaker 2: a party in a campaign where you're not going to

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Speaker 2: go with labor so you're sort of lining up to

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Speaker 2: go with National maybe Act again, and you've got to

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Speaker 2: look different. How does that work?

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Speaker 19: Because we're compellingly different. We're not out there ideological extremists

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Speaker 19: putting out something that's failed for the last forty years

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Speaker 19: or something in the case of the left hand side,

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Speaker 19: which failed a long time ago from the day it started,

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Speaker 19: and pulling us misery around the world called Marxism. We're

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Speaker 19: in the middle. We're pragmatic, we don't deny that, and

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Speaker 19: we talk about common sense solutions. And around the world

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Speaker 19: and around these hill at the moment, that's what people

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Speaker 19: are asking for. Look, just give you an example, Dad,

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Speaker 19: Provincial airlines were starting to close down in critical parts

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Speaker 19: like Blake Barrier Island and elsewhere Pokapane for example, and

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Speaker 19: we've stepped in and found two two me to say,

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Speaker 19: now this is vital to keep it going. We've got

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Speaker 19: to keep that infrastructure going because as they recover and

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Speaker 19: go forward, then they will be essentially part of the

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Speaker 19: national good, national network, and they're now tied into anyw Zealand.

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Speaker 19: That crisis forced us to do the right thing and

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Speaker 19: ensure that we keep the infrastructure going. We can't afford

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Speaker 19: to have factory stones because of lack of energy. That's

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Speaker 19: what his zil First is saying. We're talking about practical solutions,

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Speaker 19: not blind ideology that somedow somehow says, oh well they

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Speaker 19: stick to this and it all come right. Well we've

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Speaker 19: waited forty five us for to come right. It has

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Speaker 19: come right.

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Speaker 2: Bottom lines are any of the policies? Who will any

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Speaker 2: of the policies be bottom lines? During the campaign.

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Speaker 19: I don't like that expression, Mike, because a meansa not

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Speaker 19: actually there to negotiator there to be adamant and rigid

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Speaker 19: about things. But if there are things that we are

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Speaker 19: never going to sell ourselves out for, yes there are,

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Speaker 19: but we don't call them bottom lines. We just hope

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Speaker 19: the rest have got enough common sense of negotiating table

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Speaker 19: to understand them.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate you time very much when Stanmpeter's and

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Speaker 2: New Zealand first leader could have been the start of

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Speaker 2: the campaign right there, eleven minutes past seven.

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Speaker 4: Pasking what's in a job?

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Speaker 2: Well, perem rem a prison houses the country's most notorious criminals.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the theory is if you slap some colorful

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Speaker 2: designs and shapes on the walls, you'll lift the quote

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Speaker 2: oppressive surroundings. Now, this apparently all came out of concerns

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Speaker 2: from the Chief on Woodsman's report last December about cruel

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Speaker 2: and humane and degrading conditions. Lee marsh is Corrections Custodial

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Speaker 2: Services Commissioner and is with us morning.

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Speaker 20: Oh, good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: So it's one thing to have a report, I guess

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Speaker 2: it's another thing to go after might attend to buy

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Speaker 2: a hol ot of buckets of ten litre paint? How

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Speaker 2: does this thing unfold?

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Speaker 18: You know?

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Speaker 2: From the report to this, how do we get here?

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Speaker 20: Well, this is actually part of a much broader piece

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Speaker 20: of work, just one small part of it. We're looking

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Speaker 20: at a range of combination of both maintenance and improvements

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Speaker 20: to the safety and security of the whole environment. And

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Speaker 20: just being clear, this isn't isn't just around the prisoners.

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Speaker 20: Whilst we've had that feedback around the oppressive nature of

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Speaker 20: a very stark and basic scheme within that environment, we've

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Speaker 20: also got to appreciate that our staff and a lot

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Speaker 20: of other workers work in that environment too, so we

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Speaker 20: want to make that as as good and conducive for

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Speaker 20: them as possible.

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Speaker 2: Who designs what it looks like?

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Speaker 20: Well, the color schemes and the designs are pulled together

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Speaker 20: by an in house design team as part of others saying,

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Speaker 20: much broader piece of work. We've had a range of

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Speaker 20: people at work in that environment and visit that environment,

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Speaker 20: input into that, and that's where we've come up with

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Speaker 20: what is, quite frankly, a very basic geometric design that

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Speaker 20: enables us to maintain it and keep it keep it

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Speaker 20: in a good state for longer.

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Speaker 2: Is it design that's the key or the color?

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Speaker 20: I think there's a combination of both. So what to

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Speaker 20: be really clear here, when we talk about murials, we're

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Speaker 20: not talking about pictures of people and landscapes. We're talking

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Speaker 20: about a range of colors that kind of more natural colors,

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Speaker 20: sort of hues of blues and greens. And we're talking

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Speaker 20: about geometric triangles that, to be frank to look a

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Speaker 20: little bit like trees. But we keep them nice and

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Speaker 20: simple because they're all done with stencils. And inevitably this

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Speaker 20: is a prison unit and things will get damaged and

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Speaker 20: graffited and we can just pop in with the spensil

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Speaker 20: and repainted.

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Speaker 2: What do the staff say? Are they bullish on this?

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Speaker 2: Are they excited about it? Or is it like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: good luck now.

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Speaker 20: I think the staff are really supportive of making our

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Speaker 20: environment a lot better for them to work in. It's

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Speaker 20: just to be clear. I mean that a lot of

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Speaker 20: the reports so far I've talked just about the prisoner

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Speaker 20: selling yard. It's far greater than that. It's all of

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Speaker 20: the entry ways, the four years, the staff areas, the

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Speaker 20: external yards, the visits area, of the interviews. Essentially, it's

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Speaker 20: quite if you can imagine a large commercial building and

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Speaker 20: it's everything in there, of all the areas that our

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Speaker 20: stuff are working. So they're very supportive of this.

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Speaker 2: You got any kping our eyes out of this? I mean,

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Speaker 2: is there any thing material that will ever come out

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Speaker 2: of this? Well, people commit fewer murders, they'll be less

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Speaker 2: better than then the prison. Someone will skip down the

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Speaker 2: corridor because they're so thrilled to work. Now, I mean,

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Speaker 2: does anything.

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Speaker 20: Actually happen now, Well, we know there's a lot of

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Speaker 20: research that suggests that moving away from very stark and plain,

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Speaker 20: great environments does help reduce tension and monotony. Well, God,

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Speaker 20: appreciate is the men that are in this environment are

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Speaker 20: going to be in here for a long time, and

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Speaker 20: they are very dangerous individuals, and one of the things

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Speaker 20: we were focused on is how we can get them

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Speaker 20: engaged and not bored, because things like that help them

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Speaker 20: engage in rehab rehab, but also reduce the tension and

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Speaker 20: make it safer for us staff.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it. Leley Marsh who's with the corrections.

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Speaker 2: It's fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 4: This is a news talk saied B developing story.

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Speaker 2: So from Richard Chambers, the Police Commissioner. Police are responding

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Speaker 2: to a serious incident in the Western Way Cato this morning.

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Speaker 2: The Commissioner said police will provide a full update later

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Speaker 2: this morning. The acting Deputy Commissioner, Jill Roger, she's traveling

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Speaker 2: with the why Catto as we speak. We'll speak with

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Speaker 2: the media later. Chambers is in Melbourne. He's been attending

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Speaker 2: the funeral of those police members. That's the that's the

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Speaker 2: hunt and Victoria at the moment. Police say he will

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Speaker 2: return later on today. You can probably join a couple

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Speaker 2: of dots there to see where the story is going today.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: EDB Prime Minister and for a chap fifteen minutes away

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Speaker 2: eighteen minutes past seven to the rugby match with the Ages.

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Speaker 2: Really wasn't it delivered on Saturday night under enormous pressure?

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Speaker 2: That wasn't Part two about charge with the lost in

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Speaker 2: Argentine of the All Blacks one won well and kept

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Speaker 2: the much talked about record of Eden Park. Scott Robinson's

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Speaker 2: with a Scott Morning.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: You're a bit edgy in the box. There several times

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Speaker 2: were you were you struggling to contain yourself?

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Speaker 15: I was living in every play just like the players.

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Speaker 15: It was one of those games. I felt like I

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Speaker 15: was wasted sitting Yeah you just oh do you just

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Speaker 15: the occasion in the atmosphere you could feel it in

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Speaker 15: the warm up? Or was pree special? Wasn't it?

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Speaker 2: I reckon? What did you say at the end of

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Speaker 2: the game to them?

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Speaker 15: Just proud of the efforts in the care I think

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Speaker 15: the country showed how much it choose you need to

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Speaker 15: as as a team. And when you're in a fight,

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Speaker 15: like a title fight like that, when you have one

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Speaker 15: versus too, it can come down to any moments and

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Speaker 15: just how they want and moments. And it was right

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Speaker 15: to the end, from the first pay to the last

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Speaker 15: play the game was on. So it was just said

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Speaker 15: they stayed in it and we get to do it

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Speaker 15: all to keep this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how banged up are you? And when do you

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Speaker 2: get back into full training and all that stuff for

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Speaker 2: this week?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, look the docs on overtime. It's just because it's

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Speaker 15: one of those games, the brutality of it and the

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Speaker 15: amount of like our contact low was so high, probably

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Speaker 15: the highest it's ever been recorded. You know GPS in

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Speaker 15: the back of there between the shoulder base and poison.

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Speaker 15: So the Livis Boards. They got a few records. So look,

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Speaker 15: well we're review, we're recover and then the proper training

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Speaker 15: starts tomorrow. It is just going to give you self

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Speaker 15: body sort of forty eight seventy two hours.

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Speaker 2: To come right those new guys, did you have to

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Speaker 2: talk to them and go this this, this is going

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Speaker 2: to be something a bit different than what you might

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Speaker 2: have expected.

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Speaker 15: Ah, Look, you used to know. The big thing is

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Speaker 15: you just want to trust them, just their instincts and

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Speaker 15: the ability. You know, when you when you play an

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Speaker 15: instinct you move forward. You go forward, and see when

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Speaker 15: you go forward, and you're going to win contacts. And

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Speaker 15: someone like a summer park as a prime example. He

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Speaker 15: goes out there, a big body and he loves it

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Speaker 15: physically side of it. So just keep as simple as

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Speaker 15: you possibly can and enjoy it as much as you can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It reminded me of the good old days

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Speaker 2: in the sense that there used to be a time

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Speaker 2: in this country where the whole week was semi dominated

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Speaker 2: by the possibility of the coming Saturday. We didn't know

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Speaker 2: what which you know what I mean. It was just

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Speaker 2: like it used to be.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I felt like that, And there's so many stories

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Speaker 15: and narratives and you know the occasions and obviously the

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Speaker 15: record and you know after Argentina had like all those

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Speaker 15: things just added to it and a hell of a

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Speaker 15: storyline and that that played out and the packed house.

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Speaker 15: You know, it was a special ocasion to be a

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Speaker 15: part of. And like I said, you know this week,

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Speaker 15: it's good if you've done that, but you're going to

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Speaker 15: go and do it again. About how do you relive dead?

879
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Speaker 15: And how do you start the excimony game?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly. Are you expecting something different from them

881
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Speaker 2: this week? This weekend?

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Speaker 15: The majority of it will be the same, mic. I

883
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Speaker 15: think they won't go from too far from the DNA,

884
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Speaker 15: but they'll just to be as hungry. You know, one

885
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Speaker 15: thing about it, Bosi is as teams are so mentally

886
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Speaker 15: and physically tough. Uh, they're great competitors. So we expect

887
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Speaker 15: all that and a little bit a little bit of

888
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Speaker 15: innovation is that if we saw on the weekend as well,

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Speaker 15: something expect the unexpected.

890
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it shuts the critics up. For while Scott.

891
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Speaker 12: Does it.

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Speaker 15: Look on pretty good man and turned the noise off way.

893
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Speaker 15: I just as the team get the best out of

894
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Speaker 15: them and for that you're going to get best out

895
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Speaker 15: of myself and and that's like skip the environment. So

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Speaker 15: they the boys love what they're doing. You need and

897
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Speaker 15: they got when when you see that for what it

898
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Speaker 15: means to us on the weekend, help help how we're

899
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Speaker 15: willing to fight for everything.

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Speaker 2: So this role, well, there was a joy to watch.

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Speaker 2: Good catch up, preshout it go well this weekend. Scott

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Speaker 2: Ask Mike, did that interview about interior design improvements in

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Speaker 2: our top security prison really just happy?

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Speaker 15: Yes it did.

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Speaker 2: I did have a similar sort of thought, but some

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Speaker 2: real place here.

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Speaker 20: When we talk about murials, we're not talking about pictures

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Speaker 20: of people and landscapes.

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Speaker 2: The old muriels. Now, Mike, we saw passion back in

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Speaker 2: the game Saturday Night, and that's the magic, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I Mean what you saw of the all blacks on

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Speaker 2: at Eden Park, that the absolute desperation that were so

939
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Speaker 2: evident to win. How do you conjure that up each

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Speaker 2: and every week? Mike, can you please interview the acchoir

941
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Speaker 2: director from the anthems on Saturday night? Well, I don't

942
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Speaker 2: think we need to interview them. I mean they sang.

943
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Speaker 2: They sang extremely well, and they were very good versions

944
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Speaker 2: of the And I don't know why we don't do that,

945
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Speaker 2: to be frank every time, because in going individuals singers,

946
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Speaker 2: you take the risk that some are brilliant others are not. Mike,

947
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Speaker 2: that was the best and most passionate national anthem I've

948
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Speaker 2: ever ever heard of, Eden Park. I seem to agree.

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Speaker 2: I haven't got time to do it now, but I

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Speaker 2: will in the next half hour. Jenae tips Traney did

951
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Speaker 2: some brilliant work on treasury. This or slash quiggly thing

952
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: continues to unfold in an increasingly embarrassing, if not scandalous way.

953
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Speaker 2: And this is specifically in reference to the Reserve Bank

954
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Speaker 2: going to the government for amounts of money to run

955
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Speaker 2: their operation that defy belief. But anyway, let me come

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Speaker 2: back to that after the Prime Minister, who is next?

957
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Speaker 2: After the news? You're a news talk said?

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's Voice of Reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: togs Head be twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Minutes away from another morning. Prime Minister Christoph Luxton joints

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Speaker 2: is spring. Good morning to you want you like it

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Speaker 2: to be?

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Speaker 9: O ya.

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Speaker 2: You were at the rugby and that was where Scott

966
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Speaker 2: Robert no one before, but that that was the thing,

967
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Speaker 2: wasn't it was?

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Speaker 12: It was a moment good, proper test match, wasn't it?

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Speaker 12: And I had the great privilege of meeting the all

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Speaker 12: blacks and their change rooms afterwards, and man, some of

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Speaker 12: them have been what do you say to them in

972
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Speaker 12: that because they you know, they look at you. Some

973
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Speaker 12: will love you, some will hate you.

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Speaker 2: So you can confirm that all all blacks no, love you, No,

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Speaker 2: but they're all very good.

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Speaker 12: I mean it's actually just you just you know, I'm

977
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Speaker 12: always very interested in what do they do with their process, right,

978
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Speaker 12: I mean, like they're going into ice spars and they're

979
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Speaker 12: going onto two spas after treatments, and you know, they're

980
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Speaker 12: big guys and they do a lot of conditioning, a

981
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Speaker 12: lot of you know, and they all say, you know,

982
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Speaker 12: they feel like they've been in a car crash the

983
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Speaker 12: day after.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a tough game. Did you raise your

985
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Speaker 2: niggle with them? No, I didn't. What's your name?

986
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Speaker 11: My god?

987
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Speaker 12: You're doing this if I can't believe it?

988
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean you were sitting there watching the All

989
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Speaker 2: black game.

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Speaker 12: Okay, I've got to tell everyone now because you're just

991
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Speaker 12: going to embarrass me in front of the country, as

992
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Speaker 12: you tend to do. And I basically got out of

993
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Speaker 12: my seat, twisted to go down onto the onto the

994
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Speaker 12: paddock and then into the change rooms. And as I

995
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Speaker 12: came out of the seat, twisted and tweak my knee.

996
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Speaker 12: A little bit done your hair, But you feel a

997
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Speaker 12: real when you're sharp in the all black change room.

998
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Speaker 12: And these guys have been smashed up and done a

999
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Speaker 12: lot of stuff, and I'm just sort of trying to

1000
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Speaker 12: pretend not to hobble them.

1001
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Speaker 2: Did you Limpen?

1002
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Speaker 12: No, No, I didn't. I really really toughened up, and

1003
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Speaker 12: I really, well, they.

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Speaker 2: Test will be. You're doing a postcab meeting preciate day,

1005
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Speaker 2: so that it's quite a walk. It's quite a walk,

1006
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Speaker 2: hasn't it down the stairs? It could be an old

1007
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Speaker 2: managering the by election. The fact that nobody turned out

1008
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Speaker 2: has got to be of great concern to us all,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it.

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Speaker 12: Well, it surprised me completely because I thought Labour would

1011
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Speaker 12: trounce to Party Mara and they got killed, you know,

1012
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 12: two to one, and basically they got three thousand votes

1013
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 12: out of what sixty five thousand potential voters in that seat.

1014
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Speaker 12: So surprised me a bit. I thought, maybe, you know,

1015
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Speaker 12: I think, you know, at the end of the day,

1016
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Speaker 12: they haven't had any policies. They've just been criticizing, but

1017
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Speaker 12: haven't actually come forward with any policies or ideas. And

1018
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Speaker 12: I felt sorry Penny henri Ay because you know, Hopkins

1019
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Speaker 12: wasn't even in the party on Saturday night. They're supporting

1020
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Speaker 12: his team.

1021
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Speaker 2: No, but but regardless, it was a real shock. Actually,

1022
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Speaker 2: do we have a participation issue in this guy? I mean,

1023
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 2: you can dismiss it to an extent it was a

1024
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Speaker 2: by election, but you can't dismiss twenty percent.

1025
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what why that was

1026
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Speaker 12: such a low turnout and that Marie electric because as

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Speaker 12: I said, I think it's got probably sixty five thousand

1028
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Speaker 12: potential voters. It'll be similar to the general electorate's sort

1029
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Speaker 12: of composition of voting. And with all that machinery and

1030
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Speaker 12: you know, the two parties that were involved in that,

1031
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 12: you would have thought they would have activated you know,

1032
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 12: that vote out and got it, got it turning out.

1033
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Speaker 12: It's just you know, you noticed in local government, you

1034
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Speaker 12: know we've had probably what thirty five forty percent voter turnout.

1035
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Speaker 12: As I keep saying, democksty is pretty precious thing, and

1036
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Speaker 12: if you don't show up to sort of vote for it,

1037
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Speaker 12: you can't get what you've deserved.

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Speaker 2: Keyan Clark in China last week, you are the ex

1039
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Speaker 2: Prime minister and you were invited to a similar thing.

1040
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Speaker 2: Would you go?

1041
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 12: No, Personally, I wouldn't know. I think why, Well, I

1042
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Speaker 12: think once I leave politics, you know i'll be I'm

1043
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Speaker 12: not in politics, so yeah, there's no need for me

1044
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Speaker 12: to be involved in that.

1045
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: Would it be my personal call? Did the China thing

1046
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: have anything or would the China thing have anything to

1047
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: do with it? I thought they I thought they both

1048
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 2: made a mistake. They shouldn't have been there.

1049
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

1050
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Speaker 12: Look, I mean I think those are decisions for them

1051
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Speaker 12: to make. I mean, from our point of view, we

1052
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Speaker 12: had representation from our embassy there, as you would expect

1053
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Speaker 12: as to the Australians. But you know, I think if

1054
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Speaker 12: I'd been invited, I wouldn't have.

1055
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Speaker 2: Gone Okay, Paris. Did you watch Peter speech yesterday? I did, Actually, yeah,

1056
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: I read it. It's moderately entertaining. It went for over

1057
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Speaker 2: an hour. He wants out of Paris, Sema wants out

1058
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: of Paris. Sixty six percent of the government want out

1059
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 2: of Paris.

1060
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Speaker 12: How do you handle that, well, I mean the government,

1061
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 12: the coalition government today. I mean they might have different

1062
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 12: party positions going forward, let's see where they get to.

1063
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 12: But you know, the coalition government has made the correct

1064
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 12: assessment that actually, if you want to come out of

1065
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 12: Paris and join Libya, Yemen and Iran and now recently

1066
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Speaker 12: the US is the only four countries that are not

1067
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 12: part of it. That is a massive punishment to our

1068
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 12: farmers and it's going to make all New Zealand is

1069
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 12: poorer because I can tell you what's going to happen

1070
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 12: is that the countries that we compete with and the

1071
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Speaker 12: large multinational countries that we sell our products to, particularly

1072
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Speaker 12: think dairy, they're going to kick us off our shelves.

1073
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 12: They'd like nothing more than that to happen. So we

1074
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Speaker 12: ain't going to punish the farmers and we ain't going

1075
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Speaker 12: to make New Zealand poorer.

1076
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Speaker 2: But equally if it wasn't for the farmers, because your

1077
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: reference trade here and it's tied up in trade deals.

1078
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: But as an exercise in saving the planet, it's not working.

1079
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: I mean that's just a statement of fact, isn't it. Well,

1080
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: I mean we are doing we are prioritizing.

1081
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Speaker 12: Economic growth in this country, and I've been really clear

1082
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 12: about that.

1083
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 18: We can.

1084
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 12: If you look at farming, for example, our farming emissions

1085
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Speaker 12: are coming down. That's because actually our farmers are doing

1086
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Speaker 12: things like you know, the work at lic on breeding programs.

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Speaker 12: There's a whole bunch of technology, genuine technology and innovation.

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Speaker 12: It's making them more productive. So actually we want to

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Speaker 12: be able to you know that we should be able

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Speaker 12: to get more farming done in this country given the

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Speaker 12: land that we've got, and also be able to lower

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Speaker 12: emissions at the same time. And we've got a series

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Speaker 12: of really good pipeline of innovation now under what's called

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Speaker 12: this Agri zero project, stream of real stuff that makes

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Speaker 12: a big difference.

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Speaker 2: So do you still believe in twenty fifty you still

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Speaker 2: believe in that zero twenty.

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Speaker 12: If you look at our if you look at our

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Speaker 12: plans at this point, you know, the latest plan suggested

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Speaker 12: we might even do it six years early, you know.

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Speaker 12: I mean, like, so, what people haven't understood is the

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Speaker 12: agriculture part of it. You know, they have really been

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00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 12: adopting technology, innovation, and actually emissions have been coming down

1104
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Speaker 12: at a great rate. You know, it won't be difficult

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00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 12: for agriculture to deal with it. But you know, I'm

1106
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 12: all I'm just saying is yeah, it's an you know,

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Speaker 12: if you really want to pull it out, I'm telling

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Speaker 12: you right now, it'll be a trade barrier immediately.

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Speaker 2: Okay. The a WUS it wasn't the time last week,

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00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 2: but it was. It was tomorrow last week. The a

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00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 2: WUS thing that turned into a thing. Is the media

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00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 2: against you?

1113
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Speaker 3: Oh?

1114
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Speaker 2: That story was? That story turned weird for reasons I

1115
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: couldn't get my head around, apart from the fact that

1116
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: they don't like you and somehow want to hobble you.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think the point I was, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 12: that's I don't I don't comment on it because I

1119
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 12: just think it's a waste of time. You know, my

1120
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 12: job is to respect of what the media say or think.

1121
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 12: My job is to crack on and actually just find

1122
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 12: a way to win and to find a way to

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00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 12: make sure we get the country sorted. So yeah, I

1124
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 12: mean I had the same reaction. I just looked at

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00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 12: that and I thought, I read the transcript of what

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Speaker 12: you and I talked about, and then I saw all

1127
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 12: the headlines. I saw all the question that came after

1128
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 12: all that. I thought, Jeep, as you know, that's you know,

1129
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 12: we've misread something here. Because the bottom line was that

1130
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 12: was just something that yeah, I'd said, it had been

1131
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 12: flagged for a while.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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Speaker 12: The reality was today was the day that they were

1134
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 12: launching that they were very excited. Was the biggest tech

1135
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 12: conference we had in the country. It was a positive

1136
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 12: story when a multinational wants to invest here, as it

1137
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 12: was a positive story a couple of days later when

1138
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Speaker 12: i Kia announced their opening date and I'd met with

1139
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Speaker 12: the owners of my care in the Netherlands as well

1140
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 12: to talk about Resource Management Act and things that we

1141
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 12: can do to encourage them to do more. You've heard

1142
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Speaker 12: Costco come out on the back of Nicolas stuff saying

1143
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 12: they want to do stuff. So there's some there are

1144
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 12: good things going on, you know, as you know, there's

1145
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 12: some challenges for sure in Auckland, but actually you've got

1146
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 12: to report also the good stuff.

1147
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: Do you worry that people there's a couple of op

1148
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: eds over the weekend. Houghton did one on Friday in

1149
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: The Herald, and you can dismiss Houghton for a while,

1150
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: but then Damien Grant did one yesterday as well. Do

1151
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 2: you worry between that sort of commentary and what we

1152
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 2: saw by way of reaction to the AWS announcement that

1153
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is that you're in trouble.

1154
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 12: No, not at all. I mean I think you know,

1155
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 12: there's nothing. I mean, I don't know Matthew and I

1156
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 12: think I met him twice and at functions or something

1157
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 12: passing through. And yeah, I don't think I've probably ever

1158
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 12: had a good article from Mathew from the very beginning,

1159
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 12: so I wouldn't.

1160
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Speaker 2: I don't.

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00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, I only take advice from people that you know,

1162
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 12: offense from people I take advice from, as I keep saying,

1163
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 12: So for me, it's no problem. So I know why

1164
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 12: I came to politics four years ago was because you

1165
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 12: can sit on the sidelines or you actually get involved

1166
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 12: in actually try and change the joints and actually get it,

1167
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 12: realizing it's potential. So yeah, yeah, I can talk about media,

1168
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 12: whether I get any fear treatment or not, but I

1169
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 12: just think it's not particularly helpful, useful.

1170
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Speaker 2: What's the timeline? Simon Watts refused to come on this

1171
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: program him last week because he was in Australia, yes,

1172
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Speaker 2: doing the two plus given the formal minutes, So he

1173
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: was an australiast his own leadership, and we wanted him

1174
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: on what do we want on about five thirty? I

1175
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 2: think we wanted him on Australian time, acceptable or not?

1176
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Speaker 12: Well, I try and get to you at one thirty

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Speaker 12: in the morning on in Europe, So I think if

1178
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Speaker 12: I can do it, I think all my teams should

1179
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Speaker 12: make the effort to do it well.

1180
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Speaker 2: So because Steven Joyce when he was on the program

1181
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: never missed once and he was in China a number

1182
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: of times, so he was at one or two in

1183
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: the morning, You've been on one or two in the morning.

1184
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: So the message needs to be sent to some ministers

1185
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: that five thirty in the morning is not really that early.

1186
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Speaker 12: After all, I don't know his circumstances. There was genuinely

1187
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Speaker 12: reason why.

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00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what sort of circumstances you can have

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Speaker 2: at five thirty in the morning. That a problem at

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Speaker 2: four thirty every morning you're up at three, so exactly.

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Speaker 2: So I'm glad. I'm glad we got that sort of ad.

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00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 2: Do you worry about the door, about.

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Speaker 12: The New Zealand Dillar about you of well, lack of Yeah,

1194
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 12: A lot of it's about us getting getting our mojo

1195
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 12: Backham and we've got to get those fundamentals moving in

1196
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 12: the right direction. And obviously the low dollars helping us

1197
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 12: with our exports. But as obviously you know, as a

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00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 12: worry on the import side of it.

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Speaker 2: What do you think it should sit out? I don't

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Speaker 2: have a view on that.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I'm sure, yeah, yeah, Should you have a

1202
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 12: view on it?

1203
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: No?

1204
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 12: I think I think I've just got to focus on

1205
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 12: getting the fundamentals right. If I can get as I said,

1206
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 12: inflation and interest rates and growth and unemployment down, that's

1207
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 12: really what I've got to deal with in the dollar

1208
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 12: as in a market mechanism will sort itself out.

1209
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Speaker 18: Alright.

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Speaker 2: Good luck on the walk this afternoon.

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Speaker 12: Thank you mate, Thank you for that making That'll be

1212
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Speaker 12: the next exclusive from ZIB that will be on the

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Speaker 12: news by by the next two minutes.

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Speaker 2: Nice to see you. Thirteen minutes thirteen minutes away from a.

1215
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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power

1216
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Speaker 1: by the News Talks.

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Speaker 4: It be.

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Speaker 2: Money talks, Mic, it's nothing to do with our climate,

1219
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: sitting not to mention floored methodology around me saying it's

1220
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: bluff and bravado. Get out of Paris, Mic. The Paris

1221
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: Agreements a dog. It just needs to change, has become

1222
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: a trade document, not a climate change policy, of which, well,

1223
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: let me come back to that, Mike. We just need

1224
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Speaker 2: to quietly quit Paris. I don't think that's possible somehow, Mike. So,

1225
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Speaker 2: Paris is just the type of extortion scheme the reference

1226
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Speaker 2: of you haven't followed it. It's directly tied into trade

1227
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: deals these days. So in other words, because of our

1228
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: miles and all of that sort of thing, and the

1229
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: amount of stuff we put on a plane and how

1230
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 2: far it goes, it is directly tied in with trade.

1231
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Speaker 2: And we only want to or they only want to

1232
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Speaker 2: trade with countries that are part of the climate change agreement.

1233
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Speaker 2: So we're kind of stuck to a degree. But all

1234
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: I'm flagging here, and you've seen it with David Seymore,

1235
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Speaker 2: you've seen it now with Winston Peters. You've seen it

1236
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: with Kimmi bad Not, You've seen it with Donald Trump,

1237
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: and it's a growing trend globally. And it's not about

1238
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: wanting to save the climate or not wanting to save

1239
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: the climate. It's about doing something tangible that we can

1240
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 2: all agree is working, will work, and can work, as

1241
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: opposed to what it's fast becoming, which is something that

1242
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: is largely a waste of time. So it's a debate

1243
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: for the ages. Now speaking of I don't know the

1244
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: media and the way they deal with luxon at the moment.

1245
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 2: What about the media and David seymoa or come back

1246
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: to this in a moment over the weekend, the digital

1247
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 2: media and I'm talking about the heroll and I'm talking

1248
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 2: about stuff we're dealing with, the situation with David Seymour

1249
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: and his car and a video and if you didn't

1250
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: see it, this was David Seymour undertaking as opposed to overtaking.

1251
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: So I won't bore you witless with the rules of

1252
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: the road. But nevertheless, let me come back with that

1253
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: in the moment nine minutes away.

1254
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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News

1255
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: togs Head vs.

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00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: Like, give up your obsession about ministers doing early morning interviews.

1257
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: Why why would I? All I want is people to

1258
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: get out of bed. If you want to run this country,

1259
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: run it properly, work hard, do long hours, get stuff done,

1260
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Speaker 2: be available to explain yourself. That's all I ask.

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Speaker 10: I think they're just saying they would like just you

1262
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 10: and without them. Oh sorry, they're what they mean.

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Speaker 2: You see, I can fully understand that, right. So is

1264
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: this news? So David Seymour allegedly speeding. Video shows David

1265
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 2: Seymore speeding. The clue is in the bloke's commentary. So

1266
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: if you missed the story, David Seymour in his act car.

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00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 2: If you've never seen David Seymour's act car, it says

1268
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: pink with a painting of himself on the side. It's

1269
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 2: as obvious as it can possibly be. So this guy's

1270
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: not skulking around in some dark tinted windows special vehicle

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00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't really know. It's Seymour. It's got Seymour

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Speaker 2: written on the side, it's got act written on the side,

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00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 2: it's got his photo on the side, and it's pink.

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00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: You can't miss him, guy says, had this guy riding

1275
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: the tailpipe for a good whack on sh one. He

1276
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 2: must have hit the snooze button a few too many

1277
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: times this morning. I gave it a touch of the

1278
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: jendle to gain a bit of distance from him, but

1279
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: it wasn't enough. As soon as there was the slightest gap,

1280
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: he shot up the inside undertook and started tailgating the

1281
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: next in line. He must have been doing twenty over

1282
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: the posted speed limit. People. Obviously this clown posted it

1283
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: to redd it. Now here's the thing. There are clowns

1284
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: all over the road and you see them every day.

1285
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: People who give it a bit of jendle. There are

1286
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: people who are clowns on social media. You're never going

1287
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: to stop that. You can't regulate that.

1288
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 15: It is what it is.

1289
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: What we can do if we just pause long enough

1290
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: to think about it, especially in the media. Is wonder

1291
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: perhaps even allowed to ourselves? Is this news is idiocy

1292
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: posted on social media automatically news? And therefore do I

1293
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: need to run it in my digital outlet if I

1294
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: am staffer run the New Zealand Herald or whoever else

1295
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: ran it? I don't know. Do I really need to

1296
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: make that a thing? Because one of the problems the

1297
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: media has in this country is they've got a credibility

1298
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: issue with the wider public. And when you do that

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff and you make something inconsequential news just

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Speaker 2: because some moron put it on social media, the moment

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Speaker 2: you do that, you distance yourself yet again from the

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Speaker 2: wider public, because the wider public see this for what

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Speaker 2: it is. It's a dumb stitch up by some idiot

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Speaker 2: who gave it a bit of jandle and thought he

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Speaker 2: might like to jump on social media and make a

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Speaker 2: think about it. Let him be, and let social media

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Speaker 2: do their thing, and let's concentrate on more important things,

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Speaker 2: and maybe we can slowly but surely restore some of

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Speaker 2: the credibility that we've so badly lost in recent years.

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Speaker 1: Mike haskame insightful, engaging and vitally the mic hasking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Range Rover leading by example, Use talks dead vs.

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Speaker 11: Sprung Room.

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Speaker 1: It is no wrong, no rong.

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Speaker 11: Con size da win the time for the quarter.

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Speaker 9: As a four time siren sounds.

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Speaker 11: My field goal for daily Cherry Evans is.

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Speaker 2: The difference between the two sides. The Cloud's got it,

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Speaker 2: McCloud is gonna score trying to write four red.

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Speaker 21: And black and they hit fifty and the old blacking

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Speaker 21: the fourteen twenty four given.

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Speaker 11: Take fourteen of the best for the blackst job done.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary Box on the Mike Husking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Spears Finance supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: And Jason Pine good morning, Good Mike, Jason, as good

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Speaker 2: as it gets. Surely what are we talking about?

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Speaker 22: Mike, give us the clue.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm thinking the rugby Jason.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 22: It was a It was a terrific test match. It

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Speaker 22: was a magnificent battle, a lot of great layers to

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Speaker 22: a huge crowd. Arty's one hundredth but of rain to

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Speaker 22: make things a little bit more interesting to defend the fortress. Yeah,

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Speaker 22: it was a terrific occasion. Heaps of South African fans.

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Speaker 22: Uh yeah, not much really that you can complain about.

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Speaker 22: And the the undefeated streak at Eden Park continues.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we spent out. Do you enjoy taking Andrew?

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Speaker 21: I was fantastic.

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Speaker 18: Mind.

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Speaker 21: I mean I've been to a lot of test matches

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Speaker 21: at Eden Park over what nearly thirty years plus. I

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Speaker 21: don't think I've ever seen fans arrive so early. I

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Speaker 21: don't think I've ever seen so many away team jerseys

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Speaker 21: in the crowd or that amount of support for.

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Speaker 11: The away team.

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Speaker 21: And I thought, whoever came up with the idea to

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Speaker 21: have the schools choir door the anthems needs a massive

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Speaker 21: pat on the back. They were simply superb and this outstanding.

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Speaker 21: I mean that I was on the sideline watching the

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Speaker 21: anthems talk about spine tingling and then the Harker. The

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Speaker 21: light show where they dimmed the lights and put the

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Speaker 21: spotlights on the Harker and the anthem singers is a

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Speaker 21: great idea. Just it just had that real buzz to it.

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Speaker 21: When the All Blacks came out to warm up just

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Speaker 21: behind us, they could see the look in their eyes

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Speaker 21: if to say, this is our home turf, we are

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Speaker 21: not going to lose tonight, And that was evident on

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Speaker 21: the field.

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Speaker 2: It was you need to bottle that, Jason, because this

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Speaker 2: is the problem, isn't it. You know, how was it

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Speaker 2: you lose to Argentina, I get it away and all

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Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. But I mean they are capable

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Speaker 2: of clearly beating anybody and being the best side in

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Speaker 2: the world. It's just a matter of bottling that up

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Speaker 2: for the appropriate time, in the appropriate ground, isn't it.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, consistency, isn't it. It's that it's that search for

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Speaker 22: consistency that all elite sports teams are really looking for.

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Speaker 22: And you're right and that the great thing about it

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Speaker 22: is that we get the opportunity now to see whether

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Speaker 22: the All Blacks can do that, because in what five

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Speaker 22: days from now they do it all again. It won't

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Speaker 22: be as big an occasion with everything that sav mentioned,

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Speaker 22: you know, in everything that was wrapped around this this

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Speaker 22: Eden Park thing the other night in Wellington, but it

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Speaker 22: can still be a great opportunity for Scott Robertson and

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Speaker 22: Cod to say, right, we are you know, good enough

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Speaker 22: to win back to back test matches against South Africa

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Speaker 22: put Argentina behind us. Just on Razor as well, Mike,

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Speaker 22: you know he had massive pressure on him last week,

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Speaker 22: you know, watching him in media sessions and and just

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Speaker 22: the way he was he was carrying himself. He was

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Speaker 22: under enormous pressure. You do not want to be the

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Speaker 22: coach who oversees the end of the unbeaten run at

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Speaker 22: Eden Park off the back of being the first coach

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Speaker 22: ever to lose a Test match in Argentina and I

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Speaker 22: saw him afterwards on the field on Saturday night and

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Speaker 22: it was relief and elation on his face, but mainly relief.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fantastic, you know, I watching that.

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Speaker 21: Just on just on the just on the attitude, mic.

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Speaker 21: I think as we've as we've mentioned on the show

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Speaker 21: a thousand times, at that level, it's it's it's the

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Speaker 21: little mental motivational factors that can sometimes win new games.

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Speaker 21: There was obviously the Eden Park factor. Ardie saves one

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01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 21: hundredth can't be underestimated. The guys the players played for him.

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Speaker 16: That's for sure.

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Speaker 11: As well.

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Speaker 21: I think the influence of Sir Wayne Smith during the

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Speaker 21: week can't be underestimated as well, bringing a calming influence

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Speaker 21: to everyone around him. But yeah, just another key challenge

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Speaker 21: is lifting again for Wellington and finding those little motivating

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Speaker 21: factors gain apart from playing for the All Blacks obviously

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Speaker 21: finding those little factors again lift again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly now I said to raise it just last hour.

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Speaker 2: It's like it reminded me of the old days, Jason,

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Speaker 2: Like when you're a kid and New Zealand and rugby

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Speaker 2: was the thing because you didn't have as much to

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01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: do when life wasn't as complicated as it is now.

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Speaker 2: It had that about it, didn't it, Oh?

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Speaker 11: I did?

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Speaker 22: I mean I spent most of last week in Auckland,

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Speaker 22: and you know sometimes when there's a Test match in Auckland,

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Speaker 22: I mean there's so much going on in this city

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Speaker 22: that it can be swallowed up a little bit. But

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Speaker 22: everywhere you went from about Wednesday onwards and certainly on

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Speaker 22: the day and then around Eden Park Sava is right.

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Speaker 22: There were people arriving at sort of three in the

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Speaker 22: afternoon for a seven o'clock cack and so many South

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Speaker 22: African fans, great banter. They really interesting thing one of

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Speaker 22: them said to me on Saturday afternoon was we can

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Speaker 22: still play our best, or we can play our best

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Speaker 22: and still lose to the All Blacks. And I think

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Speaker 22: that's the beauty of this rivalry is that you can

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Speaker 22: be at the top of your game but you might

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Speaker 22: still lose. I'm not saying South Africa were They've got

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Speaker 22: some things to work on, but it was just a

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Speaker 22: brilliant occasion.

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Speaker 2: What are you going to watch the Saturday?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: Have you got a class here?

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Speaker 21: I don't believe Gee, the NRL doesn't make it easy

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Speaker 21: for them, does it? The Warriors a home playoff, a

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Speaker 21: real home playoff. Surely they should have played it on

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Speaker 21: Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: I would have thought so, and avoiding a.

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Speaker 21: Clash with your Okay, different cities, but similar times. I

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Speaker 21: just can't work out why they would person.

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Speaker 2: In the NRL's point of view, what do you care

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Speaker 2: about rugby?

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Speaker 21: We think focus Yeah, they don't care about rugby rugby union.

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01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 21: They want to focus on Sydney too, and yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 21: it's it's frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Brave brief break more in the moment, Jason Pine Andrew Seville,

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Speaker 2: thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 17: It be.

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Speaker 2: Just an update from the police there responding to the

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Speaker 2: serious incident in my tomo. The incident relates to a

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Speaker 2: burglary in the early hours of Monthay morning. There was

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01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 2: a confrontation and a police officer was shot. They were

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: taking the hospital in a serious condition, but they were

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01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: speaking to colleagues at the suspect while shot by police

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01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: and has died. Another person has been taken into custody.

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01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 2: The White Termo Meir John Robinson's been quoted he's been

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Speaker 2: briefed by police on the incident. He would not elaborate

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Speaker 2: without giving too much away. It's reasonably, i would hope,

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Speaker 2: evident as to what we're dealing with here. Seventeen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary barks on the Mike asking breakfast

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01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Andrewseveled Jason Pine with us. So here are the numbers, Fellas,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and sixty eight thousand. These won't be released

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Speaker 2: till late thirty, but I'm breaking the embargo just for

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Speaker 2: you guys. Eight hundred and sixty eight thousand watched it.

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01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 2: Another two hundred thousand they thought or reckon at the bars.

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Speaker 2: So you've got over a million people there, four hundred

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01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: and eighty thousand of those on streaming. So that's the

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Speaker 2: biggest audience for a all black South Africa game since

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Speaker 2: the World Cup of twenty three. So it is still

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Speaker 2: the sport to be reckoned with, which is good. So

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Speaker 2: bit of interest, yeh yeah, exactly. Back Jason to the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: Worse I mean, miserable way to win the season under

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01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 2: different circumstances, would be thrilled. You know, for the thirty

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Speaker 2: one years I followed the side most years to get

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs. You can't believe you luck so you're in.

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Speaker 2: But this year it's a disappointment and we play the

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Speaker 2: Panthers and you know, can we beat them?

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Speaker 17: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Will we.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Tough, real tough.

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Speaker 22: And you're right, Mike. I mean if you'd said at

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Speaker 22: the start of the season, I think I said this

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01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 22: a couple of weeks ago, said to Warriors fans, will

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01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 22: finished sixth, They would have taken that in a heartbeat,

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01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 22: absolute heartbeat. But given the way they were playing in

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Speaker 22: the middle part of the season, just before the injuries,

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01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 22: when Luke Metcalf got injured, you know, and this was

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01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 22: a top four side for a long time. And now

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01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 22: we're looking at a situation where maybe the season's only

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01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 22: elongated by one week. Because the Panthers, as we know what,

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01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 22: full time defending champions. They might not be the force

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01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 22: they have been in recent years, but they're still a

1494
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 22: tough proposition. And the Warriors kind of limp into the

1495
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 22: playoffs off the back of two straight defeats to teams

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Speaker 22: who aren't even in the top so look yeah, but

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Speaker 22: on the flip side, you say, right, you clean the slate.

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Speaker 22: It's a new season of sorts, a short season. You've

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Speaker 22: got nothing to lose, petition now, nothing to lose.

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Speaker 2: I'd go healthy that you got the problem.

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01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 21: The problem is you have nothing to lose. Yeah, but

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01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 21: the problem is might the way they're playing, they could

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01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 21: probably be beaten by any of the other Skiven teams.

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01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 21: If they're playing anybody.

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Speaker 2: I wish I could play differently. But I think you're right.

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Speaker 21: Well, they've got home advantage. Look, if they were at

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01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 21: full strength home advantage, you give them a chance. It

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01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 21: gets Penrith, but they're missing still obviously a couple of

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01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 21: key players here in the year and Keenrith. Look, as

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Speaker 21: we've discussed them, the mental motivation at this level, Penrith

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01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 21: will be wanting to win the title outside the top there, right,

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01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 21: they haven't done they haven't done that.

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Speaker 2: Right, Say the Panthers beat us and then they go

1514
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: on and win the grietition. Right, that's that's that's the

1515
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 2: greatest premiership victory in the history of rugby league, isn't it.

1516
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 4: Yes?

1517
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 21: Yeah, probably well close, yeah, yeah, I'll give us a chance.

1518
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 10: I'll give us a chance.

1519
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 2: Look of course, well, I mean they'll they'll have some

1520
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 2: players on the field and they'll be a kickoff.

1521
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 22: So you know, Jackson forward back rock was such a

1522
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 22: James z rock o'berry go off again. Man, he's a

1523
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 22: terrible luck. But yeah, Jackson fod back, that's a plus.

1524
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 22: Who knows, big crowd obviously and coming. Shame about the

1525
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 22: class with the all blacks, but they'll still Phillip go

1526
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 22: media on Saturday and who knows?

1527
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 2: Did you see the ren Philly shields sef what I mean?

1528
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 21: Jeez, I saw little snippets of it my year.

1529
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 2: What you were, well, they sort of it's a highlights game.

1530
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 2: It just went ding ding every time he's look ding

1531
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 2: more points points points. This is a I reckon. This

1532
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 2: is another of these eras coming, isn't it? Because if

1533
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 2: you look at the latter Canterbury are very good.

1534
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 21: Yep, they won it for so many years around the

1535
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 21: last couple of season has been a bit wobbly and

1536
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 21: now now is it Tasaman on Sunday?

1537
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't care, it doesn't matter.

1538
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 11: I will win.

1539
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 22: Fair call.

1540
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 2: What's the matter?

1541
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 11: Hey?

1542
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 22: Black black Ferns, Mike black Ferns, forty nil this morning.

1543
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 2: Are you excited honestly, Jason, are you honestly exciting by

1544
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: thrashing after thrashing after thrashing after thrashing. I mean, what

1545
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: a one sided competition?

1546
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 22: Well you're the one this morning. I'm more interested in

1547
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 22: because Ireland have beaten us two of the last three times,

1548
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 22: and to put forty on them and not concede. I

1549
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 22: think it speaks of a team that's some pretty good

1550
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 22: neck And I watched the highlights this morning. Look, it's

1551
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 22: all setting itself up for a final against England, South

1552
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 22: Africa and the quarters probably Canada and the Semis and

1553
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 22: then England in the final. I think hopefully it rams up.

1554
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 22: It's just so difficult to watch at one thirty in

1555
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 22: the morning, isn't it. What terrible time for us over here.

1556
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: Sooner and El correct things.

1557
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 21: Mike is red Bull back?

1558
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 2: No, no they're not. But what the really good story

1559
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: out of this? And if you haven't seen the game,

1560
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 2: well they might be. He might be Red Bull aren't back?

1561
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: I mean verstappens the thing. It's not the red Bull.

1562
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: They swapped McLaren swapped Norris and Pastree for no other

1563
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: reason than Norris had a bad pit stop, and so

1564
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 2: they said to be Astre, swap back places. Pastre quite

1565
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 2: rightly goes why and they said, well, we had a

1566
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: bad pit stop and so we need him to come

1567
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: second so that we can close up the gap in

1568
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 2: the race. I mean, that's just that's rigging the sport,

1569
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: isn't it.

1570
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 18: Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

1571
01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 21: And the other question for you is the most over

1572
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 21: rated sports franchise in the world, your team, the Dallas Cowboys.

1573
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 21: Are they going to suck again?

1574
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: Yeah? They are. They do suck. They No one sucks

1575
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: more consistently than the Devils Cowboys. I watched that game.

1576
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: Here's the problem with the YouTube. I watched the other

1577
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: YouTube game, which was the Chiefs and the Chargers charges

1578
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 2: one in Brazil. So that was a boilover. But more importantly,

1579
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 2: these people who are buying these games, they've got no

1580
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: talent in terms of commentary, because all the commentary talent

1581
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 2: is you know, it's like you, Jason, It's like you know.

1582
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: TV three gets a bit of rugby and they need

1583
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 2: the top man. It's you, and you're tied up, You're

1584
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: in contract. Pardon so they hire some I'm sorry, Sam,

1585
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: but you know we'd come to you eventually. But what

1586
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 2: I'm saying is what you need to do.

1587
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 21: What you need to do is that nine oh one Yes,

1588
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 21: run down to your Maserati, get in it, race home,

1589
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 21: click on TV and Z Plus and there's game z

1590
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 21: for you on.

1591
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: That games galore mate games go hey quickly. Oh no,

1592
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 2: I don't have time. I'll have to raise it after break.

1593
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 2: Nice to see you guys.

1594
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 11: I'll have to. I'll have to.

1595
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: I'll have to offer a commentary on my own comment

1596
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 2: that should be exciting. Andrew Sevil Jason fin eight twenty two.

1597
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking, Greg Best, Where's Rainthrowver News Togs, dead

1598
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: Beat A.

1599
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 2: Twenty five of news talks. That'd be what I was

1600
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 2: going to mention the lads, but don't have time. By

1601
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,839
Speaker 2: the way, as speaking of the NFL, Rogers who started

1602
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 2: Aaron started with the Steelers this morning beat the Jets

1603
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: and he used to play for the Jets, so there

1604
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 2: was a thing, you know, a little free song. Anyway,

1605
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 2: they won, so that's exciting. Michael Checker is lying or

1606
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: being lined up for the Newcastle League side as a coach.

1607
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: Is that weird? Can you go from just answer me?

1608
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: Name me somebody high profile who's coached in rugby at

1609
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: the highest level of the sport and has switched to

1610
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: another code and been successful at that. Who's done that?

1611
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: I can't think of anybody. Can you think of anybody

1612
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 2: who's done that. No one's done that. Anyway, he's been

1613
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 2: lined up for Newcastle as their as their new coach.

1614
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: Strange business. Aaron Patterson gets sentenced today in Victoria. There

1615
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 2: was one I was reading over the weekend. I can't

1616
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 2: remember the exact sad but I think there's only one

1617
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 2: woman in Australian history who's been sentenced to jail with

1618
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: no possibility of parole, the suggestion being it could happen

1619
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 2: again today, so she'll get sentenced. We'll go to Steve Price.

1620
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 2: And speaking of Steve, he will be I don't know

1621
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: if he's up early enough to watch the f one.

1622
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: But the McLaren thing with Piastre and Norris, that's stacking

1623
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 2: the game. And the reason they put Norris back in

1624
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: front of pstre is because Norris had the bad pitch stop.

1625
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 2: But they want to close the gap in the championship

1626
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 2: race and I would have thought Pastre he must be

1627
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 2: absolutely ropable about that. But anyway, Steve price will be

1628
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 2: able to come on Shelton and goes saying, I'm just

1629
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: saying to stitch up. The whole thing's to stitch up.

1630
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 2: And he's right, he said at first.

1631
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 4: News, opinion and everything in between.

1632
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking break best with Bailey's real estate covering

1633
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: all your real estate need news tog dead be.

1634
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: Someone says and Andy Farrell coaches Ireland and rugby but

1635
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 2: played rugby league. That's not what I'm asking. I'm talking

1636
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 2: about a coach in rugby league and a coach in

1637
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 2: the Union. A lot of you said Allan Jones and

1638
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: Wayne Bennett's your other one, primarily rugby league, but also

1639
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 2: coach the England Rugby Union siders defense coach. That's not

1640
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: the same either. I'm talking about head coach to head coach,

1641
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: So I think I'm right. Where did Jones go in league?

1642
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: I can't remember where he was in league? Was that

1643
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: the rabbit Oz for a period of time, I can't remember.

1644
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 10: I mean he coached everybody how to do talk radio

1645
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 10: for a while.

1646
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 2: That is true. But also the other one is for

1647
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: all of you who said Ted Lasso, that's not real.

1648
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away from.

1649
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 16: Nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1650
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 16: mind for New Zealand business.

1651
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 2: Steve Price as well, Stephen, A very good morning to you.

1652
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 18: Balmain Tigers is where.

1653
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 2: He was what he was to the Belmain Tigers. That's right.

1654
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 2: But you can't think of anyone off the top of

1655
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 2: your head. I'm talking about Michael Checker is allegedly lined

1656
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 2: up for one of the league jobs. And so I

1657
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 2: was just trying to think of a coach at the

1658
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: highest level, head coach in union and in the league

1659
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,799
Speaker 2: and outside of Jones, I can't think of anybody.

1660
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 18: Allen would be the one be exactly.

1661
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,919
Speaker 2: The level of interest obviously in the trial was enormous,

1662
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 2: same level of interest today in the sentencing.

1663
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 18: Yeah, Aaron Patterson we talk of of course, she's fifty

1664
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,839
Speaker 18: years old. She has been found guilty of murdering Don Patterson,

1665
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 18: Gail Patterson, Heather Wilkinson and tempting to murder pastor Ian Wilkinson.

1666
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 18: The reason I raise that is we get lost in

1667
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 18: all of this stuff, but she cooked up beef Wellington,

1668
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 18: used deathcat mushrooms in the recipe, and those three people

1669
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 18: dead and the survivor is still around now. Her sentencing

1670
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 18: will be at eleven thirty your time, and in a

1671
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 18: rare breakward tradition, it'll be televised live in Australia. There's

1672
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 18: a TV camera in the court. It will be completely

1673
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 18: focused on the Supreme Court justice and not anybody else,

1674
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 18: including you. Will not see the face. I don't believe

1675
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 18: Aaron Pattison. Now this case has huge interest. If she

1676
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 18: is sentenced to as can happen in Victoria life without parole,

1677
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 18: she would become only the second woman to be sentenced

1678
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 18: in that way in Australia. Now, I can't even tell

1679
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 18: you what the other woman did because of the time

1680
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 18: of day were speaking. But she was an avataur worker.

1681
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 18: Catherine Knight stabbed at in fact her husband John Price

1682
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 18: thirty seven times. I won't give you any more detail.

1683
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 18: She was handed a non parole period. Now Patterson could

1684
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 18: get this non parole period of more than thirty two years,

1685
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,919
Speaker 18: she'd become the longest sentence of a female killer in Victoria.

1686
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 18: That's currently a Chinese woman who is in jail also

1687
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 18: for murdering her former lover's wife. So we'll see what

1688
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 18: happens at a nine thirty out time eleventh thirty real time,

1689
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 18: but most people would expect she gets life without parole.

1690
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: And then we come to the youth crime thing. So

1691
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 2: we've got the lives now taken up a twelve and

1692
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 2: fifteen year old. For goodness sake, tell you you're right,

1693
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 2: Mike Bush has got his work cut out from isn't he?

1694
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 18: Has he? Ever, they were on their way home. There's

1695
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 18: two boys from an African family in the western suburbs

1696
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 18: of Melbourne. They played basketball at a local stadium, took

1697
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 18: a bus two stops and jumped off and they were

1698
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 18: simply walking home and they were set upon by a

1699
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 18: group gang of eight armed with machetes. Now, the machete law,

1700
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 18: of course, came in on September one. You and I

1701
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 18: might have talked about that it's going to do nothing

1702
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 18: to stop this sort of crime. I mean, who thinks

1703
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 18: that any of that eight group who attacked these two

1704
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 18: boys and killed them are going to turn up down

1705
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 18: at the local police station and give them a machete.

1706
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 18: They're not going to do that. And the worst thing

1707
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 18: about this case is that it appears that the two

1708
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 18: boys twelve and fifteen, were mistaken identity, that they weren't

1709
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 18: in fact part of a gang. They were simply walking

1710
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 18: home from basketball. I do know with some interest that

1711
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 18: the police have now broken ranks with the government. You

1712
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 18: and I've been waiting for this to happen for a

1713
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 18: long time. They wheeled out, probably at the behest of

1714
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 18: your former New Zealand Police commissioner. They willed out a

1715
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 18: police officer yesterday, Detective Inspector Graham Banks. He said, look,

1716
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 18: this is a significant issue we've got in the community.

1717
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 18: The police's position has always been there needs to be

1718
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 18: strong to terrant the balance. Whether the balance is right

1719
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 18: is a matter for community in the courts. But I

1720
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 18: stand here before you. I think the penalties are not

1721
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 18: in balance with what the community expectations are or mine

1722
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 18: tough copper getting tougher.

1723
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 2: Good not too soon either. Now, then we come to Dizzy,

1724
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 2: Who's He's obviously getting a lot of help, isn't he.

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Speaker 18: You would think so, Desi Freeman. Of course, they announced

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Speaker 18: at the weekend that there would be a million dollar

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Speaker 18: reward for any information that leads to the arrest of

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Speaker 18: Daisi Freeman. Now, Freeman's been on the run for two weeks.

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Speaker 18: As you said, we probably all presume that he is

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Speaker 18: getting some sort of help his son spoke out yesterday.

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Speaker 18: He said his dad was a bit like Rambow and

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Speaker 18: he could go for weeks with quote without food. His

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Speaker 18: name is CoA. Freeman passed on his condolences to the

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Speaker 18: slain police. That doesn't help too many people, he said,

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Speaker 18: on behalf of myself and that family. Our hearts go

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Speaker 18: out to them. Freeman's obviously either hold up somewhere with

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Speaker 18: someone helping him, or he got quickly got out of

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Speaker 18: the area hidden in a vide can I mean, or

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01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 18: he's dead or you know, one of those things. But

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Speaker 18: when you think about it, Mike posting a million dollar bounty.

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Speaker 18: Police were then quickly had to have another media conference

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Speaker 18: and say, look, we do not want vigilantes out there looking.

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Speaker 2: For it exactly.

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Speaker 18: So they're obviously, you know, the money is so significant

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Speaker 18: that they're worried someone's going to go and try and

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Speaker 18: find you.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I got you. I've right over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: This is interesting. Elbow's got such a just is this

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01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: going to happen? Is all I want to know. He's

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01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 2: looking and it hasn't been since I think it was

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01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 2: Hawk's time. He's looking, expanding the number of MP's in

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Speaker 2: the House and that's obviously controversial, and they did a

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Speaker 2: little while back and that didn't quite get it. He's

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Speaker 2: got another where he's got such a majority, such power

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Speaker 2: that he's going to have another crack. Do you think

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Speaker 2: that's possible or not?

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Speaker 18: Probably? I mean, given the population of Australia, how quickly

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Speaker 18: it's expanding, the number of migrants we're taking in in

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01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 18: any given year, there is probably two little too few

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Speaker 18: seats for the size of the population that we have,

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Speaker 18: particularly in Sydney, in Melbourne. He might have a crack

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Speaker 18: at it.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. I probably owe you some sort of apology because

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Speaker 2: I mean, you call it very early on in the

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Speaker 2: F one. But I was watching it and they cocked

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Speaker 2: up Norris's pit stop and they said, Oscar, can you

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01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 2: let Norris pass please? That'll be nice if he could

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01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 2: come second and you could come third. And that's just

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Speaker 2: rigging the sport.

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Speaker 18: It's cheating. And I told you they'd do this. Most

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Speaker 18: of those pit crews and the people that run Formula

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Speaker 18: one of British, as you know, Lando's British. They don't

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Speaker 18: want Australian to win. They'll do everything they can to

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Speaker 18: give points to Lando Norris and get him ahead of

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Speaker 18: Oscar Piastre, and there it played out. Why is it

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Speaker 18: Oscar's fault that some let can't put a tire on

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Speaker 18: properly with a ratchet gun? It's not and he should

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Speaker 18: not have had the letting pass.

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Speaker 2: And what do you do with your Oscar? I mean

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Speaker 2: you're on the radio, You've got to sort of go.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand, but I mean, but behind the scenes

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Speaker 2: you must be ropable.

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Speaker 11: Isn't it.

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Speaker 18: I'd do what probably Max for Staffam would do, or

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Speaker 18: what Michael Schumacher would have done, and told them to

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Speaker 18: go nowhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, mate, we'll see you Wednesday. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it's an interesting thing. So they're looking

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Speaker 2: at we have is it thirty something thousand ish per

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Speaker 2: electorate in this country? Queensland is the Queensland seat of

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Speaker 2: Longman is the largest seat in austraight as one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty three thousand, five hundred and twenty seven in

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Speaker 2: the electric for one MP for one hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: three thousand, five hundred and twenty seven people, more than

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Speaker 2: the third of the nation's electorates, and there's one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty of them have at least one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty thousand voters, in hence the desire to make the

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Speaker 2: parliament a bit bigger. Eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks at B.

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Speaker 2: Twelve away from nine. I referred to this earlier on

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Speaker 2: in the program. If you didn't read it over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: I think it might have even been Friday. Anyway, this ongoing,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to call it a scandal,

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Speaker 2: but certainly just a shambles. As with quickly and or

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Speaker 2: running the Reserve Bank. This goes back and it's just

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Speaker 2: it's almost death by a thousand cuts, even though they're

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Speaker 2: all gone now. But I still maintain that all owesers

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Speaker 2: a public explanation given he got some money to walk away,

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Speaker 2: and he packed a mass of sad about the funding.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, it goes back to the funding. So the

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Speaker 2: bank goes to the government, goes, we need a billion

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Speaker 2: dollars please over a number of years, five years to

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Speaker 2: run our organization. The government comes back and goes, it's

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Speaker 2: not happening. Let's be realistic about this, at which point

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Speaker 2: all stamps his feed up and down and has a

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Speaker 2: big tanty and then the quickly the board chair has

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Speaker 2: to write to him say can you please not stamp

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Speaker 2: your feet up and down and pack a big sad

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Speaker 2: it's not very professional. Whole thing implodes and he gets

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Speaker 2: a check to go away. He's never been heard from anyway.

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Speaker 2: As part of their argument this is the latest development.

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Speaker 2: As part of their argument as to how they came

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Speaker 2: up with the numbers that they needed so desperately to

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Speaker 2: run their organization, genotips Trainee reveals that the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 2: added forty million dollars of underspends from previous years to

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Speaker 2: what it had planned to spend in twenty four to

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Speaker 2: twenty five. The bank had more funds because Grant Robertson

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Speaker 2: approved its request for funding top ups. I mean Grant

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Speaker 2: approved anything you wanted, so if you wanted some money,

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Speaker 2: you could have some money. So they had so much

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Speaker 2: money they literally didn't know what to do with it.

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Speaker 2: So they took the money they hadn't spent and they

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Speaker 2: added it into their budget and they said, so this

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Speaker 2: is how we get to the number we got to.

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Speaker 2: That's not the worst part noted it assumed funding would

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Speaker 2: need to be adjusted to account for an inflation rate.

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Speaker 2: This is the Reserve Bank. What's the reserve bank in

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Speaker 2: charge of inflation? It noted it assumed funding would need

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Speaker 2: to be adjusted to account for annual inflation, So it said, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, you've got to take into account anyal inflation.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, what did they count annual inflation at three

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Speaker 2: point six percent? At which point somebody went, aren't you

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Speaker 2: the guys in charge of inflation? And what's the band?

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Speaker 2: You run inflation at zero to three? And yet you're

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Speaker 2: telling us it's a three point six and it's going

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Speaker 2: to be at three point six, and so you need

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Speaker 2: five years worth of funding in excess of the very

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Speaker 2: band you're in charge of. It said, a disproportionate number

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Speaker 2: of resources have been concentrated at the upper echelons of management.

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Speaker 2: This is treasury. The Reserve Bank was not sufficiently considering

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Speaker 2: reprioritization opportunities such as downsizing non legislative functions. They also

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01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 2: said the sum of the bank said it needed for

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01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 2: capital expenditure, including twenty two million dollars for ambiguous contingencies

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01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: slush fund. Now, hopefully fingers crossed, they've got this under

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01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 2: control now and all's gone and quickly's gone. But when

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01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 2: you're asking for money at a greater rate than the

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Speaker 2: very thing that you're in charge of, something seriously seriously wrong,

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Speaker 2: and you and I is always a paying for it.

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Speaker 1: Nine to nine, The Make Asking Breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 1: Estate news Dogs. They'd be White Lotus Europe apparently France

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Speaker 1: for the fourth season, the Grand Hotel de cap Farratt.

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Speaker 1: It's proximity to can people know it? It's got a

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Speaker 1: certain allure about it, So that's nice. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: not confirmed, but you know what these things are like.

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Speaker 1: I thought cosin NEWI was lacked a certain something to

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Speaker 1: be fair, didn't have the same asjuis de vive about it.

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Speaker 2: If you're interested in that. I watched the Paper, by

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Speaker 2: the way, I think on Friday we previewed the paper.

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Speaker 2: Was it Friday? It's no good, It's it's okay, It's

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Speaker 2: it's got that classic. The papers are kind of a

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Speaker 2: rehash of the Office. The original Office was good, The

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Speaker 2: American Office was fine, but the paper is a version

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Speaker 2: of that. It's I wouldn't be back. I watched the

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Speaker 2: first episode. I thought, nah, I regret. I don't know

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Speaker 2: we recommended it? Did we recommend it? We said it

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Speaker 2: was on. It's not the same as a recommendation. Make

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Speaker 2: up your own mind, but I'm saving you the time.

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Speaker 2: You there's a lot of buzz around. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people got excited about it, a lot of media got

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Speaker 2: excited about it, but what do they know? Six away

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Speaker 2: from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending Now we have the chemist warehouse. If praise it

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Speaker 1: would sale on.

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Speaker 2: Now what was funny is Cadie showed me this on

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Speaker 2: the way home from the country yesterday. She goes, look

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Speaker 2: at this, this is funny. It's an interview and it was.

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Speaker 2: It's funnier without Have you beeped a dark Glynn? Oh good,

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01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 2: it's funnier without it. You okay, it's funni you're without

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Speaker 2: the beefing. But I almost drove off the road wedding

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Speaker 2: my pants. It's an interview with an Australian mining company

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Speaker 2: owner called Jerry Norton. Anyway, he's talking to a foreign

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Speaker 2: news crew who've asked him about how the electrification of

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Speaker 2: the world in what it does for business.

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Speaker 5: Well, we have coal because we've got the biggest col

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Speaker 5: deposits in the world, but we're not allowed around the

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Speaker 5: start say the worlds is it really it's all right

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Speaker 5: to be idealistic, but you also have to be realistic.

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Speaker 5: And until the lights go out, the idiots that want

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Speaker 5: to be green on everything and not do mining, not

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Speaker 5: do col not do anything, they're going to have to

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Speaker 5: go back in years, can handles and live in tents

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Speaker 5: and then they'll no. You might working laugh, but it's true.

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Speaker 5: Are you understand what I'm talking about. I'm not talking bullshit,

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Speaker 5: I'm talking realities. If we don't get realistic, it's as

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Speaker 5: simple as that, we're not allowed to use uranium. We've

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Speaker 5: got the biggest uranium deposits in the world in Australia.

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Speaker 5: We're not allowed mine looking stuff. So it's all so

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01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 5: when half these things die, well the wild will be

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Speaker 5: a better place and then those of us that survive

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Speaker 5: will let get it going again. My next door neighbor

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Speaker 5: was talking to him. He's a lawyer, so he's not

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Speaker 5: an idiot. Well he is a WHI but that's another problem.

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Speaker 5: But he said, oh, you just put plugs along the highway.

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Speaker 5: So I said, but if you haven't got a source

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Speaker 5: from a power station, plugs on the highways aren't going

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Speaker 5: to do jack shit, right, do you understand me? The

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Speaker 5: people don't understand. They think the electricity comes out of

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Speaker 5: in space. But if you haven't got a charging system,

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Speaker 5: which is a steam coal burning power station, how the

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Speaker 5: can you charge your batteries?

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Speaker 19: Do you understand that?

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Speaker 5: Well, there's a lot of the and that's the problem

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Speaker 5: with the world.

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Speaker 10: So there's a couple of problems there. You've used up

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Speaker 10: your bleep allowance the rest.

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Speaker 17: Of the year.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: It's brilliant though, isn't it.

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Speaker 10: And also, so you were being shown this while you

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Speaker 10: were driving back while, so you're basically this is like

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Speaker 10: if somebody had seen you, if I had a David Seymour.

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Speaker 2: I probably undertook somebody at the same time.

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Speaker 10: You were whitting your pants while driving, literally with my pens.

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Speaker 2: While driving, and probably doing over the speed limit as well. Mike,

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Speaker 2: you did better than me. I gave the paper four minutes.

1937
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Speaker 2: There you go, each to their own no way. Anyway,

1938
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Speaker 2: we're on their way for the week back tomorrow morning

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Speaker 2: from six Happy.

1940
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1941
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