1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Jamie McKay is with us. Jamie is hosted The Country 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: of course here on Newstalk MB and we were talking 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: yesterday about a whole bunch of stuff to do with Fonterra. 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: So we'll get into this now. Jamie's with us. 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Hi, Jamie, Good evening, Ryan. 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Now Fonterra is just going from strength to strength. We 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: had a bit on this on the show yesterday, but 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: you put it in perspective for us, how well are 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: they doing well? 10 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: They're doing very well, and I think the farmers are 11 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: going to do pretty well this year as well. I 12 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: guess it's more good news for dairy farmers. On top 13 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: of what you discussed yesterday about that full year earnings 14 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: guidance being lifted to fifty five to seventy five cents 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: per share. Remembering this is on top of a ten 16 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: dollars fore cast milk price, they're going to effectively have 17 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: a dividend by my calculation, any anyhow of anywhere between 18 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: thirty three and sixty cents. If it gets to sixty cents, 19 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: it'll be the best dividend than Fonterra's history. The previous 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: best was fifty five cents, and the season just being 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty four, and to put that ten dollar 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: milk price ryan into some sort of historic perspective, the 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: previous best was nine dollars thirty in the twenty one 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: twenty two season, but it's generally considered that the eight 25 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 2: dollars forty payout way back in twenty thirteen fourteen, more 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: than a decade ago, is the best inflation adjusted milk 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: price in Fonterra's history. And just having a look at 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: that share price earlier this afternoon, it was trading at 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: four dollars eighty six. The Fonterra co Op farmer share price, 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: this is the one that the farmers trade amongst themselves. 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: It was languishing at just over two dollars in November 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, so it's more than doubled in the 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: past year, and you would have to say Fonterra farmers 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: had got to be pretty happy with the direction Miles 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: Hurrell and Peter McBride are driving the cooperative. 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and not just dairy of course, beef as well. 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: We had a good second half last year and actually 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: a good start to twenty twenty five as well for 39 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: farmgate beef pricing. 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: Well, despite Donald Trump beef prices Ryan, are at a 41 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: record highs and they look like maintaining that tat Trump 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: and his tariff's aside, certainly through this season. And I 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: was talking to Jen Corchran out of Rabobank. They've just 44 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: released their Q one beef quarterly report. She's saying that 45 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: it's going to take three or four years to rebuild 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: that US herd after all the issues they've had over 47 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: there with drought and all that sort of stuff. So 48 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 2: the prospect for beef for beef farmers in this country 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: is pretty strong for the next three to four seasons. 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: Despite that global beef production is contracting a wee bit. 51 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: And also here in New Zealand, we're expecting our beef 52 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: production to be down around five to six percent from 53 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: year on year quarter one twenty twenty four, and that's 54 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: partly because of the fallout of fewer beef carts being 55 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: read a couple of years ago when the prices weren't 56 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: too flashed. So I can tell you Ryan, there'll be 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: lots of beefcarts red I would imagine in New Zealand 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: this season because they're going to be worth gold. 59 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: And just finding you've got some receipts from the biggest 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: carbon emitters in the world. How do our cows burping rank? 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think our cow's burping aren't even a problem. 62 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: I mean I have said all along, or argued all along, Ryan, 63 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: that our farmers are carbon neutral, if not carbon positive. 64 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: We're not counting everything on farm that sequesters carbon. Yes, 65 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: we count the vegetation, the trees. We're not counting the 66 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: grass or the soil. We won't go down that track today. 67 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: But I came across an interesting fact that half of 68 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: the world's climate heating carbon emissions come from the fossil 69 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: fuels produced by just thirty six companies. Those thirty six 70 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: major fossil fuel companies were responsible for more than twenty 71 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: billion tons of CO two emissions in twenty twenty three. 72 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: Listen to this one. If Saudi Aramco was a country, 73 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: the big fossil fuel company, if it was a country, 74 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: it would be the fourth biggest polluter in the world, 75 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: after China, the US, and India. While if Exon Mobile 76 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: was responsible was a country, it would be responsible for 77 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: about the same emissions as Germany, the world's ninth biggest polluter. 78 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: So I've said all along, Rhine and no one's changing 79 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: my mind. Methane emitting ruminants aren't the problem. It's man 80 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: and woman burning fossil fuels. 81 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Jamie, thank you for that. 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