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Speaker 1: Pro pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's

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Speaker 1: Heather duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else news doorgs Heavy.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon, Welcome to the show Coming up today. Israel's parliament

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Speaker 2: has said yes to the peace deal. The Israeli ambassadors

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Speaker 2: with us after five, Chrishpkins is kicking off over the

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Speaker 2: government wanting to cash up on Chorus Chippies with us

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Speaker 2: after five as well, and another coroner has warned against

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Speaker 2: temporary backyard pools.

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Speaker 3: Heather duplicy Ellen, Yes, it's.

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Speaker 2: Weird that it takes a princess to warn us about this.

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Speaker 2: But Kate Middleton has warned parents against phones at the

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Speaker 2: dinner table. She's written an essay in collaboration with a

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Speaker 2: Harvard Medical School professor about the dangers of smartphones and

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Speaker 2: social media eroding family connections. She says, when we check

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Speaker 2: our phones during conversations, scroll through social media during family dinners,

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Speaker 2: or respond to emails while playing with our children, we're

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Speaker 2: not just being distracted. We are withdrawing the basic form

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Speaker 2: of love that human connection requires. And she then goes

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Speaker 2: on to say families must quote protect sacred spaces for

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Speaker 2: genuine connection, family dinners, conversations, moments of genuine eye contact,

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Speaker 2: and engaged listening. Now, some in our office today have

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Speaker 2: accused her of being milk toast and picking the most

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Speaker 2: boring subject on the world to take on. But isn't

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Speaker 2: she actually on to something incredibly important here? The family

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Speaker 2: unit is the most fundamental and important part of society,

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Speaker 2: and teaching our kids as parents is the most important

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Speaker 2: job we have. Role modeling good habits is more important

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Speaker 2: than we realize, good habits that lead to good physical health,

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Speaker 2: good mental health in the future. And yet so many

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Speaker 2: parents are actually distracted by our phones, sitting around scrolling,

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Speaker 2: allowing screens to creep into the time that we should

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Speaker 2: be spending with our kids. You talk to a year

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Speaker 2: they'll tell you that they are seeing some kids who

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Speaker 2: cannot form sentences properly, even at the age of five,

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Speaker 2: talking to their parents, and their parents are presumably doing

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Speaker 2: exactly the same attached to a screen. I have rules

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Speaker 2: in the house. The husbandly husband constantly breaks them and

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Speaker 2: just constantly reminded about them. No phones at the table,

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Speaker 2: no screens in the car. TV time is a treat,

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Speaker 2: is a treat for weekends, in school holidays. For the

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Speaker 2: most part, some exceptions like sickness. You know, you got

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Speaker 2: to bend the rules a wee bit. The kids accept

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Speaker 2: it because they don't know any different. Kate and William

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Speaker 2: have rules in their house. None of their kids have

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Speaker 2: about to qualify for one. You would say, Kate is

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Speaker 2: onto something here. It's probably one of the most insidious

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Speaker 2: issues of our time. Good on her for piping up

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Speaker 2: milk toast or.

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Speaker 3: Not forgever do for Sea Allen.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen nine two is the text number. I love to

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Speaker 2: know what you think about that. Love to know what

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Speaker 2: your rules are actually in the house, because I might

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Speaker 2: steal them from you. Now onto something completely different. New

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Speaker 2: Zealanders are throwing away over one hundred and twenty thousand

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Speaker 2: tons of food every year, and there is a new

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Speaker 2: Gone Good, and it lets customers buy mystery bags of

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Speaker 2: unsold food from cafes and bakeries to help produce food waste.

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Speaker 2: It's from the team behind deliver easy and the CEO,

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Speaker 2: Tim Robinson is with us. Hey Tim, Hey, they're nice

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Speaker 2: to be with it. It's very good to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: So do you have any any phone rules in your house?

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Speaker 4: My daughter's only three and a half, so she hasn't

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, now's the time to start the rules. My

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Speaker 2: But boys are different. Boys are different than girls, Tim listen,

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Speaker 2: So how does this product work? You don't know what

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Speaker 2: you're getting when you buy a mystery bag.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's correct. So I think the premise behind that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what you could? I mean, I might what

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Speaker 4: Yes, So some of the the resuarts can give a

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Speaker 2: And how much cheaper is it?

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Speaker 4: It's a third the price, so it's something that wouldself

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon? There's a market for this, mate?

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Speaker 4: Soday's been crazy, so it looks like there is really.

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Speaker 4: I think we went live, Yeah, we went live at

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Speaker 2: Wow. I mean, because it seems to me there's a

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Speaker 2: I reckon. There must be a market for people who

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Speaker 4: Yeah, literally, like it's a great way to make you a man.

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Speaker 4: A go a bit further, like you're getting it's that

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Speaker 2: And so if you order it today, when does it arrive?

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Speaker 4: So the stores that pick up windows so they'll see it.

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Speaker 4: Not at this point, but it's something we're looking into,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you already see where I'm going with this. Tim,

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much, mate, look after yourself. That's Tim Robinson

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Speaker 2: Delivery Easy CEO. Is it just me or has something

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Speaker 2: have the staples you order every week. Oh man, I

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Speaker 2: my hand. That's trouble, isn't it. Anyway, So there's things

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Speaker 2: Is it looks like I'm going in for two. Hey,

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Speaker 2: if you don't like the clickbait, you're not You've got

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Speaker 2: He's held a private audience with one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: from unfair competition and the degrading practice of so called clickbait.

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Speaker 2: And do you know what I'm kind of there with him?

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Speaker 2: Fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: It's not just you and the groceries. I've had the

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Speaker 2: Jason Pine, host of Weekend Sporters with Us have Piney, Hello, Heather, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so what are our chances as in New Zealander's chances

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Speaker 5: Well, there are six keywis in the race, five main drivers,

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Speaker 5: one co driver. Matt Pain is probably our best chance.

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Speaker 5: Currently second in the overall Supercars Championship behind Brock Phoene.

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Speaker 5: He's co driving with Garth tand and our Tanda knows

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Speaker 5: most recently with Shane van Gisberg, and actually in twenty

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Speaker 2: Back a bit.

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Speaker 5: The key returning heads is Ryan Wood. He was fastest

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for that. Now the All Whites have

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Speaker 2: gone down one nill to Poland. Is that is that

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Speaker 5: Note no, not an upset. Poland a ranked a lot higher.

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Speaker 5: I think what this is is a continuation of a

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Speaker 5: certainly the continuation of a trend with the All Whites

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Speaker 5: They you know, they gave it a good go against

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Speaker 2: Right Piney. I haven't had a chance to talk to

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Speaker 1: Next, digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duper

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Speaker 1: Clan Drive with one New Zealand coverage like no one else.

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Speaker 3: News talks they'd be.

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Speaker 3: It's the world wires on news talks. It'd be drive.

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Speaker 2: So, as I've mentioned, Israel has approved the Gaza ceasefire

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Speaker 9: We're going to see how it all goes, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Over in the States, New York Attorney General Letitia James

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Speaker 7: These charges are baseless, and the president's own public statements

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Speaker 2: And finally, a life size holographic police officer has been

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Dan Mittens, and US correspondents with US Dan welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Heather.

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Speaker 10: Good to be back.

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Speaker 2: It's a long time between drinks. It's good to talk

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Speaker 2: to you. Now talk to me about the Gaza peace deal.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 2: Is it any surprise whatsoever that the Israeli Parliament has

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Speaker 12: You know, President Trump is really big. In just a

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Speaker 12: We hope he proved the deal to release the hostages

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What do you guys rate the chances over in the

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Speaker 2: US though, of him actually taking out the prize?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 12: Boy, I would say it's not great at this one.

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Speaker 12: I think his prospects remain kind of remote, even though

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Speaker 12: he's had a lot of high profile nominations and you know,

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Speaker 12: foreign policy interventions that he's taken credit for. But I think,

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Speaker 12: what the what the when it comes to the Nobel

444
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Speaker 12: Peace Prize. I think what they're looking for are is

445
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Speaker 12: somebody that works quietly or institutions that strengthen goals. And

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Speaker 12: I think the President's record may even work against him

447
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Speaker 12: because he just does not like multilateral institutions. He doesn't

448
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Speaker 12: like you know, he doesn't have global climate change concerns,

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Speaker 12: and that's something that I think the committee takes a

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Speaker 12: takes into consider.

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Speaker 2: Hey, sounds like Letitia James is squaring up for a fight,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: It does, doesn't it.

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Speaker 12: I Mean this all goes back to paperwork in a

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Speaker 12: home that she bought in Virginia that would be her

456
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Speaker 12: second home, and it would give her a favorable loan terms.

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Speaker 12: That's not investment that that's not available for investment properties.

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Speaker 12: And the grand jury returned a couple of felony charges.

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Speaker 12: She's pushing back on this, but Trump has said, you know,

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Speaker 12: he's going to go after the people that he doesn't like,

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Speaker 12: and she's saying, well, this is just political retribution, and

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Speaker 12: I think it's just another one of those people on

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Speaker 12: his list of enemies that he's just sort of checking off.

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Speaker 13: Hm.

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Speaker 1: Hm.

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Speaker 2: That's very much to me. I mean that's it is

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Speaker 2: quite rich from him, isn't it having accused them of

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Speaker 2: and this is all of his enemies after, you know,

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Speaker 2: of coming at him with the law, he's doing very

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Speaker 2: much the same thing.

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Speaker 12: Well he is with his properties. I mean, that's what

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Speaker 12: everybody's been going after him for in the last year.

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Speaker 2: So now is there something in him going to the

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Speaker 2: doctor tomorrow?

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Speaker 3: You know, if you ask him.

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Speaker 12: He's going to say no. But he's going for the

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Speaker 12: second time in six months for a routine yearly check

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Speaker 12: up at Walter Reed Medical Center. And this comes just

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Speaker 12: a few months after he had his last physical examination

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Speaker 12: where he said, you know, everything is great. Nobody's ever

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Speaker 12: seen a cognitive score like mine. So the question is,

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Speaker 12: and why is he going back? I mean, that's what

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Speaker 12: we're wondering. And there's speculation that it may have to

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Speaker 12: do with these patches. And we've seen this, you know,

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Speaker 12: in the paper and on the news that on his

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Speaker 12: hand that he's tried to cover up with makeup. There bruises,

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Speaker 12: big bruises too. And then you've got people on the

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Speaker 12: other side of the aisle that are saying, well, this

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Speaker 12: guy's got dementia, and they're pointing to some of his

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Speaker 12: you know, press conferences and public appearances. But there's no

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Speaker 12: way that that Trump's going to admit this. So he says,

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Speaker 12: you know, I'm going to be in the area. I'm

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Speaker 12: going to stop by, I'm going to talk to some

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Speaker 12: of these doctors right here, and everything's good, he says,

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Speaker 12: there's nothing out of the ordinary.

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Speaker 2: Dan, thanks very much, and look forward to having you

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Speaker 2: back on the show. That's Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent, nineteen

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Speaker 2: away from.

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Speaker 3: Five here the dupless lay.

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Speaker 2: This morning the chap appeared in court who was charged

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Speaker 2: over attacking Winston's house. We have so many questions about this,

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Speaker 2: do you not Why has this guy handed himself in

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Speaker 2: like Polisse say, and then pleaded not guilty to the

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Speaker 2: very thing he apparently handed himself in over? And then

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Speaker 2: why has he been charged with burglary, which I mean

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Speaker 2: which requires you to surely have taken something, But no

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Speaker 2: one said that he's taken. No one's accused him of

508
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Speaker 2: taken taking anything. All we've had is an accusation that

509
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Speaker 2: a window has been broken. So why the burglary judge?

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Speaker 2: But also why is his name suppressed? Because he this

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Speaker 2: is like this is quite an interesting suppression in that

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Speaker 2: not only is his name suppressed, but we are not

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Speaker 2: allowed to know why his name is suppressed. Why Judge

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Speaker 2: Claire Ryan has granted him the interim name supression, which

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Speaker 2: is quite quite unusual. Anyway, he appeared in court this morning.

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Speaker 2: He's entered a not guilty plea. He's elected a trial

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Speaker 2: by jury. So we'll see how this one shakes out now,

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Speaker 2: if you believe Nicky Hager, one of our defense guys

519
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Speaker 2: has been to a Five Eyes conference where the Five

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Speaker 2: Eyes guys were preparing for war with China. And this

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Speaker 2: chapter is take I'm assuming it's a man. It could

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Speaker 2: be a lady, but for the purpose of the story,

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Speaker 2: let's just keep it simple. It's a man taken a

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Speaker 2: bunch of notes and then has accidentally dropped the notes

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Speaker 2: off at an opshop. So what happens, according to Nicki Hager,

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Speaker 2: is that the meeting was in May last year in Portsmouth,

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Speaker 2: and it was a Five Eyes meeting and it was

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Speaker 2: classified as secret. Now secret means unauthorized disclosure would be

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Speaker 2: likely to damage national interest in a serious manner. No

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Speaker 2: electronic devices were allowed into the meeting rooms. None of

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Speaker 2: what was said in the meeting rooms was supposed to

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Speaker 2: reach the public. So we sent the New Zealand Defense

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Speaker 2: Forces Chief Information Officer, Air Commodore Karl Nixon, and along

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Speaker 2: with Carl, we somewhat went a bunch of people, but

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Speaker 2: someone who was taking notes for Carl. That person, apparently,

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Speaker 2: according to Nickky, has very neat handwriting, so it's very

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Speaker 2: easy to read what that person has written down. That

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Speaker 2: person came back to Wellington, took the secret notes home,

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Speaker 2: should have taken them to the Defense Force building, didn't

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Speaker 2: took them home. Nothing happened for a year, and then

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Speaker 2: in August this year, somebody went browsing through a pile

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Speaker 2: of options shop goods at the Hut Valley Salvation Army

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Speaker 2: Store and found the notes. And what the notes show

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Speaker 2: us is that five Eyes is getting ready for war

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Speaker 2: with China. It's setting up a command and control system

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Speaker 2: that allows all of the enemy brackets red and friendly

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Speaker 2: brackets blue military forces to be tracked and then orders

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Speaker 2: to be sent for attacks and so on. And it's

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Speaker 2: supposed to be operational in the next two to five years.

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Speaker 2: Now beyond I mean beyond that, it was all very

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Speaker 2: boring kind of stuff. I don't know. I've got to

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Speaker 2: be honest with you. The revelation in this for me

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Speaker 2: is not the fact that we're preparing for war with China,

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Speaker 2: because obviously we're preparing for war with China, and we

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Speaker 2: would be an idiot if we weren't preparing for war

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Speaker 2: with China, because that's got to be a very real

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Speaker 2: prospect even in the next I'm told by some eighteen

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Speaker 2: months or so, But what is more surprising to me

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Speaker 2: is that it ended up with the what is wrong

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Speaker 2: with us New Zealand. We're going to get ourselves kicked

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Speaker 2: out of five Eyes if they can't even trust us

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Speaker 2: with handwritten notes not ending up but the Sally's, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's just embarrassing. Isn't this like the desk of the

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Speaker 2: Wellington City the mayoral desk that ended up at the

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Speaker 2: tip shop in Wellington? Lord A barv not very good

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Speaker 2: at secrets?

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Speaker 1: Are we quarter to two politics with centrics credit, check

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Speaker 1: your customers and get payments Certaday.

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Speaker 2: Here, the burglary does not require something to be taken.

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Speaker 2: All that is required for a burglary charge is that

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Speaker 2: a person enters any building, all ship, or vehicle unlawfully,

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Speaker 2: with the intent to commit any offense inside that building,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. Thanks for that. Thirteen Away from five Barry

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Speaker 2: so Per, senior political correspondence with US.

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Speaker 14: Hey, Barry, good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: So the three kids who were on the FLOTTA are

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Speaker 2: back in New Zealand.

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Speaker 14: Yes they are, and it was interesting you remember earlier

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Speaker 14: this week Winston said they'll go to Jordan and from

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Speaker 14: there they can make their own way home. But it

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Speaker 14: seems they did get help, but not from the New

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Speaker 14: Zealand government. They did make their own way and arrived

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Speaker 14: this afternoon to an arrival hall full of people wearing

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Speaker 14: the Palestinian scarf and waving the flags, and they were

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Speaker 14: welcomed home like here. As they walked into the arrival hall,

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Speaker 14: the cheers erupted. Yusuf Samour did most of the talking,

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Speaker 14: and he was none too happy with the treatment they

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Speaker 14: got from the Israelis.

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Speaker 15: We were there for almost a week, more or less.

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Speaker 15: It was we were treated like crap. To be honest,

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Speaker 15: we were treated like animals.

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Speaker 16: They could spit on us, which they did.

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Speaker 15: They could points shot guns in our face, which they did,

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Speaker 15: but they realized that they couldn't physically hurt us to

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Speaker 15: a point where it would cause an international outcry. Once

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Speaker 15: we realized we had that power over them, the whole

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Speaker 15: game was over. And at that point we were just

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Speaker 15: annoying to them, and they wanted us out as soon

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Speaker 15: as possible. No thanks to any help from the US,

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Speaker 15: the UK, or the New Zeon consulates, which totally abandoned

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Speaker 15: their citizens.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that's not true.

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Speaker 14: Well, no, I don't think he's right. I think remember

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Speaker 14: Winston said that our impact people would have been working

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Speaker 14: to ensure that these people would receive safe passage out

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Speaker 14: of Israel. And I think that most certainly would have

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Speaker 14: been the k although it may not have been trans

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Speaker 14: the information may not have been transferred to them.

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Speaker 2: Maybe okay, the mark I were just so annoyed having

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Speaker 2: been taken by the very hard. It's hard to feel

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Speaker 2: sorry for these kids and I don't think that they

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Speaker 2: should be.

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Speaker 14: That underest again. At the weekend, Lord.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now the Maori Party reset, you've had a chance

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Speaker 2: to go back and look at it. How much did

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Speaker 2: you enjoy it? Out of ten?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 14: Probably ten?

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Speaker 2: What did you enjoy the bit the most? Where are

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Speaker 2: He pulled Debbie while she was talking away from the microphone.

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Speaker 14: Found it absolutely extraordinary here they were, they were talking

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Speaker 14: about the reset. Their is set basically is that they're

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Speaker 14: going to be nicer and they're going to be more

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Speaker 14: cooperative and less rat infrontational and brash, and they would

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Speaker 14: be seen as a good coalition member with the Labor

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Speaker 14: Party and the Greens. Well that's that's what they're telling

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Speaker 14: us anyway, So they will be behaving themselves. They're not

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Speaker 14: there to present the party as unelectable, which is basically

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Speaker 14: their their reset. Their leadership has been described as you

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Speaker 14: say here, they're like a dictatorship. But it was a

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Speaker 14: topic the co leader, Rollery White to Tea wasn't prepared

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Speaker 14: to discuss. He interrupted, as you've said here there his cohort,

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Speaker 14: Debbie Nariuapeka, as they were asked about.

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Speaker 17: It, the a literas are telling us one thing, as

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Speaker 17: that get your act together, because we do not want

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Speaker 17: this government to stay. And I think and I think

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Speaker 17: that's a real critical part of the reset has actually

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Speaker 17: making it really clear. We've identified who our coalition partners

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Speaker 17: will be, we've identified the common ground, and we've identified

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Speaker 17: and heard that we mustn't let anything jepardize the way

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Speaker 17: that we get this government down Chester.

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Speaker 18: It's what's your.

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Speaker 19: Response to allegations of the dictatorship.

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Speaker 14: Model before that one, you know, no rever Packer was

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Speaker 14: prepared to answer that question. She stood there and his

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Speaker 14: hand came around behind her back and pulled her away.

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Speaker 14: Dictatorship maybe I don't know, but he was certainly dictating.

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Speaker 14: He was dictating the way that that press conference was

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Speaker 14: going to end. And it wasn't a butt to be

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Speaker 14: discussing the way they behave as leaders of the party. Well,

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Speaker 14: he wasn't prepared to discuss it anyway. And I'm sure

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Speaker 14: that she is the peacemaker in this party and she

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Speaker 14: is the one that sees reasonably that they have to

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Speaker 14: be better behaved. Although yesterday's performance in the House was

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Speaker 14: terrible behavior and I think they might find further repercussions

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Speaker 14: as a result of that.

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Speaker 2: What are you suggesting, Oh, I'm.

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Speaker 14: Suggesting that maybe to probably just committee thing again.

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Speaker 20: Have you heard this?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 14: No, Well I've required around the traps and certainly it's

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Speaker 14: not going to be resting on what happened yes today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very very quickly. What happened in the House last night?

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Speaker 14: Well, the most extraordinary thing is it was a simple vote.

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Speaker 6: It was for.

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Speaker 14: Broadcasters or television New Zealand being allowed to not advertise

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Speaker 14: or sorry to advertise.

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Speaker 2: On some obviously considered religious days.

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Speaker 14: Right, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And there wasn't enough people.

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Speaker 14: Well, they're only about thirteen MPs in the House and

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Speaker 14: really most of them because it was the end of

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Speaker 14: the week in Parliament and I've got to say most

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Speaker 14: of the thirteen were labor MPs. So Stuart Smith is

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Speaker 14: the the coalition or the National Party whip didn't obviously

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Speaker 14: whip as the MP's and they were up probably in

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Speaker 14: their officers having a nice class of wine at.

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Speaker 10: The end of the week.

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Speaker 2: Just the one. Barry, thanks very much, Barry Soper, Senior

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Speaker 2: political correspondent. Hey, listen, we need to talk about those

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Speaker 2: backyard temporary pools. Next seven away from.

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Speaker 3: Five, the headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic

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Speaker 3: asking breakfast.

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Speaker 21: Hargy, what chance that this is over? There is peace

685
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Speaker 21: in the Middle East, and you and I for the

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Speaker 21: rest of our lives we'll never talk about conflict in

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Speaker 21: your part of the world ever.

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Speaker 22: Again, I would say almost none. Unfortunately, even if this

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Speaker 22: agreement is completely successful in ending the war and the

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Speaker 22: genocide and Gather, then we will have quiet around Gather,

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Speaker 22: and without any substantial changes of that reality, without justice

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Speaker 22: and liberation for Palestinians across the land, we will just

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Speaker 22: be back where we started and there will be renewed

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Speaker 22: violence in the future.

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Speaker 21: Back Monday from six am, the mic asking breakfast with

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Speaker 21: a land driver, defend and us talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: I actually have realized that I need to ask Chris

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Speaker 2: Hipkins while we've got him, while he's talking about chorus.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me petically my throat while he's talking about chorus.

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Speaker 2: Because I went to the gym today, Can I just

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Speaker 2: say I got a shout out from the instructor so

702
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Speaker 2: because look, you know when you when you were about

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Speaker 2: nine months after having a baby, Let's be honest, you're

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Speaker 2: not looking your best, are you? Like you think you're

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Speaker 2: looking okay, but then it starts getting warmer and you

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Speaker 2: get into your swimsuit and you go, oh, what is

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Speaker 2: going on here? So anyway, I thought, no, I hate

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Speaker 2: the sprint class, which is the one where you go

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Speaker 2: on the bike really fast. I hate it. But I

710
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Speaker 2: was like, just make the most of it. It's half

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Speaker 2: an hour going really fast. Anyway, I was so fast

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Speaker 2: and great that the instructors shouted out and in the

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Speaker 2: back there god work from you. I was like, that's right.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, as a result, I'm struggling to speak now.

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Speaker 2: I've exerted all of my energy and it's a dead

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Speaker 2: zone in my brain right now. Anyway, when Chippy's with

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Speaker 2: us on the chorus thing, we're gonna ask him if

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Speaker 2: the Marlori party has managed to redeem itself and whether

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Speaker 2: he's into them. I think the answer is probably know. Hither,

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Speaker 2: good luck explaining the concept of debt to Chippy while

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Speaker 2: you've got him on. I fear that you were in

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Speaker 2: for a long afternoon. Yes, I've read Grant's book. I

723
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Speaker 2: realize it's a concept not well understood by the labor party. Hither,

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Speaker 2: you're asking the wrong questions. It's not about why the

725
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Speaker 2: secrets ended up at an opshop, it's why on Earth

726
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Speaker 2: five Eyes want to have a go at China. Mate,

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Speaker 2: what planet are you on? China is preparing to take

728
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Speaker 2: over Taiwan. You know that's happening, right, and you know

729
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Speaker 2: that that runs the risk of starting a war. So

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Speaker 2: you either get ready for that war or you're an idiot.

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Speaker 2: That's why Five Eyes is getting ready for the war,

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Speaker 2: whether we like it or not. We can have a

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Speaker 2: debate about whether we want to get involved in that,

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Speaker 2: and I tend to say no. Anyway, from one one

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Speaker 2: potential war to an actual war that's wrapping up hopefully,

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Speaker 2: Fingers cross the Israeli ambassadors with us. Next Newstalks B.

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Speaker 3: The only drive show you can truck to.

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Speaker 1: Ask the questions, get the answers, find a fag sack

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Speaker 1: and give the analysis hither duplicy Ellen drive with one

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Speaker 1: New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile news talks.

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Speaker 2: B afternoon, there is celebration in the streets of the

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Speaker 2: Middle East as a Gaza Ceasepile Dea is taking another

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Speaker 2: step towards being completed. The Israeli cabinet has now signed

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Speaker 2: off on the deal, which would bring an end to

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Speaker 2: two years of brutal war. Alon Roth is the Israeli

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Speaker 2: ambassador to New Zealand and with US hirel.

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Speaker 6: On good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Do we have any clearer idea yet of when the

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Speaker 2: hostages will be out.

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Speaker 10: Here?

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Speaker 6: No, but we know that in seventy two hours they

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Speaker 6: should be out. So I assume if we come from

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Speaker 6: now that on Monday. I mean, I hope that will

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Speaker 6: be released as soon as possible, But on Monday, I

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Speaker 6: hope there will be with us at loss.

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Speaker 2: When do we start counting? Is it from now or

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Speaker 2: is it from when Trump signs the bit of paper

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Speaker 2: or from when the paper was signed on his behalf.

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Speaker 6: I think it's from when the decision was taken. You know,

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Speaker 6: there was a homeless decision and the Israeli government decision. We,

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Speaker 6: for example, begin the immediate redeployment of the Israeli army.

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Speaker 6: The ideas right now, it's going to take something like

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Speaker 6: twenty four hours, So within twenty four hours it has

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Speaker 6: to happen. But as you said, the most important thing

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Speaker 6: for us is the hostages. And this I do hope

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Speaker 6: that until Monday we will be. It will be behind

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Speaker 6: us and there will be in isa Al.

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Speaker 2: And so your understanding of the sequence of events, is

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Speaker 2: it that the troops, the Israeli troops, withdraw to an

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Speaker 2: agreed place first and then the hostages are released.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, it can be.

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Speaker 6: It can be. You know, it's twenty four hours and

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Speaker 6: seventy two hours. It can be in parallel. But they

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Speaker 6: have seventy two hours to release the hostages and we

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Speaker 6: will be redeploying ourselves in twenty four hours. Well, to

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Speaker 6: say truth, the redeployment, as far as I understand, begins

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Speaker 6: to happen.

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Speaker 2: What do you know about these two hundred troops that

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Speaker 2: Trump is sending US troops he is sending to Israel.

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Speaker 2: Where will they be stationed? What are they going to do?

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Speaker 6: No, this is something that is beyond my mandate and knowledge.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now that pace is struck and we were going

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Speaker 2: to work our way through these steps. Would you be

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Speaker 2: comfortable with our government recognizing a Palestinian state?

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Speaker 10: Now?

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Speaker 6: I don't think so, and I think we have people

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Speaker 6: have to read the Trump Lane Trumplane is saying very

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Speaker 6: clearly that first and foremost, the PA, the person authority

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Speaker 6: should reform itself, should stop program like pay for a

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Speaker 6: slave that they're paying for the terrorists, incitement in deed

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Speaker 6: pation system, recognizing as well as the Jewish state, et cetera,

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Speaker 6: et cetera. There are lots of conditions before the discussion

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Speaker 6: is going to begin, if at all. So, I think

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Speaker 6: that the decision that was taken by the New Zealand

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Speaker 6: government was the right one and I don't see any

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Speaker 6: reason to change it now.

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Speaker 2: Alan, thanks for your time. I appreciated alone Roth Israeli Ambassadors.

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Speaker 3: To New Zealand, Heather Do for ce Ellen.

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Speaker 2: The government is looking to free up some cash by

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Speaker 2: selling an investment in Chorus. Now this is money that

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Speaker 2: the government linked Chorus during the Ultra Fast broadband rollout.

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Speaker 2: That rollout is now finished, so the government's looking to

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Speaker 2: on sell that debt. But lab this is an asset style.

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Speaker 2: Chris Hopkins is the labor leader and with us now chippy.

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Speaker 14: Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 2: He's not an asset sale though, is it.

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Speaker 11: Well, a security is an athlet and the government said

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Speaker 11: in the National Party said they weren't going to sell

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Speaker 11: any ethics. Christopher Luxon said, I'm not interested INSS sales.

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Speaker 11: Won't be happening now they're talking about an asset sale.

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Speaker 11: You know, I think they're trying to create some technical

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Speaker 11: distinction that doesn't exist. The security for the government owns

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Speaker 11: our essets.

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Speaker 2: I mean is that that's not really fair though, is it?

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Speaker 2: We would understand in the context of talking about asset sales,

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Speaker 2: how most of us rational voters would understand it is

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Speaker 2: that we own some sort of a company or an

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Speaker 2: entity and we're selling our stake in it. We have

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Speaker 2: no stake in Chorus. We're not selling down a shareholding.

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Speaker 11: Well, we do have a stake in Chorus. We've spent

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Speaker 11: billions of dollars rolling out the broadband and now right

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Speaker 11: at the time when we're the public is going to

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Speaker 11: reap some financial dividend from that in the form of

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Speaker 11: those securities having to be repaid. They want to privatize

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Speaker 11: those profits, so, you know, the public The New Zealand

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Speaker 11: tax payer has already laid out the cost of building

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Speaker 11: the broadband network. That was what these securities have arisen from.

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Speaker 11: Now at the point when we actually start to see

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Speaker 11: some coming back the other way, the government wants to

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Speaker 11: sell the air set off.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is money that would be paid back

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Speaker 2: within the next five to ten years. In any case,

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Speaker 2: what's the problem with bringing it forward?

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Speaker 11: Because the only way that it'll be profitable for somebody

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Speaker 11: to buy them is that we sell them at a discount.

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Speaker 11: Why on earth would we do that when that that

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Speaker 11: is money that would come back to the New Zealand taxpayer.

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Speaker 11: And recognition of the fact the New Zealand taxtpayer pays

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Speaker 11: for the role out of the Brooklem How.

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Speaker 2: Much of a discount was selling it at?

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Speaker 11: Well, no, we don't, but I mean why would anyone

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Speaker 11: buy it?

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Speaker 2: But isn't that material? I mean, if it's a discount

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Speaker 2: of two percent, then hoo cares, let's get the money

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Speaker 2: now and build the schools we need. If it's a

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Speaker 2: discount of thirty percent, well maybe it's a stupid idea, right.

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Speaker 2: So that number is important to know, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: Well you'd have to weigh that up against the alternative

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Speaker 11: costs of financing the things that you are talking about heither,

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Speaker 11: which you know, government can actually access other forms of

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Speaker 11: finance relatively cheaply, so this is likely to not be

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Speaker 11: the chepest way of us financing those things like schools

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Speaker 11: and hospitals you just mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Hey, so are you impressed with the reset from the

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Speaker 2: Maori party yesterday to make you want to have them

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Speaker 2: in your cabinet.

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Speaker 11: I think they've got a little bit of work to do, Heather.

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Speaker 11: I think I think that they probably need to work

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Speaker 11: a little bit on their media relationships.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's that. I mean, there is that.

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Speaker 10: What is it?

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Speaker 2: What part of it? What happened do you think yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Is is this a party that is are like? It

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Speaker 2: seems like they may not be in agreement on where

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Speaker 2: they want to go with us, Like some of them

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Speaker 2: maybe want to want to, you know, tone it down

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Speaker 2: and get in cohotes with you, and the others want

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Speaker 2: to remain radical. Is that how it looks to you?

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Speaker 11: Look, I don't have a read on that, to be honest.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I think, as I said this morning, politicians

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Speaker 11: don't necessarily like some of the questions that we get asked.

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Speaker 11: No politician either stands in front of the media feeling like, oh,

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Speaker 11: these are all great, we want to really enjoy myself,

874
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Speaker 11: but I still need to answer them. Oh look, I'm

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Speaker 11: a bit more relaxed about the Hakker. You know, I've

876
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Speaker 11: seen haker performed at the end of people's maiden speeches

877
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Speaker 11: or valedictory statements before.

878
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Speaker 2: That's nothing new, And it was in breach of an

879
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Speaker 2: agreement with Jerry Wi, wasn't it.

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Speaker 11: I think the big issue there. I mean, I wasn't

881
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Speaker 11: in the house, so I've got to be careful. It's

882
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Speaker 11: commenting on something that I didn't myself. But I think

883
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Speaker 11: the bigger issue there was that she probably went from

884
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Speaker 11: what I gather went on well passed to her time

885
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Speaker 11: allocation and that probably may annoyed your environment more.

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Speaker 2: No, oh well, maybe it's hard to know, but no,

887
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Speaker 2: it seems to have been the hucker Chippy. Thanks as always,

888
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Speaker 2: Chris Hopkins, Labor Party leader Heather Do Whether do I

889
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Speaker 2: missed the bit on the backyard pools? No, you didn't know.

890
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Speaker 2: I just I got distracted talking about my trip to

891
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Speaker 2: the gym. I mean, what's more important not my trip

892
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Speaker 2: to the gym. Actually we're going to talk about the

893
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Speaker 2: backyard pools next with water safety New Zealand. So I'll

894
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Speaker 2: get you all across. There's basically a couple of coroners

895
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896
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Speaker 2: the temporary ones anyway. Just want to bring you up

897
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904
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905
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Speaker 2: You will have caught up on the news by now

929
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Speaker 2: that the flotilla kids have landed in New Zealand a

930
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Speaker 2: couple of hours ago, landed at Auckland Airport. Now we

931
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Speaker 2: earlier like last week, maybe spoke to Adie Leeson. His

932
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Speaker 2: son Samuel, was on the flotilla. Samuel is booked and

933
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Speaker 2: to talk to us after half past So now, now

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Speaker 2: as you I would say, like, let's just say, it's

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Speaker 2: one of those ones that I sort of hesitate to

936
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Speaker 2: tell you is going to happen. I just worry about

937
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Speaker 2: the ability to get someone who's just arrived back in

938
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Speaker 2: the country and is excited to see his family on

939
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Speaker 2: the phone. But we are going to try its state Union.

940
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Speaker 2: We'll see what we can do there. Nineteen past five. Now,

941
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Speaker 2: yet another corridor has expressed concern over temporary backyard pools.

942
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Speaker 2: You know the ones I'm talking about. They've got a

943
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Speaker 2: frame you've got to put up sit above the ground,

944
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Speaker 2: maybe one point two meters or something like that, and

945
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Speaker 2: you fill him up with water. Earlier this year, a

946
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Speaker 2: coroner said they should be banned, and now another has

947
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Speaker 2: said they're a grave hazard after the drowning of a

948
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Speaker 2: twenty month old girl in Napier. Gavin Walker is the

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Speaker 2: acting CEO at Water Safety New Zealand and with us.

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Speaker 23: Hi, Kevin, Hi, there, how are you here?

951
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Speaker 2: I'm well, thank you. Do you think we need to

952
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Speaker 2: ban them?

953
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Speaker 23: Look out of Meier's test is a reminder that unfenced

954
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Speaker 23: pools left towards water in people's backyard can be present

955
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Speaker 23: a real change challenge to young kids. And were we're

956
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Speaker 23: not talking about the small ones. There's small paddling pools

957
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Speaker 23: that we've we've all had. You can easily grab those out,

958
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Speaker 23: fill them up, you spend time with your kids, and

959
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Speaker 23: you turn them upside down and empty them at the end,

960
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Speaker 23: and you just raised We're not talking about about the

961
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Speaker 23: ones that are much bigger, kind of one point two

962
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Speaker 23: meters or greater, because kids can't climb. Young kids can't

963
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 23: climb into that, so they can't get into them supervised.

964
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Speaker 23: But there's been a real proliferation of cheaper options between

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Speaker 23: those two. Some of the can take half a day

966
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Speaker 23: to fill. They're kind of three point six meters across

967
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Speaker 23: and the way steep, and we don't think The law

968
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Speaker 23: in New Zealand says if you buy one of these

969
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Speaker 23: things for a couple of hundred dollars from wherever, from

970
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Speaker 23: Teama or the warehouse or others, it says you should

971
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Speaker 23: get in touch with the council and got a compliant

972
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Speaker 23: poll fence in place, because the risk is the same

973
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Speaker 23: as a permanent pool, but we just don't think anybody's

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Speaker 23: doing that. And so as we see more and more

975
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Speaker 23: of these things in people's backyards, were already starting to

976
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Speaker 23: see increasing deaths of young children. Yeah, and we've learnt

977
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Speaker 23: these hard lessons before. In New Zealand, we made the

978
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Speaker 23: bold call in the eighties to fence our swimming pools

979
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Speaker 23: and we basically eliminated kids drowning in our backyard pools.

980
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Speaker 23: And we're seeing that coming back again.

981
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Speaker 2: So why are we seeing so many of these things?

982
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Speaker 2: Is it simply because they are so much cheaper now

983
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Speaker 2: that you've got the tea moves and so on.

984
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Speaker 23: Yeah, that when the law was developed around fencing of

985
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Speaker 23: swimming pools, the kind of plaster that portable pool product

986
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Speaker 23: didn't exist. And it's really only over the last ten years,

987
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Speaker 23: really the last five years, that this stuff's become really

988
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Speaker 23: prevalent and on the market. And I get it. We've

989
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Speaker 23: got young kids. Parents and grandparents are buying these things

990
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Speaker 23: for the best intentions, but if you leave them unfenced

991
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Speaker 23: in your backyard, something can easily happen for young children.

992
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Speaker 23: And we're just asking people to think, we're certainly asking

993
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Speaker 23: government to go why do we have to have these

994
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Speaker 23: things available in New Zealand. There's lots of other options

995
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Speaker 23: bigger pools, smaller pools, slip and slides, take your kids

996
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Speaker 23: to the beach or river. And in the absence of that,

997
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Speaker 23: we're asking parents, grandparents and others to think through these purchases.

998
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Speaker 23: If you don't think you can fence them, don't buy them.

999
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Speaker 2: Gavin, thank you. It's some sage advice appreciator. Gavin Walker,

1000
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Speaker 2: acting CEO at Water Safety New Zealand, actually want to

1001
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Speaker 2: I want to tell you a story about my temporary

1002
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Speaker 2: pool fencing. We'll deal with that in a tack. Five

1003
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Speaker 2: twenty two, the.

1004
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Speaker 1: Day's newsmakers talk to Heather First, Heather do for Sellen

1005
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Speaker 1: Drive with One New Zealand and the power of satellite

1006
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Speaker 1: mobile news.

1007
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Speaker 2: Doorg said Behither, it's quite fitting that the ATTA ends

1008
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Speaker 2: its days aground somewhere, isn't it. Five twenty five? Now,

1009
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Speaker 2: do you know what took me a little bit by

1010
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Speaker 2: surprise this week? It's how little blowback New Zealand Post

1011
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Speaker 2: got after its announcement of cutting back its delivery days.

1012
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: There was a time, and when I say there was

1013
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Speaker 2: a time, as recently as the start of last year

1014
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Speaker 2: when this kind of announcement from New Zealand Post calls

1015
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Speaker 2: all kinds of upset up and down the country, but

1016
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Speaker 2: not this week.

1017
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Speaker 10: Now.

1018
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Speaker 2: I'm putting it down to the fact that we've come

1019
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Speaker 2: around to the reality that we will not have mail

1020
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Speaker 2: delivered quite in the same numbers in the future as

1021
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Speaker 2: we used to. Maybe in the year and a half

1022
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Speaker 2: since we last talked about mail deliveries. We've gone out,

1023
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Speaker 2: we've checked our mailboxes. We've realized there really isn't as

1024
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Speaker 2: much mail arriving as we may have thought there was,

1025
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Speaker 2: and maybe we've realized we can go without three delivery

1026
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Speaker 2: days in town and five delivery days in rural areas.

1027
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Speaker 2: I think New Zealand Post will be grateful for the

1028
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Speaker 2: reaction they got this week because they have still got

1029
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Speaker 2: the hardest announcement ahead of them, which is the day

1030
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Speaker 2: that they kill all deliveries all together. And that's going

1031
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Speaker 2: to happen because listen to these numbers. Twenty years ago,

1032
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Speaker 2: we were sending a billion mail items a year. Ten

1033
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Speaker 2: years ago that had fallen by twenty five percent. It

1034
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Speaker 2: was down to seven hundred and fifty million, right, that's

1035
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Speaker 2: still respectable. Then the next ten years, it fell off

1036
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Speaker 2: a cliff. It went down seventy five percent, one hundred

1037
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Speaker 2: and eighty two million. Now that was last year, So

1038
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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty two million last year became one

1039
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million this year, which will be one

1040
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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty million next year. And one hundred and

1041
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Speaker 2: twenty million is the point at which they cut the

1042
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Speaker 2: delivery days again. Towneys go down to one one day

1043
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Speaker 2: a week. What comes after that, no days a week,

1044
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: maybe just at the start for the towns, but then

1045
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: over time it will be for everyone. It's got to

1046
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: be the future. We don't get deliveries to our houses anymore.

1047
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Speaker 2: We go down to the supermarket maybe, or the community

1048
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: mail point or whatever it is. We collect our mail ourselves,

1049
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: maybe once a week, maybe once a month, maybe once

1050
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: a quarter, or maybe never, because let's be honest, one

1051
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: day you will have no mail to collect that doesn't

1052
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Speaker 2: already arrive via courier.

1053
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Speaker 3: Heather Duplicy, Ellen, I have.

1054
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Speaker 2: To say I'm surprised by the number of people who

1055
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Speaker 2: reckon it's nanny state to be careful with pools in

1056
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Speaker 2: the backyard. Here the nanny state, Purple's parent responsibility track

1057
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Speaker 2: and watch your kids. It's from Linda here, the more

1058
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: nanny statists demanding laws to ban stuff because parents want

1059
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: to be drunk and playing on their phones rather than

1060
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: being parents' kids can run out on the road or

1061
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: on the beach. It's ridiculous. Here the very sad about

1062
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 2: the toddler drowning, But what next? We also have cases

1063
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: of unsupervised tots hit by cars. But we don't ban

1064
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: cars backing in and out of their driveways and using

1065
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: residential driveways, do we? Tracy? Thank you? All right, let's

1066
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Speaker 2: talk to one of the kids who've just arrived back

1067
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Speaker 2: from the flot till the next news talks at beat.

1068
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Speaker 1: The name you trust to get the answers you need,

1069
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Speaker 1: it's Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage

1070
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Speaker 1: like no one else news talks.

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Speaker 2: Be okay, well, I'll what good day to be shares.

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Speaker 2: He's a Chesa's has done a capital raise apparently over subscribed,

1073
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Speaker 2: and then yesterday they launched the debit card. And if

1074
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Speaker 2: you haven't seen the debit card, it's kind of an

1075
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Speaker 2: impressive product. So I'll run you through that when we

1076
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Speaker 2: get a chance. We're going to talk to one of

1077
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Speaker 2: the three eos. Yeah, I've got three CEOs, one of

1078
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Speaker 2: the three eos of chess after six and the Sport

1079
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Speaker 2: Huddle is standing by us right now. It's twenty five

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Speaker 2: away from six.

1081
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Speaker 10: Now.

1082
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Speaker 2: The three New Zealand citizens on the flotilla to Gaza

1083
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Speaker 2: have arrived home. They touched down in Auckland about a

1084
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Speaker 2: couple of hours ago. Samuel Leeson was one of the

1085
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Speaker 2: detained activists. Hi, Sam, Hey, how are you. I'm very well,

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Speaker 2: Thank you good to be home.

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Speaker 20: Ah, yeah, it's great, it's yeah. The big relief, big

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Speaker 20: relief in Lead.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The last I heard, you guys were in Jordan, which

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Speaker 2: is where our authorities basically, you know, left you. How'd

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Speaker 2: you get home?

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Speaker 20: Well? Yeah, our socies didn't actually make any contact with us.

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Speaker 20: It was all done through through the UK, so we

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Speaker 20: were you know, we haven't. We didn't hear a single

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Speaker 20: thing from New Zealand, aside from the fact that Winston

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Speaker 20: Peters said that he wasn't going to do a thing

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Speaker 20: for us.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's strictly true. He said that he

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Speaker 2: would be making sure that you guys got out of

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Speaker 2: Israel safely and to Jordan, I think, And then from there.

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Speaker 10: It was on you.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, but we had no wallet, phone or any means

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Speaker 20: to get home, so.

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Speaker 2: Give into your phone.

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Speaker 20: Well, when we were getting intercepted illegally, we were in

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Speaker 20: international warders and we didn't want to give the ide

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Speaker 20: if yeah, information of our personal life. So I chucked

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Speaker 20: my phone overboard along with everyone else.

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Speaker 2: And Andrew Wallace, well, I didn't.

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Speaker 20: I didn't get any of the stuff that was taken

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Speaker 20: from me back. So the only thing I got back

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Speaker 20: was a little two dollars rings. Every every single other

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Speaker 20: thing was stolen.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So so you got to Jordan, how'd you get home?

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Speaker 20: The the GSF organizations helped us out because we were

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Speaker 20: the only we were one of the only countries that

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Speaker 20: didn't didn't get helped home by our government. All the

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Speaker 20: other countries had had there, you know, the country delegate people.

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Speaker 2: In terms of the people who were on the flotterer

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Speaker 2: with you, the countries that they had come from actually

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Speaker 2: paid to take them home.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, majority of them did. They were when they when

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Speaker 20: we arrived in Jordan, they were received with open arms.

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Speaker 20: They got you know, they had given food was given

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Speaker 20: to them, you know, lollies and treats, and we arrived

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Speaker 20: to a few UK people who told us that they

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Speaker 20: would drive us to a hotel and.

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Speaker 10: That was it.

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Speaker 2: And so just New Zealand the only country that didn't

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Speaker 2: didn't bring it to people home.

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Speaker 20: No, I think America received similar similar yea treatment yet

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Speaker 20: and so did the UK. I think actually a few

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Speaker 20: of the UK people got detained and arrested up the

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Speaker 20: New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: But hold on, whoa, the UK arrested their people.

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Speaker 20: Uh, you have to fact check that. I only heard

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Speaker 20: that recently as I was driving Dick. But that's what

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Speaker 20: I heard.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Now, Sam, since you've since you've managed to get

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Speaker 2: out and get to Jordan and get home, you will

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Speaker 2: have seen what's transpired in in Gaza with the peace deal.

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling about that?

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Speaker 20: I think I feel that if our find in Gaza

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Speaker 20: believe that this is this is the right move for them,

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Speaker 20: then I will obviously back there. Yeah, I support I

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Speaker 20: support what they think is right. It's their their lives

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Speaker 20: and their land that is in the balance, so if

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Speaker 20: they if they support it, then I'll support it as

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Speaker 20: a Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well it's great news, isn't it. The guns are gonna

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Speaker 2: that the fighting is going to stop. The shooting is

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Speaker 2: going to stop, the hostages are going to get out,

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Speaker 2: and food's going to get in.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, but the seven of the past, you know, there's

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Speaker 20: been two other seaspies and neither of them are held up.

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Speaker 12: So not to this point.

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Speaker 2: So not to this point though, way.

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Speaker 12: Not to this point.

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Speaker 2: So like lots of this, we have not got we

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Speaker 2: have not we have not got to the point where

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Speaker 2: Hamas has agreed to release the hostages and the Israeli

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Speaker 2: Parliament has agreed to it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I guess, yeah that is true. Never worked out,

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Speaker 20: It'll be amazing, it'll be great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Sam, listen, thanks for your time. Welcome home,

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Speaker 2: Sam Leason Garza activists detained by Israel just landed home

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Speaker 2: a couple of hours ago, twenty away from six.

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Speaker 2: On the sports tatle this evening we have Paul Ellison,

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Speaker 2: is ZB Rugby commentator, Darcy Watergrave z B sports talk host.

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Speaker 2: Hello you too. Greetings, Oh, I forgot what Paul?

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Speaker 10: Are you there?

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Speaker 3: I'm here.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I went too hard at the gym and

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Speaker 2: I've used all my energy, so I forgot.

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Speaker 11: I'm delighted to hear you've been at the gym.

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Speaker 2: Keeping myself looking God for your Paul. Okay, Paul, along

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Speaker 2: is this Dame Nole's nonsen is going to carry on for?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 13: Look, I don't know how long is a piece of string.

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Speaker 13: It's got to solve itself shortly, doesn't it. I think

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Speaker 13: Nipple's got a few problems, not just around the coaching side.

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Speaker 13: They've got issues around the broadcasting rights, the financial state,

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Speaker 13: and maybe you've got to start questioning the whole decisiveness

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Speaker 13: of their leadership leadership regime as well. But you know,

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Speaker 13: for any successful team, they need to establish a really

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Speaker 13: positive culture. Players need to buy into that culture. And

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Speaker 13: I know some really high performing international sports coaches who

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Speaker 13: select on character and attitude first and skills and ability second.

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Speaker 13: They see, you you need to get good people first,

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Speaker 13: and then you create a positive, stimulating, a motivating environment. Now,

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Speaker 13: I think those are the values that New Zealand Niple's

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Speaker 13: got to go back to and actually work right through

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Speaker 13: and maybe start from the ground up. Now we are

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Speaker 13: no lean sits and that we're the players and that

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Speaker 13: I don't know, but there's certainly, from my understanding, there's

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Speaker 13: a division amongst the players, and I don't think it's

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Speaker 13: going to resolve itself quickly, do you think.

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Speaker 2: Paul okay, So, do you think that they have the

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Speaker 2: captain and vice captain or deputy captain or whatever they called.

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Speaker 2: Have they picked one from each camp this time around,

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Speaker 2: like one pro Noles and one anti Knoles.

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Speaker 13: Well, I don't know that's a good move if they

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Speaker 13: have done that, because that throws a further division amongst

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Speaker 13: the team as well. I mean, they traded captains throughout

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Speaker 13: that series where they had three different captains and those

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Speaker 13: three different test matches, and where're not was to be

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Speaker 13: able to test out their leadership ability or the ability

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Speaker 13: to be able to bring players together. I don't know,

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Speaker 13: but certainly with what Grace and the Wiki did in

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Speaker 13: them for Cagle, she she got under the soapbox and

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Speaker 13: certainly showed her side of the story. I know I

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Speaker 13: know from a really good source that that was not

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Speaker 13: embraced some of her comments by all the players around

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Speaker 13: it no, so.

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Speaker 2: I've heard what have you heard?

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Speaker 3: Dos?

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Speaker 9: Yes, but you don't hear a great deal because they're

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Speaker 9: very good at keeping a lid on everything. So as

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Speaker 9: I've often talked about natsure, a boring and vacuum and

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Speaker 9: what happenstuff goes, isn't it? I'm interested in, as Paul mentioned,

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Speaker 9: the position of management here.

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Speaker 2: So can I tell you have you heard what we've

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Speaker 2: been keeping track on on the show?

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Speaker 9: Oh no, I haven't show. I know we had that

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Speaker 9: actually on Sports Talk a couple of days ago. Okay,

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Speaker 9: and said where's it gone?

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Speaker 2: So the leadership team page is gone, and it's still

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Speaker 2: not up Friday, and it's still i.

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Speaker 9: Think Wednesday night. One of my callers called through and said, oh,

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Speaker 9: look at the leadership page. There's nobody there.

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Speaker 3: If you look.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure Paul will agree that when you look at

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Speaker 9: a situation like this, whoever's that fault, the person who's

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Speaker 9: leading the organization ultimately is responsible for the tumult.

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Speaker 14: And that is the CEO does that's it is?

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Speaker 2: Every one's showing too many ways.

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Speaker 9: Yes, some people will say no, somebody hates a fan.

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Speaker 9: It's a bit of eye candy for the mails and

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Speaker 9: so on and so forth. Think it's kind of quite

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Speaker 9: an old school thing. Was but weirded out by it

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Speaker 9: was so much in Singapore. But when you show the

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Speaker 9: wives and girlfriends sitting in the pits staring at a

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Speaker 9: screen and you don't show the action on the tarmac

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Speaker 9: and it's only an hour and forty minutes, that's it.

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Speaker 9: You can cover all that off whenever you want.

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Speaker 2: But when it's racing, what about a quick shot just

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00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: to quick like a couple of seconds.

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Speaker 14: Well, no, that's fine.

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Speaker 9: But if someone's passing somebody on a hair, and if

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Speaker 9: someone's coming into the pit lane and they've collected someone

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Speaker 9: with a span, I mean, go on, where do.

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Speaker 14: You sit on this?

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Speaker 3: You laughing?

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Speaker 13: I'm wondering what sort of passing you're talking about? To

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00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 13: be fear? But who's making a pass on?

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Speaker 10: Who?

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Speaker 13: But look, you start looking at Hollywood stars and sporting

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Speaker 13: celebrities that are little around Formula one, aren't they The

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Speaker 13: fact that the TV coverage is focusing on them during

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Speaker 13: the race itself, I think is a good is not

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Speaker 13: a good approach to take? And this is what the

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Speaker 13: fans are saying, This is what is coming through now

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Speaker 13: as a reaction saying, hey, we want to watch the race.

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Speaker 13: We don't mind seeing some of the girlfriends afterwards, or

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Speaker 13: maybe with their drivers and the partners afterwards, but not

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Speaker 13: during the race. Are such? Okay here you're probably right

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Speaker 13: one or two seconds, but you don't need to dwell

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Speaker 13: on it because the coverage is about the motor racing,

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Speaker 13: not about the girlfriends.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and come back to

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Speaker 2: you guys. Yeah, you're getting applause, Paul, Come back to

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Speaker 2: you guys. Shortly caught a zoo.

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Speaker 2: Right, you're back with the sports hittle Paul Allison and

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Speaker 2: water Grave dust. Do you think this is on the

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Speaker 2: Saudi rugby game? I want to call it rugby league,

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Speaker 2: but it's a rugby union league. Do you see the

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Speaker 2: NRL bosses are also now wanting to sanction the players.

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Speaker 9: Right, there's a couple of things to take out of

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Speaker 9: this from the research I've done. One of them is

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Speaker 9: R three sixty A pretty much invisible. You can't get

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Speaker 9: hold of them, you can't talk to them, you can't

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Speaker 9: find anything about them. They don't exist. Secondly, I've found

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Speaker 9: out that the money it's not Saudi money. It's not

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Speaker 9: coming from Saudi.

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Speaker 2: Ara, American money.

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Speaker 14: I don't know. They ain't quite I'm trying to ring.

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Speaker 14: I'm emailing work.

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Speaker 2: At where I've been told it's American money.

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Speaker 9: People presume it's Saudi because are going to be registered

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Speaker 9: to Saudi interests. But it's not Saudi money. I don't

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Speaker 9: know if there's any truth than that, but that's what

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Speaker 9: i'm hearing. So and I'm sure you agree, Paul, World Rugby,

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Speaker 9: I'm not so much. The NRL World Rugby are essentially panicking.

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Speaker 9: That's why they've come out and go, oh not in

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Speaker 9: our watch. They've drawn along the sounds.

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Speaker 14: I know, you don't know, you don't because they know this.

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Speaker 9: Paul has the potential to shake up global rugby and

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Speaker 9: it needs a shake up because the pals in the

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Speaker 9: Northern Hemisphere steadfastly refuse to acknowledge global rugby or go

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Speaker 9: any further. They pay lip service, but they do nothing.

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Speaker 9: So they're primed for the plucking, aren't they, Paul.

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Speaker 10: Paul.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, when you look at the fact that they

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Speaker 13: have put these shutters up now in the eight countries

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Speaker 13: and the eight strongest countries pretty much in the ruler

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Speaker 13: of Australian New Zealand, sid Afriga Island, England, Scotland, France

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Speaker 13: and Italy. I said, look, if you go to this

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Speaker 13: three sixty, you're not able to play for your national side,

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Speaker 13: you're not eligible for World Cups, you're not eligible for

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Speaker 13: Olympic Games and the like.

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Speaker 11: So they've put the shutters up there.

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Speaker 13: Whether this goes anywhere or not, I don't know. Love

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Speaker 13: golf has Athletics tried it with the Grand Slam track

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Speaker 13: meets which didn't come up, and then that Super Soccer

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01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 13: League sort of got aboarded, so they've tried.

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Speaker 11: This in the past.

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Speaker 13: I mean, what you need to do, dars. You've got

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Speaker 13: the tip here for you if you want really going

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Speaker 13: to go to the source, go to the royal family

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Speaker 13: and get hold of Charlie and just see what the

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01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 13: Christmas invitations like. And then Tyndall will tell you exactly

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Speaker 13: what's going on, because he's the face.

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Speaker 14: Of it all too right, fair enough, I haven't got

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Speaker 14: him on speed dial. I've tried the Crown Prince, but

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Speaker 14: he won't take my calls.

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Speaker 2: Something controversial for you, Darcy, Now you know lovely producer

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Speaker 2: Libby over there. She has said that the reason that

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Speaker 2: we've had three umpires in the Women's Cricket World Cup

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Speaker 2: causing so much confusion is because they've gone too hard

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Speaker 2: on trying to be progressive and get only only female

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Speaker 2: umpires an experience.

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Speaker 9: You could lean that way if you want. I think

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Speaker 9: it's important that you can can judge they can umpire

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Speaker 9: under extreme as they can under extreme pressure. There's been

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Speaker 9: a couple of or three decisions that have been let's

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Speaker 9: let's not forget this, that have been dicey and difficult.

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Speaker 9: And now I can hear Libby in the cans garden.

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Speaker 2: Have we lost quality in the refing because they've tried

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Speaker 2: to be too progressive instead all female umpiring team for

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Speaker 2: the first time brackets.

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Speaker 9: But no, think everybody makes mistakes, Paul. Do you remember

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Speaker 9: Nigel Long and that dreaded call that could have been anything?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 13: Look, I can remember some shocking calls from umpires over

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Speaker 13: the years. But now they've got technology and the fact

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Speaker 13: that you can go upstairs for the calls that you're

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Speaker 13: not sure about for the next and the court behinds

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Speaker 13: and the LBWs and some of the real critical calls.

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01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 13: You now can put them under review and the technology

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Speaker 13: will actually do it for you. So the role that

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Speaker 13: an umpire plays in credit these days are still but.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot.

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Speaker 2: To stop being such a misogyny.

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Speaker 14: No, no, one of them.

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Speaker 9: One of the umpires actually wasn't asked to review it,

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Speaker 9: win ahead and did it anyway, made a decision contrary

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Speaker 9: to the rules of the game. But umpires and refreezings

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Speaker 9: always make mistakes.

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Speaker 14: It's a given.

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Speaker 2: And I think we've got an.

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Speaker 9: Overcorrection situation here, okay, where they're so paranoid they look

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Speaker 9: at everything all the time. Same with the neat ballers

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01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 9: overcreaching around player power. It's gone too far, after all,

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Speaker 9: it is like high performance.

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Speaker 2: Why this is funny to me is because producer Livia

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Speaker 2: is the least like she's the least likely person to

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Speaker 2: be such a misogynist. She's actually very woke, So I

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Speaker 2: think she's just written that to appeal to me. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: she says, no, yep, never mind, never mind what she

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Speaker 2: says to me. Guys, have a lovely weekend of sport.

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Speaker 2: Paul Hate By the way, are you calling the NBC?

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Speaker 13: I am tonight? Yeah, who's been Otigo will win that one,

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Speaker 13: but narrowly, I think because Whitekattow's been boosted back with

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Speaker 13: some all blacks. Canniburry will knock over Counties Manecow. The

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Speaker 13: other two tomorrow starting at ten past four and ten

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Speaker 13: past seven. I can't pick them. Are really close.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant, Hey, good luck with that, have a lovely evening

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Speaker 2: and Darcy, thank you as always for everything. As Paul

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Speaker 2: Allison and Darcy watergorow our Sports Talk Sports Huddle rather

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Speaker 2: this evening. Seven away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on My Hard Radio powered by News Talk z'bu.

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Speaker 2: Five away from six. Update on the situation with the

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Speaker 2: Maori Party in the Speaker. The Speaker has confirmed that

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Speaker 2: he is going to be meeting with the Maori Party

1395
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 2: co leaders next week after what he is describing as

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01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: contempt of the House. It does seem that whoever said

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Speaker 2: it earlier on I'm not sure who it was. I

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01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: said earlier on that that, oh, I think it was

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Speaker 2: Chippy that what Jerry is really upset about is the

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Speaker 2: duration of order. Any kaipitter speech may well be on

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01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: the mark. It seems the Hukker then just sort of

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01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: what's the straw that broke the camel's back. But he

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Speaker 2: was already irritated because there's a fifteen minute allocation for

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Speaker 2: maiden speeches. And after fifteen minutes he starts dinging the

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Speaker 2: bell and sort of getting her, you know, getting them

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Speaker 2: to wrap it up with us. She just ignored him, right,

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Speaker 2: So here fifteen minutes, He's like, all right, dang, dang,

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Speaker 2: wrap it up, and she just keeps going, goes for

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Speaker 2: twenty three minutes, eight minutes, Like I think about the

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Speaker 2: duration of eight minutes that you're just ignoring a big

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Speaker 2: guy over there ringing a bell, not happy about it

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Speaker 2: at all anyway, So that's going to happen next week,

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Speaker 2: so I'm sure we'll be covering a little bit. Then

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Speaker 2: sounds like the road cone tip line, by the way,

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Speaker 2: is going to get the acts. It's clearly not working.

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Speaker 2: That's obvious. The reports to the tip line are falling

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Speaker 2: the half each month since the thing has been going,

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01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 2: and I think it's only been going for four months.

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01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: Only twenty percent of all reports actually end up resulting

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Speaker 2: in action. Most of the time nothing happens because the

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Speaker 2: cones are actually supposed to be there, So you and

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Speaker 2: I see too many cones, we call the road cone tipline.

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Speaker 2: They go have a look, they go. Now, that's how

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Speaker 2: many cones are supposed to be there, because that's how

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Speaker 2: many cones the council has okayed to be there. And

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Speaker 2: that's the actual problem is that the councils keep approving

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Speaker 2: too many cones. Anyway, Minister will workplace safety. Brook van

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Speaker 2: Velden says she will close the road cone reporting top

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Speaker 2: line hotline sorry, once she's satisfied they've identified the source

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Speaker 2: of the road cone problem, which I think we have. Heather,

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Speaker 2: how could you let Sam get away with that interview?

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Speaker 2: All my things got stolen? Oh I threw my phone overboard.

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Speaker 2: Seriously actually that that was probably one of the more

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Speaker 2: enjoyable parts of the interview. Don't you think that that

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Speaker 2: Sam just took it as an opportunity to tell some yarns.

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, we didn't have I didn't have a phone.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's because I threw it overboard. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: we were the only country the officials didn't help us.

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01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: Oh except for also the US and the UK. And

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Speaker 2: then oh yeah, the UK was arresting their citizens. Are

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01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: Actually maybe not like I just feel like Sam's yarns.

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01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: Sam's yarns were actually much more fun than reality. Realities

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01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 2: is far less, far less interesting. We helped them. He

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01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: threw his phone overboard. Maybe shouldn't have done that. Cheersy's

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Speaker 2: is with us. Next news Talk, said B.

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Speaker 1: Where business meets insight Love Business Hours with hither Duplicy

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Speaker 1: Allen and Mas for insurance investments and Julie Safer.

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Speaker 3: You're good as news talk, said B.

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Speaker 2: Even in coming up in the next hour, the world's

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Speaker 2: first resort hospital has opened in Macaw. Peter Lewis will

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01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: explain it to us. Barry Sopah will wrap the political

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01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 2: week that was in Gail Downey does the UK for

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Speaker 2: US at seven past six. Now, investment platform Charesy's is

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Speaker 2: definitely not a minor player anymore. The company is in

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Speaker 2: the final stages of a twenty million dollar capital raise,

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Speaker 2: which values the platform it's seven hundred and fifty million dollars.

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01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,439
Speaker 2: Layton Roberts is one of the three eos of Chares.

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Speaker 2: He's highlighting Hello, are you pleased with the capital raise?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, i am, I'm really happy. Thank you.

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Speaker 18: Oversubscribed yes, yep, A lot of interests out there Primarily

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Speaker 18: this was an existing shareholders raise, so reasonably small for

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Speaker 18: the size of our business, I suppose, but yeah, really

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Speaker 18: happy how much?

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Speaker 2: By how much was it oversubscribed?

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Speaker 10: I can't really give those exact numbers.

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Speaker 25: For part of it was interest that we didn't end

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Speaker 25: up taking, but sort of, you know, materially, yeah.

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Speaker 2: What are you going to do with the money that

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Speaker 2: you raise?

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Speaker 25: The business got much larger, so just a strong balance

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01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 25: sheet is really important. Now we have been cash flow

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Speaker 25: positive for the last year or so, so but the

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Speaker 25: other side of it is a bunch of growth, particularly

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Speaker 25: in our B to B business. We've got a really large,

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Speaker 25: more global opportunity there, so we intend to invest more

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Speaker 25: heavily into that area of the business.

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Speaker 2: I see that you guys, reckon, you've got a perception issue,

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01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: which is that your investors are just dabblers. Why is

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Speaker 2: that do you think?

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Speaker 10: I actually don't think we've got a perception issue at all.

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Speaker 25: I think sometimes other people have that perception of Cheesy's

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Speaker 25: But from what I see on the platform and the utilization,

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Speaker 25: you know, we now have over two thousand people with

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Speaker 25: a million dollar plus portfolios, tens of thousands and the

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Speaker 25: sort of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth portfolios, So

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Speaker 25: it's not something I have. It's not necessarily something I

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Speaker 25: care about either, because we made chees Us to be

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Speaker 25: an accessible platform from investing and I just love that

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Speaker 25: people do it, regardless of what amount of money there.

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Speaker 2: So you're right, I have attributed something to you that

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Speaker 2: actually was something that Patrick Smelley has said of Business Desk, right,

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Speaker 2: but is he wrong? I mean I wonder if there

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Speaker 2: is the perception that it's because when somebody told me

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Speaker 2: the value of some of the investment portfolios on your app,

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Speaker 2: I was shocked at how much money people have gotten there.

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Speaker 2: So the perception is that it's just for kind of

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Speaker 2: playing around.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, perhaps for some people, but like I say, the

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Speaker 25: numbers sort of just don't signal that or certainly not

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Speaker 25: as I see all the companies that we work with.

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Speaker 25: You know, we run Fontiras for example, trading platform which

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01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 25: has all of the Farmer, the owners of Frontier and

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01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 25: the cooperative, and then we have like the Spark team

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01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 25: and all of the executive and many other companies in

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Speaker 25: New Zealand Australia as well who use the platform. So

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Speaker 25: like I get the perceptions there and for sure, just

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Speaker 25: like the population. You know, more people on our platform

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01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 25: have smaller amounts of money than very large amounts. But

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Speaker 25: I'd say that's very representative and if anything, we're growing,

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Speaker 25: like people are. The average balance on the platform nows

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01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 25: over fifteen thousand dollars you, so step back three or

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Speaker 25: four years, that was more like two or three thousand.

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01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 25: So it's definitely heading in the vision, in line with

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01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 25: the vision we hope to see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, tell me how this new debit card works

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01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 2: for you guys.

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01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 25: Yeah, so's like a normal debit card. We've partnered with

1518
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 25: MasterCard on this one, and for the first time, Cheesy's

1519
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 25: customers will be given in account numbers so they can

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01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 25: they have their own account number on the platform. And

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01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 25: the unique factor is like we really believe that income's

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01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 25: a massive part of wealth, and we want to encourage

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01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 25: people to invest more of their income. So we're starting

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01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 25: with when people can spend, they'll get a percent back.

1525
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 25: So like our sort of view of it as it's

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01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 25: like democratizing the rewards systems that were previously just for

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01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 25: like those really elite platinum style credit card programs.

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01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 2: So how much do you have to spend to get

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01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 2: one point back one hundred dollars.

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01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 10: You'll get one dollar invested. So we're still I think

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01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 10: it's a great deal.

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01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: Might have to get me one of those, Layton, thanks

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01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 2: very much, appreciated Layton, Robert's three EO of Charesy's. But

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01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 2: you know what you can do, So you get yourself

1535
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 2: that debit card and then you can load it on

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01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 2: your phone and use it to tap and go like

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01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 2: you would your credit card. So this is new technology

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01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: to me and could well be new technology to you.

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01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 2: And then if you're using the debit card, why you

1540
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: want to use that instead of credit card? You avoid

1541
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 2: the surcharges. You're welcome. Six to eleven he a duo

1542
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 2: for Clum. Yeah, last day of the postal voting coming

1543
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: in in the local body elections, and the turnout is yeah,

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01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 2: I think we've got a problem. Is what the turnout

1545
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 2: tells us? So Wellington's turnout at the So when I

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01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 2: say last, just so that you know you can still

1547
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 2: vote tomorrow, and I would strongly encourage you to. And

1548
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 2: you want to go to a place like a supermarket

1549
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 2: or a transport hub or something like that, you can

1550
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 2: go vote in the booth there. Okay, like you do

1551
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: with election days. Wellington turnout as of yesterday thirty percent,

1552
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 2: which is pretty much what it was three years ago.

1553
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 2: Auckland twenty two percent, which is well down on what

1554
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 2: it was three years ago. It was just twenty seven percent.

1555
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: Christ Church is thirty one percent. That's down from thirty

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01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 2: eight percent last year, last election, and this is the

1557
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 2: same point right the day before. Dunedin twenty six percent

1558
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: this time, down from thirty nine percent this time last election.

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01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 2: Mana with two thirty one percent. That's compared to thirty

1560
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 2: seven percent at the same point as a massive drop.

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01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 2: Kai Coder forty one percent, steep drop from the fifty

1562
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 2: two percent three years ago. Mackenzie District in Canterbury currently

1563
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 2: forty eight percent. Fortunately, this is one of the ones

1564
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 2: that's going up. It's higher than the forty one and

1565
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 2: a half percent it was three years ago. Topaul was

1566
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 2: sitting on forty percent. Big jump from the two to

1567
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 2: thirty two this time last You know, I den I despair.

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01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: I mean, look, how many more how many more pieces

1569
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 2: of data do we need to show that there is

1570
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 2: a problem here. We've got this, We've got numpties who

1571
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 2: are being elected. We've got people who are running unopposed

1572
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 2: and getting elected because there's literally no one standing against them.

1573
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: We obviously need a massive overhaul. Cannot wait for it.

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01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 2: Thirteen past six it's the.

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01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: Heather Duper see allan drive full show podcast on my

1576
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: Heart Radio powered by news dog Zebbi.

1577
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: Heather where a matter of we're two haven't even received

1578
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 2: our voting papers. Holy, okay, anyway, Look, don't feel too bad,

1579
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: because Laura the German did receive her voting papers and

1580
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: she promises me, she promises me that she's going to

1581
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: hand them in tomorrow and she will not forget. However,

1582
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: her observation on the quality of people she has to

1583
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: vote for is what was it again, Laura? That either

1584
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: crazy or unelectable, which many of us will have a

1585
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 2: feeling many of us would share having a look at

1586
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: the voting papers. All right, sixteen past six, Let's wrap

1587
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 2: the political week that was with Barry so Per, senior

1588
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: political correspondent. Welcome back, Barry, Hello again, Heather. Okay, so,

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Speaker 2: what do you think happens now in the wake of

1590
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 2: Winston Peter's house being attacked? Does that legislation pass that

1591
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 2: that basically prevents protest outside residential property?

1592
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 14: Oh, I think for sure it'll pass. It's back from

1593
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 14: the Select Committee and you know it'lly. They've got the numbers,

1594
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 14: so it will pass into law. And I think, look,

1595
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 14: politicians and elected officials' homes, it should be free from protest.

1596
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 14: I mean, nobody wants banging on drums and loudhailer's at night. Well,

1597
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 14: you know it's the name is that you're as concerned.

1598
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: It's kids, right, because some of these MPs who aren't

1599
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 2: kind of gnarly jobs portfolios have actually got school aged

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01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 2: children living with them. They didn't ask to get involved.

1601
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 14: In this, No they didn't. And look, win Winston's house

1602
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 14: has been the subject of a lot of protest. They've

1603
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 14: had stickers on the front of it for which indicates

1604
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 14: that people got up in the night and stuck them

1605
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 14: up there. They've had red paint thrown at the place.

1606
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 14: And this is over recent years. And the Israeli Gaza

1607
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 14: thing really has I think divided New Zealand to such

1608
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 14: an extent that and we saw the protester who invited

1609
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 14: people down to protest at Winston Place losing her actor's

1610
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 14: job essentially this week. So you know, people are so

1611
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 14: divided and so vehement in their views, and one can

1612
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 14: only hope this agreement will finally come or bear some fruit.

1613
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 2: Some good news this week in that double cut from

1614
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank game.

1615
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 14: Well, yes, I mean, you know, I think what it

1616
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 14: sees is that this was a consensus by the Monetary

1617
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 14: Policy Committee, which is better than it was the last

1618
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 14: time in a cup point two five percent that was

1619
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 14: you know, two people dissented from that vote, So this time,

1620
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 14: at least they're all on the same page, and that

1621
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 14: to me says that they realize that they've been too

1622
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 14: slow in getting off the mark. And it was an

1623
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 14: engineer engineered recession by Adrian Orr before he left, and

1624
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 14: it's carried on for so long, and it's not only

1625
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 14: the Reserve Bank's fault the economy and the state that

1626
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,520
Speaker 14: it's in, but they do be a fairly large responsibility

1627
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 14: in it.

1628
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 18: Yeah.

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01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 2: The good thing about this is if this goes I mean, look,

1630
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 2: there is a risk with the cut and that it

1631
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 2: suddenly inflation gets out of control. But if this again,

1632
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 2: but if it goes well, it actually does have the

1633
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 2: potential to have the economy really humming by the time

1634
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: we go to the polls for the NATS.

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01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 14: Yeah, to have the economy humming is basically to have

1636
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 14: people in a better frame of mind. That's what it's

1637
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 14: all about. Yes, generally in a better frame of mind.

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01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: It's good for the NATS because the NATS have fallen

1639
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:12,679
Speaker 2: below thirty and that's bad.

1640
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 14: Well terrible really, I mean that's psychological thirty percent, but

1641
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 14: don't forget it's twenty nine point six percent and the

1642
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 14: statistical margin of era and all these polls are three percent.

1643
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 14: So and you know, polls at this time, whilst they

1644
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 14: might be important on the leadership, and you may get

1645
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 14: some MPs looking at the leadership and saying, well, I

1646
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 14: could lose my place in parliament next time round, it

1647
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 14: doesn't improve, and they most certainly will if this is

1648
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 14: translated into votes at the election. But I don't think.

1649
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 14: I think you'll find next year that the economy will

1650
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 14: be starting to lift a little, not a lot, but

1651
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 14: a little, and people's mood, the general mood of the

1652
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 14: country will be better. And that's what certainly the National

1653
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 14: Party and their coalition partners will be praying for.

1654
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so the hacker in Parliament.

1655
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 14: It's just so far wide of the mark as to

1656
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 14: what that place should be.

1657
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 2: Do we not need to get used to this?

1658
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 14: We have no, we don't.

1659
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 2: These guys are going to roll.

1660
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 14: We've we've got a party there with sex MP's in

1661
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 14: Parliament and they are causing absolute chaos in the place.

1662
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 14: The mode of dress in the debating chamber has changed

1663
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 14: because roaring white to Tea wants to wear his hat

1664
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 14: in Parliament and ties are gone, t shirts are in

1665
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 14: sneakers or and I mean, this is unbelievable the way

1666
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 14: Parliament looks now these days. But it's not only that

1667
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 14: you relax those sorts of standards and all the rules

1668
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 14: in Parliament go out the window.

1669
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: This is a Trevor problem. This is a Trevor problem

1670
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: and a Jerry problem because Trevor started and Jerry continued, Well,

1671
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: see for Jerry.

1672
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 14: I feel sorry for Jerry Browney because you know he's

1673
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 14: confronted by this day out today. He sits and tells

1674
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 14: them this is what's expected on them. He gets an undertaking,

1675
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 14: as he did with the Kuiper in case that would

1676
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 14: be no Harker at the end of the waiata and

1677
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 14: he has to take their word for that, although although

1678
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 14: hang on, although he won't take their word in the future.

1679
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 2: He was the guy, though, I will remind you who

1680
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 2: directed the house to really have a long, hard think

1681
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 2: about how hard they wanted to punish the slot for

1682
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 2: the last hucker, suggesting that he may have thought that

1683
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 2: it was a disproportionate punishment.

1684
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 14: Well now, look, yeah, well no, I agree that. I

1685
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 14: think if they are going to become hard, come down

1686
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 14: on hard, Jerry Brownly will now be right in favor

1687
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 14: of it, because they've really thumbed their nose at him

1688
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 14: and done their own thing the way they want.

1689
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 10: It to be.

1690
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 2: Barry, thanks very much, Barry Soper, Senior political correspondent. Rapping

1691
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: the political week that was, I need to get you

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Speaker 2: across a really interesting piece that the BBC has run

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Speaker 2: next definitely in the next half hour, because it's the

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Speaker 2: last half hour of the program. I will do that

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Speaker 2: six twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Tours book now at Wanderasia Tours dot com.

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Speaker 3: Ever do for ce Ellen right, We're going to talk

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Speaker 3: very soon.

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Speaker 2: To Peter Lewis. Of course, one of the things that's

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Speaker 2: happening this week is that Japan is going to get

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Speaker 2: its first female prime minister, so that's kind of an

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01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 2: exciting thing. He'll took us through the ramifications of that

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Speaker 2: six twenty six.

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01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 3: There's no business like show business.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know that song, don't? Oh yeah, it's the

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Speaker 2: Game of Thrones and if you loved it, this once

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01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 2: for you. There is more from the world of West

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01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 2: Ross on the way. It's another prequel set one hundred

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01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 2: bit years before the time of John Snow. It's not

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01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 2: to be confused with the other Game of Thrones prequel,

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Speaker 2: which is How the Dragon, because that one's set two

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01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 2: hundred years before the main series. This new one is

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01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: called a Night of the Seven Kingdoms, and fans of

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01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 2: the books will know the story of Dunk and Egg,

1742
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 2: and now their story is going to be told on screen.

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01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 2: There was a trailer released today.

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Speaker 3: If you could bring them to.

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01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 2: Ashford, I could quite hear so, Runny, I'll haunt you

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01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 2: down with dogs.

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Speaker 3: I'll get some what huh.

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Speaker 2: It seems like a pretty clear cut story of a

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Speaker 2: knight and his child squire traveling across the land of

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Speaker 2: west Ross. There's lots of training and jousting, maybe even

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Speaker 2: a proper battle if we're lucky. No sign of any

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01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 2: dragons just yet. The new show starts streaming January eighteen,

1753
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 2: but we're not due for another season of the House

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Speaker 2: of the Dragon until mid next year. I feel like

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01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 2: it's fair to say that they are absolutely milking this one,

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Speaker 2: aren't they. They're making sure that they get the absolute

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent that they are able to get out

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Speaker 2: of the world of west Ross before we lose interest

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Speaker 2: in it. Hands the hands up in this team. Who's

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01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 2: watched any more than just no? Okay, so we've got

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Speaker 2: a lot of catching up. We haven't watched anything except

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Speaker 2: for the one with that that has the song anyway.

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Speaker 2: Peter Lewis is with us out of Asia very shortly.

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Speaker 2: News talksb.

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Speaker 3: It's where there. It's the macro microbe for just playing economics.

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01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: It's all on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen

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01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: and maz for insurance investments and Kiwye Safer.

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01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 3: You're in good hands us talks.

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01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 2: Michael Downey is going to be with us out of

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Speaker 2: the UK shortly. Kirstarmer has been in India. Everybody loves Indian,

1771
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 2: so of course does the UK. I'm very happy always

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01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 2: to tell you about a little bit of you know,

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Speaker 2: building of something that we need in this country. And

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Speaker 2: they are building. This is the government. They are building

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01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 2: a new hospital south of Auckland and they've just kicked

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Speaker 2: off the first stage. So the calling for land or

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01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 2: landowners in Drury to get in touch with potential sites

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01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 2: for the thing. And if you have been around there,

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Speaker 2: if you've lived in the Franklin district or that part

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Speaker 2: of the world, or know anybody there, you'll know that

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01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 2: this place desperately needs a hospital because I mean the

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Speaker 2: closest one is Middlemore and that's under so much pressure

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Speaker 2: as it is in Auckland City, which is yeah sure

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Speaker 2: not too much further up the motorway is also under

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Speaker 2: a lot of pressure from population growth. The closest hospital

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01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,560
Speaker 2: to them is probably Pooka Koi, which has got that

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Speaker 2: private hospital. But it's always full, I'm told so Druri

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Speaker 2: getting a hospital and it's underway twenty four away from.

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Speaker 3: Seven ever Dopersla.

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Speaker 2: Keeter lewis out Asia Business correspondents with US. Hello, Peter, Hello,

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Speaker 2: have you been on holiday?

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Speaker 16: I had a break because it's actually a bit too

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Speaker 16: busy to travel because you go about eight hundred eight

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Speaker 16: hundred million other people all doing it at the same time.

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Speaker 16: So it was nice to have the sort of the

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Speaker 16: eight days off, but I spent it mainly at home.

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Speaker 2: So what is this Golden Week holiday?

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Speaker 16: Well, this year it's been much longer than normal. It

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Speaker 16: was an eight day holiday. It occurs always at the

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Speaker 16: beginning of the beginning of October for China's National Day,

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Speaker 16: which is the first of October, the anniversary of the

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Speaker 16: founding of the People's Republic of China. But this year

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01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 16: we also had the Middle Autumn Festival as well, so

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01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 16: they sort of joined them together and made one big

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Speaker 16: eight day holiday. You get a huge amount of travel

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Speaker 16: going on. As I said, there's about eight hundred and

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Speaker 16: eighty million domestic trips were made during that week in total.

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Speaker 16: A lot of people go home back to their families,

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Speaker 16: but you also get a lot of travel around China.

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Speaker 16: Places like Beijing and Shanghai very popular. Overseas, Japan and

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01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 16: South Korea very popular as well, so you get a

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Speaker 16: lot of overseas travel, and it's often seen as a

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Speaker 16: guide to the state of the economy because this is

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Speaker 16: the chance for people to really splash out and go

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Speaker 16: and spend money on travel, on movies, on restaurants, and

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01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 16: so on. But the trend this year hasn't been that

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Speaker 16: great as an indication of China's economy because although there's

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Speaker 16: been a record number of trips, the amount of money

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Speaker 16: spent on those trips has declined. People just don't seem

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Speaker 16: to have the animal spirits anymore. They're really looking for

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Speaker 16: budget deals, budget holidays. Hotels, although they may be completely full,

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Speaker 16: have had to slash their prices, so they're not making

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Speaker 16: the same sort of money as before. And this is

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Speaker 16: all part of the fact that there's really a couple

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Speaker 16: of things going on. One is the property market. It's

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Speaker 16: still a very big overhang on the Chinese economy. It's

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Speaker 16: been going down now for about four years. And also

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Speaker 16: there's a lot of unemployment, particularly youth unemployment. Nearly one

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Speaker 16: in five students, people under twenty four are unemployed, so

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Speaker 16: it just doesn't really encourage people to go and splash

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Speaker 16: the cash.

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Speaker 2: And now what do you know about this resort, hotel

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Speaker 2: and macw.

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Speaker 23: Oh it's a great idea.

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Speaker 16: Well, I tell you why it is because this is

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Speaker 16: a joint venue between IRAD in Hong Kong. Now, in

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Speaker 16: Hong Kong, IRAD is very well known. They are the

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Speaker 16: leading diagnostic groups. So if you need to go and

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Speaker 16: have a scan of some sort and X ray and

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Speaker 16: MRI scan, CT scan, the chances you will end up

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Speaker 16: at IRAD. And they've opened the world's first resort hospital

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Speaker 16: inside the Studio City Complex in Macau. Now this is

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Speaker 16: a huge, glitzy Hollywood themed casino and entertainment resort. And

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01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 16: the idea is that while you're there, Macaw has a

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Speaker 16: lot of visitors thirty nine million tourists each year. Some

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Speaker 16: of them are going to be quite health conscious and

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Speaker 16: maybe want to stay a bit longer and enjoy some

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Speaker 16: medical services. And medical tourism is absolutely booming in Asia.

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Speaker 16: The Asian region accounts for about seventy five percent of

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Speaker 16: the global market. Last year, it was about sixty billion

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Speaker 16: dollars worth of revenues. That's projected to double over the

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01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 16: next few years. South Korea, Singapore and Thailand very much

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Speaker 16: dominate that space. But with this captive number of people

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01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 16: coming to Macau, the idea is that Macau can try

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Speaker 16: and you tap into that sort of huge market for

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Speaker 16: medical tourism. And why not, why not after you know,

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Speaker 16: a heavy night at the roulette table, go and have

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Speaker 16: a full body scan and a collagen boost stuff afterwards.

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Speaker 10: Why not?

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Speaker 2: Why not combine two of your greatest loves. Now are

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01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 2: we going to get over the fact that the Japanese

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Speaker 2: prime minister, the incoming one, is a punk rocker.

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Speaker 16: Well, there's two things that really stand out. If you're

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Speaker 16: a foreigner, you really only know two things about Takiji.

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Speaker 16: One is that she was a former drummer in a

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Speaker 16: heavy metal band when she's a student. And the other

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01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 16: thing is she's a big fan of Margaret Thatcher. She

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Speaker 16: likes to style herself on her even to wearing blue suits,

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01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 16: and even some of her economic policies are sort of

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Speaker 16: a little bit reminiscent of Thatcherism. So she's also proteget

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Speaker 16: The former prime minister Shinto are they and he was

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Speaker 16: Japan's longest serving prime minister and since he went, we

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01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 16: haven't really had anyone who's been around for more than

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01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 16: a year, so the hope is that she will.

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Speaker 3: Do better than that.

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Speaker 16: A lot of talk about the revival of abonomics. If

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Speaker 16: you remember, ebonomics was all about trying to spend a

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01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 16: lot of money to boost the economy. The Bank of

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Speaker 16: Japan cut interest rates into negative territory. I think the

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Speaker 16: last thing Japan needs right now is another dose of abonomics.

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01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 16: And anyway, there's no way the Bank of Japan can

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01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 16: cut interest rates, let alone into negative territory. It's actually

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01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 16: looking at putting them up at the moment. But what

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01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 16: it does signal is that Japan's going to become see

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Speaker 16: a lot more focus on trying to boost growth through borrowing,

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01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 16: through maybe some reforms of the Japanese economy, like trying

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01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 16: to get more women into the workforce, like trying to

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01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 16: reform the market to make it easier for foreign skilled

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Speaker 16: foreign workers to come in, all things that it needs

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Speaker 16: to do, but not habonomics. We're not going to see

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Speaker 16: the Bank of Japan start cutting interest rates.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Hey, thank you very much, Peter, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Look after yourself, Peter Lewis and good luck in Macaw.

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Speaker 2: Peter Lewis, Asia Business Correspondent. Obviously you know the Eagle

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01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 2: ide will pick me up on the fact that there's

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01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: a difference between being punk rocker being in a metal band,

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Speaker 2: So I apologize for that.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 2: I need to tell you this, and I've been meaning

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01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 2: to tell you all week. There is a I don't

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01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 2: love the ETS. The ETS if you listen to the

1902
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 2: experts that this is the missions trading scheme, the ETS

1903
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 2: is going to fall apart within the next or probably

1904
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 2: twelve years. So we're just putting ourselves through unnecessary pain

1905
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 2: having stuff in the ETS. Anyway, there is a woman

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01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 2: called Renee Gens who's a sustainability and energy manager at

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01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,959
Speaker 2: Dominion Salt, and she has launched a petition on Parliament's

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01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 2: website to basically, I think as get rid of the ETS,

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01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 2: or take electricity out of the ETS or something I

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01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 2: can't remember exactly, but basically it does. It makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Her point, she writes this, we have to consider rising

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01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 2: household costs because electricity generation is still included in the ETS.

1913
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 2: Removing it would be a straightforward way to lower power

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Speaker 2: bills for everyone. Thermal firming is essential for the security

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01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 2: of supply. It is not a nice to have. The

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01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 2: ETS adds no value to the electricity system, which is

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01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 2: absolutely right. So I wish I could tell you what

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Speaker 2: the petition actually does. It feels like isn't that an

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Speaker 2: absolute dropping of the ball by me?

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Speaker 14: Yes, it is.

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01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: It is a dropping of the ball by me. But

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01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 2: remember I did go to the gym and went too

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01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 2: hard today, So give me a second and I'll tell

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01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 2: you what the petition does. Sixteen away from seven everything.

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Speaker 1: From SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour with

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Speaker 1: Heather dup cl and Mass for Insurance Investments and Huie

1927
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: Safer and you're in good hands News talks'd.

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Speaker 2: Be it's a review of the ETS. Gosh, I hate reviews,

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01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 2: don't you hate reviews? Reviews? Sometimes reviews just delay the

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Speaker 2: inevitable or just put off, you know, you just put

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Speaker 2: off having to make the tough call.

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Speaker 14: But I'll take a.

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Speaker 2: Review ahead of doing nothing, instead of doing nothing, So

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Speaker 2: that's what that petitions for. It's thirteen away from seven

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Speaker 2: now Gail Downey our UK correspondents with us a logo,

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Speaker 2: Hi there, so is Starmer is still in India?

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Speaker 10: Is he?

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Speaker 23: He's on his way back?

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Speaker 19: He's been there to discuss a trade deal between the

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Speaker 19: UK and India. He says it's a launch pad. The

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Speaker 19: meeting is a launch pad for closer ties. The trade

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Speaker 19: deal between UK and India has yet to be put

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Speaker 19: in place, but the government is already claiming it will

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Speaker 19: lead to two billion dollars worth of investment and seven

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Speaker 19: thousand jobs being.

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Speaker 2: Created in the UK.

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Speaker 14: It's an interesting one, but.

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Speaker 2: The tract has already been done some time ago. So

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Speaker 2: why the ongoing visits.

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Speaker 19: Well, nothing actually at this very moment has been put

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Speaker 19: in place, so it's now kind of next steps if

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Speaker 19: you like. They've discussed what they want to do. Interestingly,

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Speaker 19: he took a trade delegation of born one hundred CEOs, entrepreneurs,

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Speaker 19: cultural leaders and university vice chancellors with him, and he

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Speaker 19: was quoted as saying he has to get a bigger

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Speaker 19: plane to fit everyone in who wanted to go. Everybody's

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Speaker 19: keen to have a piece.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of a place that's definitely on the app, isn't

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Speaker 2: it now? Rishis next. So he's got himself a job

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Speaker 2: at Anthropic.

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Speaker 19: Yes, and it's an interesting one because he's become a

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Speaker 19: paid advisor at Microsoft and as you say, the artificial

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Speaker 19: intelligence startup Anthropic. He'll continue to work as an MP

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Speaker 19: while he's being paid to work with his other companies,

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Speaker 19: and he said that he plans to donate all his

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Speaker 19: earnings for a charity he's set up with his wife,

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Speaker 19: is called the Richmond Project and aims to tackle numerous

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Speaker 19: problems in the UK.

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Speaker 2: What does it say about how much work he's doing

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Speaker 2: as an MP, though.

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Speaker 19: Well, that's an interesting one, he has said, and in

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Speaker 19: his last Prime Minister's questions he did say, you know,

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Speaker 19: my home's in Yorkshire, my heart is in Yorkshire and

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Speaker 19: all that. But how he'll juggle the two I don't know.

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Speaker 19: There's also rules around what ex ministers and xmps can

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Speaker 19: do in terms of lobbying on behalf of you know,

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Speaker 19: companies that they take up.

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Speaker 2: Work with, and the rules are very strict.

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Speaker 19: Actually he can't lobby on behalf of any of the

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Speaker 19: tech firms, but they obviously feel that he's got something

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Speaker 19: worth having because both Microsoft and and as you say,

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Speaker 19: Anthropic are paying him to do so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well for your point, now, what's the problem with

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Speaker 2: the licensing rules on the pubs and the bars.

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Speaker 19: Well, the licensing rules have always been a bit antiquated,

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Speaker 19: let's say around how long they can open for, what

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Speaker 19: days they can open for, and gradually and gradually and

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Speaker 19: gradually these have kind of been pulled back so that

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Speaker 19: people can and open their part, their bar, their club

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Speaker 19: a bit longer. And this really is another push to

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Speaker 19: try and help the UK economy. So they're now having

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Speaker 19: a fast track. The government said, look, we're having a

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Speaker 19: full four week fast track call for evidence from publand

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Speaker 19: lords and people living locally who'd obviously be affected if

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Speaker 19: you live near a pub about about increasing hours and

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Speaker 19: these music venues, you know, one offs that people can have. However,

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Speaker 19: there are concerns that if you do relax the rules

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Speaker 19: too much around alcohol, it could, on the other hand,

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Speaker 19: lead to more antisocial behavior. So it's got this four

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Speaker 19: week review and we'll, as you talked about reviews, a

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Speaker 19: four week review and we'll see what so what happens

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Speaker 19: from their reviews.

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Speaker 2: Look After Yourself girl has been lovely to have you

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Speaker 2: on the show this week. There's Gal Downey, UK correspondent.

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Speaker 2: Hither is the dog in the car again?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 2: Did you hear the dog? So I think we know

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Speaker 2: the answers. The dog got put in the car again.

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Speaker 2: All right, So the BBC's done this piece on it,

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Speaker 2: just explaining how it is that Trump managed to land

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Speaker 2: us in a situation with the Gaza breakthrough that was,

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Speaker 2: you know, which Biden was never able to do. Now,

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Speaker 2: I had started to wonder if it may have been

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Speaker 2: possible that the pressure, like if we got to the

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Speaker 2: point where we are right now because all of these

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Speaker 2: in these states started recognizing, all these countries started recognizing

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Speaker 2: Palestine as a state. No, that is not what got

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Speaker 2: us to this point. It was the strike on Qatar.

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Speaker 2: The strike on Qatar was the thing that got Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump so upset that he basically called Benjamin Netanyahu in

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Speaker 2: and said, right, that's enough, You've gone way too far.

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Speaker 2: You need to sort this out. And he basically made

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Speaker 2: ben him and net Ya who called Katar and apologized

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Speaker 2: to them personally while he sat nearby and monitored the situation. Then,

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Speaker 2: because we're given I mean, Trump has been given so

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Speaker 2: much grief for his business dealings in the Middle East,

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Speaker 2: but it would appear that the business dealings in the

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Speaker 2: Middle East may actually have helped to get to the

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Speaker 2: situation to the point where it is right now, because

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Speaker 2: he had long standing ties with them at least, and

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Speaker 2: they trusted him to some extent. And of course he's

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Speaker 2: had you know, in the previous administration. He's done things

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Speaker 2: like the Abraham Accords and so on, and so it's

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Speaker 2: built up a little bit of kind of favor. So

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Speaker 2: as a result of that, he was able to use

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Speaker 2: his relationship with the Middle East, with with the Arab

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Speaker 2: countries there to weigh in on Hamas and force them

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Speaker 2: to take the deal. Also, the fact that the Europeans

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Speaker 2: were annoyed, so maybe the State of Palestine thing did

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Speaker 2: play a bit of a role in there, that the

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Speaker 2: Europeans were annoyed split from America publicly on it, that

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Speaker 2: played apart. But also just the mere fact that he

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Speaker 2: has a better relationship with Benjamin Nyahu than Biden is

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Speaker 2: the reason he was able to do this, and Biden

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Speaker 2: was never Eight away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather tops Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: Just going back to what you said about the voter

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Speaker 2: turn out. This is for tomorrow because I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you know it, but tomorrow is the local body elections.

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Speaker 2: No most of us didn't. Low percentage is good for

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Speaker 2: local government, as it's normally the rate payers that vote.

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Speaker 2: In the past, you've had left wing campaigns that have

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Speaker 2: energized the non rate payer voters to spend free money

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Speaker 2: for a better community. Now yeah, okay, I'm not even

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Speaker 2: going to argue with that, and it might make some sense,

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Speaker 2: I suppose to some degree. Now, today is an auspicious

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Speaker 2: day because today is the very last day of Libby

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Speaker 2: the producer being with us, and Libby Libby deserves to

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Speaker 2: have her say in response to all of the grief

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Speaker 2: that we've been giving her, because Libby has very admirably

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Speaker 2: filled in on the show for producer ants who I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you realize, has actually been on the

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Speaker 2: first holiday of his life in I don't know, first

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Speaker 2: holiday in like fifteen years. It's gone to Japan for

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Speaker 2: five weeks, so he's going to come back all, you know,

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Speaker 2: cool and and sophisticated and stuff. Libby, has it been

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Speaker 2: the worst five weeks of your life? Or would you

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Speaker 2: recommend it? Would you recommend to come again? I'd come again,

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Speaker 2: would you if you'd have me? Oh yeah, we will

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Speaker 2: have you come again anytime. Yeah, Oh yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: thank you, Libby. That's saying a lot coming from you,

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Speaker 2: and also do you want to address the allegations that

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Speaker 2: you're in fact a misogynist.

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Speaker 14: There is a different suit coming your way.

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Speaker 2: Okay, used to that? Just go be a say they'll

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Speaker 2: side with you, they hate me. What have you got

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Speaker 2: for us? I've got something over you. Better make it good.

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Speaker 2: Let me because it's your last one. I'm very excited

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Speaker 2: about this.

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Speaker 3: I've got no one else but Victoria Beckham to take

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Speaker 3: us out, throwing all.

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Speaker 19: The way back to two thousand and one years because

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Speaker 19: her new documentary is out.

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Speaker 2: Oh mate, it's pan have you seen it? And by haters?

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Speaker 18: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Have you watched it? Though, I'm going to watch Oh

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Speaker 2: so that's before you watch it. You've already decried the

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Speaker 2: reviewers because they're the haters? Are they they are? Okay,

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Speaker 2: because it did say it's all posh and no spice,

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Speaker 2: like there's nothing sassy. And if you've watched the Beckham documentary,

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Speaker 2: it's very it's very controlled, isn't it.

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Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, you don't become a Beckham without being controlled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, they're not even friends with one

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Speaker 2: of their sons at the moment. So okay, well we'll

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Speaker 2: see how it goes. We'll see how it goes, and

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Speaker 2: then if it turns out to in fact being exactly

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Speaker 2: what the producer, the reviews have said, and all posh,

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Speaker 2: no spies, we'll just talk smack about Libby. She won't

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Speaker 2: be here to defend herself. Libby, it's been lovely to

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Speaker 2: have you on the show. Thank you. You're welcome back anytime.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Go and have yourself a lovely weekend. We'll

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Speaker 2: see you again on Monday. Newsoks e b.

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Speaker 24: Me that that's a jot think.

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