1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: On the show yesterday that yesterday this is going for 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: growth theme. I asked Nichola Willis, the Finance Minister, if 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: she would cut the corporate tax rate. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: We're not as competitive as we used to be. We 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: can't take a tax off the table because it could 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: make a difference to our competitiveness. We always have to 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: balance that against our other pressing needs. 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: She has said she is actively looking at the corporate 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: tax rate. Currently it sits at twenty eight percent. The 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: OECD average is twenty four percent. We've been at twenty 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: eight since twenty eleven. Singapore's corporate rate is seventeen. Ireland's 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: is twelve and a half. Remember Ireland, we all want 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: to be like Ireland. To discuss tax advisory expert Robin 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: Oliver from Oliver Shaw is with me, Good evening evening. 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: How do we rank. 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: Really lobally? As a bitister said, we're not competitive internationally 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: and particularly for a small country. We're more like Ireland 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: in Singapore, as you say, seventeen twelve point five, not 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: like the UK and Europe twenty five, US twenty one. 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: We are twenty eight. We stand out uncompetitive and I 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: think the government's right to say we want to be Ireland, 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: we want to be Singapore, a successful small open economy. 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: How low can we go? 24 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: Well, the governments that a buide. It's made for your 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: commitments to balance the books and what have you, but 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: to be very hard to do that if you're going 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: to cut taxes, because you have to have more expenditure 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: reductions and so forth. So the government's going to sit 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: back and really strategically think of how we put tax 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: in the next there's no point in us having a 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: marketing campaign to be Ireland or Singapore where we don't 32 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: have the product yourself, which is where we are. And 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: so we've got twenty eight percent well down to twenty 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: five that will cost us about a billion dollars paradum 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: and tax, and that still wouldn't be much competitive compared 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: to these small open economies. So we really have to 37 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 3: be bowl but targeted. 38 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: What do you mean targeted? 39 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: Who do we target? 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: How do we target them? 41 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 3: Targeted to where the tax cost is really affecting our 42 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: productivity and economic growth for most, not across the across 43 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: the board and be lovely, but where it's affecting it 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: the most, and that tends to be fine. Investment and 45 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: globally mobile talent. And there are many options here, you know, 46 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: one is to allow expensing deduction for the fore cost 47 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: of investment assets car'd to be sheeding, and you can 48 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: do things like say, and that's very expensive to do, 49 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 3: but you can say, well, we will allow you to that. 50 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: The forecast of new card and machinery over five years. 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: The fastest, the fastest appreciation. Robin, we did discuss that 52 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: with Nikola Willis as well and she said that is 53 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: absolutely on her radar as well. So there are a 54 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: couple of options I guess under the umbrella of texts 55 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: that they could look at. Robin, thank you very much 56 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: for your time. We have to leave it there. Robin Oliver, 57 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: tax advisor with Oliver Shore. For more from Hither Duplessy 58 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: Alan Drive, listen live to news talks. It'd be from 59 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.