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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks, that'd be.

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Speaker 2: Jack speaking of maths. If you've seen the movie Hidden Figures,

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Speaker 2: True Space Race Story, absolutely amazing. I do find the

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Speaker 2: maths just staggering, you know, one of thessally trivial. I know,

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Speaker 2: but I often look up at the Moon and I think, wow,

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Speaker 2: if you were, the Moon is, in my experience, often

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Speaker 2: smaller than we recall. So if you look at it

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Speaker 2: in the whole context of the sky. Obviously it depends

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Speaker 2: on where we are in the in the monthly cycle,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. But the moon is often a whole lot

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Speaker 2: smaller than I recall. And I always think, shesh. I

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Speaker 2: would imagine being charged with sending a space mission to

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Speaker 2: the Moon and having to direct a rocket in the

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Speaker 2: right direction, So having to calculate the curvature of the Earth,

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Speaker 2: the impact of the atmosphere, the Earth's rotation, and where

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Speaker 2: the Moon is in the sky at one time and

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Speaker 2: make sure that you send a rocket in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that alone is just incredibly complex, right,

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Speaker 2: And you know, that's probably the simplest of the many

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Speaker 2: gazillion equations that NASA's scientist, engineers and supercomputers will be

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Speaker 2: will be facing as they as they organize these kind

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Speaker 2: of missions. Anyway, I just find it. I find it

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Speaker 2: utterly staggering. Ninety two ninety two. If you want to

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Speaker 2: send as a messager, I'll get more of your feedback

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Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes. Kevin Milner's with us this morning,

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Speaker 2: though I know he has been delighting in Artemis as well.

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Speaker 2: Have you continued following it this week?

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Speaker 3: Given I have, I have to some extent though There's

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Speaker 3: been a lot of a lot of news around and

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Speaker 3: a lot of issues to grapple with. But I I

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Speaker 3: share your excitement and I had excuse me, I had

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Speaker 3: my thumb out in front of me. I wonder how

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Speaker 3: many people around New Zealand have had their arm out

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Speaker 3: with their thumb up on your request, said, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean I do. I just find the geometry really

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Speaker 2: amazing because I think that that sense of wonder and perspective,

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Speaker 2: when you are reminded of how kind of infinitesimal we

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Speaker 2: are in the grand context of the cosmos, that really

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Speaker 2: is hammered home when you see the Earth as a

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Speaker 2: whole in space rather than as spectacular as the viewers

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Speaker 2: from the International Space Station. You need to get out

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Speaker 2: of that Earth orbit in order to actually get that

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Speaker 2: full perspective, and no one's had that for fifty years,

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Speaker 2: No human beings had that since since nineteen seventy two.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I just think I think it's really amazing.

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Speaker 2: And the photographs that have been sending back it just

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Speaker 2: bananas that they really are amazing. But anyway, you have

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Speaker 2: music on your mind this morning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: While the top of the news was all around run

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Speaker 3: really this week and quite rightly and of course Hadamus too,

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Speaker 3: down the bottom of the news was the release of

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Speaker 3: a new single by Paul McCartney. It's a sentimental ballad

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Speaker 3: called the Days We Left Behind about his childhood for

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Speaker 3: it's from an upcoming album called The Boys of Dungeon Lane.

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Speaker 3: It's a sweet, simple song from the now eighty three

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Speaker 3: year old whose voice sounds weak, a bit very familiar,

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Speaker 3: and the video includes old black and white photos from

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Speaker 3: Paul McCartney's childhood in Dungeon Lane, Liverpool. My son Jake

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Speaker 3: has a friend, a music journalist in London, who tells

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Speaker 3: a story about meeting Paul McCartney for an interview. In

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Speaker 3: my mind any story about meeting Paul McCartney is worth retelling,

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Speaker 3: so here it is. It was arranged for the story

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Speaker 3: to be of this journalist to be picked up in

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Speaker 3: a car from central London and taken to McCartney's recording

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Speaker 3: studio in East Sussex. When he got there, he was

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Speaker 3: hagging into the kitchen and asked wait. He hadn't had

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Speaker 3: any breakfast because of nerves, but was now famished. After

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Speaker 3: a short time, he heard a car pull up, someone

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Speaker 3: got out and walked to the house whistling. He contends

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Speaker 3: the journalist that Paul McCartney's whistle was instantly recognizable, and

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Speaker 3: sure enough into the kitchen walks the greatest living songwriter. Hi,

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Speaker 3: says Paul McCartney, you hungry. I make a mean marmite bagel.

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Speaker 3: The interview went ahead with that incident and the journo

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Speaker 3: returned to London, but he says he'll never forget those

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Speaker 3: first words from the Beatles legend, I make a mean

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Speaker 3: marmite bagel. There we are listeners. Only a few of

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Speaker 3: us know that Paul McCartney makes a mean marmite bagel.

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Speaker 3: If you have any bag go on hand, you can

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Speaker 3: make one for yourself now and listen to the great

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Speaker 3: man at eighty three years old.

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Speaker 4: Way to Black reminds my past, smoky books and cheaper guitars.

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Speaker 4: One nothing, bell to last, nothing ever steams, nothing comes

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Speaker 3: Nor one.

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Speaker 2: That's lovely. So that's the days we left behind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, very sweet, very song, very very simple.

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Speaker 3: And if you're to some extent, I always expect McCartney

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Speaker 3: to come up with something totally new, but there's nothing

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Speaker 3: really totally new about the song except except it's it's

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Speaker 3: beautifully written.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing, amazing, He's he's still running music.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing that he's all.

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Speaker 2: We got to prove you don't have to do it

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Speaker 2: for us, you know, like you don't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just so much Jenner's flood. And

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Speaker 3: he'll keep writing music, I'm sure till he dies. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love that. Thank you so much, Kevin. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: what a great story. It reminds me of the time

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Speaker 2: that Hugh Jackman offered to make me a coffee. There

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Speaker 2: you go, that's the uh, not quite on the same scale.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's Paul McCart and the offering to

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Speaker 2: make a man at bagel, But maybe next level. Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, Kevin, appreciate your time this morning before

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock soup for a storm. The winds are already

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Speaker 2: blowing in North and obviously things are expected to get

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Speaker 2: a whole lot more serious over the next twenty four

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Speaker 2: hours or so as cyclone VAU makes its way to

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. Again, if you haven't got yourself organized, now

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Speaker 2: is the time to do it. Plenty of tips up

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Speaker 2: at news talks. He'd be dot co dot insed and insied.

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Speaker 2: Herol dot co dot zied as well. Thy give your feedback, Jack,

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Speaker 2: I've never texted news talks. He'd be. I'm twenty five

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Speaker 2: and your monologue just now about the artemist journey brought

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Speaker 2: tears to my eyes. Thank you Jack. For those of

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Speaker 2: us who were growing up during the Apollo missions, that

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Speaker 2: sense of grand perspective has never left us and Jack,

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Speaker 2: my husband Ian put his thumb up just as Jack suggested.

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Speaker 2: It's good and honestly, if you if you didn't do it,

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Speaker 2: just try it. I just think it's really a really

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Speaker 2: simple way of understanding something like a tiny little bit

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Speaker 2: of what that those astronauts on artemists must have felt.

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Speaker 2: If you hold your hand, hold your arm up at

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Speaker 2: full extension and put your thumb up. That is how

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Speaker 2: small the Earth would have looked when Artemis was four

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand k's away, further than any crude spaceship has

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Speaker 2: ever traveled. Yeah amazing.

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