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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from news Talks atb.

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Speaker 2: Tom Sainsbury Wear's Many Hats, actor, writer, comedian, director, host, influencer,

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Speaker 2: Oh you'll hate me saying that. Across film, TV, stage

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Speaker 2: and social media. You might know him, of course, for

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Speaker 2: his political impersonations, or for shows like Wellington, paranormal shows

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Speaker 2: like Educators. And Tom is hosting a winter special of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand's International Comedy Festival and having just returned from

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Speaker 2: a very glamorous international Sojean, he's here with us in

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Speaker 2: Studio Calda. Good morning, Hi. It's so good to see

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Speaker 2: you always, and you've just returned from Monaco. So ain't

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Speaker 2: you don't look you don't need to just rub it.

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Speaker 1: A show off my gold. No, I couldn't get into

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Speaker 1: the main casinos.

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Speaker 2: Just explain to us why you have been in Monaco,

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Speaker 2: of all places, Because we liked on Saturday mornings. We liked,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the depths of winter, we life to

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Speaker 2: think about slightly more exotic warmer climbs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I was over there. It's all feeling like

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Speaker 1: I'm flexing, but it's not. We we scraped and saved

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Speaker 1: and we went over to the can Film Festival to

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Speaker 1: pitch a new film. Okay, right, right, And while we

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Speaker 1: were there, it was like there's a few kind of

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Speaker 1: days floating around, so like three days and we're like

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Speaker 1: I was there randomly with some other friends that with you,

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Speaker 1: and we're like, let's go to Monco for the day

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Speaker 1: because I've been obsessed with I've been obsessed with micro

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Speaker 1: states from my entire life, like you know, microstates Luxembourg. Okay,

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Speaker 1: of course, yeah, and I still haven't been. I had

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to go to San Marino. I love Samarino. Yes,

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Speaker 1: have you been to San Marina?

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Speaker 2: I haven't been to San Marina. I thought I cheered

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Speaker 2: them more on the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: When you are going to San Marino, please reach out

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Speaker 1: and let me know and if if it can happen,

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Speaker 1: I'm joining you in San Marino. But anyway, we were

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Speaker 1: there and we so we spent that kind of a

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Speaker 1: day there. It's all you really need in Monico. We

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Speaker 1: were there the day before the Formula one race, so

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Speaker 1: that all set it up.

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Speaker 2: So there was lots of kind of asked this is

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Speaker 2: sounding a bit like a flex You can't know you

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Speaker 2: had a bit of downtime just before you head it

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Speaker 2: off to Khan.

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Speaker 1: And wait until you know that I was invited into

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Speaker 1: the palace and I'm now friends, but no, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Across the Yeah, my gosh. Okay, So what were you

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Speaker 2: impressions of Monaco? Then? What is it? I because I

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Speaker 2: think it looks awful from the outside. It looks like

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Speaker 2: too much money and not enough taste or people who have.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's not fair, maybe that's but you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, though it does seem a bit it's showy.

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Speaker 2: It's a showy place.

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Speaker 1: It is a showy place, but it's also kind of

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Speaker 1: like there's an element of it where they don't want

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Speaker 1: to kind of be ghost so that the really wealthy

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Speaker 1: people don't kind of show. It's not like Vegas with

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Speaker 1: everything's kind of fleshy, fleshing lights and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: It's almost it's more like implied wealth, right, which you

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Speaker 1: would relate to I do.

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Speaker 2: I relate very closely, just like how do you imply wealth?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Well, you know, well, just the clothing is just pristine,

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Speaker 1: you know, stem but not showy, like perfectly. It's like Taylor's.

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Speaker 2: Okay, It's like it's as though you're perfectly tailored and

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Speaker 2: it's been professionally launded. Is all of your clothing has

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Speaker 2: been professionally launded. That's a flex.

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Speaker 1: That's a flex and it's the you can you can

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Speaker 2: Someone's iron the sleeves as well as the main part

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Speaker 2: of the shirt you got up. It's fancy and.

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Speaker 1: If you were to have any kind of bling, it

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Speaker 1: would be your cuff links.

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Speaker 2: And that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: We're not a watch Oh no, yes, the watch tea,

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Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, yeah, and they head watching watching

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Speaker 1: watching watch watch stores and boy with the expensive.

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Speaker 2: Were they crazy? Yeah? Because you know, is it the

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Speaker 2: partique Philip. That's the one where they say I only

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Speaker 2: ever see these ads when I'm like, you know, at

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Speaker 2: an airport, and that's something that's the post. It's the one. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's that's how they do it. They have the pose.

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Speaker 2: But that the tagline. I think it is for the

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Speaker 2: partic fleet. They say, no one ever owns a partic

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Speaker 2: for leet. You merely look after it for the next generation.

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Speaker 1: You see.

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Speaker 2: You just don't get that with your Cassie. Well you

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Speaker 2: fit right and you can kind of appreciate that level

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Speaker 2: despite the formula one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you got it.

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Speaker 2: You didn't say around for the formulae I was.

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Speaker 1: Thinking about I was thinking about going for it, but

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Speaker 1: the que because I was staying in Nice, which was

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Speaker 1: a lot cheaper, just down the road. And it's just

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Speaker 1: down the road. But the next day, like the cues

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Speaker 1: I don't have done for this, so I didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: That's a flex. That's a flex. There. There's the real flex,

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Speaker 2: being able to say I'm here, I'm in Monaco at

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Speaker 2: the Grand Prixs on I'm not going to go yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How did the pitching go? Are you allowed to tell us?

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Speaker 2: Or is it?

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Speaker 1: It kind of like these kind of things, it's a beginning.

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Speaker 1: You kind of meet these people and then you've got

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Speaker 1: to develop the relationship. And our pitch went quite it

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Speaker 1: went quite well. But it's all kind of a shifting sands.

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Speaker 1: No one wants to make the first move. We've got

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Speaker 1: people that are kind of interested, but no one until

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Speaker 1: something comes, you know, it all has to lock into place.

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Speaker 2: How do you pitch it. How do you pitch a film?

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Speaker 2: Is it like shark tank?

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Speaker 1: Well, our specific thing what like most people don't. But

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Speaker 1: we were very kindly kind of hosted by the New

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Speaker 1: Zealand Film Festival. They kind of that's right. They were like,

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Speaker 1: do you have a genre piece? And so there are

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Speaker 1: seven random international film festivals around the world and they

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Speaker 1: all select filmmakers to pitch their next idea. This is

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Speaker 1: called the Fanta Fantastic seven and you so it's all

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Speaker 1: from So we were pitching against like an Egyptian film

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Speaker 1: company at Lithuanians. They were Lithuanians. All the Lithuanians I know,

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Speaker 2: That's more than most people know.

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Speaker 1: Are wonderfully eccentric. And these filmmakers their film was like

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Speaker 1: bonkers and they were bonkers and I love and you were.

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Speaker 2: Like I'll buy this film. Yeah, yeah, okay, And so

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Speaker 2: you do okay. And the thing is, I've just been

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Speaker 2: doing months of comedy festival where you come on you

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Speaker 1: Probably have people couldn't understand my egsent Someone was falling

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Speaker 2: So basically you go in and they're treating you with

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Speaker 1: Game and a very few laughs that Lithuanians did last,

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Speaker 1: of course, and also like I didn't. I hadn't really

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Speaker 1: my shirt was kind of light, but there's still you

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Speaker 2: There's nothing you can do about that either, because it's

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Speaker 2: the classic. It's like trying to lower your heart rate.

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Speaker 2: When you become aware of it the moment you're sweating,

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Speaker 2: you say, I need to stop sweating, and it makes

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Speaker 1: I've heard sanitry pets are also very good.

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Speaker 2: It's not dignified though. You look around Monaco. No one

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Speaker 2: that doesn't give away.

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Speaker 1: The re organized it so that they don't swear. They're

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Speaker 1: never in a situation where it's too hot and it's

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Speaker 2: That's again another like subtle indicator of wealth. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: so the Lithuanians are probably talking about you like you're

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Speaker 2: talking about the Lithuanians saying, Oh they're quirkiest, likely eccentric,

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Speaker 1: It's really good.

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Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, when do you reckon, you'll find out you

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Speaker 2: just gotta.

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Speaker 1: We've got it. Feels like the Brits are the most

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Speaker 1: do you you're kind of pitching to people who will

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Speaker 1: trying to jump on board. That's the Bible verb.

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Speaker 2: Can I don't tell me anything you're not supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: But there's the film because Luke Trek was kind of

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Speaker 2: so when people said, oh my god, Tom sains with

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Speaker 2: making this day, but like it wasn't designed to be

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Speaker 2: What sort of genre would it?

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Speaker 1: I would maybe it's similar, Like I think it's really funny.

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Speaker 1: Zealand dairy farming family in a micro state in a

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Speaker 1: micro state exactly. And I just love, like I just

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Speaker 1: New Zealanders behave, Like I've spent years thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: So it's all my kind of comedy. So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting because I'm sure people ask you this

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Speaker 2: And I wondered, how your because so much of your

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Speaker 2: that translates to other countries and cultures?

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent? In fact, it was only it was

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Speaker 1: only this year twenty twenty fours for some have performed

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Speaker 2: So the problem with Australia is that there are so

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Speaker 2: many kiwis as well, that's not the problem, but.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, but I would do a shout out.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, who here's New Zealand. Who's in heavy gig

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Speaker 1: think I just think Britain, Australia and New Zealand are

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Speaker 1: so culturally similar, just product difference, but how we kind

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Speaker 1: the white western kind of vibes. I think that that translates.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting. I did a video of the best video

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Speaker 1: and it's just just a stupid one of someone eating

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Speaker 1: it like that and then repeating and repeating and just

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Speaker 1: like just pull yourself together, these people. But it's done

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Speaker 1: so hugely in America for some reason, and specifically with

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Speaker 2: It strikes me that you are just doing so much stuff,

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Speaker 1: But the amazing thing about a lineup is all these

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Speaker 2: much for your time, Thank you for hearing me. That

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