WEBVTT - Alex Flint: Exercises for longevity

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<v Speaker 2>for the Health Hub and before we introduce our guest,

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<v Speaker 2>the theme that we're looking at are a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>themes to one, whether you can actually exercise and eat

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<v Speaker 2>and have an exercise and a lifestyle regime where you

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<v Speaker 2>can maybe try and give yourself a chance of mimicking

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<v Speaker 2>those people who may know, the people who live in

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<v Speaker 2>the green and what is it not the green zone

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<v Speaker 2>the blue zones around the world. You know, the Mediterranean

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<v Speaker 2>diet and you see these people they live to over

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred And I mean, is it just genetics or

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<v Speaker 2>is it just eating copious amounts of olives? Because all

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<v Speaker 2>I think is the Mediterranean diet if you don't like olives.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, that's a very simplistic and ignorant take from me.

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<v Speaker 2>But also the question around as you get older, you

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<v Speaker 2>may be sitting there thinking, you know what, I've had

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<v Speaker 2>this sort of sedentary lifestyle, but I've left it too late.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there such a thing as leaving it too late

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<v Speaker 2>to actually get yourself in order? And this is all

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<v Speaker 2>to do with longevity as well. I'm living longer, But

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<v Speaker 2>have you got to a point where you think, oh, look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just too late to turn things back physically or

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<v Speaker 2>are you one of those people who's actually made a

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<v Speaker 2>fitness come back. You know you thought, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>I've left it till I don't know, my fifties, sixties, seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. And I have seen people have turned

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<v Speaker 2>their lives around, I think even in their seventies. So

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<v Speaker 2>have you done it? And if you've got any questions,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that's one of the big questions for

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<v Speaker 2>people around fitness is off and we feel, oh, I've

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<v Speaker 2>let myself slip, I've left it too late. Well, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got the perfect guest in the studio. Of course, he

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<v Speaker 2>does deal with sometimes some more mature exercises, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>also helped people turn their lives around who may have

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<v Speaker 2>had days of glory. I mean we all had days

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<v Speaker 2>of glory, didn't we. When you're in your teens, you

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<v Speaker 2>know you've played for this team or that team I

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<v Speaker 2>played for the third fifteen or and you look back

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm never going to get in that shape again.

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<v Speaker 2>But he is involved in turning people around, and he

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<v Speaker 2>is the founder and coach at Body Talk. And his

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<v Speaker 2>name is almost need a drum roll after that introduction

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<v Speaker 2>as Alex Fluint Gaday, Alex A game.

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<v Speaker 3>Good a ten. Thank you for that kind introduction.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is your business. It's I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>if you're involved in fitness, we are by definition just

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<v Speaker 2>about everyone's trying to turn something around, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 3>They are. It's a very positive industry to work in. Basically,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone that walks through the door that I see at

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<v Speaker 3>my gym is there for self improvement, which is a

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<v Speaker 3>great thing to be a part of. But yep, everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>looking to turn something around, whether it's their on field performance,

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<v Speaker 3>their half marathon time, maybe it's their cholesterols too high,

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<v Speaker 3>or they their knees don't work quite like they used to.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're all really good things that we can chase

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<v Speaker 3>through healthy lifestyles.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of turning things around, I'm not sure that's quite

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<v Speaker 2>the right segue for me to say it. But when

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<v Speaker 2>we met, I mean, you're a you are a very

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<v Speaker 2>fit looking man, but you look like you've you look

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<v Speaker 2>like you've lost a few kilos or something. I did

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<v Speaker 2>notice that. Not that I'm tracking your fitness, you tracked mine.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, stick me on that. What's that thing

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<v Speaker 2>I swiveled around on It measus all your body fat

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Three D scanner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fun, isn't it? Anyway? What are you up to?

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<v Speaker 2>You look like you have you dropped the weights or something,

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<v Speaker 2>or you're toning down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, up until twenty twenty two, I competed in

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<v Speaker 3>powerlifting in master's powerlifting.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I love strength sports and weightlifting in general, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was competing internationally up until then. But unfortunately my body

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<v Speaker 3>just started to fail me with that really sort of

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<v Speaker 3>extreme approach, which, like any sport, you know, there's there's healthy,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's optimum, and then there's the extreme that you

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<v Speaker 3>need to be at for your sport. So unfortunately I

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<v Speaker 3>had to sort of give it away.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that mean that there's is that maybe a twinge

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<v Speaker 2>here and a twinge there, and you think, oh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I might have to just tone it down.

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<v Speaker 3>About Yeah, especially my poor old hip is not what

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<v Speaker 3>it used to be. And that's largely just I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>when you compete in any sport, you're trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>the absolute most out of your body. Actually I just

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<v Speaker 3>can't do that really really super heavy lifting, so I've

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<v Speaker 3>stopped doing that. I still weight train three times a week,

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<v Speaker 3>but now I've decided I want to run a marathon,

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<v Speaker 3>so hence all my weight is dropping off.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, scarily, there is a reasonablemount of muscle mass that's

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<v Speaker 3>come off for me as well. But yeah, I'm about

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<v Speaker 3>ten kilos lighter than Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you changing the way you're ex I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>getting rid of from marathon is one thing. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>changing the way you do weights as well for the marathon?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So my weight training has become a lot more.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say it's like a supporting role now. So I

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<v Speaker 3>view it as something which is keeping my body together

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<v Speaker 3>so that I can stay on the on the road.

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<v Speaker 3>So I do a lot more kind of prehab and rehabilitation,

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<v Speaker 3>soul work and functional strengths just to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>all the things that running can kind of I guess

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<v Speaker 3>bang up a little bit in your hamstrings, you lower back,

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<v Speaker 3>your glutes, you're upper back miles. Yeah, I do a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of strength working that. But still there is still

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<v Speaker 3>probably some stuff that we'll talk about later today, some

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<v Speaker 3>key lifts that you want to keep in your your regime,

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<v Speaker 3>regardless of whatelse what else.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just making a note of that right now. Actually

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny, but so how long are you giving yourself

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<v Speaker 2>to train for the marathon?

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<v Speaker 3>Specifically about sixteen weeks. But I've been at it a

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<v Speaker 3>bit longer than that. I'd run a half marathon. At

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<v Speaker 3>the end of last year I did the Queenstown half

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<v Speaker 3>Marathon and then I did the the Auckland Waterfront one.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've been at it for a while, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen weeks. Honestly, it's a It's the total opposite end

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<v Speaker 3>of the spectrum to strength sports. And I still I've

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<v Speaker 3>run twenty four k today and I still think, how

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<v Speaker 3>am I ever going to get that's some forty two kilometers.

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<v Speaker 3>I've not built a low way.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, funny thing is I when I arrived at work,

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<v Speaker 2>I often go and to have a chat at the

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<v Speaker 2>news desk just say you know what's going on? One

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<v Speaker 2>of the what's you know? What are the exciting stories

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, and our news director Danakha I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I find it. Didn't see you last weekend, And all

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<v Speaker 2>I do is I just I don't think I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen down standing up because she's always at the news

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<v Speaker 2>desk working hard, and she said, I was are way down.

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<v Speaker 2>I did the rot Room marathon last week Wow, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's you know, But she seems to the way

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<v Speaker 2>she described it. I wouldn't say she found it effortless.

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<v Speaker 2>She talked about how heart it was, but she did

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<v Speaker 2>sort of discovery did the marathon. That's incredible. Even trumpet it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like, you know whatever, just drop that in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I have quite a few marathon runners, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>women that come to my gym that run marathon, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've gained a whole new level of respect for just

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<v Speaker 3>what it takes. You know, and it's not only the

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<v Speaker 3>actual event, it's the training and you know, the dedication.

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<v Speaker 3>So everyone out there that's run a marathon have huge

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<v Speaker 3>respect for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the training would be the harder part, because

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<v Speaker 2>at least with the marath this is just I've never

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<v Speaker 2>done one, so what do I know? But I have

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<v Speaker 2>I think the tough days when you don't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>doing that run, and the conditions you'd have to go

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<v Speaker 2>out and pushing yourself. If your training on your own,

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to when you're in a marathon, there must

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<v Speaker 2>be some level of emotional impetus that you get from

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that you are one of I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds or thouds of people doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you definitely get swept up in the crowds is

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<v Speaker 3>a huge part of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the other thing is just a discipline. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>like every Saturday or Sunday on shaping up to do

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<v Speaker 3>this really long run. And you know that means that

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of stuff that you have to put

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<v Speaker 3>on hold.

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<v Speaker 2>So have you done twenty sand morning, twenty four this morning?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Good, good good, I'm glad, you're glad you made it.

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<v Speaker 3>In Yeah, why don't you just run and slower?

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<v Speaker 2>Except hey, now, is it is it ever too late

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<v Speaker 2>to sort yourself out? You think you've you've left it

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<v Speaker 2>too long? I mean how late? It is too late?

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<v Speaker 3>The best to saying I've ever heard is the best

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<v Speaker 3>time to start, Well, it's actually come from planting a tree.

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<v Speaker 3>The best time to plant a tree was yesterday and

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<v Speaker 3>the second best time is today. And that's exactly the

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<v Speaker 3>same when it comes to exercise. So while the best

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<v Speaker 3>benefits are going to come through a build up over time,

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<v Speaker 3>regardless of that what the style of exercise you're doing,

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<v Speaker 3>it really is never too late. And when I was

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<v Speaker 3>at university, I can still remember doing looking at some

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<v Speaker 3>studies that were using some women in nursing homes that

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<v Speaker 3>could no longer stand up, and after six short weeks

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<v Speaker 3>of doing physical therapy and exercise, our back standing up.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you extrapolate that out, that means that they're

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<v Speaker 3>now more likely to be able to walk there, obviously

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<v Speaker 3>more able to use their muscles, and from that stems

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<v Speaker 3>a flow of maybe gaining back some independence. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>someone you know that's in the very late stages of

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<v Speaker 3>their life. We specialize at my gym in forties, fifties,

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<v Speaker 3>and sixty year olds and that it is incredible the

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<v Speaker 3>shape that people get in and we have. I can

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<v Speaker 3>think of one lady actually who had never ever lifted

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<v Speaker 3>a weight in her life until she was in her sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>When she first came into our gym. It's been a

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<v Speaker 3>slow burn for her. Her expectations probably had to be

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<v Speaker 3>tempered a bit because I think she thought things were

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<v Speaker 3>going to turn around.

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<v Speaker 2>Very next week.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm rocking, yeah, Yeah, And she's incredible now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>My head coach and my gym Phil and I just

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<v Speaker 3>marvel about it every day, like what she's like. Literally,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's like that sliding door analogy. Where would

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<v Speaker 3>she be if she just kept on down that road

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<v Speaker 3>and now turning it around so whether it's muscle mass,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's cardiovascular fitness, your flexibility. Most of the research

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<v Speaker 3>shows that well into our seventies we can still get

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<v Speaker 3>very good improvement at some stage. Obviously, you know, once

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<v Speaker 3>we've passed our thirties and into our forties and fifties,

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<v Speaker 3>potentially we start to look at more kind of hold

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<v Speaker 3>on trying to hold on to what we've got. But

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<v Speaker 3>that really depends on where you're at at that time.

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<v Speaker 3>So if we're talking about an All Black, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like they're going to they had elite levels of fitness,

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<v Speaker 3>so for them to hold onto that over their life.

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<v Speaker 3>But if we've got someone who's not really done much exercise,

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<v Speaker 3>they can get huge improvements right throughout life, regardless of age.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually wonder whether it's sometimes it's harder for the

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<v Speaker 2>elite sports people because there's i mean the sacrifice and

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<v Speaker 2>time sacrifice to maintain yourself in that sort of peak

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<v Speaker 2>physical condition, and it must be exhausting. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>get to a normal life where you sort of just

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<v Speaker 2>tone it down, there'll be and as you will have seen,

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<v Speaker 2>you get problems with keeping the same diet when you're

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<v Speaker 2>not burning the same thing. Before you know, what you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at is not a shadow of your formal self,

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<v Speaker 2>but about three shadows.

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<v Speaker 3>And three chins together.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in a way, I wonder if is that

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<v Speaker 2>a harder adjustment for people who can remember the glory

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<v Speaker 2>days and think, God, I'm a tragedy.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it comes down actually a lot too, because obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>once you've finished a professional sports career, you don't need

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<v Speaker 3>the same level of physical abilities. So it depends why

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing it after that. So if you've still got purpose,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're someone that thrives on competition, you know that

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<v Speaker 3>that's someone that you know if you look at Rick himccall.

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<v Speaker 3>I was about to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, the poster boy must be Richie mccaugh. Isn't he insufferable?

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<v Speaker 2>We see that calling Richie? Tell us what keeps you going?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it literally he went from being this behemoth of

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<v Speaker 2>a flanker and world rugby legend to some of you

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<v Speaker 2>must didn't recognize. But he's he must There must be

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<v Speaker 2>something hard wide in him and that he just loves that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've never met Richie, but obviously he loves competition

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<v Speaker 3>and challenging himself. But then on the other side of it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if you've if you're very injured, if you

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<v Speaker 3>were in that physical condition purely to play your sport,

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<v Speaker 3>it might not be a hobby. So therefore, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what life looks like after professional sport very it varies

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<v Speaker 3>a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what's the most obviously the thing is, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>one thing to sit on your couch and think, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm going to get up and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to go see Alex. I'm going to go see a

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<v Speaker 2>personal train and I'm going to get my life in hand.

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<v Speaker 2>But what is the what is the most important thing?

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<v Speaker 2>And to of the psychology of it, because it's one

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<v Speaker 2>thing to have the ambition and have a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>bad workouts in your back on the couch. Again, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you see as being the common denominator mentally to

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<v Speaker 2>make the change.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to start with a sense of purpose as

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<v Speaker 3>to why you're doing it and why it's important for you.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't have that, it's one of those we

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<v Speaker 3>all know that we should be out walking or going

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<v Speaker 3>to the gym, But for a lot of us, the

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<v Speaker 3>reality is we got busy lives. We've got kids or

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<v Speaker 3>grandkids or you know, work commitments, whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a body that is you feel overwhelmed, it's

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<v Speaker 3>out of shape, you're worried about your health, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>know where to start. But that sense of purpose of

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<v Speaker 3>knowing why do I want to do this? And that's

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<v Speaker 3>some really interesting things that we'll probably talk about today,

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<v Speaker 3>just knowing how much of a difference it can make,

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<v Speaker 3>especially just a couple of three things, your muscle mass,

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<v Speaker 3>your cardiovascular fitness, and your balance and agility, and what

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<v Speaker 3>a difference that can make. Often we talk about sort

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<v Speaker 3>of building a war chest. So unfortunately, as we get

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<v Speaker 3>a little on, you know, we start to our risk

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<v Speaker 3>factors for all diseases start to go up. Obviously through

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<v Speaker 3>our fifties and sixties, we're more likely to be exposed

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<v Speaker 3>to things. The higher your level of cardiovascular fitness, the

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<v Speaker 3>higher your muscle mess and the better your strength are

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<v Speaker 3>your balance and agility, the better position you are in

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to ward off, fight and come back

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<v Speaker 3>from those things. And that is all causes of mortality,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's cancer, whether it's heart disease, whether it's accidents,

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<v Speaker 3>all of those, whether it's mental health, they're all better

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<v Speaker 3>off when we're in great shape.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I mean, for me, I always thought when I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been running much lately, I've probably got to

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<v Speaker 2>get back into it. But I found that the if

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<v Speaker 2>I thought about I've got to go for a run,

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<v Speaker 2>and I imagined the beginning of the middle and the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the run, I'd be like, oh goodness me.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me, I just said, Tim, just put your

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<v Speaker 2>shoes on and get out the door, and the rest

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<v Speaker 2>will follow. Is there something in that of setting the

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<v Speaker 2>most basic of tasks and then the rest follows or

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<v Speaker 2>is that just particularly my psychology.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's definitely a great way to go about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I really think it depends. You know, you get

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<v Speaker 3>sort of a type personalities that want to plan everything

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<v Speaker 3>out and they you know, they're very meticulous, and other

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<v Speaker 3>people are sort of they just enjoy the fun side

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<v Speaker 3>of it, you know, they want to go to a class.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen you. I've seen the amount of resources you've

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<v Speaker 2>got through your app on the Body Talk, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking you're type. It's a lot of it's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of organization in that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I'm definitely an exercise nerd. I just I just

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<v Speaker 3>love it. Yeah, so my I have to have something

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<v Speaker 3>to train towards. Hence while I'm doing a run. I

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<v Speaker 3>find it very hard just I know that exercise is

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<v Speaker 3>great for my health, but I need to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to check something off, whether it's an event or there's

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<v Speaker 3>there's got to be something there for me. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so it does come down. You know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people love the social side of it, so they go

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<v Speaker 3>to group fitness classes and that's a great way to

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<v Speaker 3>do so just step in the door of that group

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<v Speaker 3>fitness class. For others, you know, the biggest barrier might

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<v Speaker 3>be they don't have time. So, like you say, just

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<v Speaker 3>put your shoes on and get out the door. But

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<v Speaker 3>the worst thing can do is sit on the couch.

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<v Speaker 2>We love your calls on this because I think every

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<v Speaker 2>look to be honest. I think most people if you

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<v Speaker 2>are wanting to get into shape and you're not, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>worries that you've let yourself slip. It's not necessarily just

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<v Speaker 2>an age question, but I use someone who's worried about

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<v Speaker 2>getting back into exercise. And if you'd like to give

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<v Speaker 2>us a call and pick Alex's brain if there's a question,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd love to hear from you. But have you successfully

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<v Speaker 2>made a fitness come back? And what's the secret to

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<v Speaker 2>your success. What because in the end, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be a triumph of mind over matter, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>it if your mind's not in there, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless you're mindlessly just and can exercise without thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>it too much, and you're just a creature of habit,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But we want your calls eight hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty ten eighty anything. Any other questions you've got

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<v Speaker 2>about getting fit and diet and looking after yourself. We're

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<v Speaker 2>with Alex Flint. He's a founder and coach at body Talk.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm by the way, I'm Alex has currently done a

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<v Speaker 2>program for me through the app and everything, as well

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<v Speaker 2>as scanning me. I don't think we need to do

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<v Speaker 2>the scanner anytime soon. I'll pup to cut out sugar first, Alex.

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<v Speaker 2>But I can tell you that it definitely is making

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<v Speaker 2>a difference, unless Alex OFFI is going to say, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to work harder. But we want your calls.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight hundred eighty ten eighty text nine two nine two.

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<v Speaker 2>It's twenty four past four News Talk s ed B.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the health of news Talk, said B.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it too late to turn your life around? Have

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<v Speaker 2>you turned your life around. We're with Alex Flint, He's

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<v Speaker 2>founder and coach at body Talk by the way, body

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<v Speaker 2>talk dot co dot nz if you want to check

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<v Speaker 2>out the resources they've got there, and Alex can design

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<v Speaker 2>a program for you no matter where you are as well,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the beauty of that app as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you've got any questions for Alex eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eighty ten eighty right, let's go to Harry Gooday.

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<v Speaker 5>So is that for Harry?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's you, Harry Gooday good.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Yeah. I wouldn't say have been a great exercise

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<v Speaker 5>During my life. I've played a fair amount of sports,

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<v Speaker 5>done the topway bike rice a few times. I'm seventy

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<v Speaker 5>three years old. I'm starting to struggle with lower back

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<v Speaker 5>pain and I just wonder if there's something that I

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<v Speaker 5>can do to actually relieve that or improve that so

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<v Speaker 5>that it's not such a restriction on exercise cad I Harry, Yeah, sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>do you get that?

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<v Speaker 6>Sorry?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I forgot to swatch alexis micro on So I

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<v Speaker 2>started talking of my fault.

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<v Speaker 3>Way we go, Harry, when do you get the back pain?

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<v Speaker 5>About four months ago, I guess, and I re prior

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<v Speaker 5>to that, I don't recall having any problems. I did

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<v Speaker 5>have a a few years ago, probably about six or

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<v Speaker 5>seven years ago. I helped a neighbor moose and furniture

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<v Speaker 5>and tweak my back. I went saw a sports medicine

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<v Speaker 5>guy and it sort of came right by itself. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that's the history of it. Yeah, so fleared up in

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<v Speaker 5>the last few months.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Harry, the first part of that always when you're

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with an injury, you've just got to be really careful.

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<v Speaker 3>At the start of the commencement of when you start

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<v Speaker 3>to bring in some strengthening exercises. There is if you

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<v Speaker 3>look up, there's a guy called Stuart McGill, doctor Stuart McGill,

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<v Speaker 3>and he came up with three exercises which, funny enough,

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<v Speaker 3>are called the Stuart McGill Big Three and they are

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<v Speaker 3>time tested when it comes to strengthening core and lower

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<v Speaker 3>back and reducing lower back pain. So the first exercise

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<v Speaker 3>is what we call an abdominal curl up. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you can imagine lying on the ground facing upwards, one

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<v Speaker 3>leg is out straight. The other one is that your

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<v Speaker 3>knee is pulled up, so you've got one knee bent

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<v Speaker 3>both that foot is flat on the ground, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we simply try and sit forward and up so you

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<v Speaker 3>can't come up very far off the ground, and we

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<v Speaker 3>hold for five seconds at a time, so we do

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<v Speaker 3>these little abdominal curl ups. We do a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>those on each side, so that's about a minute's worth

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<v Speaker 3>of it's almost like a static crunch.

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<v Speaker 2>We hold those.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the exercise number two is a plank, so no

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<v Speaker 3>doubt probably tried an abdominal plank at some stage where

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<v Speaker 3>we're sort of prone. We're facing face down and we

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<v Speaker 3>have our elbows on the ground and our feet on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground and we try and keep the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>us in a hover position. So that's the second exercise,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the third one is called a bird dog,

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<v Speaker 3>where we're on hands and knees and then we straighten

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<v Speaker 3>one arm and the opposite leg out, so it's almost

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<v Speaker 3>like we're pointing like a hunting dog. So arm goes

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<v Speaker 3>out in front, the leg goes behind. But if you

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<v Speaker 3>were to look up the Stuart McGill Big three for

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<v Speaker 3>back lower back, it's about five minutes worth of exercise

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<v Speaker 3>a day, and that will make a big inroad into

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<v Speaker 3>you getting over them, because largely when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>lower back issues. The first thing you've got to do

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<v Speaker 3>is build a really strong abdominal corset, and that's your

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<v Speaker 3>lower back muscles, the abdominals, your obliques and your front

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<v Speaker 3>abdominals and all the inner ones. So those three exercises

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<v Speaker 3>have proved to be really, really good.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for that. I will left that up.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the name again? The Big Three?

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<v Speaker 6>By who?

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<v Speaker 3>Stuart McGill.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuart McGill. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>The other issue is that it is my favorite exercise

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<v Speaker 5>is cychling fun.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you've done the top bike race. That was a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a humble brag, I think there, Harry.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, not really. I mean I used to about fourteen thousand,

0:21:38.881 --> 0:21:41.481
<v Speaker 5>just went around it every year. I mean it was

0:21:41.561 --> 0:21:47.561
<v Speaker 5>just such a wonderful event that, you know, just so

0:21:47.681 --> 0:21:52.321
<v Speaker 5>many bloody hills. Yeah, but yeah, no, I've done that

0:21:52.401 --> 0:21:55.401
<v Speaker 5>a few times, but I haven't done it for probably

0:21:55.441 --> 0:21:57.441
<v Speaker 5>five or six years. And I've seen the guys. I

0:21:57.481 --> 0:22:00.041
<v Speaker 5>did for one of three and passed away and yeah,

0:22:00.121 --> 0:22:01.801
<v Speaker 5>you know, things go on, but it's time to get

0:22:01.801 --> 0:22:04.321
<v Speaker 5>off my backside and start getting back into it. I

0:22:04.401 --> 0:22:05.041
<v Speaker 5>think in a series.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, absolutely, Harry, cycling fantastic way to strengthen your legs,

0:22:11.041 --> 0:22:14.481
<v Speaker 3>strengthen your heart, your lungs. And what we do know

0:22:14.921 --> 0:22:18.081
<v Speaker 3>is that those that for any age have the highest

0:22:18.241 --> 0:22:21.121
<v Speaker 3>aerobic fitness, they have the lowest risk of all mortality.

0:22:21.241 --> 0:22:23.881
<v Speaker 3>So you keep yourself going for longer than fitty you are,

0:22:23.921 --> 0:22:25.121
<v Speaker 3>and that bike is a great way to do it

0:22:25.121 --> 0:22:27.481
<v Speaker 3>because it takes all the stress out of your joints,

0:22:27.521 --> 0:22:29.081
<v Speaker 3>so you definitely get onto it.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheers. Actually, the back pain thing just quickly. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed. I mean, I'm getting a little bit older,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, but if I'm sitting in a static position,

0:22:36.801 --> 0:22:39.001
<v Speaker 2>you know, when you're younger, just get up and get moving.

0:22:39.041 --> 0:22:41.241
<v Speaker 2>But it's one of those things I do notice. It's, oh,

0:22:41.761 --> 0:22:45.441
<v Speaker 2>you know, just just a bit of stiffness from Is that?

0:22:45.681 --> 0:22:47.081
<v Speaker 2>Is that just something you get as you get older,

0:22:47.121 --> 0:22:48.361
<v Speaker 2>regardless of what you exercise us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's definitely postural. You know, you just examine the

0:22:51.721 --> 0:22:54.721
<v Speaker 3>positions that we sit in which are not necessarily optimal.

0:22:54.761 --> 0:22:56.761
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it doesn't take long in the day before

0:22:56.761 --> 0:23:00.801
<v Speaker 3>you catch yourself slouching, and it's you know, it's it's

0:23:00.841 --> 0:23:05.001
<v Speaker 3>a compound effect over days, months, years of bad posh

0:23:05.361 --> 0:23:07.121
<v Speaker 3>and that happens in exercise as well. You know, you

0:23:07.801 --> 0:23:11.361
<v Speaker 3>exercise in poor positions, we end up getting injured. And

0:23:11.361 --> 0:23:12.241
<v Speaker 3>it's no different.

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<v Speaker 2>Just quickly, somebody suggested to me, you know, the plank,

0:23:14.801 --> 0:23:16.681
<v Speaker 2>so you're on your elbow. It's basically press up position,

0:23:16.801 --> 0:23:18.761
<v Speaker 2>but you're on your elbows and holding yourself there for

0:23:18.961 --> 0:23:23.041
<v Speaker 2>an interminable length of time. Are you better? Somebody suggested

0:23:23.081 --> 0:23:24.681
<v Speaker 2>to me that you're better to introduce a bit of

0:23:24.681 --> 0:23:28.601
<v Speaker 2>instability that holding is so because I try and hold

0:23:28.601 --> 0:23:30.201
<v Speaker 2>myself as still as possible, because I know as you

0:23:30.241 --> 0:23:34.241
<v Speaker 2>get tired, quicker if I start twitching. But that's what's

0:23:34.321 --> 0:23:37.321
<v Speaker 2>what's what's the go with that static versus a little

0:23:37.321 --> 0:23:39.521
<v Speaker 2>bit of instability lifting a leg here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it comes down to progressive overload. So every

0:23:44.241 --> 0:23:46.601
<v Speaker 3>exercise that we do we need a stimulus from. So

0:23:46.641 --> 0:23:50.121
<v Speaker 3>if our body is already accomplished and it can do that,

0:23:50.201 --> 0:23:51.681
<v Speaker 3>then we need to find a way to challenge it.

0:23:51.681 --> 0:23:53.281
<v Speaker 3>So if you've never done a plank in your life,

0:23:53.641 --> 0:23:55.881
<v Speaker 3>you start with your knees on the ground and then slowly,

0:23:55.921 --> 0:23:58.521
<v Speaker 3>over time we get you know, knees come off the ground,

0:23:58.761 --> 0:24:01.041
<v Speaker 3>and then we start to bring in instability. So if

0:24:01.641 --> 0:24:03.641
<v Speaker 3>if you can, you want you want to bring in

0:24:03.681 --> 0:24:05.521
<v Speaker 3>some things like that. You could put your elbows on

0:24:05.521 --> 0:24:07.441
<v Speaker 3>a Swiss ball, you could go on one leg, you

0:24:07.441 --> 0:24:08.841
<v Speaker 3>could put something underneath your feet.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I'm still a beginner level. When I get

0:24:11.201 --> 0:24:13.081
<v Speaker 2>through it a minute, I'm sort of three times and

0:24:13.081 --> 0:24:14.881
<v Speaker 2>that's you know, so I need to do something else.

0:24:14.921 --> 0:24:16.521
<v Speaker 3>Then I'll bet I'll bet you can do better.

0:24:16.841 --> 0:24:19.001
<v Speaker 2>I probably can. And actually there have been some times

0:24:19.041 --> 0:24:21.121
<v Speaker 2>when I'm like a bitch, if Alex was here, come on,

0:24:21.241 --> 0:24:24.281
<v Speaker 2>you can do another ten seconds. What's wrong with you? Anyway,

0:24:25.001 --> 0:24:26.641
<v Speaker 2>It's not about me. Let's talk about you. I eight

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and eighty ten eighty Donna. Hello, Hi, Donna?

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, how are you good?

0:24:31.921 --> 0:24:32.281
<v Speaker 3>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 4>That's good. Hey, listen, I've got a question about lower

0:24:37.281 --> 0:24:41.681
<v Speaker 4>back pain as well. I've suffered since my early twenties

0:24:41.841 --> 0:24:45.801
<v Speaker 4>was quite bad lower back pain. And I've flipped a

0:24:45.881 --> 0:24:48.561
<v Speaker 4>disk and then I've obviously I've ruptured at a couple

0:24:48.561 --> 0:24:52.721
<v Speaker 4>of couple of times over the years. And what I

0:24:53.761 --> 0:24:58.121
<v Speaker 4>try and do twenty minutes of pilarates every morning, which

0:24:58.161 --> 0:25:02.281
<v Speaker 4>consists of the bood dog and the plane king. And

0:25:02.401 --> 0:25:04.361
<v Speaker 4>so I'm trying to build my core and I do

0:25:04.561 --> 0:25:07.841
<v Speaker 4>thirty minute. It's every day of power walking as well

0:25:08.361 --> 0:25:12.841
<v Speaker 4>on my lunchtime. But I'm just wondering. I recently just

0:25:13.521 --> 0:25:15.401
<v Speaker 4>you know, bent over the wrong way in the morning

0:25:15.441 --> 0:25:17.961
<v Speaker 4>to feed the cat and bang my back went on

0:25:18.041 --> 0:25:22.521
<v Speaker 4>me for about a week. And I'm just wondering if

0:25:22.561 --> 0:25:26.601
<v Speaker 4>you have any recommendations for how to get sort of

0:25:27.281 --> 0:25:31.921
<v Speaker 4>back into it as quickly as possible after injuries like that,

0:25:32.601 --> 0:25:35.401
<v Speaker 4>because at the moment I'm doing sailing as a sport

0:25:35.441 --> 0:25:37.201
<v Speaker 4>as well, and I have to wear a back brace

0:25:37.241 --> 0:25:43.881
<v Speaker 4>because there's a lot of bending over and it just yeah,

0:25:43.921 --> 0:25:46.881
<v Speaker 4>it's just quite frustrating because sometimes I can't go sailing

0:25:46.921 --> 0:25:50.361
<v Speaker 4>if my back's really really bad. So I'm just wondering

0:25:50.401 --> 0:25:54.601
<v Speaker 4>if you've got any recommendations. Am I doing the right things?

0:25:55.161 --> 0:25:57.921
<v Speaker 4>And b is there any anything else I could be doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Perhaps? Yeah, absolutely, Well, it sounds like you're really, you know,

0:26:00.681 --> 0:26:03.561
<v Speaker 3>you're onto it in terms of you're getting that daily

0:26:03.801 --> 0:26:06.481
<v Speaker 3>work in and doing things like we talked about bird

0:26:06.481 --> 0:26:09.721
<v Speaker 3>dogs and planking and so forth. Is fantastic. When you've

0:26:09.761 --> 0:26:12.081
<v Speaker 3>had a long term history of back pain, there's probably

0:26:12.081 --> 0:26:14.881
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more to it. Knowing sort of what

0:26:14.961 --> 0:26:18.121
<v Speaker 3>if there's any underlying damage. There is one thing, but

0:26:18.801 --> 0:26:21.761
<v Speaker 3>probably the simplest way to think about it is what

0:26:21.801 --> 0:26:26.001
<v Speaker 3>I find is often back pain or back incidents happen

0:26:26.361 --> 0:26:29.441
<v Speaker 3>doing unusual things like it literally will be like you know,

0:26:29.441 --> 0:26:32.241
<v Speaker 3>bending over to feed the cat, or someone's been gardening

0:26:32.281 --> 0:26:34.281
<v Speaker 3>and they're you know, they're on an odd angle. So

0:26:35.121 --> 0:26:38.961
<v Speaker 3>our backs get get caught in odd positions without being

0:26:39.001 --> 0:26:41.441
<v Speaker 3>able to give you like a full progressive program that

0:26:41.521 --> 0:26:43.921
<v Speaker 3>goes on for months. What you need to do is

0:26:44.481 --> 0:26:48.401
<v Speaker 3>start to challenge your back and your hips. So one

0:26:48.401 --> 0:26:49.921
<v Speaker 3>of the big things is making sure you've got plenty

0:26:49.961 --> 0:26:51.521
<v Speaker 3>of glute strength. I don't know if you do anything

0:26:51.521 --> 0:26:53.521
<v Speaker 3>with a glute band at all, some sort of glut

0:26:53.601 --> 0:26:57.081
<v Speaker 3>bridges or some crab walks the marches.

0:26:57.561 --> 0:27:00.241
<v Speaker 4>No, I'll probably have to start doing that, yeah.

0:27:01.601 --> 0:27:04.201
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, So just look up glute bands and

0:27:04.281 --> 0:27:07.801
<v Speaker 3>glute band exit sizes. And then the next thing that

0:27:07.841 --> 0:27:10.441
<v Speaker 3>you really need to look at doing is starting to

0:27:10.481 --> 0:27:15.041
<v Speaker 3>incorporate exercises which are getting you to hinge at the hips.

0:27:15.241 --> 0:27:18.641
<v Speaker 3>So take that to the end point would say, well,

0:27:18.961 --> 0:27:22.001
<v Speaker 3>the biggest hinge of your hips is like doing a deadlift. Now,

0:27:22.641 --> 0:27:23.961
<v Speaker 3>if you're going to pick it, if you hope to

0:27:24.001 --> 0:27:25.801
<v Speaker 3>be able to pick things off the ground or probably

0:27:25.801 --> 0:27:27.961
<v Speaker 3>you know when you're in a sailing position, you know

0:27:28.001 --> 0:27:30.561
<v Speaker 3>you've got your legs in a strong position and your

0:27:30.601 --> 0:27:34.121
<v Speaker 3>back's upright. You really need to be strong in those positions,

0:27:34.161 --> 0:27:37.681
<v Speaker 3>but also learn how to do them well. And that's

0:27:37.921 --> 0:27:41.401
<v Speaker 3>so that you get movement proficiency, because sometimes we just

0:27:41.601 --> 0:27:45.041
<v Speaker 3>don't quite understand that the position that we're in and

0:27:45.121 --> 0:27:48.441
<v Speaker 3>our discs can be exposed and then we can end

0:27:48.521 --> 0:27:50.761
<v Speaker 3>up with an injury. So the next thing for you

0:27:50.761 --> 0:27:55.441
<v Speaker 3>would probably be to go into looking at movements strength,

0:27:55.521 --> 0:27:59.121
<v Speaker 3>movements that incorporate hip hinging, whether that's deadlifting or you know,

0:27:59.321 --> 0:28:01.561
<v Speaker 3>like actually a bird dog is the first one of those,

0:28:01.601 --> 0:28:03.481
<v Speaker 3>so you sort of and you move on from there.

0:28:03.521 --> 0:28:07.161
<v Speaker 3>So doing those types of X sizes strategically over time,

0:28:07.561 --> 0:28:10.161
<v Speaker 3>making them slightly more advanced, that's probably your way out

0:28:10.201 --> 0:28:12.881
<v Speaker 3>of that. But I would also look at that glute strength.

0:28:13.881 --> 0:28:15.761
<v Speaker 4>Okay, cool, excellent, Thank you for that.

0:28:16.001 --> 0:28:16.641
<v Speaker 6>Appreciate that.

0:28:16.841 --> 0:28:21.881
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Dona. A couple of questions here, as a rower

0:28:22.401 --> 0:28:24.921
<v Speaker 2>a rowing machine's good for overall fitness? How do they

0:28:24.961 --> 0:28:25.681
<v Speaker 2>fit into the whole thing?

0:28:25.721 --> 0:28:28.961
<v Speaker 3>They're fantastic. Yeah, I think if there is one piece

0:28:29.001 --> 0:28:33.041
<v Speaker 3>of equipment that you're going to get provided again actually

0:28:33.081 --> 0:28:35.041
<v Speaker 3>a little bit what we're talking about with Donna. You

0:28:35.081 --> 0:28:37.161
<v Speaker 3>do need to make sure that you row with good posture,

0:28:37.961 --> 0:28:40.601
<v Speaker 3>and I do see people injure their backs quite badly

0:28:40.641 --> 0:28:43.161
<v Speaker 3>if they sort of slouch when they row. So a

0:28:43.281 --> 0:28:48.081
<v Speaker 3>rowing machine absolutely fantastic. It hits everything. Strength, fitness is

0:28:48.121 --> 0:28:50.561
<v Speaker 3>a great all round tool. It's low impact. But just

0:28:50.721 --> 0:28:53.481
<v Speaker 3>learn to row well, you know, whether that's YouTube videos

0:28:53.561 --> 0:28:54.681
<v Speaker 3>or you get someone to coach you.

0:28:54.761 --> 0:28:56.841
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, absolutely on that machine.

0:28:56.881 --> 0:28:57.041
<v Speaker 6>Thing.

0:28:57.081 --> 0:28:59.881
<v Speaker 2>Somebody else has asked about the cross training machine? Are

0:28:59.881 --> 0:29:01.881
<v Speaker 2>those cross training things? Are those the one where you're

0:29:01.881 --> 0:29:04.321
<v Speaker 2>sort of like cross country skiing, like you're sort of

0:29:04.321 --> 0:29:07.001
<v Speaker 2>going up and down with your hands and a push pull,

0:29:07.041 --> 0:29:09.361
<v Speaker 2>and then you're also marching up and down with your feets.

0:29:09.441 --> 0:29:11.921
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so your legs are sort of sliding back and

0:29:11.961 --> 0:29:14.401
<v Speaker 3>forth and then you've got your arms. Yeah, it's like.

0:29:14.761 --> 0:29:17.321
<v Speaker 2>Skin Nordic skiing. That's the one I'm thinking.

0:29:17.721 --> 0:29:19.921
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so those who are obviously invented because the Nordic

0:29:19.961 --> 0:29:22.081
<v Speaker 3>skiers have got some of the best Votwo max fitness.

0:29:22.161 --> 0:29:24.521
<v Speaker 3>They're aerobic fitness in the world. You know, they're up

0:29:24.521 --> 0:29:29.161
<v Speaker 3>there and you're upright, but there's no impact, so it's

0:29:29.161 --> 0:29:30.801
<v Speaker 3>great in terms of like running can be hard on

0:29:30.801 --> 0:29:33.561
<v Speaker 3>your joints, but being upright in that position means there's

0:29:33.561 --> 0:29:35.601
<v Speaker 3>more gravity working against you, so your heart's got to

0:29:35.641 --> 0:29:38.721
<v Speaker 3>work harder. So they're great. One thing on that though,

0:29:38.801 --> 0:29:43.001
<v Speaker 3>is there's no one best exercise. Unfortunately, if you're talking

0:29:43.001 --> 0:29:45.881
<v Speaker 3>about you know, for home, that's great one piece of

0:29:45.921 --> 0:29:48.081
<v Speaker 3>equipment if that's going to get you on it. But

0:29:48.281 --> 0:29:52.161
<v Speaker 3>variation is key because what happens over time our bodies

0:29:52.201 --> 0:29:55.721
<v Speaker 3>adapt to whatever we do. So if you think about

0:29:55.761 --> 0:29:58.321
<v Speaker 3>someone who is, for example, a great marathon runner, then

0:29:58.761 --> 0:30:01.921
<v Speaker 3>what they've trained is efficiency in running, so that is

0:30:02.001 --> 0:30:04.801
<v Speaker 3>no longer such a difficult task for them. Put them

0:30:04.801 --> 0:30:06.961
<v Speaker 3>in a swimming pool and that might be very hard

0:30:06.961 --> 0:30:10.121
<v Speaker 3>for them. So if they were looking for a way

0:30:10.161 --> 0:30:13.041
<v Speaker 3>to challenge their body or you know, and it wasn't

0:30:13.081 --> 0:30:15.721
<v Speaker 3>that they were competing in running, then you've got to

0:30:15.761 --> 0:30:17.841
<v Speaker 3>look for what are the things that challenge you. So

0:30:18.481 --> 0:30:21.081
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to fitness, do lots of different stuff.

0:30:21.081 --> 0:30:23.161
<v Speaker 3>When it comes to strength training, do lots of different stuff.

0:30:23.241 --> 0:30:27.881
<v Speaker 3>Yoga pilates are all great in terms of mobility, flexibility

0:30:28.081 --> 0:30:30.961
<v Speaker 3>and the variation of the spice Alife.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're going to take some more calls in just

0:30:33.441 --> 0:30:36.241
<v Speaker 2>a moment, but we need to take another break and

0:30:36.281 --> 0:30:37.761
<v Speaker 2>we'll be back in just to ticket. It's twenty to

0:30:37.801 --> 0:30:38.481
<v Speaker 2>five newstalks.

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<v Speaker 6>It beat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, welcome back to the Weekend Collective. This is the

0:31:04.361 --> 0:31:07.361
<v Speaker 2>health of Alex Flint from Bodytalk, Dot, cod At and Zaid.

0:31:07.401 --> 0:31:09.521
<v Speaker 2>He's with us. He's a founder and coach there and

0:31:09.601 --> 0:31:11.881
<v Speaker 2>does great work with turning your life around. By the way,

0:31:11.881 --> 0:31:13.521
<v Speaker 2>if you are someone who's thinking of it, whether it's

0:31:13.561 --> 0:31:14.961
<v Speaker 2>too late or not, give us a call you've got

0:31:14.961 --> 0:31:19.041
<v Speaker 2>any questions. Just before we go to Tom, here's a

0:31:19.121 --> 0:31:21.841
<v Speaker 2>question from I'm a thirty five year old male. I

0:31:21.841 --> 0:31:26.161
<v Speaker 2>have a fifteen year old son who's starting to lift

0:31:26.201 --> 0:31:28.801
<v Speaker 2>more than me at the gym. He's almost half a

0:31:28.841 --> 0:31:31.441
<v Speaker 2>foot taller. How do I keep up? Or is it

0:31:31.521 --> 0:31:32.841
<v Speaker 2>just time to accept reality?

0:31:35.521 --> 0:31:39.921
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's age does wary is but I think you

0:31:39.921 --> 0:31:41.681
<v Speaker 3>should be able to hold on for a little bit longer.

0:31:41.681 --> 0:31:44.521
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that fifteen year old injection of testosterone. No

0:31:44.561 --> 0:31:45.921
<v Speaker 3>doubt he's coming for you.

0:31:45.961 --> 0:31:48.881
<v Speaker 2>See is it? I mean again? At a distance, it's

0:31:48.921 --> 0:31:51.881
<v Speaker 2>just a text. It's difficult to give advice, but I

0:31:51.961 --> 0:31:55.001
<v Speaker 2>reckon that there's more chance at the fifteen year old son.

0:31:55.081 --> 0:31:57.761
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're energetic and he's putting everything into it,

0:31:57.801 --> 0:32:00.201
<v Speaker 2>and he's got his dad he wants to overtake. Is

0:32:00.201 --> 0:32:02.441
<v Speaker 2>there a chance that dad just needs to re examine

0:32:02.441 --> 0:32:05.521
<v Speaker 2>whether he's really working hard enough, you know, I mean

0:32:05.561 --> 0:32:07.481
<v Speaker 2>in terms of just pushing that weight up, you know,

0:32:07.841 --> 0:32:10.441
<v Speaker 2>dropping the sets, getting to exhaustion, you know, when I

0:32:10.481 --> 0:32:10.841
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

0:32:10.921 --> 0:32:12.921
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well we have we have to overload our body,

0:32:13.041 --> 0:32:15.121
<v Speaker 3>like we have to provide stimulus. But I think one

0:32:15.161 --> 0:32:17.001
<v Speaker 3>of the things you know that that'spring to moment I

0:32:17.161 --> 0:32:19.241
<v Speaker 3>just hear that is how fantastic that is is a

0:32:19.321 --> 0:32:23.201
<v Speaker 3>you know, a father and son training together and your

0:32:23.241 --> 0:32:26.641
<v Speaker 3>boy's probably getting a ton out of trying to catch you.

0:32:26.801 --> 0:32:29.041
<v Speaker 3>So what a what a great relationship with a good

0:32:29.041 --> 0:32:31.481
<v Speaker 3>thing to keep up and hold him at bay for

0:32:31.521 --> 0:32:32.321
<v Speaker 3>as long as you can.

0:32:32.521 --> 0:32:35.281
<v Speaker 2>It's funny that actually I'm the Jim. I go to there,

0:32:35.601 --> 0:32:37.841
<v Speaker 2>you see a young callow youth turn up, and I

0:32:37.841 --> 0:32:40.081
<v Speaker 2>saw some kid turn up. He looked pretty gangly, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I saw the weight he's stuck on. I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>I need up my game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, mid love crisis and again you have to be careful. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's particularly a male fault is going to

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<v Speaker 3>the gym and just thinking about how much weight is

0:32:55.201 --> 0:32:58.161
<v Speaker 3>on the bar, and it's something that yeah, it matters

0:32:58.441 --> 0:33:00.601
<v Speaker 3>over time that we're lifting more weight, but it really

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be the focus of weight training.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the other question is I've remind him myself of

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<v Speaker 2>this a couple of times. I'm like, well, hang on,

0:33:06.681 --> 0:33:08.641
<v Speaker 2>I'm up that weight and I got through it, and

0:33:08.641 --> 0:33:11.761
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, how did I really focus on technique? Because

0:33:11.801 --> 0:33:14.761
<v Speaker 2>if you see quite a lot where a trainer will say, well,

0:33:14.801 --> 0:33:17.041
<v Speaker 2>let's just drop that weight down and work on your technique,

0:33:17.121 --> 0:33:19.041
<v Speaker 2>and the persons like, god, this is this is weighing

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<v Speaker 2>a ton. Yeah, that's well.

0:33:20.241 --> 0:33:22.561
<v Speaker 3>I mean, your body has no idea what the weight

0:33:22.641 --> 0:33:24.761
<v Speaker 3>is on the bar. It just feels tension. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>lots of different ways to do that and make sure

0:33:27.641 --> 0:33:30.201
<v Speaker 3>that weight training stays safer for the long term when

0:33:30.241 --> 0:33:34.001
<v Speaker 3>we focus on great technique creating tension in our bodies,

0:33:34.081 --> 0:33:37.001
<v Speaker 3>and then that way we get a hard workout without

0:33:37.121 --> 0:33:39.521
<v Speaker 3>necessarily having to go to the absolute extremes.

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<v Speaker 2>With thirty five year old dad check out, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a chat with Alex and see if he can. He

0:33:45.201 --> 0:33:47.921
<v Speaker 2>could be your secret weapon. Your son will be like, geez, Dad,

0:33:47.961 --> 0:33:48.481
<v Speaker 2>what's happening?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing, I'm just caring as the usual. Okay, let's take

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<v Speaker 2>some more course, John.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello, yeah, goody, how's it going good?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks?

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<v Speaker 4>John.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm forty nine years old and I've always been by

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<v Speaker 6>Let's put it that way, shall we. Ever? As a kid,

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<v Speaker 6>even as a kid in high school, my nickname was

0:34:08.681 --> 0:34:13.041
<v Speaker 6>Fred's big white and full of food. It was basically,

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<v Speaker 6>I've always been that person who is a little bit

0:34:15.761 --> 0:34:19.721
<v Speaker 6>of overweight. And now I've hit for forty nine. Is

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<v Speaker 6>as I said. I do walking and hiking, that's my thing,

0:34:24.281 --> 0:34:28.361
<v Speaker 6>but it's not enough to keep the weight off. And

0:34:28.401 --> 0:34:31.561
<v Speaker 6>I'm still the size I've always been, which is B

0:34:31.681 --> 0:34:34.801
<v Speaker 6>and I like high. But now I'm starting to get

0:34:35.241 --> 0:34:40.161
<v Speaker 6>high blood pressure, and I suffer from anemia and I've

0:34:40.161 --> 0:34:42.841
<v Speaker 6>got low hemoglobin levels and so I don't have a

0:34:42.881 --> 0:34:45.721
<v Speaker 6>lot of energy. But I need to do more. But

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<v Speaker 6>the more has to be effective, and I just seem

0:34:48.881 --> 0:34:51.281
<v Speaker 6>to be always on the back foot. What should I try?

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<v Speaker 4>John?

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<v Speaker 3>Good on you for getting out there and exercising. The

0:34:55.961 --> 0:35:00.121
<v Speaker 3>biggest thing that we find with daily exercise, whether it's

0:35:00.481 --> 0:35:04.961
<v Speaker 3>cardiovascular training, walking, swimming, lifting weights is there's a tremendous

0:35:05.201 --> 0:35:09.041
<v Speaker 3>compensatory effect when it comes to our appetite, so we

0:35:09.081 --> 0:35:13.441
<v Speaker 3>will eat more when we exercise, and that is one

0:35:13.441 --> 0:35:16.561
<v Speaker 3>of the biggest issues. So and you almost need to

0:35:16.601 --> 0:35:20.521
<v Speaker 3>be smarter with your diet, with your nutrition when you

0:35:20.561 --> 0:35:23.441
<v Speaker 3>are trying to exercise for a change in your health

0:35:23.561 --> 0:35:27.121
<v Speaker 3>or for a change in your body weight. So usually

0:35:27.881 --> 0:35:31.081
<v Speaker 3>barking up the more exercise is what I need tree

0:35:32.401 --> 0:35:35.681
<v Speaker 3>likely is not the right approach. It's a look into

0:35:36.041 --> 0:35:38.401
<v Speaker 3>your nutritional habits, and the reason for.

0:35:38.321 --> 0:35:39.961
<v Speaker 6>That is more deficit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and usually the first and best way to do

0:35:44.681 --> 0:35:46.841
<v Speaker 3>that is not to actually start eating less. It's to

0:35:46.961 --> 0:35:49.601
<v Speaker 3>improve the quality of foods that you are eating. So

0:35:50.001 --> 0:35:53.921
<v Speaker 3>if you just focus on eating more fruit and vegetables,

0:35:54.121 --> 0:35:58.201
<v Speaker 3>more good lean proteins, more quality whole grains, what you'll

0:35:58.201 --> 0:36:00.121
<v Speaker 3>find is that you're starting to crowd out the good

0:36:00.121 --> 0:36:02.881
<v Speaker 3>with the bad. And you shouldn't actually have to starve yourself.

0:36:03.281 --> 0:36:06.441
<v Speaker 3>But especially if you've got things like a you know,

0:36:06.561 --> 0:36:09.721
<v Speaker 3>iron issues, doing more exercise, to be honest, is probably

0:36:09.841 --> 0:36:11.521
<v Speaker 3>just going to leave you feeling really exhausted.

0:36:12.281 --> 0:36:13.561
<v Speaker 4>So you know, that's true.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that is what I find. I've started trying to

0:36:16.321 --> 0:36:18.521
<v Speaker 6>do more, but it's just it's counter productive.

0:36:18.521 --> 0:36:20.881
<v Speaker 3>It it doesn't work, no, and it's you know, it's

0:36:20.961 --> 0:36:24.201
<v Speaker 3>just so easy to eat back the calories that you've

0:36:24.201 --> 0:36:27.881
<v Speaker 3>burnt off. So unfortunately, unless you're in your twenties. I

0:36:27.881 --> 0:36:29.961
<v Speaker 3>can remember as a personal training in my twenties thinking

0:36:30.001 --> 0:36:32.401
<v Speaker 3>that all my forty fifty and six year old clients

0:36:32.481 --> 0:36:34.361
<v Speaker 3>were not telling the truth that they couldn't lose weight.

0:36:34.841 --> 0:36:36.281
<v Speaker 3>And then all of a sudden I was one, and

0:36:36.321 --> 0:36:40.321
<v Speaker 3>you realize that, actually, the calorice equation is just very,

0:36:40.401 --> 0:36:43.761
<v Speaker 3>very difficult if it's just through exercise. So you can

0:36:43.801 --> 0:36:45.441
<v Speaker 3>do an hour of exercise and you can eat back

0:36:45.481 --> 0:36:48.401
<v Speaker 3>those calories in about ten minutes. So it's Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 3>I would really suggest, John, is you start to look

0:36:50.321 --> 0:36:53.321
<v Speaker 3>at just improving the quality of your diet, whether that's

0:36:53.321 --> 0:36:55.721
<v Speaker 3>you look at working with someone just to get some help,

0:36:56.441 --> 0:36:59.161
<v Speaker 3>but definitely don't starve yourself. Just start by looking at

0:36:59.201 --> 0:37:03.201
<v Speaker 3>improving what you're doing and measuring it some way, whether

0:37:03.241 --> 0:37:05.521
<v Speaker 3>it's a food diary, it's on the scales.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cheers, John, thanks for your Actually for me, I

0:37:07.921 --> 0:37:12.441
<v Speaker 2>can echo that because I I'm aware. I'm not sure

0:37:12.441 --> 0:37:14.161
<v Speaker 2>if I've put on weight or anything, but you do naturally,

0:37:14.201 --> 0:37:17.161
<v Speaker 2>we've put on a bit of muscle. But I think

0:37:17.161 --> 0:37:19.201
<v Speaker 2>it's I think my thing. I've got to be aware

0:37:19.201 --> 0:37:22.121
<v Speaker 2>with it. Its just sugar. For some reason, I think

0:37:22.161 --> 0:37:24.041
<v Speaker 2>if I get hungry, you know, I am drawn a

0:37:24.041 --> 0:37:26.321
<v Speaker 2>little bit to more the sugar retreats. And I'm not

0:37:26.361 --> 0:37:27.841
<v Speaker 2>sure if there's a reason for that, but.

0:37:28.041 --> 0:37:32.001
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well often, I mean in daily life, it's like

0:37:32.041 --> 0:37:34.121
<v Speaker 3>a stress modulator, you know what I mean, Like if

0:37:34.121 --> 0:37:36.721
<v Speaker 3>you're tired, or you're fatigued, or you're into high stress.

0:37:36.961 --> 0:37:40.601
<v Speaker 3>Treat foods are things that make us feel better. They

0:37:40.881 --> 0:37:43.081
<v Speaker 3>increase happy hormones. So what happens is we tend to

0:37:43.161 --> 0:37:46.161
<v Speaker 3>lean on those and they're just hyper palatable. It's easy

0:37:46.241 --> 0:37:50.001
<v Speaker 3>to overeat them, and there's calories that don't really help us.

0:37:50.161 --> 0:37:52.841
<v Speaker 2>And peanuts, by the way, But anyway, like I'll ask

0:37:52.881 --> 0:37:54.641
<v Speaker 2>you about that in our own time, which is coming

0:37:54.721 --> 0:37:56.001
<v Speaker 2>up now. We'll be back in just a ticke. It's

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<v Speaker 2>nine minutes to vide and news talks. He'd be yes,

0:37:57.841 --> 0:38:00.321
<v Speaker 2>news talk Sai'd be look only a couple of minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with Alex Flint. By the way, if you're curious

0:38:02.601 --> 0:38:05.881
<v Speaker 2>on tracking Alex down with what he does, you can

0:38:05.921 --> 0:38:09.721
<v Speaker 2>go to body talk dot co, dot nzet and he's

0:38:09.761 --> 0:38:11.561
<v Speaker 2>done some great work with a lot of people. And

0:38:11.601 --> 0:38:14.121
<v Speaker 2>I would say possibly in quitcluding me now, I'd say, Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>even though we've had a bit of a chat about

0:38:16.321 --> 0:38:17.801
<v Speaker 2>some of my snacking, we might have to work on

0:38:18.521 --> 0:38:20.881
<v Speaker 2>this text from Victoria. Hi, I'm a sixty one year

0:38:20.881 --> 0:38:24.481
<v Speaker 2>old woman, fairly fit through running, but core and strength

0:38:24.521 --> 0:38:29.561
<v Speaker 2>need more attention. I've heard women should be lifting heavy weights. Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>address this and can you please explain the app given

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not an Auckland chairs Victoria, And that's yeah, Sorry

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't switch the mark on there again, sorry, Alex.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's what happens when we age, is we lose

0:38:43.401 --> 0:38:46.921
<v Speaker 3>muscle mass. That just happens over time. I don't know

0:38:46.921 --> 0:38:49.721
<v Speaker 3>if you know out there you've seen there's a really

0:38:50.961 --> 0:38:54.801
<v Speaker 3>famous picture of a seventy year old triathletes thighs compared

0:38:54.801 --> 0:38:58.321
<v Speaker 3>to a seventy seven year old sedentary man and the

0:38:58.321 --> 0:39:00.561
<v Speaker 3>difference in the cross section when they've done an MRI

0:39:00.761 --> 0:39:03.761
<v Speaker 3>on them, and while they're relatively the same size, the

0:39:03.761 --> 0:39:05.961
<v Speaker 3>inside of those one is full of body fat and

0:39:05.961 --> 0:39:08.921
<v Speaker 3>the other one still full of muscle. And largely what

0:39:09.001 --> 0:39:11.361
<v Speaker 3>happens is just through inactivity, and that can happen at

0:39:11.361 --> 0:39:15.361
<v Speaker 3>any age, but especially as we get older, our muscle

0:39:15.801 --> 0:39:19.241
<v Speaker 3>muscle mass starts to dwindle. Now, interestingly, even if you

0:39:19.281 --> 0:39:22.561
<v Speaker 3>are running or you're doing cycling, there's still that effect

0:39:22.721 --> 0:39:25.961
<v Speaker 3>of phenomenon still happens, the atrophy of muscles as we

0:39:26.001 --> 0:39:30.721
<v Speaker 3>get older. So strength training for men and women as

0:39:30.721 --> 0:39:31.801
<v Speaker 3>we age is really important.

0:39:31.801 --> 0:39:32.001
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:39:32.041 --> 0:39:37.801
<v Speaker 3>For women it's particularly important through menopause and postmenopause because

0:39:37.801 --> 0:39:41.601
<v Speaker 3>of things like bone density and because on the other

0:39:41.681 --> 0:39:45.641
<v Speaker 3>side of menopause, this loss of muscle mass can create

0:39:45.681 --> 0:39:49.161
<v Speaker 3>a lot of health disorders down the track. So lifting

0:39:49.281 --> 0:39:53.441
<v Speaker 3>heavy is a relative term. So when we're talking lifting heavy,

0:39:53.601 --> 0:39:56.961
<v Speaker 3>if we think about pilates, that's high reps. What we

0:39:57.001 --> 0:40:02.481
<v Speaker 3>need is heavy weights fifteen ten or less repetitions and

0:40:02.561 --> 0:40:06.081
<v Speaker 3>over time where we're stressing our body through increasing those weights.

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<v Speaker 3>So heavy few right now will be different to what

0:40:08.321 --> 0:40:10.681
<v Speaker 3>heavy to you is in ten much time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what. I'm sorry, we've run out of

0:40:12.241 --> 0:40:14.801
<v Speaker 2>time there, so we haven't even got on to living longer,

0:40:14.841 --> 0:40:17.321
<v Speaker 2>have we Alex, well after that, but start getting fitter

0:40:17.561 --> 0:40:21.161
<v Speaker 2>and that will probably stick. Tick the first box. Hey Alex,

0:40:21.201 --> 0:40:23.121
<v Speaker 2>thanks so much. By the way, when I say body talk,

0:40:23.361 --> 0:40:26.761
<v Speaker 2>it's t O r q u E as opposed to

0:40:27.241 --> 0:40:29.441
<v Speaker 2>chitty chats. So thanks Alex, good to see.

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<v Speaker 3>You mate, Thank you very much.

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