1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: In the Brady aw UK correspondence with us. 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: Hallo, Inda, Heather greatly back, how are you right? 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you. Mit. Now, how much trouble 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: is Peter Mandelssohn. 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: A lot? So the police are now involved in this 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: and this is all courtesy of a long standing friendship 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: with mister Jeffrey Epstein. So Friday night, that big dump 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: of three million documents and files was released. It has 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: taken a few days for the dust to settle and 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: for journalists to pick through. What's interesting, and what's very 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: interesting is that back in June two thousand and nine, 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: Mandelssohn was Business Secretary in the Labor Party in Gordon 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: Brown's government, and there is an allegation now that he 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: was regularly routinely sending government emails from Bins to Epstein 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: in America, highly sensive marketensative information. The inference people are 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: drawing from it is that Epstein had a lot of 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: very wealthy clients that kind of information real time thinking 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: of the UK government in London, what they were planning, assets, 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: they were planning to sell off, everything that was going 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: on inside Gordon Brown's inner circle. That Mandelson was allegedly 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: taking all of this firing it off to Epstein, and 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Epstein was making millions off the back of it. Mandelssohn 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: basically is toast. Now his political career has ended in ruins. 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: He is Lord mandelssoh But Kirs Starmer now wants to 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: kick him out of the House of Lords as well. 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: Is it rich for Kis Stamer to suddenly want to 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: kick him out of the House of Lords when Stammer 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: actually had plenty of warning before he appointed him as 29 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: the ambassador that this guy was potentially trouble and he 30 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: just went to hit with it. 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: Anyway, I think Starmer wanted someone who could handle Trump's administration, 32 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: and Mandlsson has. He's a big political beast. You know, 33 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: he rebuilt the Labor Party. Tony Blair would not have 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: got into power had it not been for Peter Mandelson 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: reforming Labor and turning it into New Labor. So there 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: were three people involved that You've got Tony Blair who 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: basically got a decade in Downing Street out of it, 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: Gordon Brown who picked up the slack and got two 39 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: years in power, and Mandalson was the power behind the throne. 40 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: If you like so, I think Keres Starmer bowed to 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: Mandelssoh's charm and schmoozing abilities and the fact that he 42 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: knew Trump and had a relationship with him. So people 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: with questioned Starmer's judgment, but ultimately the person in the 44 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: wrong here really looks to be Mandlssoon. 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, very much. So now what about Fugie, because she 46 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: comes out of this looking terrible as well, doesn't she. 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: Well, I think Prince Andrew must be taking a breather 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: today looking at the front pages and thinking, wow, they're 49 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: not posting any more pictures of me on top of 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: young girls. So we have Sarah Ferguson. Now it appears 51 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: she was emailing Epstein as soon as he got out 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: of prison, and not only was she going for lunch, 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: she appears to have taken their daughters, Beatrice and Eugenie, 54 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: who were teenage girls at the time, for lunch with Epstein. 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: So there was a huge number of emails backwards and 56 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: forwards between Sarah Ferguson and Epstein. She refers to him 57 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: as you know. She at one point says marry me 58 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 2: in an email, and then there's another email which is 59 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: just so cringey. She writes to him and says that 60 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: her landlord is asking for twenty pounds in rent. Any 61 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: ideas or suggestions, basically just saying can you give me 62 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars please? You know, it's just cringey. She 63 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: seems to have been trying to use him as a 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: bank machine in atm and I think he was using her. 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: He absolutely went through her to get to Andrew and 66 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: the Royal family. 67 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: Oh very much looks like that. Now, what's the business 68 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: with the guest stations, the motorway guest stations. 69 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: Well, at long last the government are taking some action 70 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: on this, not far enough in my view. So the 71 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: situation we have here, you drive anywhere in Britain on 72 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: a motorway and you go into a service station petrol station, 73 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: it's a lead more than what it would be in 74 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: the supermarkets or your local village petrol station for example 75 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: where I live. So that mounts up if you're doing 76 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: a lot of driving. The government, instead of saying to 77 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: these service station, the big big names that you can't 78 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: be profit off the back of someone you know, perhaps 79 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: not that experience driving motorways and running out of fuel, 80 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: they are ripping people off. What the government they're doing 81 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: now is they're going to make it the law so 82 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: that the big service station providers on the motorways will 83 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: have to publish in advance on a website the cost 84 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: per liter of their diesel and unleaded and everything else. 85 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: But I don't think that they've gone far enough, honestly, Heather. 86 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: I think they need to make it so that you 87 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: know what a supermarket is charging, and a supermarkets clearly 88 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: making profit as well, but they're charging that's what the 89 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: service station should be allowed. 90 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting, Hey, they're always good to talk to. Talk 91 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: to you in a couple of days into Brady are 92 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: UK correspondent. 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: For more from Hither dupless elan Drive. 94 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks it'd be from four PUS weekdays, 95 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.