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Speaker 2: Iconic Radio Personalities, Sporting Legends, and other well known kiwis

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Speaker 2: will unite tomorrow from six am for a twelve hour

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Speaker 2: live broadcast from the bowels of Eden Park for Radio

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Speaker 2: Hurarkies Third Day and lou event to raise awareness of

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Speaker 2: bow cancer. The charity Bellcancer New Zealand does fantastic work.

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Speaker 2: It obviously affects a lot of kiwi's and right now

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Speaker 2: we have the CEO of Bell Canton, New Zealand, Peter Huskinson,

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Speaker 2: in studio.

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Speaker 3: Peter getaw So you're you're you're the new new boss.

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Speaker 4: You've been there for about seven months? Is that right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's correct.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And how's it going.

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Speaker 5: It's going really well. Actually, I've been really struck by

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Speaker 5: just the amazing, I guess resilience of people walking through

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Speaker 5: this journey that we're able to stand beside, but also

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Speaker 5: the passion of people who want to see batter for

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Speaker 5: New Zealand and want to be part of the movement

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Speaker 5: to make things happen and change things.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, so how you guys funded?

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Speaker 5: Ah, Look, we don't take any central government funding. That's

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Speaker 5: so that means we're not super flush, but it also

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Speaker 5: means that we can be completely independent and we see

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Speaker 5: things that aren't as they should be, we can call

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Speaker 5: that out and advocate for the right thing. So we

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Speaker 5: get donations. We have some wonderful sponsors who give us

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Speaker 5: money and some companies who we work with, but also

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Speaker 5: I would say the vast majority is just regular key

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Speaker 5: is just giving us slipping as a few quid during

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Speaker 5: movie of in February, or maybe giving us a little

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Speaker 5: bit every month out of their paycheck, and that's really

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Speaker 5: the lifeblood of the charity.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you want to donate some money now, you

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Speaker 3: can text Lo Lou to three seven seven nine.

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Speaker 4: That's Lou to.

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Speaker 3: Three three seven nine and there'll be a three back

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Speaker 3: donation right there. How bad is the bell cancer problem

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: Look, it's a big deal for three reasons. So firstly,

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Speaker 5: it's common. You know, we've got among the highest bow

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Speaker 5: cancer rates in the world. About three hundred keys this

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Speaker 5: month will be told you have bow cancer. That's people. Secondly,

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Speaker 5: it's deadly, so after lung cancer, it's a top cans

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Speaker 5: of killer in New Zealand. So there will be one

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Speaker 5: hundred families each month will lose a loved one and

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Speaker 5: that's that's a tragedy. But the good news is it's treatable.

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Speaker 5: So ninety people survived by cancer if they're called at

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Speaker 5: stage one, that means that forty five lives every month

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Speaker 5: could be being saved. So that forty five is a

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Speaker 5: key number that really motivates.

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Speaker 2: It so important. Now, just while while we're having a

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Speaker 2: chip during the ear break, you mentioned a survey that

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Speaker 2: you've undertaken. The full results are yet to come out,

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Speaker 2: but was a fascinating state. You mentioned about how few

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Speaker 2: Keywis could name a single symptom of bell cancer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. We've partnered with tra big market research

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Speaker 5: agency who do a lot of national work and what

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Speaker 5: they did is they sampled right across New Zealand, represent

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Speaker 5: it by age and this tea location, urban rural. What

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Speaker 5: they found was when asked can you name a symptom

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Speaker 5: of bow cancer, one in four people couldn't name a

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Speaker 5: single one. And as there are probably five key ones

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so there's I'll just have a go here.

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Speaker 3: There's bleeding from your backside, a change in your belle movements,

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Speaker 3: Now now now I'm grasping. Now, now I'm stiss. Is

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Speaker 3: it like some something like tiredness.

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Speaker 5: The the other one is unexplained weight.

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Speaker 3: Loss, unexplained waste lot weight loss? Right, okay, So what's

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Speaker 3: the nicest way to say, bleeding from your backside from.

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Speaker 4: And who gets hit by a bell cancer in New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: So there's a common myth that this is just a

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Speaker 5: It's getting more common. That's right. We're having some success

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Speaker 2: And we are joined in studio buying the CEO of

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Speaker 2: Bell Cancer New Zealand, Peter Haskinson. Peter, thank you very

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Speaker 2: much again for your time. It is of course Bell

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Speaker 2: Cancer Awareness Months as well, and just a reminder if

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Speaker 2: Fantastic charity. And boy do we need more awareness around belcam.

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Speaker 3: We've got full lines, but keep trying on eight hundred

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Speaker 3: thought was interesting that got texted in early, got texted

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Speaker 3: that someone texted in earlier. My son keeps getting readiness

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Speaker 3: I am worried. Is it possible to bypass doctor and

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Speaker 3: get a private colonoscopy?

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Speaker 5: Hi, yes, it is. It is possible to do that

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Speaker 5: you can get a private coloscopy. You can also get

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Speaker 4: Ye right, great.

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Speaker 2: Oh e one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number

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Speaker 4: Ray Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Hi guys. I was wanting just to share my experience

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Speaker 6: The reason I went and talked to a doctor is

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Speaker 6: a internal hemorrhoid not related to bell cancer. But when

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Speaker 6: In The wait time was about a month. It was

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Speaker 6: Then when I went to have the kolonoscopy, they sedate

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Speaker 6: this process they clipped out three or four polyups. Now,

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Speaker 6: there's been a change in the pattern of your normal pulling.

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Speaker 6: Go and talk to a doctor. And I couldn't more

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Speaker 6: highly recommend it. And as I said, if you're worried

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Speaker 2: What an embassed a rays fantastic, nothing to be, nothing

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Speaker 2: Just just on what Ray was saying. I mean, is

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Speaker 5: probably just something else. So maybe I'm stressed. So what

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Speaker 5: And that's that's that's common too, so so certainly that

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Speaker 5: I got some great advice from the people at Parkinson

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Speaker 5: ucland Victoria Support Nurse. So I was paying. I was

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Speaker 5: I ended up I've ended up working for it. But

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Speaker 5: it is it is. It's definitely for something to get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic the sticks that I know the camera is small,

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Speaker 4: How big? Is that It's a misunderstanding.

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Speaker 2: Not quite that situation, thankfully for a lot of people. Theresa,

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Speaker 2: how are you, I'm good, Thank you. Peter is standing

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Speaker 2: by for your question.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, question here if by text his Hi Peter, fantastic

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Speaker 5: Great? Great question. Look, there are there are five big

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Speaker 3: Afternoon, I had a colonoscopy a year. There's quite a

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Speaker 3: I don't know whether I'm dumb or not, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: The editor you'd agree with that Peter, Well, I took

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic, Peter, Really great to have you on. It's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, brilliant.

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Speaker 2: a twelve hour live broadcast Peter, you'll be hitting down

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Speaker 5: Love it yep.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic Peter, Nice to see you. We'll catch up again soon.

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Speaker 5: Wonderful. Thanks for having me.

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