1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,347 Speaker 1: from News. 3 00:00:11,227 --> 00:00:15,267 Speaker 2: Talk zed b Well's Auckland AS's batter. Bevan Jacobs meantime 4 00:00:15,307 --> 00:00:17,707 Speaker 2: in line to make his Black Caps debut. He's been 5 00:00:17,747 --> 00:00:20,427 Speaker 2: included in the fifteen strong squad for next month's T 6 00:00:20,427 --> 00:00:23,987 Speaker 2: twenty try series with South Africa and hosts Zimbabwe. Fitting 7 00:00:24,027 --> 00:00:26,867 Speaker 2: in the air all the way for six Jacobs. We 8 00:00:26,947 --> 00:00:28,947 Speaker 2: know what he can do. It's an outstanding piece of 9 00:00:28,987 --> 00:00:31,227 Speaker 2: timing and it brings up his fifty as well from 10 00:00:31,427 --> 00:00:33,827 Speaker 2: just thirty three balls. He was crazy. He's got such 11 00:00:33,827 --> 00:00:36,147 Speaker 2: a long stripe tossed up and he said, I'll have 12 00:00:36,187 --> 00:00:38,787 Speaker 2: a piece of that straight over, long off. Great way 13 00:00:38,787 --> 00:00:41,547 Speaker 2: to bring up fifty. Bevan Jacobs the only uncapped player 14 00:00:41,667 --> 00:00:44,147 Speaker 2: in the touring party. He is with us now. Congrats 15 00:00:44,187 --> 00:00:46,907 Speaker 2: on your selection, Bevin. How excited are you to be 16 00:00:47,067 --> 00:00:49,347 Speaker 2: named again in a New Zealand squad, having of course 17 00:00:49,387 --> 00:00:51,707 Speaker 2: been named in that one to face Sri Lanka back 18 00:00:51,747 --> 00:00:53,827 Speaker 2: in December but not getting onto the field. 19 00:00:54,507 --> 00:00:57,787 Speaker 3: Thanks, Jasinya. I'm very excited, you know, I really can't 20 00:00:57,787 --> 00:01:00,427 Speaker 3: wait to travel with the groups, get back with them, 21 00:01:00,467 --> 00:01:03,987 Speaker 3: you know, since being amongst that tour with Sri Lanka 22 00:01:03,987 --> 00:01:06,347 Speaker 3: over here. I mean, it was a great bunch of lads, 23 00:01:06,387 --> 00:01:08,187 Speaker 3: and yeah, I'm just looking forward to being with the 24 00:01:08,227 --> 00:01:08,707 Speaker 3: group again. 25 00:01:08,947 --> 00:01:11,907 Speaker 2: Even though you didn't take the field in those three matches, 26 00:01:12,067 --> 00:01:16,307 Speaker 2: was there still value for you in being in the environment. Yeah. 27 00:01:16,347 --> 00:01:18,387 Speaker 3: Absolutely. You know, you've got world class players in that 28 00:01:18,427 --> 00:01:20,467 Speaker 3: group and a lot of guys that are easy to 29 00:01:20,507 --> 00:01:22,747 Speaker 3: have conversations with, you know, very approachable. They made the 30 00:01:22,907 --> 00:01:25,787 Speaker 3: environment seem really open and you know, it was easy 31 00:01:25,787 --> 00:01:27,387 Speaker 3: to talk to them and you pack their brains and 32 00:01:27,907 --> 00:01:29,787 Speaker 3: learn from them because there's a wealth of knowledge there 33 00:01:29,787 --> 00:01:31,667 Speaker 3: that I'd like to try and tap into and I 34 00:01:31,707 --> 00:01:34,267 Speaker 3: have that opportunity, and you know that that was really 35 00:01:34,307 --> 00:01:36,667 Speaker 3: something that they looked after. Well for me when I 36 00:01:36,707 --> 00:01:37,027 Speaker 3: was with them. 37 00:01:37,227 --> 00:01:38,867 Speaker 2: Was it challenging not playing though? I mean I think 38 00:01:38,867 --> 00:01:40,147 Speaker 2: everybody wants to play, don't they. 39 00:01:40,947 --> 00:01:42,907 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, you know, it's obviously it's something you 40 00:01:42,947 --> 00:01:45,067 Speaker 3: want to do. Like you, as I've said many times, 41 00:01:45,107 --> 00:01:47,187 Speaker 3: I think you know, representing New Zealands is the dream 42 00:01:47,227 --> 00:01:49,627 Speaker 3: of mine. Playing for the Black Cats, so obviously, like 43 00:01:50,147 --> 00:01:51,867 Speaker 3: one part of you is guarded that you don't play, 44 00:01:51,867 --> 00:01:53,867 Speaker 3: but the other part, you know, is just it's really 45 00:01:53,867 --> 00:01:56,187 Speaker 3: grateful for the experience of being able to be amongst 46 00:01:56,187 --> 00:01:57,947 Speaker 3: the group and and you know, chat to them and 47 00:01:58,027 --> 00:02:00,147 Speaker 3: learn something new about your game as well. So there's 48 00:02:00,147 --> 00:02:01,547 Speaker 3: always there's always two sides of the coin. 49 00:02:01,707 --> 00:02:03,627 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like your time will be coming in 50 00:02:03,667 --> 00:02:06,107 Speaker 2: the next month or so. Just before we get onto that, 51 00:02:06,507 --> 00:02:09,067 Speaker 2: tell us about your experience in the i p L 52 00:02:09,667 --> 00:02:10,707 Speaker 2: in recent weeks. 53 00:02:11,107 --> 00:02:13,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, IPL was was amazing. I mean the amount of 54 00:02:15,267 --> 00:02:17,907 Speaker 3: experience and world class players in that group, you know, 55 00:02:18,027 --> 00:02:20,827 Speaker 3: second to none. So that was really special for me, 56 00:02:20,867 --> 00:02:24,467 Speaker 3: being able to challenge myself, especially in those overseas conditions. 57 00:02:24,467 --> 00:02:26,227 Speaker 3: Being in India for the first time, it was all 58 00:02:26,707 --> 00:02:28,547 Speaker 3: it was all new to me. So yeah, being able 59 00:02:28,587 --> 00:02:31,387 Speaker 3: to be put under the pump and be challenged world 60 00:02:31,427 --> 00:02:34,947 Speaker 3: class bowlers on those sorts of conditions was really beneficial 61 00:02:34,947 --> 00:02:36,587 Speaker 3: for me in my game. And then just having those 62 00:02:36,707 --> 00:02:38,907 Speaker 3: those players around me who I could you know, talk 63 00:02:38,947 --> 00:02:41,347 Speaker 3: to and have conversations with and learn something about them 64 00:02:41,387 --> 00:02:42,307 Speaker 3: to bring into my own game. 65 00:02:42,507 --> 00:02:43,907 Speaker 2: Wow, So that was your first time over there, bit 66 00:02:43,947 --> 00:02:45,467 Speaker 2: of an assault on the scene, says, your first time 67 00:02:45,467 --> 00:02:47,107 Speaker 2: in India area in the in the i p L. 68 00:02:48,027 --> 00:02:49,667 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a bit of a bit of a 69 00:02:49,747 --> 00:02:51,827 Speaker 3: change of scenery for me from usual. So it was 70 00:02:51,827 --> 00:02:55,067 Speaker 3: definitely you know, you always hear the stories and everything 71 00:02:55,067 --> 00:02:57,467 Speaker 3: about everyone's experiences and the IPL, but to actually be 72 00:02:57,507 --> 00:03:00,867 Speaker 3: the you know, you experience it yourself is something pretty 73 00:03:00,907 --> 00:03:03,747 Speaker 3: special and quite different obviously, So yeah, it was. It 74 00:03:03,787 --> 00:03:05,067 Speaker 3: was pretty awesome to be part of it. 75 00:03:05,187 --> 00:03:07,067 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the type of crack that you are. 76 00:03:07,427 --> 00:03:10,147 Speaker 2: You've filled a couple of different roles during your time 77 00:03:10,587 --> 00:03:12,907 Speaker 2: at the elite level in T twenty, I remember you 78 00:03:13,027 --> 00:03:14,867 Speaker 2: were sort of a finisher when you were with Canterbury. 79 00:03:14,907 --> 00:03:17,667 Speaker 2: You've moved further up the order with Auckland. Where do 80 00:03:17,747 --> 00:03:20,987 Speaker 2: you prefer to bat in T twenty cricket? Yeah? 81 00:03:21,067 --> 00:03:23,587 Speaker 3: Look, for me, I think at the moment, I'm just 82 00:03:23,587 --> 00:03:26,427 Speaker 3: trying to do my job for what's best for the team. 83 00:03:26,467 --> 00:03:28,347 Speaker 3: And you know, I f with Auckland that I was 84 00:03:28,387 --> 00:03:30,627 Speaker 3: fortunate enough to move up the order and have a 85 00:03:30,667 --> 00:03:32,347 Speaker 3: little bit more time in the middle for me to bat, 86 00:03:32,467 --> 00:03:35,147 Speaker 3: and that's where the best amongst the group, and I'm 87 00:03:35,147 --> 00:03:36,707 Speaker 3: pretty happy to bat there. You know, I think middle 88 00:03:36,787 --> 00:03:41,787 Speaker 3: order for my current progression, I guess, and for where 89 00:03:41,787 --> 00:03:43,947 Speaker 3: I sit right now with my career, I'm I'm pretty 90 00:03:43,987 --> 00:03:45,707 Speaker 3: happy there. And you know, to try and have that 91 00:03:45,747 --> 00:03:48,667 Speaker 3: responsibility on me to finish the endings. It's obviously it 92 00:03:48,707 --> 00:03:51,107 Speaker 3: can be a tough role, but it's something that I've 93 00:03:51,107 --> 00:03:53,147 Speaker 3: had a little bit of success with in the short 94 00:03:53,187 --> 00:03:54,707 Speaker 3: time and hopefully I can continue that. 95 00:03:54,747 --> 00:03:57,307 Speaker 2: On what I know. Match situations are different. But what 96 00:03:57,427 --> 00:04:00,987 Speaker 2: is your general approach to batting in T twenty cricket? 97 00:04:01,987 --> 00:04:04,347 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, for me, I think it comes back 98 00:04:04,347 --> 00:04:07,147 Speaker 3: to kind of trusting my sk and making sure that 99 00:04:07,187 --> 00:04:09,467 Speaker 3: when I'm out there, I'm pretty focused on I'm present 100 00:04:09,467 --> 00:04:10,587 Speaker 3: and I'm just reacting. 101 00:04:10,587 --> 00:04:10,747 Speaker 2: You know. 102 00:04:10,747 --> 00:04:12,387 Speaker 3: I feel like when you play your best cricket, you're 103 00:04:12,427 --> 00:04:14,147 Speaker 3: kind of in that zone and you're acting. Obviously you've 104 00:04:14,147 --> 00:04:16,067 Speaker 3: got a game plan out there, you're reading the situation. 105 00:04:16,707 --> 00:04:19,627 Speaker 3: But I guess, just me personally, I'm always trying to 106 00:04:19,627 --> 00:04:23,027 Speaker 3: play a positive brand of cricket, and positive can look 107 00:04:23,267 --> 00:04:26,187 Speaker 3: in different ways on different conditions, and sometimes it means boundaries. 108 00:04:26,187 --> 00:04:29,467 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just since at the crease or being busy, 109 00:04:29,587 --> 00:04:31,707 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. But I think the most important 110 00:04:31,707 --> 00:04:33,067 Speaker 3: thing about me and my role is to make sure 111 00:04:33,187 --> 00:04:36,067 Speaker 3: I'm just reading the game properly and knowing what's best 112 00:04:36,067 --> 00:04:37,827 Speaker 3: for the team in that current situation. 113 00:04:38,107 --> 00:04:40,987 Speaker 2: You're well known as a power hitter. Where do you 114 00:04:41,107 --> 00:04:44,147 Speaker 2: generate the power from I. 115 00:04:44,107 --> 00:04:48,947 Speaker 3: Mean power heading? It does come from a lot of training. Obviously, 116 00:04:48,987 --> 00:04:52,307 Speaker 3: there's that that's massive and probably the biggest aspect on it. 117 00:04:52,347 --> 00:04:54,347 Speaker 3: I like to work on it specifically and have a 118 00:04:54,387 --> 00:04:57,707 Speaker 3: separate part of my training sectioned off for tile hitting, 119 00:04:57,707 --> 00:05:01,067 Speaker 3: where I focus on overheading and underheading and hand speed, 120 00:05:01,067 --> 00:05:03,027 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. I could delve a little bit 121 00:05:03,067 --> 00:05:05,187 Speaker 3: deeper into that at a later time, but there is 122 00:05:05,227 --> 00:05:07,707 Speaker 3: obviously that section, and then I guess I just try 123 00:05:08,067 --> 00:05:11,307 Speaker 3: to use, you know, some of the natural stuff that 124 00:05:11,347 --> 00:05:13,347 Speaker 3: I've got, like my heights and my levers to my 125 00:05:13,387 --> 00:05:15,387 Speaker 3: advantage as well to try and make sure I can 126 00:05:15,467 --> 00:05:17,307 Speaker 3: use that as an extra bit of power in my game. 127 00:05:17,627 --> 00:05:20,227 Speaker 2: When you're looking at developing your T twenty batting, are 128 00:05:20,267 --> 00:05:23,507 Speaker 2: you looking to find new scoring areas or is it 129 00:05:23,547 --> 00:05:26,587 Speaker 2: more about being more effective in the ones which are 130 00:05:26,747 --> 00:05:28,067 Speaker 2: already prolific for you? 131 00:05:28,787 --> 00:05:31,507 Speaker 3: Yeah, I reckon it's about finding the right balance between 132 00:05:31,507 --> 00:05:34,707 Speaker 3: the two, because obviously there's for me, there's I've got 133 00:05:34,707 --> 00:05:37,227 Speaker 3: my strengths and things that I like to gravitate towards too, 134 00:05:37,267 --> 00:05:39,907 Speaker 3: and that, like you say, are prolific for me, and 135 00:05:39,987 --> 00:05:42,027 Speaker 3: what people look at when they see me is they 136 00:05:42,067 --> 00:05:44,067 Speaker 3: see that. And then obviously there's a balance between me 137 00:05:44,147 --> 00:05:47,027 Speaker 3: trying to find cool how otherwise I can challenge myself 138 00:05:47,627 --> 00:05:49,547 Speaker 3: or off put the bowler and find ways to score 139 00:05:49,547 --> 00:05:52,347 Speaker 3: in different areas, and then that brings my strengths back 140 00:05:52,387 --> 00:05:54,067 Speaker 3: into the game when they have to change the field 141 00:05:54,107 --> 00:05:56,147 Speaker 3: and et cetera, et cetera. So I guess that's where 142 00:05:56,147 --> 00:05:58,587 Speaker 3: it also comes into reading the game situation where I 143 00:05:58,587 --> 00:06:01,587 Speaker 3: am in the middle, and then obviously, yeah, trying to balance, 144 00:06:01,867 --> 00:06:03,827 Speaker 3: you know, working on those work ons that making sure 145 00:06:03,867 --> 00:06:05,547 Speaker 3: I keep my strength throughout the season. 146 00:06:05,827 --> 00:06:08,187 Speaker 2: I guess it's it's easy to forget you're a you know, 147 00:06:08,187 --> 00:06:10,547 Speaker 2: you're a pretty decent red ball cricketer as well, or 148 00:06:10,627 --> 00:06:13,347 Speaker 2: already a century in three fifties for Aukland. You average 149 00:06:13,347 --> 00:06:15,987 Speaker 2: close to sixty in first class cricket all but a 150 00:06:15,987 --> 00:06:18,387 Speaker 2: small sample size. But do you consider yourself an all 151 00:06:18,427 --> 00:06:19,067 Speaker 2: format cricketer. 152 00:06:19,707 --> 00:06:22,667 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely a goal of mine. Like obviously, I'm 153 00:06:23,107 --> 00:06:26,707 Speaker 3: I'm really grateful and fortunate to have something identified in 154 00:06:26,747 --> 00:06:29,187 Speaker 3: my game with the powerheading and being a finisher, which 155 00:06:29,227 --> 00:06:32,147 Speaker 3: can which has obviously got me this call up, which 156 00:06:32,147 --> 00:06:34,747 Speaker 3: I'm incredibly grateful for, but obviously for me as a 157 00:06:34,747 --> 00:06:37,467 Speaker 3: player and in the long run, my goal would be 158 00:06:37,507 --> 00:06:39,587 Speaker 3: to play three formats in New Zealand. Like that's that's 159 00:06:39,587 --> 00:06:43,387 Speaker 3: the dream of mine. And be it some T twenty 160 00:06:43,467 --> 00:06:46,467 Speaker 3: franchise opportunities such as Mumbai has come my way. It's efic, 161 00:06:46,467 --> 00:06:50,427 Speaker 3: it's awesome. I can take that as it comes and 162 00:06:50,467 --> 00:06:53,227 Speaker 3: then but yeah, long run for me, it's it's three 163 00:06:53,227 --> 00:06:56,067 Speaker 3: formats in New Zealand and playing test cricket and of. 164 00:06:56,027 --> 00:06:57,747 Speaker 2: Course there's a T twenty World Cup not too far 165 00:06:57,787 --> 00:07:00,787 Speaker 2: away early part of twenty twenty six. Is that something 166 00:07:00,827 --> 00:07:02,627 Speaker 2: that you've you've got a bit of an eye on. 167 00:07:03,347 --> 00:07:05,787 Speaker 3: It's definitely a goal. I mean, everyone everyone wants to 168 00:07:05,787 --> 00:07:07,787 Speaker 3: player will cut, don't they that? Again? That will be 169 00:07:07,787 --> 00:07:10,467 Speaker 3: something pretty special and take playing for the Black Cats 170 00:07:10,467 --> 00:07:13,107 Speaker 3: to a whole new level, you know. So it's definitely 171 00:07:13,667 --> 00:07:15,987 Speaker 3: it's definitely a goal that I set for myself. And 172 00:07:16,027 --> 00:07:17,907 Speaker 3: I guess all I can do is control what I 173 00:07:17,947 --> 00:07:20,427 Speaker 3: can and you know, keep working hard and see if 174 00:07:20,907 --> 00:07:21,787 Speaker 3: it comes into fruition. 175 00:07:21,947 --> 00:07:24,027 Speaker 2: You were born in South Africa, of course you've just 176 00:07:24,067 --> 00:07:26,187 Speaker 2: about lost the accent, there's just a little ends of 177 00:07:26,187 --> 00:07:29,147 Speaker 2: it still there. How special would it be, though, to 178 00:07:29,227 --> 00:07:31,587 Speaker 2: play against the nation of your birth a couple of 179 00:07:31,627 --> 00:07:33,387 Speaker 2: the games in this trice herees coming up next months, 180 00:07:33,467 --> 00:07:36,467 Speaker 2: or against South Africa? How special would that be for you? Yeah? 181 00:07:36,507 --> 00:07:39,307 Speaker 3: I think I think that would be pretty cool. I mean, 182 00:07:39,307 --> 00:07:41,467 Speaker 3: obviously I see myself very much as a Kiwi, but 183 00:07:41,667 --> 00:07:44,467 Speaker 3: I've still got family over there and family in New 184 00:07:44,547 --> 00:07:47,427 Speaker 3: Zealand who's you know, still speak up at home, So 185 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:49,107 Speaker 3: I guess it would be pretty special for them and 186 00:07:49,627 --> 00:07:53,147 Speaker 3: for me in some ways obviously, play against them in 187 00:07:53,187 --> 00:07:54,987 Speaker 3: a debut that Yeah, I think that would be. That 188 00:07:54,987 --> 00:07:55,787 Speaker 3: would be pretty cool. 189 00:07:56,467 --> 00:07:58,947 Speaker 2: Congratulations on your inclusion, Bevin. Been great to get the 190 00:07:59,027 --> 00:08:01,387 Speaker 2: chance to chat. All the best made and let's hope 191 00:08:01,427 --> 00:08:03,107 Speaker 2: that you get that debut and it's the first of 192 00:08:03,187 --> 00:08:03,627 Speaker 2: many made. 193 00:08:04,107 --> 00:08:05,827 Speaker 3: Thanks Jason, appreciate your time. Have a good one. 194 00:08:05,827 --> 00:08:07,307 Speaker 2: You have a good one, and thanks indeed. 195 00:08:07,787 --> 00:08:10,947 Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, Listen live 196 00:08:11,067 --> 00:08:14,347 Speaker 1: to News Talk st B weekends from midday, or follow 197 00:08:14,387 --> 00:08:15,987 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.