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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news togs he.

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Speaker 2: Complaining sanctions on benefits arrive. We've got a new rugby

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Speaker 2: competition that left me asking why do we need yet

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Speaker 2: more rugby? Nicola Willis is in for the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 2: The lads in the sport in the commentary boats are

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold, Steve Price. They ad flare and polish from

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Speaker 2: off shore Parsky. Welcome to the week. Seven past six

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Speaker 2: is the ground jinxt It's got to be the only

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Speaker 2: explanation Saturday. Auckland FC unable to lose all season, lose

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Speaker 2: when it counts. What sort of reflection do we have

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Speaker 2: of their inaugural escapades if they hadn't been so dominant

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Speaker 2: for the whole year. I think if they'd been sort

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Speaker 2: of it, they'd scraped home for the plate, it might

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Speaker 2: have been different, but they didn't. They won by a mile.

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Speaker 2: Second trick was to finish it off in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Of course, as it turns out they didn't even make

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Speaker 2: the final. I'm not sure complaining about the referee is

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Speaker 2: the way you conduct yourself. I mean, yes, the referee

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Speaker 2: and left a bit to be desired, and yes the

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Speaker 2: complaint was in fact accurate, but with dignity. And besides,

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Speaker 2: it was only one goal in the long conversation of

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Speaker 2: what might have been is pointless, so it's a disappointment.

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Speaker 2: Here's the real question. Was Melbourne aside for the occasion

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Speaker 2: when it counts, when it's do or die, they turned

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Speaker 2: up Auckland to learn that particular skill, and then last

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Speaker 2: night on the same ground, in wet conditions that I

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Speaker 2: was pretty sure wasn't forecast, we get the Mighty Warriors

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Speaker 2: with the chance to vanquish what was a shocking start

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Speaker 2: of the season. Oh how long ago, it seems, based

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Speaker 2: on nothing, we wandered out into Las Vegas and we

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Speaker 2: got humiliated. What a worldwigh that all appears. Until last night,

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Speaker 2: of course, when we were reminded, as if we needed reminding,

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Speaker 2: that that part of a winning season is about learning

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Speaker 2: and proving. And yet we didn't. They beat us again,

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Speaker 2: not as badly, but when the opportunity presented itself, when

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Speaker 2: the Bulldogs got beaten as they did last week, when

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Speaker 2: the gap was there for two points to put us

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Speaker 2: on top of the table. We couldn't wouldn't take it.

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Speaker 2: Shall we blame those missing for origin? No, I don't

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Speaker 2: think so. That's like complaining about the refereeing up soide.

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Speaker 2: We are still there. Of course, the Raiders go up,

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Speaker 2: but they played an extra game. They never forget that.

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Speaker 2: No real harm has actually been done. But we just

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Speaker 2: didn't seize the day. And that is what top level

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Speaker 2: success is all about. Owning it when you can, grabbing

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Speaker 2: it when you have to, being merciless and consistently merciless

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Speaker 2: when the opportunity arises. Two chances to missus, but at

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Speaker 2: least for one side, this is still very much potentially

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Speaker 2: our years.

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Speaker 1: Wow news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: But teake your Staff's being discussed in Britain as we speak,

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Speaker 2: the suggestions the governor are about to lift the cap

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Speaker 2: on two child benefits.

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Speaker 3: It's not a silver bullet. It's not going to alleviate

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Speaker 3: the levels of child poverty. There is a number of factors,

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Speaker 3: people's wages not increasing, the employment being insecure, their cost

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Speaker 3: of living crisis that we've faced.

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Speaker 2: The PM has allegedly told to measure read to go

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Speaker 2: find the seven billion dollars it would cost. The Tories

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Speaker 2: not into it.

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Speaker 4: Nigel Charrage and care Starmer seeing things to please people.

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Speaker 5: They're not doing what is right.

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Speaker 4: I am saying what is the right thing to do.

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Speaker 6: It may not be popular, but is absolutely the right

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Speaker 6: thing to do.

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Speaker 2: Are the labor risk moves. They've renationalized a chunk of

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Speaker 2: the railway service.

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Speaker 3: We're going to require really high standards of those regional

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Speaker 3: operators around punctuality, reducing the level of cancelations, improving the

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Speaker 3: passenger experience.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the first Southwestern service, the five thirty six from

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Speaker 2: Working to Waterloo, was a replacement bus to the war.

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Speaker 2: Where Russia doesn't seem that gripped by the idea of

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Speaker 2: a ceasefire or piece talks. Zelensky not happy.

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Speaker 4: This cannot be ignored. Silence of America, silence of others

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Speaker 4: around the world only encourages putin. The world knows all

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Speaker 4: the weaknesses of the Russian economy. The war can be stopped,

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Speaker 4: but only through the necessary force of pressure on Russia.

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Speaker 2: Meantimes outside couple of things fresh from US meme dinner,

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Speaker 2: which I'll get to later. The Trumpsters at West Point I.

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Speaker 7: Was investigated more than the great Late Alphonse Capon. Alphonse

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Speaker 7: Capon was a it was a very hardened criminal.

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Speaker 8: I went through.

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Speaker 7: More investigations than Alphonse Capone.

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Speaker 6: And now I'm talking to you as president.

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Speaker 2: And the marking five years since George Floyd's death.

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Speaker 3: We are not decarred.

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Speaker 9: We are recommitted.

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Speaker 3: So do whatever you're gonna do with the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 9: We will not.

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Speaker 6: Turn back justice for John Floyd.

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Speaker 10: Say his name.

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Speaker 2: Finally, As the European summer unfolds, are warning from the

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Speaker 2: authorities in Bruges, don't nick the cobblestones. About seventy cobblestones

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Speaker 2: disappear each month, even more during the peak season. Costs

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Speaker 2: about a couple of hundred euros per square meter to

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Speaker 2: replace them. Politicians have said it causes tripping hazards, it's

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Speaker 2: a safety issue the local stage. It's just by the annoying.

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Speaker 2: As news of the world in ninety are Britain's economy.

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Speaker 2: I have got some very good news from Britain, unexpected

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Speaker 2: to momentum and that the economy retail sales up one

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Speaker 2: point two percent in April, and the consumer confidence is

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Speaker 2: on the rise as well, and sterling has lifted against

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Speaker 2: the US dollar. So I think they'll take that because

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Speaker 2: there's a poll out this morning which is not good

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Speaker 2: news for the PM. But more late at twelve past six.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio call

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Speaker 1: it by News Talk Zippy.

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Speaker 2: We got the RB later on this week for US,

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Speaker 2: but Japan their core inflation they thought three point four

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Speaker 2: came in at three point five. So that whole creeping, creeping,

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Speaker 2: creeping discussion continues around the will fifteen past six Jmi

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Speaker 2: Well for Andrew Keller. Help welcome back. It's good to

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Speaker 2: be back, Mike always retail spending. Will talk about shortly,

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Speaker 2: but tied in with that as jobs. Do I see

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Speaker 2: some life in the jobs? Mike? Can I be slightly

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Speaker 2: optimistic or not?

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Speaker 11: Well, you're an optimistic guy, Mike, So I think there's

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Speaker 11: a there's a you know, there's ways of looking at this.

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Speaker 11: The more conservative approach is stabilization. But yeah, now that

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Speaker 11: the excitement of the budgets and the rearview miss rearview mirror,

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Speaker 11: we can sort of continue the postgame analysis that of

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Speaker 11: course of the week. But there was data released on

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Speaker 11: Friday which gives a signals about the sort of state

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Speaker 11: of the nation. One of them was this Benz Seek

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Speaker 11: Employment Report. Now, now, just in talking about that budget, Mike,

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Speaker 11: within within in addition to the budget itself, you've got treasuries, budgets,

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Speaker 11: economic and fiscal update. There's one hundred and sixty one

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Speaker 11: pages of joy in there, and lots of forecasts. So

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Speaker 11: we could spend the next ten to fifteen minutes talking

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Speaker 11: about this. But the economic croverage is now forecast to

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Speaker 11: be slower than the half year update, and in the forecast,

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Speaker 11: unemployment is slated to peak at five point four percent

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Speaker 11: in the June quarter, then itses gradually over ensuing years

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Speaker 11: to four point three percent.

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Speaker 8: So we're right in the Nader. We're right in the

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Speaker 8: low point of employment right now, Mike.

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Speaker 11: According to that, So the BNZ Seek report it has

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Speaker 11: the title Signs of Stabilization. So job has increased one

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Speaker 11: point one percent in April. That is the second consecutive

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Speaker 11: month that they have increased. I think a conservative core, Mike,

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Speaker 11: it would be too.

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Speaker 8: Early to call the bounce.

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Speaker 11: But what you can say is the employment market doesn't

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Speaker 11: seem to be getting.

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Speaker 8: Worse where so we are.

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Speaker 11: Though, look if I look at the start, they might

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Speaker 11: coming off a very low base. So job ads are

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Speaker 11: still nine point six percent below levels from a year ago,

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Speaker 11: and if you look back to twenty twenty two, we

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Speaker 11: are still forty eight percent below the number of job

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Speaker 11: ads there. And there's also a shift you can see

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Speaker 11: within the Darta mark. There's a shift from full time

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Speaker 11: work to part time work, you.

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Speaker 8: Can see in the jobs.

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Speaker 11: And that's what people do when when the employment market

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Speaker 11: starts to get a little bit tighty and move people

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Speaker 11: to part time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, optimism question number two better spending.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, more money, more money.

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Speaker 11: Sotail retails down the dumps, isn't it along with HOSPO

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Speaker 11: and the anecdotal evidence and company evidence seems to reinforce.

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Speaker 8: The green shoots in these areas are hard to find.

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Speaker 11: So yes, it was a little surprising in a good

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Speaker 11: sense to see better than expected retail trade.

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Speaker 8: Numbers released on Friday by statsn's Z so these are

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Speaker 11: This adds to the picture the millieure that we get

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Speaker 11: from the month the electronic card transaction data. Retail trade

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Speaker 11: volumes lifted zero point eight percent quarter on quarter, stronger

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Speaker 11: than the local economists had expected, so consensus there looking

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Speaker 11: at little or no move. The previous quarter was also

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Speaker 11: revised up, albeit very small, from zero.

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Speaker 8: Point nine percent to one percent.

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Speaker 11: Now, look, retail trade, it isn't the biggest contributor to GDP.

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Speaker 11: I think it's less than ten percent, but this number

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Speaker 11: is moving in the right direction. Yearly retail trade volumes

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Speaker 11: increased by zero point seven percent. Also might seems to

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Speaker 11: ten out of fifteen categories have seen increases in volumes.

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Speaker 8: Just a wee damp.

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Speaker 11: I don't mean to rain on the parade, but core

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Speaker 11: retail was only up zero point four percent, which is

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Speaker 11: not exactly frothy, but there are some there's some pockets

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Speaker 11: of light in the discretionary spending clothing, footwear, specialized food.

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Speaker 8: And we keep saying it might. We keep saying that.

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Speaker 11: Effect of lower mortgage rates slowly feeding where through their

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Speaker 11: way through the New Zealand households should provide support for

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Speaker 11: spending over the second half of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 8: But we're waiting. We're just waiting for that to show

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Speaker 8: up in the data.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of spending from the budget, would you if you

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Speaker 2: can write it off? Is this where we're heading with us? Sorry,

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Speaker 2: in what sense of the investment boost.

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Speaker 8: The investment boost. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Look, so I was in Sydney last week, got back

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Speaker 11: Friday night and catching up on the budget over the weekend.

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Speaker 11: This investment boost seems to be the seems to be

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Speaker 11: the key talking point, doesn't it. Lots of comments over

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Speaker 11: the weekend. I just want to make a couple of

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Speaker 11: very quick comments, Mike. The cost to the government is

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Speaker 11: in the form of lower tax revenue. The government doesn't

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Speaker 11: actually pay out anything and that seems to be a

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Speaker 11: little bit of a misconception. Scope is very wide, captures

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Speaker 11: many many areas of spend no cap But Mike, remember

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Speaker 11: if a business is able to claim a big depreciation

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Speaker 11: expense spence, what have they done. They have invested a

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Speaker 11: lot of money and that is beneficial to the local economy.

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Speaker 11: Should be a talent to companies looking to commit capital expenditure.

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Speaker 8: It should improve confidence. That is critical.

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Speaker 2: Fingers cross numbers please.

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Speaker 8: The Dow Jones fell two hundred fifty six points.

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Speaker 11: Trump more sort of tariff dramas there so took a

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Speaker 11: forty one thousand, six hundred and three down point six

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Speaker 11: it was down one percent actually eighty thousand, seven hundred

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Paul I alluded to obviously Rod tomorrow, but

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Speaker 2: We've got more change coming to Auckland City's density rules.

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Speaker 13: I disagree that people don't want to be downtown. I mean,

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Speaker 2: And so that's the up. It's an apartment and that's

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Speaker 13: Yeah, lifestyle is when I think about it. But you know,

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Speaker 13: not actually radically different lifestyle. Do you mean that people

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So that sounds like a like a cool idea.

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Speaker 13: I mean not utopia. They'll sill be problems in the world,

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Speaker 2: All right, well, let's bring you back and see when

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Speaker 15: So then the new bit now will be the old bit,

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Speaker 2: See normally that would just be stupid. But the way

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Speaker 2: He caught us cold. Over the weekend, Chris Luxon was

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy. The current age is sixty seven, so most

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Speaker 2: of the world's already above sixty five. We're a bit

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Speaker 2: of an outlier. But the retirement debates alive and well,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to have more of that after seven

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Speaker 2: six to forty five.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand.

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Speaker 7: Business Richard, I I'm morning to you back online morning Mane.

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Speaker 2: You're fantastic. So the year raids is no peace talks,

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Speaker 2: no cease, fine, no, nothing.

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Speaker 7: That's right from Washington and Stoney silent to me. The

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Speaker 7: latest Russian assault on Ukraine coming as the Trump team

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Speaker 7: seems to have backed away from its core for a

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Speaker 7: thirty day seas fire. We don't hear them talking about

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Speaker 7: that anymore. Trump himself has openly speculated that the US

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Speaker 7: could remove itself entirely from any military support for Ukraine

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Speaker 7: as these body battles go on, long after President Trump

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Speaker 7: insisted repeatedly during his campaign that yeah, he could end

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Speaker 7: this war within twenty four hours. He said that over

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Speaker 7: and again. The latest aerial assault by Russia's being described

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Speaker 7: as the biggest since the Russian invasion began. More than

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Speaker 7: thirty Ukrainian cities were targeted by drones and missiles. Three

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Speaker 7: hundred and sixty seven Russian drones and missiles were fired.

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Speaker 7: This includes fifty six cruise missiles and four guided their missiles.

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Speaker 7: Along with the drones. Most were shot down or otherwise

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Speaker 7: neutralized by the Ukrainians who were still working with Western

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Speaker 7: defense systems. Still, twelve people have been killed, including three children,

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Speaker 7: in the northern region of Zatimir. Now, this follows the

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Speaker 7: recent prisoner exchange that we've been seeing one thousand prisoners

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Speaker 7: from each side allowed to go free with Washington shifting policies, though,

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Speaker 7: the EU and Britain have unveiled a new round of sanctions,

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Speaker 7: this time targeting what's called the Russian shadow Fleet, which

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Speaker 7: has been used to transport Russian oil exports. When it

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Speaker 7: comes to any further American sanctions on Moscow, well, the

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Speaker 7: time team sitting on the sidelines, with Secretary of State

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Speaker 7: Rubio saying that sanctions are counterproductive as peace talks are

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Speaker 7: being pressed, but little stone of Putin being too interested

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Speaker 7: in any peace talks. And Ukraine now is reported to

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Speaker 7: have made a bold attempt to kill Putin by targeting

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Speaker 7: him with drones looking at his military helicopter while he

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Speaker 7: was visiting the Kurk region the other day. So the

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Speaker 7: Russian defense has prevented that, but that was the intention.

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Speaker 2: It seems interesting. And then is this an inside job?

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Speaker 2: This New Orleans thing? I mean, how many people only

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Speaker 2: knew what was going on? There's a few.

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Speaker 7: It's not quite the scale of the Great Escape, the

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Speaker 7: Second World War saga with Steve McQueen and co. But

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Speaker 7: it's getting bigger and bigger. Seven people now have been

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Speaker 7: arrested over the New Orleans jail break. But over a

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Speaker 7: week ago this happened, ten prisoners got out, five still

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Speaker 7: on the The latest arrest come from those alleged to

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Speaker 7: have helped. That includes an inmate named Trayvon Williams who

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Speaker 7: was said to have supplied a blanket to help these

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Speaker 7: escapees get over the jails, raise a wire fence topping.

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Speaker 7: He's also said to have gone into their cell for

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Speaker 7: about thirty minutes while they made the getaway, after shutting

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Speaker 7: off water to the toilet and tunneling their way out.

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Speaker 7: William says he doesn't remember while he was in the

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Speaker 7: escapees cell, and he says he asked for help to

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Speaker 7: turn off the water to the toilet because it was

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Speaker 7: claud Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Sure.

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Speaker 7: Meantime, others have been charged as accomplices after the prisoner's escaped,

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Speaker 7: including one who supplied the fleeing inmates with the cash

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Speaker 7: through a mobile phone app. So there's some high tech here, allegedly,

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Speaker 7: and those charged as helpers could face prison terms themselves

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Speaker 7: of up to five years.

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Speaker 2: Mate, all right, I'll catch you on Wednesday. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Richard on stateside say to this meme dinner, so this

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Speaker 2: is the Trump mean coin And he said a couple

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Speaker 2: of bit And I still ask the question. And this

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Speaker 2: is applicable to the plane as well as the meme

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Speaker 2: dinner and a bunch of other activities. I mean, where's

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Speaker 2: the law in this? So anyway, he's got this meme coin,

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Speaker 2: and a meme coin's connected to nothing, of course, it's

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Speaker 2: just a thing that you might want to pay him

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Speaker 2: some money for. And he said, top wallet holders are

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Speaker 2: going to have dinner, special dinner, most exclusive thing in

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Speaker 2: the world. So it happened on Friday. They spent one

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Speaker 2: hundred for these suckers who bought this meme coin spent

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty eight million dollars. So they went

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Speaker 2: to his golf club in Virginia, black tie gala, two

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty of them. He was there for twenty

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Speaker 2: three minutes, so he turns up for twenty three minutes.

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Speaker 2: Nicholas Pintot was there, and Nicholas didn't have the best

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Speaker 2: time because Nicholas doesn't drink, and the only drink's on

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Speaker 2: off a word Trump wine, and if you didn't drink

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Speaker 2: wine or didn't drink there was nothing else apart from

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Speaker 2: water in his glass only got filled once, so the

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Speaker 2: service was crap. Trump was only there for twenty three minutes.

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Speaker 2: He didn't speak to anyone apart from a crowd where

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Speaker 2: he just reworked a lot of crypto talk and then

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Speaker 2: he left.

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Speaker 8: So he's there for about twenty minutes longer than you

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Speaker 8: would have.

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Speaker 2: Been exactly.

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Speaker 5: So, And man was that?

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Speaker 2: And where's all the money gone? Other matters in America,

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Congress is blocking California. California want

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Speaker 2: to buy banned petrol cars. Congress is now stepping into

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Speaker 2: stop that, which is encouraging. Meantime, the Supreme Court for

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Speaker 2: important ruling on Friday. So much going on in that

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Speaker 2: part of the world. So this allows Trump the president,

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Speaker 2: not to sack the FED governor, which he wants to do,

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Speaker 2: but he can sack seemingly Fed Reserve board members. So

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Speaker 2: he can sack the board members, but he can't sack

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Speaker 2: the governor. So that's from Scotus as of Friday. If

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Speaker 2: you're following all of this, this crazy world. Ten minutes

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Speaker 2: away from seven the Mike.

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Speaker 1: Hosting Great Best with a Vita Retirement, Communities News, Togs

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Speaker 1: dead been.

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Speaker 2: Like, I want to retire up there soon. Please don't

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Speaker 2: mention the name of the place. We camp at Martin's

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Speaker 2: Bay have done for fourteen years. Muttain Bay is beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Our walk with Snells Maticana best kept secret. Well it's

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Speaker 2: not really a secret anymore. That's part of the problem.

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Speaker 2: Won't be long before. It's one hundred and ten the

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Speaker 2: whole way. Really, I wish that were true when they announced.

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Speaker 2: So how long ago do they announce that? Whle little

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Speaker 2: Simmy and Brown Minister of Transport, Oh, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be one hundred and ten, You think when sim in

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Speaker 2: in my lifetime, idiots are still trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: what speed to slow down to in the tunnel. I

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Speaker 2: know it's done.

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Speaker 8: Don't even get me start.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Canada as a result of this whole

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Speaker 2: trade business I mentioned Trump and Europe fifty percent. He's

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Speaker 2: not even looking for a deal allegedly anyway. So the

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Speaker 2: forecasts over the weekend in Canada. So they've got major issues.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of their business, of course, goes into

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Speaker 2: the United States early stages of recession, there forecasting unemployment

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Speaker 2: to rise the exports to fall. The economists surveyed by

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Speaker 2: Bloomberg the output's going to shrink. They think one percent

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Speaker 2: for the second court, zero point one for the third court.

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Speaker 2: Exports will drop seven and a half percent on an

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Speaker 2: annualized basis in the current quarter. They expect inflation to

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Speaker 2: run above the Central Bank's target at two point one

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Speaker 2: percent for the third quarter two point two for the fourth.

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Speaker 2: So they got major problems. They've got themselves a new

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Speaker 2: prime minister who will understand all of those figures intricately.

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Speaker 2: But what he does about it is the clue, of course,

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Speaker 2: five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: While the ins and the ouse, it's the fears with

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Speaker 1: business favor take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is where the travel comes in, because of

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Speaker 2: course it's they're unfolding into the European or Northern hemisphere

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Speaker 2: if you like. Summer and travel in the States is

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Speaker 2: proving to be really problematic. This is a company called Syrium.

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Speaker 2: They've looked at bookings between jen and early May, as

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Speaker 2: in you now, so this is for travel in June,

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Speaker 2: July and August their summer. It's down ten percent. And

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Speaker 2: that's from major US airports to European destination, so Americans

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Speaker 2: are not traveling. Flight's book from Europe into the US

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Speaker 2: are down twelve percent because it's that chilling effect is real.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to get frisked at the border? Are

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Speaker 2: they going to check your phone? Have you ever said

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Speaker 2: anything on social media you might regret about Trump? Whatever?

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Speaker 2: For Asia, bookings are up. Increase plights to Hong Kong

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Speaker 2: and Tokyo elsewhere, though down, domestic travel in the US

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Speaker 2: is down five percent. That's flying. However, the Deloitte twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five Travels Survey, which is a different set of numbers,

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Speaker 2: shows Americans still plan to travel this summer. Data show

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Speaker 2: to five percent increase and leisure trips those trips a

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Speaker 2: value significantly chief and these are people just jumping in

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Speaker 2: their car and going from one place to another. If

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Speaker 2: you are going internationally. There was yet another piece of

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Speaker 2: research out over the weekend. Where would you go if

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Speaker 2: you're American? Top ten international destination for US travelers? Number

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Speaker 2: ten Cape Karna which is in the Dominican Republic, which

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Speaker 2: is close by Venice, Barcelona, put to Kana, which is

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Speaker 2: once again in the Dominican Republic. Carbo. It's always carbo,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? Where are you going to gain a carbo? Rome?

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Speaker 2: London is three, Paris is two, Cancun, Mexico number one,

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Speaker 2: just down the road. You're helping your car and not

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Speaker 2: the go down the cancuon. Now another sanction is coming

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Speaker 2: for your benefits if you haven't followed this one. So

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Speaker 2: we had the light system right, and you don't want

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Speaker 2: to be on a red you've got green, orange, red,

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Speaker 2: reds bad. Now we're going to take some of your

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Speaker 2: benefit money if you're not behaving yourself, and we're going

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Speaker 2: to wack it on a card. And that card means

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Speaker 2: it's not a financial punishment. You still get the same

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Speaker 2: amount of money, but the money on the card, which

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Speaker 2: is half your benefit, you can only use at certain outlets,

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Speaker 2: so you can forget the bathing and the booze. In

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Speaker 2: other words, so what's this designed to achieve? Is this

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Speaker 2: just bashing people over there for no particular reason. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to Louise Upstin about that after the News, which

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Speaker 2: is next. There's Monday monding on the My Costing Breakfast

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Speaker 2: here at News Talk, Sad.

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Speaker 1: News, opinion and everything in between. The mic Costing Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with the range rover Villa designed to intrigue and use

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Speaker 1: togs head bing.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. More benefit sanctions coming today for those

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Speaker 2: not meeting their require It's payment cards being introduced. They

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Speaker 2: can only be used to approve retailers. Minister Social Development

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Speaker 2: and Employment Louise Upstein back with us. Good morning, Good

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Speaker 2: morning to you, Mike. So today's new sanctions was this

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Speaker 2: always part of the bigot picture or has this come

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Speaker 2: out of leftish field.

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Speaker 16: No, this was one of the plans we had coming

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Speaker 16: into the campaign to have additional non financial sanctions and

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Speaker 16: to make sure that those on welfare fulfill their obligations.

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Speaker 2: What do you gain by doing this, Well, we ensure.

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Speaker 16: That those who are receiving welfare are taking the steps

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Speaker 16: they need to to help themselves find a job, and

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Speaker 16: that there's clear consequences when they don't.

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Speaker 2: Right, is this just job the people looking for jobs

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Speaker 2: or is this welfare generally? And if it's just welfare generally,

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Speaker 2: what will they have not done to get this particular sanction.

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Speaker 16: Well, we've got a target to reduce the number of

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Speaker 16: people on job seeker benefits, so I do focus on

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Speaker 16: job seekers first, but it does apply more broadly. And

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Speaker 16: these are really common sense things that help people find

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Speaker 16: a job. Okay, turn up to MSD, turn up to

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Speaker 16: a job interview, have a CV, take a job if

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Speaker 16: it's offered.

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Speaker 2: Is it a punishment, I mean you're still getting the

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Speaker 2: same amount of money, it's just you can't go spend

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Speaker 2: it on booze, on vaping.

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Speaker 16: I mean it's a different it's a different type of

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Speaker 16: punishment and it's non financial. And look, at the end

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Speaker 16: of the day, we want more people to be taking

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Speaker 16: the steps they need to to find a job. So

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Speaker 16: actually they're practical and common sense, and we want to

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Speaker 16: see fewer people on welfare and more people in work.

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Speaker 2: Are you wandering into people's personal rights at this particular

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Speaker 2: point in time if they're not doing you know, you're

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Speaker 2: saying you can't go here, you can't shop there, you start.

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Speaker 2: It's a fairly delicate ground, aren't you.

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Speaker 16: No, definitely not.

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Speaker 13: They have a choice.

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Speaker 16: They receive welfare from other taxpayers, so they have obligations

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Speaker 16: to take certain steps. So absolutely I reject that this

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Speaker 16: is trampling on their rights. If they don't want to

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Speaker 16: have these consequences, all they have to do is comply

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Speaker 16: with their obligations.

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Speaker 13: It's pretty simple.

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Speaker 2: How many people on the light system and of those people,

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Speaker 2: how many people do you think will end up on

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Speaker 2: this sort of particular punishment.

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Speaker 16: Well, in terms of the traffic light system, the great

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Speaker 16: news is that ninety eight percent are on green and

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Speaker 16: only one point two are in red, So less than

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Speaker 16: four thousand people are in red, which means they face consequences.

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Speaker 12: That's a very small number.

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Speaker 2: Whacking them again. Is that going to help you, reckon

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Speaker 2: or are they just beyond help?

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Speaker 16: Well, we just want them to take things, take the

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Speaker 16: steps that we believe will help them get closer towards

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Speaker 16: a job. So they're simple, they're practical and they will

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Speaker 16: help themselves if they take these steps.

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Speaker 2: Brush attat Luiz Almston, Minister for Social Development and Employment,

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Speaker 2: ten minutes past seven past game you dart around mental health.

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Speaker 2: Past two years an extra fifteen hundred kit under fourteen

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Speaker 2: have been added to our weightless medental surgery. Now that's

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Speaker 2: nearly three thousand have been waiting more than one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty days. Apparently. Robin Wyman's at the New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Dental Association and as with us, Robin morning to you,

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Speaker 2: morning mite. Is the school system not working?

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Speaker 17: The school or what used to be called the school

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Speaker 17: edital service, the community oral health service is in some difficulty.

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Speaker 17: It is short of therapists, that's dental therapists and oral

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Speaker 17: health therapists. They're the key clinician you need to deliver

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Speaker 17: that service and so with the work force shortage, they

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Speaker 17: are very behind in terms of seeing our pre and

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Speaker 17: primary school children.

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Speaker 2: Is this a geography problem. There are certain areas we

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Speaker 2: can point to and know that this is where the

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Speaker 2: issues are.

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Speaker 17: It is a nationwide problem, but there are pockets where

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Speaker 17: the numbers have been very very behind. To Auckland and

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Speaker 17: Waikato we know from the data are more behind than many.

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Speaker 17: But actually it's a nationwide problem really.

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Speaker 2: And I emphasize the word surgery, but what is it

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Speaker 2: you're getting done for surgery apart from extraction.

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Speaker 17: So young children who would be going to hospitals or

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Speaker 17: theaters across the country to have their teeth attended to,

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Speaker 17: a lot of the work would be dental extractions because

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Speaker 17: the teeth are past the point where we can repair them.

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Speaker 17: But we also do a lot of fillings, a lot

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Speaker 17: of repairing those teeth so we can hold onto them,

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Speaker 17: and they are important to hang on to where we

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Speaker 17: can because they help the developing permanent teeth.

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Speaker 2: Strikes me as one of those things that you can

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Speaker 2: potentially address to it agree if you got hold of

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Speaker 2: the parents and we started off doing it at home.

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Speaker 2: So in other words, you know, diet you may or

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Speaker 2: may not get ahead on, but dentistry is sort of

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Speaker 2: easily sold to the kid brushes their teeth on a

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Speaker 2: regular basis.

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Speaker 17: Isn't it no doubt that rutbrushing teeth with a fluoridated

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Speaker 17: toothpaste twice a day, that's our absolute recommendation from the

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Speaker 17: association is an important part of this. And so yes,

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Speaker 17: early contact with parents and early understanding of what needs

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Speaker 17: to be done to look after dental health is a

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Speaker 17: very important part of preventing this disease.

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Speaker 2: Is that being done clearly?

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Speaker 8: Not?

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Speaker 17: Obviously it's so difficult. We have not just the therapist

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Speaker 17: delivering that service. Plunket and the early childhood providers do

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Speaker 17: provide that level of support and help to our young children,

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Speaker 17: but with workforce shortages, absolutely those contacts are not as

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Speaker 17: frequent as they should be.

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Speaker 2: Is anyone fixing this? Dentistry has always been a problem,

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Speaker 2: hasn't it?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: This is slightly different to the wider dentustry issues that

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Speaker 17: we talk about because this is the publicly funded part

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Speaker 17: of the service, and both in the community oral health

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Speaker 17: service and then what we're doing in the hospitals. There

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Speaker 17: is some glimmer of understanding in the Health New Zealand

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Speaker 17: workforce plans. So if you look at the twenty twenty

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Speaker 17: three and twenty twenty four plans. They do talk about

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Speaker 17: the shortage they have a viral health therapists. It's around

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Speaker 17: about twenty percent in the two thousand and three plan,

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Speaker 17: twenty three plan. The problem with this it's not joined up, Mike.

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Speaker 17: They have Health New Zealand saying they have shortages, but

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Speaker 17: you've got to then be working across into the tertiary

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Speaker 17: education sector with them being supported with additional funding and

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Speaker 17: a joined up plan. So we actually trained more therapists

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Speaker 17: and more dentists, so.

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Speaker 2: It's not coordinated. Who would have thought that. Appreciate it?

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Speaker 2: Robin Robin Wyam in New Zealand Dental Association, thirteen minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven, Husky I Detective. So many of our own problems, Mike,

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Speaker 2: Five of us been in the US Miami for the

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Speaker 2: last three weeks. We could not get over how easy

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Speaker 2: it was entering and leaving the states, no issues whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: It's a good point, Bruce, ninety nine point nine nine

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Speaker 2: nine nine nine percent of people will go in and

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Speaker 2: out of the States these days with no problems whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: But it's the chilling effect that's having, the cancelation of

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Speaker 2: the tickets and people not going. Mike, well done, Liam Lawson,

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Speaker 2: It was just a matter of time. Absolutely, he did

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Speaker 2: very well. If you missed it, he started ninth, finished eighth.

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Speaker 2: But the key was the team's strategy. They sacrificed him

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Speaker 2: to a degree to get had your up the field.

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Speaker 2: I won't explain it now, but we'll talk about it later,

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Speaker 2: but it was a very clever strategy. He played his part,

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Speaker 2: had you played their part. As a team they scored

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Speaker 2: really well. So it's been a fantastic time in Monaco.

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Speaker 2: Overnight fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: B Nikola Willison for the Prime Minister this morning, shortly

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Speaker 2: seventeen past seven. New idea for rugby. We've got a

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Speaker 2: Club Rugby World Cup. As of twenty twenty eight, sixteen

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Speaker 2: teams involved, eight from the Northern Hemisphere, eight from Super

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Speaker 2: Rugby in Japan. Andrew Hawr is the CEO of the

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Speaker 2: Auckland Blues and as with us, Andrew, morning to you,

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Speaker 2: good morning, how are you mine? Very well? Indeed, how

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Speaker 2: long have this been bubbling?

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Speaker 12: Oh for a number of years actually during COVID was

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Speaker 12: first mooted and discussed and started between the PCR and

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Speaker 12: a couple of clubs here and yeah.

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Speaker 13: The breaque bureau cotic wheels are ready to take.

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Speaker 6: We're at a time to turn.

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Speaker 10: But we're excited that announcement. We haven't don't know all

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Speaker 10: the details that's been agreed.

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Speaker 2: But it's a thing.

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Speaker 12: It is happening from their perspective that they come to

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Speaker 12: an agreement that from our understanding. So when we last

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Speaker 12: heard it was moving in a positive direction.

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Speaker 2: When are we playing it in this world of rugby?

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Speaker 2: Which particular window were we finding to pop in another tournament?

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Speaker 10: We see where this time is when the World Cups

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Speaker 10: on in to seventeen, there are sorry to twenty seven,

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Speaker 10: there's an extended break after that, and that will give

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Speaker 10: us that window that's available. Our windows are fixed, so

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Speaker 10: that's been part of the ongoing discussion is when to

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Speaker 10: fit that in. So you'll have to amend our competition

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Speaker 10: slightly and the discussions on how that will look and

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Speaker 10: then then we'll go through to this World Championship, which

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Speaker 10: will be great and it's something that fans have been

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Speaker 10: asking for. I think when we had our success at

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Speaker 10: last year, straight away to lose we're asking wanting to

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Speaker 10: their fans were wanting to have this fixture, so something

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Speaker 10: that people have been asking for for a long time, Mike,

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Speaker 10: and we're extremely excited by it.

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Speaker 2: What's the quality of the competition as you would assess

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Speaker 2: it this Monday.

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Speaker 6: Morning, our current competition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as in like the best side would be a

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Speaker 2: mile better than the worst side, or it would be

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Speaker 2: a tight competition, or anyone could win it, or you

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Speaker 2: go into it knowing there will be two sides that'll

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Speaker 2: make the fine laud of matter.

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Speaker 6: Ye, it'll be extremely close.

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Speaker 12: I think if you look even though at our competition

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Speaker 12: with the changes that are being made now, I think

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Speaker 12: there's there's four teams vying for next week for near

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Speaker 12: on one spot and going into the fine round. So

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Speaker 12: now Europe, if they take the best of the European clubs,

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Speaker 12: there is very little between to lose on a Lenster

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Speaker 12: for example.

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Speaker 10: So it'll be eagerly con tested.

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Speaker 12: And I think one of the issues, or one of

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Speaker 12: the exciting parts, is different brands of rugby playing one another,

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Speaker 12: and not only that, actually we don't know how far

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Speaker 12: one is away from the other, and this will give

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Speaker 12: a great benchmarking to see how we're going internationally, which

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Speaker 12: is great. And the old thing is that commercially it

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Speaker 12: brings so many opportunities. We're in a global market and

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Speaker 12: we need to be thinking about global revenues.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty eight, here we coome Andrew Precat, Andrew Haw

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Speaker 2: who's the blue CEO. What what's that oneapecific thing about?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's going on there? So one week they

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Speaker 2: will several times this season while they're fantastic, they win,

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Speaker 2: they beat, and then they turn up and get done

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Speaker 2: like that? What's that? How do you explain it?

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Speaker 8: Well, it's the chief.

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Speaker 2: from About Health Asking Now seven twenty four So Peter

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00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: Dutton right in Australia, it is suggested will never truly know,

880
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: but it is suggested lost election because of his new

881
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: clear issue and work from home policies. Now I personally

882
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: think he lost because they ran a hopeless campaign, But

883
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: it is more than possible that he floated a couple

884
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Speaker 2: of ideas that the voter simply would not stomach. And

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering Christopher Luxen is heading in a similar direction

886
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 2: here with the superannuation ideas. Nuclear makes sense. You can

887
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: argue that nuclear makes sense working from home headed his productivity,

888
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: you can argue cogently about that as well. But the

889
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: voter's always right, and being a voter beats logic sometimes

890
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: will the voter be right here on superannuation? Are there

891
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Speaker 2: enough New Zealanders who have landed on the very simple

892
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 2: truth that sixty five as a pension age is no

893
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: longer sensible nor affordable. It's going to be twenty eight

894
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: billion dollars a year before you know, twenty eight billion

895
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: dollars a year and growing, which seems worse now because

896
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: we're broke, of course, but even in the best of times,

897
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: it's a stunning amount of money. National are going to

898
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Speaker 2: take it to the vote next year. They may be

899
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Speaker 2: saved from themselves, of course by New Zealand. First of

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00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: they're still in the mix because that'll be a bottom

901
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: line for them, I'm imagining. But we reach the entre

902
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: point where logic and emotion collide. Super For many of

903
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: us untouchable, it's a lifetime's worth of work. I paid

904
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: my taxes, even though that line isn't actually real. I mean,

905
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: we spent your taxes years ago and then borrowed a

906
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Speaker 2: bit more to keep the lights on. Sixty five is

907
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: the new fifty and post COVID old older workers have

908
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: never been in more demand. The days of being out

909
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: to pasture are increasingly gone. Sixty five is not old.

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Speaker 2: Imagine a day where you enter the workforce knowing you

911
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Speaker 2: need to take care of yourself because the rules have changed.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, if you strike trouble, the pigion is

913
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: a welfare payment, not an entitlement. But we either have

914
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Speaker 2: to change the narrative and mindset from entitlement to welfare,

915
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: or we need to up the age. Even in upping

916
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: the age over time, even giving years worth of notice,

917
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Speaker 2: it's still a very, very big core Politically. It underlines

918
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: our desire for free stuff, basically or perceived free stuff.

919
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: Once you set a precedent with money, it is fantastically

920
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: hard to undo. But Luxon apparently is super again to

921
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: give it a crack, he calls it a no brainer.

922
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Speaker 2: First clue, there aren't many who think it's a no brainer.

923
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Speaker 2: I mean, labour learned the hard way over the capital

924
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Speaker 2: gains tax. For goodness sake, it took them three times

925
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Speaker 2: to learn that. Lesson. Luxon may be about to learn

926
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Speaker 2: something similar. Asking welling Mike, I've been unemployed for a year.

927
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Speaker 2: I don't have to work because I've got some health issues.

928
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Speaker 2: But I want to work. I start my new job today.

929
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Speaker 2: I'm fifty seven. It's full time. Well done, You go

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Speaker 2: get them. I hope you have the very best of days.

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Speaker 2: Let me know how it goes, Mike. Why isn't anyone

932
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Speaker 2: asking why parents are taking responsibility for the children's dental health? Brushings?

933
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Speaker 2: One teeth is not a new concept. Not We have

934
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Speaker 2: the same argument every single time. There are some parents

935
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Speaker 2: who do in some parents who don't. Diet's also another side.

936
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Speaker 2: I mean, you can have your kids brush your teeth,

937
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Speaker 2: but if you're not eating the right food, then it's

938
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Speaker 2: all problematic, isn't it now? Nikola Willa is doing the

939
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Speaker 2: business for Christopher Lexin's when he's got a cold. I

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Speaker 2: would have phrased it differently. If I had a cold,

941
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Speaker 2: I'd be here have been here with cold, So just

942
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Speaker 2: having a cold and not being available as the Prime

943
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Speaker 2: Minister doesn't really strike me as the greatest excuse them.

944
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Speaker 2: Nikola comes on and go, look, Mike, you've been far

945
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Speaker 2: too hard. I saw him. I had to resuscitate him.

946
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Speaker 2: He's barely a life. Goodness sake, he's on some breathing apparatus.

947
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Speaker 2: Then I'll happily apologize. But a cold is, to be frank,

948
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Speaker 2: not quite good enough. And then we need to dabble

949
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Speaker 2: in the sport. The lads and the commentary Box. After

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Speaker 2: Wright on the Mike Hosking breaks.

951
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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The Mic

952
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953
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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news talks head be three minutes away.

954
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Speaker 2: Promote the commentary Box, of course, Jason Pin and Andrews Sebil

955
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Speaker 2: After eight o'clock meantime, as we've told you this morning,

956
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Speaker 2: the ponies are not well, so the Finance Minister is

957
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Speaker 2: doing the business boris Nickoler. Willison's well, that's very good

958
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Speaker 2: morning to you.

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Speaker 18: Good morning, great to be on the show mate.

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Speaker 2: How sick is the Prime Minister?

961
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Speaker 18: He's got a virus, just like every human being gets

962
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Speaker 18: from time to time. Turns out even prime ministers aren't

963
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Speaker 18: one hundred percent immune to everything.

964
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Speaker 2: Have you checked that he shouldn't be at work and

965
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Speaker 2: he's a bit soft?

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Speaker 18: Well. I actually saw him on Saturday where he head

967
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Speaker 18: on the bravest face I've seen, but I could see

968
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Speaker 18: he was in that fog of illness where you're smiling

969
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Speaker 18: but on the inside you're dying. And so I was

970
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Speaker 18: pleased to hear that he was going to take a

971
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Speaker 18: little bit of rest this morning.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are you cognizant what's happening on the Northern Motorway

973
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Speaker 2: in the speed limit one hundred et cetera or not?

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Speaker 19: Do you know?

975
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Speaker 18: I am because Chris Bishop, our Transport minister, contacted me

976
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Speaker 18: last night to say, if you're on Mike tomorrow, he's

977
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Speaker 18: going to ask you about this because he is obsessed

978
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Speaker 18: with it.

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Speaker 5: And we respect your obsessions. Mike.

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Speaker 18: The word of sess this line of questioning.

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Speaker 2: The word obsessed is I take umbradge at that. But

982
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Speaker 2: what I didn't what I didn't realize is that you've

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Speaker 2: only increased a small chunk of it five kilometers and

984
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Speaker 2: it's not even the new But what is wrong with

985
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Speaker 2: us that we just can't get on with it.

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Speaker 18: Well, look, it's all to do with PPPs and the

987
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Speaker 18: requirements of those. But there's still work being done on

988
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Speaker 18: it and there will be future developments, and Chris Biship

989
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Speaker 18: has said that I can promise you then when those

990
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Speaker 18: future developments occur, your show is where they will be announced.

991
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Speaker 2: Okay, So how hard is it to just simply say

992
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: we've got a brand new piece of road. It's one

993
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Speaker 2: hundred and ten enjoy.

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Speaker 18: So what it's about is the requirements for maintenance of

995
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Speaker 18: the road and making sure that the specifications are being

996
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Speaker 18: met and that that speed can be accommodated within the contracts.

997
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Speaker 18: So that's all being worked through.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you got a timeline on this.

999
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Speaker 18: I don't, but I, as I say, Chris Biship is

1000
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Speaker 18: all over this and is quite keen to be able

1001
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Speaker 18: to keep talking to you about it, because, as you know,

1002
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Speaker 18: we want people to be able to drive faster on

1003
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Speaker 18: good roads where it's safe to do so. And it

1004
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Speaker 18: looks like a pretty good road to me.

1005
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Speaker 2: The simplicity thing that you did yesterday, the housing that

1006
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Speaker 2: you're on the news for where you disappointed the bloke

1007
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Speaker 2: who was showing you around went on the news and

1008
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Speaker 2: said that it's that your depreciation things not good enough

1009
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Speaker 2: because there's no pipeline anyway. In other words, you showed

1010
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Speaker 2: you a bit of hospitality than knife Jab.

1011
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 18: Well, he's allowed to say what he's going to say.

1012
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Speaker 18: But I tell you what, I have been genuinely overwhelmed

1013
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 18: by the amount of positive feedback I have had about

1014
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 18: investment Booth so far to the extent that as I

1015
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 18: was flying home yesterday, I had several people come up

1016
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Speaker 18: to me in the airport. I had someone on the

1017
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 18: plane say to me, love that policy. We're going to

1018
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 18: bring forward our investment and our vegetable kit that we've

1019
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 18: got in the processing plant. I've had farmers telling me

1020
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 18: that it's the nudge they need to buy a new tractor.

1021
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 18: I've had people, even in a chicken processing plant, say

1022
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 18: we were going to do twelve million dollars worth of investment.

1023
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 18: It's now going to be eighteen. So we're getting great

1024
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Speaker 18: feedback across the country that this is the nudge a

1025
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Speaker 18: lot of businesses need to make those investments and get

1026
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Speaker 18: growing again.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any sense, and I mean I think

1028
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: the answers know, but how much are people going to

1029
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: spend therefore, how much are they going to depreciate? Therefore

1030
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: how much are they not going to pay you tax?

1031
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Speaker 18: Well, there's two parts to it. There's those who are

1032
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 18: going to be making investments anyway, so for them this

1033
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 18: policy means a bit more cash flow because there's less

1034
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 18: tax going to the taxman, more money for them to

1035
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Speaker 18: invest in their business. Then the second thing is how

1036
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Speaker 18: many new investments get brought forward as a result of

1037
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 18: this policy. That's a bit harder to judge, but when

1038
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 18: we look around the world at countries who have done

1039
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Speaker 18: policies like this, the evidence is pretty clear that people

1040
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 18: make investments they wouldn't have otherwise made. And that's what

1041
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Speaker 18: we've reflected in our costings, that's what we've reflected in

1042
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Speaker 18: the estimates. And frankly, if we over deliver on this

1043
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Speaker 18: and it costs more because more people are investing, I

1044
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 18: think the growth dividend will be well worth it because

1045
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 18: that means bigger jobs, more pay more opportunities for New Zealanders.

1046
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Speaker 2: I note also this coverage this morning on the business

1047
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Speaker 2: of this outsourcing of elective operations to the private sector.

1048
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: I can't work out what's the problem with it if

1049
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: you can't do it publicly and you give it to

1050
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: somebody else to do and it gets done and therefore

1051
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: it reduces a waiting list. Why do people moan about that?

1052
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 18: Unfortunately, some people always get by down in ideology, don't they?

1053
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Speaker 18: Whereas I think most New Zealanders just want to get

1054
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Speaker 18: their hip operation or their cataract operation sooner, and Simeon

1055
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Speaker 18: Brown is absolutely focused on that target, which is why

1056
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Speaker 18: he's saying, let's make use of some of those empty

1057
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Speaker 18: operating theaters in the private sector. Many of our doctors

1058
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Speaker 18: and specialists work in those hospitals week to week anyway,

1059
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Speaker 18: so it's not a big change in that sense. But

1060
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Speaker 18: let's get them on longer term contracts so they can

1061
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Speaker 18: predict how many operations they'll be doing and get more

1062
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Speaker 18: people the care that they need sooner. So this is

1063
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Speaker 18: a good policy, but you can ever deal with the ideologues.

1064
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Speaker 18: They're always out there.

1065
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Speaker 2: Before he took to his sick bed, Chrystal Bluxen called

1066
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Speaker 2: the super debate and no brainer. And I'm assuming you

1067
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Speaker 2: guys are going to the election next year with it.

1068
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Speaker 2: How do you introduce it? What age do you go

1069
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: to over what period of time and how much political

1070
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 2: capital do you think you will burn.

1071
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Speaker 18: Well, those are conversations our caucus will need to have

1072
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Speaker 18: ahead of the election, because we think it's very important

1073
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Speaker 18: that if there were to be any change to this

1074
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Speaker 18: really major entitlement that many New Zealanders are relying on

1075
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Speaker 18: for their retirement, that one we're upfront about what we're

1076
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Speaker 18: planning to change, but two that we give people time

1077
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Speaker 18: to prepare and to plan because it could be a

1078
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Speaker 18: significant change. We haven't had those discussions yet. Everyone knows

1079
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Speaker 18: that at the last election we campaigned on a gradual

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Speaker 18: increase in the age of eligibility, reflecting the fact that

1081
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Speaker 18: people are working longer and living longer, and that we

1082
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Speaker 18: signaled that there would be several years out from the

1083
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Speaker 18: time of announcement. So we'll have another discussion as a caucus.

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Speaker 18: The thing is, we're all realists in the National Party.

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Speaker 18: The cost of superannuation to current and future tax payers

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Speaker 18: is growing significantly, and at some point a future government

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Speaker 18: is either going to have to slap a lot more

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Speaker 18: tax on people or is going to have to front

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Speaker 18: up to whether the settings can be tweaked a little bit.

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Speaker 2: What's your sense of whether people will I mean, I

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Speaker 2: looked around various countries where we are a bit of

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Speaker 2: an outlier. Most people are above sixty five these days

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Speaker 2: the exception. I'm looking at Singapore and Germany. But apart

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Speaker 2: from that, what's your assessment of whether people get it

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Speaker 2: or you're in for a fight.

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Speaker 18: Well, I think people treasure New Zealand superannuation. Even people

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Speaker 18: who have their own retirement savings and are on good

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00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 18: incomes feel I think that they've paid tax their whole life.

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Speaker 18: They often haven't taken much from the government, but the

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Speaker 18: one thing that they're looking forward to is that superannuation

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Speaker 18: at age sixty five. Now, I don't think that it

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Speaker 18: is a terrible compromise to be able to say to

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00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 18: some people, well, look you are going to get it,

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Speaker 18: but you need to wait a bit longer. But we'll

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Speaker 18: need to weigh all of that up and be clear

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Speaker 18: about when that is and who that's going to affect.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it time, Nicolas Will this Finance minister

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Speaker 2: in for the Prime Minister this Monday morning. We think

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister we're sort of sorting something out probably

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Speaker 2: for Thursday morning, sixteen two.

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Speaker 1: The my asking breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks at be.

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Speaker 2: Just for the Record, thirteen away from eight. Just for

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00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: the record. I'm not obsessed about the particular piece of

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00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: road north of Auckland because it happens to be a

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00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: piece of road that I use. I'm obsessed about it

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00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: because it is emblematic of one of the many problems

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00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 2: as government faces, and that is the business of talking

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00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 2: a big game but not delivering it. And it just

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Speaker 2: strikes me as a very good example of something that's

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00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: not that hard to achieve, and yet look at how

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00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: hard it is to achieve and if they either do

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00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: one of two things, either do it or then stop

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Speaker 2: talking about doing it now. Retirement Australia sixty seven, Canada

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Speaker 2: sixty five, Denmark I told you earlier on voted over

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Speaker 2: the weekend they're going to seventy. France sixty two, but

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Speaker 2: they're weirdos sixty three in Germany, Ireland sixty six, the

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Speaker 2: UK sixty six, sixty two in Singapore but they're wealthy.

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Speaker 2: Switzerland sixty five, Japan sixty four, Netherlands sixty six, Luxemburg

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Speaker 2: sixty five. So it's a mixed bag. Thursday, we're going

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Speaker 2: to be having the reserve, thank governor fill in part time,

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00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: whatever they want to call him at the moment Christian Hawksby,

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00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 2: who will be delivering the day before the much anticipated

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00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: twenty five point cut to the cash rate. What will

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Speaker 2: be more important about what he does on Wednesday is

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00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: not just the twenty five points, because I think that's

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00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 2: baked in, as they say in financial circles, but what

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00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 2: he says about the economy as regards Trump, as regards trade,

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00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: as regards inflation, as regards jobs, and whether or not

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00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: he feels or says openly the need to go below

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00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: three percent for a neutral cash rate. In other words,

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Speaker 2: has it dropped back to two seven five or possibly

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00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: even two and a half because the recovery, such as

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00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 2: it is, is not quite as vibrant as they once

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00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: thought it would be. So that's all important. So that's

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Speaker 2: coming up on Wednesday, and he'll be appearing on the

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Speaker 2: program on Thursday. By the way, you'll notice I didn't

1148
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Speaker 2: ask Nichola willis what she wore on budget Day, And

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00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 2: it's one of those most unfortunate things that we still

1150
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: obsess about that sort of nonsense, and they follow it up.

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Speaker 2: Another media outlet followed it up yesterday. Chris Bishop, the

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Speaker 2: aforementioned was involved and he had a three Wise Men

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Speaker 2: shirt and a tie he had bought in France, and

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Speaker 2: he had got a soup from Half Had Men's Wear

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00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: and made by rem Brandt. And then Mike Butterick, who's

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Speaker 2: another MP, he got involved. He talked to Grant McCallum.

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Speaker 2: McCallum was wearing something from Work in Style and Rod

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Speaker 2: and Garnan. Then Carl Bates got involved and he's got

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Speaker 2: some Arim boots. What I didn't. The only reason I

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00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: raised this, The only reason I raised this is rim

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Speaker 2: Williams boots, which are good boots, but they're Australian boots.

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Speaker 2: Most of the leather comes from Wanganui. See I didn't

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Speaker 2: know that. And you wouldn't adjoined those dots automatically, would you.

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Speaker 2: But that's the sort of gold you get exclusively on

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Speaker 2: this program. Ten Away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover Villa News

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Speaker 1: togs Head Besiven.

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Speaker 2: Away from It not just our wine that wins international awards.

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Speaker 2: As it turns out, Bluff Distilleries London Dry Gin had

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Speaker 2: a very good day out of the Gin Guide Awards

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Speaker 2: in London five wins, including best Contemporary Gin over forty

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Speaker 2: two percent that's an alcohol, Best Australasian Gin, and Best Brand.

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Speaker 2: This follows a gold at the San Francisco Wild Spirits competition.

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Speaker 2: David Nash is the co founder of Bluff Distiller and

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Speaker 2: he's with us. David, Morning, Morning, Mike, How are you

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Speaker 2: very well? Indeed, what's the contemporary gin?

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Speaker 20: So it's over forty two percent ABD, so more than

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Speaker 20: modern styles, slightly gin that tastes like gin as we

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Speaker 20: like to call us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So how old your business?

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Speaker 20: The business itself, we launched publicly in March of last year,

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Speaker 20: so we're just over a year on the board, but

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Speaker 20: we've been sort of in development for about three years

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Speaker 20: prior to that.

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Speaker 2: And you come from drink or No, Yes.

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Speaker 20: So yeah, previously in the wine business. So my background's

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Speaker 20: on the branding side. Chris Fraser, who is our distiller,

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Speaker 20: who's based down in in Vericago, he's on the spirit

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Speaker 20: side of things. So yeah, it's a good combination of

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Speaker 20: branding and storytelling and then obviously having a great maker at.

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Speaker 6: The heart of it.

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Speaker 2: And is that part of that branding, that storytelling The Bluff.

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Speaker 20: Bit Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm sure we've been down

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Speaker 20: to Bluff for about four thousand people descended on it

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Speaker 20: just this weekend for the or It's defense of all.

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Speaker 20: You know, Bluff is an amazing place, just full of

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Speaker 20: incredible stories and a huge amount of talent as well.

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Speaker 20: And I think, you know, bringing the world back to

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Speaker 20: that story and back to that place is a huge

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Speaker 20: part of the Bluff Distillery story.

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Speaker 2: Gin seems to be a thing, is it? As in,

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Speaker 2: like everyone's into Gin, the whole world's awards Gin?

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Speaker 21: You know.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, No, GIN is a massive growth globally. I think

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Speaker 20: at the moment it's about a sixteen billion dollar business

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00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 20: and the projecting that to be closer to thirty by

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Speaker 20: about twenty thirty, with you know, Europe and North America

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Speaker 20: being the big growth markets at the moment, but Asia

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Speaker 20: Pacific's really catching up. So it's a huge opportunity internationally.

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Speaker 2: Why are they coming from another drink or is it

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Speaker 2: just I've never tried it, let's have a crack.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Absolutely, I think the premieritization across you know, all alcohol

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00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 20: categories is really making a big play.

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Speaker 13: And obviously, you know, GEN is.

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Speaker 20: A great based for lots of premium cocktails. But then

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Speaker 20: I think also, you know, people are looking for you know,

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Speaker 20: those more kind of artisan boutique products to have at home.

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Speaker 20: And we've all heard the kind of rhetoric of drinking

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00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 20: less but drinking better. You know, people want a great

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Speaker 20: product that's got some providence and the Bluff story definitely

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Speaker 20: fits into that.

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Speaker 2: And is winning awards worth something? I mean then, was

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Speaker 2: it like everyone's got awards and there's a million of them.

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Speaker 20: Winning the right awards? I mean definitely for us, we

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Speaker 20: want to get some attention internationally and take the brand

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Speaker 20: offshore and attract the right partners.

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Speaker 17: To do that.

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Speaker 20: So getting those awards and getting the validation of those

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00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 20: international judges, as you touched on, we picked up Gold

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Speaker 20: at San Francisco, which is a really really old show

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Speaker 20: with great judging panels, and definitely the gin guides got

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Speaker 20: probably the best of the best from the UK, so

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Speaker 20: you're getting a kind of consistent scoring across all those

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Speaker 20: international markets.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, Well, congratulations, go well with that. David Nash, who's

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Speaker 2: the co founder and brand directorate to Bluff Distillery, Mike

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00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: read the superage. It doesn't matter comparing age with another country.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to happen because it's an election loser.

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00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: Well that's why I raised it just before seven thirty

1241
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: and Nickela with us, is it or have we moved on?

1242
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 5: Is it?

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00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: One of those debates Dunton thought nuclear was a win

1244
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: until it wasn't. Or Dunton thought we could bring people

1245
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: back to the office until he found out he couldn't.

1246
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 2: So the National Party buying themselves in trouble. Will Winston

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00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: Clete a saving because of course I think that that's

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00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: a bottom line for somebody you like Winston Clets is them.

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00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: But it's a fascinating debate, isn't it. Now Sport, let's

1250
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: get into it in the commentary boxes Monday morning, Andrew

1251
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: Sail and Jason Pine After the News, which is next

1252
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: the News?

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Speaker 21: Storkerson, Mazarnie setting the agenda and talking the big issues,

1254
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 21: the Mic coking, Breakfast with a Vita, retirement, communities, Life

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Speaker 21: your Way, News, Togs dead Best.

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Speaker 22: That's the Crusaders who come out on top, but it's

1257
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 22: the scoreline who shows there. The victor's final support difference

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01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 22: ris Church fifteen points to twelve.

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Speaker 15: The referee says that will do a try at a

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01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 15: sixty fifth minute that it's gotten the Hurricanes home here

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Speaker 15: by thirty one points to a twenty seven.

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Speaker 6: You don't need a Conmerican that is going to make

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01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 6: it eighty five points to seven eighty minutes gone. Hee try,

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Speaker 6: there's just too many cries on my sheep to go.

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Speaker 5: Through and name them all. No tree have trash the party.

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Speaker 14: All on the FC's remarkable record breaking first season.

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Speaker 15: One Loock have a grand finale and the Raiders a

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Speaker 15: Danets that come to Hauntan and they busted the Warrior's

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01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 15: home record in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike Husking breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Oh Atamen has passed eight. We're tracking down sav at

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01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: the moment. If you how hard can it be?

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Speaker 17: Save?

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01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: I mean, for goodness sake, can you listening to the

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Speaker 2: radio going a won or somebody hasn't rung me? Just

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01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: answer your phone? Sa Jason Pine is, of course because

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Speaker 2: he's a professional on time set to go. Jason, good morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike. Can I ask you the very simple question,

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Speaker 2: were Melbourne the side for the occasion so in other words,

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01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: they when you need to win, you have to win,

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01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 2: you want to win, you go and do it, as

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01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: opposed to wouldn't it be great to win? And it's

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Speaker 2: our first season, so we'll fall over.

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01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's possible. They do have big game experience Melbourne Victory,

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01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 14: but Autond FC have been very good this season. I'm

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01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 14: not sure that an experience comes into a market. Just

1289
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 14: think Melbourne Victory were better on Saturday night. They came

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Speaker 14: with a plan, they reachink their formation, they got it.

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01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 14: Auckland f C a little bit. I think Auckland kind

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Speaker 14: of got caught a little bit between should we go

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Speaker 14: for it and try and get another goal or should

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01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 14: we sit on what we have and try and see

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Speaker 14: this out, because they knew if they weren't, if they

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Speaker 14: didn't concede, they'd make the Grand Final. Once Melbourne got

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Speaker 14: their first goal, it kind of yeah, it just always

1298
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 14: felt like the momentum of the game was with with them.

1299
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Speaker 14: There was the disallowed goal, which of course was the

1300
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 14: big talking point of the whole thing. But yeah, I

1301
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 14: think if you look back on it, you say, well,

1302
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 14: Melbourne Victory were the better side and probably deserve to

1303
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 14: go through.

1304
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: Yes, they did. And but here's the point. If Auckland

1305
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: FC hadn't been so dominant during the season, you could

1306
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,439
Speaker 2: have had that argument, right. So if that scrape didn't

1307
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 2: just won the plate and it was a tight competition,

1308
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 2: fantastic and you just don't know who's going to win.

1309
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: All they did all year was win until they needed

1310
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: to when they didn't.

1311
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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a good point and it shows you know

1312
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 14: that you know you can be the best team all season,

1313
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 14: but you don't necessarily win the big prize at the

1314
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 14: end of it. Melbourne Victory were fifth in the regular

1315
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 14: season and here they are in the Grand Final and

1316
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 14: Aukan FC, as you say, so dominant. We'll have to

1317
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 14: watch with the rest of us if they can bring

1318
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 14: themselves to do that. So, yeah, it was a shame.

1319
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 14: It was a great I mean that the occasion was

1320
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 14: all set up and Melbourne Victory just crashed the party.

1321
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Speaker 2: Of nice of you to join us, Savy.

1322
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 15: A few things on and I'm sorry the and your

1323
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 15: your number one rating brick for show just dropped a

1324
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 15: couple of pigs this morning, Sorr about that?

1325
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: What have you got some domestics on you brushing the

1326
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 2: kid's teeth or you're making them a nice.

1327
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 5: Done all that, and actually shifted house in the middle

1328
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 5: of last week.

1329
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: Is Kaying still booting you out? Have you not learned

1330
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: any of your listens? How many kayane or a house?

1331
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 2: Has you been booted out? It's that your second or third?

1332
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 2: For goodness sake? Have you traded up? Have you got

1333
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,479
Speaker 2: some indoor outdoor flow?

1334
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 6: Yes?

1335
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, good nice native bush but of a

1336
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 5: bit of shrubbery.

1337
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: You're selling it beautifully, Sam, Not not.

1338
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 5: Quite you know, not quite many Jeremy Clarks and like yourself.

1339
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 2: But but but you would you call it a lifestyle

1340
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:52,919
Speaker 2: block or just a yard?

1341
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 8: Wouldn't?

1342
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 5: I'd call it a half block a half block?

1343
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: Okay? And have you got a view?

1344
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 5: I've got a view of the garden.

1345
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: Is it a nice garden?

1346
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 5: It is?

1347
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah?

1348
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: There you go? Oh nice? And did the moving go well?

1349
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 5: It went very well? Yes? Yes, yes?

1350
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: Did you take time off work to move?

1351
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 5: I took it.

1352
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 15: Yeah, I took time off work two and although I

1353
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 15: paid the movers by the air and.

1354
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 5: It was like watching the Fox Glacier times. Anyway, I'll

1355
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 5: leave it at that.

1356
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 2: Fair enough. Hey, did you did you see the f

1357
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: one this morning? If you're not got your teley plugged in.

1358
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 5: You I'm sorting out. I'm still sorting out the WiFi

1359
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 5: for theation.

1360
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: I'll be there in July. It was a fantastic It

1361
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: was a fantastic watch the Montaka the Monaco because the

1362
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: pit strategy of the racing balls was phenomenal and Lawson

1363
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: paid the price, but he willingly paid the price and

1364
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: they scored big points. Hed you did well, Lawson did well.

1365
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: It's best ever.

1366
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 15: They've sort of missed up the strategy sometimes, haven't they

1367
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 15: This season? Racing balls and did they had to have

1368
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 15: two compulsory stops.

1369
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: That was the new rule. Yeah, you try and make

1370
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: it spicy, which it didn't in the end, but they've

1371
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: tried because the cars are too big and the track's

1372
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 2: too small and you can't overtake, and the whole thing's

1373
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: a problem.

1374
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 5: It's an amazing it's still an amazing trick.

1375
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful I was looking at it over the

1376
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: weekend and I thought, do they really want it? Because

1377
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: the previous week in Italy Amelia Romana. They're probably not

1378
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: going back there. But I thought, do they really want

1379
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: to lose Monica? And I think they don't want to.

1380
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how sort of weird it gets as

1381
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,919
Speaker 2: a race. The rest of it, the Frescent is worth

1382
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 2: its weight.

1383
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 15: In gold, and the pinpoint accuracy of those drivers beside

1384
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 15: the barriers at two fifty k plus an hour is

1385
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 15: quite extraordinary.

1386
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: A lot of it can go wrong. Tell you what, Sam,

1387
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: you go put the kettle on if you can find it,

1388
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: and we'll come back with some more sports. Chet just

1389
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 2: a couple of moments their team passed eight.

1390
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast of All Show podcast on iHeartRadio

1391
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: car it by NEWSTALKSIP.

1392
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: News talks me sixteen past eight.

1393
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike Husking Breakfast

1394
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

1395
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: over fifty years.

1396
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: Do you want to fun fact? Jason? Yes, In the

1397
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventeen years of the NRL, only two

1398
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 2: sides have ever been premiers. Reigning premiers have only ever

1399
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: been the bottom of the table at this point of

1400
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: the season.

1401
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 14: Incredible, what's happened to Penrith And Yeah, I'm sure their

1402
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 14: fan bases at a loss to understand it just did

1403
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 14: just a complete drop off. It is a very close

1404
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 14: NRL competition this year, which is you know, normally it's

1405
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 14: Penrith Melbourne Storm and then a big gap back to

1406
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 14: the rest. But even the Storm this year have been

1407
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 14: a little bit off the pace. Warriors last night, Look,

1408
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 14: I was looking forward to, you know, after the disappointment

1409
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 14: of Mount Smart on Saturday night, I was looking forward

1410
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 14: to the Warriors getting some Vegas ravine.

1411
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: Look good for them.

1412
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 14: Yeah they did, they did. I think they did. Miss

1413
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 14: Barnett and Fisher Harris. You know, when it's wet, you've

1414
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 14: got to go up the middle. It's physical. They trying

1415
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 14: to go around the outside of it too much and

1416
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 14: it just wasn't the night for it, I don't think. Look,

1417
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 14: you know, compare it to Vegas and they have clearly improved,

1418
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 14: but it's not a hammer blow. I mean they're still

1419
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 14: on the top, well.

1420
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 6: In the top.

1421
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 2: I have them. Second. I mean people forget that the

1422
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: Raiders have played one more than us, so they technically

1423
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 2: above on the ladder. But if you played one more,

1424
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: that doesn't count. So we're still sickond.

1425
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 5: The Raiders are a good team, but yeah, one of

1426
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 5: the best Raiders teams of recent years.

1427
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are but the problem, said is that you've

1428
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: got to win the ones that really count, don't you,

1429
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: And I don't think we're there is the problem. I

1430
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: worry in week twenty three we're going to play the

1431
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 2: Bulldogs and that'll be an interesting contest.

1432
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 15: I think Penrith suffered in a little of the bit

1433
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 15: of the Crusaders from last year. Everyone expected them to

1434
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 15: come right. No one really still wants to play them,

1435
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 15: but they just haven't come right.

1436
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:58,439
Speaker 6: Have They.

1437
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 15: Lost a lot of players last three or four years

1438
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 15: and a huge junior talent in that Penrith club and

1439
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 15: the players have been slowly but surely picked off by

1440
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 15: other clubs.

1441
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 5: So I think that's the.

1442
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 15: Pain of success after all those years, is losing a

1443
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 15: lot of these players. A bit of a sobering weekend, really,

1444
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 15: wasn't it all? Losing Mowana got spanked by the chief.

1445
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 2: Said about explaining that how can you be so good

1446
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: one week and so useful?

1447
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 15: Look, as we discussed pretty much every week on the show,

1448
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 15: Sport at that level was a lot about the mental focus,

1449
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 15: the subconscious. They lifted immensely for the Blues. There was

1450
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 15: huge motivation to beat the Blues. There was some stuff

1451
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 15: said online offline between the teams, especially from one team,

1452
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 15: So there was a big motivation to lift and then

1453
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 15: to try to do that again and sort of almost

1454
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 15: manufacture that motivation.

1455
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 5: It's hard to do.

1456
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: Who's the guy who was kicking Jason for the Highlanders

1457
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: at the end. I mean, first question, how did the

1458
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 2: Crusaders let Highlanders get that close? For goodness sake? And

1459
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: then next the kick I could have got that. The

1460
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: Islanders lose exactly, I could have got that kick.

1461
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 14: I've been so disappointed with the Highlanders. I thought Jamie

1462
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 14: Joseph coming into you know, to again be head coach

1463
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 14: from that director of rugby roll last year. I thought

1464
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 14: he would add some real steel to that team and

1465
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 14: has a time they got close to the Hurricanes, close

1466
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 14: to the Crusaders. Water should have could have? You know,

1467
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 14: they they are the Warriors from last year. They're not

1468
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 14: winning the tight ones and they're eleventh on an eleven team.

1469
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 15: Yeah, they've lost ten I think the status they've lost

1470
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 15: ten and seven of those by within a converted tribe.

1471
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 15: Talk about frustrating though in close calls. But they should

1472
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 15: have beaten the Crusaders full stop.

1473
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: Yes they should. The club rugby we were talking to

1474
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 2: Andrew Whore about earlier on in the program, and do

1475
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 2: we need yet more Rugby World Club competition?

1476
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 5: I think it would be in mildly interesting, I don't

1477
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 5: just interesting. Well where they going to fit it in?

1478
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 2: So that's what I said, and he gave me some answer,

1479
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 2: and it was we move this here and we'll pop

1480
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 2: it in after the.

1481
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 15: WHI whilst playing at the Champions Cup in Europe, because

1482
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 15: everywhere is a half our flight away right or in

1483
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 15: our flight away, but we're talking other side of the

1484
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 15: world logistics and travel.

1485
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 5: I just I don't know how it's going to work anyway.

1486
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: No, I do worry about it. What about flag football, Jason?

1487
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: Flag football is going to be included in the twenty

1488
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 2: twenty eight Olympics, and this is the American football with

1489
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 2: a flag, you know, like with a little tag.

1490
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,879
Speaker 5: And I see the leading NFL players, then they're leading.

1491
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: NFL players play one per team. So does that make

1492
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 2: it suddenly more interesting or is it just a stupid

1493
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 2: game of recreational sport on a beach that shouldn't be

1494
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 2: at the Olympics.

1495
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 14: Maybe the second of those things.

1496
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 5: I think I don't know that it makes it that interesting.

1497
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 14: Yeah, there seems to be a rush by a lot

1498
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 14: of sports to find their T twenty you know, three

1499
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 14: x three basketball, I mean seven's rugby was the first one.

1500
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 14: This is another example of it.

1501
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 5: Look they're going to the US market, aren't they. That

1502
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 5: flag football's played.

1503
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 2: By Yeah, just because recreational pursuit, but just because kids

1504
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 2: play stuff. I mean they play you know, hopscotches. Making

1505
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: the Olympics sport to end. Yeah, it's ridiculous. I couldn't

1506
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 2: agree more. Christ what do you mean he's scott in

1507
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: He crashed. He didn't even start the race, Jason, I know,

1508
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 2: but I just.

1509
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 14: Feel like like the Brickyards almost cursed for him. He

1510
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 14: was on pole last year, you know, dropped back this time,

1511
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 14: didn't even get to the green flag. I heard him

1512
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 14: this morning afterwards. He just sounded absolutely distraught, as.

1513
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 2: You want he should be. And that's before you that's

1514
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: before you get to the team he's and then the

1515
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 2: bloke who owns them and all the spare parts they meant,

1516
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 2: you know, doing dodgy stuff without the back. Not a

1517
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 2: great Djokovic won is one hundredth though that had make

1518
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 2: him the greatest of all time on.

1519
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 15: It seth well here he'll go part I think Fitter

1520
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 15: is one O three Jimmy Connors one O nine, so

1521
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 15: he'll probably go past both.

1522
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: Do you love him now?

1523
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 8: No?

1524
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: Okay, did they break anything?

1525
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 15: I can't find my Jogovich framed poster in the movie

1526
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 15: either anything broken someone else?

1527
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 5: Someone else has organized the pantry. It may look great,

1528
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 5: but there's no rhythm and.

1529
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 8: Flow to it. You get me, I do get you know.

1530
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, the breed's up too high.

1531
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 2: Take another day off work and go sort that out.

1532
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: Nice to see Nice to see you, guys. Andrew Cvil

1533
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 2: Jason pie In eight twenty.

1534
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: Two the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate news talks.

1535
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 2: They'd be now Bailey's real estate more than just property. Obviously,

1536
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: it's a total real estate solution. Got the family homes covered,

1537
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 2: the beachside retreats, the commercial properties, industrial offerings, farm at stations,

1538
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 2: rural businesses. They are your well, they got your real

1539
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: estate needs covered. Do Bailey's and their team of more

1540
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: than two thousand professionals. They've got one hundred officers nationwide.

1541
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: They work in partnership, meaning that you get the benefit

1542
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 2: of collective expertise, international networks of course they achieve altogether

1543
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 2: better results. People at the beating heart of bey thing

1544
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 2: they do. And it's always the magic key, isn't it. People.

1545
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 2: If you look after the people, they'll look after you.

1546
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 2: Baileyes have built a legacy of adding value, consistently giving

1547
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: their clients the cutting edge in a competitive marketplace. Proud

1548
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 2: to be one hundred percent Q we going to and operated,

1549
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 2: unbeatable local knowledge. Presence in every corner of the country

1550
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: because a friendly face in the old firm handshake, that's

1551
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 2: still the best way to do business. So through a

1552
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: comprehensive range of services, strategic international partnerships if you need them,

1553
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 2: Bailees finds the buyers that others can't. Licensed under the

1554
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: Area Act of two thousand and eight. You go to

1555
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: Baileys dot co dot nz to learn more the best

1556
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: of the best Bailey's dot co dot n Z. Paskame

1557
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 2: I noticed the New Zealand geographic board mucked around for

1558
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: ages and Russell's still going to be called Russell. It

1559
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 2: could have been called coorro Rareca, or it could have

1560
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 2: been called coorro Rareca Russell or Russell coorro Rareca. But

1561
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 2: it wasn't isn't. And what I also note with the

1562
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 2: great deal of interest is that first of all, this

1563
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: is just a gargantuan waste of time having a geographic

1564
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 2: board that spends lord knows how long investigating this, and

1565
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 2: then they couldn't really make up their mind as to

1566
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: what it could be. And if it gets a bit contentious,

1567
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: then they sent it to the minister. When they sent

1568
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 2: it to a minister, the minister was Damian O'Connor, and

1569
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 2: you'll go, well, hold on, wasn't he in a previous government?

1570
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 2: Yes he was. And once Damian O'Connor got that in

1571
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 2: front of him, what did he do with it? Answer

1572
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 2: was nothing, didn't do anything with it. Probably felt oh

1573
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 2: it's a bit contentious. Don't want to make a decision.

1574
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 2: So they waited till the new government came along and

1575
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: mister pink is the new Land Information Minister, and he said,

1576
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 2: I know what I'm going to call it, and I

1577
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: call it Russell. So he wins an hour book news

1578
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: for you. In a couple of moments here on the

1579
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: make Hosking Breakfast the News Talk set.

1580
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 1: B the Breakfast Show, Kiwi's trust to stay in the know.

1581
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed

1582
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: to intrigue and use talks dead be.

1583
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 2: If you were with a couple of hours ago. Andrew

1584
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 2: mentioned it briefly that he didn't cover off. This is

1585
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 2: the retail sales which were always looking for good positive

1586
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 2: information around the New Zealand economy. Retail sales thirty billion,

1587
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 2: up one point four percent. This is the lake number

1588
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: for the March quarter, so this is gen Febron March

1589
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: Pharmaceutical Other store based retailing is up three point seven percent.

1590
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: Motor vehicle parts relating as well as clothing, footwhere and

1591
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 2: personal accessories up three point one and three point two.

1592
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 2: Accommodation up two point nine. Liquor the biggest drop at

1593
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 2: six point five down. Retail industry. Eleven of the fifteen

1594
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 2: categories are up, so this is the word. We're all

1595
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 2: in the doldrums, not so regionally speaking, and this is

1596
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 2: a really interesting thing. Once again. The South Island leads obviously,

1597
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 2: but all sixteen regions around the country had retail sales

1598
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 2: values go up. South Island increase two point seven, North

1599
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 2: Island one point seven, Auckland one point nine, Canterbury two

1600
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 2: point four Wellington two point five biggest growth on the

1601
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 2: coast and in Nelson up over five percent. Take that

1602
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 2: all day long, twenty two to nine.

1603
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

1604
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

1605
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 2: Rightly we goes to for Rice. Very good morning to you.

1606
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 6: Good no doubt.

1607
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: Now when we last talked about it, of course there

1608
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: was divorced time. And now where are we out with

1609
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: the Libs and the Nats.

1610
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 6: Well, it split lasted not overnight really, I mean two

1611
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 6: or three days and they were back together. They had

1612
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 6: to do that. The Liberal Party were just floating along them,

1613
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 6: were about to disappear and without their coalition partners, the Nats,

1614
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 6: they're nothing. So they're back together and the new Liberal leader,

1615
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 6: Susan Lee, will probably announce her shadow cabinet this week.

1616
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 6: Now that obviously is going to be minus Peter Dutton

1617
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 6: who lost his seat. And so this is a battle

1618
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 6: between the Conservatives which were aligned to Peter Dutton and

1619
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 6: the Moderates which are aligned to Susan Lee. So we'll

1620
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 6: see who gets punished and who doesn't. There's going to

1621
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 6: be a mix. You would think the Nats must have

1622
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 6: extracted you would reckon Micah Price out of negotiating to

1623
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 6: get the coalition back together. So it'd be interesting to

1624
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 6: see what front bench seats say get The recriminations on

1625
01:16:55,960 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 6: the election loss continues during Australian at the weekend, seeing

1626
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 6: that the President of the Liberal Party, John Olson, actually

1627
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 6: went to Andrew Hurst, who was running the Liberals campaign

1628
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 6: on election night and said, hang on a minute. You

1629
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 6: told me three days ago that the swing was on,

1630
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,560
Speaker 6: that Peter Dutton was safe in his own seat, and

1631
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:18,799
Speaker 6: that we were going to pick up ten labor seats.

1632
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 6: What the hell happened? So clearly the campaign and the

1633
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 6: polling in particular just fell over and it was hopeless.

1634
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 6: I should point out the Melbourn seed of Goldstein, even

1635
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 6: though a blow called Tim Wilsoner used to hold it

1636
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 6: then he lost it to a heel. He looks like

1637
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 6: getting that back, but she won't concede. He's in front

1638
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 6: well since finished.

1639
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 2: But see here's the why doesn't she hear to the rules?

1640
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 2: Because I was following this with a great deal of

1641
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 2: interest on Friday because it kept moving. At one point

1642
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 2: it was down to seven votes and I thought, anyway,

1643
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 2: so he's got it by two sixty and the rules

1644
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 2: are if it's one hundred or less, it's a recount.

1645
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: Fair enough, it's too sixty, that's not one hundred or less,

1646
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 2: she loses.

1647
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 6: Yep, And the AECED has shown the Electric Commission will

1648
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 6: be the one to make that decision. They'll make that

1649
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 6: decision quite quickly. She's going to look pretty silly if

1650
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 6: they say, well, bad luck, he's got enough votes in front,

1651
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 6: didn't continue to hold the seat. You can just bad luck.

1652
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 6: She's obviously suggesting. And you know, it's almost actionable for

1653
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 6: Tim Wilson. She's trying to suggest someone's cheating and that

1654
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 6: some of these votes have been incorrectly counted. So the

1655
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 6: scrutiny is will have to go back over it. But

1656
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 6: I don't think there'll be a recount.

1657
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 2: He'll to be fair and once again, and watching it Friday,

1658
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 2: I did think to myself because the way the votes

1659
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 2: moved and the preferences and stuff like that. One, it's

1660
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 2: a complicated system too. It seems to take a ridiculous

1661
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 2: amount of time. I mean, this was weeks ago the election.

1662
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, and these votes that you're talking of are mainly

1663
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 6: postal votes, people who live in that area, who travel

1664
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 6: I mean, these could be votes in an envelope that

1665
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 6: have been sent from London or somewhere in Europe where

1666
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 6: there's a voting booth open for Austrainers to vote, and

1667
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 6: not in the country. That's why it takes so long.

1668
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 6: But it's a crazy system, and ever going to reform it.

1669
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 6: No one's going to put their hand up and say,

1670
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 6: let's get rid of preferential burning, let's go first buster hosts.

1671
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 6: They should do that, but it won't happen.

1672
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: As well as I know Melbourne, I thought I knew it, well,

1673
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: where's the shopping center? I couldn't work out where it

1674
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 2: was put.

1675
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 6: Northland is in the northern suburbs. Westfield has a shopping

1676
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 6: center called Chadston, has got one called Southland. That's got

1677
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 6: one called north Land. Now, apparently yesterday two gangs of

1678
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 6: young males decided that they would gather in the food

1679
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 6: court and take each other on armed with machetes. The

1680
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:36,839
Speaker 6: shopping center went into excuse me, into lockdown. Security shutters

1681
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 6: down on most of the retail stores as these bloats

1682
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 6: ran around wielding these long, sharp edged machete knives. There

1683
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 6: was a ten person brawl. One of them was a

1684
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 6: fifteen year old boy. The police Superintendent Kelly Lawson said

1685
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 6: it was a planned to meet up between opposing groups

1686
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 6: to have a fight. Now, the reason I raised this

1687
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 6: and no one wi to see that happen. The state

1688
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 6: government has decided to ban the sale of machetes. Now,

1689
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 6: they put that through in legislation about a month ago,

1690
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 6: but it takes until September until this becomes law. So

1691
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 6: if you're a machetee shop seller, like you know, a

1692
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 6: Night to ten or something, you don't have to take

1693
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 6: these things off the shelf until September. I just don't

1694
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 6: understand the delay. And when you see fifteen year olds

1695
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 6: running around trying to kill each other, you would think

1696
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 6: we could perhaps bring the machete ban forward to look

1697
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 6: quicker than what it is.

1698
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: Is there outrage when that sort of thing happens. Because

1699
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: you've talked many times before about Melbourne Victoria generally being

1700
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 2: a problem crime wise. I mean when the sort of

1701
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 2: madness happens to people go nuts.

1702
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 6: Well, the people in the shopping center do, but the

1703
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,719
Speaker 6: rest of the community seems to get on with life.

1704
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 6: But I mean it is very confronting. I mean, you've

1705
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 6: seen that TV vision of the boat running down Chapel

1706
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 6: Street and near where I will live, and I'm in

1707
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 6: the city with a machete. I mean, it only takes

1708
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 6: you to look someone in the either wrong way or

1709
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 6: in my case, be stupid enough to make a verbal remark,

1710
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 6: you get your arm chopped off.

1711
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 2: Unreal. Hey, the flooding in New South Wales and just

1712
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 2: reading over the weekend, the one particular person thirty five

1713
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: thousand dollars after last time they said, sure, if you

1714
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 2: want to ensure your place, that'll be thirty five thousand

1715
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: dollars premium. So of course obviously they can't afford it,

1716
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 2: so they're not getting This has become seemingly a real issue,

1717
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 2: hasn't it.

1718
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 6: It has, And you know we had the twenty twenty

1719
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 6: one floods in lis War, which was further north. This

1720
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 6: time it was Tari. The amount of water that came

1721
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 6: down places like the Mounting River was extraordinary and people

1722
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 6: simply can't afford to ensure. And so when you get

1723
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 6: all that water through your shop, in particular a retail shop.

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Speaker 6: There was pictures of the people in Tarre on Friday

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01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 6: that basically they had to empty all of the stock

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Speaker 6: in their shop. Think about a little retailer, I don't

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01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 6: know what selling whatever. They had to empty all of

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01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 6: their stock out on the street, everything spoiled, and then

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Speaker 6: they had to start sweeping with broom mud out of

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Speaker 6: their store. That's all of that stuff could be worth

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01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 6: undred grand. They've gone and you can't and you can't

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Speaker 6: claim it on the train.

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Speaker 2: But you can kind of trap though, aren't you, Because

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Speaker 2: if you're in a flood prone area and you can't

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Speaker 2: ensure yourself and you know it's going to happen again,

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Speaker 2: what do you do?

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Speaker 6: Nothing you can do, And that insurance question. Obviously, the

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01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 6: insurance companies then spread the load around, so everybody in

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01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 6: Australia's insurance all of a sudden goes up.

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Speaker 2: Are we happy about Oscar? I thought Oscar. Oscar gave

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01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,799
Speaker 2: me the vibe, not this weekend but generally that he's

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01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 2: going all the way. But you got pipped this morning

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Speaker 2: by his mate.

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Speaker 6: Well he started third, started third and finished third. I mean,

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Speaker 6: Monaco is a beautiful place to watch F one on

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01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:47,759
Speaker 6: television because it's so spectacular, but it's a dreadful racetrack

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01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 6: because no one can pass anybody. So the two McLaren's

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01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 6: with the quickest car separated by one Ferrari. Nice to

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01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 6: see Liam Lawson get some points, exactly, but it's not

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01:22:58,280 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 6: one of those races that you sit and watch them

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01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 6: that someone's going to come from fourth and win the row.

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01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 6: Max was stepping a bit, the most frustrated bloke on

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Speaker 6: the planets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, all right, mate, go wend go well see Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it very much. Let me come back on the

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Speaker 2: flooding because I read a very interesting piece over the

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Speaker 2: weekend about climate change and how quickly they attributed that

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Speaker 2: particular food to climate change. But more shortly a forty

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Speaker 2: five the.

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Speaker 1: High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 2: Be Morning MANE what happened to Sonoda? He got run

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01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 2: into by Pierre Gazly Ghasly Rector's car completely. Sonoda, I'm

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01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 2: assuming was affected. He didn't appear to be overtly affected.

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01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: I mean Gasly's wheel fell off. So that's a fairly

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01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 2: obvious clue that things haven't gone well. But things didn't

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01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 2: look that badly for Sonoda. But he came seventick to

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01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 2: whatever it was. So the racing bulls hasn't hadro and

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01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 2: Lawson did extremely well. Now look up this article as

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01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 2: well worth reading. The New South Wales floods have already

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01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 2: been linked to climate change. Scientists are debating if that's

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01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 2: too quick, that's your headline. Even before the floods peaked

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01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 2: on the mid North coast of New South Wales last week,

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Speaker 2: the first scientific analysts linking the event to climate change

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01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 2: hit the web climber Meter. It's a rapid attribution study.

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01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 2: They did this rapid attribution study overnight Thursday. They found

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Speaker 2: the New South Wales floods, especially around tai the aforementioned,

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01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 2: were significantly worsened by human driven climate change. That was

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01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 2: the claim they made. The thing had only been going

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01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 2: a day and suddenly it was climate change and they

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01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: could say now. Climber Meter is funded by the European

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01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 2: Union also the French National Center for Scientific Research, and

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Speaker 2: is one of the leading proponents internationally of rapid attribution studies,

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Speaker 2: which seek to provide a more timely explanation of the

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01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 2: link between specific extreme weather events and global warming. Now

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Speaker 2: the article goes on, and what's really interesting about the

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01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 2: article in this day and age of media that you

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01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 2: can't really trust, is even the scientists involved in the

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01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 2: business are deeply divided as to whether or not you

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01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 2: can actually make such a claim. Now, these climber meet

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01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: a people. There's a couple of them out there who

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01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 2: do this sort of work. They claim they've got a model.

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01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,799
Speaker 2: You just plug in the current data from whatever specific

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01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 2: event you've got into the model and it will tell

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01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 2: you whether or not it's a climate related event. Now,

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01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 2: obviously you go into the business as the model solid.

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01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 2: They argue, yes, it is, and therefore they're accurate. Others,

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01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 2: and these are scientists in the business of studying whether

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01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 2: in climate change, say, we're not convinced. So even the

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Speaker 2: scientists are not convinced that what is being said is true.

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01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: And of course, if you're looking at it its value

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01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 2: in an overarching argument, if you're a skeptical already, and

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01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 2: I think increasingly people are, I don't think many people

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01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 2: argue these days that climate change is real. It's always

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01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 2: been real. The climate constantly changes. The argument is is

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01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 2: how much of the human impact is a part of it?

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01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: And are we able to now scientifically beyond reasonable doubt

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01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 2: say that within a twenty four hour period of a

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Speaker 2: weather event, Oh that's climate change, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: And even when the scientists say I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: That's where you've reached an interesting point where all you're

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Speaker 2: going to do is get The people who are skeptical

1813
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 2: are going to become even more skeptical, and the people

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Speaker 2: who perhaps weren't that skeptical in the first place suddenly

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Speaker 2: are so another word, you start losing the debate. Nine

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Speaker 2: away from nine the.

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Speaker 2: boots in thank Gold. That was my fun fact in

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Speaker 2: the morning that I didn't realize arm Williams boots, which

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Speaker 2: in Australia. The leather is finished in Wanganui, of all

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Speaker 2: places in Glenn and I are discussing whether or not

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Speaker 2: the tannery's mistake trick by going, well we've got the

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Speaker 2: finished leather, why don't we make the boots? Whether Arian

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Speaker 2: Williams doesn't go why are we finishing the leather? And Wogan,

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Speaker 2: why an't we finishing the leather here in Adelaide? Such

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Speaker 2: as the mystery of business and why don't we spend

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Speaker 2: some money and get twenty percent off? After last Thursday?

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Speaker 2: There's another question five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Warehouse Mayhem Megasale on now right.

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Speaker 2: So Monaco Lawson gets his first points, which is fantastic.

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01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 2: He finished eighth, started ninth. They thought they might be

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01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 2: a little bit more, but they didn't exercise it. But

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01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 2: they felt positive about the cow. So that's good, fabulous strategy.

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01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 2: If you haven't watched the race, watched the race as well,

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01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 2: worth watching just for the strategy. Had you was faster

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01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 2: higher up, so Liam's job was to deliberately slow the

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01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 2: pack down so that hedger when he pitted, because it

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01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 2: was a two pit strategy, when he pitted, wouldn't lose position.

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01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 2: So here's Liam post race.

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Speaker 19: You were the first team that pulled that trigger and

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01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 19: you began to back it up, back it up, Isaac

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01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,759
Speaker 19: got those two free pit stocks. Take us into the cockpit,

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01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 19: take us into how you managed to do that while

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01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 19: not making a mistake yourself and not being overtaken. I

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01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 19: know it's hard here talk us through that.

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01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about.

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01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 8: I was flat out.

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Speaker 22: No, it's great, it's not. And you have a plan

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01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 22: and it executes perfectly and today to have done that

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01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 22: is great.

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01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 2: There you go. So the point being to slow the

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01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 2: field down. You're dealing with tents of a second. But

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01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 2: when you're used to going flat out, it is hitting

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01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 2: your apexes and lines and stuff is hard work.

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Speaker 5: How do you absolve the pressure from behind it?

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01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 22: It's so different. It's we've all obviously seen Center, you

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01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 22: know when he drove here and he backed off and

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01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 22: he crashed, and it's something that honestly, when you're not

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01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 22: flat out, it's really difficult.

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01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 2: Like for me, it was trying to keep concentration.

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Speaker 22: Your brain goes off in random places and it's actually

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Speaker 22: quite difficult.

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Speaker 2: And so it's on to Spain as part of the

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01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 2: triple head that they started and literally went to Monaco

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01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 2: and they're off to Spain now. So this is the

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Speaker 2: European start of the season. So at last he's got

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01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 2: some points. At last he feels comfortable in the car.

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Speaker 2: Hedge is good. He's good. They've got points as a

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01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 2: midfield side. That's encouraging. Sonoda finish now where Max is

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01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:09,719
Speaker 2: still struggling, And so goes the F one season back tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Libby Weavers back, which I'm looking forward to. Heaven's

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Speaker 2: ahead over on the program for a couple of years,

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Speaker 2: so we'll get her in the studio after right and

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Speaker 2: talk about health and nutrition, all the usual stuff we

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Speaker 2: love talking about. But until then, as always, happy days.

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Speaker 9: down the road.

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