1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: But we just had Nicola Willis, the Finance Minister, on 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: the program telling us that she is beefing up Keywi Bank, 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: allowing five hundred million dollars of extra capital into Kiwi 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Bank to try and bolster it, to try and make 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: it more competitive against the Australian owned banks and hopefully 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: increase competition in the sector, thereby reducing prices for us. 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: Does that sound like a pipe dream? Let's go to 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: Shane Solely Harborrestic Management, Shane good evening. 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Ryan, how are you good? Thank you? 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: Is this plan going to work? 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: Look? 12 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: I think it's it's a start, right, There's a long 13 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: way to go with this business. Certainly injecting another five 14 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: hundred million into the business provised with a better competitive 15 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: start point with Australian banks. I think importantly, Minster Willis 16 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: has talked about opening up that five hundred million to 17 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: broader range of husy on investors. Right, The key, we 18 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: say is the institutional investors, So really opening up the 19 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 3: taps there and that changes things over the medium term. 20 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: And I think so there is there is a bit 21 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: of a change in the tone here. This is an 22 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: important move. 23 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the institutional and the key we saver funds, 24 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: et cetera. But what about the rest of us. We're 25 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: potentially a couple of years away. What does that do 26 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: to the share price? 27 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think a good point Ryan. 28 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: One of the things is many of us are investors 29 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: in QSA this, so you and I will have a 30 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: small amount of capital potentially invested in this QUSA fund 31 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: before potentially from the twenty eight posts and new digital transformation. 32 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: So I think, you know, we've got a long way 33 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: to go. It's going to take time for the business 34 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: to put that keble to work, so hopefully they do 35 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: a good job. 36 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, have obviously a lot of retric today from the 37 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: Finance minister. Have the big banks share prices reacted to 38 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: the news? 39 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's earlier, right. 40 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: It's going to take time for investors to really analyze 41 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: what this revised financial politive limit and what the reserve 42 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: bank expectations change mean. You know, we are going to 43 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: watch closely what the risk waiting for bank lending and 44 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: the minimum capital requirements for new interrants. Those they're probably 45 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: the two biggis and soon as the announcements. But yeah, look, 46 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: the initial reaction was pretty muted. Australian bank shap price 47 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: was actually down a half a percent to thirty eight 48 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: sixty Australian we spacked twenty flat thirty two seventy seven 49 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 3: Australian CBA actually up one percent to one hundred and 50 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: fifty eight dollars eighty Australian. The interesting one's A ANDZ. 51 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 3: That shap price was down three point four percent to 52 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: Australian thirty dollars ten. The current chief executive officer, Shane Elliott, 53 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: has retired and as replacement is a chap called Nuna 54 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 3: Metos who's come from HSBC. So the market was kind 55 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: of a bit there. So no I think in today, 56 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 3: no reaction from the Australian banks at this stage. But look, 57 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: you know, give it twenty four hours that maybe some 58 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: move tomorrow. 59 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: All right, we'll keep an eye on it. What about 60 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: Aulkland International Airport? Obviously the council has sold off its years. 61 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: Any change, Yeah, Look, I think what we've seen is 62 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: that that saildown was really well accepted by a wide 63 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 3: range of investors. It increases this investable pool for US 64 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: and our KIV servers, Ryan and others, and so we 65 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 3: have actually seen the sheep price go up again today, 66 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: up another two point seven percent to eight dollars twenty 67 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: four and one of the main reasons was because it's 68 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: waiting in the benchmark insoex fifty, that's the one that 69 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: many people's qis that are a match too, went up 70 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: really good demand, and I think that opens the door 71 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: for other quality defensive businesses to potentially seut on blocks. 72 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: And if I think about some of the council in 73 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: stakes and they port a tarra or maype your port 74 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: and even some of the usialand government owned stakes and 75 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: companies like Meridian, Mercury Genesis, and of course KII Bank. 76 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: Today, Yeah, yeah, I hate. I see Jerome Powell. Trump 77 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: has said you can keep your job for now. I 78 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: think I think he's on to turn three to twenty 79 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: twenty six. But the Fed obviously making another rate cut decision. 80 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: We had weaker US unemployment data come out, a softer 81 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: US unemployment data to come out last week. What do you pick? 82 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we are on track for the Fed 83 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: to cut another point two five percent that's due next 84 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: week on the eighteenth, and the market is sidly baked 85 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: and about eighty five percent probably that occurring after these 86 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: week your own employment data. That helping you see all that, 87 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: Brian that the US Fed speakers they've been sort of 88 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: go now we can perhaps tape taper the pace of 89 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 3: rate cups. That activity is really strong in the US, 90 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: it's robust, and certainly inflation it's slowing, but we're just 91 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: keeping one it. Yeah, the odds are that they're going 92 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: to cut another point two five percent. 93 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: The Chinese Central Economic Work Conference. 94 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 3: Sell it to me, Shane, Yeah, it's one that's a 95 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: bit of a sleeper people. 96 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: Don't keep an eye on, and you've picked it up. Well. 97 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,559 Speaker 3: It's an extension of the Poop Bureau meeting that happened 98 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: a few months ago when the Chinese government actually have 99 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 3: a bunch of different policies to try and stimulate the economy. 100 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: And of course we're in a Trump trade war two 101 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: point zero environment. Now the Chinese regulators can perhaps see 102 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: some of the policy coming down. So we're going to 103 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: be looking for policies that support domestic demand next year, 104 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: particularly in property and consumption. You know, this is a 105 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: pretty cautious about getting too much out. We're not expecting 106 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: a lot, but there could be some upside, particularly for 107 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 3: New Zealand. Goods and services explorers. If we do see 108 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: some more stimulus STUF to come through the Chinese economy 109 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: obviously been pretty slow with the last few years. 110 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely crucial for us and really interesting analysis Shane. 111 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Shane Soley the harbor Asset Management 112 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: with us this evening just gone twenty four minutes after six. 113 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to 114 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 115 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.