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Speaker 1: And Darcy Watergras with me today.

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Speaker 2: Darcy Heir Horiverage is in for Ryan Bridge, who is

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Speaker 2: in for hitherto plus Allen.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it sounds like a Gilbert and Sullivan song, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: You would bring it back to a music or you

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Speaker 3: can't help yourself. Well, you know old habits die hard agent.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, now, look the all Whites path to the World

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Speaker 1: Cup qualification? Look, do we care that it's going to

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Speaker 1: be that? It might be argued it's too easy because

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Speaker 1: it has been in the past.

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Speaker 2: But what we're going to talk about tonight on the program.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for setting this up. Recky Herbert's going to

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Speaker 2: join us on the show. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: the ease of qualifying and does that diminish the import

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Speaker 2: of what's going on? Will it take away the emphasis

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Speaker 2: or not? And there are theories around this Worthrecki Herbert.

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Speaker 2: I've got a few theories around it myself. What I

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Speaker 2: basically think it does is it steps it up. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: the qualification for all intents and purposes is simple enough.

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Speaker 2: And if they stumble on Friday or Monday, they'll be

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Speaker 2: hell to pay.

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Speaker 3: And that's probably the big story. It won't happen. What

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Speaker 3: happens now is once you qualify through to the World Cup.

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Speaker 3: Because they're now forty eight teams qualifying, that's quite as

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Speaker 3: opposed to from thirty two.

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Speaker 2: And then in the celebration of one hundred years of

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Speaker 2: fee for World Cup, they're going up to sixty four.

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Speaker 3: I think that's just a one off party. Quite frankly.

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Speaker 2: What it means is the first round of the World

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Speaker 2: Cup per se becomes like qualifying if you will, You're

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Speaker 2: going to have some sterner tests and some sterner games.

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Speaker 2: So if you can get through to the round of

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Speaker 2: thirty two, suddenly that becomes a success. Just get into

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Speaker 2: the World Cup up against the various countries in Oceania.

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Speaker 2: I don't think represents success what happens at the next level,

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Speaker 2: But I'll put that out to the football fans out there.

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Speaker 2: Is this relevant to get through to You said, you go,

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Speaker 2: whoa through to the World Cup? I go, yeah, OK, fine,

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Speaker 2: I could have got through with no respect whatsoever to Oceania.

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Speaker 2: We're basically what I'm saying, and everyone else will say

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Speaker 2: my respect, which basically means no respect at all, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: So what do we have to do? What's the hurdle,

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Speaker 1: even though it's a bit low that we have to

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Speaker 1: do well there.

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Speaker 2: We will win IOC because there's one qualifying point now

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Speaker 2: coming out of Asia. They didn't used to be used

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Speaker 2: to have to go through and find the one of

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Speaker 2: the seeds in Conkercath South America and beat them and

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Speaker 2: then you went through, which we didn't do last time

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Speaker 2: around when it went to cutter. So because Oceania has

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Speaker 2: got a direct qualifying route, we just have to win Oceania.

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Speaker 2: So we've got a semi final coming up tomorrow and

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Speaker 2: the a final on Monday against whom we don't know,

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Speaker 2: but it should be reasonably easy beans with what we've

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Speaker 2: seen so far through qualification. So then it goes on.

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Speaker 2: It's changed a lot. Back in twenty twenty two there

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Speaker 2: were thirteen European teams, thirteen European spots to go through.

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Speaker 2: Now it's gone to sixteen and so on and so forth,

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Speaker 2: so it all lefts So the grand scale of things,

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Speaker 2: there are sixteen more teams that are going to be

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Speaker 2: involved in the World Cup. Maybe the quality will diminished somewhat,

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Speaker 2: can drop somewhat, but.

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Speaker 1: I don't care how we get there. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Ricky Herbert. What was his era? Was he in the

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Speaker 1: team that went to the World Cup all these years ago?

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Speaker 3: No? No, he wasn't. He's a bit old than that.

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Speaker 2: No, he was the guy that coached them back when

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Speaker 2: they were unbeaten back in South Africa when they qualified

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Speaker 2: and went through there. And he's also a post played

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Speaker 2: for the national side as well. It's Phoenix coach. The

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Speaker 2: list goes on. He knows football slightly more than I do.

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Speaker 1: Fun fact, I've got a strip from the World Cup

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Speaker 1: for eighty two. My brother's mate was on the team,

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Speaker 1: Glenn Dodds. There you go. Had to drop that on

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Speaker 1: that just quickly. We've got about a minute. Ian Foster

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Speaker 1: is going to be part of the coaching setup of

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Speaker 1: the combined Australian New Zealand fifteen that will play the Lions.

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Speaker 2: What the hell, Well, there's a team where they're going

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Speaker 2: to drag out of and you'd expect this is halfway

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Speaker 2: through the lines too. They'll take some of the off

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Speaker 2: cuts from Australia and because Foster's coaching over in Japan,

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Speaker 2: he'll probably bring some New Zealand players over, maybe Aaron Smith,

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Speaker 2: maybe you Kerry Youani, maybe Sam Cain, Richie Muwanga. All

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Speaker 2: of these players might be involved, but that comes up

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Speaker 2: in it.

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Speaker 3: Just before the first tist Okay good fore feist.

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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks Darcy. Good to talk to you for more

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