1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Doctor Laura Fifer, any carnige at your place from conditions morning, 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Good morning. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: I think there's a few barbecue covers that ended up 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: in my lawn. 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: You've got lost and found running there. 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to have to go find some owners 7 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: for those. But otherwise no, not too bad fortunately for us. 8 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: We're catching up with Civil Devents Controller Ian Hyde after 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: eight to see what he's keeping tabs on and also 10 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: how prepared we should be if things really take a turn, 11 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: But hoping that things do settle down so we can 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: continue to get out and enjoy some spring planting. I 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: note doctor Laura that it's a National Gardening Week. However, 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: on this got an email the other day from health 15 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: en z urging us to take a bit of care 16 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: because of this thing called Legionaire's disease. 17 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: You heard about this, Yeah, so Legionnaire's disease is like 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: a pneumonia. What makes it slightly different to a typical pneumonia, 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: which is sort of typical chest symptoms, coughing and bringing 20 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: up lovely slim stuff and fevers. It also, you usually 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: has some sort of component where it affects your brain 22 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: a little bit. So people are quite confused and they 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: also get tummy upsets, so they get diarrhea, nausea, vomiting 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 2: as well. 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: So the reason we bring it up is the most 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: common way of catching legionaires is from those bags of 27 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: potting mix and compost. 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's in hailed bacteria. So we can pick 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: it up from soil potting mixed especially, and we can 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: also pick it up from some treated water untreated waterways, 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: so streams, rivers, hot tubs, those sorts of things as well. 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: To be fair, I'm pretty well acquainted with this. I've 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: got a friend of mine who had a run in 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: with legioniers. It can get real serious, real quack. 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It's a lot more suvere. So when 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: somebody presents to us with quite severe aneumonia and some 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: other things as well, like those tummy upsets and seeming 38 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: quite confused, that's what makes us think maybe this is 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: legioneers because it's a slightly different bacteria than our typical pneumonias, 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: and so it does need a special antibiotic. So we 41 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: need to get this diagnosis right. Sometimes doing things like 42 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: chesticks raise helps us figure that one out, but also 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 2: urinary tests so the bacteri you can actually pack it 44 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: up by testing people's urine. So some people think, oh, 45 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: it's odd that the doctor wants the sample of my urine. 46 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: Have come in a cough, But that's how we can 47 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 2: pick this up. 48 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty nine hospital admissions for this in 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: the past year, which again reiterates how serious it can be. Well, 50 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: what are the early signs, doctor Lourie, You mentioned a 51 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: couple before, But how would we know if perhaps we've 52 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: picked this up? 53 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so a few things risk factors, I suppose to like, 54 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: if we've been out in the garden with potting mix 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: not wearing a mask, then we might be lightly more risk. 56 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: It's a lot more common in older people, and it's 57 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: a lot more common in smokers. So those three things 58 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: probably are early signs as well as you think about 59 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: them as risk factors. But it generally does present initially 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: with a typical cough, bringing up lovely colored phlam and 61 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: a fever. And then the next things are that personcing 62 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: a little bit confused, not the usual selves and giving 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: those tummy symptoms. 64 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: As well as if I needed another reason to delay 65 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: getting out into our backyard, well that's. 66 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: That gardening is dangerous. I refused to do it on 67 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 2: in the experts handle that one. 68 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you got all the flying debris at the 69 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: moment too. It's all coming at us. 70 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 2: Well, that's dangerous. 71 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: Now, if you take care and and just you know, 72 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: be smart about things, then you can have some fun 73 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: and stay safe at the same time.