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Speaker 1: Dressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Dupa Clan drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else. News Talks Heavy.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. Welcome to the show coming up today. Chris Bishop's

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Speaker 2: been up in the air checking out the roads on

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Speaker 2: the East coast. He'll give us his taken what he's seen.

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Speaker 2: Winston Peters on whether it is true that he pulled

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Speaker 2: support for the India FTA before even seeing the thing.

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Speaker 2: And Simon Squid is in the country handing out money.

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Speaker 2: If you don't know what I'm talking about, I will

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Speaker 2: explain good.

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Speaker 1: Heather duple c l So the thing that we've been.

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Speaker 2: Warned about read the climate change has happened. AA Insurance

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Speaker 2: has now stopped offering new insurance policies for Westport because

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Speaker 2: of the risk of flooding. At the very end of

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Speaker 2: last year, AA Insurance wrote to the Bullet District mayor

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Speaker 2: telling him the company would be putting a they say

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Speaker 2: temporary stopped to new insurance policies for properties in the

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Speaker 2: seven eight to two five postcode, which includes Westport, Carter's

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Speaker 2: Beach in Cape Falwind. Now, if you listen to the experts,

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Speaker 2: this is just the start. It's already happening to towns

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Speaker 2: at risk of flooding in Australia. It's now happened here,

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Speaker 2: and it will keep on happening, and it will keep

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Speaker 2: on happening until these towns find ways to keep themselves

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Speaker 2: safe through things like flood defenses. Now, you do not

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Speaker 2: need me to tell you what this is going to

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Speaker 2: do to property prices. It's only going down. That's the

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Speaker 2: only direction, and not least because you need insurance to

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Speaker 2: take out a mortgage. And you know what happens next

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Speaker 2: is that people then start putting pressure on the government

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Speaker 2: to bail them out from dropping property prices.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: They want the government to buy their houses. They want

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Speaker 2: the government to provide insurance, because that's what we always

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Speaker 2: do when things go wrong, we turn to the government

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Speaker 2: to bail us out. The government absolutely should not bail

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Speaker 2: out anyone, not just because the country cannot afford it.

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Speaker 2: If every single homeowner who loses insurance cover because of

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Speaker 2: climate change in the next few decades or needs to

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Speaker 2: be bought out because of climate change in the next

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Speaker 2: few decades asks for it, it will cost the country

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Speaker 2: billions of dollars that we do not have. But also

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Speaker 2: because as harsh as it is, if the insurance company

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Speaker 2: will not cover your house anymore, maybe your house should

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Speaker 2: not be where it is. Maybe the insurance companies are

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Speaker 2: doing us a favor by forcing us to make the

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Speaker 2: decisions that we don't want to. We've been dragging our

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Speaker 2: heels on this stuff for decades now, but you can't

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Speaker 2: argue with the market. We are still building in the

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Speaker 2: wrong place, but you can't argue with the market. If

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Speaker 2: the insurance won't cover it. Taxpayers absolutely should.

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Speaker 1: Not heaver do for see Allen.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen is the text number. We're going to have a

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Speaker 2: chat to Jonathan Boston, a Victoria University expert on that

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Speaker 2: AA insurance suspending the well at least for now, halting

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Speaker 2: the new insurance policy to stand by. That's after five. Now, parents,

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Speaker 2: I've got one particularly for you, especially if you do

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Speaker 2: the kids' school run. A new reporters found that the

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Speaker 2: most dangerous time to be on the roads is during

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Speaker 2: school drop off in the morning. I would have thought

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Speaker 2: it's the afternoon, but it's the morning because most driver

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Speaker 2: fatigue events happen between seven and eight am. Now Auto Sense,

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Speaker 2: the guys behind the report and the chief executive Charles D.

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Speaker 2: Dawson is with us now. Oh, I bet that happens

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Speaker 2: to you all the time, Charles.

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Speaker 4: Yes, good to be part of the evolution of the world.

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Speaker 2: Now listen. It seems counterintuitive because I would have thought

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So look, at the end of the day, fatigue

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Speaker 2: Why in the morning, Why not in the afternoon. The

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Speaker 2: further you get away from that sleep.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's actually just all part of our natural circadian rhythm.

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Speaker 4: So the body is back in the days of cave Man.

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Speaker 2: So seven am you still want to be asleep. Apparently

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Speaker 2: it's worse on tuesdays.

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Speaker 4: Why look, I think that has a lot to do

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Speaker 4: And often what we're talking about here is people that

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Speaker 2: So you're telling me it's not the parents who are

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Speaker 2: the ones at risk of crashing, it's the other dudes

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, once again, it's actually any vehicle that has a

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Speaker 4: It's all about our natural physiology.

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Speaker 2: And then apparently worse also in August and September, which

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Speaker 2: I think probably makes sense because we're in that we're

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I mean there's also an interesting thing around

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Speaker 4: daylight savings is one of the most amazing experiments that

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Speaker 4: affect billions of people around the world, and there's a

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Speaker 4: we lose that, there's a twenty five percent increase in

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Speaker 4: car crashes. It's massive that one hour of sleep makes

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Speaker 2: Is that right? Okay? Now what do we do about it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, never mind the daylight saving because we're never

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Speaker 4: I guess it's like any it's a health thing. Really,

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Speaker 4: it's like the epidemic around obesity and those sorts of things.

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Speaker 4: It's all about education. This is the first time in

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Speaker 4: The driver has to sit behind the steering wheel so

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Speaker 4: That allows us, if they do fall asleep, to wake

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Speaker 4: so before that they've been super super tired. In fact,

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Speaker 2: Well, you're making a case for, you know how, you

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Speaker 2: have some of those drugs that cause drowsiness, Like you'll

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Speaker 2: things like antidepression drugs cause drowsiness during the day. So

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Speaker 2: if what you're saying is right, that drowsiness is the

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Speaker 2: same as having an alcohol impact, then those drugs are

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And there's there's a whole heap of them that

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Speaker 4: if you take them in combination with something else, you

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Speaker 2: Test the combination with what like the whole the night before.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So there's I mean, I don't know that the

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Speaker 2: Statins and what I don't know. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 2: on the status and I'm sure there's some micro sleeps happening.

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Speaker 2: By the way, have you ever been in one of

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Speaker 2: those cars that does the fatigued test on you when

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Speaker 2: you're driving that, like has the cameras turned on you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the product that we actually discrete, which

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Speaker 2: So so like the b y D for example, has that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but these are these are a retrofitted camera the

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Speaker 2: Which it's annoying though, Can I say that, Charles, Because

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Speaker 2: it was driving the b y D and it was like,

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Speaker 2: you need to pull over your yawning and I was like, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm just singing Bohemian Rhapsody.

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Speaker 4: And you don't necessarily you're not necessary tired when you're yawning.

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Speaker 4: Like if you're yawning, you might be brought The technology

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Speaker 2: All created again, I guess.

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Speaker 4: So the whole thing with the technology that we're working

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Speaker 4: with now is being able to pick up and perment.

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Speaker 4: We're going to be able to pick up alcohol adtection.

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Speaker 4: But the key thing is only picking it up when

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Speaker 2: Interesting Okay, Hey, thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Charles,

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Speaker 6: There it is.

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Speaker 2: Do you wanna have a crack? Maybe not today, you

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Speaker 2: come in another time you can do it. Thanks' appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Charles Dawn. I'm having a micro sleep while we're on

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Speaker 2: the What the hell is going on? Charles Dawson, He's

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Speaker 2: never going to live this down, Auto seems Chief Executive

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Speaker 2: Quarter Pouss four.

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Speaker 2: Here the halting new insurance policies and risk area as

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Speaker 2: I understand and except however that should extend to existing customers. However,

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Speaker 2: should that extend to existing customers policies, then New Zealand

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Speaker 2: is in big trouble. There's a very good distinction there,

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Speaker 2: which is AA Insurance is still ensuring people who hold

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Speaker 2: existing policies. In Westport, it's just people who want to

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Speaker 2: take out new policies and also those existing policies can

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Speaker 2: transfer to the new homeowners, which if you if you

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Speaker 2: lived in Wellington after the big quake, the co Colder quake,

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Speaker 2: there was one of the insurers that did the same thing,

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Speaker 2: and you'll remember that that was a problem there. Read

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Speaker 2: the earthquakes eighteen past four with me now as Darcy

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Speaker 2: Wadgrave Sports Talk host Areo Darcy.

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Speaker 6: No comment on insurance.

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Speaker 7: Let's move on, Hi, Heather, how are you.

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Speaker 2: Why are Auckland FC and Wellington Phoenix not going to

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Speaker 2: play in the Aussie Cup anymore?

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Speaker 7: Well, because they're not Australian teams. In short, that's the

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Speaker 7: cover they play in the A League. But should they

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Speaker 7: qualify any further on, they can't get through anywhere in Asia,

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Speaker 7: so there's no point. It becomes pointless. They where they were,

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Speaker 7: but they have been playing in it.

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Speaker 8: It's not been great for them.

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Speaker 7: I think the big thing here, and we're going to

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Speaker 7: talk to Nick Becker and David Dome on Sports Talk

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Speaker 7: not shocked, they're not blindsided and quite frankly, Australia Cup

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Speaker 7: is a very inconsistent and expensive competition to be involved

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Speaker 7: in and the prize at the end is a punch

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Speaker 7: in the face. There's no money in it twenty five

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Speaker 7: k I think, and all it does is it cost

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Speaker 7: they don't care. It doesn't matter. It's gone.

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Speaker 8: This is what it is.

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Speaker 7: It's an exercise in collecting information ahead of this.

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Speaker 8: Blindly they didn't want to go through being walloped five zip.

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Speaker 2: seven this evening for twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The name you trust to get the answers you need,

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Speaker 1: it's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 1: like no one else.

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Speaker 2: You talk there be Murray Olds is going to be

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Speaker 2: So who'll get us across that shortly? Listen, do you

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Speaker 2: know who the sky is?

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Speaker 9: Could I pay you ten thousand dollars to quit your job?

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Speaker 9: Would you quit your job for what? Quit your job

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Speaker 9: and do your own business?

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Speaker 10: So the money that you give me is my business money?

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Speaker 9: Yes, what business would you do?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Lovely?

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Speaker 12: If you cook me and my team some peastries and

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Speaker 2: Why that guy is Simon squib Okay, you know you

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Speaker 2: Squibb is an entrepreneur who's made a fair bit of

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Speaker 2: He is in New Zealand right now. We know that

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Speaker 9: Yes, thank you so much.

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Speaker 12: This pastor, he is the best past I've ever had

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Speaker 9: You are so talented.

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Speaker 13: I want to have that.

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Speaker 14: Much you need five seventy.

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Speaker 2: we need to talk about insurance, because I mean, it's

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I don't want you to get too

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Speaker 2: That is the biggest problem. Mike couldn't agree with you.

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Speaker 2: More news is next.

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in

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Speaker 1: your car on your drive home. It's hither duper c

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Speaker 1: Ellen drive with one New Zealand and the power of

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Speaker 16: All right, Paris.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be without us in ten minutes time.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you. One of the things we're going to

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on newstalks. It'd be drive.

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Speaker 2: So Donald Trump is threatening to attack Iran. Both the

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Speaker 2: do that. Here's the US State Secretary Marco Rubio this.

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Speaker 10: Regime unless they are willing to change and or leave,

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Speaker 2: Australian Liberal MPs Andrew Hasty and Angus Taylor have had

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Speaker 2: a meeting now. This meeting is significant because they are

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Speaker 10: There is no doubt that Susan is letter and she

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Speaker 2: And finally, an English toddler, Jude Owens, has managed to

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Speaker 17: I'd like to think it's in the genes, but obviously

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Speaker 2: Come on, which parent didn't look at the age of

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Speaker 2: and wonder if they still had time now you don't.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Murray Old Josie correspond for the Snaheimers.

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Speaker 5: Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 2: So what do you reckon? Other knives out for Susan,

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Speaker 5: The trouble is the people on the right are the

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Speaker 5: fair denkom he should take himself out the back and

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Speaker 2: Or sounding like that. This is the fire warning in

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Speaker 2: New South Wales?

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Speaker 5: Is there very much? So? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's

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Speaker 5: been that way well gosh since the last weekend. Nowhere

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Speaker 5: near to the same extend in terms of heat as

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Speaker 5: South Australia. You're over there bumping fifty degrees centigrade this week.

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Speaker 5: And in Victoria where of course they've been rabid bush

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Speaker 5: fires and parts of the state you've had many many

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Speaker 5: homes have gone farm buildings, you know, barns and sheds

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Speaker 5: and whatnot. Luckily no one's died, thank goodness. But temperatures

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Speaker 5: have just been soaring as they are. In western New

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Speaker 5: South Wales, you've got a cool change heather, but that's

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Speaker 5: not expected until Sunday. So you know, you look at

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Speaker 5: you at your weather forecast on television every evening, all

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Speaker 5: of you know, Western New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia.

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Speaker 5: It's this deep, deep purple which represents extreme heat. As

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Speaker 5: I say, no change expected until a cool flush comes

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Speaker 5: heading north at the back end of the weekend. South Australia,

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Speaker 5: by the way, UDNA data which holds the record for

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Speaker 5: the highest temperature ever recorded in Australia equal now fifty

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Speaker 5: one and change that will be forty eight degrees today,

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Speaker 5: so it's just.

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Speaker 2: Scorch what's this new public holiday that New South Wales

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Speaker 2: might be getting.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's you know, the critics. So it's portable patriotism

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Speaker 5: because day this year and next year will fall on

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Speaker 5: a weekend this year Saturday, next year Sunday. And two

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Speaker 5: states already were one state, which is Western Australia and

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Speaker 5: the Australian Capital Territory, which is Canberra. They've already said

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Speaker 5: that in the event of Anzac Day falling on a

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Speaker 5: weekend day, we will have a public on it our Monday.

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Speaker 16: Now.

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Speaker 5: Employers hate that, they say, hang on a second productive,

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Speaker 5: but he's already in the toilet. We need people at work.

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Speaker 5: Inflation this week, you've got three point eight percent of

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Speaker 5: the twelve months to descend, but well above the RBA target.

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Speaker 5: The cash rate right now three point six percent, expected

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Speaker 5: to go up next week when the Reserve Bank meets

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Speaker 5: for the first time this year. So the last thing

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Speaker 5: anyone's thinking about in the business end of Australian society,

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Speaker 5: the people who actually pay the wages are saying, is

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Speaker 5: there nothing better you've got to talk about than a

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Speaker 5: bloody extra public holiday for Anzac Day? Watch this space,

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Speaker 5: I guess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, mass thank you very much appreciated. Look after yourself.

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Speaker 2: It's Murray Old's Ossie correspondent. It is nineteen away from

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Speaker 2: five Heather duper Cy Ellen. I'm taking issue with the

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Speaker 2: insurance companies with New Zealand. They're labeling everything a climate

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Speaker 2: issue and they won't ensure people for flooding. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: It was a basically calling into question whether it's true

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Speaker 2: or not. Look, that is a fair question to ask,

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Speaker 2: although I would have thought if it's not real, and

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Speaker 2: if it's not, if it's not really a climate at risk,

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Speaker 2: then then then they still can do business. Why would

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Speaker 2: they stop doing business? Why they don't? Why are they

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Speaker 2: stopping the business if they could make money off it. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: We'll ask Jonathan Boston that question when he's with us

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Speaker 2: on insurance related but kind of unrelated, only related because

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Speaker 2: it's insurance. And if you're like me, all of my

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Speaker 2: insurance policies come up at the start of the year

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Speaker 2: just because I've decided to just like front load everything

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Speaker 2: that i have to do apparently in my life. So

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Speaker 2: I was having a look at it the other day.

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Speaker 2: And if you're like me, and you have got this

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Speaker 2: happening at the minute you've looked at your insurance policies

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Speaker 2: for the umpteenth year in a row and gone, what

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Speaker 2: the hell is going on? It is so expensive? Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I think I've made the decision. I always thought like

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Speaker 2: third party insurance was something for kids and old people,

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Speaker 2: but I am I'm going to go third party insurance

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Speaker 2: on one of my cars because I cannot justify the

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Speaker 2: cost anymore. So what it is is, it's a two

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Speaker 2: thousand and five Jeep Wrangler with I reckon about if

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Speaker 2: I remember correctly better, it's coming up about like eighty

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Speaker 2: six on the clock or something like that, is a

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Speaker 2: fair few k's on the thing. So I asked chat

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Speaker 2: GPT how much money can I get for this car?

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Speaker 2: And it was like, oh, ten to eighteen thousand dollars?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, you're generous. You're not tena from turners?

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Speaker 2: Are you ten to eight whatever? Anyway, So let's go

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Speaker 2: let's just let's be realistic and go, okay, ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: If your car's worth ten thousand dollars, is it worth

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Speaker 2: ensuring it at the rate of twelve hundred dollars every year?

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Speaker 2: Because in the space of about eight years, I've just

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Speaker 2: paid the value of my car and insurance. It's like

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Speaker 2: this is this is an utterly pointless exercise. So I

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Speaker 2: think I think I'm going to go third party anyway.

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Speaker 2: That's just me moaning to you feel sorry for me. Please,

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Speaker 2: thanks very much, Bary Sopers.

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Speaker 1: Next Politics with Centrics Credit check your customers and get

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Speaker 2: I just a reminder Winston Peters is going to be

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Speaker 2: a US after half past five on this spat that

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Speaker 2: he's having with Todd McLay the FTA right now, it's

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Speaker 2: fourteen away from five and Barry Soper, Senior political Correspondence

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Speaker 2: with US High Barry Hello, hell thoughts on that.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, not only with Todd McLay, he's having

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Speaker 8: it with Chris Luxon publicly, Chris Luckson said that Winston

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Speaker 8: was wrong. Under the Coalition agreement, they do have a

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Speaker 8: beg to differ arrangement where New Zealand fest doesn't have

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Speaker 8: to vote for the legislation to bring in this FTA.

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Speaker 8: But you know, this FTA covers what the most populous

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Speaker 8: nation on earth now and you know the fact that

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Speaker 8: Winston also opposed the free trade agreement with China. Now,

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Speaker 8: I was up in Beijing when that was signed by

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Speaker 8: Phil Golf and Helen Clark, and he was opposed to

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Speaker 8: it because he said that essentially China investment will now

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Speaker 8: flood New Zealand. He said there was not enough in

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Speaker 8: it for New z and the lead in time was

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Speaker 8: too long. New Zealand's exports to China from two thousand

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Speaker 8: and eight to twenty four grew from two point five

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Speaker 8: to eight billion to twenty point eight five billion that times.

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Speaker 8: So I think we've done pretty well out of the

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Speaker 8: China Free Trade Agreement, you know, when you look at

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Speaker 8: the one with India.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 8: I've talked to Tom McLay this afternoon about it and said,

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Speaker 8: you know, does he have some concerns and raised them

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Speaker 8: with Todd McLay about immigration, the number of Indians who

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Speaker 8: will be able to flood into the country, and Tod

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Speaker 8: McLay went through it point by point. He said, no,

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Speaker 8: it's not going to happen. This is pure politicking. Now,

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Speaker 8: Todd McClay and Winston Peter's get on very well. Winston

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Speaker 8: used to employ Tod mclay's father in his office, so

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Speaker 8: they are pretty good mates. And I said, why don't

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Speaker 8: you sit down with Winston and start explaining.

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Speaker 2: Because it's not about the truth as it is about.

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Speaker 8: Politic Well, but the National Party is not telling the truth.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is and that is exactly what I was

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Speaker 2: going to come to. So also, Young has written a

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Speaker 2: piece for The Herald this afternoon saying this is a

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Speaker 2: reasonable problem, like this is trouble brewing because the comments

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Speaker 2: go and I'm going to quote it, these comments go

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Speaker 2: a lot further than just to disagreement over a point

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Speaker 2: of view. They suggest New Zealand First's coalition partners are

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Speaker 2: being deceitful. He is accusing them of actually trying to

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Speaker 2: hide things from the public, which does Audrey's right does

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Speaker 2: go a step up.

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Speaker 8: So, oh, indeed it does. Well, you know, it's politicking and.

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Speaker 2: The man petician to let him do this, aren't they?

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Speaker 8: Oh well why not? I mean, you know they're talking

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Speaker 8: to Labor at the moment because they want to pass

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Speaker 8: this legislation. They want to have it before the House

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Speaker 8: for the next couple of months, and they want it

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Speaker 8: passed before the year ends, before the election essentially, and

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Speaker 8: if they don't get the agreement out of New Zealand First,

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Speaker 8: then they will need other party and that other party

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Speaker 8: has to be Labor. I see that they've put a

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Speaker 8: few restrictions on although they haven't announced what they are

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Speaker 8: before they give support. But I would imagine those restrictions

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Speaker 8: won't prevent Labor from going down the track of supporting

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Speaker 8: the National Party on this one, just as National supported

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Speaker 8: Labor on the free trade agreement with China.

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Speaker 2: You reckon homelessness is going to become an election issue?

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Speaker 8: Well, yes I do, because you know, Labor bangs on

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Speaker 8: about homelessness all the time and I think it will

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Speaker 8: be an election issue, particularly those people sleeping in the

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Speaker 8: streets and here in Auckland was the issue that was

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Speaker 8: raised in Parliament today. The Labor suggested that the Toffs

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Speaker 8: and Auckland's Remuweer and new Lynn and EPSOM will end

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Speaker 8: up hosting their beautifully hosting the homeless on their beautifully

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Speaker 8: manicured burms and their pavements when they get moved on

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Speaker 8: from the the central city. The party's deputy leader, Carmel

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Speaker 8: Ceppaloni was taking the Minister for Auckland Simian Brown, to

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Speaker 8: task for the nine hundred and forty city dwellers who

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Speaker 8: bear down on the streets in this city every night.

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Speaker 8: Brown though, was not having a bar of it.

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Speaker 2: Where does he expect them to go when he kicks

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Speaker 2: them out of the CBD?

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Speaker 18: What I say to the opposition is we are very

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Speaker 18: focused on making sure our Auckland Central Business District is safe,

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Speaker 18: it is welcoming to people who work there, who live there,

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Speaker 18: and who visit there, because we know how important it

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Speaker 18: is to our economy, to jobs and opportunities in New Zealand,

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Speaker 18: and we're focused on doing what's needed to fix the

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Speaker 18: basics and build the future.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. The thing is that, you know, something has to

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Speaker 8: be done about the homeless in Auckland. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 8: we walk down the street every day and you see

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Speaker 8: somebody in a street door, or you see the remnants

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Speaker 8: of sleeping overnight in the city. So you know, I

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Speaker 8: think the city has to be cleaned up, just like

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Speaker 8: every city in the country.

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Speaker 2: Louise ups and excited about the surfing event.

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Speaker 8: The surfing event, Well you should be you'll be excited. Well,

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Speaker 8: you'll be excited being a surfer.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 8: What does it mean a left point break? It's right,

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Speaker 8: so you break left rather than right.

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Speaker 2: Breaks in a certain way. Yeah, oh I see, so.

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Speaker 8: Would count you out.

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Speaker 1: I can't.

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Speaker 8: You've only had the right break waves.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no beach breaks, so they break in all directions.

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Speaker 2: And what you will testify to is I just go

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Speaker 2: in whatever direction. There's no actual surfing that happens.

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Speaker 8: Louise us. She could only contain itself that we've secured

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Speaker 8: such a prestigious.

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Speaker 6: Surf mister speaker.

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Speaker 19: We've had a wave of positive feedback.

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Speaker 13: Surfing.

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Speaker 19: New Zealand CEO Ben Kenning said, this is huge for

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Speaker 19: New Zealand and we can't wait to host these best

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Speaker 19: surfers in the world. It's going to be pretty spectacular,

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Speaker 19: mister speaker. This andnnouncement is already showing very positive signs

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Speaker 19: and means we're building a reputation internationally as a world

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Speaker 19: class destination for sports, culture and entertainment.

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Speaker 16: Right, very good.

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Speaker 8: I hope Little Raglan can cope with it all.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, they will be absolutely fizzing for it. Boguan a.

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Speaker 2: Lou Upston is a boguin. She's into surfing in Lincoln Park.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well in that case, not into.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Parks's thanks for that. Barry Barrys Ober, Senior political correspondent,

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Speaker 2: eight away from five.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 20: Election years thrown up as biggest retirement today so far.

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Speaker 20: Judith Collins, of course is calling time, Judith Colins, as

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Speaker 20: well as the moment you decided is there a story behind.

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Speaker 1: Any of that or not?

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Speaker 21: I just really felt the last year or so, I

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Speaker 21: just so enjoyed these pootfolders are there. This has been

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Speaker 21: my best term of parliament and I thought, I really

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Speaker 21: want to go out on the high. Twenty four years

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Speaker 21: is quite a long time in parliament and it's a

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Speaker 21: good of fate.

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Speaker 3: Mike.

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Speaker 21: I'm not the mother of the House and it's like,

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Speaker 21: you know anything, I had twenty something haughty children. It's

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Speaker 21: really difficult.

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Speaker 3: So I just really.

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Speaker 1: Felt that it was time to go.

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Speaker 21: Twelve years in opposition twelve years in government. That's a

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Speaker 21: pretty good symmetry.

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Speaker 20: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 20: Mayley's Real Estate News Talk z B.

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Speaker 2: On the destruction that last week's weather caused. Obviously, a

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Speaker 2: lot of the roads, a lot of a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: of communities on the East Coast that are still cut

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Speaker 2: off on the roads are in a complete state. Chris Bishop,

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Speaker 2: Transport Mianist has been up in the air with the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister day in a shopper having a look at it.

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Speaker 2: So he's going to join us after five o'clock and

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Speaker 2: just talk us through that through what he's seen up there.

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Speaker 2: Big day, Big day for book lovers. Got the long

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Speaker 2: list for the twenty twenty six Ockham Book Awards, and

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Speaker 2: Jacinda Ardurn's book has made the list for the General

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Speaker 2: Nonfiction Award. She's up against some reasonably strong competitions. So

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Speaker 2: there's I'm not even going to try to pretend this

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Speaker 2: to pronounce the name of the artist, Tony what's his name.

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Speaker 2: It's a book. It's a book by Mark Foreman that

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Speaker 2: apparently some say that that one's got the nunch and

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Speaker 2: is likely to take it out. Also, Steve Braunius's book

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Speaker 2: on Polkinghorn is right up there as well, so a

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Speaker 2: fair bit of competition for her anyway. So the long

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Speaker 2: list is it's quite an involved process that it like

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Speaker 2: they draw it out. They've got the long list out

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Speaker 2: now and then they're going to put out the short

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Speaker 2: list on March the fourth, and if they were smart

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Speaker 2: and wanted the pr for it, that probably keep ja

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Speaker 2: Cinda's book in there just for you know, just so

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Speaker 2: we keep on being interested in it. Anyway. Jenna Todd,

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Speaker 2: who's the manager at Mount Eden's Time Out book store,

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Speaker 2: is going to join us in fifteen minutes and took

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Speaker 2: us through whether j Cinder's actually got a chance at

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Speaker 2: all at this Hither. I've got a two thousand and

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Speaker 2: four Toyota wish for running around town. I paid four

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Speaker 2: thousand bucks for it and I insured it for four

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Speaker 2: thousand bucks. My insurance company were charging me five hundred

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Speaker 2: bucks a year. Then they wanted to start charging me

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Speaker 2: nine hundred and fifty dollars a year for full cover.

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Speaker 2: So I went down to third party as well. Heather,

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Speaker 2: we have third party for our cars when they get older.

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Speaker 2: There is no point as the value only go down.

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Speaker 2: So far, Heather, we have our beachcar on third party only.

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Speaker 2: Haven't had any problems over the past ten years. I

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Speaker 2: think the decision has been I'll just I put that basically,

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Speaker 2: just crowdsourced that decision. Third party for the jet Wrangler

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Speaker 2: from here on in call AA tomorrow my insurance company. Right,

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about AA insurance next actually, because

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Speaker 2: they pulled out of Westport, so we'll get the take

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Speaker 2: on that news took zb my brother.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can try the truck to

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Speaker 1: ask the question, get the answers, find a fact and

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Speaker 1: give the analysis. Heather dup Clan Drive with One New

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Speaker 1: Zealand and the Power of satellite Mobile News Talks b Afternoon.

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Speaker 2: So we've been warned about it and now it has happened.

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Speaker 2: AA Insurance has stopped offering new home policies in Westport

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Speaker 2: because of the elevated risk of flooding in the area.

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Speaker 2: Existing policies will continue and they can be transferred if

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Speaker 2: the house is sold. Jonathan Boston is a Victoria University

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Speaker 2: emeritus professor and he joins me. Now Hi Jonathan Hi.

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Speaker 3: Heather.

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Speaker 2: The insurance company says, this is just temporary. Do you

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Speaker 2: think it's temporary?

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Speaker 22: Well, we'll have to wait and see. They're saying that

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Speaker 22: they will need to review things in the light of

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Speaker 22: the particular defensive structures that are going to be built

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Speaker 22: over the next few years to provide additional protection to

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Speaker 22: Westport and therefore presumably reduce the flood risk. But they

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Speaker 22: haven't guaranteed that they will resume providing new insurance cover

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Speaker 22: And what is more, they haven't indicated what they'll be

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Speaker 22: charging to provide existing customers with insurance cover.

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Speaker 2: Are you suggesting that they may in fact continue the

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Speaker 2: existing policies but price them so high no one can

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Speaker 2: afford them.

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Speaker 22: Well, it's a question that AI Insurance needs to be

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Speaker 22: asked icipate given the risks that they have ascertained exist

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Speaker 22: in Westport, based on obviously very good evidence from a

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Speaker 22: range of sources, that there are significant risks facing existing properties,

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Speaker 22: let alone new ones, and that therefore those risks would

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Speaker 22: need to be priced appropriately. And I would have visaged

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Speaker 22: that would entail some increase exactly how much. I've no idea.

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Speaker 2: Do you think, Jonathan, that this is just the start.

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Speaker 2: Westport's the first place. Houses around the country and other

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Speaker 2: parts of the country may in fact be the next.

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Speaker 22: Well, we need to understand Westport isn't first, and what

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Speaker 22: we're talking about at the moment is partial retreat in Westport.

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Speaker 22: In the wake of the big North Island city of

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Speaker 22: weather events two years ago, the insurance industry made it

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Speaker 22: clear to owners of Category three properties those are the

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Speaker 22: ones that would deem to be too risky to be

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Speaker 22: rebuilt and lived in. The insurance company has made it

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Speaker 22: clear that if people refuse to accept the buyout offers

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Speaker 22: from local government, they would not provide insurance cover. So

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Speaker 22: we already have in recent years now probably several thousand

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Speaker 22: cases of where insurers have indicated that they would pull

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Speaker 22: out completely. So Westport is not new, it's another example.

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Speaker 22: It's significant in the sense that it's one of the

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Speaker 22: first times insurers have, outside the context of an immediate disaster,

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Speaker 22: indicated that they're going to pull back their insurance cover

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Speaker 22: to some extent. Almost certainly, how we will witness more

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Speaker 22: cases like this because obviously we are in a period

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Speaker 22: of climate intensified risk. Those risks are going to grow.

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Speaker 22: Sea level rise will intensify flood risk for many communities

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Speaker 22: up and down the country, and indeed, in the longer term,

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Speaker 22: we will need to move significant numbers of people and

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Speaker 22: property out of harm's way as a result of the

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Speaker 22: impacts of climate change.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan, thank you for your time. Has always appreciated. Jonathan Boston,

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Speaker 2: Victoria University, Emeritus Professor. It's coming up eleven past.

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Speaker 1: Five, Heather due for ce Ellen.

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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister and the Transport Minister have taken to

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Speaker 2: the air to assess the damage to the roads on

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Speaker 2: the East Coast cause by last week's weather. Speaking of

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Speaker 2: the weather, they say that urgent work is underway to

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Speaker 2: get those transport links restored. And let's talk to Chris

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Speaker 2: Bishop about that high bish.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 2: But you been up in the air, how to look around?

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Speaker 2: What's it looking like?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, we've been been in Hicks Bay today and Tiodera

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Speaker 23: all the way up on the top of the East

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Speaker 23: coast Tarafari just in Gisben today meeting with the MARE

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Speaker 23: and checking in with the emergency response team here who

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Speaker 23: are doing a great job and checking with local communities too.

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Speaker 23: Made a KFC delivery to the hard working team at

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Speaker 23: Tower of which was I think they appreciated. But to

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Speaker 23: answer your question, the roads are not a great shape

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Speaker 23: up here is I think people know that the two

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Speaker 23: big challenges are the wy Wiki Gorge, which is a

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Speaker 23: key freight route obviously, and NZTA is working really hard

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Speaker 23: on that. They're basically approaching at at either end and

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Speaker 23: just clearing the slips and the debris, and the contractors

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Speaker 23: are working really hard on that. We're hoping that within

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Speaker 23: about a week they'll be able to get one lane open,

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Speaker 23: which will be a big You be a big step

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Speaker 23: forward means that people will be able to come and go.

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Speaker 23: So that's what they're aiming for in about a week's

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Speaker 23: State Highway thirty five, you know right that wraps around

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Speaker 23: up up the coast. That's where that big slip that

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Speaker 23: I think people listening will have seen you shots of.

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Speaker 23: That's about two hundred thousand cubic meters on that one

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Speaker 23: slip alone by the campground or camp site, and five

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Speaker 23: hundred thousand cubic meters on the on the road itself.

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Speaker 23: That's going to require moving. That's a big job, and

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Speaker 23: you know that that's going to be it's going to

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Speaker 23: be a tougher challenge.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do the guys who want an alternative to why

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Speaker 2: we could gorge actually have a point?

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Speaker 23: Well, that's I think something that's a conversation we're going

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Speaker 23: to probably end up having, you know, as the days

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Speaker 23: and weeks and months go by. The focus right now

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Speaker 23: is obviously just the immediate response, and we've been on

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Speaker 23: the ground talking to people about you know, what they

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Speaker 23: need in terms of medical supplies and and you know,

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Speaker 23: food and housing support and things like that. So that's

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Speaker 23: the sort of immediate focus obviously from a transport point

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Speaker 23: of view, which I'm in charge of. You know, it's

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Speaker 23: just actually getting the road open because it's a major

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Speaker 23: freight route and it's like three and a half hours

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Speaker 23: four hours the other way if you can't use it.

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Speaker 23: And then you know, as we as we clear all

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Speaker 23: the debris and reopen the road, ZTA and the contractors

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Speaker 23: that we're having a really good look at the why

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Speaker 23: we could gorge and you know, thinking about what we

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Speaker 23: need to do to rebuild and be the same with

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Speaker 23: State Highway thirty five as well.

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Speaker 2: And look, but I mean there's a lot of talk

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Speaker 2: at the moment of you know, we can't keep doing this.

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Speaker 2: The roads get shut down by slips every few years,

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Speaker 2: we reopen them again. What do we actually have an alternative?

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Speaker 2: Like is there another way of doing this or is

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Speaker 2: this simply the game we have to play.

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Speaker 23: Well, one of the good things over the last you know,

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Speaker 23: four or five years, is that NZTA has been building

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Speaker 23: resilience into all of its planning and its forecast. Right now,

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Speaker 23: so if you think about the response to the severe

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Speaker 23: weather events from Gabrielle, you know, there's been hundreds of

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Speaker 23: millions of dollars put into this region rebuilding roads, after

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Speaker 23: those events, and what they've been doing is making really

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Speaker 23: sensible improvements to the road so they're a lot more resilient.

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Speaker 23: So for example, there's a couple of bits of state

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Speaker 23: highways where they've raised them up a meter or so,

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Speaker 23: they've put some culverts in the right place. For example,

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Speaker 23: those sections of the state highway network actually came through

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Speaker 23: the weather events really well. So it just shows that

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Speaker 23: actually when you do rebuild, if as long as you

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Speaker 23: rebuild in the right way and you're sensible about it

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Speaker 23: and you take all the engineering advice that you can,

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Speaker 23: you know you can build resilience into the build. And

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Speaker 23: that's that's what we'll be aiming to do. And you

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Speaker 23: know that is happening now and actually, as I say,

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Speaker 23: it's proven, you know, been very effective in the last

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Speaker 23: and last for years.

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Speaker 2: Besh, thanks very much, Christmas ship the Transport Minister. Fourteen

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Speaker 2: past five ever, duper c ellen old. Here we go

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Speaker 2: on the interest rates again. Westpac New Zealand is increasing

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Speaker 2: its longer term mortgage rates again. So from from Monday

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Speaker 2: are the eighteen month standard rates up to it's going

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Speaker 2: up by zero point one. So that's what ten basis

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Speaker 2: points up to five point twenty nine. The three year

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Speaker 2: standard rate up by ten basis points to five points

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Speaker 2: seven to five. Shorter rates are coming back, so the

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Speaker 2: six month special rate is coming back by twenty basis

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Speaker 2: points to four point four nine percent, and the six

874
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Speaker 2: month standard rates also down twenty basis points to five

875
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 2: point zero Elick, do you know what, by the time

876
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: I'm up for renewal in April, and I feel like

877
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: by the time I'm up for renewal, I'm just going

878
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: to be fixing at exactly the same point I'm already at.

879
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: I've just ridden through this whole thing, unfortunately missed the

880
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: bottom quarter past. Just a reminder, Winston Peters is going

881
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: to be with us after half past five. Are just

882
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: talking through the India FDA stout with the National Party.

883
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: Right now. It's eighteen past five and this years Ockham

884
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: Book Awards nominees have just dropped the long list. And

885
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: it's interesting because, in particular of the general nonfiction category,

886
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: which is filled with true crime, history and politics, and

887
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: the politics is that Jasinda Ardan's autobiography is up for

888
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: the nomination. Jenna Todd is the manager of Time Out

889
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: bookstore in Mount Eden with US high Jenna.

890
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 13: Kyoto, Heather, how are you well?

891
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: Thanks?

892
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 3: Mate?

893
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: How do you write her chances? Could you take it out?

894
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 8: Oh?

895
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 13: Well, that's a really hard category for general nonfiction. We

896
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 13: have fourteen books in there, and they cover such a

897
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 13: wide range of topics. You have history, memoir, creative essays.

898
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 13: So who knows? I just I have no idea.

899
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: Which is your favorite of the ones that you've read?

900
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: Who would you give us of the general nonfiction? Yeah?

901
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 13: Oh, this is a hard one too, because I haven't

902
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 13: read all of them. I think I love that Steve

903
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 13: Braunius is on there. I think his true crime book

904
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 13: about Polkinghorn is really nuanced and it doesn't really give

905
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 13: you an answer, but it's also bitingly funny and informed

906
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 13: as well. I've been hearing amazing things about the middle

907
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 13: of nowhere, stories of the working of stories of working

908
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 13: on the Mauna Pode hydro project, which I just think

909
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 13: is such a niche topic. But I also love The

910
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 13: Welcome of Strangers, a History of Southern Mahorori by Ethel Anderson.

911
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 13: But I might be biased as I'm Kaitah, but it's

912
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 13: a beautiful, big book.

913
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: Just cinda didn't make your shortlist.

914
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 13: I think I loved that book. I think it's a

915
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 13: really great memoir. It's very domestic, it was really really

916
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 13: well written. I think it's an amazing page turner, and

917
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 13: it's been a big it's been a big seller in

918
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 13: New Zealand overall in that timeout as well.

919
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was actually a very good book. It was

920
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: it was quite well written. And what about the fiction category?

921
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: Who do You Reckon? Is going to take it out there?

922
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 13: Well, A lot of people are saying Catherine Chigee's the

923
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 13: Book of Guilt. She's won the prize twice before. That's

924
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 13: been a best sellers alongside Just Cinder, as well as

925
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 13: nineteen five by Dominic Cowey. I think that's quite a

926
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 13: crowd favorite. It's such an endaring, great tale of Graylan

927
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 13: in the nineteen eighties. But I've also got I really

928
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 13: loved Hood's Landing by Laura Vincent and Wonderland by Tracy Fas.

929
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 13: So those are like small presses, which I think it

930
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 13: would be great to see some small presses take the

931
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 13: win as well, Jenna.

932
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: If I go and get Catherine Chigee's book, am I

933
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 2: going to like? Is it like a normal person read

934
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: or is it going to be one of those reads.

935
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: Where are you sure? Because sometimes the Ockhams go, I go.

936
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: Sometimes I go read these books. I got all wow,

937
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: this is hard work.

938
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 13: Catherine Schige is one of our best living New Zealand writers.

939
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 13: You can write about anything. Okay, this is not in

940
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 13: set in New Zealand. It's a page turner, it's got

941
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 13: lots of twists. It's a great read.

942
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: You are the experts. So I'm gonna take your I'm

943
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: going to take the tip from you and I'm gonna

944
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: read it. Hey, thank you, Jenna as always appreciated. My

945
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: Jenna Todd, manager of Mount Eden's Time Out Books, will

946
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: tell you what I just finished reading. Actually well, I

947
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: mean I just finished reading David Cohen's book on Cinder,

948
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: which actually I would I would refer you to over

949
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: Jinder's book on just Cinder because you know, for obvious reasons.

950
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 2: But before that Boy Swallows Universe, I'm a little bit

951
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 2: late to it. Actually, this is the Aussie the book

952
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: that's set in Breezy. If you haven't, if you haven't

953
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: read it, go and read it. It is absolutely worth.

954
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: It was one of my Christmas presents. It was a

955
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: good present. Five to twenty one.

956
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: Cutting through the noise to get the facts. It's heatherdfic

957
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage like no one

958
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: else news talks.

959
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: They'd be Winston Peters after the news five to twenty four.

960
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: So the latest headline from trade me today reads like

961
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: something of a lament, and I suppose it is. The

962
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: headline is the traditional key we dream of buying a

963
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: do or upper may be fading. And they say this

964
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: because the survey last month found that nearly half of

965
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: active buyers want new or renovated homes and only six

966
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: percent at the moment are looking for a do up. Now.

967
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how that compares historically, but the suggestion

968
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: is obviously that six percent is quite low, and if

969
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: it is low, then we can talk about why they're

970
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: why this is happening right. Maybe young people nowadays are

971
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 2: entitled expecting to live like their parents from day dot,

972
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: not taking into account parents had to work decades to

973
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: live in the comforts that they do. Young people nowadays

974
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: don't want to put the hard yards and spoiled, and

975
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: we could talk about what kind of what a pity

976
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: it is to lose these kinds of skills, and how

977
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: empowering it is to be able to put a new

978
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: lock and a door yourself, or to be able to

979
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: drill a seventy millimeters hole in the laundry cabinet so

980
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: you can plumb the hot water to your washing machine

981
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: yourself instead of getting a plumber in like I did

982
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: last week. By the way, I did the drilling, not

983
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: getting the plumber obviously. But the truth is, if we

984
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: are honest, probably New Zealand is better off if we're

985
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: not drying our houses. Don't you think I feel like

986
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 2: it's slightly heretics to say this because of our number

987
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: eight wire culture, which we hold so dearly, But I

988
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: don't think it's a good idea that we diry our

989
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: houses to the extent that we have. If you've ever

990
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: done your own reno like I have, ironically, you'll know

991
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: what I mean when I say how alarming alarming it

992
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: can be to pull off the jib and the old

993
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: bloke who owned the house before you did to the framing.

994
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: There is a hell of a lot of dodgy stuff

995
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: going on behind walls and under houses that we aren't

996
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: actually aware of, and if we were, we probably wouldn't

997
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: buy the house. And given the situation with the Building

998
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: Act and who's going to be taking responsibility in all

999
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: the legislative changes. Maybe it isn't a good idea if

1000
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: we do the di wise ourself. In truth, I think

1001
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: we would be better off being a little bit more

1002
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: like the younger generation and leaving the DIY to the

1003
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: qualified builders and moving into houses that have already been

1004
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 2: tidied up by the professionals. So maybe in this instance,

1005
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: the young ones may be onto something.

1006
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: Heather dopersl Simon Squibb.

1007
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: I mentioned this earlier. If you know who Simon squib is,

1008
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: you know that this is the fact that he is. Yes,

1009
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: he's in New Zealand at the moment. Newsflash. The fact

1010
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: that he is in New Zealand at the moment is

1011
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: pretty exciting for anybody who comes across his path and

1012
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: convinces him to do the thing where he hands over

1013
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand pounds to them to start a business.

1014
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: He did that, as I was telling you earlier, to

1015
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: a woman who works as a chef, who works in

1016
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: a cafe and Remiwera. The other day, we've got him

1017
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: on the show after six o'clock. I want to find

1018
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: out what happened to the chef. Did he buy her

1019
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: the business that because she wants to own the business.

1020
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: The cafes up for sale and she wants to own

1021
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: it and run it herself and make her dreams come true.

1022
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: Did he do it for her? He's with us. As

1023
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: I say, after six o'clock, I was just thinking about

1024
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: the interest rate things thing with Westpac. This is because

1025
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: we're now into the election year and basically everything that

1026
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 2: happens with the economy and interest rates has a bearing

1027
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 2: on what happens inn election year. And this is probably

1028
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: not great news for the government. It's not their fault,

1029
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 2: it is not their fault, but it is probably not

1030
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 2: great news for the government because if I'm coming off

1031
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: not because it's me, but other people will be in

1032
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: the same position as me coming off the fixed rates,

1033
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: you know, April, May, June whatever, straight onto rates that

1034
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: are exactly the same, if not higher. Now, I was

1035
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: expecting to have more discretionary income after my rate rolls over,

1036
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to, which means I'm not going

1037
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: to be feeling any more flush. I'm not going to

1038
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: be feeling stoked about things. So it doesn't tip the

1039
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: balance in favor of the National Party. Unfortunately for them. Anyway,

1040
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: see what happens many months ago. Yet news is next

1041
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: and then Winniepete.

1042
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: Hard questions strong opinion, hither dupisy Ellen drive with one

1043
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile Newsak said,

1044
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: be mister.

1045
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 2: Hi, my son renewed his fixed rate mortgage this month

1046
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: and it's actually higher and it's with Westpac Bank Huddle

1047
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: standing by right now. It's twenty five away from six now.

1048
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: The staus between Winston Peter's and the National Party over

1049
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: the India Free Trade Deal has deepened. Trade Minister Todd

1050
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: McLay has revealed Winston Peters pulled his support before he'd

1051
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: even seen the final office. So let's talk to him,

1052
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: of course. New Zealand First Leader Winston Peters Winston Hello, Hello,

1053
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: how are you? And well thank you? So as Todd right,

1054
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: we called.

1055
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: The vineil when we knew what it was going to

1056
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 3: be signed up to the moment we found that out,

1057
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 3: we said we can't support that. So it's not point

1058
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 3: the deal. We were saying, you're meant to be in

1059
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 3: a free trade deal negotiation. Now you've got an immigration

1060
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: deal negotiation and we're not happy with it.

1061
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: So what was the date do you remember roughly when

1062
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: you pulled the deal.

1063
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, this last year week, and remember that exactly my team

1064
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: were talking about it. We know the exact that it's

1065
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 3: all diarized. We sent a note to make sure that

1066
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: it was no mistake.

1067
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: Okay. And so you're saying you actually knew the details

1068
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: of the deal when you pulled the support. You knew

1069
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: what we were signing up for.

1070
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: That's right, okay. And specifically that's because we kept we

1071
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: had to be kept the breast of it. I've been

1072
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: to India myself. I talked to him and from the

1073
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: very beginning, and you know we were talking about a

1074
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 3: immigration a trade deal and it is not being substantial

1075
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: an immigration deal. Don't believe me? See what go we

1076
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: are the prevalent minister to McLay and what more of

1077
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: the prime ministers are saying And are we saying that

1078
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: they're not telling the truth. That's the point here.

1079
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: So your primary problem is the migration aspect. Is it

1080
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: too many arrivals?

1081
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 3: Well, it could be twenty thousand plus in any given time,

1082
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: that's the point. Now I've heard that mister mclay's appearance

1083
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 3: at the Select Committee today and in the early had

1084
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: to concede that there were those people who had the

1085
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 3: right to bring their spouses and their children right away.

1086
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 3: Right away, there comes one person, modify the spouse and

1087
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Speaker 3: the children. You go to twenty twenty five thousand, just

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00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: like that, And thesey Oners are not being.

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Speaker 2: Told that is it all five thousand of these potential

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Speaker 2: arrivals who can bring family.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because see here's the point again, it was said

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Speaker 3: at the selectmmittee, but we have uncapped student and were

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00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 3: coming to his young Now yeah, use for export education.

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00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 3: It's uncapped. But they're coming and their economy and their

1095
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: parents are paying for their education in New Zealand. What's

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00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: happening here is in the economy is paying for the education.

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Speaker 3: That's why they can get twenty hours, That's why they

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00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 3: got to get three more news to work. The New

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00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: zeal Only economy is going to be paying for the education.

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Speaker 3: And that is not export education.

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00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: But I mean these people are coming to work in

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00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: parts of the economy where we have skill shortages. So

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00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: there is a benefit to us.

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00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, seriously, shares yoga teachers, natural

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00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 3: medicine practitioners.

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Speaker 2: That's only two hundred of them, that's only two hundred

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Speaker 2: out of five thousand.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you understand that's stillful.

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00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: But isn't that still eight hundred workers that we need?

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Speaker 3: Can I tell you you need to understand what's going

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00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 3: on in immigration now. The number of the roads that

1112
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 3: have been pulled and form in some ways it's been

1113
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 3: a form of slavery. There are people coming here to

1114
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 3: get education, but they are not going to be educated

1115
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: because the purpose of there to coming here is to

1116
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: work and all sorts of jobs and under the radar,

1117
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: so to speak, and not being paid poppy. It isn't

1118
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 3: a shopping and diving on is in. I know this

1119
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 3: because I've seen it and I know nothing.

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Speaker 2: But won you are changing the subject here? Am I

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00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: not right that those occupations that you just listed only

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00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: account for two hundred of the five thousand workers that

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00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: are coming here. Four thousand, eight hundred are in skill

1124
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 2: areas where we have skill shortages.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, we don't have skill shortage in the

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00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: context that they're saying, because if we did, why didn't

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00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: we offer that to China? Why didn't we offer that

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00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 3: to other countries?

1129
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: Because it's important to the Indians, it's what they wanted.

1130
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, excuse me. Look, we have been waiting

1131
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: since nineteen eighty five when Mike Moore took a delegation

1132
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 3: there for a free trade deal, and then we've got

1133
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: a promise we're going to get one more than three years,

1134
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: and within twenty one months we've signed up to something

1135
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: without doing the work and without telling the public. Can

1136
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: I ask you this question, has any journalist or any

1137
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: immedia person seen this deal? And if not, why not?

1138
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: Well answer the question for me.

1139
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 8: Why not?

1140
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: Well, because they cannot appear to disclose it at this

1141
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: point in time. They are saying that they've got legal

1142
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 3: work working on to make sure it means what we

1143
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 3: greet it means. Excuse me, that can't be true. Ask Kipkins,

1144
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: have you been asked and have you beat? Have you

1145
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: seen the deal? Yes or no? Because the youths have

1146
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 3: seen the deal. Why haven't you seen the deal? Why

1147
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: haven't your listeners heard about it? Something is going off

1148
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 3: me wrong here.

1149
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 17: Now.

1150
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 3: I don't mean to be difficult about it, but I

1151
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: said from the word go that I'll do my best

1152
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 3: to help to steal over the line. But it's got

1153
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 3: to be a trade deal, all.

1154
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 2: Right, Winston, Listen, thank you very much. Always appreciate your time.

1155
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 2: It's Winston Peter's New Zealand First leader on the delay.

1156
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: I'm told this is quite normal to not see the

1157
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: like the deal has been signed. You don't get to

1158
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 2: see the paperwork. It takes a little lawyers go through,

1159
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: it takes a little while, can take three months and whatever.

1160
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. Anyway, we'll see if his warnings bear out.

1161
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: But I'm told at this stage is quite normal. Twenty

1162
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: away from six.

1163
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the only

1164
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: truly global brand.

1165
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: On the huddle with us this evening. We have Thomas

1166
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: Scrimger from the Maximu Institute and Narwie Jones read pr

1167
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: hello you too, good eight Hi Either right, Thomas, is

1168
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: he playing politics or is this principal?

1169
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 6: Well, I think it's both from Winston. I mean, you know,

1170
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 6: it's it's election year. Campaign has already started and Dylan

1171
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 6: First has already signaled before Verse that they're going to

1172
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 6: make immigration one of the issues of the elect But

1173
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 6: that's not new for Winston. It's a long hand, you know,

1174
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 6: long held ideal of his that he's been skeptical of

1175
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 6: immigration and skeptical of trade deals. He wasn't that keen

1176
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 6: on the trade deal with China back in O age,

1177
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 6: and he's been talking about immigration for forty years. So

1178
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 6: Winston can do both. He can play politics and occasionally

1179
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 6: have principles.

1180
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Speaker 2: What do you reckon, Eli, I mean, I know immigrations

1181
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: are quite a big deal in places like the UK

1182
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: and the US. Could he drum it up into something

1183
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 2: this year for US?

1184
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1185
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 14: Absolutely? And I think that this is this is his

1186
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 14: you know, this is his bread and butter, this is

1187
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 14: what he does. And I agree that it is obviously

1188
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 14: election year and so he's.

1189
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 3: Jumping on it.

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Speaker 14: But I think even if it wasn't election year, this

1191
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 14: is exactly what New Zealand First has always done. And

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00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 14: I don't entirely disagree with him. Actually, I think if

1193
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 14: the economy was stronger, I think if we did have,

1194
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 14: you know, enough proper classrooms, if we had a decent

1195
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 14: health system and so forth, then there could be an

1196
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 14: argument that our economy can handle additional people coming in.

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00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 14: So look, I think he's actually going to find quite

1198
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 14: a lot of people agreeing with him here. And I

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00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 14: don't think he's being entirely unreasonable.

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Speaker 2: Oh give it, Ellie, our economy will not fire up

1201
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: properly unless we have people to do the work that

1202
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: needs to be done. So how do you fire it

1203
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: up to take the migrants unless you have the migrants.

1204
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 14: Yeah, look, I agree with that, And I heard you

1205
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 14: ask him about that. What I've been confused about us.

1206
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 14: I heard a figure of sixteen hundred and seventy skilled

1207
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 14: workers were coming in.

1208
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, that's every year, right times by three

1209
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: pardon rights.

1210
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 14: And that's every year right. Well, look, and I think

1211
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 14: that's fair enough. But I still don't think that this government,

1212
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 14: the three parties, have done enough to actually you know,

1213
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 14: educate and bring people through into those roles that we

1214
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 14: need them in. I agree we need them now and

1215
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 14: that's important, but I think it's it's a balance and

1216
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 14: I'm concerned that the extra pressure it will put on

1217
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 14: the country.

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Speaker 2: Thomas, how do you feel about AA Insurance pulling out

1219
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: they say temporarily, of offering new policies in Westport?

1220
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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's are hard things but a good thing.

1221
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 6: You know, it's tough for Westports, for the community, you know,

1222
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 6: particularly if you know new bills aren't going to be

1223
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 6: able to happen or people can't get mortgages because it

1224
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 6: isn't insurance. That's really hard for the people of Westports.

1225
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 6: But it is a good thing. It shows that insurance

1226
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 6: markets are working and doing what they do. You know,

1227
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 6: the point of an insurance market is to place a

1228
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 6: price on risk. If they aren't pricing risk properly, then

1229
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 6: there's no point in having insurance at all. I think

1230
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 6: it's worth like observing that. It's not like flooding in

1231
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 6: Westport is a new thing. The whole town flooded within

1232
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Speaker 6: an inch of its life in nineteen twenty six, you know,

1233
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 6: one hundred years ago. So they're obviously seeing more risk

1234
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 6: now and AA have put a pause on it. And

1235
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 6: that's what an insurance market is supposed to do.

1236
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm going to get your take on it, Ali,

1237
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: when we come back from the break. It's sixteen away

1238
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: from six.

1239
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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name

1240
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: you can trust locally and globally.

1241
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: Right, you're back with the huddle, Alli Jones, Thomas Scrimger. Ali,

1242
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: what's you'll take on the Westport situation?

1243
00:57:58,520 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 3: Well?

1244
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 14: I don't agree actually with Thomas. This shows that insurance

1245
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 14: is working well. I think New Zealand has got one

1246
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 14: of the most poorly run and well it's definitely the

1247
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 14: most unregulated insurance sector in the world and it causes

1248
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 14: huge problems. We saw it in christ Church. But let's

1249
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 14: keep this in perspective too. This isn't a biggie. It's

1250
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 14: absolutely reasonable for an insurance company not to want to

1251
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 14: take on any more risk. That's common sense. And as

1252
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 14: you've said several times today, Heather, this is temporary, it's

1253
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 14: a pause. It's they're just not taking on any new policies.

1254
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 14: And it's not new. It happened here in christ Church

1255
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 14: after the quakes, that's happened in Wellington in the early

1256
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 14: two thousands. And you also said earlier ahead that if

1257
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 14: insurance won't cover your house, maybe your house is in

1258
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 14: the wrong place. And I totally agree with you on that,

1259
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 14: which is why not writing any new policies is totally

1260
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 14: different to pulling insurance that is already in place, that

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Speaker 14: that would be morally wrong.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, but I mean Ali, they may in fact

1263
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: price it to such an extent that you can't forward it,

1264
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: so you're priced out of the market anyway. But in

1265
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: that sense, then are you okay? Are you okay with

1266
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: us saying okay if your house, if you're in Westport

1267
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: and you can't get insurance from anyone, you're on your own,

1268
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: or do you want the government to step in there

1269
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: and say we'll look after you.

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Speaker 14: Well, I don't think that's even a question at the moment,

1271
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 14: because that's not happening. You've got this is just new policies, right,

1272
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 14: and I don't think that it is fair to just

1273
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 14: assume the next step is that they pull insurance completely.

1274
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 14: That happens very very rarely, if at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you reckon, Thomas? If we get to

1276
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: the stage where people are unable to obtain insurance insurance

1277
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: either because it's not an offer or it's priced out

1278
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 2: of their reache, what do we as a country.

1279
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Speaker 6: Though, Well, the thing what we need to do is

1280
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 6: send a long term signal so that people have predictability,

1281
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 6: because the problem is when people are expecting to get

1282
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 6: insurance and the rugg is pulled out from them, then

1283
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 6: they're left upper Creek without a paddle. But the reality

1284
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 6: is that there will be places that if flooding continues

1285
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 6: to be an issue, there will be places where it

1286
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 6: does not make sense to ensure because there will be

1287
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 6: flooded often. There's no way that we can continually say

1288
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 6: that there is an unlimited carte blanche you will be

1289
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 6: bailed out by the government. It's what there needs to

1290
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 6: be a sort of verbal signals followed by stable policy

1291
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Speaker 6: that is, yes, eventually the government cannot bail out every

1292
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Speaker 6: house that is subject.

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Speaker 2: Do you put a limit on it? Like so, I

1294
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: mean we're waiting for this adaptation document's going to come

1295
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: out later this year. And does the government then say,

1296
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: and I think this is an idea that was floated

1297
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Speaker 2: last year. In twenty years, that's the cutoff. We do

1298
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: not help you after that. You've got twenty years to

1299
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: sort it out. And if you're still living in a

1300
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Speaker 2: place where you should not be living and you can't

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Speaker 2: get insurance, you're on your own.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you know there's a time factor, and

1303
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 6: then there's an amount bailed out factor, whereas that you

1304
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 6: don't have to do after twenty years. That goes from

1305
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 6: one hundred percent to zero percent. It's that there's a

1306
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 6: phase out over time or we need to signal a

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Speaker 6: timeframes that if you can make decisions based on that

1308
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 6: and house prices can then reflect that reality that they

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Speaker 6: carry a lot of risk.

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Speaker 2: Ya Alie, do you lament the death of the doer upper?

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Speaker 14: That is really interesting, isn't it? Well is not very good,

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Speaker 14: as you know. And from this of these fats from

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Speaker 14: trade me, it says fifty one percent are happy with

1314
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Speaker 14: the door upper. Potentially it was only forty nine percent

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Speaker 14: that weren't.

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Speaker 2: No, it's one of the main six percent. It was

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Speaker 2: only six percent who were out there looking for a

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Speaker 2: fix up.

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Speaker 14: No, that's right, But that doesn't preclude people from looking

1320
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Speaker 14: for a place that does require some DIY. You know,

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01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 14: six percent looking for a door. But I think one

1322
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Speaker 14: of the issues is that people are not able to

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Speaker 14: do what our parents and our grandparents did.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 14: I remember my father wallpapering our hundred year old house

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Speaker 14: when we first moved in there. I think some people

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01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 14: don't even know how to open a tin of paint,

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Speaker 14: preparing wood to paint, replacing weather boards, you know. I

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01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 14: think that's one of the big issues here as well.

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Speaker 2: It's the last DIY that you did, Ellie.

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Speaker 14: Does gardening count No?

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01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: No, okay, what's going to have a drill or a

1333
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: hammer involved or something like that?

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01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 14: Oh, I put up a trell of summer beans could

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01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 14: grow up.

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01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: It's that bad. Take that old tape of gardening. K's

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01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 2: the gardening at Jason's as well.

1338
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Speaker 6: What about you, Thomas, Hey, the last thing I did

1339
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 6: was roll of paint, roll over some walls. Wasn't my house,

1340
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 6: it was my inlards. But you know, good son in

1341
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 6: law did some worked for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Other than that, haven't done a lot recently. I've you know,

1344
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Speaker 6: managed you're a bit of September lawn edging over the

1345
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 6: pasting years. But yeah, other than that.

1346
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Speaker 2: It's not bad. But like what there's a theme here.

1347
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: It's it's stuff that you guys are handier outdoors with

1348
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: the DIY, like in the garden than you are inside

1349
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: the house. Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, but you see, my husband's a builder, so you don't.

1351
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 14: I've kind of well, I don't need to. He does

1352
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 14: all that and he's done bathrooms and all that sort

1353
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 14: of stuff, So he does the inside. I don the outside.

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Speaker 17: I know.

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Speaker 2: That's fair enough. Okay, Thomas, were you surprised to find

1356
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 2: out that the most dangerous time on the road is

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01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: on a Tuesday morning in September or August between the

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01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 2: hours of seven and eight in the morning.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it was certainly an interesting bit of I

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01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 6: guess trivia. The time of year I thought was particularly interesting,

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01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 6: So you know, I might just take that on even

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01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 6: and go on a long holiday at that time of year.

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01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: But I think it's one of these things that it's

1365
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 6: sort of quite an emotional fact, the idea that it's

1366
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 6: dangerous when the school commute happens, and so people latch

1367
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 6: onto that. But I think, you know, thinking about road tolls,

1368
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 6: the more interesting fact is that we're about the lowest

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01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 6: road toll in the last one hundred years when you

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Speaker 6: were just for population. So road safety isn't something that

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Speaker 6: I spend a lot of time worrying about because I

1372
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 6: think we're actually in a really good place to wait

1373
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 6: till you.

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01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: Have children, mate, wait till you have am I right, Alie,

1375
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: wait till you have children.

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01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1377
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: About it like crazy.

1378
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 14: Absolutely, My boy slid under a ute on one of

1379
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 14: the main roads up here when he was on his motorbike,

1380
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 14: you know, last year, and it was the biggest issue

1381
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 14: is congestion, lack of enforcement, red light running, We get

1382
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 14: that round our area. But yeah, I think Thomas is right.

1383
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 14: I think this is an interesting bit of trivia time

1384
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 14: of year and driver.

1385
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 2: Well, you guys say it's trivia, but I'm just going

1386
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,959
Speaker 2: nowhere on a Tuesday between in August and September, between

1387
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 2: the hours of seven and eight of them, I'm just

1388
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 2: going to stay put. Saved my own life. Guys. It's

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Speaker 2: lovely to talk to you. Thank you so much. Thomas Scrimger,

1390
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,479
Speaker 2: Allie Jones a huddle this evening eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: on my Hard Radio powered by News talk Z Eppie.

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Speaker 2: Heather, with the greatest of respect to Winston Peters. I

1394
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 2: can't trust him. The just announced trade deal with India

1395
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 2: has to be applauded as a defining achievement for the government.

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Speaker 2: It's just plain disgusting that Peters won't support it. Look,

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Speaker 2: I Bob, thank you, Bob. I am I cannot. I'm

1398
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 2: not angry at Winston because I was not expecting anything else,

1399
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: will you though, I mean, it's just got everything that

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01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 2: Winston loves and foreigners, you know, generally like kick to

1401
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 2: the foreigners. So there's that. It's and you know you

1402
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: just and trade deal, well, he just loves it and secrecy.

1403
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's got everything, and so he's gonna,

1404
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: he's just gonna, he's just gonna scoop up a whole

1405
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 2: lot of people who are legitimately concerned about too much migration,

1406
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of people who just don't like migrants

1407
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: in general, bunch of conspiracy theorists to you know, like

1408
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 2: to don't trust authorities to scoop them all up there.

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01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: So anyway, I wasn't expecting anything better, but I do

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01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,479
Speaker 2: think actually Todd McClay should be applauded for this, having

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01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 2: done it by We remember back in the day, we

1412
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: were like, well, lux and you're never going to be

1413
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: able to do it in the first term, you're dreaming, mate,

1414
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 2: Well they did it in the first two years. That

1415
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 2: is incredible. So anyway, applaud it to Todd McLay for that.

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01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 2: There is apparently, and I'm getting a lot of texts

1417
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 2: on this, there is apparently some talk about I don't know,

1418
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 2: there's a podcast or something out there that suggests that

1419
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: there's like an unlimited that the Free Trade Deal allows

1420
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:37,919
Speaker 2: an an unlimited number of Indian students. That apparently comes

1421
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 2: from the fact that the Indian government has said that

1422
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 2: the FTA removes numerical caps on Indian students. Todd McClay

1423
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 2: reckons there's already no cap on the number of students

1424
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: who can come to New Zealand. So and I think

1425
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: he might be right, but just scratching the recesses, just

1426
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: getting back in there in the back of my brain,

1427
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: I feel like what we did was we didn't put

1428
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: a cap on the students. We just scratched a whole

1429
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,439
Speaker 2: bunch of those like really stud courses that a bunch

1430
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 2: of students were doing, and so thereby essentially reducing the

1431
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: number of students. Anyway, that seems to be a bit

1432
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: of alternative facts in the podcast. Listen, there's an end

1433
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 2: of an era that we need to discuss here quickly.

1434
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 2: PGG writes and is ending its wall auctions in Napier

1435
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 2: after more than one hundred and forty years. They've been

1436
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 2: running the things in Napier since eighteen eighty and finally

1437
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 2: calling an end to it. It's just not enough wall

1438
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 2: to justify it. So we're going to have Jamie McKay

1439
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 2: talking us through that shortly, and Simon's squib if you

1440
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 2: come across he is in New Zealand. I can't tell you.

1441
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: I think he's in the Wykattow today. I'm probably not

1442
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 2: supposed to tell you that. But if you are in

1443
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 2: the Wykatto and you come across Simon's squib you might

1444
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: be able to convince him to give you twenty five

1445
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: pounds so you can basically make your dream come true.

1446
01:06:47,200 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 16: Him next, keeping track of where the money is flowing

1447
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 16: for the business hour with Heather duple, Cy Allen and

1448
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 16: Ma's Insurance and Investments.

1449
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Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands us talk Zvy.

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01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: Evening. Coming up in the next hour. One hundred and

1451
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: forty years plus of wool auctions in Napier and it's

1452
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: now over. Jamie McKay will talk us through that. Sam

1453
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: Dickey on Meta impressing with their results and Endebrady is

1454
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 2: with us out of the UK at seven past six now.

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01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: Simon Squibb is known for one simple question, what's your dream?

1456
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: That's what he asks. He's a British entrepreneur who asks

1457
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 2: people this when he meets them on the street, and

1458
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 2: if he likes the answer they give, then he gives

1459
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: them twenty five thousan pounds to make their dreams come true.

1460
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: He's got millions of followers on social media, and we've

1461
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: discovered he's in New Zealand because we spotted a video

1462
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: on his install where he meets a chef in a

1463
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 2: rebby were a cafe than good?

1464
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 12: I need to speak to the chef's going to get

1465
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 12: the chapeau read Yes, thank you so much. This pastor

1466
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 12: is the best past I've ever had in my life.

1467
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 9: You are so talented.

1468
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 14: I watch the dream I want to.

1469
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 2: I'd like to help you try and make it happen, right,

1470
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: So we watched it. We got in touch with Simon

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01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 2: Squab asked him, if you're in New Zealand, can you

1472
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 2: come on the show? He said, yes, Simon, welcome.

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01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 9: It's great to be here.

1474
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 2: Simon. Why are you in the country. Have you come

1475
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 2: here with a view to handing out dollars?

1476
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, kind of.

1477
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 12: I have family that live in Auckland, so primarily here

1478
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 12: to visit the family.

1479
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 2: And so you're sore. You're actually here on a family visit,

1480
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 2: but you're still doing your thing where you hand out

1481
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand.

1482
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 9: I can't help it.

1483
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 12: I love hearing people's dreams and so there's no holiday

1484
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 12: from helping people that need it and so yeah, I

1485
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 12: have actually now helped four people in New Zealand with

1486
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 12: their dreams, which is pretty exciting. And yeah, it's part

1487
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 12: of my life. I don't have work life balance. I

1488
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 12: just have life. So I like my work and I

1489
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 12: like my life, so I mix them together.

1490
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 2: Now, Simon. The club that we play just before is

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01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: a chef who you love. You were you were eating

1492
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 2: pasta in a place in Auckland. Loved the pastor so

1493
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 2: much asked for the chef said to the chef, you

1494
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: want to make her dream come true. She wants to

1495
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: buy the restaurant that she works in, which is for sale.

1496
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: Has she bought it? Because you haven't delivered that clip yet.

1497
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 2: Has she bought it?

1498
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 17: So?

1499
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 12: The clip is out in a minute. And shall I

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01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 12: Shall I let everyone go watch it?

1501
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 3: Or shall I?

1502
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 9: Shall I break that?

1503
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 6: Man?

1504
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 2: I can't wait. You've got to tell me.

1505
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 12: I don't want to ruin it for everyone, though they

1506
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 12: might might like watching the whole story.

1507
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 2: Ah No, you've got to tell me. I've got to

1508
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: know all.

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01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 9: Right, all right?

1510
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 12: The short answer is that Pink Boccoley is alive in Auckland.

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01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 12: It's now hers.

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01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 2: This is what she wanted to call her a restaurant

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01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 2: pink Broccoli, and so she's exactly, mate, can you I mean,

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Speaker 2: you must be aware of how life changing. Like there's

1515
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 2: a woman who just randomly cooks you a pasta in

1516
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 2: someone else's cafe, you come and eat it. Now she

1517
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 2: owns her own place. It's amazing.

1518
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 12: It's his fate though. So the backstory is I went

1519
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 12: there with my family for breakfast. I'm staying nearby an airbnb,

1520
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 12: and I just went there for breakfast, totally random. And

1521
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 12: then because you know in the clips, we can't show

1522
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 12: every detail because it's too much, but she popped out

1523
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 12: and said, oh, hello, I'm such a big fan of yours.

1524
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 12: I bought your book. We just released the book in

1525
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 12: New Zealand. So she brought the book and she said

1526
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 12: I love it and I have a dream. I was like, oh,

1527
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 12: thank you so much. And then the bell went off

1528
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 12: and she had to go into the kitchen and start

1529
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 12: cooking again. And so I was just talking. I'm like, oh,

1530
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,560
Speaker 12: this is amazing. There's a fan here. That's so sweet.

1531
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 12: And then we said, oh, why don't we pretend to

1532
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 12: complain about the food, which is kind of the worst

1533
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 12: thing you can do. With a fan who's a chef,

1534
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 12: you complain about their food, right, that sounds like the

1535
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 12: worst thing you could do. But the food was amazing,

1536
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 12: so it was the opposite to a complaint, as we

1537
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 12: saw in the video. And so so then I basically

1538
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 12: didn't actually hear her full dreams. I said, what's your dream?

1539
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 12: She tells me it's to own her own cafe one day,

1540
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 12: called Pink Broccoy, And it just got me the name

1541
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 12: just instantly. When I hear someone's thought about it that much,

1542
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 12: I know it has to become a reality. And then

1543
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 12: she told me that the cafe that she's working in

1544
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 12: is actually for sale, which again it's just fate. And

1545
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 12: I'm like, well, why don't why don't you buy it?

1546
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: She's like, well, I.

1547
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 12: Haven't got any money. I can't buy it. And I'm like,

1548
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 12: we have to fix this. You know, I'm visualizing in

1549
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 12: my head this branding Pink Broccoli. It has to happen.

1550
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 12: The food's amazing, she's amazing. She just doesn't have any

1551
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 12: money to kind of make the dream and reality, and

1552
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 12: so I fine, it's my obligation to help make it happen.

1553
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 12: So I had to put the money up to buy

1554
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 12: the cafe and see Pink Bockley coming life.

1555
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 2: Okay, so what do you do? What'sn't it for you?

1556
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: Do you do? You take a stake in it?

1557
01:11:55,479 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 12: I take absolutely nothing. I don't do invest in businesses.

1558
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 12: Is one of the things I do is I invest

1559
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 12: in businesses and I take equity stakes in businesses. So,

1560
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 12: for example, I've invested in a business called Lovable, which

1561
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 12: is actually a six billion US dollar company right now

1562
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 12: that I invested in early. And you know, so I

1563
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 12: do invest in businesses and take equity stakes, but that's

1564
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 12: a tech company. It's very scalable. I don't want to

1565
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 12: take a dreamer's business. I'm not a dragon on dragons

1566
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 12: then or a shark on sharks tank. I just if

1567
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 12: I can help someone with a little bit of money,

1568
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 12: a little bit of marketing, a little bit of love,

1569
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 12: a little bit of support, a little bit of business knowledge.

1570
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 12: You know, in reality, it's not huge money. I've made

1571
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:37,799
Speaker 12: a lot of money in my life. I've been very lucky,

1572
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 12: and so it's just giving back, you know. And I

1573
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 12: do it because I enjoy it, and that's a selfish thing.

1574
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 12: I really enjoy hearing people's dreams and then finding a

1575
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 12: way to make it happen. But I also was fifteen

1576
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 12: months and tried to start a business and didn't have

1577
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 12: any money, didn't have any help, and it was so hard,

1578
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 12: and so I vowed, when I make it in life,

1579
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 12: I'll give back. And this is what this is. Really,

1580
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 12: It's just like helping that fifteen year old me. If

1581
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 12: you're talking to a psychiatrist, that's what they'd say, and

1582
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 12: that's what it is really.

1583
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 2: So how do people You know, if somebody was like, geez,

1584
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 2: I just need to come across Simon Scrub's radar and

1585
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 2: it will change my life, how did they do that?

1586
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 12: Well, first thing I would say is most of the

1587
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 12: time people's dreams they can make happen if they stop

1588
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 12: making excuses. So, you know, people do make a lot

1589
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 12: of excuses. They self sabotage themselves. So just check do

1590
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 12: you really need Simon scrib because a lot of the

1591
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 12: time you don't. And so I think that's important. I

1592
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 12: don't want people to wait for, you know, a hero

1593
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 12: to come along and save you. You have to save yourself.

1594
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 12: You have to take agency over your life. So look,

1595
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 12: if you want, if you want to get my attention,

1596
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 12: it's it's very simple, follow your dream and tell the

1597
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 12: world about it.

1598
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 9: At some point we'll cross paths.

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01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 12: I have set up a double of dreams in a

1600
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 12: couple of locations around the world where you can go

1601
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 12: press a button and pitch your dream, and then we

1602
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 12: upload it and try and help people. You can go

1603
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 12: on a platform I built which costs you absolutely nothing

1604
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 12: to use it called dot com.

1605
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:02,879
Speaker 9: You go there, you tell your dream.

1606
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 12: And there's three hundred thousand entrepreneurs on there ready to

1607
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 12: try and help you for free. So yes, you can

1608
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 12: bump into me in the street, or you know, I

1609
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 12: can bump into you. That's another way. But I always

1610
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 12: tell people a lot of the reason I do this

1611
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 12: is to not just help the person in the video,

1612
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,799
Speaker 12: but to help someone watching the video realize how easy

1613
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 12: it actually is to make your own dream and reality

1614
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 12: and stop making excuses.

1615
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 3: Just go for it.

1616
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: Brilliant, It is so nice to talk to you. Enjoy

1617
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: you stay here and yeah, thanks for making the time

1618
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 2: for us, not at all.

1619
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 12: Thank you for doing a story and giving a shout

1620
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 12: out to the amazing dreamer. Go there and eat. You

1621
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 12: will love the food.

1622
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 2: Simon, Thank you very much. Simon Squibb Investor Influence and

1623
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: dream Maker in New Zealand. At the moment quarter past six.

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01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: It's the Hither doople see Alan Drive Full Show podcast

1625
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio empowered by news dog Zippy.

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01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 2: Hither. That was just the best Simon squib is the

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01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 2: bes knees all the best of pink broccoli. I'll be

1628
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 2: booking it. I mean, the guy's got just an amazing

1629
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 2: amount of positivity. A if you could bottle that, our

1630
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 2: economy would absolutely be flying. It's eighteen pass six. Jamie mckaye,

1631
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 2: host of the Countries with Us, Hello, Jamie.

1632
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 3: Good a header.

1633
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 2: So we've been speaking about insurance on the show and

1634
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: there's a huge insurance payout for the South Island.

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01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 24: Yeah yeah, yeah those storms you might remember the big

1636
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 24: winds that lash Southland, Otago and Canterbury. Well, the country's

1637
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 24: biggest largest rural insurer is FMG. It's the second most

1638
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 24: claims for an event that they've paid out on their

1639
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 24: one hundred and twenty year history. So they've paid out

1640
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 24: twenty million. They expect the figure to rise to about

1641
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 24: fifty million. They've got five thousand claims lodged, about half

1642
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 24: of those are now settled and obviously the only event

1643
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 24: resulting in more claims was the Auckland Anniversary floods and

1644
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 24: cyclone Gabrielle and twenty twenty three. Now where farmers have

1645
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 24: come on stuck away. That is what's covered and what's

1646
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 24: not a number of farmers have discovered to their own

1647
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 24: cost in the wake of the storm that their insurance

1648
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 24: did not cover damaged fencing or fallen trees. And the

1649
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 24: fencing one with the trees is a bit of a

1650
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 24: double edged sword because what happened there heather trees, literally

1651
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 24: whole plantations of shouterbouts got blown over. Obviously they smashed

1652
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 24: the fences on the shelter or the side that they

1653
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 24: fell on, but they also with the roots upended the

1654
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,799
Speaker 24: fence on the other side, so you've got two fences

1655
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 24: completely destroyed, stock running everywhere. It's been a real nightmare.

1656
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 24: The other big insurer in this country is AIG. They've

1657
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 24: had five thousand claims as well. The majority of theirs

1658
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 24: were in Otago and South And here's a good stat

1659
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 24: for you. A log and contractor in the Kluther district,

1660
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 24: that's the Belkluther area said there were more than one

1661
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 24: hundred and fifty thousand tons of trees still on the

1662
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 24: ground at private properties three months on from the storm. Horrendous.

1663
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 2: There's a lot. Now what do you make of the

1664
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:58,839
Speaker 2: end of the wool auctions in Napia.

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01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 24: I just think it's probably inevitable. They for years we've

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01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 24: had North and South Island auctions. Well, PGG Rights, in

1667
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 24: the country's biggest wall broker, has decided to centralize them

1668
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 24: all in christ Church. They've been having wall auctions in

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01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 24: Napier since the year eighteen eighty when the company's previous

1670
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 24: owner PGG Right, since previous owner Williams and Kettle, held

1671
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 24: its first Napier auction. So what they're doing now is

1672
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 24: they're concentrating at all on christ Church. So and for

1673
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 24: the reason they've chosen christ Church over Napier, international buyers

1674
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 24: get ready access to an international airport. Obviously christ Church

1675
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 24: wall would continue to be scoured and stored in Napier,

1676
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 24: remembering there's a big scouring plant up there, but samples

1677
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 24: would be shipped down to christ Church for the sales

1678
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 24: so the buyers could do the touch and feel and

1679
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 24: see with the wall samples. Now pgg's head of Wool,

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01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 24: Rachel Scherer, what a great that is. Rachel said the

1681
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 24: amount of sharable sheep in the world and in New

1682
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 24: Zealand is at a record low. Volumes that are coming

1683
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 24: forward to be traded are also at a record low.

1684
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 3: Remembering to Heather.

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01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 24: That in the nineteen fifties, wall, particularly strong wool, was

1686
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 24: our biggest exporter export earner. Look where it is now.

1687
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 24: So you know, the sheep numbers in this country are

1688
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 24: continuing on downwards. They were six million million fewer in

1689
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 24: the past decade. The decade they've fallen twenty one percent

1690
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 24: to just twenty three point six million sheep in this country.

1691
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 24: We used to have over seventy million of them. So

1692
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 24: there you go. That's the wall industry at the moment.

1693
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 24: The good news is here that the good news is

1694
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 24: that wall prices have risen consistently something like about thirty

1695
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 24: percent in the past year off the back of this

1696
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 24: low supply, and threefold since the downturn of the COVID

1697
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 24: lows of twenty twenty one.

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01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Hey, thank you very much, as always appreciated, Jamie.

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01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,560
Speaker 2: We'll talk to again next week. Jamie mckaie, Hosts of

1700
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: the Country. It's funny when people's names are relevant to

1701
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 2: their jobs. A sharer working in wooll that's funny. There's

1702
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 2: a brewer Chap called Brewer who's one of he's in

1703
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 2: charge of one of the lobbying. Lobbying outfits for alcohol

1704
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,440
Speaker 2: brings me no end of joy. Business confidence has rebalanced

1705
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 2: a little bit. I'm like, this sounds worse than it is,

1706
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 2: so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna rain you through

1707
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 2: the bad stuff and then explain it.

1708
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: Right.

1709
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 2: So business confidence has come back. This is according to

1710
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 2: the A and Z Business Outlook, it's really high. In

1711
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 2: December it was at seventy three point six. Now it's

1712
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 2: dropped down to sixty four point one. Now that sounds

1713
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 2: worse than it is. Sixty four point one is still

1714
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 2: very strong. And in December it was ridiculous like it

1715
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 2: was a thirty year high and nobody believed that, which

1716
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 2: basically everybody just like ittching to go on holiday and

1717
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 2: feeling awesome about the summer. However, expected own activity has

1718
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 2: come back slightly as well, drop nine points at fifty two.

1719
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 2: Still historically high. So nothing to worry about there. The

1720
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 2: only thing that's that is worth worrying about in these numbers,

1721
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 2: I think probably is the inflation indicator. That's lifted. Net

1722
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 2: percent of firms expecting to raise prices in the next

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Speaker 2: three years has lifted five points to fifty six point five.

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Speaker 2: That is the highest read since March twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Six twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour

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01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 1: with Heather Duper c Allen and Mas, Insurance and Investments,

1728
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Speaker 1: Your Futures in good Hands, Used talks, I'd be.

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Speaker 2: Here, the Simon Squib the most uplifting positive story I've

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Speaker 2: heard in a while. Thank you, welcome hither. I don't

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Speaker 2: can can we know the name of the restaurant so

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Speaker 2: we can go and try the amazing past Now do

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Speaker 2: you know what I don't actually hold on to me

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Speaker 2: write this down for your past our restaurant. I don't

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01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: know the name of the restaurant myself, but Sam, the

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Speaker 2: producer who has been was it now our ants knows.

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01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 2: So all the producers are like, this isn't I would

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Speaker 2: be And I work with all these thank you ants.

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01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 2: I've worked with all these amazing people who just like

1740
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 2: they are like Encyclopedia, you just asked them a question,

1741
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 2: They're just answer the question for you, just like that,

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01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 2: Which is why you think that I am the reason

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01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 2: that the show sounds slick, But actually I'm not. It's

1744
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 2: actually them telling me what to say all of the time.

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01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 2: Listen mess her. I'm just making an assumption that you

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01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 2: think the show sounds slicky. May not. Maybe maybe sitting

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01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 2: there going No, No, that's not that's not the word there.

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Speaker 25: Thanks, there's not going to blame us, Yep.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not the word that comes to mind when

1750
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: when when I listen to your show, either Sam Dicky's

1751
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 2: going to be there shortly. Messa has put out some

1752
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 2: impressive results today. It's just blown the market away. So

1753
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 2: he'll talk us through that. Six twenty six.

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01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

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Speaker 15: By Anna conduct by Anna conduct my Anna conduct.

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01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: Don't want none unless you've got Mackey manage in trouble again.

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01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 2: You remember she went all mega. She's doubling down now.

1758
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 2: The singer, if you can call her a singer, was

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01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: invited onto stage by Donald Trump during a rally.

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Speaker 11: I am probably the President's number one fan and that's

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01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 11: not going to change. And the head or where people

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Speaker 11: have to say it does not affect me at all.

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Speaker 2: Now when she talks about hate, there was a lot

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01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 2: of hate up until recently, Nicki was intensely pro Trump

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01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 2: and a fierce advocate for migrant rights and LGBT rights,

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Speaker 2: and all that seems to have just changed in the

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01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: past year, and fans have been wondering what happened. Some

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01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 2: lifelong fans think the answer is obvious.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't know.

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Speaker 15: Nicki Minaj came here illegally. She has spoken out against

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Speaker 15: deportation and families being torn apart in the past, and

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Speaker 15: now she's standing ten tolls behind Trump, who's doing exactly

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Speaker 15: all that. Thanks to her newfound support for the president,

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01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 15: he gave her a Gold card, which helps you become

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Speaker 15: a citizen faster.

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01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: So other fans are theorizing that Nicki is seeking a

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Speaker 2: presidential partner for her husband, who has convictions for sexual assault.

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01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 2: Some are calling for Nicki Minaj to check the pipes

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Speaker 2: in her house in case she has a gas link.

1780
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 2: But the lesson to learn here is that when someone

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Speaker 2: calls themselves the female Kanye West, maybe they really are

1782
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 2: the female Kanye West, and it's not just a you know,

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01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 2: just not not just a turn a phrase. After all. Anyway,

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01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 2: on Golf News, because you should probably know this, Patrick

1785
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 2: Red is now doing the same thing as Brooks kept

1786
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 2: care and he's quitting go back to the PGA full time.

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01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 2: So those of us, and I'm pointing my fingers right

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01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 2: at myself right now, they were like, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be fine for the rugby, the Saudi back rugby, because

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01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: the Saudi back golf is going great guns. We might

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01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:21,799
Speaker 2: just have to eat our words.

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Speaker 22: News is next, My anna, conduct, my anna conduct.

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Speaker 17: Don't want none unless you've got buns on.

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01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mas Insurance

1796
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: and Investments, Your futures in good hands? Used talks, dB.

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Speaker 3: Did you taking me?

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Speaker 1: Would you know?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 2: The news out of the UK today is that car

1802
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 2: production over there has slumped to a seven to three

1803
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 2: year low. So Indo Brady will talk us through it

1804
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: when he's with us in just a few minutes time.

1805
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 2: Right now, it's twenty four away from seven. The US

1806
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 2: results season is in full swing, got two of the

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01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 2: big ones, Meta and Microsoft reporting just in the last

1808
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 2: few hours, and obviously across what it means for investors

1809
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 2: is Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds, who is with us now.

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Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Sam, happy new y here there, welcome back. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Mat.

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Speaker 2: Now give give me the highlights of what you think

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01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 2: you saw the results for both of these companies.

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Speaker 26: Definitely two contrasting fortunes. So Meta's share price was up

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01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 26: six percent after market earlier today and Microsoft's was down

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01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 26: six percent, and a couple of themes or reasons there.

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01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 26: Both companies revenue beat the expectations, and that's been an

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01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 26: ongoing theme really for the past couple of years. These

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01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 26: companies are either taking market share or growing the size

1821
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 26: of their market in cloud, compute, advertising, or software. And

1822
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 26: a lot of that growth has been supercharged by AI,

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01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 26: which brings me to the cost to generate that revenue,

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01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 26: and that was the primary reason why there was a

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01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,799
Speaker 26: disparity in the performance. So both companies are being increasing

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01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 26: their capital expenditure recently in recent quarters and sorry rapidly

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01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 26: in recent quarters, and this quarter was no different. So

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01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 26: for context, we spoke about this last year. The year

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01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 26: ahead capex for both companies combined was expected to be

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01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 26: about one hundred and forty billion this time last year.

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Speaker 26: It's now expected to be two hundred and sixty billion.

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Speaker 26: And that eighty billion dollar increases largely on AI infrastructure

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01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 26: and chips. So in short, though Meta outperformed because it

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01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 26: beat revenue expectations by more. So both are spending an

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01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 26: accelerating amount, but Meta is on the face of it,

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01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 26: getting more return out of its spend.

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Speaker 2: And so what do you see as the key key

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01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:36,839
Speaker 2: themes from these results.

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01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 26: I think it's what we talked about last week, I

1840
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 26: talked about with Ryan. Is a key risk for investors

1841
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 26: to watch in twenty twenty six is big tech companies

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01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 26: in the US and no longer being given a blank

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01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 26: check by the market to spend on AI chips and

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01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 26: infrastructure at any cost. So they have to show accelerating revenue,

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01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 26: or said another way, they have to justify the massive

1846
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 26: dollars been invested by showing a decent return on that spend.

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01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 26: And we've got Google and Amazon next week that will

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01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 26: be extremely closely watched. And indeed, any company that is

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01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,719
Speaker 26: just deploying capital at scale into AI must start showing

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01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 26: a return.

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01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: Do you think that this gives any insight into what

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01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 2: we can use for the rest of the earning season.

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Speaker 26: I think that we are another wrinkle actually, on top

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01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 26: of keeping an eye on how much these guys are

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01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 26: returning on that massive capex. Is open Ai, which is

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01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 26: the company bhyin and chat GPT, as we know, is

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01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 26: quite out of favor. And remember last year we talked

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01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 26: about the disconnect between the fifteen to twenty billion of

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01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 26: revenue that open ai generates and the more than one

1860
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 26: trillion dollars of AI infrastructurability they've committed to. So anything

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01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 26: associated with that has been under pressure. Oracle share prices

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01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 26: down fifty percent, and remember they had committed to spend

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01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 26: huge amounts to house open AI's chips and Microsoft today

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01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 26: open ai accounts for about forty five percent of their

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01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 26: pipeline of business and their massive cloud operation. So in

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01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 26: vestas are a bit twitchy and they're saying are open

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01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 26: Ai good for it? So anyone associated with open Ai

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01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 26: during this earning season should be watched closely.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting. Hey Sam, as always, it's lovely to talk

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01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 2: to you mate. We'll talk to you next week. Look

1871
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 2: after yourself. That is Sam Dickey Fisher funds right now

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01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: twenty away from seven together for cl Heather Our kids

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01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 2: primary school starts Wednesday next week. That's a slot, gay.

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Speaker 2: That's some people are doing a hardest. Log I mean

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01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 2: that's what is that that's coming back Wednesdays the fourth

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01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 2: Is it the fourth fourth of February. Some some kids

1877
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 2: are only going back ninth of February. But you know,

1878
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: like power do your man care, kah. Anyway, our kids

1879
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 2: primary school starts Wednesday next week compared to most which

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01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 2: start Monday, which is very annoying. And then to top that,

1881
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 2: we have just received an email from the school that

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01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 2: they will be holding a teacher's only date two weeks

1883
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,600
Speaker 2: afterwards for a professional learning and development day focused on

1884
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: the new mathematics curriculum. That was annoying because they've had

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01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 2: all of this week to do that, or even the

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01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: days before Wednesday. While we're struggling to manage working kids

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01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 2: at home, they enjoy the longest time away. It's not

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01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 2: a good start to twenty twenty six in my mind now.

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01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 2: I mean, look, honestly, I love a teacher because a

1890
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 2: teacher teaches the children, and you know, some of them

1891
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 2: are doing some good work there. But Lord, if they

1892
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 2: think that we cannot see through this little rule, we

1893
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 2: absolutely can do you remember, Actually, I've got to say

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01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 2: this first. I don't want to harp on about a thing,

1895
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 2: but as if you know me. You know I love

1896
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,560
Speaker 2: to harp on. You will be an agreement with my

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01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 2: husband on that. But I'm going to harp on about

1898
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 2: this thing. Okay, did you see the latest on the

1899
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 2: fees free year of university? Which is that yet more

1900
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: proof if you needed more proof, if you weren't already convinced,

1901
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 2: yet more proof that it doesn't work. The Heralds run

1902
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 2: a story today. It came out this morning, shows that

1903
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 2: it did not lift the number of disadvantaged kids going

1904
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 2: to UNI, which was the whole point of the thing

1905
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 2: in the first place. Only two hundred and thirty students

1906
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 2: from low income areas went to university in twenty twenty four.

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01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 2: Two hundred and thirty. That things us. I mean, what

1908
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 2: is it? Like the numbers fluctuate, but we're talking somewhere

1909
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 2: in the vicinity of but like a quarter of a

1910
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 2: billion dollars right, quarter of a billion dollars for two

1911
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty students from poorer areas. Get rid of it.

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01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 2: I mean, like we know that it's and this is

1913
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 2: what this is the thing I think, this is this

1914
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:22,759
Speaker 2: is the thing that is just going to bug Nicola

1915
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 2: if she doesn't have the courage to get Ris. We understand,

1916
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 2: just Cinda can't do the maths, so she'd go like, oh,

1917
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifteen million dollars to get two hundred

1918
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 2: and thirty children to schold and that's got No, it's not.

1919
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 2: But we expect better of Nikola, and Nicholas had two

1920
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 2: years to cut it. She's got her third budget coming up.

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01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 2: She said to me she's going to talk last time

1922
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 2: I talked to her last year said she's going to

1923
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 2: talk to Winnie p about it. So hopefully between the

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01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 2: two of them have sort of that out and it'll

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01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 2: be gone in the next budget. We will see. I

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01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 2: will not hold my breath, but we will see. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember the boss of Starbucks? Most famous probably

1928
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 2: more Yeah, and I would say most famous actually for

1929
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 2: the jetting around the world. Do you remember that because

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01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 2: he signed up he signed on as the boss of Starbucks,

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01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 2: and Starbucks has famously been like climate friendly and making

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01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 2: a real effort to look after the climate and doing

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01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 2: all the woky stuff. And then he signs up as

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Speaker 2: the boss of Starbucks and just starts flying like these

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Speaker 2: enormous links to commute to it. He doesn't want to.

1936
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to move to where the headquarters are.

1937
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 2: He wants to live wherever it is that he lives

1938
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 2: San Diego or so, I can't remember. Anyway, So he's

1939
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 2: got the company's jet and he's flying these huge distances

1940
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 2: to get to work. They have learned nothing from all

1941
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 2: of the news coverage around that. When he first signed up,

1942
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 2: they used to have a cap on how much he

1943
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,719
Speaker 2: could fly. This is the company's jet. He was only

1944
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 2: allowed to spend something like two hundred and fifty thousand

1945
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 2: USD on flying around, and once he hit that he

1946
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 2: had to stop. They've now scrapped the cap. He can

1947
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 2: now use the jet just as much as he likes.

1948
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 2: They reckon what's happen. The reason for it is they've

1949
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 2: done a security review and the security review has recommended

1950
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 2: that he is able to just fly as much as

1951
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 2: he wants because he's got increased media attention, probably because

1952
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 2: he's flying around and they're are credible threat actors, and

1953
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 2: so now they go in to let him do it.

1954
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 2: They'll review it every three months months. But anyway, next

1955
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 2: time you see Starbucks say anything about the planet, just

1956
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 2: remember letting him fly that jit as much as he likes.

1957
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 2: Indo Brady's next sixteen away from seven.

1958
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: Crudging the numbers and getting the results. It's hither duper

1959
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Speaker 1: Cy Ellen on the Business Hour with MAS Insurance and investments,

1960
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: your futures in good heads US talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be hither add to that on the teachers that

1962
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 2: Friday next week is a holiday as well. Quite right, Actually,

1963
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 2: fourteen away from seven, Indo Brady are UK correspondents with us, Hello,

1964
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Speaker 2: da hey, have a great speak to you, right, So

1965
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:34,560
Speaker 2: Starmer's Mitch gi what happened.

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01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 9: Very positive actually, So there was a lot of kind

1967
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 9: of concern in advance because people here were saying, look,

1968
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 9: you need to go to China and spell out your

1969
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 9: concerns about the Hong Kong pro democracy leader who's in

1970
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 9: jail and is a British citizen, Jimmy Lai. And Starmer

1971
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,719
Speaker 9: was saying, well, we'll bring up whatever I want to discuss,

1972
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 9: but I'm not telling you about what. That was his

1973
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 9: message to the media in advance. But it seems to

1974
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 9: have gone very very well. Pictures though, are ready the

1975
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 9: two of them standing together. There was a banquet in

1976
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 9: the Great Hall and it was interesting what ge said.

1977
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 9: He heaped praise on Labor governments and said China has

1978
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 9: always worked better with labor governments. We've basically been in

1979
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 9: the ice age recently under the Conservatives with China, no

1980
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 9: relationship whatsoever. It's eight years since Teresa May was the

1981
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 9: last British Prime Minister to go to China. One little

1982
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,719
Speaker 9: curious thing I've discovered in the last twenty four hours

1983
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 9: which I find absolutely fascinating. The British Prime Minister and

1984
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 9: his entire entourage were given burner phones to take to China.

1985
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 9: They were concerned about snooping, hacking, surveillance, So no government laptops,

1986
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 9: no personal laptops, no work mobile phones, no government devices

1987
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 9: left the UK. They were all given burner mobile phones

1988
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 9: and burner laptops. So I don't know if Gee realized that,

1989
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 9: but that's how little they trusted Chinese.

1990
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Speaker 2: I mean that, Inda is I mean that is that

1991
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 2: will come as absolutely no surprise to New Zealand. New

1992
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 2: Zealander listening to you, every single time we seen a

1993
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 2: delegation over there, That's exactly what when we go over

1994
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,679
Speaker 2: there reasonably regularly. Do you think though, I mean, why

1995
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 2: that is probably more fascinating to you guys at the

1996
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 2: moment is because obviously you've had the revelation about the

1997
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 2: hecking of officials in Downing Street. Do you reckon that

1998
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 2: would have come up.

1999
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Speaker 9: I'm not sure. I think Starmer Pop probably didn't bring

2000
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 9: it up. He's not looking. He's not a kind of

2001
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 9: put up your fists and fight kind of guy. And

2002
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 9: I think there is a dawning realization on people in

2003
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 9: the UK now as to just post Brexit, how small

2004
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 9: this little island has become in a global world of trade.

2005
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 9: So I think this was all about He brought thirty

2006
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 9: CEOs with him, by the way, Rolls Royce CEO Jaguar

2007
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,560
Speaker 9: Landrover CEO just two of the thirty, So this is

2008
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 9: all about trade and somehow finding investment and growth and

2009
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 9: getting Britain moving again.

2010
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on with the carprat that it slumped

2011
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 2: so badly?

2012
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 9: So last year was a terrible year. It was the

2013
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 9: worst since what nineteen early nineteen fifties. Britain made just

2014
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 9: under eight hundred thousand vehicles, so lots of factors last year.

2015
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 9: Trump tariffs certainly did not help. And then we had

2016
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 9: a cyber attack on Jaguar land Rover in the Midlands

2017
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,799
Speaker 9: in Soli Hull, and that stopped production for about six weeks.

2018
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:27,759
Speaker 9: So at the time they had the cyber attack, incomes

2019
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,679
Speaker 9: Trump with the tariffs, and a lot of companies were thinking, well,

2020
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 9: you know, America is a big market. We don't really

2021
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 9: want to be putting all our stock over there in

2022
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 9: vehicles and fleets. And then the never ending curse of Brexit.

2023
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,600
Speaker 9: If you go back to twenty sixteen, the UK was

2024
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 9: making one point seven million vehicles, cars, vans, trucks, lorries

2025
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 9: going all over the world, seventy eight percent exported, and

2026
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 9: now it's falling away. And people were told this at

2027
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,719
Speaker 9: the time of Brexit, you vote to lead the European Union,

2028
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 9: you were going to kill the car in street in

2029
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 9: the United Kingdom. And they went ahead and did it anyway.

2030
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Speaker 2: Okay, now we've got It's historic, isn't it. The first

2031
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 2: lady Archbishop of Canterbury.

2032
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Speaker 9: Yeah, this is I think wonderful really for the c OFV.

2033
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 9: So we have Dame Sarah Mulally. She was formerly the

2034
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 9: Bishop of London. Before that, in a previous career and life,

2035
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 9: she was England's Chief nurse. So she's had an amazing

2036
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:28,680
Speaker 9: career of caring and looking after people. Already in the

2037
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 9: nursing profession and then she followed her faith, went into

2038
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 9: the Church of England, became our Bishop of London and

2039
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 9: now the first ever female Archbishop of Canterbury. The ceremony

2040
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 9: did not go without incident. There was a very loud

2041
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 9: male heckler during the ceremony in London who was quickly

2042
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 9: shut down. She has given an interview saying that she

2043
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:51,679
Speaker 9: will lead for all, she will be a voice against

2044
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 9: misogyny and just how proud she is and I wish her. Look,

2045
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 9: I think it's an amazing thing for the c OFV

2046
01:35:58,360 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 9: to now be led by a woman.

2047
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Speaker 2: So what was the heckling about. Was it because she's

2048
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 2: a lady?

2049
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2050
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 9: Exactly that, Yeah exactly that. Just yeah, you couldn't make

2051
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 9: it up. I mean in the house of God, some

2052
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 9: guys stood up and started runting. You just think, Wow,

2053
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 9: time and place.

2054
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 2: Go fulla too right, Hey Ender, thanks very much man.

2055
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:16,799
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again on Tuesday. You look after yourself.

2056
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Speaker 2: That's into Brady, a UK correspondent. A little bit of

2057
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Speaker 2: car news. Okay, actually I've got two pieces of car

2058
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,719
Speaker 2: news for you. So the first piece of car news

2059
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 2: is that Tesla has announced today they're killing, killing the

2060
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 2: Model X suv and the Model S full size sedan,

2061
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 2: and they're going to start winding down production next quarter

2062
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 2: because basically what they're doing is is that's they're moving

2063
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 2: away from being an EV company into a robotics company.

2064
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 2: So they want to use the factory in California that

2065
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 2: they use for the Model S and X to build

2066
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 2: the Optimus robot, which does lead me to question, if

2067
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 2: you've got a Tesla, how do you feel about that,

2068
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 2: because presumably if they're not making the vehicles and like

2069
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,600
Speaker 2: you completely give up on the vehicles, then all the

2070
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 2: tech support that you need for the like, do you

2071
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 2: feel confident you're going to get the tech support for

2072
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 2: the vehicles you need because you do. Yeah, you need

2073
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 2: all those like silly little updates that you get with

2074
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 2: all the stuff, don't you anyway. Second piece of car

2075
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 2: news is that the Toyota radf has been trying to

2076
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 2: do it for the longest time and it's finally done it.

2077
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,719
Speaker 2: It has beaten the Ford Ranger as the most popular

2078
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 2: vehicle in New Zealand. It managed to sell more than

2079
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 2: eleven thousand cars last year, whereas the Ranger sold only

2080
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 2: around about nine and a half thousand vehicles. Now the

2081
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 2: rad four. If you go about that, go and ever

2082
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 2: look at the last Rave four because it's not actually

2083
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 2: that bad looking. So I mean, I can't like not

2084
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 2: the beast sell on it, but it's actually not a

2085
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 2: bad looking car. I don't think that I would hate

2086
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 2: myself if I was sitting in it. Can I say?

2087
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 2: While we're on the subject of nice looking cars, that

2088
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 2: Toyota land Cruiser man alive. I for the longest time

2089
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta get me a yute, Gotta

2090
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 2: get me a yuke, Gotta get me a ute. But

2091
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 2: the other day I was like, gotta get me a

2092
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 2: Toyota land Cruiser. That is a sexy looking car. I'm

2093
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 2: really liking those chunky little things anyway, Life goals, Life goals. Hey,

2094
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 2: Toyota land Cruiser seven away from seven.

2095
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 1: It's the Heather Tioper Cee allan Drive full show podcast

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01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk ZBBI.

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Speaker 2: Heather, this is going back to the Okhams that we

2098
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 2: talked about a little while ago. Hither I really enjoyed

2099
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 2: Catherine Chigity. Honestly, that woman has Catherine Catherine c really

2100
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 2: unpronounceable surname. Book of Guilt. I enjoyed it too easy read,

2101
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 2: fascinating based on history and England. Go for it, Caro,

2102
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 2: thank you well. Do you know what I do? Love

2103
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 2: the history stuff. Eh, and I'll talk because I've started

2104
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 2: a series. I'll tell you about it some other time.

2105
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 2: A bit historical anyway. Do you know how yesterday we

2106
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 2: were talking about the Bigfoot sighting? What about this? According

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01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 2: to the Telegraph the NH And I'm telling you it's

2108
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:45,799
Speaker 2: the Telegraph, so that you know it's a reputable newspaper.

2109
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 2: It's not just like some random thing that I read

2110
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 2: on on social media. According to the Telegraph, the NHS

2111
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 2: in the UK called in exorcists because staff at a

2112
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 2: hospice in Norwich reported seeing the ghost of a little

2113
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 2: girl in a red dress one the corridors and stuff,

2114
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 2: and they were convinced it was because it used to

2115
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 2: be at children's hospital in the nineteen seventies and they

2116
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 2: were convinced it must have been a little girl for

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01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 2: reme who died and died in the hospital and was

2118
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 2: haunting them. So the NHS, if you didn't know that,

2119
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 2: think already they'd like completely lost the plot. They then

2120
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 2: called in the exorcists who are employed, and there are

2121
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 2: exorcists employed by the Church of England. And they came

2122
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 2: round and they sprinkled some oil and they blessed the place.

2123
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 2: Their lead was completely buried in the story. You cannot

2124
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 2: find evidence of whether it got rid of the little

2125
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 2: girl or not. But if you thought Bigfoot was cochi,

2126
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 2: I just beat it.

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Speaker 25: I reckon and ye can't wait to see what we

2128
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 25: do tomorrow. Clean By no Cigar to play us out tonight,

2129
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 25: So news out today there's going to be If you

2130
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 25: were at the ASP Classic recently and you were like, oh, man,

2131
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 25: I'd love to come back here, but exed instead go

2132
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 25: to a concert on the center court, well, good news

2133
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 25: you can. Bad Graders, the electro pop duo from Australia.

2134
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 25: They're coming over to play Center Court Sounds, which is

2135
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 25: going to happen at number one Tennis Lane in Auckland

2136
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 25: at the end of February. And Cigar, these guys are

2137
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 25: local rock band and Sachi, local electronic act. They'll be

2138
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 25: playing too.

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01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,639
Speaker 2: And do you recause this is different than your bag?

2140
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Speaker 2: Do you recommend?

2141
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 25: Oh, these guys aren't really such your bear Graders are

2142
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 25: both great though, But if you're into red hotch Lei

2143
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 25: peppers and stuff. These guys make very smart things.

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Speaker 2: You enjoy. Enjoy for that answer, right, see you tomorrow

2145
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 2: and you still Ziba.

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Speaker 17: We don't lose the way, don't lose them.

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