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Speaker 1: Kyoda.

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Speaker 2: I'm Chelsea Daniels and this is the Front Page, a

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Speaker 2: daily podcast presented by The New Zealand Herald.

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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Four Paris Olympics have come to an end, and what

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Speaker 2: a fortnight it's been for the New Zealand team. With

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Speaker 2: ten gold's, seven silver and three bronze, our athletes are

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Speaker 2: bringing home the most gold medals ever won in a

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Speaker 2: single Olympics and have.

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Speaker 1: Equalled our record set in Tokyo.

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Speaker 2: With the likes of Dame Lisa Carrington and Lydia Coe ensuring.

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Speaker 1: Their place in the history books.

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Speaker 2: To rising stars like Hamish Kerr, Elise Andrews and Finn Butcher,

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Speaker 2: there were plenty of Kiwi sporting stars in action. With

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Speaker 2: the Games now over and the four year journey to

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles twenty twenty eight already beginning for some.

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Speaker 1: We're recapping the Olympic highs and lows today on the front.

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Speaker 2: Page with Newstalk zb's sports reporter and gold sport commentator

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Speaker 2: Elliott Smith.

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Speaker 1: Elliott, let's start with the highlights.

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Speaker 2: If you had to pick just one kei we medal

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Speaker 2: to celebrate, which one would it be?

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Speaker 3: Well? Goodness, Chelsea coming in hot early on look, I

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Speaker 3: think for me it'd be the high jump of Hamish Kerr.

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Speaker 3: I think he overcame some issues in the qualifying and

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Speaker 3: then in the final just brought her out and was

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Speaker 3: so so good in that and the drama that came

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Speaker 3: in that with the jump off and everything like that.

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Speaker 3: You know, New Zealand's medals in the track and field

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Speaker 3: have been few and far between. You think of Valerie

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Speaker 3: Adams in recent times, Tom Walsh. But to win a

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Speaker 3: gold medal in something like the high jump I thought

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Speaker 3: was exceptional. And just the celebration, racing around Star de France,

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Speaker 3: around the turf and celebrating in that manner, that one

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Speaker 3: stands out to me. But trying to narrow it down

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Speaker 3: very very difficult. But I thought that was a pretty

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Speaker 3: special one from a New Zealand perspective.

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting, hey, because they both decided to the

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Speaker 2: jump off in the end, And I've seen some American

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Speaker 2: reports giving the American competitor some slack for being selfish,

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Speaker 2: whereas in Tokyo didn't they share the medal and then

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Speaker 2: got the same amount of slack.

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Speaker 3: That's right, I don't think you're gonna win. I think

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Speaker 3: that's always going to be a difficult conversation because some

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Speaker 3: people will go and like in Tokyo, oh, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's not really in the what is in the Olympic spirit,

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Speaker 3: but it isn't to have a shared gold medal. This

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Speaker 3: time around they didn't share it and there was a

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Speaker 3: distinct gold, distinct silver. I think for me, I thought

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Speaker 3: that was probably the way to go about it. You've

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Speaker 3: come this far, you're going to get the least silver anyway,

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Speaker 3: why not try and split it and go for the gold.

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Speaker 3: I thought it added extra drama, extra tension. Look, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure order being special for Hamish Cure if he shared

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Speaker 3: the gold medal, But in some ways sharing the gold's

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Speaker 3: almost like sharing a silver. It's not quite as distinct

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Speaker 3: as the two. Whereas with Hamish curR now he knows

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Speaker 3: he is the best high jumper in the world. He's

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Speaker 3: won the Olympic gold medal, He's not sharing it with

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Speaker 2: So Dame Lisa Carrington the goat in the boat with

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Speaker 2: eight golds. Now she's now ranked sixteenth of all time,

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Speaker 2: ahead of Usain Bolt.

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Speaker 1: The only New Zealander in the top one hundred.

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Speaker 4: Ready to race in the women's kayak for if they

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Speaker 4: can't see the finish line.

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Speaker 2: It is gold for.

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Speaker 4: New Zealand and the sixth Golden moment for Dame Lisa.

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Speaker 4: New Zealand's supposed to decorate an Olympian, Lisa Carrington strikes

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Speaker 1: Are we ever going to see another one like her?

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Speaker 3: I don't know that we will, and we should treasure

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Speaker 3: it for as long as her career lasts. Whether she

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Speaker 3: decides to go again for LA in four years time

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Speaker 3: or decides that that's enough, you wouldn't blame her either way.

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Speaker 3: If she decides that her eight gold medals is enough,

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Speaker 3: then ghepsolutely good on her. But the success that she's

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Speaker 3: K two and the K four, they wouldn't win without her.

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Speaker 3: She's like the motor right at the front of the boat.

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Speaker 3: She's so metronomic in the way that she gets in

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Speaker 3: without wanting to diminish their success as well. But she's

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Speaker 3: it while at last. And to think that she's been

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Speaker 3: on that success as in New Zealander and maybe try

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Speaker 2: Well, after she did her races, it looked like she

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. She definitely seems to FaZe that she's

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Speaker 3: she's like fresh as a daisy. It's remarkable that she

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Speaker 3: A lot of the competitors around and the clerking seem

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Speaker 3: a fifty to fifty call as to whether she competes again.

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Speaker 3: And LA certainly didn't close the door on that necessarily,

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Speaker 2: And I can see her hanging around the Olympics as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, I mean the competitors or the teammates

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Speaker 3: It was the flag bearer at the closing ceremony along

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Speaker 2: To come so Lydia Coe's gold gives her a complete

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Speaker 1: Her for the LGPA Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything else for her to do or she

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Speaker 2: basically just clocked her sport at twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: She's long talked about wanting to retire at the age

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Speaker 3: one major's, you know, when she was still very young.

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Speaker 2: And obviously we can't shout out absolutely everyone, but who

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Speaker 3: Oh look Alexandres was phenomenal and what a way to

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Speaker 3: Look, I think there's certainly some that were expected to

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Speaker 1: Hey, do we need to be.

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Speaker 2: Looking at funding more sports to build up bigger teams

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Speaker 3: Quite possibly. I mean, I think it's different with some

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Speaker 3: people interested. We're probably watching the Olympics as a start,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure there's krewek kids that are out there

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Speaker 3: wanting to try sport climbing as a result of the

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Speaker 3: two New Zealanders competing in the sport climbing. And I'm

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Speaker 3: sure it's the case for a number of sports out

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Speaker 3: there that you might see more doing the high jump

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Speaker 3: because of Hamish curve. Kids might want to track up

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Speaker 3: track cycling, which has druditionally got a different barrier into

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Speaker 3: it than going down and doing a bit of high

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Speaker 3: jump at the local athletics field. So you got to

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Speaker 3: find a way to open those doors for these athletes

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Speaker 3: and create the opportunities for them. It's very easy. From

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Speaker 3: a New Zealand school suspective and sports perspective, you know,

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Speaker 3: a lot of schools run rugby programs, they run athletics programs,

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Speaker 3: they run to an extent swimming programs as well. That's

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Speaker 3: more solid and clubs, so the programs are there. From

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Speaker 3: a high school perspective, primary school to high school, getting

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Speaker 3: kids into sport climbing is always going to be more

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Speaker 3: and more difficult, So I think you've got to find

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Speaker 3: ways to innovate and get players in. And that's the

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Speaker 3: basketball thing as well. It's on the world stage. New

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Speaker 3: Zealand's probably never going to win a gold medal and basketball,

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Speaker 3: but competing on a world stage seeing the New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: black singlet representing there, it would be very very key

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Speaker 3: in getting more kiwis into the sport as well. So

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Speaker 3: I think it's argument and a question that never quite

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Speaker 3: has a complete answer, and I think you know, there's

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Speaker 3: only a certain pot of money as well, Chelsea, isn't

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Speaker 3: there that they can allocate to these sports and you've

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Speaker 3: got to target the one that perennially New Zealand has success.

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