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Speaker 1: Sort of the next step in selecting the new pope.

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Speaker 1: We have no official data is yet, but tradition dictates

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Speaker 1: the conclaves no earlier than sixteen days after the pope's passing,

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Speaker 1: no later than twenty one. That takes us to really

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Speaker 1: may of course, that it can Correspondent Edward Penton back Edward,

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Speaker 1: morning to you, Good morning. I'll tell you what. Saturday

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Speaker 1: was quite the picture, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was certainly quite a spectacle. Yes, yes, always

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Speaker 2: papal funerals are like that, and this was no exception. Yet.

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Speaker 2: We had a huge, huge numbers of people I think

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand came to pay their respect. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How much political chet is going on now? How many

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Speaker 1: deals behind doors? What's going on and how does it work?

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Speaker 2: Well, we don't know for sure, because a lot of

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Speaker 2: it is done, you know, behind closed doors, but we

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Speaker 2: know that well. For example, President Emmanuel Macron had lunch

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Speaker 2: on Saturday after the funeral with four French cardinals. This

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Speaker 2: quite possibly there was some sort of discussions there about

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Speaker 2: who be the next pope. And I know that President

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Speaker 2: Macron would very much like Jean Marc Avelene Cardinal Avelene

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Speaker 2: who's a French cardinals. So yes, there's certainly some of

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Speaker 2: that going on, and but we'll know certainly more this

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Speaker 2: week when the General congregations get fully underway, because that's

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Speaker 2: when the cardinals get to meet and discuss the challenges

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Speaker 2: facing the church, and then it'll become quite clear which

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Speaker 2: cardinal is up to facing those challenges. So we'll know

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Speaker 2: much more this week.

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Speaker 1: And when we last talked, there was no clear favorite.

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Speaker 1: If there's no clear favorite, does that mean we're waiting

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Speaker 1: a longer period of time or we can't say that either.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well it's likely that will take longer. Yes, because

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Speaker 2: there are more cardinals. There one hundred and thirty four

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Speaker 2: cardinal electors, which is the highest for I think it's

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Speaker 2: in records on records, so's, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 2: cardinals to be heard in these general congregations. And then

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Speaker 2: they're all from very disparate parts of the world, so

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Speaker 2: that also adds a level of complexity to it, and

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Speaker 2: so it could be quite protracted. It could go on

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Speaker 2: for quite a bit, a bit longer than people expect.

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Speaker 1: Does geography play any role at all, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: the United Nations, it's sort of Europe's term, it's sort

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Speaker 1: of South America's turn or not.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it does. Yes, It's a good question because often

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Speaker 2: well up until Benedict, there was it was considered to

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Speaker 2: be very Eurocentric and there was a push to to

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Speaker 2: move away from that, which is why they chose Cardinal

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Speaker 2: Bargoglio from Latin America, the first pope from the Latin

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Speaker 2: from Latin America. So yes, And whether there's be a

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Speaker 2: push to bring it back to Europe. Let's some say

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Speaker 2: there would be particularly back to the Italians because they

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Speaker 2: a lot of cardinals want a greater sense of calm

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Speaker 2: in the in the Sacred College and in the Vatican.

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Speaker 2: So yes, that could be quite it could be very significant.

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Speaker 2: Also in this it will be very significant the geographical location.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we follow with interest. It would appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Once again, it would paint in Vatican. Correspond.

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