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Speaker 1: Pressing the newspakers to get the real story. It's Heatherdo

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Speaker 1: for Cea Ellen drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected,

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Welcome to the show coming up today. The rumors

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Speaker 3: are true. After all, Alliance is closing the Timaru meat plant.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk to the business about that. Dunedin

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Speaker 3: is not planning to take this hospital downsizing. Lying down.

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Speaker 3: There's a protest plan for tomorrow's and the Mirror's with

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Speaker 3: us later. And Winston's just taken a big old crack

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Speaker 3: at the security council at the un so we'll get

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Speaker 3: you across that. Heather Do for c Ellen, What about

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Speaker 3: Liam Lawson? A kid from booker Koe, Potato Country, has

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Speaker 3: just been given a Formula One seat for the rest

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Speaker 3: of the season. What an absolutely amazing achievement that is.

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Speaker 3: There are get this, only twenty seats available each season

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Speaker 3: in f one, twenty seats and drivers from around the world,

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Speaker 3: the absolute best drivers in the whole world, compete for

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Speaker 3: those twenty seats. And a twenty two year old kid

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Speaker 3: from New Zealand population just lightly over five million, that's

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Speaker 3: just a big city somewhere just took one of those

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Speaker 3: twenty seats. I mean, talk about overachieving. Well done him.

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Speaker 3: How proud do you think his parents are right now?

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Speaker 3: How much are they not regretting that move to Pokakoe

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Speaker 3: so he could be near the race track. It's paid off,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. I was listening to Liam talk to Mike

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Speaker 3: this morning, and the thing that struck me about him,

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Speaker 3: this is about Liam obviously, is how mature he is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, for a kid of twenty two years old,

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Speaker 3: he's unbelievably cool and calm and collected, and I reckon

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Speaker 3: even more so than people sometimes twice his age. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this kid knows what's on the line, he knows this

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Speaker 3: is his one shot. He understands he's got about six

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Speaker 3: this whole thing in his stride is completely unflappable. I

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Speaker 3: think even if he wasn't the impression that I got

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Speaker 3: impressed with his composure for his age. He's going to

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Speaker 3: need that composure because I don't know if you've seen it,

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Speaker 3: since the announcement that Daniel Ricardo's been Rolldin and Liam

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Speaker 3: Lawson's taking over, he is copying it something terrible online

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Speaker 3: Riccardo has been treated and who are blaming wrongly obviously

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Speaker 3: You can read it if you want to. So I

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Speaker 3: imagine he's going to have to draw on that mental

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Speaker 3: he will now be under from people out there who've

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Speaker 3: got opinions. But somehow, having listened to him talk this morning,

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to be absolutely fine.

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Speaker 1: Don't you ever do, Elen.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk to the sports Tuddle will be

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Speaker 3: with us about twenty away from six about that later on. Now,

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Speaker 3: on another subject altogether, we've got a bit of an

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Speaker 3: insight today into the use of puberty blockers for transgender kids.

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Speaker 3: In the country. Analysis in the Medical Journal shows that

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Speaker 3: New Zealand doctors have been prescribing these puberty blockers up

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Speaker 3: to seven times more than in other comparable countries. And

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Speaker 3: comparable countries we're talking about are the Netherlands, England, Wales,

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Professor Paul Hoffman is a pediatric endocrinologist at Auckland University. Haypaul, Hi,

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Speaker 3: Does that surprise you how often these things are been

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Speaker 5: Not particularly, it's there has been a trend in New

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Speaker 5: Zealand probably to use more pupil suppressive therapy than other

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Speaker 5: Won't It will mainly, But there are a number of

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Speaker 3: Now, why has it been happening at such a rate

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Speaker 5: Well, I think two things first before we get to that.

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Speaker 5: First there, we've just got to be careful the rates overseas.

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Speaker 5: They are probably closest to accurate in the Dutch. But

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Speaker 5: when you're doing things one hundred thousand ADO lessons and

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Speaker 5: it's not national data, which it is in this country,

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Speaker 5: I think overall it's definitely higher compared to you just

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Speaker 5: that's a good question. I think it reflects the approach

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Speaker 5: where we're looking at evidence that the therapy is effective

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Speaker 5: has been a concern that it's been overused whereas and

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Speaker 6: To say the efficasy, the actual hard evidence that it

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Speaker 3: So quite interesting in that data is it appears that

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Speaker 3: the use of the puberty blockers of prescriptions have started

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Speaker 5: Look, I think there has been increasing data internationally and concern.

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Speaker 5: Also in the in the press expressing the worries about

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Speaker 5: so that the population is now stabilizing. Well, I suspect,

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Speaker 3: Paul, do you think that we should go down the

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Speaker 5: My personal feeling is no, that's basically partner on some

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Speaker 5: I have been involved in several cases where I have

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Speaker 5: seen benefit. This is a very vulnerable group and I

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Speaker 5: think those who are self harming or doing high risk behaviors,

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Speaker 3: Hey, Paul, thank you. I really appreciate your time. Thanks

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Speaker 3: Naomi Campbell, the supermodel, has been banned from running a

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather duplicy Alan

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Speaker 7: Hello Darce masquerading as Jason Pine.

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Speaker 3: Hello Heather Liam Lawson. How incredible is that? How amazing

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Speaker 3: is that? But see this is the thing, how old

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Speaker 7: Fifty five? Next month?

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Speaker 3: You are fifty five? He's twenty two and he is

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Speaker 8: Well, motor sport or drivers have to be calm. Most

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Speaker 8: of the good ones are. They're not excitable characters. They're

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Speaker 7: I'd be terrible on the cart. I am terrible in the.

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Speaker 3: Car, super trained like a spire and way.

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Speaker 8: Too excited they are. And he knows he's gone through

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Speaker 7: Oddly when he gets into a category. He has a

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Speaker 8: The category in his first year. Really, he's done it

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Speaker 8: on so many occasions. He's already debuted F one, so

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Speaker 8: he's not going to win that now, is it? And

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Speaker 8: he didn't quite get it done. And super Formula, but

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Speaker 8: this guy has got so much talent. He's so calm,

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Speaker 8: and he's such a lovely, lovely man as well. You

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Speaker 3: Does he have a girlfriend.

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Speaker 7: I've got no idea.

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Speaker 8: You'll have to talk to the entertainment immediate apartment around

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you what I mean there. He is

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Speaker 3: going to be a very very eligible batch. He needs

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Speaker 3: to keep away from action action. Thank you well, put

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Speaker 3: and stay with on the car. Focus on the car.

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Speaker 3: October the twenty first, eight in the morning. That's a

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Speaker 8: Breaking news?

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Speaker 7: You broke my rant for nothing.

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Speaker 9: That's good.

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Speaker 3: Interested Rugby, what are you expecting.

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Speaker 7: A one pantsing for about forty five.

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Speaker 3: It's full twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Liam does have a girlfriend, lots of texts coming

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on youth talks, they'd be drive.

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Speaker 10: President Zelansky. I am clear Putin started this war and

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Speaker 11: I call on Israel on Hispola, stop the violence, step

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Speaker 12: Some areas racing from up to twenty feet of storm surge.

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Speaker 13: What do you wish they knew about him? That he's

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Speaker 7: What happened to the environment.

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Speaker 14: They don't mention it.

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Speaker 3: And finally, animals, a zoo in Finland has done the

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Speaker 1: They go International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I see a couple of people have already

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Speaker 3: Hits How long are you guys going to be coping

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Speaker 4: he wants, or he'll get some of the money he

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Speaker 4: wants if Kamala Harris gets into the office. I think

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a harder battle if Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: wins the White House, and it's really going to be

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Speaker 4: a hard sell to the American public right now. We

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Speaker 4: talked about this a few days ago. When you've got

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Speaker 4: the election coming up in inflation's high here, and you know,

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Speaker 4: jobs are still being cut to justify continuing to give

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Speaker 4: these huge sums of money to a country so far away,

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Speaker 4: and it is important, but the public perception is you're

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Speaker 4: taking money away from the US, and I think that's

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Speaker 4: going to be a hard sell with a lot of voters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's really turning into quite a stark choice.

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Speaker 3: On Ukraine, Kamala Harris obviously supporting ongoing support for indicating

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Speaker 3: ongoing support for Ukraine, whereas Donald Trump seems to be,

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Speaker 3: you know, indicating he will sue for peace almost immediately.

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Speaker 3: Which of the two has the more popular position?

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Speaker 4: Do you think with those boy, I mean, I think

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Speaker 4: it's just like the I think it's just like the

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Speaker 4: polls right now. I think it's split down the lines.

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Speaker 4: I think you're going to If you're a Democrat, you're

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Speaker 4: going to say, I think Harris can probably get through this,

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Speaker 4: is probably going to give some of the money and

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Speaker 4: should give the money. If you're a Republican and you're

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Speaker 4: in Trump's camp, I think you're going to say, no,

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Speaker 4: that money is needed here at home, and we're going

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Speaker 4: to do this through force, you know, with with the

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Speaker 4: US getting more involved.

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Speaker 3: Listen, how much are you guys going to spend on Halloween?

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Speaker 3: How much are you spending at your house this year

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Speaker 3: on Halloween?

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Speaker 4: Well, I got to tell you, Halloween, next to Christmas Eve,

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Speaker 4: is my second favorite holiday of the year.

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Speaker 14: I love it.

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Speaker 4: The country as a whole close to twelve billion dollars.

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Speaker 4: I mean you think about that. That's candy and costumes, decorations,

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Speaker 4: and over here in the States you start seeing things

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Speaker 4: out in August in the stores, which is just ridiculous

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Speaker 4: for a holiday that's at the end of October. But

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Speaker 4: you know, this has spread around the world, and I

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Speaker 4: know there's been criticism in New Zealand. They say it's

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Speaker 4: over commercialized and you know place it's like the warehouse

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Speaker 4: for example. But what's interesting there's been all these articles

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Speaker 4: that say people if you ask them in New Zealand

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Speaker 4: and I say, we don't want to celebrate this. This

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Speaker 4: is a holiday that's been coming over from the States.

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Speaker 4: But people give out candy over there, and then they

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Speaker 4: grumble about it, and then they go to the internet

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Speaker 4: to complain about something that they don't have any control over,

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Speaker 4: don't they just like we.

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Speaker 3: All, we just like complaining. But we like complaining about

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Speaker 3: you guys in particular, because you're so much more powerful

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Speaker 3: than we are, and then we can even be That's

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Speaker 3: why we.

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Speaker 4: Like it, you know. Oh well, well you just enjoy it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I just enjoy it, I guess.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, meaning you enjoy the complaining and we'll enjoy Halloween.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Oh I'll enjoy the candy too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that Dan, thank you appreciate it. Dan Mitchison,

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Speaker 3: US correspondent. Right here's Millennia. So as I was saying,

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Speaker 3: Milanie has done this some sit down interview with Fox

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Speaker 3: and Friends.

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Speaker 13: I think nothing prepared me more to be first lady

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Speaker 13: in front of the world than the fashion industry. It's glamorous,

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Speaker 13: but it's at the same time very tough.

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Speaker 3: She still sounds like a Bond girl, doesn't she like

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Speaker 3: the bad Bond girl, the one that James Bond. He

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Speaker 3: he gets a bit of nookie on with her, but

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Speaker 3: then she tries to kill him. That's what Milania sounds like.

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Speaker 3: Talked about her husband's assassination.

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Speaker 13: I ran to the TV and I rewind it and

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Speaker 13: I watched it. I was only a few minutes behind.

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Speaker 13: And then after that I got the Secret Service on

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Speaker 13: the phone and they said that he's okay. We are

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Speaker 13: on the way to the hospital.

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Speaker 7: He will be okay.

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Speaker 3: I want to know whether they then asked her and

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Speaker 3: were you relieved or disappointed after you found out that

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Speaker 3: he was okay? Anyway, Then she spoke about how she

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Speaker 3: raised her son.

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Speaker 13: I think it's very important that we show our children

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Speaker 13: that we are working too, to give them an example.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, now I understand. Now, I get what we're doing.

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Speaker 3: Gang on atack, gang on a tack.

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Speaker 13: I think nothing prepared me more to be first lady

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Speaker 13: in front of the world than the fashion industry. It's glamorous,

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Speaker 13: but it's at the same time very tough.

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Speaker 3: There we go there to seek to life for her.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that.

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Speaker 9: Andy.

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Speaker 3: You're never going to get this out of your head quarter.

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Speaker 1: To two politics was centrics credit, check your customers and

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Speaker 1: get payment certainty.

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Speaker 3: Seeing your political correspondence with us. Hello Berry, good afternoon, Heather. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so quite quite strong comments from Peter's wins and Peter's

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Speaker 3: yeah yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yesterday, of course he had quite strong comments when he

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Speaker 9: was talking to the UN Security Council during a debate

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Speaker 9: and told them basically to shut up while he was speaking.

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Speaker 9: And you know, I can understand being frustrated in an

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Speaker 9: environment like that, having been to the UN on many

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Speaker 9: occasions and seeing the movement and that greater amorphous auditorium

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Speaker 9: where people just wander around and really take no notice

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Speaker 9: of the person who's speaking. Well, today Winston was sent

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Speaker 9: to stage. He was up at that podium with the

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Speaker 9: green marble behind him that everybody is very familiar with.

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Speaker 9: Today it was, as I say, the general assemb He

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Speaker 9: was talking and he didn't hold back on how Russia

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Speaker 9: had violated its permanent member status on the Security Council.

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Speaker 17: When Russia, a permanent member of the Security Council, illegally

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Speaker 17: invaded its neighbor, it acted another contempt of the charter.

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Speaker 17: Russia then vetoed a draft Security Council resolution condemning its

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Speaker 17: actions and calling for the immediate withdrawal of its forces

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Speaker 17: from Ukraine. Not only does Russia lack the sincerity and

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Speaker 17: moral determination required to make the United Nations work, but

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Speaker 17: its delinguacy should be a clarion call for long overdue

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Speaker 17: Security Council reform. The regional and global challenges we face

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Speaker 17: are stark. The worst of the world is faced since

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Speaker 17: World War II.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's quite extraordinary really when you know this permanent

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Speaker 9: representation of these countries are China, France, Russia, the UK,

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Speaker 9: and the United States. They've got the power of veto

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Speaker 9: over any resolution that's passed, and they have had since

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Speaker 9: the UN was established in nineteen forty eight. And it

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Speaker 9: really makes a joke of you know, the situation that

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Speaker 9: Winston pointed out with Russia invading the Ukraine and then

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Speaker 9: they can veto a resolution against its own actions. Well,

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Speaker 9: you know, you have to ask what is the point

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Speaker 9: of the UN. And that's the point I think Winston

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Speaker 9: Peters is making, and others before him have made it

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Speaker 9: as well. Helen Clark's been very strong on this too,

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Speaker 9: that you know, you have this veto parrot the UN

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Speaker 9: and it really makes the UN impotent when it comes

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Speaker 9: to major international events.

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Speaker 3: Is there any indication though that we aren't going to

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Speaker 3: actually get any reformers just just hot Well.

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Speaker 9: I mean it's you know, it's been talked about for

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Speaker 9: many years, and you have to have the agreement out

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Speaker 9: of the permanent members to relinquish their veto rights something.

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Speaker 3: So that even the UN chief is calling for reform.

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Speaker 1: Well, yes he did.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but he's as powerful as one person can be.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he can't tell these countries what to do either.

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Speaker 9: So they've installed it and since the late forties and

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Speaker 9: as a result, nothing's going to change.

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Speaker 3: What about China's ballistic missile.

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I found that extraordinary. Is the first time

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Speaker 9: in forty four years the Chinese have fired an intercontinental

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Speaker 9: ballistic missile that landed in the Pacific, and basically Winston

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Speaker 9: Peters was asked about it. Of course he's very upset

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Speaker 9: by it. The Chinese Defense Ministry said in a statement

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Speaker 9: that the missile was part of a routine arrangement with

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Speaker 9: an annual training plan, and it wasn't directed in any

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Speaker 9: country or target. Well, that may be the case, but

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Speaker 9: the first and forty four years indicates that something is happening.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, we New Zealand are being accused of harrising Chinese citizens.

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Speaker 9: Are well, it's essentially the sis, and they say the

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Speaker 9: ESAs are saying that they're simply doing their job. And

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Speaker 9: they say that they've been seeing or talking to individuals

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Speaker 9: connected with certain front organization to dissuade them from activities

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Speaker 9: that impact our national security. I'm not sure what security

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Speaker 9: secrets that New Zealand's got, but nevertheless.

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Speaker 3: Barry, we're part of five Eyes. We've got there.

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Speaker 9: There is that, yeah, but so yeah, the SAS simply says, look,

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Speaker 9: we're doing our job.

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Speaker 3: That's it, okay, And what do you think the significance

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Speaker 3: is of the fact that we've sailed and naval ves

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Speaker 3: vessel through the Taiwan's Well, to.

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Speaker 9: Me, it's interesting that Judith Collins our Defense min As,

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Speaker 9: she said, yes, Australia and New Zealand are sailed this

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Speaker 9: week through the Taiwan Straight, which is clearly a very

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Speaker 9: sensitive part of the world. Yeah, when it comes to

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Speaker 9: China and Taiwan, but she didn't say in a statement

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Speaker 9: that we were a acompanied also by a Japanese destroyer

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Speaker 9: going through the Taiwan Strait. Now almost half of the

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Speaker 9: international cargo goes through the strait, so it's a it's

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Speaker 9: a trade route, but the Chinese are very sensitive about it,

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Speaker 9: and they are certainly upset by what's been going on there.

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Speaker 3: Arry, thank you. We'll read the political week that was

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Speaker 3: with you later on after six o'clock and very so.

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Speaker 3: Senior political correspondent had away from five.

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Speaker 1: All the big names are wrong.

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Speaker 18: The breakfast, no frickin' way. How exciting is that? David

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Speaker 18: Williams is our surprise? Guess how long has this been

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Speaker 18: set up? Because I was asking, what's going on with Williams?

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Speaker 18: How can he's not on the program?

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Speaker 19: Well?

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Speaker 20: They what did it?

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Speaker 14: Surprise?

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Speaker 3: Because I think they know that you have a really

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Speaker 3: huge crush on me.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I did, and that it would be exciting for you.

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Speaker 18: It is a wonderful surprise.

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Speaker 1: Did you sell your house by the beach?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Why should I?

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Speaker 18: I thought you were selling it?

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Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking about it, but there's tours going well,

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Speaker 3: so we don't have to.

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Speaker 18: Day from six am the Mike Husky Breakfast toward the

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Speaker 18: jaguar Us.

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Speaker 3: Talk ZB it's five away from five will we talk

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Speaker 3: a lot about how Wellington's and the Doldrums and having

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Speaker 3: a tough old time and look it is. But this

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Speaker 3: weekend it feels like maybe there's going to be a

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Speaker 3: little bit of reason to celebrate in Wellington, and that

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Speaker 3: is because they have got in Wellington the All Blacks

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Speaker 3: versus Wallabies game. That's going to bring a lot of

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Speaker 3: people into the Capitol who want to have lots of

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Speaker 3: beers to celebrate the All Blacks absolutely thumping the Wallabies.

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Speaker 3: And then after that they're also having the World of

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Speaker 3: Wearable Art or not after it's already kicked off. They've

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Speaker 3: got that happening as well, so that's going to bring

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Speaker 3: sixty thousand visitors in. And then also they're going to

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Speaker 3: have a sunny day tomorrow, low of six, but still

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Speaker 3: a sunny day tomorrow. So it's looking good for Wellington

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Speaker 3: this weekend. So anyway, we're going to talk to Matt McLaughlin,

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Speaker 3: who is I am personally very fond of and is

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Speaker 3: very good at running hospitality joints in Wellington. He's with

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Speaker 3: us twenty minutes time. Remember I was telling you the

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Speaker 3: other day about Peter Scott, the guy who was was

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Speaker 3: the Environment Canterbury chair. He's not the Environment Canterbury chair anymore.

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Speaker 3: He has resigned. He resigned yesterday because of his speeding.

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Speaker 3: We now know the extent of the speeding, so he

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Speaker 3: got It's not police tickets because that would be absolutely

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Speaker 3: Guinness Book of World Records kind of territory. But his

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Speaker 3: GPS and his council supplied car busted him speeding six

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Speaker 3: hundred and seventy nine times since January, almost half so

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Speaker 3: round about three hundred and thirty nine or thereabouts, were

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Speaker 3: at least fifteen k's over the posted speed limit. Now

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Speaker 3: that's pretty naughty. That is naughty. That's like a fifty

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Speaker 3: ks on you're going sixty five. Cops aren't going to

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Speaker 3: tolerate that. That's a seventy k zone. You're going eighty five, right,

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Speaker 3: it's not cooled. But hat how about this? Twenty one

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Speaker 3: of those occasions, he was going fast enough to loot

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Speaker 3: to have his driver's license suspended, which means he was

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Speaker 3: going forty ks above the posted speed limit more than

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Speaker 3: so it was one hundred k zon. He's going one

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty. Liam Lawson, what's your back? Peter Scott's

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Speaker 3: coming for you? Like Liam's still on lap one and

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Speaker 3: Peter's on lap three. The way he drives. Talk about

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Speaker 3: Liam Lawson later on as well.

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Speaker 1: The only Drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Heather due to Clan drive with one New Zealand. Let's

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Speaker 1: get connected and you talk as they'd.

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Speaker 21: Be good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: A Lion's Group is planning to close its meat processing

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Speaker 3: plants into Mauru. There is some consultation that's planned, but

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Speaker 3: if the decision is made as expected, six hundred jombs

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Speaker 3: at the meat processing plant will go. Mark Win is

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Speaker 3: the Alliance group chairman. Hi, Mark, Hi, why are you

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Speaker 3: having to do this?

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Speaker 22: Well, just before we go to that, I'd just like

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Speaker 22: to say, you know, express in to see with staff

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Speaker 22: that are impacted in the impact in the local community.

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Speaker 22: This is a really tough day for them. But the

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Speaker 22: fundamental driver behind the reason is declining livestock numbers in

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Speaker 22: New Zealand, in particular sheep and the foll on effect

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Speaker 22: that that has on the processing industry, and in this

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Speaker 22: case our smith Field site, we.

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Speaker 3: Can blame the trees.

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Speaker 22: Not entirely, No, there are numerous factors. You know, if

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Speaker 22: you go back to humans have been farming for a

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Speaker 22: very long time and land use change has always been

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Speaker 22: a part of that. New Zealand used to be very

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Speaker 22: famous for our sixty million sheep and then in the

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Speaker 22: early two thousands a lot of sheep farms converted into dairy.

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Speaker 22: More recently definitely trees and the carbon farming and the

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Speaker 22: policy settings around that has had had an impact. But

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Speaker 22: you know, land use change in the North Island can go.

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Speaker 22: Dairy farms are being impacted by the switch into kiwi

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Speaker 22: fruit as the economic drivers that farmers face every day,

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Speaker 22: and that drives land use change.

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Speaker 3: Okay, do you imagine that this is going to be

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Speaker 3: the end of it or is it a trend that

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Speaker 3: you will continue to see and therefore you will have

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Speaker 3: to shut more places.

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Speaker 22: Well, I think at a national livestock flow level the

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Speaker 22: trend is likely to continue. So economic return on farm

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Speaker 22: is poor. If you look at sheep are a dual

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Speaker 22: purpose animal, both will and meat. Wool has been in

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Speaker 22: dolgrums for a very long time and meat. At the

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Speaker 22: moment we have been in the downside of the commodity cycle,

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Speaker 22: hopefully at the bottom and starting to climb back up again.

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Speaker 22: But the economic return that a sheep and beef farmer

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Speaker 22: can enjoy is always compared against alternative land uses, and

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Speaker 22: right now the policy settings on carbon farming are a

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Speaker 22: very attractive return for farmers. And so you've seen hundreds

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Speaker 22: of thousand if he is, move out of sheep and

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Speaker 22: beef or livestock farming and into permanent carbon farming, and

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Speaker 22: that trend is likely to continue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think happens to these six hundred people?

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Speaker 3: Do they go to Australia, Do they go on the

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Speaker 3: doll do they go into other available work?

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Speaker 22: Well, I think that's going to be a personal choice

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Speaker 22: and stage of life and skill TETs and opportunities. It's

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Speaker 22: going to be very tough whatever choice they make in

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Speaker 22: terms of re employment. Inside the Alliance group, we have

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Speaker 22: very few opportunities and our closest planters are just outside

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Speaker 22: of Timrouse.

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Speaker 23: It's a fair way away.

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Speaker 22: So I think it's going to be pretty tough for

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Speaker 22: most of them.

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Speaker 3: Mark, Thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Is Mark

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Speaker 3: Winn Alliance Group.

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Speaker 1: Chair ever do for seel doesn't look like.

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Speaker 3: Dunedin is going to take lying down that decision to

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Speaker 3: downscale the new hospital. Yesterday the government announced the hospital's

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Speaker 3: budget has blown out from one point nine to three

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Speaker 3: billion and it's unaffordable. There is a protest planned tomorrow

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Speaker 3: and the mayor jewels raditors with us. He Jules, hey,

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Speaker 3: how are you? I'm very well, thank you. How big

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Speaker 3: is that protest going to be?

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Speaker 16: Well, we don't know yet. We don't have any indication

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Speaker 16: of numbers, but I expect there'll be thousands of people.

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Speaker 3: What do you think the government should do if they

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Speaker 3: don't go? If they I mean they've proposed that they

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Speaker 3: may just you know, downscale the new one or they

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Speaker 3: may add to the existing one. You don't like either

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Speaker 3: of those options.

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Speaker 16: Well, in the first instance, I think they should undergo

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Speaker 16: a process or go through a process of I suppose

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Speaker 16: contract management. You know they've taken the initial contractor was

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Speaker 16: a multinational with lots of layers of profitability and at

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Speaker 16: higher level. So let's have a look. I mean, our

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Speaker 16: patients is going really well. It's under budget and on time,

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Speaker 16: so it's going really well, and so by dealing with

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Speaker 16: different contractors, I think we can get the price back

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Speaker 16: down to the one point eight in and get the

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Speaker 16: hospital built with all its clinical services, services and facilities.

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Speaker 3: I think the contractors there problem here, Jewels, I do

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Speaker 3: why the contract?

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Speaker 16: Well, they've been very good at escalating the price of

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Speaker 16: various contracts that have done for New Zealand government, like

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Speaker 16: a transmission gully, the new christ Church Hospital.

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Speaker 3: A bit of a pattern of behavior here from these guys.

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Speaker 3: You think, yes, interesting, Okay, do you reckon the government's

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Speaker 3: movable on this?

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Speaker 16: Well? Absolutely, if they engage in that contract negotiations and

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Speaker 16: you know they are looking and talking about that, and

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Speaker 16: if they you know, they can get pricing within the

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Speaker 16: realms of reasonable, then I think they can do it.

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Speaker 16: Because we've got we've got all the designs done. I

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Speaker 16: mean the piles. From from my old US window, I

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Speaker 16: can see all the piles are done. They're in the

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Speaker 16: ground and finish that was finished this week, would you believe?

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Speaker 16: And the plans are all gone. So there's two and

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Speaker 16: a half thousand pages of plans that were received on

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Speaker 16: site or to the site office a month or two ago.

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Speaker 16: So there's been a heap of a lot of money

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Speaker 16: spent on this design and it's just a matter of

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Speaker 16: getting on and building it. And we can see what

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Speaker 16: good quality contractors can do because we can see it

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Speaker 16: right next door in the outpatient's building.

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Speaker 3: Good luck with that I and good luck with the protest,

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Speaker 3: tomor I appreciate your time. It's Juels Radditch to Needin's me.

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Speaker 3: He may have a point there, a contractors three times

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Speaker 3: budget blow out, blow out the budget. You got to

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Speaker 3: start getting a little bit suspicious. Thirteen past five.

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Speaker 1: Together due for clan.

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Speaker 3: That decision on the fairies is proving expensive. So remember

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Speaker 3: if you if you need reminding, the i Rex was

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Speaker 3: going to cost US three billion dollars, which was far

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Speaker 3: too much, and we were going to get rail enabled

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Speaker 3: fairies and all kinds of side stuff. It was gonna

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Speaker 3: be awesome. It's just going to be wow, just so awesome.

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Speaker 3: And Nicola Willis quite rightly looked at it and said, well,

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Speaker 3: we're not going to do that. But then Nikola Willis

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Speaker 3: made possibly a mistake and just canceled the whole project right,

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Speaker 3: didn't find another alternative, didn't go back to the ship

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Speaker 3: builders and say Hey, can you make a smaller ships?

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Speaker 3: Can we redo? Can we talk about this? Just canceled

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Speaker 3: the whole thing. Well, now we're starting to find out

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Speaker 3: how much.

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Speaker 1: This is costing.

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Speaker 3: It has already cost key we rail four hundred and

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Speaker 3: seventy million dollars. Let's surround it up and call it

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Speaker 3: what it is. Half a billion. So we're already at

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Speaker 3: the half a billion mark and we got nothing to

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Speaker 3: show for it. Half a billion is and this is,

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Speaker 3: according to notes to its financial accounts which we're released today,

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Speaker 3: is basically just impairments and stuff like that. It's just nothing.

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Speaker 3: It's nothing. We've thrown half a billion at nothing. There

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Speaker 3: will be more because we will have to pay more

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Speaker 3: than this. Fillion five hundred million is just the start

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Speaker 3: of it, right, because at some point we're going to

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Speaker 3: have to pay the break fee. God only knows how

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Speaker 3: much that is going to be, and then we're going

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Speaker 3: to have to actually buy replacement ferries. So once we

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Speaker 3: get what are we looking at? One billion, one and

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Speaker 3: a half billion, two billion, and then Labe, you go, well,

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Speaker 3: maybe we should have just stuck with three billion and

833
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Speaker 3: got got the gold standard. Who knows quarter past? Guess

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Speaker 3: who's turned up at the school climate strike. Darlene has

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Speaker 3: Darlene's turn, just to remind us that Darlene is still

836
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Speaker 3: doing the mahi and she's still there with the Kopappa,

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Speaker 3: and we we'll talk about this. We'll talk about the school.

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Speaker 3: We have to talk about the school climate strike at

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Speaker 3: some station. We will get to it. Eighteen past five.

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Speaker 3: Now a little bit of good news finally, Thank goodness

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Speaker 3: for Wellington businesses because this weekend is shaping up to

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Speaker 3: be a whopper. They've got thousands of visitors coming into

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Speaker 3: the capital for the All Blacks Wallabies game tomorrow, and

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Speaker 3: then about sixty thousand visitors should be coming in for

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Speaker 3: wow over the next fortnight. Director of Hospitality Group, Matt McLaughlin.

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Speaker 4: Is with me.

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Speaker 23: Now, hey, Matt, all right here, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm well, thank You've got the kegs full and the

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Speaker 3: glasses polished, and the fridge is stopped and stuff, all.

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Speaker 15: Of the above.

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Speaker 23: We've been stacking it up all weeks. So very excited

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Speaker 23: down here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how busy do you reckon?

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Speaker 23: You're going to be Look, I think it's going to

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Speaker 23: be It's going to be back to the good old

856
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Speaker 23: days of these Petle black tests. You know, we missed

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Speaker 23: it last year because of the World Cup, so Wellington

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Speaker 23: didn't have a test match. We really, you know, we

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Speaker 23: thrive on this weekends and these kind of weekends and

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Speaker 23: we kind of need them and often we have two

861
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Speaker 23: tests or we've got other big events going on, but

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Speaker 23: we really missed it last year and just with obviously

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Speaker 23: all the issues that we're having in Willington, we're really

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Speaker 23: looking forward to this weekend and hoping it's going to

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Speaker 23: be a monster.

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Speaker 1: What do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: I mean, is this who's the better crowd for you?

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Speaker 3: Is it the rugby fans who come before the game

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Speaker 3: to pre load and then after the game to debrief,

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Speaker 3: or is it the Wow crowd of.

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Speaker 23: Mums a little bit of both. Actually, the Wow crowd

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Speaker 23: obviously is kind of seven days, you know, so we're

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Speaker 23: getting them for two or three weeks on the trot

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Speaker 23: and then they're all coming from out of town. So

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Speaker 23: that's a really good market. But you know, you just

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Speaker 23: can't beat the big rugby crowds. But not only you

877
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 23: know that we had the Argentina Test yet earlier on

878
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 23: in the year only eighteen thousand people. We didn't get

879
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 23: the influx of people from out of town. We didn't

880
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 23: get the I call them the Taranakee Farmers and the

881
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 23: groups of the lads from the Hawk's Bay that come

882
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 23: in obviously playing Australia, big rivalry, lots of flights coming

883
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 23: in from Australia, you know, full house. It's probably the

884
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 23: perfect test smash for us.

885
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: I was thinking about you guys generally like Wellington businesses

886
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 3: a couple of days ago and just wondering how you

887
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: guys feel about the fact that we're all smack talking

888
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 3: Wellington the whole time.

889
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 23: Well, it's actually it's good and bad. I mean, you know,

890
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 23: it's not great for us to sort of be the

891
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 23: front of everyone's jokes. But I've got to say it's

892
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 23: all true. You know, we're really copping it down here.

893
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 23: We could really do with the crowds to get back out.

894
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 23: We could do with people getting back into the city,

895
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 23: coming back to work and come in and enjoying the

896
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 23: great hospitality that we've got, because you know we are.

897
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 23: We're really suffering. It's well publicized how many businesses are

898
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 23: unfortunately having doors and you know there's a lot of

899
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 23: places that are really hurting.

900
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, beast of luck, Matt I hope it's an absolute

901
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: ripper for you guys this weekend. That's Matt mcloughan, director

902
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: of Half Hospitality Group.

903
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 9: You.

904
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 3: I was thinking about them because I thought it must

905
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: be tafe, like they need us to winge about Tory

906
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 3: and can play about Tory because unless you winging complain,

907
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: nothing's going to change, right, So you need to talk

908
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 3: about it in order to affect the change for people

909
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: to realize how bad it is, like people like Sammi

910
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: and Brown local government minister. But then at the same time,

911
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: by winging and complaining about it and talking about it

912
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: all the time, we're basically chasing visitors away who go, oh,

913
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: where shall I go this weekend? Queenstown and well in Queenstown,

914
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? So it's kind of

915
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: like a double edged sword. Hey, I've got a bit

916
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: of a good economic news for you, because who doesn't

917
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: love this Consumer confidence? This is the index run by

918
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 3: ain Z Roy Morgan, up three points in September, so

919
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: consumers are feeling good. Third month in a row that

920
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 3: consumers are feeling good. Still mainly pessimistic because it's sitting

921
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: at nine point five one and anything under one hundred

922
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: basically as pessimism, and it's still below the long term

923
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: average of one hundred and fourteen. It's at ninety five,

924
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: but it's climbing and it's because of the interest rate cuts.

925
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: I'm I take that every day. Five twenty one.

926
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: Heather Dupasicy Allen cutting through the noise to get the facts.

927
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicy Allen Drive with one New Zealand, Get

928
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: connected and news talk as they'd be.

929
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: Five twenty four.

930
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 16: Right.

931
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: I got a text ages ago saying we need to

932
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: talk about the situation with Hastings District Council and at

933
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: giving the unelected kids the vote. And I didn't actually

934
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 3: get a chance to properly tell you what my problem

935
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: with it was yesterday. So I'm going to use the

936
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: opportunity now apropos that text. Thanks very much. My problem

937
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: is this, My main problem is this. I have many problems,

938
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 3: but this is my main one. Councils have lost the plot.

939
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 9: I don't know.

940
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: I've got completely bonkers.

941
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 14: What the hell?

942
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: This is not their job for a council. The reason

943
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: I pay the rates and you pay the rates and

944
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: we will pay the rates. The reason we do that

945
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: is because we want them to deal with the parks

946
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: and the roads and the street lights, and the rubbish

947
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: and the water and the sewage, you know, just like

948
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: general stuff like that, the stuff that makes a city tick.

949
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 20: Right.

950
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 3: It's not their job to provide civics education to high

951
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: school students. It's a really nice thing to do, but

952
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 3: it's not their job. Everything they do that is not

953
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 3: their job costs rate payers more money on top of

954
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: what we already pay for them to do their job.

955
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: And the trouble is that councils are finding out a

956
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: lot of things to do that are not their job.

957
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 3: I mean, look at them at the moment, like screaming

958
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: blue murder about Mildi Wards right, having a hui with

959
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: the local government New Zealand guys with this is all

960
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: day whoey about and they have lots of cord it

961
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: all but not your job and I'm paying you to

962
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: do that really irritates me. And this is gonna snowball

963
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: because it already has because the Hastings mayor was on

964
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: with Kerry today right, and she's defending what she'd done

965
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: because basically her argument was, look, we have to give

966
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: the kids the voting rights because we already give unelected

967
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: other people voting rights. So we've got the risk and

968
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: assurance experts, they've got voting rights. And we've got a

969
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 3: Maori Standing Committee, they've got voting rights. So if we're

970
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 3: gonna give it to the Marti Standing Committee, we go

971
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: give it to the risk and assurance experts. We really

972
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: need to give it to the youth. Well why stop there?

973
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 3: Why not give every other special group who's currently inadequately

974
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: represented on council some voting rights. So why don't we

975
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 3: find some retirement village residents. I don't see a lot

976
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: of them on council. Let's give them some voting rights.

977
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: And farmers maybe the one or two farmers are but

978
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 3: it's not enough of them, ay, so let's get them

979
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: some voting rights. What about dairy owners who are the

980
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: subject of violence at the moment, We'll give them some

981
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: voting rights. And maybe why don't we do the migrants

982
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 3: as well? Because I don't see a lot of them

983
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 3: on council. Give them some voting rights too, do you

984
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, if you start the thing

985
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 3: where does a bloody will stop? You could go on

986
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: absolutely forever and before you know it, the two thousand

987
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: dollars that you're paying the kid. You thought you were

988
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 3: paying the kid was only two thousand dollars. Now it

989
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: turns out at six thousand dollars because you've got the

990
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: risk and assurance guy, and you've also got the Mardi

991
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: standing committee member, and now we might have to add

992
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: more two thousands to that. It's now we're going to

993
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: need the old people and the farmers and the dairy

994
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: owners and the migrants, and God only knows how much

995
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: before we actually call the thing off. The fact is

996
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: we already have lots of voices the people that we elect.

997
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: That's why we elect them to run the council for us.

998
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: They can't then screw democracy to add some more voices

999
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 3: that they want because they think they should be there too.

1000
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: That's for us, the voters, to decide at the next election.

1001
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: If we think that we're not adequate, we're going on

1002
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: another young people and there let's vote them in. I

1003
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 3: feel like councils don't actually realize right now quite how

1004
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: brassed off we are with them. So taking the mickey

1005
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: with their nineteen percent rap rises and they're building eighty

1006
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 3: four thousand dollars bike racks and they're putting plants on

1007
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: top of things, like they're doing all this crazy stuff

1008
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 3: and I don't think that we've ever been this brassed

1009
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: off with them, and we are very brassed off with them,

1010
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: but I don't think they realize how much. And the

1011
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: reason they don't think they realize how much is because

1012
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: Hastings District Council is still doing stupid stuff like this yesterday.

1013
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: Hell dup see Allen.

1014
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: Oh, and can we just tell you Laura producer Laura

1015
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 3: came in to me today She goes, I don't really

1016
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: care about this, don't ready bother me? And I was like,

1017
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: how are there thinking people in this world who don't

1018
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: care about it's stopping right now? I'm going to blow

1019
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: a blood vessel or something like and we don't need well,

1020
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to stress my baby and I don't need

1021
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 3: to do that, do I? This a non stupid stuff

1022
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: that happens really quickly. Oh, we're going to talk changing

1023
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: the subject to awesome young people. We're going to talk

1024
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 3: about Liam Lawson shortly with Jeordie Peters, who is from Motorsport,

1025
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: New Zealand. And also back on councils because there's a

1026
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 3: never ending list of stupid stuff. Wellington's on water restrictions again,

1027
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 3: it's the first what is it's like, It's like the

1028
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: first month of spring. They're already in level one because

1029
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 3: from daylight savings, because they're gonna run out the summer again.

1030
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 3: Apparently Headline's next.

1031
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: Hard questions Strong opinion ever due for see allan drive

1032
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: with one New Zealand. Let's get connected and news talk

1033
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: as it'd be.

1034
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 19: Me.

1035
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 7: You can see.

1036
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 3: Huddle standing by. We've got Nicky Styris and Matt Brown

1037
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: coming in very very hot, very very shortly. Heither your

1038
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: opinion slash rant on the Hastings mayor so off. I

1039
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: thought her rationale was excellent for youth succession planning. That's

1040
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: an excellent idea. Not their job. Not their job, that's

1041
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: not how election. You don't sit there planning your succession

1042
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: for who I'm going to elect. At the I decide

1043
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: who I'm going to elect. I'll elect anybody I want.

1044
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 3: It's not your job to line up the next guy

1045
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: to take your seat. Heather, thank you for explaining how

1046
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 3: I feel about the Bloody Hawk's Bay Council thing much

1047
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 3: more eloquently than I might have. I add all the

1048
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 3: adjectives like muppets et cetera. Are far too good for them. Trevor,

1049
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: thank you. Right now, it's twenty three away from six.

1050
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: Heather Duper see Ellen after six o'clock.

1051
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: Going to talk about Winston Peter's speech the un because

1052
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: he's really just laid into them, hasn't he. But Liam Lawson,

1053
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: let's talk about him. He's been given the big job,

1054
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 3: officially being confirmed as an F one driver until the

1055
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 3: end of the season, replacing Daniel Ricardo for the final

1056
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 3: six races. Jordi Peters is Motorsport n z's Development and

1057
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 3: marketing executive Jordie Hello, good.

1058
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: A, how're we going?

1059
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 4: Good?

1060
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: Thank you?

1061
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: How amazing is this?

1062
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 24: Oh, it's incredible news for not only for the motorsport

1063
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 24: community in New Zealand, but but New Zealand as a whole.

1064
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 24: Formula Ones obviously a pretty big deal and it's super

1065
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 24: exciting to have a Kiwi in there full time.

1066
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: Why do we overachieve in motorsport?

1067
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 23: The connect question is are so much?

1068
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 24: And I think it can be put down to a

1069
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 24: couple of things.

1070
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 9: In New Zealand.

1071
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 24: The first one is we've got a pretty proven junior

1072
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 24: pathway for our young drivers.

1073
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: We also have a unique rule that.

1074
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 24: Allows them to race in a car at twelve years old,

1075
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 24: which is younger than anywhere else around the world, even Australia,

1076
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 24: and in Liam's case and a lot of our top

1077
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 24: guy's case, they started at twelve and thirteen and have

1078
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 24: that extra few years over the rest of the world

1079
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 24: when they hit overseas, and that immediately makes them stand out.

1080
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: If you want your child to succeed at motorsport, do

1081
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: you still move to Pokakoe?

1082
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 24: You could argue that there is something in the water there.

1083
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: I mean, unfortunately we.

1084
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 24: Don't have the race track there anymore, but lock certainly

1085
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 24: Pokacoe is like Jordie.

1086
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 3: Where do you move then? If it's not Pockey, well.

1087
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 23: That's a good question.

1088
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 24: I think Pokako is still probably quite a good place

1089
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 24: to be. You've got hands and downs not that far away,

1090
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 24: and you're nice and close to Auckland where a lot

1091
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 24: of sort of backers and there's a lot of teams

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00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 24: based there as well.

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00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic. It's a great place to grow up. Actually,

1094
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 3: speak from experience, do you think that he is going

1095
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 3: to get the twenty twenty five seat?

1096
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 24: Look, I think, obviously, being the optimist, certainly want him to,

1097
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 24: and I think he's got the ability to, and like

1098
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 24: he said in a couple of interviews already today, this

1099
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 24: is his opportunity over the next six races to really

1100
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 24: grab it by the scruff of the neck and make

1101
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 24: the most of it, improve that he deserves to be

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00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 24: there full time next year.

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Speaker 3: What do you I mean, you're you're much more into

1104
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 3: this than most of us, right, So what are you saying, Like,

1105
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: is this his to lose or does he have to

1106
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 3: prove himself yet?

1107
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 24: I think to be fair, it's probably somewhere in the middle. Like,

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00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 24: he's obviously had his five Grand Prix last year and

1109
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 24: he's certainly impressed. He beat his teammates and almost every

1110
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 24: one of them. He knock Max the staff and out

1111
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 24: of qualifying at Singapore. He's scored some points in Singapore,

1112
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 24: so he's to a certain extent he has shown he's

1113
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 24: got the ability and over the next five, sorry six rounds,

1114
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 24: he's just got to back that up. And if he

1115
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 24: can beat Uki Sonoda, who he's beaten before, then that'll

1116
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 24: prove that he's got what it takes and they should

1117
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 24: be looking at him over someone else.

1118
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: And to my point about BOOKA, Kobe before. Do you

1119
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: think more kids will want to get involved now that

1120
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: you see a Liam Lawson doing this, well, I look absolutely.

1121
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 24: I think you know, that's probably one of the biggest

1122
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 24: things that we've been talking about today. And while this

1123
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 24: has been rumored, it helps shine a light on motorsport

1124
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 24: in New Zealand, but actually for the kids who are.

1125
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 23: There or have the aspirations, it just shows.

1126
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 14: That it is possible.

1127
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 24: You know, before Liam, we had Brendan Hartley there in

1128
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 24: twenty eighteen, so that was not that long ago, but

1129
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 24: before that it was thirty four years to Mike Sackwell,

1130
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 24: which was ahic of a long time and for a

1131
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 24: lot of kids they thought that that was just a

1132
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 24: totally unachievable dream. And now we've had Brendan there in

1133
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 24: twenty eighteen and Liam there last year and.

1134
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Speaker 13: Now this year.

1135
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 24: I think it shows that it is still possible from.

1136
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Speaker 23: The long New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, Jordi, Thank you so much. Jordi Peters, Development

1138
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Speaker 3: and Marketing Executive of Motorsport New Zealand.

1139
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Speaker 1: The Friday's Sports title with New Zealand's Southebeast international realty,

1140
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Speaker 1: local and global exposure like no.

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Speaker 12: Other I've spoken to my parents.

1142
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 4: I've spoken to everybody that's that's been behind me on

1143
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 4: this journey. It's very very special.

1144
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: But we don't have much time to really let this thinking.

1145
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 4: We're going to get straight to work.

1146
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 24: I think when you look back on your career later on,

1147
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 24: you might have some you might not, But I'm content

1148
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 24: with my decision.

1149
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 4: He's the Boogeyman of the Hilight heavyweight division.

1150
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 14: Nobody wants to touch this guy. He's obviously been knocking

1151
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 14: people out. You know, they've just been throwing me all

1152
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 14: these wolves.

1153
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 4: So I think he's the next guy.

1154
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 3: On the sports tittle of that's this evening. Matt Brown Oceani,

1155
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: a Football Confederation media manager, and Nikki Star, a sports journalist.

1156
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 3: Tell her you too, Hi, hither, Hello, here are guys.

1157
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: It's good to talk to the pair of you met.

1158
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: This guy's classy.

1159
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 20: Yeah, this kid, oh he is indeed, Liam Lawson, you know,

1160
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 20: it's just fantastic to have another.

1161
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 16: Kiwi as your last.

1162
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 7: And the review he said, you know, on the world stage.

1163
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 4: Formula one is the biggest steel and.

1164
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 20: Motorsport, let's face it, and he will inspire a whole

1165
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 20: heap of younger kids in this country to follow the

1166
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 20: sport to take it up, but it's crucial for the

1167
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 20: next six rounds. If he doesn't perform, then it's cutthroat

1168
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 20: and he could be gone and then he's it's a

1169
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 20: major setback in his bit to drive in Formula one.

1170
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 16: So he's got to.

1171
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 20: Take the bull by the horn and really really perform.

1172
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Speaker 3: And where do you think, Matt, where do you reckon

1173
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 3: he sits? Does he sit on the like is he

1174
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 3: above fifty percent for them thinking he's the guy? Or

1175
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 3: is he still going to prove himself.

1176
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 4: I think he's still got to prove himself.

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00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 20: But the fact that you know, he had those five

1178
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 20: races last year, he went off to Japan, which is

1179
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 20: a really tough, tough Formula series there too, so he's

1180
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 20: kind of done the groundwork, really done the groundwork, and

1181
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 20: he believes he's really he believes he can become a

1182
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 20: world champion one day. Obviously, you know a lot of

1183
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 20: that comes to the sort of car you get in.

1184
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 20: You've got to be in the top car, you know,

1185
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 20: the top red bull cars, rather.

1186
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: Than sort of the second grouping that he's in.

1187
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Speaker 20: But nevertheless, you've got I have that belief in confidence.

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00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 3: Nikki did you see how much he might earn. No,

1189
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 3: do you do you really miss the boat? I'm going

1190
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 3: to say, this is going to make you. This makes

1191
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 3: me sad, happy for him, obviously, sad for me. He

1192
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 3: so Max mustappin earns obviously the most. That's eighty eight

1193
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 3: million bucks a year. Right, the average F one contract

1194
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: is twenty one million bucks. New Zealand Snoda is reportedly

1195
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 3: only making one point six million. Are you I'll take anywhere.

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00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 3: I'll take anywhere in that range. I don't know about

1197
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 3: you yet.

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00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 25: Yeah, but he Remember we do work in media, so

1199
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 25: we're used to a fairly low bar.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 3: I'm excited. I'm excited for him. I'm gonna live vicariously.

1202
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 4: Say Lawson absolutely.

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00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 25: Look, he's an absolute superstar, twenty two years of age.

1204
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,479
Speaker 25: He's had a plan and he has succeeded at every

1205
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 25: point of that plan. And I just, I mean, I

1206
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 25: think both Matt and Jordie have really covered it. He's

1207
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 25: got a huge test coming and I only hope that

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00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 25: he can keep it on track and deal with the pressure,

1209
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 25: because it's going to be a lot of pressure.

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00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 3: Do you think he can nicky?

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Speaker 1: He sounded.

1212
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 3: I listened to him today with Mike, and I thought,

1213
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 3: this is a kid who does not feel like he

1214
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 3: has easily kind of freaked out my stuff.

1215
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 25: Yeah yeah, I've interviewed him a couple of times on

1216
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 25: the Aim Show actually, and he was a phenomenal human being.

1217
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 25: I can't even imagine being that age and having this

1218
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 25: sort of confidence in the calmness that he has. And

1219
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 25: that's because, as you say, he's come through the ranks,

1220
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 25: he's had a plan, he's had a lot of support,

1221
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 25: so you know, now it's his time to shine, and

1222
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 25: I really do hope that he can achieve it because

1223
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 25: it's a cutthroat business.

1224
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, Matt listened. Has d mac done his dash

1225
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 3: with Rosa?

1226
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 4: I'm not so sure.

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00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 7: I wouldn't write him off yet.

1228
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 20: Look, he's been given a few test matches, and to

1229
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 20: be honest, I was really critical from last weekend. I thought,

1230
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 20: you know, just blowing real obvious tricecreing opportunities a few

1231
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 20: dumb things.

1232
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 7: But look him putting Bonen in there. Bonen's done it

1233
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 7: in the past.

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00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 20: But then again, you know it was quite a few

1235
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 20: years ago really, when Boden was at as big as

1236
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 20: a first clabate. I think it really undermines that we're

1237
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 20: probably lacking a little bit, and it's amazing when you've

1238
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 20: had the likes of Daniel Carnah, Andrew Murtens, Carols Spencer,

1239
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 20: so many brilliant five eighths over the last couple of decades.

1240
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 20: We're probably at a stage now where with Muanga, you

1241
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 20: know still I think the best New Zealand first five

1242
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 20: that playing the game overseas and not eligible where we're

1243
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 20: going through a little patch where we're probably not as

1244
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 20: good in that area because there isn't the youngster coming

1245
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 20: through who you think, you know should be in that

1246
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 20: spot ahead of these veterans. So whether it's Bowden or

1247
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 20: whether it's d Mac, I think it's sort of six

1248
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 20: and one half dozen of another with those two.

1249
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Speaker 23: So it'll be in how body goes this weekend.

1250
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Nicky, I want you to take We'll get

1251
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,959
Speaker 3: it after the break quarter two.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty

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Speaker 1: Elevate the marketing of your home.

1254
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 3: Nicky Styris and Matt Brown on the sports Huddle. Right, Nikki,

1255
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: what do you reckon? Has d Mac done his dash

1256
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 3: or can he actually earned his place back.

1257
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 25: Well, I actually think that Scott Robertson's got this role

1258
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,959
Speaker 25: by dropping him. I think obviously they need a first

1259
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 25: five who can control the game, and they've had that

1260
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 25: in the past. The problem is that Damien is currently

1261
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 25: not that type of player, but he needs to prove

1262
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 25: that he can be, and that is the every reason

1263
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 25: that they should be playing him over Boden Barrett Bone

1264
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 25: and Barrett's done his dash. He's not going to be

1265
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 25: at the next World Cup. This is the first year

1266
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 25: of a World Cup recycle and it's a dead rubber.

1267
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 25: We can't win the Rugby Championship. You know, there is

1268
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 25: every reason for him to be playing to prove if

1269
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 25: he is not the guy, then find the guy who is.

1270
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 25: But just playing him off the bench as impact, I

1271
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 25: feel like that's sort of Scott Robertson looking after his

1272
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 25: record rather than building for the future, and I don't

1273
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 25: really agree with that. I think that there is a

1274
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 25: fundamental problem with New Zealand rugby is that they are

1275
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 25: you know, they are no longer they unbeatable, that they

1276
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 25: lack depths. They need to let players go overseas, they

1277
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 25: need to let them go and play over there. Come

1278
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 25: back with the strengths play the likes of South Africa

1279
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 25: who they can no longer play in Super rugby, and

1280
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 25: then they will get some more deat.

1281
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Speaker 3: Take your argument to the next logical inclusion, Nicky, Then

1282
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 3: we need to, as the public, let Razer lose these

1283
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 3: matches in the first year in order to blood these

1284
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 3: players and get them ready for a World Cup year.

1285
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 20: Entirely agree, I'm not going to well if he loses

1286
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 20: too many matches, of course he'll be He'll be out

1287
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 20: the door.

1288
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 25: He's looking after his record.

1289
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Speaker 20: You just regarding your argument there, I don't know if

1290
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 20: he was looking after his record, because I.

1291
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Speaker 7: Can't fathom how he can start.

1292
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Speaker 16: T J.

1293
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Speaker 20: Pernardo at thirty two is playing his last test of

1294
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 20: bringing another young half back. You're we've got a lot

1295
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 20: of good half backs. They know a host and obviously

1296
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 20: the boyfriend Wellington's injured at the moment, but you know

1297
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 20: after I'm a big fan and I go ignores him

1298
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 20: with fucker target what he's been doing until he got where.

1299
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 20: Maybe he's injured the moment, but certainly wasn't in the squad.

1300
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 20: But there are a lot of good young halfbacks. TJ

1301
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 20: shouldn't be in there.

1302
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 4: I mean.

1303
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 3: Sentimental.

1304
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he should be sent I agree, you shouldn't be.

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Speaker 4: You've got to You've got to build.

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01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 3: You've got to start building.

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01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 4: You know, we don't have the depth we used.

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01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 5: To have, So do peams.

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01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 3: Don't look at that? Do raise it, hard en up. Well,

1310
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 3: it's not far to make the changes, is he.

1311
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Speaker 25: He's already shown that he's prepared to will the axe

1312
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 25: every test.

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Speaker 22: I don't know.

1314
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 25: Maybe he's signing his way a little bit too, but no,

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Speaker 25: I agree, I mean Courti's Radama should be starting.

1316
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Matt Lydia co legion status.

1317
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 20: Helberg winner for me, I know, look at it, and

1318
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 20: I'm one on your show here that I know. I'm

1319
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 20: kind of like Hellberg. It's a great big opinion fest,

1320
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 20: isn't it. But the reality is you know that I

1321
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 20: think oly Olympic gold and then they win the British

1322
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,919
Speaker 20: Open and she's just continuing her great form this week.

1323
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 4: Isn't she incredible to me? That those feats put her

1324
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 4: right at the.

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01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 20: Top, And so she's who I would sudenly pick for

1326
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 20: the halbibs if I was a judge. I'm not, So

1327
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Speaker 20: we'll just watch it in February.

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Speaker 3: I think it is.

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Speaker 20: But yeah, she's incredible and she's in a great run

1330
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 20: from and of course in motivation it's changed, right. She

1331
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 20: went through that period a year or two ago where

1332
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 20: she was thinking, you may be finishing before she was thirty,

1333
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 20: and she'd said that publicly.

1334
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 4: Now she's talking about winning the two majors that she

1335
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 4: hasn't yet got one to hope.

1336
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 20: We have all five, the US Open, USPGA and why

1337
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 20: why wouldn't she because she's that good?

1338
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you reckon? Nikky?

1339
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 16: Oh look you get it.

1340
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Speaker 25: Get no argument out of me around Lydia Coe. I

1341
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 25: have watched her progress through the years, and she has

1342
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 25: gone through ups and downs, and she has reinvented herself.

1343
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 25: She's completely changed her swing, she's changed coaches, she's gone

1344
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 25: from falling away to rising back to the top. She's

1345
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 25: a class act.

1346
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 3: She's the she's the Liam Lawson of golf if you.

1347
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 4: Like, for New Zealand.

1348
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 25: You know, just that beautiful, calm demeanor. She's got everything

1349
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 25: going for her. It would almost seem a shame if

1350
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Speaker 25: she actually retired, because I know that she'd been talking

1351
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 25: about retiring when she's achieved all these things.

1352
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Speaker 1: But like, who knows how far she can go?

1353
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 25: Yeah, she's definitely my hellberg. Golf on the international stage

1354
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 25: is incredibly difficult to be at the.

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Speaker 3: Top of well, all of these sports, the way that

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Speaker 3: they compete. Matt, I really enjoyed your text to me

1357
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,959
Speaker 3: this week. You were like, congratulations of having a baby.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to the beach? How are these two things?

1359
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 3: Of course I'm going to the beach to like going like, Hi,

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01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 3: it's not the nine in fifties only to hide away.

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Speaker 3: Are you having a baby?

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Speaker 20: Because we're going to be down to the beach is

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Speaker 20: probably at the same time, and so I might run

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01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 20: into you. I don't see you in the office anymore.

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Speaker 16: So you know that was a it was about.

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01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 4: It was just being nice. I think you said Buri

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01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 4: and Heather for.

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Speaker 3: A golfing partner or something. I say, yeah, I'm totally

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01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 3: coming to play golf with you.

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Speaker 7: We'll put the man in charge, child, I'll play with you.

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Speaker 25: Congratulations here though, while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just trying to line up a golf game

1373
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Speaker 3: with Matt. Nikki, if you could just shut up for

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01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 3: five minutes, Oh sorry, i'mzing, Thank you, Nikky, and I'm

1375
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Speaker 3: sorry to break the news.

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Speaker 4: To you like that.

1377
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Speaker 3: I thought you would have picked up on it by now.

1378
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: But anyway, there you go, guys, go and enjoy your

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Speaker 3: lovely sports weekend. Appreciated. That's Matt Brown and Nicky Styrs

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Speaker 3: our huddle on sports this weekend seven away from six

1381
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Speaker 3: on your.

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Speaker 1: Smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in your car

1383
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: on your drive home, Heather Dupless Allen drive with one

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01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: New Zealand one Giant Leap for business, you talk.

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Speaker 3: As hey, Peter Lewis is going to be with us

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01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 3: out of Hong Kong were Actually God only knows where

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Speaker 3: he is nowadays. He's decided he wants to go to

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Speaker 3: Bangkok a lot more so he might be out of Bangkok. Actually,

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Speaker 3: our Asia Business correspondent after half past six talk to

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Speaker 3: him about what's been going on it hopefully actually might

1391
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Speaker 3: be able to talk to him about the ballistic missile

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Speaker 3: that the Chinese launched. Five away from six. Now we

1393
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Speaker 3: have to talk about the climate. School strikes because the

1394
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 3: kiddies we're out wagging school again today, weren't they? And

1395
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Speaker 3: I actually starting to enjoy these things. At the start,

1396
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Speaker 3: I was like, I'll get back to school, but then

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Speaker 3: I was like, ah, these guys, that's not my job.

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Speaker 3: That's their parents' job. And if the parents want to

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Speaker 3: be drow parents like that and let them go out

1400
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Speaker 3: marching up and down the street at whatever you do,

1401
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 3: you you do you. But why I'm loving them now

1402
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 3: because it's because it's giving me an insight into what's

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Speaker 3: going on in these tiny little brains. Not tiny because

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01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 3: they're dumb, tiny because they're kids. Just want to be

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Speaker 3: absolutely clear today they have multiple demands because they now do.

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01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 3: It's nowadays. We have multiple demands, not just climate stuff.

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01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 3: They want climate justice, abolishing the fast Track Bill. Do

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01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 3: you think they actually do they know what the fast

1409
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 3: Track Bill is? Who knows? They want to abolish it?

1410
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 3: Honor the treaty for the government to stand in solidarity

1411
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 3: with the Palestinians and Gaza, uphold commitments to the Emissions

1412
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Speaker 3: Reduction Plan, correct harmful environmental policies, stop oil and gas exploration,

1413
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Speaker 3: regulate international flights and cruisers to reduce emissions. No Morphiji

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Speaker 3: holidays for you, and lower the voting age to sixteen,

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Speaker 3: just everything. Do you know what that looks awfully like?

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Speaker 3: That looks like the Green Party manifesto? Actually doesn't it?

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Speaker 3: Which I'm starting to really enjoy because the longer this

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Speaker 3: goes on, the more you go, oh, I see, okay,

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Speaker 3: you you've just been have you just been copying? And

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Speaker 3: have you used AI to copy and paste greens dot

1421
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Speaker 3: co dot and said? Is that just what happened? The

1422
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 3: longer it goes on, the more you realize this is actually.

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Speaker 3: At the start we were like, oh jeez, the kids

1424
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 3: are terrified of climate change. They are terrified.

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01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 14: We have to do something.

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Speaker 3: Now it's gone on for a few years, you go on, No,

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Speaker 3: they're not actually terrified of climate change. They're just young people.

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Speaker 3: Young people always are extremely idealistic and love to vote

1429
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 3: for wacky ideas like the Greens, and that's just all

1430
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Speaker 3: this is really, So it's no hatred on what they're

1431
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 3: up to. They're just doing what we all did when

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Speaker 3: we were young, and it's nice to know they're not

1433
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Speaker 3: that scared about the climate here the I'm a Ferinaki

1434
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Speaker 3: resident who's currently getting orange water orange water from the

1435
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Speaker 3: Hastings District Council. This voting crap is really brassing me off.

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01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 3: They need to spend money on fixing our water, not

1437
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 3: wasting money on field with stuff.

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Speaker 1: Amen, what's up what's down, what were the major calls

1439
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Speaker 1: and how will it affect the economy of the big business?

1440
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Speaker 1: Questions on the Business Hour with hither Duplicy, Alan and

1441
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Speaker 1: my Hr on News.

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Speaker 26: Talks av.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour, We're going

1444
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 3: to talk to Peter Lewis about the Chinese testing Yukes

1445
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 3: in the Pacific. Barry Soaple will rap the political week

1446
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 3: that was for us and Gavin gray is with us

1447
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Speaker 3: out of the UK right now at seven past six now.

1448
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Speaker 3: Foreign Minister Winston Peters did not mince his words today.

1449
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 3: He addressed the UN General Assembly in New York and

1450
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 3: called out the Security Council's permanent members for abusing their

1451
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 3: veto rights at a time when armed conflict is on

1452
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Speaker 3: the rise.

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Speaker 17: While some permanent members exercise miss draint in their use

1454
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:28,439
Speaker 17: of the veto, others consistently and frequently abuse this power.

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Speaker 3: He's called out Russia as the worst offender.

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Speaker 17: Not only does Russia lack the sincerity and moral determination

1457
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Speaker 17: required to make the United Nations work, but US delinguacy

1458
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Speaker 17: should be a clarion call for long overdue Security Council reform.

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Speaker 3: Bryce Wakefield is the chief executive of the Australian Institute

1460
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 3: of International Affairs and with US. Hey Bryce, Hi, Bryce,

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Speaker 3: We've been talking about reform of the Security Council for ages.

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Speaker 3: Are we actually going to get reform?

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Speaker 1: Do you think no?

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01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Look, there are numerous calls for

1465
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 2: reform and numerous ways and shapes coming from different countries.

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01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: But as long as the permanent, the five permanent members

1467
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Speaker 2: of the Security Council hold the veto, they're never going

1468
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: to that. They're going to give up that right. So,

1469
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Speaker 2: particularly around the VITO, there won't be reform of the

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Speaker 2: Security Council.

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Speaker 3: So why all of a sudden, what is it that

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Speaker 3: has prompted this level of criticism at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, it's obviously aimed at Russia and Russia's activities

1474
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 2: not only in Ukraine but on the Security Council, steming

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Speaker 2: the well the hopes that the Council might be used

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01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: to come to some sort of resolution. Basically, the Security

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Speaker 2: Council is not going to be able to go anywhere

1478
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Speaker 2: near Ukraine except in terms of the declarations of some

1479
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Speaker 2: of its members, because VITA will veto anything related to

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Speaker 2: a resolution on Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: I think it might have been hell in Clarke, former

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister of New Zealand. I'm not sure, but I

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01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 3: think it was her who said that if this carries

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01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 3: on the way that it does, it undermines the credibility

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01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 3: of the Security Council, and I think broadly the UN

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01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 3: is there is there a point where the credibility is

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Speaker 3: so dented that it just nobody listens to it anymore.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely it does, But it should be remembered that the

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Speaker 2: UN does have an important function beyond the Security Council.

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Speaker 2: I mean, UN agencies are still extremely active in war

1491
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: zones and other places of need across the world. The

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01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: UN is not just the Security Council, but it is

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01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: the most visible part of the United Nations. So a

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01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: sort of roadblock in the Security Council does look bad

1495
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: for the institution as a whole.

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Speaker 3: One of the criticisms was that the UN was unable

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Speaker 3: to enforce its own resolution on a ceasefire in the

1498
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Speaker 3: gard A situation. How could they possibly enforce it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's that's precisely the point I mean. I mean,

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Speaker 2: in terms of conflict situations, the United Nations as very

1501
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 2: much dependent a lot of the time on the parties

1502
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 2: that they're active in the areas in question and in Gaza,

1503
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 2: it doesn't really have much authority with the way that

1504
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: Israel has been prosecuting the war there.

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Speaker 3: Quite right, Bryce, I see our Foreign minister wants to

1506
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 3: get New Zealand to see he's going to start a

1507
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 3: campaign for us to have a seat in the twenty

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01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 3: thirty nine twenty forty season. Do you reckon we get it.

1509
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 2: New Zealand is actually pretty good at campaigning for the

1510
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: Security Council. In fact, when countries, as they do from

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01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: time to time, come down to consult with me about

1512
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: how to how to how to run campaigns on the

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01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 2: Security Council, I actually point them in the direction of

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01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: a guy called Simon Draper, who led New Zealand's New

1515
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 2: Zealand's bid for permanent Security Council seats some years ago.

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01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: New Zealand's especially knows how to get the Pacific for example,

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Speaker 2: which votes as a block onto its campaign to join

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Speaker 2: the Security Council. So it has some experience in this

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Speaker 2: area and I wouldn't count it out.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant stuff. It's good to talk to you, Bryce, Thanks

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01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 3: so much. Bryce Wakefield, Chief Executive of the Australian Institute

1522
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Speaker 3: of International Affairs Simon Draper obviously formerly the executive director

1523
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 3: of Asia New Zealand and I think left the position

1524
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Speaker 3: last year maybe to go back to m FAT Ministry

1525
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 3: Foreign Affairs for a senior role so well known around

1526
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 3: that part of the in diplomatic circles. A two Milk

1527
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 3: is in a trading halt. They have an announcement to

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01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 3: make at some stage, possibly about potential acquisition. It seems

1529
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 3: like what happened is that their shear have gained in

1530
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 3: price throughout the month and had gained as much as

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01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 3: sixteen percent this month, prompting the AX, because they're listed

1532
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 3: on the Australian Stock Market, to just get in touch

1533
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 3: and be like, hey guys, what's up with the price rise?

1534
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 3: And as a result for that, they wanted to be

1535
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 3: able to tell the AX what's going on, so they

1536
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 3: put themselves now to be put into a trading halt.

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01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 3: It's basically, as they say, to provide US with additional

1538
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 3: time to respond to asx's price query received this morning

1539
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 3: and to inform the market regarding a potential acquisition by US,

1540
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 3: and as a result they will remain there likely until

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01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 3: October one, which I think is Tuesday. So we should

1542
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 3: be expecting some sort of an announcement between now and Tuesday,

1543
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 3: thirteen past six.

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Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's headed due

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01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: for c Allen with the business hours thanks to my HR,

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01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: the HR platform for SME on newstalksb.

1547
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 3: By the way, update on the cricket Sri Lanka is

1548
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 3: three hundred and eighty six for four. We have in

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01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 3: our team currently somebody who doesn't stand sport very well.

1550
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 3: This is producer Andy, who says we're going to lose

1551
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 3: it because at this rate Sri Lanka is going to

1552
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 3: end up with a million runs in this particular innings.

1553
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 3: So I think that we I think you get the gist.

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01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 3: It's not going well for us at all. Sixteen past six,

1555
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 3: Let's write the political week that was with Barry sob

1556
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 3: Our senior political correspondent. Welcome back, Barry, Hello again, Heather

1557
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 3: so Andrew Coster is gone and it's very hard to

1558
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,879
Speaker 3: shake the feeling that this was engineered.

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01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,560
Speaker 9: Oh, I think you know right from the time that

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01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 9: Mark Mitchell, the Minister of Police in fact wrote her

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01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 9: very public letter saying what his expectations of the commissioner were.

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01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 9: It was writing on the wall time, because you know,

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01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 9: Andrew Costa was well, they all are political appointments, and

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01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 9: it was just in dern overlooking some more senior members

1565
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 9: of the police force that would have been expected to

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01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 9: have been the commissioner at the time, and she decided

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01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 9: that Andrew Coste was the man. You know, Andrew Costa

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01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 9: is a a very nice human being, but he's not

1569
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 9: a tough cop of the old sort. And for him

1570
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,520
Speaker 9: to say that the highlight of his time as commissioner

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01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 9: was finally clearing the protesters from the lawn out the

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01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 9: front of Parliament and what we saw by that, the

1573
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 9: flames and the cobblestones being thrown at the police. It

1574
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 9: was an appalling scene and in fact they should have

1575
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 9: been cleared out long before that. And in fact Costra

1576
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 9: himself said that he at one point was going to

1577
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 9: tow the cars from the surrounding streets. Never happened, and

1578
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 9: he was preyed upon by senior members of the Labor

1579
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 9: government and finally did what he should have done long

1580
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 9: before then. So having said that, you know, you can't

1581
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,600
Speaker 9: take anything away from him as a person. And I

1582
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 9: think the new job that he's going to the Social

1583
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 9: Investment Agency is exactly the sort of work that he

1584
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 9: would be se.

1585
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you on Mattrick. The Greens have

1586
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 3: got some regrets about having ever gone down this path

1587
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 3: of the waker jumping.

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01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 9: Look, oh, I think you know, darling Tana has played

1589
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 9: them at their own game, if you like. I mean,

1590
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 9: she's dragged it out so much, and she looks set

1591
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 9: to be dragging it up more. They've got that meeting

1592
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 9: on October seventeenth, if they decide on the walker jumping legislation.

1593
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 9: You're probably not aware, But then she has got twenty

1594
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 9: one days after that to decide what she's going to do,

1595
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 9: whether she will step aside under the walker jumping legislation

1596
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 9: or fight for her right to remain in parlor.

1597
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 3: Even get to that meeting, because she she has she

1598
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 3: will make a decision on whether to appeal the High

1599
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 3: Court decision.

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Speaker 7: That's one course of actually.

1601
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 3: So she might appeal. They don't even get to have

1602
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 3: that meeting. I mean, this is just this could potentially

1603
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 3: turn into a farsh I.

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01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 9: Think you'll find that the Green Party will have that meeting.

1605
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 9: I think it's set in concrete now that they're not

1606
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 9: going to be dissuaded from getting together and deciding the

1607
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 9: next course of action regardless of whether she appeals the

1608
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 9: court decision.

1609
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 3: Do you think the government's done the right thing ordering

1610
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 3: the public servants back to work?

1611
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 9: Absolutely? And you know, if for nothing else, to restore

1612
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 9: a bit of business, particularly in Wellington, to the inner city,

1613
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 9: and you only have to walk down Lampton Key and

1614
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 9: talk to the food outlets there for a start, and

1615
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 9: they've been doing a starve since COVID, and ready it

1616
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 9: was COVID that started this mass working from home exercise

1617
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 9: and to have it extended through until now is patently ridiculous.

1618
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,799
Speaker 9: You imagine the amount of office space that sits vacant

1619
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 9: in Wellington that's paid for by the taxpayer. I mean

1620
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 9: there will be many, many thousands of square meters. I

1621
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 9: would imagine that really I could be occupied by others,

1622
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 9: but they keep it on because they've got a public

1623
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 9: service of the size that should ordinarily occupy it.

1624
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 3: Whinston Peters is having a good time in the year

1625
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 3: un isn't he? In speech?

1626
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 14: Well, yes.

1627
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 7: It is strong stuff.

1628
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 9: And you know Winston as Foreign Minister, he really does

1629
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 9: cut the mustard when you consider that he followed on

1630
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 9: from Nanayama Huta that. I don't know whether she ever

1631
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 9: addressed the UN the General Assembly, that's what he's done today.

1632
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 9: But yesterday, of course he was speaking from the New

1633
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 9: Zealand chair at the Security Council, and not that we

1634
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 9: have a position on the Security Council, but there was

1635
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 9: a debate and Winston told them to be quiet whilst

1636
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 9: he was speaking. And you've got to say, look, I've

1637
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 9: been in the UN on many of an occasion when

1638
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 9: our leaders get up to speak, and it's normally always

1639
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 9: late in the day because New Zealand is such a

1640
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 9: small and relatively insignificant country, and we're at the tail

1641
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 9: end of the day and everybody's standing up, packing their

1642
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 9: bags ready to go home, and it must be very

1643
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 9: disconcerting if you're trying to speak and people are doing

1644
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 9: that and getting into conversation.

1645
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 3: She's got a healthy ego.

1646
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, she did.

1647
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 3: Actually she did address the Generalist, thank you. It was

1648
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 3: the twenty fourth of September last year, so it was

1649
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 3: around about theme just before the election.

1650
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 9: So this is why always see she got it.

1651
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember, but she got a

1652
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 3: sort of after not having done her job like virtually

1653
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 3: at ALLLL No, she got a burst of energy towards

1654
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 3: the end of the term. She was like, oh, hold on,

1655
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:22,719
Speaker 3: let's get some air points and off.

1656
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 9: She went, and look what happened. She lost a seat.

1657
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too right, Barry, thanks very much. Maybe that's

1658
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 3: why she wasn't flowing around Barry's sober senior political correspondent

1659
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 3: rapping the political pit week that was okay. This is

1660
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 3: the stat that demonstrates how tough it is out there,

1661
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 3: how much of a punish the New Zealand cricketers are

1662
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: having to undergo with the hands of the Sri Lankans.

1663
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 3: A Jazz Patel has bowled thirty six overs, he has

1664
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 3: got zero wickets and he has been smacked for one

1665
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 3: hundred and thirteen runs. And I'm pretty sure I picked

1666
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 3: that stat off the tally before the last over that

1667
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 3: he may have bowled. So it's probably a whole lot worse.

1668
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 3: Six twenty two.

1669
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro would us playing economics. It's all

1670
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: on The Business Hour with Heather duple, Cy Allen and

1671
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: my Hr. The HR solution for busy SMEs New stalks b.

1672
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 3: Six twenty four. The American TV networks are loving what's

1673
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 3: going on with the Hurricane Helene. They pretend that they don't,

1674
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 3: but they are loving it. Breaking news. It's now a

1675
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:22,560
Speaker 3: Fox Weather alert. It is now a Category one some

1676
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 3: sort of event something breaking. Honestly, they're just breaking all

1677
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 3: the time, and it's I think they're just breaking to

1678
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 3: let you know that there's We're going to cross to

1679
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 3: another correspondence standing in the weather. This guy is live

1680
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 3: on air while these power flesh flashes are going on.

1681
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 12: Then you already the issues with flash flooding, and then

1682
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 12: the trees get uprooted.

1683
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 14: Whoa did you see that power flash?

1684
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 12: Hurry?

1685
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: I was surprised. I didn't there was another one. Yeah,

1686
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: it was at least two. It's still.

1687
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 23: Oh my gosh, I was three or frror right there.

1688
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 3: I love it. They love it. They pretend they don't.

1689
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, people die, now look at this wed.

1690
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 3: It's awesome. A power flash is a flash of light

1691
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 3: which is caused by arking electrical discharges from damaged electrical equipment.

1692
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 3: So I'd be I'd be telling old mate who's talking

1693
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 3: to Ari to get indoors, because that does not feel

1694
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 3: like a safe situation to me. Now, a lot of

1695
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 3: there's a lot of criticism of these these reporters standing

1696
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 3: out there in the weather. But I love it. I

1697
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 3: love seeing them out there because you can you can

1698
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 3: sticky camera in the window and you can film out there,

1699
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 3: and you can show me that there that the water

1700
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 3: is like three quarters of the way up the stop sign,

1701
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 3: and all that tells me is it's deep. But it

1702
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 3: doesn't tell me how bad it is to be out there.

1703
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 3: I need to see the guy in the blue jacket

1704
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 3: standing there with like a like like what looks like

1705
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 3: a garden hose spraying him in the face. I need

1706
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 3: to see that to understand how bad it is. There's

1707
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 3: one guy out there and with a bicycle helmet on

1708
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 3: in case something gets blown into his head. That's how

1709
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 3: bad it is anyway. So I just want to say

1710
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 3: kir kaha to them because they're absolutely earning their dollars

1711
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 3: out there, and they're probably gonna end up with pneumonia.

1712
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 3: Do you remember the story about Mona This is at

1713
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 3: Tasmania's Museum of Old and New Art, and the kafuffle

1714
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 3: that had gone on about them deciding to have a

1715
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 3: lady's lounge and then they banned the blokes from going

1716
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,520
Speaker 3: into the ladies lounge and then they had some picassos

1717
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 3: and the ladies lounge, and all the blokes wanted to

1718
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 3: see the pocasos and the toilets of the ladies lounge.

1719
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 3: And then it turned and that went to a tribunal,

1720
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 3: and then it turned out in fact they weren't pcasos

1721
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 3: at all. But oh mate, the woman who was running

1722
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 3: the exhibition had basically painted the picasso's like she is.

1723
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 3: This woman is so wacky and out there, it's actually

1724
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 3: quite fun. And I've got an update on this for you.

1725
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 3: So it went to the tribunal in Tasmania, which it's

1726
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 3: Tasmania Civil and Administrative Tribunal, which ordered them to open

1727
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 3: the exhibition up to blokes and so immediately they shut

1728
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 3: their doors. This was in April. They now Mona, so

1729
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 3: they've been ordered open up. They then appealed to the

1730
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 3: Supreme Court and the Supreme Court has found in their favor.

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Speaker 3: Today has said that this is totally fine to be

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Speaker 3: discriminatory if the point of the discrimination is to promote

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Speaker 3: equal opportunity for a group of women who are disadvantage.

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Speaker 3: That's women. By the way, women are disadvantage or have

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Speaker 3: a special need, that's us women who have a special

1736
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 3: need hormone patches. Anyway, all of that, I was like, whatever,

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Speaker 3: I don't need to be told that I'm some sort

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Speaker 3: of I like that there's something wrong with me. I'm

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01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 3: disabled now apparently. But this is fun. The one, the

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Speaker 3: one who's created it, says the verdict demonstrates a simple truth.

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Speaker 3: Women are better than men.

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Speaker 26: Headlines next, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The

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Speaker 26: Business Hour with Heather Dupless and my HR the HR

1744
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 26: solution for.

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Speaker 1: Busy SMEs on news talks it be lost my mind.

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Speaker 8: Nobody beas me saying nobody don't need me.

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Speaker 3: Cause we have another company. Oh, by the way, Kevin

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Speaker 3: grays with us in ten minutes time out of the UK.

1749
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Speaker 3: We have another big company sending staff back to the office.

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01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 3: This is obviously post Amazon doing it last week and

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01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 3: then our own government deciding the public servants have to

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Speaker 3: head into the office and do their money behind their

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01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 3: desks dwell technologies. This time, I've told their global sales

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01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 3: team employees that if they're able to work from the

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01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 3: company offices, they have to go back five days a

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01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 3: week starting in three days time, so there's not a

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01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 3: lot of time for them to get around get their

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01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 3: heads around this idea. Not a lot of time for

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01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 3: them to have a winge, not a lot of time

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01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 3: for them to you know, work out what the cost

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Speaker 3: of the train ticket from the widered up at Wellington is.

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Speaker 3: It's just and that they don't have time to go

1763
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,799
Speaker 3: buy some more gears, you know, for their office attire.

1764
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 3: Just got to go straight back in their trackie decks

1765
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 3: and their dressing gowns. The reason they're doing it, apparently

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01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 3: is because they want to leverage collaborative environment and grow skills,

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01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 3: which requires everybody to be in the office working remotely

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01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 3: should be the exception rather than a routine. Now, they

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01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 3: do have some remote sales team members who obviously have

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01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 3: to go around doing selling stuff and whatever. They don't

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01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 3: have to be in there five days a week, but

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Speaker 3: the rest of them do. Now, if you hear people

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Speaker 3: in Wellington particularly complaining about this, just remember you have

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Speaker 3: got a number of a growing number of corporates around

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Speaker 3: the world burg corporates who are going here five days

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Speaker 3: a week. Thanks go back into the office. And if

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Speaker 3: they're doing it, why are they doing it? Probably is

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01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 3: good for business, And if it's good for business in

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Speaker 3: the private sector, it's going to be good for business

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Speaker 3: in the public sector. Two twenty three away from seven,

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Speaker 3: heither do Peter Lewis Asia Business correspondents with US. Now,

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Speaker 3: Hey Peter, Hello Heather, Peter. This missile that's been sent

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Speaker 3: into the water in the Pacific. Is this a political message?

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Speaker 5: I think it is.

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Speaker 23: Yes.

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Speaker 21: There's supposed to be a call coming up between Joe

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Speaker 21: Biden and President Jijing being over over the next few weeks,

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Speaker 21: and I think the idea is it's just sending out

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Speaker 21: a message before that call that you know, China is

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Speaker 21: talking for a position of strength.

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 21: It's not the underdog anymore. It's building up it's nuclear

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Speaker 21: arsenal at a very very fast rate. The only problem,

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Speaker 21: of course with this is it's going to cause a

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Speaker 21: lot of concern amongst its neighbors, particularly Japan and South Korea.

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Speaker 21: And it's only going to embolden Japan in particular, which

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Speaker 21: has its prime minister leadership election going on at the moment,

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Speaker 21: to take an even more defensive stut spend more money

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Speaker 21: on defense and expand its own weapons. And in fact,

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Speaker 21: it sailed one of its warships through the Straits of

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Speaker 21: Taiwan about a week or so ago, we've we've just learned.

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Speaker 21: So although China's Defense ministry says this is really just

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Speaker 21: a sort of a routine arrangement in its annual training plan,

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01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 21: actually it really isn't because they haven't done this since

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Speaker 21: the year, since the nineteen eighties, So it is more

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Speaker 21: of a show of force. And I think it's just

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Speaker 21: really to send a message to the President Biden in

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Speaker 21: this upcoming talk.

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Speaker 3: But what do they expect, how do they expect the

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Speaker 3: US to react to it? I mean, what is it

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Speaker 3: that they expect that the UIs is going to do

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Speaker 3: in response.

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Speaker 21: I sometimes think that they don't think through two much

1814
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 21: about what the response is going to be other than

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01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 21: other countries should take China seriously. That's its number one

1816
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 21: concern that you know, we are now a global power.

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Speaker 21: We're not a developing nation. We are the second largest

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Speaker 21: economy in the world. We've got one of the largest

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Speaker 21: militaries now in the world, a whole range of weaponry

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Speaker 21: that we've just developed, and you need to take us seriously.

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01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 21: And that's the message that they're trying to get through.

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Speaker 21: And I don't think they see too far in advance

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Speaker 21: what either what the reaction is going to be and

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Speaker 21: maybe don't even care too much about what the reaction

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Speaker 21: is going to be to that, So.

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Speaker 3: Just a flix for flixer's sake. Then, Hey, the central Bank,

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Speaker 3: I see has cut interest rates. What do you make

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Speaker 3: of this?

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Speaker 21: Well, this is a whole range of policies that have

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Speaker 21: literally been launched all at once in almost a sort

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Speaker 21: of a massive stimulus bazooka.

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Speaker 2: This week.

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Speaker 21: The central Bank, as you say, has cut interest rates,

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Speaker 21: is also cut the amount of funds that banks need

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Speaker 21: to keep at the central Bank, known as the reserve

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Speaker 21: ratio requirements. The central government, the polyp Bureau, has come

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01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 21: out and said it's going to expand fiscal policy in

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Speaker 21: particular to try and boost domestic consumption and also to

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01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 21: try and stabilize the housing market. They put money aside

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Speaker 21: to cut mortgages and also to lower the doubt payments

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Speaker 21: to try and boost the housing markets. And they're even

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Speaker 21: allowing fund managers, institutions, insurance companies to come and borrow

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01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 21: from the central Bank to go and invest in the

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01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 21: stock market to try and boost the stock market. So

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Speaker 21: it's a whole agenda of measures the likes of which

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Speaker 21: we haven't seen for a very very long time, and

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Speaker 21: I think the message that we should take from this

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Speaker 21: is clearly Beijing is very very concerned about the state

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Speaker 21: of the economy. Must realize by now it's not going

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Speaker 21: to meet that five percent growth target, and if it

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01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 21: wants to have any hope of doing that, it really

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Speaker 21: has to take some major steps.

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Speaker 26: Now.

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Speaker 21: Whether these will work is going to be another matter,

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01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 21: because the problems are very deep seated. As we've spoken

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Speaker 21: about in the past, the property market. You know, the

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01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 21: average household has lost about sixty thousand US dollars on

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Speaker 21: the property market. Consumers don't want to spend, and it

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Speaker 21: doesn't matter how much money you throw at them. If

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Speaker 21: they're fearful of hanging onto their jobs. They see big

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01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 21: losses in the property market, they're not going to go

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Speaker 21: out and increase their consumption. So how much of this

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Speaker 21: work remains to be seen, But nevertheless, it sent out

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Speaker 21: a hugely positive signal to the markets. The markets have

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Speaker 21: had their best week in years that hang saying is

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Speaker 21: up over ten percent this week. Similarly, the CSI three

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Speaker 21: hundred in China had a huge week on the back

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Speaker 21: of all of this, because clearly it's seen as being

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Speaker 21: good news for the stock markets.

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Speaker 3: Peter, it's always good to talk to you about. Really

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Speaker 3: appreciate it and look forward to already for next week.

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Speaker 3: Peter Lewis our Asian business correspondent. Do you remember a

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Speaker 3: couple of hours ago I was telling you that that

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Speaker 3: somebody texted and said there's no New Zealand beef at

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Speaker 3: the local New World or whatever. It was getting quite

1876
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 3: a few texts to say, yeah, this is a bit

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01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 3: of a problem. Gavin stext through saying Hither, it's true

1878
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 3: story about New Zealand beef. I've been a butcher for

1879
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Speaker 3: thirty years. These are the worst supply levels I've ever seen.

1880
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Speaker 3: You go eighteen, ayway from seven.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duper c Ellan and my

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01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: Hr The HR Solution for busy smys on News Talk zb.

1884
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Speaker 3: Gray UK corresponding with US Now Evening, Gavin Hither had

1885
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Speaker 3: listen whise Ireland not going to pull the peacekeepers out

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Speaker 3: of Lebanon.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, they say they're well trained. They say that, Okay,

1888
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Speaker 19: at the moment doing an important job. This has all

1889
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 19: come about, of course, because lots of kind trees are

1890
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Speaker 19: saying to their nationals get out of the Lebanon now

1891
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Speaker 19: if you're there, because things are not safe. In fact,

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Speaker 19: things are getting worse and not better. The Irish Defense

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Speaker 19: Forces have three hundred and eighty two personnel serving between

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Speaker 19: the United Nations missions there, and they've been serving there

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01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 19: since nineteen seventy eight. But of course we've seen a

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Speaker 19: massive displacement in leblin ninety thousand people since Monday, I

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Speaker 19: mean just in that period of time, and Israel carrying

1898
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Speaker 19: out a new wave of extensive strikes. So the Irish

1899
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Speaker 19: government has urged all Irish civilians in Lebanon to leave immediately,

1900
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 19: and indeed the tea shot. The Prime Minister Simon Harris,

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01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 19: met the Leader of Palestine on Wednesday in New York

1902
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Speaker 19: and condemned the strikes in Lebanon, and then as well

1903
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Speaker 19: had a quick meeting with the United Nations Secretary General

1904
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Speaker 19: Antonio Guterresh having received a situational report on peacekeeping mission.

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Speaker 19: And of course se Keir Starmer, the British Prime Minister,

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Speaker 19: has been in the United Nations General Assembly. He gave

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Speaker 19: a speech calling for Israel and Hesbela to step back

1908
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Speaker 19: from the brink were his words. The Israeli Prime Minister,

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01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 19: though saying earlier news of a potential ceasefire deal were

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Speaker 19: not true.

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Speaker 3: Gavin has Elon Musk excuse me? Has Elon Musk been

1912
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Speaker 3: snubbed deliberately by the UK government.

1913
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Speaker 19: That's the way he has perceived it, and I think

1914
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 19: there's an element of truth in it. You'll remember that

1915
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Speaker 19: Sakir Starmer, our Prime Minister, and Elon Musk had a

1916
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 19: bit of a spat during the riots of the last month.

1917
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Speaker 19: Elon Musk saying there was a two tier policing system

1918
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Speaker 19: here in the UK that if you were Muslim or

1919
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 19: supporting Islamic beliefs, then you were treated more kindly than

1920
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Speaker 19: if you had right wing beliefs. It's something that the

1921
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 19: police and politicians they're both condemned. But Sekre Starmer hit

1922
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 19: back on X and it just went on to an

1923
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 19: ongoing spat. But now Elon Musk has not been invited

1924
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Speaker 19: to the UK government's International Investment Summit as the world's

1925
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 19: richest person, whom thought he would have been, but it

1926
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Speaker 19: is thought that owing to those social media posts about

1927
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Speaker 19: the riots, he didn't get invited. He has then fired

1928
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Speaker 19: back Elon Musk on X saying I don't think anyone

1929
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:11,520
Speaker 19: should go to the UK when they're releasing convicted pedophiles

1930
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Speaker 19: in order to imprison people for social media posts. What

1931
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Speaker 19: he's referring to, of course, are the fact that the

1932
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Speaker 19: UK government has released people early from their sentences because

1933
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Speaker 19: of prison over crowding. However, just to correct things, no

1934
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Speaker 19: people serving sentences for sex offenses were included. So once again,

1935
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Speaker 19: this ongoing spack keeps going backwards and forwards. And indeed

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Speaker 19: Elon Musk said, who knows? I might have invested hundreds

1937
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Speaker 19: of millions of pounds for a Tesla plant in the UK,

1938
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Speaker 19: but will never know.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, So what is that supposed to mean?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Es in like he would have done it, or he

1942
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Speaker 3: would have done it if it wasn't for this type thing.

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Speaker 19: That's the that's the possibility of that. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 19: there's lots going around about it.

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Speaker 3: He's such a breadth. Hey Now on that subject though,

1946
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Speaker 3: of the people being released out of this is getting

1947
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Speaker 3: even more awkward for the government, isn't it, because now

1948
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Speaker 3: we're finding out actually the wrong people will let it out.

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Speaker 1: Yes, very much so.

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Speaker 19: Originally, of course, we had the hearing that there weren't

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Speaker 19: enough electronic tags to go around and monitor those that

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Speaker 19: have been released. Then we heard of a one prisoner

1953
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Speaker 19: being released and within hours was back behind bars or

1954
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Speaker 19: on suspicion of a sexual assault. Well, now we learn

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Speaker 19: that that person, a thirty one year old called a

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Speaker 19: Mari Ward, is one of thirty seven prisoners who should

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Speaker 19: never have been eligible for early release because they'd breach

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Speaker 19: restraining orders. Now, of course, restraining orders are orders that

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Speaker 19: prevent you from either a particular course of action, maybe

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Speaker 19: seeing somebody or going to somebody's home, particularly of course

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Speaker 19: if they're a victim or a witness. And it would

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Speaker 19: appear that the people who were doing the administration of

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Speaker 19: the early release scheme did not have a red flag

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Speaker 19: on people who had breached restraining orders. And the thirty

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Speaker 19: one year old who has investigated hours after being released,

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Speaker 19: had breached a restraining order and should never have been released.

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Speaker 19: So I'm afraid this story keeps giving one dreads to

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Speaker 19: think what will happen next? But the idea they're going

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Speaker 19: to release another couple of thousand prisoners early in another

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Speaker 19: couple of weeks is really pretty despairing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you what, Gavin. Thank you, enjoy your weekend.

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Speaker 3: May it always good to talk to you. Gavin Gray

1973
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Speaker 3: are UK correspondent. Hey on a two. Business disc is

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01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 3: reporting this is on a two being in the trading

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Speaker 3: halt pending some sort of acquisition or something like that

1976
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 3: that needs to be announced. Business disc is reporting this.

1977
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Speaker 3: Craig's Investment Partner's head of institutional equities research, Stephen Ridgewell

1978
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 3: says that the market has been expecting A two Milk

1979
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 3: to buy its own plant in New Zealand. He noted

1980
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 3: there is excess capacity in New Zealand right now, and

1981
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 3: with a billion dollars on A two Milk's balance sheet quote,

1982
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 3: there's likely a deal to be done. So maybe that's

1983
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,600
Speaker 3: what's going on here. Times of change and though on

1984
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 3: this is on in New Zealand and Captain Dave Morgan

1985
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 3: is going to step aside. For I feel like Dave

1986
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 3: Morgan's been there since since so she can tell you

1987
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 3: when nineteen eighty five, basically since I was born. Dave

1988
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 3: Morgan has been there since I was born. He is

1989
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 3: going to step aside from his role. This is not

1990
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 3: altogether leave leave the place, just the chief Operational Integrity

1991
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 3: and Safety Officer role. He will continue to fly for

1992
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 3: the National Carrier, and I am sorry to see that

1993
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 3: he is going from the from the executive team, because

1994
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 3: I reckon he is just about one of the best

1995
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 3: things in New Zealand has got you want you want

1996
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 3: to understand something about planes. Dave Morgan's you man. You

1997
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 3: want in New Zealand to sound like a friendly keyw

1998
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 3: like somebody you want you want to roll out, somebody

1999
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 3: talk on behalf of n New zald that everybody likes.

2000
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 3: Dave Morgan's your man. So yeah. Sad to see this

2001
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 3: happen nine away from seven.

2002
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 1: Whether it's macrove micro or just playing economics. It's all

2003
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 1: on The Business Hour with Heather duple c Ellen and

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01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:55,680
Speaker 1: my HR, the HR platform for sme US Talk sp.

2005
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Speaker 3: Heather, I trucked four dairy cows to the sale yards today.

2006
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 3: Given our breed profile, these are the highest prices I've

2007
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 3: seen in three decades, average about one hundred dollars. Hither

2008
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 3: all of our beef goes to Silver Firm Farms that's

2009
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 3: sold at supermarkets all over New Zealand, Prime Angus Beef.

2010
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 3: So Amber saying that basically you can you still can

2011
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 3: get some New Zealand beef in the supermarkets. Chris reckons

2012
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 3: what the problem is is that New Zealand beef is

2013
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 3: currently gold in the US because they've got a massive

2014
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 3: shortage and that could take about five years to recover.

2015
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 3: We are the fourth equal supplier of beef to the

2016
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 3: US and the US is now New Zealand's biggest beef market,

2017
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 3: replacing China. So if you are not loving the fact

2018
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 3: that you have to buy the Aussie meats in the supermarket,

2019
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,759
Speaker 3: might go on a while of If Chris is correct

2020
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 3: as predicted on this show, Oasis is going to be

2021
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 3: doing an international tour after all. That was not a surprise.

2022
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 3: That was obviously you're not going to get those two

2023
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 3: clowns together who want to sort of stab each other

2024
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 3: on the daily. You're not going to get them together

2025
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 3: without making maximum amounts of money, do you know what

2026
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:55,799
Speaker 3: I mean? And you're not going to get maximum amounts

2027
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:57,680
Speaker 3: of money from five or six shows around the UK.

2028
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 3: There's some UK shows and some EU sh shows and

2029
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 3: then after that out you go into the world friends

2030
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 3: and because of course now that because we're all hyped,

2031
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 3: we're like, oh I missed out on my tickets to Manchester,

2032
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,600
Speaker 3: Well now I can go to Toronto, you know that

2033
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 3: kind of thing. So enemy is the music. The music

2034
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 3: outfit is reporting it's got its hands on the list

2035
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 3: of cities. Toronto, Chicago, New Jersey, Boston, La Mexico City, Soul,

2036
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:29,520
Speaker 3: Tokyo getting warmer, getting warmer, Melbourne, Sydney, sal Paolo, Santiago,

2037
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 3: Buenos Aires. Right over the top of us, just Gon,

2038
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 3: just flowing right, do we not even know? Right over

2039
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 3: the top? No Auckland, No Dunedin, no Wellington. So if

2040
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,600
Speaker 3: you want to see the oasis, you're gonna have to go, unfortunately,

2041
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:46,640
Speaker 3: to Australia. This is Tato started this. So if you

2042
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 3: want to blame anybody for why it's okay now to

2043
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 3: just give an entire population of five million people the miss,

2044
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 3: it's Tata's fault. Andy.

2045
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 14: Yeah. Well, we really are just a big city, aren't we.

2046
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 16: We are?

2047
01:37:57,960 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 14: We really are. We've got to accept that. We've got

2048
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 14: to be fear. We've got quite a few I know this.

2049
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Speaker 27: I feel like I say this every time on the

2050
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 27: show at this time of night, that we've got a

2051
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 27: lot of artists coming. We've got Travis Scott, We've got

2052
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 27: Luke Colmbs, We've got uh Che Phineas Phineas. No, there

2053
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 27: was another one?

2054
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 14: Oh Coldplay?

2055
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's pretty good. Were you doing a dad joke?

2056
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 16: There?

2057
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,679
Speaker 3: No genuine you just actually genuinely forgot Coldplay?

2058
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 14: Yeah, so did I, though it's not a massive copy

2059
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 14: hold on what about?

2060
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 4: No?

2061
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 3: Do you know who you also forgot?

2062
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 14: You're going to the we My family is young the Wigels,

2063
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 14: but you're going to the Wiggels.

2064
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to the Wiggles, and we're double parenting it,

2065
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 3: so like we are going both parents to the Wiggles.

2066
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 3: That's great because I want to see the joy on

2067
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 3: his phone.

2068
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:46,560
Speaker 14: Who's your favorite Wiggle? I?

2069
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 3: You know, I started out with Lockey, but then Lockie

2070
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 3: started getting irritating, sort of in a kind of like

2071
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 3: man child way, And then I started liking Simon no

2072
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 3: hold on bearwith Then I started liking the yellow girl

2073
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 3: with the one who left Emma's tastag so she's lovely.

2074
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 3: And now I quite like Simon because he's just so

2075
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 3: daggy and weird. It's kind of fun. Has a voice.

2076
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 3: Who has a voice like that, you know what I mean?

2077
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 14: Simon? Yeah, he's pretty endearing though, isn't he?

2078
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 3: He seems really lovely do you know who I don't

2079
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,480
Speaker 3: like strong John Anthony.

2080
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:23,560
Speaker 14: Car He's the backbone of the whole. I don't know

2081
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 14: how he creates the whole.

2082
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 3: He's lazy. He doesn't let him do the actions properly.

2083
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I got lots of thoughts on this.

2084
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:34,799
Speaker 3: It's a long time watching The Wiggles.

2085
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 14: I've learned working on the show. You have opinions on

2086
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:38,599
Speaker 14: literally everything.

2087
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, literally, I literally have found my dream job.

2088
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 14: Then, okay. Michael Boublaz brought out a new album today.

2089
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 27: It's a great greatest hits album released at four o'clock today,

2090
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 27: So it's another money maker as he heads into his

2091
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 27: Christmas album, which is a biggest money maker for him.

2092
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 27: It's got all his classics, twenty one essential tracks. You

2093
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 27: can get it now.

2094
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 3: Boy, how many greatest hits has he put out?

2095
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 9: Though?

2096
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 27: I reckon you're hitting into the Michael Boublau stage of

2097
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 27: your life. Also yeah forty yeah, probably?

2098
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so now you know what to get me for Christmas?

2099
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 3: All right, see you later. Enjoy your weekend.

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