1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Muriel's ass he correspondence for US. 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 2: He mass, hello here they're going to happen. 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Any updates on this chap who's been running around in 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: the bush? 5 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: Does he Freeman know? There's not? 6 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 3: There's a bit of interest, I must say, renewed interests 7 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 3: in his wife. Apparently she was in the in the 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 3: van the bus when mister Freeman allegedly opened fire and 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: killed two police. She's been arrested briefly, along with a 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: fifteen year old boy. We understand her son, but they've 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: been released on bail, like I presume on bail. And no, 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: there's been no update that I'm familiar with. I've been 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 3: listening to the news all day and reading across different websites, 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: but no, I've seen nothing. 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: They're still looking for him. Day nine, Day ten, Day nine. 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Take on this is this? When does this get embarrassing 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: for the cops? 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: Well, look, he may be dead, he may have taken 19 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 3: his own life. And it's a it's an extremely rough area. 20 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: There are all sorts of abandoned mine shafts, there are caves, 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: there are you know, it's extremely rugged country and if 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: you want to go out there and do away with 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: yourself at the bottom of a mind shaft. 24 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: Will they be going to find you? 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's that sort of country. 26 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: Heather, Yeah, fair enough. 27 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Hey, what's this robodebt update? 28 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: Well, the government just go back to the start. 29 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: Under Scott Morrison, there was this algorithm used by the 30 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: Department of Social Security. It was a new piece of 31 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: tech that they said, oh that you know, we'll be 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: able to catch welfare cheats. Well, they rounded up nearly 33 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 3: five hundred thousand people and said you owe the government money. 34 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 3: And in many in almost every case, it was absolute horsepoo. 35 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: It was rubbish. This algorithm got it completely wrong, and 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 3: in some cases people took out big debts they couldn't 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: afford and could never repay, to try and repay this 38 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: debt tragically, sadly, in other cases, people took their own 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: lives because they just said, well, we can't pay this 40 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: debt and I don't know where it's come from, and 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: I can't I can't going anymore now. Under Scott Morrison's leadership, 42 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: that was the algorithm used, and the government at that 43 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: time agreed to pay up one hundred and twelve million 44 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: dollars in compensation. Well, lawyers for those involved went. 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: Back asid your kidding. We run a whole lot more 46 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: than that. 47 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: And now with the approval still to come from the 48 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: Federal Court, another four hundred and seventy five million dollars 49 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: has been approved to be paid, so it's well over 50 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: half a billion Australian dollars. Now that you know, if 51 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: the Federal Court signs off on this, we'll go to 52 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: those who were affected by this dreadful piece of government, 53 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: just complete government bungling. 54 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: What about John Howard? What's he had to say? 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, he's a bit like Bob Catter. 56 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: Perhaps they're just too old and we shouldn't go to 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: them for headlines anymore. But I mean John Howard's come 58 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: out swinging against Anthony Alberneze's decision to formally recognize the 59 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: Palestinian state. Elbow was off to the United Nations General 60 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: Assembly this month, and that confirmation during a speech to 61 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 3: the UN, now Alexander down Of, the former Liberal Foreign 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: minister one time would be Prime Minister and mister Howard 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: have signed a joint statement saying. 64 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: They're absolutely poor by Elbow's decision. 65 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: Accusing pardon me, they said, the former Labor Prime Minister 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: Bob Hawk was a very strong friend of Israel. What 67 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: Albanese he's done, according to John Howard, is a betrayal 68 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: of Israel by Australia. According to mister Howard, the only 69 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: democracy in the Middle East now was under threat from Australia. 70 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: It's all about, he says, domestic political gain. Maybe you 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: shred a truth for more than that, but reducing statehood 72 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: to a prize that can be simply handed out at 73 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: the whim of any political leader. I'm not sure where 74 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: this has come from or why it's come at this 75 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: particular time, but certainly John Howard's come out swinging against 76 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: Anthony Albanezi. 77 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for that much appreciate it. Murray Old's Australia correspondent. 78 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to 79 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: news talks be from four pm weekdays, or follow the 80 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.