1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: So the focus in the Phillips case as soon as 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: the children, what's required, what's being offered when it comes 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: to their needs and requirements. Doctor Claire acmade as the 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Chief Children's Commissioner and is with us. Good morning, good morning. 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: In your observation, are we equipped for the uniqueness of 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: this case? 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: I think that this case has been unprecedented in New Zealand. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: I am really pleased that the police have safely located 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: the children and that they have been found safe and well. 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: I think that's the key thing that we need to 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: focus on now, as well as respecting the privacy of 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: these children. I'm glad also over time we can understand 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: more about this, but right now, the privacy of these 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: children is the crucial thing from my perspective. 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that because I'm kind of over 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: the story now, not in the nasty way. I'm just 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: saying that there's there's a point in this country, and 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: we do it often where we start to become a 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: bit invasive, don't we, And that worries me. 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: I share that concern, Mike. These children need space and time, 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: and my request now to the media and to the 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: public at large is that everyone respects that there are 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: three children at the heart of this situation, and we 24 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: do that by giving them their privacy. 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: Are you confident, ot you're up to it? 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: Well. I have sought assurances from Ordering a Tamariki about 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: the support that they have in place for these three children, 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: and I've received those assurances, and I think it's now 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 2: essential that Orning a Tamariki and the police are able 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: to continue to focus on the work that they have 31 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: in front of them, and that these three children have 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: all of the support wrapped around them that they need 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: to meet their specific needs. 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: Do you worry about the suppression the court and the 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,919 Speaker 1: stuff that you and I probably know that isn't allowed 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: to be published and yet it is online and probably 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: will end up internationally because the jurisdiction doesn't count there 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: that that's an issue going forward. 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: Again, I just read for at my message Mike about 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: the importance of restecting the privacy of these children, and 41 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: that is in these coming days, in the weeks ahead, 42 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: and in the months in years ahead. We must remember 43 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: these are young children that we are talking about. 44 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: And do you go well clear pressure Doctor Claire Arkman, 45 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: who's the Chief Children's Commissioner, It does dptail. I will 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: come back to the legals around this with probably Mark 47 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: after eight o'clock this morning. There is also the story 48 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: floating around that Julie CHRISTI, well known documentary maker, has 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: been given access to some of the police operation and 50 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: is looking to make a documentary in this Tremendous pressure 51 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: on her to pull the pin on that, because that, 52 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: in my humble opinion, ends is into the world of 53 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: ghoulish voyeurism, and when all the details are out, I 54 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: think you'll probably agree with me. For more from the 55 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks it'd be 56 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.