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Speaker 1: So the apology for past abuse and state care is tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: but before that, today, the government's announced a bunch of

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Speaker 1: law changes which are designed to protect people in state

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Speaker 1: care right now. So they'll banned strip searches of children

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Speaker 1: and youth justice facilities, create harsher restrictions for people who

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Speaker 1: work with kids, and enforce better recordkeeping by government agencies. Also,

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Speaker 1: and wants to classify disabled people as vulnerable adults, meaning

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Speaker 1: they'll have access to better services now. Erica Stanford is

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Speaker 1: the lead Coordination Minister for the government's response to abuse

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Speaker 1: and state care and with us.

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Speaker 2: Hey Erica, Hey, good afternoon, Erica.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that the point of this thing is to

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Speaker 1: try to keep kids safer, but isn't there a case

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Speaker 1: for strip searching some of these kids, given some of

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Speaker 1: them will be quite serious offenders.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that the Royal Commission talked about

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Speaker 2: in some of the stories that it went through was

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Speaker 2: the indignity of the searchers and how inappropriate and rough

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Speaker 2: they were, potentially with members of the wrong sex and

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Speaker 2: all sorts of things. It was not good. It only

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Speaker 2: actually happens a very few cases, but it was something

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Speaker 2: that we wanted to move to make sure that it

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Speaker 2: wouldn't happen in the future and instead would be putting

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Speaker 2: in place individual search plans where young people knew what

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Speaker 2: was going to happen and they had more control over

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Speaker 2: how it would happen.

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Speaker 1: So, what do you do in a case where you've

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Speaker 1: got a really serious young offender and some of them

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Speaker 1: are who has been taken into a youth justice facility

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Speaker 1: and there is a concern that they have had in contraband,

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Speaker 1: like a weapon or something in a place that they

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Speaker 1: can now not be searched, And what do you do.

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Speaker 2: Well, in the future, Minister Chore and you can talk

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Speaker 2: to her more about this is looking to use full

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Speaker 2: body scanners, which would replace any reason to have to

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Speaker 2: do a search.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how long are they? How far away are they?

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Speaker 2: You have to ask her about the detail. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: the overseeing minister. I don't have all of the detail of.

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Speaker 1: Because because I mean, you run the risk at the

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Speaker 1: moment of doing something that looks good but actually puts

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Speaker 1: people at risk. Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually the bigger risk is people who are coming

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Speaker 2: in with contraband. So you'll see as part of the

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Speaker 2: changes in the legislation that we are moving to be

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Speaker 2: able to search people who are coming in, so staff

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Speaker 2: members and contractors and family members and people who are

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Speaker 2: coming in, because actually, in the last months they found

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Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty pieces of contraband, including weapons.

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Speaker 1: So how do we know how the kids aren't the

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Speaker 1: ones taking the contraband including the weapons in.

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Speaker 2: Well, we are only doing a handful at the moment

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Speaker 2: of those searches anyway, But just that alone is according

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Speaker 2: to the well, well we're looking at, you know, three

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty pieces of contraband in the last six

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Speaker 2: months with the people who are coming in, and that's

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Speaker 2: going to make the biggest difference.

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Speaker 1: Right, did your office? Was your office one of the

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Speaker 1: officers that complained about that newsroom. Do you know who's

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Speaker 1: banned today his behavior?

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Speaker 2: No? I haven't made any complaints about mister smell.

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Speaker 1: Do you know anything about his behavior? What is it

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Speaker 1: that's got everybody so worked up?

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Speaker 2: Look, you're going to have to ask a Prime minister

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Speaker 2: about that. I just know that there was some behavior

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Speaker 2: that has happened on a number of occasions that has

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Speaker 2: been brought up with newsream that they haven't acknowledged or

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Speaker 2: done anything about. And that was just raised with a speaker.

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Speaker 1: So this is like, is it like physical threats? Is

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Speaker 1: it stuff outside of the press conference?

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Speaker 2: What is it? Look, it's not something that I've ever

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Speaker 2: been involved in or been around it. I just know

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Speaker 2: that there was some inappropriate behavior.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hey, by the way, just kind of unrelated to this.

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Speaker 1: But because you're the immigration minister, I see Candice Owens,

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Speaker 1: who's that controversial speaker, has had her gig postponed. Do

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Speaker 1: you know where where where you guys are at with

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Speaker 1: her visa?

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Speaker 2: I do know that her gig has been moved I

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Speaker 2: think to early next year. That means that the immense

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Speaker 2: pressure and Immigration New Zealand to look at it in

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Speaker 2: a speedy way is now off and they will just

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Speaker 2: process it and look, it is a matter for them.

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Speaker 2: They've got rules and processes that they worked her, and

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Speaker 2: it would be an appropriate for me to get involve.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but was it because of But was it because

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Speaker 1: of visa processing at our end? Not nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with Australia. But it was a New Zealand visa problem

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Speaker 1: that caused this to happen.

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Speaker 2: The caused her to shift her I have not been

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Speaker 2: told that the reason that she's moved her her Greg

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Speaker 2: has got anything to do with the beta processing time too.

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Speaker 1: All right, Erica, thank you. As always, it's Erica Stanford

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Speaker 1: Minister obviously read the State abuse care and also immigration.

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