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Speaker 1: Was trighty we go Mat Murray Olds is back from holiday?

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Speaker 1: How are you, mister Hosking?

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Speaker 2: Very good morning mate, pretty well, thank you, just back

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Speaker 2: from the UK inspecting stuff for you. I was looking

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Speaker 2: at that new but Lamborghini you wanted me to look

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Speaker 2: at in that lovely pastoral blue, and I put the

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Speaker 2: order in for you.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I did have a word to President Macrome when I

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Speaker 2: was in France about as new prime minister. I thought

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Speaker 2: you'd approve of that fair as much so as right

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Speaker 2: wing as you can go. Looks like a patrician, looks

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Speaker 2: like you. You'll be wearing a toga, So I think

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Speaker 2: I've done a bit of scouting on your behalf.

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Speaker 1: Ah, you've come back in a fine fettal and as

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Speaker 1: a trip out of ten ten it was the time

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Speaker 1: of your life, one you'd never go again. What was it?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's a ten gen. I was leading a group

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Speaker 2: of listeners to my weekend radio show around the UK

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Speaker 2: and a cruise. We went over to the Western Front,

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Speaker 2: and then when they came home, we stayed on in

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Speaker 2: France and had a beautiful time in Paris.

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Speaker 1: Can you say you go around the UK and I

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Speaker 1: don't envisage people sailing around the UK because a vast amount.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit really, a sort of a bit, you know.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of ports. You know. We flew to London,

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Speaker 2: down to Southampton, left Southampton, around to Cork, you know, holyhead,

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Speaker 2: you get up to well where else did we stop? At? Belfast?

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Speaker 2: The Museum to the Titanic, Oceanic and Britannic, and Belfast

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Speaker 2: is next level, my goodness, if you have any interest

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Speaker 2: at all in history about the Titanic, which is endlessly fascinating.

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Speaker 2: That museum is a masterpiece. It's magnificent. Around the rest

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Speaker 2: of the UK, you know, down Scotland, across the LaHave

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Speaker 2: in France which and went to Money's Garden in Viiviny

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Speaker 2: which was just beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Oh fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I've got some cuttings.

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Speaker 1: Is it because your commentary has been missing in the

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Speaker 1: Australian landscape that Dutton surged in the polls?

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Speaker 2: I think so. I think so because he has He's

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Speaker 2: making every post winner. And as Peter Dutton's rising, I

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Speaker 2: know you're a fan of Dutton, I'm not. But as

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Speaker 2: Dutton's rising, the wheels are falling off Albany bit and

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Speaker 2: last Polo, because I did have one of your nerdy holidays.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was on the net all the time

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Speaker 2: when I'm away, looking at stories and it's clear, Look,

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Speaker 2: alban Easy's losing a lot of paint as we get

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Speaker 2: ever closer to an election, and you know, are we

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Speaker 2: going to have an early election? It's all going to

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Speaker 2: depend on the Reserve Bank. Well, they're having a fight

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Speaker 2: with the Reserve Bank. They don't need it. Just looks

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Speaker 2: at the government's trying to bully the woman who's in

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Speaker 2: charge of the Reserve Bank, and that's not going to

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Speaker 2: go over very well.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. Firms backed by a Sydnant That's what I'm reading

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Speaker 1: while you're away. Firms backed by a Sydney underworlded Link

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Speaker 1: businessman involved in buying illegal guns in the former boss

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Speaker 1: of Victoria's Common chero Biki Gang secured critical backing from

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Speaker 1: the CFMEU, facilitating their access to major construction projects, including

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Speaker 1: taxpayer funded sites. Just when I couldn't think this whole

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Speaker 1: union thing gets any worse, it does, of course it does.

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Speaker 2: And this has been going on for a long long time,

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Speaker 2: not just under Lay, it's been going on forever. But

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Speaker 2: the governments have either been complacent, reluctant to gutless, and

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Speaker 2: this has been a significant problem, adding costs to you know,

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Speaker 2: the people who are building the the construction sites, or

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Speaker 2: the governments who are actually funding a lot of these

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Speaker 2: projects because it's government money as well. And what you've

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Speaker 2: got is a union, say the CFMU, the construction arm

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Speaker 2: of the CVFM, that's now an administration. Of course they're

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Speaker 2: threatening to go to the High Court to challenge the

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Speaker 2: government's right to put them in administration. But you've got

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Speaker 2: endless lists of crooks. You've got blokes with more tattoos

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Speaker 2: than you can I mean, look, these blokes look responsored

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Speaker 2: by Walt Disney. They turned up in a building, so

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Speaker 2: they've never held a hammer.

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Speaker 1: They would never.

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Speaker 2: Bloody clue about how to use you know, a drop sore.

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Speaker 2: But they stand around with more muscles you can imagine,

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Speaker 2: you know, getting paid. And there's clear evidence of I mean,

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Speaker 2: how about this for Hutspah. There's a dad and his

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Speaker 2: son here in Sea, the New South Wales of the

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Speaker 2: Construction of the Construction Union. Right. Dad and Dave were

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Speaker 2: also dismissed when the union was put into administration. The

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Speaker 2: committee running the union has authorized three and a half

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Speaker 2: million dollars of union members' funds just to be siphoned

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Speaker 2: off and parked in a trust with a local lawyer

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Speaker 2: to look after the legal fees of the father and

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Speaker 2: son are running a union. The son, I might add,

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Speaker 2: has never been near a building site. He is the

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Speaker 2: assistant secretary of the construction union here in New South Wales.

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Speaker 2: The old man's a builder. He's been on the union

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Speaker 2: books forever. But the sons come along as well. The

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Speaker 2: two of them have both gone, and now the union

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Speaker 2: members are about to pay the union the legal fees

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Speaker 2: of these two. You can't make it up.

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, it's unreal funny enough. We had the Ministry

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Speaker 1: of Education on the program this morning and we've got

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Speaker 1: teaching problems in our system as well, and we're bringing

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Speaker 1: in teachers who've retired and bring them back into the program.

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Speaker 1: And I note that New South Wales doing exactly. It

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Speaker 1: seems to be the problem here, Murray is no one

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Speaker 1: wants to be a teacher. And is that the same

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming in New South Wales.

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Speaker 2: Look but when he teachers have paid rubbish, there's no

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Speaker 2: respect anymore. I mean, you know, we I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but I'm a little bit older than you, or more

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Speaker 2: mature than you. When when when when we were young,

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Speaker 2: you had respect for the classroom teacher, didn't you. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was just a thing you did. You looked up

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Speaker 2: to them. Moms and dads used to go along, and

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Speaker 2: you know, the parent teacher was a big deal. These days,

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Speaker 2: no one gives a rats, no one cares less. And

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Speaker 2: that's such a and And teachers, particularly primary teachers, are

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Speaker 2: just like, I don't know, classroom cannon fodder. And they

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Speaker 2: are bringing in people who have retired and they're offering

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Speaker 2: them little short term contracts. And the other the other

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Speaker 2: thing that I despair about is that you've got teachers

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Speaker 2: who are completely unqualified for one area of of of teaching.

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Speaker 2: You know that they may have been maths teachers, they

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Speaker 2: may have been teaching history. They've been called back in

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Speaker 2: to try and teach maths and science for goodness sake,

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Speaker 2: because no one wants to be a teacher. It's just

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Speaker 2: regarded so poorly by society. Unlike Finland, which has been

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Speaker 2: toping the OECD averages for teaching outcomes for education outcomes

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Speaker 2: for kids for years and years and years, every teacher

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Speaker 2: in Finland has to have a master's and they are

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Speaker 2: regarded the same sort of light as doctors.

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Speaker 1: And interestingly, civics has been mandated or will be in

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Speaker 1: the curriculum rejig in New South Wales, so they're mandating civics.

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Speaker 1: So you got to learn about how the constitution works

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Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: That a bad thing either.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad thing either, Murray. I

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Speaker 1: think you and I sat down with a couple of beers,

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Speaker 1: we could probably put the world to rights in fairly

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Speaker 1: short because notice Murray, but we're brilliant together.

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Speaker 2: Feeding into all of this, of course, is the endless

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Speaker 2: right wing whining about how you know the left is

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Speaker 2: dumbing down the classroom and you know, no one's teaching

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Speaker 2: white Australian history. It's all about Aboriginal Australian history and

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Speaker 2: the two should be taught simultaneously. And I think I

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Speaker 2: agree with that as well.

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Speaker 1: Mike. Here's the text for you. It took my kids

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Speaker 1: to the Titanic Museum in Belfast couple of months ago.

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Speaker 1: Murray's right, it's worth the trip to the UK just

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Speaker 1: for that.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's magnificent, it is. It is so beautifully done.

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Speaker 2: There's a woman, missus Rice, I forget her Christian name.

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Speaker 2: She her husband had died. She went back to the

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Speaker 2: UK decided no, no, no, she wanted to go back to

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Speaker 2: North America. Her five children and herself. The only found

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Speaker 2: her body that the little boys were never found. She's

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Speaker 2: buried in Halifax. It was beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, mate, catch up Wednesday. Always Australia for us

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