1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: We have this morning two major changes potentially to name 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: suppression laws. The first would waive the right to permanent 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: name suppression for convicted adult defenders. Second would ensure all 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: survivors of sexual crimes are granted automatic suppression. Now, the 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Justice Minicin's in charge of this and Paul Goldsmith's with us. 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning mate. Are there gaps in the law? 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: Well, look, the primary issue is that you have people 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: who are convicted of sexual crimes rape and have been 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: convicted and they can still get permanent name suppression. And 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: that's a massive issue, particularly for the victims. They can't 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: really talk about what happened to them, they can't warn others. 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: And so we look, you only get permanent name suppression 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: if you're a convicted sex offender, if the victim agrees, 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: and if the victim doesn't agree, we'll tough luck. You're 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: not going to get it, and you should own up 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: for your crimes. 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: When we talk about the views of the victim taken 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: into account, how real versus how sympathetic is that? 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: Well, that's the current law that the that the views 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: of the victim are taken into account, and you know, frankly, 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: sometimes it doesn't get very far, and the person who 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: has been convicted is guilty of these sexual crimes, remains, 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 2: continues to have their name suppressed forever, and they have huge, 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: long court battles over it. It retraumatizes the victims in that process, 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: and you know, I just a fundamentally don't agree with 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: that because you can't how do you warn other victims? 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: And our focus in government, of course, is to reduce 28 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: the number of victims of violent and sexual offending. And 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: the best place to start, of course, is to deal 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: with the people who are doing it most often, such 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: as gang members and all those sorts of things. But 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: also when you've been a convicted sex offender, well there's 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: a real risk that you continue and do that elsewhere. 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: And so they've got they've got to own up to 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: their crimes so that the community knows who they're dealing with. 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: You've got the numbers, obviously, So this is a fight 37 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: to complete. What's the timeline on it. 38 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: Well, there's a current piece of legislation which had been 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: going through the House, and I'm making an amendment to that. 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: We'll introduce that. We'll send it off to a slick 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: muddy for a short period and then pass it pretty quickly. 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. Paul Goldsmith, the Justice Minister 43 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: With us for more from the My Asking Breakfast Listen 44 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: live to News Talks at B from six am weekdays, 45 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio