1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Update on Auckland's infamous curl. The Central rail Link new 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: forecast for patronage is nineteen thousand. People are how is that? Good? 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: Don't know? Was twenty seven thousand? So what happened to 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: all the extra people? Stacy Vanderputten is the Public Transport 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Director at AT and it's with us, Stacy. 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning. 7 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: What happened to all the other people? 8 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: Well, I think we're sort of confusing a couple of 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: things here. There's what i'd call design capacity, and then 10 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: there is in terms of what is looking at in 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: the forward program for timetabling as well as patronage is 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: mixed in with that too. I can see all these 13 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: things have kind of merged, and I understand it looks murky, 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: but I mean fundamentally, what we're doing going into this 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: commencement of City rail Link is increasing capacity, and that's capacity, 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: not patronage by sixty percent of what it is today. 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: Understand that terribly more. 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: I was told by your comms guys, twenty seven thousand 19 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: was never achievable and you needed six trains at once 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: and you don't even have six trains. Is that true? 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: Well, yes, and not. So there's a couple of things 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: to unpack with that. So twenty seven thousand passengers per 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: hour is what the forward plan looks like, but there's 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: obviously a progress to get there based on demand in 25 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: further investment. That's always been the case. The actual business 26 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: case for City rail Link was fifteen trains per hour. 27 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: We're actually commencing with sixteen trains per hour. So there's 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: different what i'll call progress in order to get to 29 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: that twenty seven thousand per hour, but there's a planned 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: approach to doing it. Starting with that would be economically 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: irresponsible because you know, you've got to drive that demand. 32 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: It's already a significant increase. 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: Very fair point at nineteen thousand. We should point out 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: even at nineteen thousand, it's a fifty percent increase in patronage. 35 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: That's a push, isn't it. I mean, it may be 36 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: that you never you never see a full train. In 37 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: other words, it doesn't work. 38 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: No, I highly doubt that. I think you know, this 39 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: is a huge game changer for Auckland. I mean, the 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: network has had considerable disruption over a prolong time, and 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: it is going to take a little effort in order 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: to get people to have the confidence in the train 43 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: network again. So that will take time, but it will happen. 44 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of enthusiasm. 45 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: For it among who. 46 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: Among Auckland is Yeah, they've been anticipating this for a 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: really long time. 48 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: Have you done a survey? 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is great for Auckland. You've got 50 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: to look at what it does from an economical perspective. 51 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: You know, it helps people move around and that's what 52 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: we need to be doing in order to be able 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: to make our roads more free for the people that 54 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: actually need to use them. While having these options is important. 55 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: Sure, what did the surveys say? 56 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: The survey stays that everybody wants a reliable, stable train network. 57 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: That's something that's been compromised in recent years. 58 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate your time, Stacy, have a good weekend, Stacy vander Puttin. 59 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: Right. 60 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 61 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 62 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.