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Speaker 1: And so we finally got the official account of why

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Speaker 1: the Artitet a ferry ran onto that beach near Picton

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Speaker 1: in June. Turns out it is basically what we had

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Speaker 1: already heard. The autopilot took the vessel off in the

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Speaker 1: wrong direction, and nobody on board knew how to disable

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Speaker 1: the autopilot.

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Speaker 2: What we have established is that they did not know

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Speaker 2: that they had to hold the button down, nor were

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Speaker 2: they aware that they did not know.

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Speaker 1: Duncan roy is the inter Island is executive general manager.

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Speaker 2: Hey Duncan, Hia, they good to be back.

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Speaker 1: Duncan listen. Everything goes wrong when the refound master, who's

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Speaker 1: the chap is learning the boat again? Press is the

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Speaker 1: autopilot more than thirty seconds too late? Why did that happen?

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Speaker 2: So you'll notice today that take put out a list

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Speaker 2: of statements of facts. One of the things they didn't

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Speaker 2: do was make comment on why that button was pushed,

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Speaker 2: because they have an ongoing investigation and I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to comment on that either. What I can say is

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Speaker 2: that the ship did move to starboard an era, and

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Speaker 2: after that they went through the process of regaining control

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Speaker 2: and they couldn't that immediately, and then they went through

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Speaker 2: another series of their processes to slow the ship down

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Speaker 2: and attempt to stop it before it and ground slowly.

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Speaker 1: The chap who was actually in charge the night maaster,

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Speaker 1: was he properly supervising the refam master when he presses

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Speaker 1: the button too late?

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Speaker 2: Totally. The nightmaster is in control of the bridge and

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Speaker 2: he had the appropriate people on the bridge with him.

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Speaker 2: He was refaming another master. We do that so they

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Speaker 2: can maintain currency as they move around the ships. This

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Speaker 2: is accepted practice and was normal.

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Speaker 1: Preg normal because it just sounds like what's probably happened

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Speaker 1: to he is they're having a little chat about how

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Speaker 1: the boat works. May chat for thirty seconds too long

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Speaker 1: as the button gets pressed too late. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, when the button was pushed and the ship moved

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Speaker 2: to starboard, you know, large ships take time to change course.

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Speaker 2: It was an unexpected turn. It's at night, so that's

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Speaker 2: an understandable timeline to react to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the button was pressed too late.

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Speaker 2: The button was pressed in the error.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it wasn't supposed to be pressed at all.

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Speaker 2: No, the button was pressed and the ship changed direction

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Speaker 2: to start it.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't they know that they had to press the

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Speaker 1: disabled button for five seconds at least to disable the autopilot.

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Speaker 2: That is the key question that we're looking at now

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Speaker 2: that we've got the Oaritary back into service. He's done

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Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty four sailings, including three today, so

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Speaker 2: frustrating this. We are lucky.

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Speaker 1: Don't tell me you don't know what the answer to

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Speaker 1: that question is.

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Speaker 2: So they didn't know on the bridge, we didn't know

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Speaker 2: an into island. So we're working with the people that

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Speaker 2: provided us the service right now as we speak to

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Speaker 2: work out why we didn't know. Well, we have done

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Speaker 2: those we solved the problem immediately, so now we're working

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Speaker 2: on going forward and fixing this so it doesn't happen again. Change.

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Speaker 1: How do you, honestly, I mean, it's so basic, right,

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Speaker 1: It's a basic question of going to them and being like,

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Speaker 1: why didn't you know? Did we brief you? Like that's

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Speaker 1: a simple question. How in five months have you not

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Speaker 1: asked that question?

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Speaker 2: So I think I'll just repeat what I said here

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Speaker 2: that they didn't know, we didn't know, So.

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Speaker 1: Now I get that can tell why you didn't know.

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Speaker 2: So as take said today that they didn't know, they

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Speaker 2: didn't know. So we've been we've received a new piece

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Speaker 2: of equipment, and we're working with the provider of the

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Speaker 2: equipment to figure out why. Oh hold on, we run informed.

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Speaker 1: Are you telling me they didn't know they had to

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Speaker 1: press it for five seconds? But neither did anybody in

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Speaker 1: Into Islander.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. We got a new piece of

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Speaker 2: equipment and there was a very specific set of circumstances

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Speaker 2: that meant it required a five second over Okay, for

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Speaker 2: the eighty three crossings prior to this, Yeah, the one

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Speaker 2: press button worked the day they arrived and picked in

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Speaker 2: that day, they pressed the button once to take control.

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Speaker 2: It was only when in this very particular set of

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Speaker 2: circumstances where the rudder was out of sync with the

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Speaker 2: steering wheel, that you had to do a five second overall.

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Speaker 1: And are you telling me there didn't know? And whoever

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Speaker 1: provided this equipment to inter Islander told no one Into

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Speaker 1: Islander that in the specific set of circumstances you have

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Speaker 1: to press the button for five seconds. Like literally nobody knew.

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Speaker 2: We are working with that provider right now.

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Speaker 1: But are you telling me nobody takes as.

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Speaker 2: Take said today a number of times is a very

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Speaker 2: complex set of donead investigations.

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Speaker 1: That nobody in into Island and knew you had to

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Speaker 1: press it for five seconds.

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Speaker 2: Heather, if we'd known that you had to do it,

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Speaker 2: we would have done it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you might have just been a communication problem,

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Speaker 1: but I get it. Did somebody go get a coffee?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can put that to bed right now. The

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Speaker 2: right number of people are on the bridge doing their

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Speaker 2: job professionally. No one left the bridge to get coffee.

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Speaker 1: Duncan, thank you very much for answering the questions. Really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Mate. There's Duncan Roy Into Islander, executive general manager.

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