1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Multiple major religious texts will be shredded at the National Library. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: A number of books which include the Quran, the Bible 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: and the Turrah will be destroyed and then recycled and 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: this is to save one million dollars a year in 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: storage costs. Laura Marshall is the executive director of the 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Library and Information Association of New Zealand and joints it 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: now Good morning to you. 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: Laura, Good morning. 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: There's a few religious people around the place are a 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: bit freaked out by this. 11 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: It's standard religious policy at standard religious policy. Sorry, it's 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: through early in the morning. It's standard collection policy. There'll 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: be a policy on what's removed from collections. I don't 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: know the policy of this particular place, but yeah, people 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: just need to look into what is the collection policy, 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: and it's a fairly standard collection management. All of these 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: books are available at your local library and if people 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: do want to read them, they can become members of 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: their local library and they are available to read. 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: So libraries always do culls because there's always used books 21 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: and they end up full. So how do libraries decide 22 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: which books to stay in which to go. 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: It's very specific to the particular institute or the particular library. 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: I used to be the library director of ODDA and 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: we had a collection management policy. If it was one 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: of those best sellers, when people stopped lending it, we 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: used to call the box and get rid of them. 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 2: If we kept every book that was published, we'd need 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: a fifty story building, which is obviously not possible at all. However, 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: in our heritage collection, same as the National Library, we 31 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: kept books of significance. We keep multi collections, we keep 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: local history collections. So it comes down to what is 33 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: significant for that community, for that institute, and what's its 34 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: mandate by usually as governing body, on what it should collect. 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: Spreading seems a little bit violent, doesn't it. I mean 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: that book has gone. Is that standard? Why don't we 37 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: have a very big garret sale? 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: It is standard because you get to the point where 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: nobody wants the books. I used to be a second 40 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: hand bookseller for fifteen years and I I have tredded 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: so many books. It gets to a point where nobody 42 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: wants to read it. It's times up and we need 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: room for new books. Like I said, you need a 44 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: fifty story building to put these to put these books in. 45 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: So many times people would bring me the collections of 46 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: their grandmar and say, oh, I don't want to throw 47 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: these out, so I'm going to give these to you, 48 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: and I'll be like, no, you have to throw them out. 49 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: Why should I do it? It comes a point where 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: books are not going to be read, and this is 51 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 2: just great collection policy. All of these books are available 52 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: somewhere else as well. 53 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: And some of these books haven't been checked out in 54 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: twenty or thirty years. Should they have even been bought 55 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: in the first place. 56 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: Yes, you do have to test the market, and you 57 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: must remember some of these books are very old. So yeah, 58 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: testing the market is part of good collection policy, and 59 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: they're making a sound decision. As another I believe with 60 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: this particular collection, at least fifty thousand of the books 61 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: were offered to other libraries and were taken up. So 62 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: some of these have gone to other library collections. I 63 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: believe another fifty thousand weeks charity. And I can tell you, 64 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: as an experienced bookseller who used to make money out 65 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: of books, a lot of these books their time is up, unfortunately, 66 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: and it's sad, but this is what we do to 67 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: bring in new books. I think it is something like 68 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: a million to two million books. Are published every year. 69 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: Got to have room for these new collections. But be 70 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: sured libraries do keep those heritage books, those out of print, 71 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: those rare books, those books that are really special to 72 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: a particular community. This is their skill and this is 73 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: what they're great. 74 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: He yes, stuff, Laura, I thank you so very very much. 75 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't need to take the Bible out from the 76 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: library because I've got my family Bible, which came out 77 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: on a boat and arrived in New Zealand in eighteen 78 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: forty three. 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