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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names. Talk to

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Speaker 1: Mike Breakfast with our Veda retirement, communities, life, your way

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Speaker 2: The end of the game.

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Speaker 3: Frame seven side wins goals. They beat Canada nineteen twelve.

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Speaker 3: Two good in Tokyo, perfect in Paris. New Zealand win

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Speaker 3: gold the first of these Olympic Games. Scenes of triumph,

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Speaker 3: edulation New Zealands. They embrace for at least two of them.

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Speaker 3: Woodman Mackcliffin King. It is the Inns and modern theme.

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Speaker 3: Tyler King. Who that's who you're yelling and cheering and

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Speaker 3: elated if ial acted the Stevens Flyers to win a

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Speaker 2: Here we go, morning and welcome today. We've got democracy

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Speaker 2: back in the mari Wards. We're going to talk to

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Speaker 2: the head of triathle on New Zealand. That's a complete

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Speaker 2: shambles in New Zealand bailing on their climate targets. Mark

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Speaker 2: and Jenny will do politics Wednesday after eight, of course.

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Speaker 2: Mitch mccannon the States and Steve Price for Us in Australia,

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Speaker 2: pasking so in eight minutes past six, So welcome also

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Speaker 2: to tax cut Day. Been a while since we've been

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Speaker 2: able to say that. And the tax cuts arrived to

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Speaker 2: an uncertain sort of debate as to what exactly they

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Speaker 2: do I mean, do they add to inflation? Do they

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Speaker 2: change lives to the extent that they are material to

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Speaker 2: most people? Do they get lost a bit in what

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Speaker 2: has been a tsunami of changing upheavle since the new

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Speaker 2: government arrived. Nicola will is very bullish about it all

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Speaker 2: and tells question Time most days that well over half

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Speaker 2: a million people have gone to the tax calculated to

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Speaker 2: work out what the numbers mean to them. The bit

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Speaker 2: for me that counts today, though, is the message. If

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Speaker 2: we learned anything over the past few years, it's the

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Speaker 2: simple truth that there is no amount of money a

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Speaker 2: government can spend to quell demand. You can take gargantuan

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Speaker 2: amounts of cash, whether in real time terms, will borrow

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Speaker 2: to print it, and throw them all over the place,

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Speaker 2: and still you will find more hands with more needs.

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Speaker 2: It is a dangerous and slippery slope that we went down,

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Speaker 2: and we're still here this morning paying the price for

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Speaker 2: it all. What government should do is take as little

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Speaker 2: as possible from you and me, and whatever they do

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Speaker 2: get spend wisely and frugally. We are not a bank,

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Speaker 2: and yet we have been treated as such. The debate

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Speaker 2: over the so called wealthy not needing money is pointless.

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Speaker 2: The debate over those who are in need still being

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Speaker 2: idea that one government's console hall problems and to a

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Speaker 2: finite amount of money. Does that Neither are true. What

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Speaker 2: is true is workers need to keep as much of

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Speaker 2: their income as possible, and that is a rule that

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Speaker 2: is too often forgotten and broken. The top rate in

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Speaker 2: this country is thirty nine cents in the dollar add

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Speaker 2: fifteen for GST. You're paying well in excess of half

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Speaker 2: of every single dollar you earn to the government. And

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Speaker 2: that's before you get to the tax on the tax

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Speaker 2: and the road users and the acc and all the

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Speaker 2: other money grabs. So tax cut day counts because it's

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Speaker 2: a small win for those of us who graft in

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Speaker 2: paid this country's bills. The knit contributors is opposed to

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Speaker 2: the knit ditters, and wins a few these days. So

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Speaker 2: therefore wins are important.

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Speaker 4: News of the world.

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Speaker 2: In ninety seconds, you're still reading in Southport after yesterday's

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Speaker 2: detecht to Pilham arrived to show respects.

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Speaker 5: As Prime Minister on behalf of the country. We are

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Speaker 5: grateful for what they did. They of course say that

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Speaker 5: they will respond their professionals to anything, but there's no

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Speaker 5: pretending that what they had to respond to yesterday was ordinary.

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Speaker 5: It was very, very difficult of them.

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Speaker 2: We have a witness.

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Speaker 6: There's just this guy there at the top of the stairs,

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Speaker 6: realize that I was going to be in there, but

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Speaker 6: we've looked, We've looked at each other. Then he's scurried

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Speaker 7: Always can feeld help.

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Speaker 8: When it happens so locally to you on the streets,

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Speaker 7: Then you may know you want to do something.

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Speaker 9: And I don't know what else you can do at

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Speaker 9: the moment other than just try and pay your respects

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Speaker 9: in some way.

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Speaker 2: And then a couple of things from the sites that well,

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Speaker 2: they're still asking questions about Butler and the shooting cruise

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Speaker 2: VID the Secret Service.

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Speaker 10: Is that right that repeatedly the Trump detail asked for

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Speaker 10: more resources and repeatedly Secret Service leadership turned that down.

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Speaker 2: That is not accurate.

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Speaker 7: Senator assets are requested. There's a process that has made.

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Speaker 2: Then the Donald has gone into defense might of aage

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Speaker 2: id in cats.

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Speaker 11: I mean for him, he likes family.

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Speaker 12: I think a lot of people like family, and sometimes

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Speaker 12: it doesn't work out, and you know why, you don't

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Speaker 12: meet the right person, or you don't meet any person.

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Speaker 12: But you're just as good in many cases, a lot

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Speaker 12: better than a person that's in a family situation.

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Speaker 2: He's a philosopher ist. Hegan Kamal has been on Zoom Calls,

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Speaker 2: Rising Money, one Call, four million.

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Speaker 13: Donald Trump is a thirty four time convicted felon, an

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Speaker 13: adjudicated rapist, and a congenital liar.

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Speaker 4: He's a fraud and JD Vance is his mini me.

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Speaker 2: Finally, Cambridge Dictionary's added some gin z slang to the

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Speaker 2: land wuage This morning, what have we got, We've got

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Speaker 2: the yck, We've got that eck when you get a

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Speaker 2: bit disgusted by someone that you're dating and doing something

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Speaker 2: you don't approve of. Examples in the dicty include being

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Speaker 2: root to wait staff and eating noisily. Second they've added

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Speaker 2: is boop A boop, a gentle tap on someone's nose,

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Speaker 2: cambroducing an example of a golden retrie. They're doing it

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Speaker 2: a boop. Third, we've got Chip's kiss, which is when

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Speaker 2: you think something, usually food, is perfect. It's the chef's kiss.

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Speaker 2: News of the World with ninety by the way, just

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Speaker 2: breaking at about twenty to six this morning, the Israelis

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Speaker 2: have gone into well not literally gone, and they've thrown

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Speaker 2: a bomb or two into Bayroot, Southern bay Roots, so

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Speaker 2: that response has begun, so we'll keep an eye on

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Speaker 2: that throughout the morning. Twelve past six, the my Costing

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Eero Zone numbers out overnight zero point three percent

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Speaker 2: growth on the second quarter. They thought zero point two,

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Speaker 2: so they're doing okay. We'll take that. Fifteen pars six

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Speaker 11: Good morning, very good, Bonnie, mind you.

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Speaker 2: Wears update as what's going on?

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Speaker 14: Oh, start off at the start, Michael, What is going

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Speaker 14: to be quite a pivotal two to three days, not

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Speaker 11: This week we have got a whole raft of.

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Speaker 14: Economic announcements of company announcements of central bank announcements that

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Speaker 11: To move market.

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Speaker 14: Now, they're probably going to hold that Fed funds rates steady,

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Speaker 11: Then we've got economic data that's important between now and

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Speaker 14: A key piece of data outfright of not US non

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Speaker 2: Which stuff. Then we come to the hard landing from

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Speaker 2: me and you use a little bit of a reality check.

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Speaker 14: ends in saying Mike, is that it can't manage the

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Speaker 14: So there's all outside of their control and remained challenging. Now,

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Speaker 14: challenging is the highlighted word of the year in business commentary.

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Speaker 14: We're seeing it everywhere. But this follows on from a

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Speaker 14: recent decision in Australia by Forteskew basically pulling back from

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Speaker 14: this transition to green technology, to low carbon emissions, to

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Speaker 11: It's complicated and it's hard.

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Speaker 14: And the other thing though, this transition if they want

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Speaker 14: to make those targets, and you probably don't want to

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Speaker 14: hear this, it may need further regulatory support and potentially

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Speaker 14: further government investment to actually hit those targets. Which, yeah,

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Speaker 15: we hear you, we see you. This one's for you, guys. Huh,

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Speaker 15: we're bringing that gold medal back to Altia Or.

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Speaker 2: Let's go very articulate. We like your style will cover

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Speaker 2: Good feedback this morning so far, Mike, I think the

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Speaker 2: text cuts are great. It's a shame that mine will

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Speaker 2: All sorts of interesting stories to come out of the

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Speaker 16: So here's Jess Fox. She's fluent in canoe slalom chasing

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Speaker 16: this missing piece in the trophy. Cabinet support is strong

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Speaker 16: as his, Yess, She's on her way.

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Speaker 17: Come on, Jess, let's go fine on Gate on her

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Speaker 3: The time is going to be fast.

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Speaker 17: Have a look at that ninety six alights thumbs up

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Speaker 2: By the way. The other international story this morning, you

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Speaker 2: proves that he has actually won the election. Meantime, half

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show You Can Trust, the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 2: TOGS had been about to hand out the gold medal,

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Speaker 2: so we'll have a little bit of something for that

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Speaker 2: Three key forecasts won the national house prices they think

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you. Hey, good morning, Mike. It's

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Speaker 18: Well, yes, I think so. We're removing eleven pages of

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Speaker 2: Are you still protecting those who were supposed to be

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Speaker 18: Oh yeah, that's always been the case. I've always been

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Speaker 18: And I've also looked to strengthen up the dispute mechanisms.

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Speaker 2: Are the banks on board because the bank screened and

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Speaker 18: And also during the process, I've involved a lot of

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Speaker 18: So you mentioned a few you can't breaks down overnight

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Speaker 18: You couldn't go to and you wanted to get that

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Speaker 2: Finance exactly. Glad you fixed it. Hopefully it works. Andrew,

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Speaker 2: appreciate your time. Andrew Badley, the Commerce and Consume Affairs Minister,

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Speaker 2: what a gold medal ceremony for New Zealand sounds like.

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Speaker 3: He's hell and stands on the Olympic Daisies Champions Porscha

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Speaker 19: She can't.

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Speaker 1: It's a national correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace

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Speaker 2: So much mccamn morning to your mate.

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Speaker 20: Morning Mike, How I am?

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Speaker 2: You're still in New Zealander? You got a green cart

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Speaker 21: And finally I tell you what yesterday the American colleagues

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Speaker 2: How big of do you'll just off the top of

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, Secret Service, we heard a little bit from

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Speaker 2: the back and forth that they're back. Have you read

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Speaker 2: the grassy stuff that got released yesterday? I mean, what

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Speaker 2: a bunch of incompetent buffoons.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, and look, the Secret Service acting director has been

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Speaker 21: back in front of the Senate today. You'll remember that

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Speaker 21: meeting they had last week with the director that saw

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Speaker 21: her resign. There was little information, if any offer there.

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Speaker 21: Today we've seen a little more information shouldn't emerge and

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Speaker 21: this has been a fiery hearing this morning. Donald row Junior,

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Speaker 21: he's the acting head of the Secret Service. He told

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Speaker 21: lawmakers he's been back to the roof where this shooting happened,

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Speaker 21: and he said what I saw made me ashamed. And

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Speaker 21: when it comes to the question where were those Secret

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Speaker 21: Service snipers, why weren't they on that roof? He's really

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Speaker 21: passed the buck to local law enforcement. He said, they

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Speaker 21: made an assumption and that we assume that the state

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Speaker 21: and locals had it sorted, which obviously they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Make no exactly. Then we come to kalm La and

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Speaker 2: her phone calls how much I don't want to be

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Speaker 2: seen as a conspiracy theorist here. How much of this

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Speaker 2: money is genuinely new versus money that was just blocked

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Speaker 2: up until Biden got out of the way and then

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Speaker 2: suddenly they started giving it again.

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Speaker 21: Well, the Democrats say sixty percent of this money is

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Speaker 21: new money from first time donors, people that haven't donated

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Speaker 21: before that have been re energized by this Kamala Harris campaign.

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Speaker 21: Yesterday they came out and said that she's now raised

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Speaker 21: two hundred million dollars in the first week of her candidacy.

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Speaker 21: And we've seen these different groups gather on zoom. So

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Speaker 21: there's been black women for Karma, there's been black men,

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Speaker 21: South Asian Americans have all come together. And last night

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Speaker 21: there was a bit of unusual fundraiser are sixty thousand

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Speaker 21: people logged into a Zoom called white Dudes for Harris

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Speaker 21: and they raised these White Dudes Mike raised four million

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Speaker 21: dollars for her, and they believe it's a moment to

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Speaker 21: prove that Donald Trump doesn't own the votes of white men.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very big it's a large amount of money.

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Speaker 2: Roy Cooper, by the way, pulled out in the VP

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Speaker 2: race yesterday. When are we expecting that announcement and does

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Speaker 2: she still have a quality feel to choose from well

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Speaker 2: in the coming days.

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Speaker 21: We're expecting it because it's been reported now she's going

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Speaker 21: to go on a background state tour next week with

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Speaker 21: her VP nominee, so we can expect possibly the next day,

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Speaker 21: the next two days. The front runners at this stage

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Speaker 21: Mark Kelly Arizona, Josh Shapiro Pennsylvanya. He's getting a lot

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Speaker 21: of credit. These are both sort of reasonably well known people,

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Speaker 21: especially Shapiro in Pennsylvania. This is a state that Democrats

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Speaker 21: really need to win, and they feel that if they

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Speaker 21: pick Shapiro he could be the one to take them

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Speaker 21: over in that state.

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Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, make go well, catch up soon,

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Speaker 2: Match McCann out of the states bru's this morning, And

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Speaker 2: in doing my reading as I have been, every one

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Speaker 2: of the vps is a very good fundraiser. So they're

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Speaker 2: placing a tremendous amount of emphasis on money. Money doesn't

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Speaker 2: buy you in an election, but it helps Roy Cooper goes.

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Speaker 2: I strongly support VP Harris. I know she's going to win.

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Speaker 2: I was honored to be considered. This just wasn't the

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Speaker 2: right time for North Carolina or for me to be

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Speaker 2: potentially on a national ticket. What I can't work out is,

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Speaker 2: though you're not on the national ticket because you think

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Speaker 2: you're going to lose in reality and you don't want

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Speaker 2: to be tainted by that. Or do you get on

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Speaker 2: the national ticket if you can, knowing that the party

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Speaker 2: will thank you for it no matter which way it goes.

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Speaker 2: But then we get to the business of this paperwork

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Speaker 2: from Chuck Grassley's office, text messages and radio chatter between

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Speaker 2: law enforcement on the day of the shooting. This is crooks.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you never underestimate. Here's what I've decided post COVID.

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Speaker 2: Never underrested. This is global, never run and you can

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Speaker 2: do it with the Seine River as well in the

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Speaker 2: French and all their cardboard beds and all the other

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Speaker 2: crap that's going on at the moment. Never underestimate, just

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Speaker 2: plain incompetence and laziness. If you're looking for some sort

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Speaker 2: of sophisticated plot as to why things didn't happen. Never

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Speaker 2: rule out just idiots are running the place, So what

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Speaker 2: grassly released? Yesterday? Enforcement officers knew of and raise the

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Speaker 2: shooter's presence at the rally more than ninety minutes before

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Speaker 2: he climbed on the roof five fourteen pm Local time.

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Speaker 2: Officer takes photos of them. They take photos of crooks

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Speaker 2: sitting outside kid around the building we're in. I did

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Speaker 2: see him with a range finder looking towards stage. FYI,

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Speaker 2: if you want to notify SS snipers to look out,

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Speaker 2: I lost sight of him. Five point thirty eight. Beaver

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Speaker 2: County sniper sends the photos of crook's to Beaver Butler

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Speaker 2: and Washington Snipers group Chat five forty. Call it into

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Speaker 2: command and have a uniform check it out five fifty one.

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Speaker 2: Ten minutes later, an officer sends the images to a

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Speaker 2: second group chat, tells the other members to ford it.

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Speaker 2: If you want to send this to whoever at command.

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Speaker 2: Someone responds at five fifty one cent lost track where

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Speaker 2: crooks had gone just fifteen minutes before shooting. They're asking

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Speaker 2: for a direction of travel five fifty nine. Someone responded

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Speaker 2: a minute later, not sure he was up against the building.

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Speaker 2: If I had to guess towards the back away from

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Speaker 2: the event, and you wonder why it all went wrong.

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Speaker 1: Ten to seven The Mike Hostle Breakfast with Flies, Real

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Speaker 1: Estate Hughes Talks indeed backs up what.

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Speaker 2: I have been saying for a number of years in

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Speaker 2: this country, Mike. The afour airlines are rex Avigation. In

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Speaker 2: Australia's gone into administration. There are four airlines quantus including Jetstar,

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Speaker 2: Virgin Rex and bondser two airline groups for twenty six

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Speaker 2: million people's twenty seven now. Hence we're unlikely to see

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Speaker 2: any further airlines in New Zealand with five million people.

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Speaker 2: And to suggests the same applies to the supermarket. It's

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying in many areas despite everyone going there

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Speaker 2: must be a problem, there must be a problem. The

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Speaker 2: only actual problem is we don't have enough people. Then

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Speaker 2: we come to this myopic obsession some of the media

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Speaker 2: have at the moment over whether Retty was right around

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Speaker 2: health is a fourteen layers of management is at twelves

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Speaker 2: at thirteen. I don't care. I don't care, and stop

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Speaker 2: being so bloody my oper and staring at your belly

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Speaker 2: button and cover the actual story. What's the actual story?

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Speaker 2: The actual story is.

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Speaker 22: Outlined by the Prime Minister this way that a patient

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Speaker 22: it interacts with a team member. The team member reports

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Speaker 22: the team supervisor, who reports the team leader.

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Speaker 7: A team leader reports to the assistant manager.

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Speaker 22: The assistant manager reports to the manager, who reports the

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Speaker 22: service manager, who then reports.

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Speaker 7: The general manager. The general manager.

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Speaker 22: You might be asking who do they report to, Well,

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Speaker 22: they report to the group director of operations, and of

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Speaker 22: course they report to the regional director, the national director,

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Speaker 22: eventually the chief of staff, then the chief executive, and

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Speaker 22: of course they reports the chair and the board.

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Speaker 2: Now, the fact that that's fourteen doesn't matter. What matters

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Speaker 2: is when you listen to that and this is the

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Speaker 2: real story. When we spend thirty billion dollars on health

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Speaker 2: in this country, does that list of people strike you

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Speaker 2: as good, cutting edge frontline healthcare or a shambles five

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Speaker 2: away from seven, the ins.

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Speaker 4: And the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fiz with business fiber, take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Right rents, they're up being a landlord, ain't easy. Census

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Speaker 2: darted this morning. So what that tells us over two

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Speaker 2: million dwellings in this country of those two million, six

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty thousand are rented, is about one point

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Speaker 2: three million tenants in those rental accommodations. Reason there isn't

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Speaker 2: more is because of what they call the yield gap.

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Speaker 2: Now this is coming to us from core Logic this morning.

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Speaker 2: Average rental property yield is three percent, while your mortgage

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Speaker 2: for the average two year rate is currently seven percent.

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Speaker 2: You see we were going here, that's four percent gap.

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Speaker 2: That gap is the widest it's been since two thousand

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Speaker 2: and eight. So it ain't easy being a landlord at

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Speaker 2: the moment. Currently twenty one percent of residential buyers or

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Speaker 2: investors are whereas the norms between twenty five and thirty.

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Speaker 2: So it's hard work being a residential investor at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Hence they're not so Rents where are they going?

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Speaker 13: Up?

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Speaker 2: Westland up twenty three percent, rote A Ruer up eleven,

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Speaker 2: up a hut Nelson Palms to the North up ten, Hastings

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Speaker 2: up nine, New Plymouth up eight, christ Ditch up seven.

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Speaker 2: Rents on average went up six percent in May, which

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Speaker 2: is almost double the long term average increase of three

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Speaker 2: point two. So you've got this sort of this betwixt

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Speaker 2: between business you're screaming about your rent, and quite rightly,

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Speaker 2: who wants rents going up? Because there it's inflationary. Every

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Speaker 2: time your rent goes up beyond the rate of inflation,

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Speaker 2: it's inflationary. Meantime, you got your poor old landlord who's

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Speaker 2: busy paying seven percent plus on the mortgage and not

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Speaker 2: getting a return. So you think, well, I'm better off

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Speaker 2: just sticking cash in the bank. I'll click the property,

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Speaker 2: stick the cash in the bank. And that's part of

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Speaker 2: the housing dilemma slash dichotomy at the moment. Right, then

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Speaker 2: we come to speaking of local governments and rents and

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Speaker 2: rates and all that sort of thing. Then we come

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Speaker 2: to the bitch session we have currently between local government

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Speaker 2: and central government, and local government going yeah, you can't

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Speaker 2: in again any extentive and so they want to run

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Speaker 2: more of their own lives until you you come, of

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Speaker 2: course to the Maury Wards Bill, which got passed into

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Speaker 2: law yesterday, at which point the local councils then go,

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Speaker 2: why don't you leave us alone? Just leave us alone

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Speaker 2: and let her do our own thing. When it comes

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Speaker 2: to money, help us out, but when it comes to

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Speaker 2: other decisions, leave us alone. So there's another dilemma come dichotomy.

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Speaker 2: Simming and Brown on this in the next half hour

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Speaker 2: of the program. And then the head of Try New

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Speaker 2: Zealand or Triathlon New Zealand. And when I say Triathlon

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, it could actually be Duathlon New Zealand, so

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Speaker 2: his title make change in the next half hour. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: all of that after the News, which is next.

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Speaker 1: The Big News, Bold Opinions, the mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy

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Speaker 1: three news togsad.

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Speaker 2: Be only seven past seven. The central local government angst

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Speaker 2: continues this morning. We have any report it's by the

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Speaker 2: Institute of Economic Research that finds millions of dollars of

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Speaker 2: being imposed on council through a one size fits all approach.

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Speaker 2: Are the organization's calling for unfunded rules and responsibilities to

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Speaker 2: win the local government Minister Simeon Brown is in charge

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Speaker 2: all this, of course needs with us. Good morning. Do

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Speaker 2: they have a point?

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Speaker 23: I think in some areas they do. But the other

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Speaker 23: point I'd make is local government needs to do what

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Speaker 23: or the central government has just done, which is go

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Speaker 23: line by line through their expenditure and find savings to

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Speaker 23: stop passing on such significant rate increases to rate paths,

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Speaker 23: which is what we're seeing this year.

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Speaker 2: And is that part of the problem. They've shot themselves

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Speaker 2: on the foot and they don't actually have a leg

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Speaker 2: to stand on at the moment.

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Speaker 23: Well, the reality is on the same day that we

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Speaker 23: as a government are providing tax relief to New Zealanders

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Speaker 23: local government New Zealanders coming out where the report yes

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Speaker 23: to some good points around the imposition of costs, but

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Speaker 23: they're still advocating for more speed, for more speed limit reductions.

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Speaker 23: They're still advocating for speed bumps everywhere. They're still advocating

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Speaker 23: for the stiper lands everywhere. So they need to get

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Speaker 23: their priorities in order, some core business and stop wasting

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Speaker 23: money is one of.

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Speaker 2: The points they make. In the previous government they said

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Speaker 2: change all the science for speeds and stuff, and now

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Speaker 2: you're going backwards. So there's a bit of back and

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Speaker 2: forward depending on what central government of the day does

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Speaker 2: they incur cost Well, I wrote.

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Speaker 23: To alls just after the election, I said, look, we're

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Speaker 23: going to change the rules so you know, tie hoe

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Speaker 23: on slowing people down. And some councils continue to put

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Speaker 23: speed limit reductions in place, that's a choice they made.

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Speaker 23: I made a repair and look we're going to make

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Speaker 23: funding available through the Land Transport Fund the support councils

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Speaker 23: are to reverse those speedingments. But ultimately we're afflicting what

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Speaker 23: New Zealanders voted for at the last election and delivering

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Speaker 23: on our promises.

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Speaker 2: What about things like fines and their ability to set finds?

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Speaker 2: Is that fair or not?

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Speaker 23: I think that's a fair point. And there I think

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Speaker 23: is cost recovery for particularly some of the areas around

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Speaker 23: our local alcohol policies and rules, having cost recovery is

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Speaker 23: an important principle. There's things we can look at and

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Speaker 23: I think there are some fair points raised in that report.

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Speaker 19: But I just bringing it back to this point.

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Speaker 23: Local government needs to do exactly what central government does

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Speaker 23: has just done, and go line by line through expenditure,

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Speaker 23: focusing on the must haves, not the nice to have

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Speaker 23: and cutting out the waste.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What I find ironic is they can't get into

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Speaker 2: your face enough when it comes to money. But when

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Speaker 2: you did the maor Reward thing which passed last night,

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Speaker 2: they said leave us alone and let us do our

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Speaker 2: own things. So do they want you to leave you

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Speaker 2: alone or get any foe, which is it.

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Speaker 23: Well, they call themselves local government New Zealand, but I

687
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Speaker 23: think the most local form of local government is letting

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Speaker 23: local communities individuals make decisions through the ballot boxed. They

689
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Speaker 23: are opposed to that, and so they're opposed to actual

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Speaker 23: what we believe in as localism, and so they've literally

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Speaker 23: lost touch to me in Auckland's not a member, christ

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Speaker 23: which is not a member. A bunch of other councils

693
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Speaker 23: have left local government New Zealand. They've gone woke on

694
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Speaker 23: a number of issues. They actually need to reflect the

695
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Speaker 23: priorities of New Zealanders, focusing on core business rather than

696
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Speaker 23: simply just trying to advocate the left wing agenda of

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Speaker 23: the last government.

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Speaker 2: Well see simm And Brown, who's the local government also

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Speaker 2: the Transport Minister of course. Ten minutes past seven, I

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Speaker 2: quite agree. Read the media's obsession with fourteen layers. It's pathetic.

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Speaker 2: Chris lux And owned Hipkins in the house yesterday. Yeah

702
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Speaker 2: he did two and a half thousand more middle management.

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Speaker 2: I am genuinely perplexed with the media at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, Mike. The real story is the multiple

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Speaker 2: levels of management and the health system our reporters are

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Speaker 2: almost criminal in the way they choose to pursue their

707
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Speaker 2: political gender. Yeah, I'm genuinely perplexed at the moment people

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Speaker 2: seem to be honing in on Recky as though there's

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Speaker 2: some sort of scandal brewing fourteen thirteen, twelve eleven. What's

710
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Speaker 2: it matter? What's important is a thirty billion dollars system

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Speaker 2: that is not spending money adequately, frugally and sensibly at

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Speaker 2: the front end of the spectrum. Surely that's the story.

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Speaker 2: Or I could play you Chris Luxen again, which might

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Speaker 2: remind you just how bad it actually is.

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Speaker 22: That a patient it interacts with a team member. A

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Speaker 22: team member reports the team supervisor, who reports the team leader.

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Speaker 7: A team leader reports to the assistant manager.

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Speaker 22: The assistant manager reports to the manager, who reports the

719
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Speaker 22: service manager, who then reports the general manager.

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Speaker 7: The general manager might be asking who do they report to?

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Speaker 22: Well, they report to the group director of operations, and

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Speaker 22: of course they report to the regional director, the national director,

723
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Speaker 22: eventually the chief of staff, then the chief executive, and

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Speaker 22: of course they reports the chair.

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Speaker 11: And the board.

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Speaker 2: Husky even pass seven new data on accommodation of Queenstown.

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Speaker 2: Story so far, who've got reports of tourism operators this

728
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Speaker 2: week buying up empty hotels to help house staff. Because

729
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Speaker 2: this is not a new problem, of course, And this

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Speaker 2: morning one roof has an average house price now topping

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Speaker 2: two million dollars average. Queenstow Lake's Community Housing Trust chief

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Speaker 2: executive Julie Scott's with us on this July Very good

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Speaker 2: morning to you.

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Speaker 24: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: So in totality you're winning or losing.

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Speaker 24: Well, we would probably have to say that we're losing.

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Speaker 24: At the moment. We're thirteen hundred households on our waiting list.

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Speaker 24: It's a pretty tough ask when property prices are coming

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Speaker 24: in at two million on average.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Airbnb story, is that a major factor in

741
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Speaker 2: all of this or not? In other words, houses largely empty?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, absolutely it is. So. The last census STARTA told

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Speaker 24: us that twenty seven percent of homes in our district

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Speaker 24: are unoccupied. So we can certainly say that Airbnb and

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Speaker 24: those other visitor accommodation platforms are having an impact on

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Speaker 24: long term rental properties for our local families.

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Speaker 2: That purchasing of you know, old hotels or whatever, large

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Speaker 2: bits of accommodation by tourism operators is that a model

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Speaker 2: is that in some way, shape or form the future,

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Speaker 2: do you think, Look.

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Speaker 24: It definitely forms part of the future. So it has

752
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Speaker 24: had a positive impact on the seasonal worker accommodation, certainly

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Speaker 24: if you look at some of the businesses in town,

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Speaker 24: likes of Bended Ski Really indeed in Skyline have all

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Speaker 24: bought motels and backpackers and been contributing and providing accommodation

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Speaker 24: for their own stuff, So that can only be a

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Speaker 24: positive impact.

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Speaker 2: How many rentals are available do you know right here,

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Speaker 2: right now this morning, and do people have the money

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Speaker 2: for them?

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Speaker 24: Look, I don't have those details on me. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: But is everything tight? In other words, if I turned

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Speaker 2: up tomorrow to be a guy who works the ski

764
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Speaker 2: lift at bucker Parpa, it's hard work.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, you might find yourself down at the Frankton Beach

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Speaker 24: for a couple of nights before you sort out accommodation.

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Speaker 24: It is very tough, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, mind you, it's not I can't see how it changes. Duly,

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Speaker 2: because you're one of the most beautiful parts of the world,

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Speaker 2: and in all beautiful parts of the world, whether it

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Speaker 2: be Aspen or the Italian or French helps life's expensive.

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Speaker 2: That's what happens, isn't it.

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Speaker 24: That's right, But it's also about supply and deman so

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Speaker 24: we do need to ensure that this more housing supply

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Speaker 24: is available to those workers and the district who need it.

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Speaker 24: So there is a number of levers and tools that

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Speaker 24: we can use to achieve that. We've always argued that

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Speaker 24: there's no one silver bullet. There are different tools that

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Speaker 24: we can use.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, Julie, have a good day. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Julie Scott, Queenstowne Lakes Community Housing, fifteen plus seven. Ask

782
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Speaker 2: all of these weird stories. I'm sort of pleased for

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Speaker 2: Smith and Coey downsize and going online. I'm not sure

784
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Speaker 2: that's really your recipe to save yourself at Paper Plus

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Speaker 2: Seaman trouble and it's you know, it's certainly lots of

786
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Speaker 2: businesses close and fold, most of which we've never heard of.

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Speaker 2: But then you hear Smith and Coey's. Then you hear

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Speaker 2: an SPQR in Auckland, very well known resident. Then you

789
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: hear Paper Plus they've breached their deal with the banks,

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Speaker 2: negative working capital of two point two million, two and

791
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: a half million in loans with the B and Z.

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Speaker 2: That net loss means they've breached there. They're going to

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Speaker 2: have to raise some money. So they're in a pile

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Speaker 2: of trouble. And it's that household name stuff that sort

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Speaker 2: of affects you, doesn't it. It becomes emotional when you

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00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: got geez paper. Plus where am I going to go now?

797
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: If you know? If it all turns pear shape? So

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00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: like so many other businesses, we wish them, we wish

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Speaker 2: them well. Fourteen passed the mic hosting rakers seventeen past seven.

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Speaker 2: So the try in Paris is turning into a shambles.

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Speaker 2: The rivers do dirty. The events been delayed, of course,

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Speaker 2: So where are we actually at? Triansler in New Zealand?

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Speaker 2: Boss Peat the wets weathers from Paris morning.

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Speaker 13: Hey, Mike Good's say, what are your feelings on this?

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Speaker 4: Is this a mess?

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Speaker 13: It's a fairly big distraction, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 13: But I think at the end of the day, we've

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Speaker 13: we've known that there have been some challenges, So it's

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Speaker 13: just about trying to adapt in the moment and ensure

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Speaker 13: that we're as prepared as.

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Speaker 4: We can be.

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00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: And how literal, where literally are we at? When's the

813
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: decision made? And will the decision be final.

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Speaker 13: So there's a three thirty am meeting every morning to

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Speaker 13: discuss the the quality of the water and we normally

816
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Speaker 13: get communication after that between four and four fifteen ams,

817
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 13: so and that's local times. So at four fifteen tomorrow

818
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Speaker 13: we all know what the plan is for tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: When does it get turned into a duathlon?

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Speaker 13: If it does so, if they have to postpone tomorrow,

821
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Speaker 13: they do have another reserve day, which is the second

822
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Speaker 13: of August, which is Friday, so they'll do the same thing.

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Speaker 13: There'll be a meeting on Friday morning at three point

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Speaker 13: thirty and at four fifteen they'll let us know whether

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Speaker 13: the quality of the water is give enough to swimming,

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Speaker 13: and if it isn't, then it'll change to chiathlon.

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Speaker 2: Given what we know about the sin historically speaking, was

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Speaker 2: this always going to be trouble.

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Speaker 13: I think we expected that it might be, But if

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Speaker 13: you consider the amounts of investment that they've made in

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Speaker 13: trying to improve the quality of the water through all

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Speaker 13: the filtration systems that they've put in, we were pretty

833
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Speaker 13: hopeful that it might sort itself out. But yet it

834
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 13: certainly hasn't helped. That we've had the weather that we

835
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Speaker 13: had which was kind of unexpected given they hadn't REDI

836
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Speaker 13: had that level grain in July, So yeah, I mean

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Speaker 13: it's yeah, we're we're just trying to focus on what

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Speaker 13: we can control and providing a good environment for athletes,

839
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Speaker 13: and you know, that's really what we're trying to do

840
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Speaker 13: on the ground.

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Speaker 2: How do you explain to an athlete who's trained their

842
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Speaker 2: whole life for this moment that, sorry, mate, there's only

843
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: two events instead of three. It's a duo, not a try.

844
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I think the athletes are pretty aware of that. It

846
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Speaker 13: wouldn't be the first time that they've had opportunities where

847
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 13: water quality hasn't been good and events been turned to

848
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Speaker 13: a jaffline. Obviously, it's not an Olympic Games, so that's

849
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Speaker 13: pretty unprecedented and they'd certainly be disappointed. But at the

850
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Speaker 13: end of the day, we know what's in front of us.

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Speaker 13: I'm hoping that the athletes will accept that if that's

852
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 13: what comes their way. But yeah, we've got to remain

853
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Speaker 13: positive and hope that tomorrow we get these two triathlons.

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Speaker 2: Underway and really go well. Peter DeWitt, who's the head

855
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Speaker 2: of Trifle on New Zealand Morning Mike here on the

856
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Speaker 2: Edmund layers and health hubbies a GP and all the

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Speaker 2: layers cause of waste of time, Mike, I'm a lowly

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Speaker 2: admint and health system. The layer of revelations relayers of

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Speaker 2: management is absolutely true, Mike. The fact nobody can tell

860
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Speaker 2: whether it's twelve thirteen or one hundred and fifty is

861
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Speaker 2: proof enough. There are too many layers. They're right seven

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882
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Speaker 2: August SKI seven twenty four hour. New Zealand, of course

883
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: came in for a hard climate landing by announcing their

884
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: twenty thirty emissions targets are two hearts, so they're not

885
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: doing them. They are withdrawing from the International science based

886
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: Target's Initiative. Now this is not their fault, other than

887
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: to say they probably, like so many other businesses, should

888
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: not have made the promise in the first place. The

889
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: reason for dropping the plan is simple. Not a lot

890
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: of what they thought might happen has They can't get

891
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: new planes because the people who build planes have their

892
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: own troubles. The fuel alternatives that may or may not

893
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: have been produced by now haven't been. There's a lot

894
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: of policy and regulatory work, both locally and globally that

895
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: hasn't been done. In other words, like so many of

896
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: these aspirations signed up to at so many of these

897
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: meetings in summits, good intent overrode common sense until the

898
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: real world came calling. It's not, unlike AI, another modern

899
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 2: day fizz bomb that will change everything until it changes

900
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: not a lot. We live in a world where power

901
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: production barely keeps the lights on FAI less a crypto

902
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: data center. AI generated future are The French have made

903
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: the athletes, as you just heard, you know, lie on

904
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 2: cardboard beds while they can't swim in the river. Indonesia's

905
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: wrecking their landscape, not to mention their environment, mining nickel

906
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: for evs and other of the modern world's absurd ironies.

907
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: Twenty thirty is the new twenty twenty. The world was

908
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: going to be like the Jetsons in twenty twenty until

909
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 2: it wasn't. Now twenty thirty is barely five years away.

910
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: That's a bit close to make grandiose promises. I know

911
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: down New Zealand are sticking with their twenty to fifty

912
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: net zero promise. Small side bet a lot of people

913
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: who said they would be net zero by twenty fifty

914
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 2: won't be. But we'll have to wait until at least

915
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: twenty forty five before they announce it. The trouble is

916
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: blind optimism and collective jollys doesn't a goal reach. Signing

917
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: the signing the Paris Accord was fun and easy. The

918
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: next bit was where we started to get a bit

919
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: tripped up. Pasking the Prime Minister reciting that list of

920
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: management levels, Mike sounded like a John Clark's speed. Well,

921
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: that's the absurdity. It's so absurd you can't make this up.

922
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: Hence my frustration with the Prime Miniscu yesterday. It's like,

923
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 2: can you believe the crap you've inherited? Average house price

924
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 2: is the wrong measure and QT Mike, with a reasonable

925
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: number of ultra high end housing skewing the average. Actually

926
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: that's a very good point. By the time you look

927
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: at the ten plus million dollar houses, it does skew

928
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: it upwards, Mike. Councils are full of lefty socialists and

929
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: bureaucrats overriding the elected representatives. My rates and Tasman, you

930
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: have gone up thirteen percent or seven hundred and fifty

931
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: one dollars this year, on top of the six percent

932
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: and the eleven percent the previous two years. Yeah, if

933
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: they just ty hoe on the old cost plus accounting bollocks,

934
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: then maybe, just maybe we'd get somewhere. Morning Mike's sad

935
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: news and f one overnight Red Bull have given up

936
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: trying to win. Time for Liam to find an Audi.

937
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that bad, simon, if you've missed

938
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: the news. They've confirmed that Sugio Peries will stay with

939
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: them for the season. I say for the season, not

940
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: necessarily beyond that. Hence the hope for Liam. Liam's probably

941
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: going to end up in VCARB the second team. Will

942
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: they jettison Ricardo out and so you'll end up with

943
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: Sonoda and Liam. You don't want to go to Audi.

944
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: The reason you don't want to go to Audi is

945
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: because Science didn't go to Audi. Science could have on

946
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: pretty much anywhere. He wanted full factory backing millions upon

947
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: millions upon millions of dollars to stick into engines and

948
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: production and all that sort of stuff. Why didn't he?

949
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: And half the people are running OUTI he knows personally

950
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: from Ferrari days. Why didn't he go to Audi and

951
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: why has he ended up at Williams, which is a

952
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: side that you think Jesus, are they going anywhere? Well,

953
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: James Valles would argue, yes, they are speaking of evs,

954
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: a global expert on battery technologies in the country at

955
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: the moment, talking to all the people who are loving

956
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: the evs. Where are we at with these batteries? Where

957
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: are they going? What's the technology, how much mining's going on,

958
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: how difficult environmentally is it? So sort of a bring

959
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 2: you up to speed with a wonderful world of the

960
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: future of I don't know what do you call it

961
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: science or I don't know, maybe just playing batteries. In

962
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: the next half hour after the news which is next

963
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: to here at news talks.

964
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: Are demanding the answers from the decision makers. The mic

965
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: asking breakfast with a vida, retirement, communities, life your way,

966
00:44:59,440 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: News talks.

967
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this Elbanezy as in the Australian

968
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 2: Prime Minister wants Barnaby Joyce, the name you will know, sacked.

969
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: Why does he want him sacked? Well, Barnaby's over the

970
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: weekend at a rally. He's talking about he's in lake Illa,

971
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: Warren and it's rally against wind turbines. And he says

972
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: this to the crowd. Their greatest weapon, the crowd. The

973
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: crowd's greatest weapon to oppose the turbines was to quote,

974
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: turn up in numbers in Canberra and Sydney. And the

975
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: bullet you have is that little piece of paper and

976
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: it goes into that magazine called the voting box, and

977
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: it's coming up. Get ready to load that magazine. Go

978
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: goodbye Chris, goodbye Stephen, goodbye elbow. And when they see that,

979
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: they'll let you in their office for a meeting. And

980
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: as a result of that, they want Barnaby sacked. Is

981
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: that a sackable offense? We'll talk to Stephen at our

982
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 2: twenty three to eight Politics Wednesday VI, Jimmy Anderson and

983
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell. Of course, we'll check and see how Mark's

984
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: injury is. According to Andrew Sebil on Monday, he made

985
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: one tackle and put his back out. And I don't

986
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: think I was watching Question Time yesterday. He was there,

987
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: not that she was playing rugby, but I don't think

988
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: I saw Mark there. So Mark could be joining us

989
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: in traction here.

990
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 24: Reckon.

991
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 25: There's a lot of that sort of thing that went

992
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 25: on in that game. Quite a bit of that thing

993
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 25: hat quite a few reserves, to be fair.

994
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: I was watching, as I say, question time, Shane Jones

995
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: was asked a question and he got up and he

996
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 2: sat down, and he got up, and he sat down,

997
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: and he got up and he sat down with fluidity.

998
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: Extraordinary flexibility for a large man, I thought to myself.

999
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: And anyway, more on that later on. Where are we

1000
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: back to wear? In New Zealand? As I said before

1001
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: the news, they pulled the pen on this twenty thirty

1002
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: carbon emissions target due to the resources needed being unaffordable, unavailable,

1003
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: not to mention regulation, all sorts of things. Professor and

1004
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: applied mathematics specializing in climate change, Robert McLaughlin is with

1005
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: us on this. Robert, very good morning to you.

1006
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 8: Good morning.

1007
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 2: So this has got international coverage the BBC, for example,

1008
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: le New Zealand becomes first major EA ligne in the

1009
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: world to drop twenty thirty climate goal. Are we setting

1010
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: a bad precedent here?

1011
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1012
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 23: I think so.

1013
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 8: I was surprised by this. I didn't see it coming,

1014
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 8: so surprised and disappointed of it. And one made a

1015
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 8: lot of hay out of this when they signed up

1016
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty two. It's not so long ago. So yeah,

1017
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 8: I think it's a bit soon to be pulling out

1018
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 8: of a twenty thirty target.

1019
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: If you can't do something, you can't do something, what

1020
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: else should they do?

1021
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 8: Well, the many other airlines, big airlines around the world

1022
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 8: are still in this system. It's called the Science Based

1023
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 8: Targets Initiative. So it's a private initiative, voluntary initiative, but

1024
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 8: it is backed by the UN. It's pretty credible, and

1025
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 8: other airlines are sticking to it, so China Airlines, Delta United.

1026
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 8: So it can be done. But yep, as you said,

1027
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 8: it is difficult. It's going to require some investment in

1028
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 8: more efficient planes and new low carbon aviation fuels.

1029
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: But when you say they're sticking to it, are they

1030
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 2: sticking to it or are they just they're going to

1031
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: announce in the next week or so exactly what any

1032
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: New Zealands announced. In other words, everyone's working out they

1033
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 2: can't stick to it.

1034
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 8: Yes, So the purpose of these voluntary corporate initiatives, it's

1035
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 8: kind of a commitment mechanism. You state to claim publicly,

1036
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 8: you say, yep, we've got this credible target, and we

1037
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 8: will stand up and be tracked against it. So that

1038
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 8: is the purpose of how this is.

1039
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 25: Supposed to work.

1040
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 8: Outside a lot of other large New Zealand companies are

1041
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 8: in the same initiative Fonterra, Fletcher Building Contact, and that

1042
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 8: is how it's supposed to work. That everyone gets to

1043
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 8: examine how they're tracking and see if they're achieving their goals.

1044
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: Are we just getting a reality check? I mean, if

1045
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: you're an airline you can't buy planes because they can't

1046
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: make them fast enough and there is no aviational fuel

1047
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: that's suitable at this present point in time, then that's

1048
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: your reality check, isn't it.

1049
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1050
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 8: It is a tricky sector, and some of the claims

1051
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 8: by the sector, like zero twenty fifty are a little

1052
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 8: bit implausible and not credible. So that's why we really

1053
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 8: want to see a bit of short term progress. It

1054
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 8: doesn't have to be revolutionary, We just want small, steady steps.

1055
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: Really in that should we temper our excitement because I

1056
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: was suggesting before the news the reality here as a

1057
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: lot of these people jumped on, there's a bit of

1058
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: green washing going on here among Court and me. I'm

1059
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 2: nunn ay corporate Muzealan at the whole world, everyone wants

1060
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: to be on a bandwagon. What's the point of being

1061
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: on a bandwagon if you've got a backtrack because it's

1062
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: not real.

1063
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 8: Well, there is greenwashing, of course, and there's companies do

1064
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 8: make sometimes make unrealistic claims, but there's also genuine progress.

1065
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 8: And I think the government will be disappointed by this,

1066
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 8: because if you hear the messaging this same thing, they

1067
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 8: do want the industries and business world to step up

1068
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 8: a bit more and not have everything just done by

1069
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 8: government regulation, which is true, it does require a partnership.

1070
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 8: So I think the government would be disappointed by this.

1071
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: Good on your Robert, appreciate your time. Robert McLaughlin, Professor

1072
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: and applied mathematics specializing in climate change, nineteen minutes away

1073
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: from seven Tasking, ninety minutes away from I always remember

1074
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Speaker 2: Barry Sopher got upset with me a number of years

1075
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: ago because he was on a trip to Hawaii with

1076
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Speaker 2: their New Zealand and they went to a nut farm

1077
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: and the nuts were going to be made into this

1078
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: special new fuel.

1079
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Speaker 20: That was sorry, you mean an actual, no, no.

1080
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 2: Real nut farm, And so I said on air, perhaps

1081
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Speaker 2: in a moment of loose tongueness, I said Barrie's on

1082
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Speaker 2: another junket. And Barry took exception to that, and he

1083
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: said it wasn't It wasn't a junket. It was a

1084
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 2: scientific research project from which they would squeeze the nuts

1085
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 2: and make planes fly. And I suggested to Barry Hill

1086
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: have conveniently forgotten all this. Of course I suggested to

1087
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: Barry at the time. I said, Barry, they're never going

1088
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: to be making that sort of fuel, and in New

1089
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: Zealand they're never going to be flying with nut juice,

1090
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: and just give it up. And it's not And here

1091
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: I am, in twenty twenty four, proven to be right.

1092
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: It is eighteen to two cost breakfast. I'm just trying

1093
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: to work out where I found this piece of work yesterday,

1094
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: and I can't. I could be the herald David Seymour

1095
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: My letter to the organizations who wrote yes this time

1096
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: yesterday our news service was running an open letter from

1097
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: yet more people who were whining about David Seymour is

1098
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: white Tangy Treaty's Bill or Treaty bill. Politics seems uniquely

1099
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: set up rights David in reply, Politics seems uniquely set

1100
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: up to magnify differences, but somehow misses what unites us,

1101
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: even though the latter is much bigger. On an excellent line, traditionally,

1102
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: universal human rights have been a touchstone of our nation

1103
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: and all the good historical movements elsewhere as well. Votes

1104
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 2: for women, civil rights movement in America, end of apartheid

1105
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: in South Africa, and the right to be yourself and

1106
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: who you love, regardless of sexuality. These two themes come

1107
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: together in Tatidity Oh Our Tangi, and in the government's

1108
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: Treaty Principle's Bill. The bill emphasizes the universal human rights

1109
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 2: that appear throughout Tatidity and invites an open debate on it.

1110
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: The Treaty Principle's Bill will present a version of the

1111
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 2: Principles more closely linked to what the Treaty says. We

1112
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: all have the same rights and duties. There's another one

1113
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: of these arguments. I can't quite get my head around.

1114
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: It's like that bloke we just talked to a moment ago.

1115
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: We're talking off here. I mean, he's in you know,

1116
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's a nice guy, but he's in fantasy land.

1117
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: He knows full well.

1118
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 26: That I said to you that he's not in fantasy land.

1119
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 26: He's sort of the conduit between you and fantasy land.

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00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: It is just he knows, doesn't he?

1121
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 26: Or you knows he can speak both languages almost.

1122
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 2: Exactly anyway where I was with this, this is the thing.

1123
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: So the same rights and duties? Now, why are we

1124
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: even having an argument in this country about the same

1125
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: rights and duties, about having a country where everybody, no

1126
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: matter what their races, has the same rights and duties.

1127
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: Why are we having that argument unless there are people

1128
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: so deluded that they can't see the wood for the truth,

1129
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 2: and that, unfortunately is the truth. All New Zealanders have

1130
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 2: tina rangetia tanga right today. But the right to self

1131
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 2: determine not only married. Does that not make just plain,

1132
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: good old fashioned common sense. So the people, he says,

1133
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: who wrote the open letter to the Prime Minister yesterday's

1134
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 2: News demanded that we debate the debates shouldn't even take place.

1135
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: New Zealand needs this debate, he says. Don't try to

1136
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: deny others open debate. You're entitled to hold your own opinions,

1137
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 2: of course, but not to suppress others. Don't deny someone

1138
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: in an opinion because they're not an expert. Don't accuse

1139
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: people of racism for not agreeing with you. New Zealand

1140
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: should be a place where anyone can flourish, and that

1141
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: to me is the weirdest thing in the world. What

1142
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 2: Seymour and Seymour's argument, because national are not supporting, is

1143
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: they'll support it to the first reading and beyond that

1144
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: they're not. That's their mistake. But at Seymour's argument on

1145
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: this bill is let's have the discussion, and by having

1146
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: the discussion you might be surprised at the number of

1147
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 2: people who come on board with it. That's all he's

1148
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 2: asking to have the discussion. But the people who wrote

1149
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: the letter yesterday, they don't even want the discussion because

1150
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: they're right. We're wrong, because we're thick and we don't

1151
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 2: deserve a say. That's essentially what they're saying, and so

1152
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 2: Seymour tries to counterbalance them that and then that I

1153
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: wish them all the very best. Eleven Away from eight.

1154
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Speaker 1: Cost visited with a Vida Retirement, Communities News to sad Base.

1155
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Speaker 2: How do I from We've got a world leading bettery

1156
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: electrochemist in the country. Despective of the ev industry. The

1157
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: Imist provide an international perspective on the availability of raw

1158
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: materials for batteries. Have a look at the current technology

1159
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: and where it's all hitting. Doctor Ewan McTurk is his name,

1160
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: and he's with us. Good morning to you, sir, Good

1161
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 2: morning Mike. I was reading an article of the other

1162
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: Din Australia fund raising at the moment for you know

1163
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 2: these gargentuan betteries for storage, not for cars, but for

1164
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: storage in general. That's sort of technology. Is it the

1165
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: same in evse? In other words, where betteries go, all

1166
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 2: betteries go.

1167
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 9: There's there's actually quite a broad church of battery chemistries now,

1168
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 9: and when it comes to grid scale energy storage, they

1169
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 9: tend to be using lithium iron phosphate, which is basically

1170
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 9: lithium rust and a bit of fertilizer in It is

1171
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 9: incredibly cheap, abundant, safe, long lasting. And the good news

1172
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 9: is that that kind of chemistry is being used in

1173
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 9: modern electric vehicles too, so the likes of byd MG,

1174
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 9: the standard range Tesla Model three and one, they use

1175
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 9: that as well. But there are other chemistries that are

1176
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 9: used in other electric vehicles. There's also an increasing number

1177
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 9: of different types of chemistries that are are far flung

1178
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 9: and totally different from lithium ion that can be used

1179
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 9: in large scale grid stories too, So there's a great

1180
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 9: diversification of chemistries and of the materials that are used.

1181
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 9: So yeah, it's not just one size fits all this

1182
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 9: there's quite a lot of interesting development at the moment.

1183
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: Are you talking to me as a scientist or do

1184
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: you also love batteries and lobbbes.

1185
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 9: So I didn't choose the plug life. The plug life

1186
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 9: chose me.

1187
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: Basically.

1188
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 9: When I was an undergrad, I was always interested in

1189
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 9: green technology and what would become my first TV happened

1190
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 9: to pull up outside the Physics building at the University

1191
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 9: of Dundee. It was a nineteen ninety nine Puguo one

1192
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 9: O six electric with NICAB batteries in it, and at

1193
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 9: that point I knew I want to do something with this.

1194
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 9: This seems cool. I didn't know they existed back then.

1195
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 9: So yeah, fast forward however many years, that is fifteen years,

1196
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 9: and I've now got my own consultancy working on anything

1197
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 9: to do with technical stateg for public outreach, whether it's

1198
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 9: battery electric emistry. I've done my time in the lab

1199
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 9: working on new chemistries and improving existing ones.

1200
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: And also, sorry to other article, Radius guy was China's

1201
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: I have attaking Indonesia in the nickel business, and they

1202
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: are digging nickel like this now tomorrow versus somebody like

1203
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: Elon is busy saying let's do it and borrow. Mentally,

1204
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: where are we at with that? Is it ever going

1205
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: to be clean, green and acceptable or not?

1206
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 18: Oh?

1207
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 9: Is it definitely getting cleaner basically elemented by element. And

1208
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 9: on that note, New Zealand is in a cracking position

1209
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 9: because you've actually got your own nickel deposits, You've got

1210
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 9: phosphate reserves, you've got lithium brines as well, not just

1211
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 9: any old brines, geothermal brines. And the advantage of that

1212
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 9: is you can use a very clever technique called direct

1213
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 9: lithium extraction to very quickly and efficiently remove lithium from

1214
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 9: that geothermal fluid. And you can also use the heat

1215
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 9: from that fluid, because funnily enough, it's near abolcano, it's

1216
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 9: very hot to power the extraction process. So there's really

1217
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 9: clean ways that you can extract raw materials. Nickel does

1218
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 9: have its environmental concerns depending on where it comes from.

1219
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 9: Indonesia does need to clean up its game. It acknowledges

1220
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 9: that it's improving that. That said, global nickel producers are

1221
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 9: now calling for a separate market for sustainable nickel, So

1222
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 9: the free market is actually trying to resolve that by itself,

1223
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 9: and there are huge strides being made.

1224
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: Will we ever get to the point where I plugged

1225
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: my car and I fill it up as fast as

1226
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: I can with petrol?

1227
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 9: Well yes, but actually it's worth pointing out the paradoxically,

1228
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 9: the slowest way to charge car is actually the fastest.

1229
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 9: So for example, I plugged my car in when I

1230
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 9: came home from work tonight. It's just going to be

1231
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 9: sitting on the driveway overnight anyway, it will be fully

1232
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 9: charged in the morning, and that only took a few

1233
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 9: seconds of my time. But there have been some chemistries

1234
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 9: demonstrated recently that have managed to rapid charge from near

1235
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 9: enough empty to full in about five minutes so and

1236
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 9: that's multiple different types of chemistry from multiple different companies.

1237
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 9: So it's coming. But what you'll probably find, and I

1238
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 9: would implore anyone who's never driven an EV before to

1239
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 9: take one out for a teen a stray for a

1240
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 9: couple of days to get a feel of this yourself,

1241
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 9: is that actually you don't need that five minute charge tame.

1242
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 9: The average dwell tame at a UK motorway service station,

1243
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 9: for example, it's twenty five minutes and that's more than

1244
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 9: enough for a rapper charge.

1245
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: Okay, good to talk to you. I could talk to

1246
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: you forever night. Have a good time in the country.

1247
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: Doctor ew And McTurk, a world leading battery electro chemist

1248
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: at Geothermal Bryan's hope Shane Jones has.

1249
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 4: Heard of those.

1250
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: As soon as he hears of the Geothermal Bryan's, he's

1251
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: going to be wetting his pants with excitement. Mike, you

1252
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: might might have seen the news, but Carls Junior I

1253
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: have seen the news. Carls Junior in Australia has gone

1254
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: into liquidation, affecting hundreds of jobs. Yeah, the Australian economic

1255
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: story at the moment is an increasingly fascinating one because

1256
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 2: next Wednesday, the Reserve Bank's got what they're calling the

1257
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 2: decision of a generation. They've got enough life in the

1258
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: economy to potentially put up their interest rates. But in

1259
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: putting up their interest rates, they're probably going to crash

1260
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: the economy into recession. But Carl's Junior might be an

1261
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: individual story. I've not heard of the Carls Junior story

1262
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: this side of the Tasman so hopefully they're own politics Wednesday,

1263
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: Mark my back's a little bit. Steph Mitchell along with

1264
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 2: Jinny Anderson.

1265
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:15,439
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Speaker 2: Can you play Wrapped Around your Another?

1270
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Speaker 25: Can I play it?

1271
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: Because I haven't heard that Blagos. So what we've got

1272
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Speaker 2: here is I reckon. This is a laydown the Christmas gift.

1273
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 2: So this is the police synchronicity and you go a

1274
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: whole haven't we been here before?

1275
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Speaker 4: Yes?

1276
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 6: We had.

1277
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Speaker 2: This is the super Deluxe edition just release it is

1278
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 2: actually I edit it up eighty five tracks, eighty five tracks,

1279
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 2: and it's the songs you thought you knew, versions of

1280
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: the songs, some previously unreleased songs you've never heard and

1281
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: all sorts. Is this rapper and my finger that that's

1282
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: not the song I thought it wasn't unfortunate sounds like rubbing.

1283
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: It's got, for example, oh my God demo, Oh my God,

1284
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: out take, oh my God, OBX version, oh my God,

1285
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: alternate mix. It's got instrumental versions. Synchronicity, demo, synchronicity, outtake, synchronicity,

1286
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: extended version, synchronous, the alternative mix, synchronicity, instrumental. This is

1287
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: so up, my alee.

1288
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 20: One of the things to forget with the live versions

1289
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 20: that are on Therriag've.

1290
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: Got live versions. One of the things I do is

1291
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: when I discover a song, is I then go and

1292
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: download all the other versions of the same song by

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Speaker 2: every other artist and don't look at me, say me

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Speaker 2: and go why, because then I get an interpretation of

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Speaker 2: the song by other artists. And so, for example, not

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Speaker 2: Dark Yet is my latest obsession by Bob. I've downloaded

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of other versions from other people who

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Speaker 2: have done it, and I go, oh, he is that?

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Speaker 2: How do you do it? That's really interesting. That's what

1300
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Speaker 2: makes me such a fascinating complex kind of guy. Or

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Speaker 2: a pain in the ass one or the other nine

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Speaker 2: minutes past as over the Police synchronicity, you got to

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Speaker 2: get it. It's brilliant Movementues Past eight Politics Wednesday, Mark

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Speaker 2: Mitchell and Ginny Anderson are both well, that's goodnity, Mike

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Speaker 2: now Mark, Mark Ye, the pain level that you're feeling

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Speaker 2: at the moment is it's still there because the reportage was,

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Speaker 2: first of all, was Andrew Saville. This is Ginny if

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Speaker 2: you don't know this, this is the rugby of the weekend.

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Speaker 2: So we're at a charity rugby event in Russell andrew Seville,

1310
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Speaker 2: the sports reporters there, Mark's there. The claim from Andrew

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Speaker 2: Saville was you made one tackle, put your back out

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Speaker 2: and walked off.

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Speaker 10: There's half a truth in that. Look, No it wasn't me.

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Speaker 10: He got me mixed up with Jonesy Jonesy without after

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Speaker 10: the first ruck. But my first tinger was with Tane Randall.

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Speaker 10: You always come away feeling that. But now I played

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Speaker 10: about probably twenty twenty five minutes. It was a great game.

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Speaker 10: Huge shout out to Ricky Jane from the Duke of Marlboro.

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Speaker 10: I mean they were the driving force behind this. It

1320
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Speaker 10: was a fantastic weekend for Northland and you know we

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Speaker 10: just want to do it again.

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Speaker 2: Did you pull up all right?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? I did. I mean I was told that if

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Speaker 10: I played, I wasn't allowed to complain about injuries, right,

1325
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Speaker 10: so but yes, no I did. The ribs are a

1326
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Speaker 10: little bit particularly betther than that.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine, Well, are you fit are you? I looked

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Speaker 2: at those people. Let's be honest, back, and I'm not

1329
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Speaker 2: being sexist about that. There's some pretty fat out of

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Speaker 2: fit looking at you. I mean, honestly, there were some

1331
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Speaker 2: people there that shouldn't be doing physical exercise and at

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Speaker 2: a certain age, isn't.

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Speaker 10: It like you can include me at that break? Don't

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Speaker 10: worry about that. I know that I've got a bit

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Speaker 10: of fitness. But look, it was it was actually a

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Speaker 10: really good game. We had quite a few weeks all

1337
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Speaker 10: picks in't there and the crowd seemed to really enjoy it,

1338
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 10: and of course the hometown heroes had a good one,

1339
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Speaker 10: so that was great.

1340
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Speaker 2: Okay, cool, Now serious matters, Costa. He's on his way out.

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Speaker 2: Did you get rid of them at last?

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Speaker 10: Or not? I know, I just think that he's He

1343
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 10: and I had a conversation that will remain confidential and

1344
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Speaker 10: out of respect for him, but he's clearly come out

1345
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Speaker 10: and indicated that he won't be sending seeking an extension

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Speaker 10: on his term which finishes in April next year.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, Ginny or not? Sorry, I can't get your

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Speaker 2: back fair enough or not that cost is going well.

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Speaker 27: I don't think they made a good match. They have

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Speaker 27: different different perspectives on how to resolve Lauren or in

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Speaker 27: New Zealand. I think they worked together as this they could,

1352
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Speaker 27: but fundamentally they come from quite different points of view

1353
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Speaker 27: and so I think it was always going to be

1354
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Speaker 27: a tough match.

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Speaker 2: Would you still defend him as a police commissioner? I

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Speaker 2: mean it wasn't your appointment. It was a dourn slash nash.

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Speaker 2: You came in afterwards. But did you see it at

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Speaker 2: the time as a solid appointment or not.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, he's a smart guy and he had the best

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Speaker 27: interests of New Zealand at heart, and things like refrained

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Speaker 27: that he wanted to see in place would have set

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Speaker 27: the police up for another ten years. For shame that

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Speaker 27: he wasn't able to achieve that right.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me, try and keep this as a political

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Speaker 2: as possible. And this is health and this is the

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Speaker 2: layers and management and all the problems in health at

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Speaker 2: the moment. But what Luxem said on Monday about not

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Speaker 2: having an understanding or getting an understanding of numbers, expenditure

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Speaker 2: line of sight on an astonishing amount of money, can

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Speaker 2: you understand that or explain how the public service gets that?

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Speaker 2: Jerry manned backward and hopeless.

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Speaker 27: First look, I think that they've had to come claim

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Speaker 27: that that's what they've seen is not true, that there's

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Speaker 27: not fourteen layers they're including.

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Speaker 2: Sorry forget the fourteen, twelve, eleven or whatever. It is

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Speaker 2: the fact that it's a mess. It's an indisputable mess.

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Speaker 2: How does it become a mess like that?

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Speaker 27: Well, you had multiple different dhvs across New Zealand that

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Speaker 27: really were a mess. You had different standards of healthcare

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Speaker 27: and different parts of New Zealand because you had a

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Speaker 27: regionally based system, and to bring it under one and

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Speaker 27: try and have consistency no matter where someone gets cancer,

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Speaker 27: they get the same level of treatment. That has to

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Speaker 27: be brought together. And that's what the reforms that we

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Speaker 27: did that were underwaigh and in place. And it's a

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Speaker 27: real shame that some of that work is being unpicked

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Speaker 27: and the problem is they just haven't funded it.

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Speaker 23: If you want to.

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Speaker 27: Talk about what's what's a mess. A mess is putting

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Speaker 27: a hiring freeze on doctors and they're not being enough

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Speaker 27: doctors in HM.

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Speaker 2: That's thirty billion dollars. How much more do you want?

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Speaker 27: We have had record numbers of immigration and most people

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Speaker 27: have come into New Zealand and New Zealand's history over

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Speaker 27: the last year, and we are trying to provide services

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Speaker 27: to more people with the same amount of funding when

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Speaker 27: they're coming in. And this is what's putting massive pressure

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Speaker 27: on our health system. It was just coming to terms

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Speaker 27: worth getting through a global pandemic and then we've got

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Speaker 27: slammed with additional people who require services, and so how

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01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 27: you do that is a difficult solution. Having the budget

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Speaker 27: as not the answer.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll get Mark's out of the story in

1404
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: the moment. Jinny Anderson, Mark Mitchell thirteen past.

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Speaker 4: The make Hosking Breakfast Talks.

1406
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: There'll be sixteen past a Politics Wednesday. Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell,

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01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 2: Mark You's side of the hell story.

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Speaker 10: So, I just think that Labor created a behemoth. I

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01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 10: think Labor's very good at creating bureaucracy with his massive

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01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 10: layers of management and their nastys comes in and has

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Speaker 10: to recalibrate and get services and investment backing up to

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Speaker 10: the front lines. Labor don't know how to deliver the

1413
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 10: services to people. When you look at the caucus, they

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01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 10: don't have anyone that you've actually had to do that

1415
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 10: in real life, so you know this was and now

1416
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 10: we're having to unrevel it all and it's difficult, and right,

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Speaker 10: we're just getting on with it.

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Speaker 2: Jinny, Listen to this. This is lux and working you

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Speaker 2: through the fourteen layers.

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Speaker 22: Listen that a patient it interacts with a team member.

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01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 22: A team member reports the team supervisor, who reports the

1422
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 22: team leader. The team leader reports to the assistant manager.

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01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 22: The assistant manager reports to the manager, who reports the

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Speaker 22: service manager, who then reports.

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Speaker 7: The general manager. The general manager, you might be asking

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Speaker 7: who do they report to?

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Speaker 22: Will they report to the group director of operations, and

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 22: of course they report to the regional director, the national director,

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Speaker 22: eventually the chief of staff and the chief executive, and

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01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 22: of course they report to the chair on the board.

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Speaker 2: Can you defend that?

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Speaker 27: I can certain that they should have funded it in

1433
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Speaker 27: March when they knew it ran out of money, and

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Speaker 27: that would be a better send in giving text cuts

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Speaker 27: to the tobacco lobby.

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Speaker 2: You so you're still arguing that more money is required,

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01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: even when you've got that line that lineup, I.

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Speaker 27: Think you need to look at how the health system works.

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Speaker 27: And if you're going to do it in one minute

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Speaker 27: and question time, then it's a joke. So there's complexities,

1441
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 27: but the point is that there's no doctors in the

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01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 27: Hut Valley because of the cuts, and we have people

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Speaker 27: queuing up for a Cali hul session for need medical attention.

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Speaker 2: That the answer, but isn't the answer to that though,

1445
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 2: Ginny fewer managers and more actual doctors and nurses.

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Speaker 27: Well, let's see how they do with that, because with

1447
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 27: less money and trying to cut services, it's the frontline

1448
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 27: because you need people in place to be able to

1449
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 27: put that support if you want doctors operating, and you're

1450
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 27: going to cuttle that away and cut I think about

1451
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 27: up to two thousand jobs already in health. Let's see

1452
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Speaker 27: how they go. Because I had the prominent bo that

1453
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 27: frontline is not going to be done. But he used

1454
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 27: run an airline. I'm sure you do a great job

1455
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 27: at reforming as Oh.

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Speaker 10: Yes, that's right, that's right. He has running the line

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01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 10: and he understands into the ground three times, and he

1458
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 10: understands the responsibility customers that actually held a deliver and

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01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,560
Speaker 10: he just laid out and articulated very well. Layers and

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01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 10: layers and layers of managers. We'd rather have doctors and

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Speaker 10: nurses on the front lawn.

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Speaker 27: We'll keep them back, go and get the doctors there

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01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 27: because they're always something.

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01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 10: Well and you want to best more money into more managers,

1465
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 10: which is exactly Labour's approach was exactly why we find

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Speaker 10: ourselves in the current position that we do as a country.

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Speaker 2: Quick comment mark on emergency response. I'm ready a report

1468
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Speaker 2: yesterday and I can't for the life and we remember

1469
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 2: what it was called. But back when, when late twenty

1470
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 2: fourteen they were going to have some sort of group

1471
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Speaker 2: Victoria and Australia's got it, they never got around to it.

1472
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 2: Local agencies didn't want to share information. The upshot is

1473
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: that they are claiming in Hawk's Bay that have Gabriel

1474
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 2: happened again, there would be no difference in response because

1475
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 2: basically emergency response can't get their act together. Is that true?

1476
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 10: No, I don't agree with that. Since I've been in

1477
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 10: Ministers in the last seven months, I've had four local

1478
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 10: states of emergency. We've had we've had floods, we've had fires,

1479
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 10: we've had earthquakes, we've had space weather, we've had CrowdStrike,

1480
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 10: and no one's waiting. I received a report from Sigurary

1481
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 10: Matter pry in terms of the work that we need

1482
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 10: to do to make our system more resilient. But no

1483
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 10: one's waiting for that. And I've been on the ground

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Speaker 10: every single one of those and the response has been outstanding.

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01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 10: So no, We've got amazing people that do this work.

1486
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 10: We need to get the legislation done and that will

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Speaker 10: codefine support that the entire ecosystem in terms of how

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01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 10: we respond. But there's been really good progress made over

1489
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Speaker 10: the last seven months, certainly, you know That's what I'm

1490
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 10: sing and seen, right from the mayors and the chief

1491
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Speaker 10: executives right through the whole emergency management sort of sector.

1492
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 10: Everyone is working really well together, all right.

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Speaker 2: Encouraging to hear Marke appreciate time, Jinny Anderson appreciate yours

1494
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Speaker 2: as well. Politics Wednesday, eight twenty.

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Speaker 4: One, Costing Breakfast with Jaguar. Use to.

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Speaker 2: Jaguar about to make history all over again. Since nineteen

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Speaker 2: thirty five, Jaguar have been the epitome of British innovation

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Speaker 2: and luxury and now they're embracing the future with an

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Speaker 2: all electric vision and before they do, there's time to

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Speaker 2: own a piece of the legendary lineup. So what you

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Speaker 2: do is imagine yourself in the driver's seat of a Jag.

1502
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Speaker 2: Every detail from the pairer, of the engine, of the

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Speaker 2: sleect line speaks of performance and prestige. They're not just

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Speaker 2: vehicles Jaguars, of course, they're a testament to exceptional heritage. Basically,

1505
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 2: if you've ever dreamed of driving a Jag, and most

1506
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 2: of us have, might have started with the E type

1507
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: back to the mark to all of that. This is

1508
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 2: your last chance to own a piece of automotive history

1509
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: with an exclusive finance offer too good to miss, zero

1510
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 2: percent interest for up to twenty four months, third of

1511
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 2: the price upfront, and two more easy payments down the line.

1512
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: So it's your chance to be part of Jaguar's legacy,

1513
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: supported by their top notch service and retailer network. The

1514
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 2: offerers extended to the end of September September thirty or

1515
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 2: while stocks last. They're not going quietly into the future Jaguar.

1516
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 2: They are leading the charge to visit your local retailer today,

1517
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 2: make history yours, and get behind the wheel of a

1518
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: brand new Jaguar. Cosking Mike Ginny would have more credibility

1519
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 2: if she knew when to hit the mat sometimes rather

1520
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 2: than argue the inarguable. I think health care like everyone.

1521
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 2: I like health care like everybody, but trying to defend

1522
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 2: the health bureaucracy was folly. I think there's an element

1523
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: of truth to that. We've had two of those this morning.

1524
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 2: We had the climate change guy earlier on and Ginny

1525
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 2: arguing that somehow thirty billion dollars isn't enough and if

1526
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 2: we just if we just just have a little bit more,

1527
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 2: somehow it's And she's right, I mean, there's no doctor

1528
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 2: overnight and darka bill. It's not good enough. But I

1529
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: just think, and I'm not sure why this is an

1530
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 2: even in complex argument, I just think if you had

1531
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 2: a look at some of that management that Chrystalla Luxen

1532
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 2: so eloquently outlined and got rid of a few of those,

1533
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 2: took that money and put it into a doctor and

1534
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 2: a nurse and some syringes and some bandages, you might

1535
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 2: actually be able to solve the problem. Mike discussing comment

1536
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,799
Speaker 2: from Ginny Anderson regarding lux An airline into the ground

1537
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 2: one demonstrably false. Ye, We're just I know he didn't

1538
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: run it into the ground three times. In fact, I

1539
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 2: don't think he ran into the ground once. To be

1540
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 2: perfectly honest with you. So I'm wondering if an apology

1541
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: is going to be coming there one demonstrably false and

1542
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 2: too extremely off color of mark give an Air New

1543
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: Zealand's history, feel for the families and friend of the erabis.

1544
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: I think that you text are taking that a little

1545
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 2: bit too far. But I don't think you can blame

1546
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 2: the financial which is what she was talking about the

1547
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 2: financial problems of Air New Zealand on Christopher luxem because

1548
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think they had

1549
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 2: any physical troubles under his tutelage, but we are confirming

1550
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 2: that just to just to make sure quick praise. I

1551
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 2: talked about paper plus earlier, which I mean, I'm worried

1552
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 2: about the whole economy at the moment. I'm worried about

1553
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 2: everyone is doing business, opening a door and actually trying

1554
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 2: to turn them down. At the wine shop yesterday, probably

1555
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 2: shouldn't actually tell you the story because I did actually

1556
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 2: to cover myself off. I did say to Katie, I said,

1557
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 2: I'm now off to the wine shop, and I thought

1558
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 2: that was the best thing I could do, because normally

1559
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 2: when I try and sneak it in the door, it

1560
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 2: goes badly for me. So I said, I'm off to

1561
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 2: the wine shop, and I had two bottles that I

1562
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: was able to pick up, and to her credit, and

1563
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 2: this is why I love it so deeply, she goes, oh,

1564
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: two bottles, my ass. What normally happens is that old

1565
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 2: Sebastian just goes, right, try this, take one of those.

1566
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: I've only got one of those. There's one in the

1567
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 2: cupboard just for you. And you come home with more

1568
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: wine than you know what to do with. All of

1569
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: which is true. And so yesterday the point of the

1570
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 2: story was Sebastian's telling me that business a bit type

1571
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: based on the restaurant. You know, they don't order as

1572
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 2: much as they are, which goes to what we were

1573
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: talking about in hospitality. But anyway, yesterday he goes, have

1574
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: you tried this? And he opened a bottle, and we

1575
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 2: went upstairs to the special taste the wine upstairs place,

1576
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: and we swirled and we sniffed, and I went, oh,

1577
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 2: it's quite nice. I said, okay, because you opened that

1578
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 2: bottling in about half a dozen and he said, thank

1579
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 2: you very much. Now that's the first time I've told

1580
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: y publicly, including at home. So I'm hoping I'll be

1581
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 2: able to get in the door about ten minutes past nine.

1582
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues the

1583
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: Mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, doing real estate

1584
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: differently since nineteen seventy three.

1585
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 2: News tog said, be okay, I'll be honest. The reason

1586
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,560
Speaker 2: I told you the wine story before the news is

1587
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 2: I was anticipating my wife being in an appointment at

1588
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: eight o'clock and it wasn't true. It was eight thirty,

1589
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: so she was still there tuned in at the time

1590
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 2: of the story.

1591
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 26: Totally bustard, totally busted. When you said the two of

1592
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 26: you went upstairs and swirled.

1593
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, opened up.

1594
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 20: I'm just.

1595
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 25: For some reason, I'm picturing some kind of gramophone goes on. No,

1596
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 25: so one of you, I don't know which one is

1597
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 25: it in a sort of a ball gown's dancing dancing.

1598
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: There's no dancing.

1599
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 20: There wasn't that kind of swirling.

1600
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: No, there wasn't text OMG, exclamation marks. I didn't know

1601
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 2: this to exclamation marks and upstairs wine tasting question mark,

1602
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 2: exclamation mark bracket w TF exclamation mark question mark? I

1603
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 2: text back a swear word. Thought you'd be in by now.

1604
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 4: Whoops.

1605
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 2: Also, I think you should be honest about how many

1606
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 2: bottles of wine you actually buy. You made it sound

1607
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: like two or three.

1608
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 20: When you were when you said two or three, you

1609
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 20: men cases right.

1610
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: Thereabouts twenty two to nine International correspondence with ends and

1611
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: Eye Insurance, Peace of mind for New Zealand business. Great,

1612
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 2: your bouncy plants. Very good morning to you.

1613
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 4: Good morning directs.

1614
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 19: Get out of this or not, we'll find out this morning.

1615
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 19: This is, of course, the regional airline that started flying

1616
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 19: save aircraft between regional routes and then decided some bright

1617
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 19: spark on the board decided, well why don't we take

1618
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 19: on Conduce and Virgin and starts flying at least seven

1619
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 19: to three sevens but between Sydney Melbourne, Melbourne, Brisbane, Brisbane

1620
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 19: Sydney and that hasn't ended well. They went into administration yesterday.

1621
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 19: Whether they completely fall over like BONDSA Airlines did a

1622
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 19: couple of months back, is yet to be seen. We'll

1623
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 19: find out this morning. They're going to make a statement

1624
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 19: of the Stock Exchange before it opens on the East

1625
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 19: Coast of Australia. Found it in two thousand and two,

1626
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 19: and then in March twenty twenty one started flying between

1627
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 19: the capital cities. Now the Prime Ministers had a crack

1628
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 19: at them and said, one of the things that I

1629
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 19: expressed concern about was that REX moved away from their

1630
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 19: traditional role of being a regional airline into flights between

1631
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 19: Sydney and Melbourne. Now, what do you think happens when

1632
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 19: an upstart like Rex, who aren't a bad airline by

1633
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 19: the way, start flying those major routes. Well, the big boys,

1634
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 19: the big boys, Countesson and Virgin go hang in a minute.

1635
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 19: So they put on more capacity, dropped the flight costs,

1636
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 19: as you point out, and suddenly it all turns to

1637
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 19: custard for Rex. It's a pity because regional Australia very expensive.

1638
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 19: I'm not sure about New Zealand these days, but to

1639
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 19: fly between say, you know, Sydney and Wogga, or Melbourne

1640
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 19: and mill Dura, or Brisbane and Townsville, it's extremely expensive

1641
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 19: and so regional people cop it in the neck.

1642
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 2: So what they also runs the part of Academy and

1643
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: Wogga and bell Rat. They've got a propeller maintenance organization,

1644
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 2: they've got a stake and jet Express they're a fly

1645
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 2: and fly out charter operator for mines and stuff. Does

1646
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 2: all of that go under as well or we still

1647
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: don't know, and if it does, how big an issue

1648
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 2: is that we won't know?

1649
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 19: It is a huge issue if it happens. But what

1650
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 19: we're what everyone is hoping, is that they will just

1651
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 19: draw up the drawbridge, go back to their traditional roots

1652
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 19: in Region Australia and become a slim down airline. In

1653
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 19: the background of all this might there's been a board

1654
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 19: a ruction, the chairman's been overthrown, the CEO has gone,

1655
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 19: someone else has come in. So it's all a bit

1656
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 19: of a message.

1657
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 2: So that was my next question. How much of it's

1658
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 2: an individual story versus just Australia doesn't have room for

1659
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 2: that many airlines.

1660
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 19: I don't think Stralia has that room for that many airlines.

1661
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 19: I mean this is history. I mean Hanseid fell over.

1662
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 19: You've had a bunch of budget airlines come and go

1663
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 19: Bonds it was the latest. You had Tiger airlines before that.

1664
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 19: The population's not big enough and the big airlines, as

1665
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 19: in Contison, Virgin and Jetstar are just too big for

1666
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 19: a smaller airline to compete against.

1667
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 2: Now Dunton's off to Israel. That'll put the heat on elbow,

1668
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 2: won't it?

1669
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 28: It will?

1670
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 19: He's there now. He's got a three day trip Monday

1671
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 19: through Thursday, or four days that is. I guess it'll

1672
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,759
Speaker 19: involve him meeting hostages that were impacted by that attack.

1673
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 19: On the seventh of October. He also is going to

1674
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 19: eat Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz and the Israeli President

1675
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 19: is Isaac Urzok, and he's going to go this is

1676
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 19: the important point about this, to the kibbutzas that have

1677
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 19: come under Hama's fire and to where that music festival

1678
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 19: took place. Why is that important for now? But easy, Well,

1679
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 19: the Prime Minister has not been there at all. He

1680
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 19: sent his Foreign Minister Penny Wong. She went to none

1681
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 19: of those sites at all. And I think what's going

1682
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 19: on here is that Peter Dutton is showing in the

1683
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,879
Speaker 19: lead up to the election that there is a difference

1684
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 19: in policy between the Coalition and the Labor Party. The

1685
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 19: Labor Party is desperate to hang on to a number

1686
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 19: of inner city seats in Melbourne and Sydney where there

1687
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 19: is a large Muslim population and a very large pro

1688
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 19: Palestinian group of voters. There's even that talk of a

1689
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 19: Muslim Votes party being started somewhere like the Teals in

1690
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 19: maybe Sydney and Melbourne. So this is quite a clever

1691
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 19: move by Peter Dutton. I don't want it to be

1692
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 19: seen that he has been completely politically astute about this.

1693
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 19: He's going there obviously for the reasons that he is

1694
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 19: concerned about what happened on the seventh.

1695
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: We won a gold this morning, Steve in what sevens?

1696
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 19: Are well done? Men or women?

1697
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 2: Are the women? Are the men bombed? Unfortunately? We should

1698
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,640
Speaker 2: have won two golds. Men bombed the women and they

1699
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 2: played Canada in the final. They should have played Australia,

1700
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 2: but Australia got beaten by Canada, which was a major

1701
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 2: boil over. So that's an.

1702
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 19: Australia fell apart. That was very sad for those girls.

1703
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 19: They were playing extremely well. We're third on the medal

1704
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 19: Telly over World, did you know that?

1705
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 23: Yeah?

1706
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 2: Is it scene? I saw the ratings the other day.

1707
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 2: Ten plus million people have tuned in, so she's a smash.

1708
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 19: Oh yeah, people are really Look I would like the

1709
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 19: Olympics to last for a week, not two weeks, because

1710
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 19: we can't run, we can't jump, we're no good at

1711
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 19: all of that other stuff that happens like marathons and

1712
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 19: all that we should just have a swimming event and

1713
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 19: then I'd be a very happy man. Skadian McKee and

1714
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 19: one one hundred meter breast straight. This morning, just quickly,

1715
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 19: Anika Wells, the Federal Sports Minister, went over to France.

1716
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 19: She was there for the opening ceremony and then left,

1717
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 19: so she didn't watch any of the events at all,

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01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 19: but she has this is one of the most stupid

1719
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 19: comments I've ever and when asked if she was disappointed

1720
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 19: that sports like swimming have two few female coaches, she

1721
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,480
Speaker 19: said that she's considering bringing in quotas they have more female.

1722
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 2: Coaches than God.

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01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 19: So the Australian swimming team. Can I point out the

1724
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 19: sports minister the Dean Boxel, who coaches the two fastest

1725
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 19: women in the world and is considered the best swimming

1726
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 19: coach on the planet, is a man? I mean? Is

1727
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 19: that a problem?

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01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 2: All right?

1729
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 29: Mate?

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01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: Go well, we'll catch up next week's toe Price out

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01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: of Australia for another Wednesday morning. Let's get to the

1732
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 2: games and just a couple of a couple of moments

1733
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 2: and talk to a gold medal of sixteen to two

1734
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 2: the make hockey racist thirteen minutes away from the gold

1735
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: medal is celebrating. So nineteen twelve it was in the

1736
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 2: end the gold middle is ours back to back Olympic golds.

1737
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 2: Send off for a couple of the greats of course

1738
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 2: Push and Woodman Wickliffe. He is on her way to

1739
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,520
Speaker 2: retirement along with Tyler King. Tyler King as well this morning.

1740
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 23: More than Mike.

1741
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 21: How's it going very well?

1742
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 2: Is the medal still around your neck?

1743
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 29: The metal storm?

1744
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 24: I make the jersey and the shorts and.

1745
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 2: The socks are still onto fantastic. What's the metal look like?

1746
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 11: Oh?

1747
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 2: It is beautiful.

1748
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 29: It's kind of like it's got the Goddess mikey on

1749
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 29: it gold plated, and then you turn it around and

1750
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 29: it's got a piece of the Eiffel Tower.

1751
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 2: That's brilliant, isn't it?

1752
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 6: Hey?

1753
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 2: I watched the start of the game and you looked

1754
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,560
Speaker 2: so dominant. I thought this is going to be a

1755
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: thrashing and then they came back at you. How did

1756
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 2: it feel for you?

1757
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 29: But we didn't help ourselves.

1758
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 24: I was giving the yellow car.

1759
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 29: So it's always a hard when you're up against quality sides.

1760
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 29: But we're practicing training going down to slix and we

1761
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 29: held them out long enough just for them only to

1762
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 29: secure one try and then we're back to our full compliment.

1763
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 29: And then we knew it was only our mistakes that

1764
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,639
Speaker 29: were keeping them in that game. So if we tied

1765
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 29: it up our own eras and to struck hard on attack,

1766
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 29: made sure we stayed in our threes, and then on defenses,

1767
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 29: keep coming forward and keep applying pressure. We knew will

1768
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 29: get the job done, and that.

1769
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 23: What we did.

1770
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 2: Were you pleased it was Canada not Australia or it didn't.

1771
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 29: Matter, It didn't matter who we were going to face.

1772
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 29: We knew that we were going to give it everything

1773
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 29: that we had, and it ended up being Canada. They

1774
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 29: played amazing. They had an incredible quarter final I think

1775
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 29: it was against France, being in a home team on

1776
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 29: home soil, and then they went in to the job

1777
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 29: against when it counted against Australia. So all the teams

1778
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 29: in the circuit are amazing, and you know, you just

1779
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 29: got to show up when it counts, and we were

1780
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 29: able to do that.

1781
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 2: How was the pressure leading and given the expectation you

1782
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 2: were supposed to win a medal if not gold, Yeah.

1783
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 29: There's always going to be pressure, and we knew that

1784
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 29: was there and we addressed it so early on and

1785
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 29: then at the end of the day, we.

1786
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 24: Just said, we just need to focus on ourselves and

1787
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 24: that's what we did.

1788
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 29: And I think I'm just so proud of the performances

1789
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 29: that we put in as a team from day one

1790
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 29: all the way through to the final, because if I

1791
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,799
Speaker 29: look back to Tokyo, that gold medal moment was incredible,

1792
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 29: but we never hit our full potential. Some of those

1793
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 29: games were absolutely scrappy. You know, we had the whole

1794
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 29: entire country on the edge of the seat when we

1795
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 29: played the semi final against Fiji in overtime. But this tournament,

1796
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 29: this Olympics, everything came together. We found our flow and

1797
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 29: we just went out there and played the brand of

1798
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 29: footy that I know.

1799
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: I knew we will keep a bull of fantastic. Do

1800
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 2: you want to reconsider retiring?

1801
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 29: Nope, I am good. I've had my time in this

1802
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 29: black jersey, and you know, I've grown up in this

1803
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 29: in this team, in this environment. I've been here since

1804
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 29: I was seventeen. For the last thirteen years, this has

1805
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 29: been a big and huge part of my life. It's

1806
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 29: going to be definitely we'd leaving it behind.

1807
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 24: But I know, I know it's time.

1808
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 29: Physically I probably could, you know, play on for another

1809
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 29: couple of years, but there's just this feeling you get

1810
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,679
Speaker 29: and it's my time to you know, pass this jersey

1811
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 29: on the number seven, which I've been in sered by

1812
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 29: debut back in twenty twelve. It's time to pass it

1813
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 29: on for someone else. Although I do trick with some

1814
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 29: of the girls that now now you can't ever sorry

1815
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 29: they're retiring it.

1816
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 2: Warmer's congratulations, go well, lovely to talk to you. Appreciate

1817
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 2: it very much.

1818
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 29: Thank you so much. Thank you for your supporting all

1819
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 29: of our country getting behind us. This means a lot.

1820
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 2: Fantastic Tyler, go well. Tyler King out of Paris, speaking

1821
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 2: of people who have retired. Samuel Whitelocke, first word from

1822
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 2: him tomorrow on the program after eight o'clock. Excuse me,

1823
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 2: so look forward to catch up nine away from nine the.

1824
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 4: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks.

1825
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 2: There'd be so the Gimmy Anderson claimed that Crystal Lackson

1826
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 2: might have driven in New Zealand into the ground three

1827
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 2: times is already established as not true, but some facts.

1828
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 2: He came to the airline twenty thirteen as CEO. Left

1829
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen before Luction's first full year net profit

1830
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 2: was seventy one million. Under Luxeon had peaked at four

1831
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 2: to sixty three million close to four hundred million in

1832
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 2: each of the next two years. Under Luckson's tenure, the

1833
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 2: value in New Zealand grew by two hundred and twenty

1834
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 2: four percent, and one point seven billion was paid to shareholders,

1835
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 2: including nine hundred and fifteen million dollars to the government.

1836
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 2: In New Zealand share price more than doubled under Luxe.

1837
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 10: And so.

1838
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 2: He might know what he's talking about. Ginny five minutes

1839
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 2: away from nine.

1840
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 4: Trending now with chemist ware House stop paying too much?

1841
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 28: Right.

1842
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 2: So We've got a blow called Roger who lives in

1843
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 2: Howick and he was listening to the show yesterday. Loves

1844
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 2: his motorsport like me, and so what he did, and

1845
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 2: God bless him for doing it. He's put together what

1846
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 2: he calls a country rock composition done with AI and

1847
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 2: he's called it Mike's fast Lane.

1848
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 4: Skim on me a for.

1849
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 28: So Sharp Black Colty, Dreams of Airfang fun speeding on

1850
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 28: lad distance shows eights e car's hole put in his

1851
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 28: heart engine troll tracks of Glory, Crypto Bride, chasing laughs, thuday.

1852
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 23: And kidding me.

1853
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 28: This is been testing my hosting sixteed racing. So he

1854
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 28: needs engine roll dreams at nine in his world everythings right?

1855
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 2: How do you rate this five and a half out

1856
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 2: of ten?

1857
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 19: I know I see it.

1858
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 20: It's way too high.

1859
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 2: So did Sammy gives a five and a half out

1860
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: of ten? What do you give it?

1861
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 20: Minus three?

1862
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 2: This is brilliant?

1863
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 4: I give a nine.

1864
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 23: Rac Yeah, so.

1865
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 26: They confirmed to what Sam and I s, because we

1866
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 26: all know you've got no tasting music.

1867
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 2: In his world everything and that's a la generated So

1868
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 2: if he just put the woods in, he would have

1869
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 2: gone Mike Hosking Racing cars right, Mike Hosking racing car song?

1870
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? Do you reckon? He did that? Or

1871
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 2: do you did more? I reckon? He just put Mike

1872
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 2: Hosking race car song? How good is that? Play it

1873
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 2: one more time? Blen go right from the start.

1874
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 4: Here we go here we got.

1875
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 28: Engine roll tracks of Glory Crypto Bride, she said, laughs,

1876
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 28: lyrics that.

1877
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 4: It's the downfall.

1878
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 20: We're witnessing it as it happens.

1879
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 2: Holy If that's actually really good text, I give it ten. Mike,

1880
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 2: she is terry. Next text, it's brilliant.

1881
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 20: Is there another radio station that we can just shove

1882
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 20: all these people over to?

1883
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 2: Belt? Definitely number one on the chants, Mike brilliant, fantastic

1884
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 2: Mike another gold medal, Mike Tin very very good, so goes.

1885
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 2: I know when I said, this is the song of summer,

1886
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: by the way, for the Christmas this year, this is

1887
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 2: the song of summer. Anyway back tomorrow, Happy Days.

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1889
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,800
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1890
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