1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Your source of freaking news, challenging opinion and honored backs. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate Altogether Better 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: across residential, commercial, and rural news talks head beat, Monny, 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: and welcome. 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: Today one of the investment heavyweights here for the big summit. 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: What have they made of our message? Do they have 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: a checkbook? Reading to go? We've got some very good 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: news for you on Joe Parker overnight as well the 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: Health MINISTROMD that's growing procurement scandal, David seymore on more 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: maraification and why oh why aren't they actually doing something 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: about it? Tim O Katy after right, Murray Olds and 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 2: Richard Arnold are our globalists, Posking Friday morning, Welcome to 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: at seven past six. So I suppose technically it is 14 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: only halfway through, I mean today, still to go. But 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: this investment summit it looked good to me day one. 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: There seems no doubt that one a lot of people 17 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: with a lot of money turned up, and two some 18 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: of them spoke of their desire to bid for projects. 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: Now the Prime Minister, who needs some runs on the board, 20 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: of course, I think, has some out of this, and 21 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: he hasn't even left for India. His pitch that we 22 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: are a shelter from the storm. That was smart. He 23 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: looked like he'd done this before. Perhaps we are seeing 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: a little bit of what all those other delegates on 25 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: the international sojourn see. This is what he does well. 26 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 2: He networks, he presses flesh, He pumps ideas. He has 27 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: a plan, nothing specific, as in sign on the dotted 28 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: line writer check here and now will come out of this, 29 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: of course, But already you can see, given the thing 30 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: is over, subscribe that the Prime Minister is right. The 31 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: world is ash with cash and they are keen to invest. 32 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: Six trillion is a stunning amount of money. And if 33 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: only a small chunk of it comes our way, and 34 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: if only a tiny slice build some roads or future 35 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: proof some infrastructure, this will have been well worth it. Obviously, 36 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: eventually the proof will be in the pudding. Someone needs 37 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: a signing ceremony, and may be a spade or two 38 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: to be stuck in the ground. But I got the sense, 39 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: as a frustrated punter, observer, voter, whatever, that it's these 40 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: sort of days and these sort of events that make 41 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: us look like we might be on some sort of 42 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: path back that we looked a little bit professional and 43 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: interested that we might just have some decent adults about 44 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: the place looking to put our stake in the global 45 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: game and bring the world so long locked out of 46 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: this place back into the room. Luxen leaves this and 47 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: can come back with something tangible next week from India, 48 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: then it may well be we feel things are starting 49 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: to roll. As I've said many many times, it is 50 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: hard to overstate the economic carnage they were handed, and 51 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: it's still far from over. I mean, the immigration numbers 52 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: just yesterday reminded us of this. No, they're not leaving 53 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: in the numbers they once did, but they are still leaving, 54 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: and the arrivals are slowing as well. Fewer people means 55 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: less economic activity. But you fix all that with reputation, 56 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: a reputation of a rock star, of a success story, 57 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: of a go getter. Yesterday and hopefully today look like 58 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: they are part of that bigger success story. 59 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: News of the world. 60 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: In ninety seconds, the Americans still on their way for 61 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: a word with the Russians on the war. 62 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: Now. 63 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: The Russians are pointing out that even if a ceasefire 64 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: has agreed, it ain't over. 65 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: They should just like to good they my gratitude to 66 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: President Trump for trying to settle the situation, and Ukraine 67 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: has devoted a lot of attention to it. Since we 68 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: all have our own business to attend to. 69 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: That's we all talk with Andrew about the shortly. But 70 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: the Americans, amidst the walls and the tariffs, which are 71 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: also will also have the issue at the moment of 72 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: running out of money and the government grinding too a 73 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: halt again, so the scrap is on to get the votes, 74 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: and one of those votes belongs to Corey Booker. 75 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: I'm not talking strategy right now. 76 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm just talking about the outreach. 77 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 5: I cannot support giving them a license to destroy nor 78 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 5: that surrenders or capitulates what I swore in North to do, 79 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 5: which is uph all the Constitution. 80 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: So I think there's a no then to britainwick Kiyostama 81 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: as fast becoming my new political hero. He's dozingly in Ags. 82 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 6: I'm bringing management of the NHS back into democratic control 83 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 6: by abolishing the arms length body NHS England. That will 84 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 6: put the NHS back at the heart of government where 85 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 6: it belongs. 86 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: The Health Secretary says, yeah, baby. 87 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 6: There are more than twice as many staff as when 88 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 6: the NHS delivered the short waiting times and the highest 89 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 6: patient satisfaction in history. 90 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: Even a former health secretary who's a Tory says, yeah, baby. 91 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: Ish, if this means we start to regulate with a 92 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: much lighter touch in the way we do with schools, 93 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: for example, I am cautiously optimistic that this is a 94 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: positive step. 95 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: Hard to overstate that move, or understate the mover, or 96 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. It's a major move, is 97 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say. Another labor leader, by the way, 98 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: this one in Australia, has waded into the an influencer 99 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: grabbed a wombat debate. 100 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 7: And you know, I suggest to this so called influencer, 101 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 7: maybe she might try some other Australian animals. Take a 102 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 7: baby crocodile from its mother and see how you go there? 103 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: Is he getting worse? Finally, if you haven't heard about 104 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: Nijar too, you should or will. It came out on 105 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: Chinese New Year back in January. It's a movie out 106 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: of China. Story is a village nobody turns into a 107 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: Chinese mythology here. I mean, hoppen, we heard that one before. 108 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: I'm sure George Colney has played that role twice. So 109 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: far it's earned over two billion, and that's just in China. 110 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: So compare that to Inside Out two, which is the 111 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: second biggest animated film, that's only in one point seven 112 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: billion over the whole world. Anyway, overall it makes it's 113 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: the sixth most profitable film ever made, only ten million 114 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: behind Star Wars. The Force Awakens the fifth Force awakens 115 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: in fifth. It's in fifth, So the Force Awakens is 116 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: in fifth. Well, there's the Force Awakens in Star Wars prequent, 117 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: sequid and that at all. Here's the world in ninety seconds. 118 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: You don't want to trust me on a Friday. Believe me, 119 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 2: I'm barely here. It's this teriff thing has got me worried, 120 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: perno ricard. It's the drinks today, perno ricard, contro Campari. 121 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: All major companies are all sunk like a stone because 122 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: Donald got on the truth social and talked about two 123 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: hundred percent tariffs. So there's that. Meantime, the Germans have announced, 124 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: in fact, the the central Bank president said, look this 125 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: goes on, Germany's going to sink into recession. So that's 126 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: how bad that is. Thirteen past six. 127 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on aheard radio 128 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: card by News Talks Evy. 129 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: Donna Tella Versachi's announced overnight she's stepping down as chief 130 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: creative officer of Vasarchi. She's been there thirty years after 131 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: I stepped in up for a brother got gunned down 132 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: in Miami back in the ninety sixteen past six from 133 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: JMI Weil Hendrew kellerho welcome down Friday. We made it. 134 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: We made it to Friday. 135 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 8: Monst we did. 136 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: And at thirty two thy five hundred gain. It's it 137 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: ain't the heavy old days, is it. 138 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 9: No, no, no, this is migration. We got the latest 139 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 9: DARTA on the comings and goings yesterday, So migration and 140 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 9: tourism data for January. Looking at the migration data, this 141 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 9: is provisional. Remember we've always got to put that caveat 142 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 9: on it that subjects continue to revision. But yes, to 143 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 9: the end of January, an annual gain of thirty two 144 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 9: and a half thousand people, well down on the let's 145 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 9: call it one hundred and twenty two thousand. That was 146 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 9: a twelve month number two January twenty four. But that trend, 147 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 9: it's been well noted. It's reasonably consistent. But we really 148 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 9: have come off the boil, haven't we. So migration arrivals, 149 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 9: migration departures, the net difference is the permanent long term 150 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 9: migration number. You've got one hundred and twenty three thousand 151 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 9: mipant departures in that twelve month. That's the highest on record. 152 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 9: And you can't do these numbers without noting that the 153 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 9: peak in October twenty three was one hundred and thirty 154 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 9: five and a half thousand when it was really running hot. 155 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 9: Let's just put some context around this bike, because you know, 156 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 9: I love doing that. Long term average for January years 157 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 9: before COVID was a net migration gain of twenty seven thousand, 158 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 9: So we're heading back to gains consistent with the average 159 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 9: long term population gain from migration. We always get a 160 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 9: breakdown a composition for the January twenty five year outside 161 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 9: of returning New Zealand as the overwhelming key contributor to 162 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 9: migration as arrivals from India or Indian citizens almost twenty 163 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 9: six thousand in the last twelve months. 164 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 4: Of course, Lation's going there next. 165 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 9: Week, followed by arrivals from China and the Philippines on 166 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 9: a monthly basis. Bring it down to monthly provisional estimate 167 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 9: three thousand and six hundred seasonally, just that you get 168 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 9: about twenty four hundred, that number will be revised. But 169 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 9: you do have to make the observation, Mike, that the 170 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 9: downward trend I think, you know, it's definitely stalled, it's stabilizing. 171 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 9: I think the risk that we head into negative permanent 172 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 9: long term migration is definitely diminishing. But you're obviously going 173 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 9: to have I think you can vary safety and for 174 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 9: you've got a softening of economic support from net migration. 175 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 9: You know, the impacts on economic growth when compared to 176 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 9: when we were running those crazy totals, I mean one 177 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 9: hundred and twenty hundred and thirty thousand a lot less 178 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 9: so produced demand, less pressure on housing, tourism numbers, Mike, 179 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 9: they will yeah, look yeah but they're going they are 180 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 9: moving here. 181 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: But made it's been six years. 182 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 9: Well yeah it has, but you know it's mainland. Good 183 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 9: things take time there, Mike. Look, look the magic numbers 184 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 9: four million for the year. I think, what are we 185 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 9: ad at the moment? We're at three million, three hundred 186 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 9: and fifty eight thousand. It is the highest numbers as 187 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 9: much twenty twenty we're not there yet. 188 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: They are spending. 189 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 4: They're spending. 190 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 9: Well, there's no impact seeming impact from the New Zealand 191 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 9: International Visitor Leve. You remember they that came in. 192 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 10: Correct. 193 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't seem to be. 194 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 9: It doesn't seem to be impacting people that these guys 195 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 9: are spending though. I mean you think about it. 196 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 4: You've got the. 197 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 9: US and the bricks coming in and their dollars worth 198 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 9: a lot more than the New Zealand pesos so and 199 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 9: we're also seeing a big lift in the number of 200 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 9: people arriving in christ Church and Queenstown before planes are 201 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 9: going back and then. 202 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: It's coming into the country. Are we going to christ 203 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 2: Juchs and Queenstown as well? By the way, this fortunately 204 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: they've got about twenty four hours to solve their problem. 205 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: But this, this shutdown thing is the usual shambles. Yeah, 206 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: but that's fairly. 207 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 9: It's a symptomatic of everything that seems to be happening 208 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 9: in the US at the moment, doesn't it. 209 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 11: See Over the next. 210 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 9: Twenty four hours, we're going to this talk of a 211 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 9: government US government shut down is going to rise to 212 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 9: a crescendo. 213 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 11: Mike. 214 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 9: Technically they have got to do something by the fourteenth 215 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 9: of March, which is that'll be today, So they need 216 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 9: to pass the legislation. Obviously before Monday, you can see 217 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 9: parts of the US government shut down. The thing we've 218 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 9: got to note yet, has happened before. Happened in two thousand. 219 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 9: I mean, it doesn't happen a lot, but it does happen. 220 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 9: The last time is twenty eighteen, lasted almost a month. 221 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 9: So Republicans need to bring a spending bill to the Senate. 222 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 9: It's already been passed in the House of Representative. This 223 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 9: bill could be blocked by Democrats in the House. Just 224 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 9: to remind it, you've got fifty three Republican seats, You've 225 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 9: got forty seven Democrats an independent. This bill needs sixty 226 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 9: votes to avoid procedural obstacles. Democrats have a counterplan to 227 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 9: keep the government operating till April. Early April. One Republican 228 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 9: senator has already indicated he would vote against it. Where 229 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 9: you're going to have the usual brinkmanship, finger pointing, more uncertainty. 230 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 9: Yet the interesting thing here, Mike is if it has 231 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 9: to go back to the House, if they can't make 232 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 9: a decision, they've all gone home. 233 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: They are not there. 234 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 9: So this thing has got to happen. 235 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, are otherwise there's a very good times now, wonderfulst. 236 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 9: Numbers, So the Americans not enjoying the session today. The 237 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 9: Dow Jones is down five hundred and seventy six points. 238 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 9: It's one point three nine percent forty thousand, seven hundred 239 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 9: and seventy seven. The S and P five hundred is 240 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 9: now flirting with a ten percent four from the high 241 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 9: in February, which is a technically a correction. It's down 242 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 9: sixty four points, which is one point one five percent 243 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 9: five to five three five, and the Nasdaq is down 244 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 9: over two percent to another week session for the Nasdaq 245 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 9: three hundred and eighty three points seventeen thousand, two hundred 246 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 9: and sixty seven overnight, the forty one hundred barely changed, 247 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 9: It was only up one point. The Nika also had 248 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 9: a fairly zound points zero eight percent three six seven nine. 249 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 9: Oh Shanghai Composite lost point three nine percent three three 250 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 9: five eight. The Aussie's lost just under half a percent 251 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 9: seven seven four nine. 252 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: The close in their sex two hundred. 253 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 9: The Insects fifty lost a third of a percent forty 254 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 9: points twelve thy twelve hundred and nine Kiwi against the 255 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 9: US on the wholesale markets point five seven one oh 256 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 9: point nine oh seventy five against the ossie point five 257 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 9: two five one euro point four four o nine against 258 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 9: the pound eighty four point twenty five. Japanese end gold 259 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 9: has on to a record high due to the uncertainty 260 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 9: around the joint safe haven buying two nine hundred and 261 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 9: seventy eight dollars there and breakthroughit seventy dollars on the notes. 262 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: Have great WEEKKMC next week. Andrew Kelloh jomowealth, dot co, 263 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: dot m Z tasking Spotify are now claiming because there's 264 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 2: been this great debate about Spotify and none of the 265 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: artists ever get paid. They're claiming this morning, fifteen hundred 266 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: artists generated over a million dollars in royalties. More than 267 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: eighty percent of those artists didn't even have a song 268 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: in the top fifty. So what they're arguing is you 269 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: can make money from Spotify and not be that successful. 270 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 2: Sext twenty two at Newstalk ZEDB, Have You Good? 271 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: The mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 272 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: by News TALKSB. 273 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: Poll out this morning, eighty five percent of investors believe 274 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: Elon's political involvement is either negative or extremely negative for 275 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 2: his car company. It's a Morgan Stanley Pole six twenty five. 276 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: Trending now will Chemist ware House the home of big 277 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: brand ftalments. 278 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 2: So if one the season opens today in Melbourne P one, 279 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: P two Today, that's practice one and two, P three 280 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: and qualifying tomorrow the race on Sunday, lawsens all about 281 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: the place being introduced to the Australian public in the 282 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: F one world. Needs had to put up with a 283 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: usual frippery. I mean, what would you do if you 284 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: weren't a driver? What would Max do if he wasn't 285 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: a driver? What's your favorite food? Anyway? Occasionally someone with 286 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 2: a brain asks something like how important is this race? 287 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: And has it all sunk in yet? 288 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 12: Starting Yeah, this is the most important year my career 289 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 12: and it's always going to be like that realistically. So 290 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 12: I thought maybe it had worn off a little bit, 291 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 12: but then we went testing and it's little things. It's 292 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 12: like the fury that has my number on it and 293 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 12: stuff like that around the garage. 294 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 8: It just has my name or my number. 295 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 12: And that stuff. It's like the little things that get 296 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 12: me excited. So that's been I'd say it definitely hasn't 297 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 12: worn off yet, but at the same time, there's just 298 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 12: so much that you've got to go through that for 299 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 12: a race weekend, really all you're thinking about is performing 300 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 12: in the car, and at that point I think I'll 301 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 12: just be focused on on the job. 302 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: Now three separate Analyst podcast hosts to maybe their predictions 303 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: for the results for the end of the year. They've 304 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: all got Liam finishing seventh or eighth. All three have 305 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: picked Lando to win. Although I know people like Martin Brundle, 306 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: who I do have time for, he picks Max for 307 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: Stappen to win. Now, if Max for staff and wins, 308 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: that means Liam really has to do well because the 309 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: expectation on Liam is extremely high to stay extremely close 310 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: to Max Withstappen. So if Max is doing well, then 311 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: Liam should be doing well, and I for Lilliam's doing well, 312 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: then it's all on for you know, young and old. 313 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: By the way, I cannot recommend episode eight Elbows out 314 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: of Drive to Survive More. It's the Liam lawsome story 315 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: and they've done it absolutely brilliantly. Scandal in health hard 316 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: to overstate the mess that's going on there. More details 317 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: the health Minister Simming and Brown fronts in a couple 318 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: of moments after the News, which is next to their 319 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: news took said. 320 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: B the news and the newsmakers the mic asking breakfast 321 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: with a Vita, retirement, communities life. 322 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: You're he'd been good to hear you enjoyed elbows out. 323 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: I watched it three times back to back with the 324 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: test with Max two tenths difference, and he hasn't driven 325 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: account for seven months. He's good, Yes, he is. It's 326 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: one of the highlights of the whole series. As far 327 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: as I'm concerned, Trump's house slash office in New York 328 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: is currently being occupied by protests. I'll come back to that. He's, 329 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: of course in the Yellow Cheers room with Mark Rutter 330 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: today talking about the war. 331 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 13: Thousands of young people are being killed a week, and 332 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,359 Speaker 13: we want to see that stop. And they're not Americans, 333 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 13: and they're not from the Netherlands for the most part, 334 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 13: they're not from they're from Russia and they're from Ukraine. 335 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 13: But they're people, and I think everybody feels the same way. 336 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 13: We wanted to stop. It's also a tremendous cost to 337 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 13: the United States and to other countries, and it's something 338 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 13: that would have never happened if I were president, and 339 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 13: it makes me very angry to see that it did happen. 340 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: But it happened, and we have to stop it. 341 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: Ruter, who once rang Holland hence the reference now runs 342 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: night as he's sucking up like everyone else. 343 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 14: What's happened the last couple of weeks is really staggering. 344 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 14: Do Europe be ins committing through a package of eight 345 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 14: hundred billion defense spending the Germans know and potentially up 346 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 14: to a half of trillion ext in defense spending, and 347 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 14: then of course you has can you start me here? 348 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 14: The best Prime minister and others all committing to much 349 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 14: high defense spending. 350 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: Richard Arnold, we got the shutdown, the scenespire. We got 351 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: so much going on, Richard Donald Shirley twenty two minutes 352 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: away from seven back here though, more bumbling in confidence 353 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: of Health in New Zealand, as a reviewer's launched into 354 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: their procurement processes got a two million dollar contract we 355 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: told you about yesterday, went to a UK based firm 356 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: NBI Healthcare Technologies. Health New Zealand claimed MBI, we're the 357 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: only company in the whole world able to do this, 358 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: so advertising the job wasn't necessary. Trouble was a senior 359 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: manager in Health New Zealand had links to that company. 360 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: Now the Health Minister, simming in Brown is with us morning, 361 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: good morning. This doesn't pass the pub test, does it? 362 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 8: No? 363 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 15: And that's why I've asked for a review of this. 364 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 15: I wasn't satisfied when Hell New Zealand said that what 365 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 15: they said around this being the only company in the 366 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 15: world which could do that. I've asked for a review 367 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 15: to sure procurement rules were being followed at the time 368 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 15: back in twenty twenty three when this happened, but more 369 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 15: importantly to make sure that this type of practice and 370 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 15: in procurement rules are being followed today. 371 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: What's your gut? Is it bungling or scandal? 372 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 15: I think there's two. There's two issues here. One is 373 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 15: where the procurement rules being followed? The second is are 374 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 15: they being followed today? I think on the face of it, 375 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 15: what you've said is right. But what I want to 376 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 15: know is have it and have assurances of is that 377 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 15: this isn't that we are following procurment rules. This is 378 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 15: taxpayers money, MinC. This is your listener's taxpayers money. They 379 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 15: expect value for money from every single dollar and across 380 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 15: every single contract, and I want to make sure that 381 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 15: that is what we're receiving. 382 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: I can't work out what the real issue is here. 383 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: I mean to tell me that there is only one company. 384 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: I mean, what they were looking to do in that 385 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: contract wasn't wasn't remarkable, it wasn't brain surger. It was 386 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: just you know, to help you the flow of patients. 387 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: Better to insult me by saying this is there's only 388 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 2: one company on planet Earth that can do this is 389 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: bullshit and you. 390 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 15: Know it's that, And that's why I've asked for a review, 391 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 15: Senators of that comment. I've asked for a review because ultimately, 392 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 15: you know, these are the type of issues that taxpayers 393 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 15: expect to be you know, they accept good procurement policies 394 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 15: to be followed. Look, there are instances where you know, 395 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 15: government agencies don't have choice, but ultimately they need to 396 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 15: go through a robust process to determine that. I've asked 397 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 15: a review to ensure that you know, taxpayers money is 398 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 15: being is being respected across the contracting process at Health 399 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 15: New Zealand. 400 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: And that's insult number one, just telling me that when 401 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: it's so blatantly not true. But also we just happen 402 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: to have somebody in the company who's associated back in Britain. 403 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: I mean, how do you explain that? 404 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 15: Well, I think that's that's another part of the issue here, 405 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 15: and that's again why I've asked for a review of what's happened. 406 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 15: I'm not going to get into the particular personal issues 407 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 15: that I think the stuff journalists have been uncovering, but 408 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 15: I would just point out that New Zealand taxpayers expect 409 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 15: to have confidence in procurement policies. There are procurement policies 410 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 15: for a reason, that is to ensure that value for 411 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 15: money for every tax payer dollar is spent, and that's 412 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 15: what I expect from Health New Zealand. 413 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: Which debtails into this Deloitte report, which hasn't got the 414 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: coverage it deserves, is this has there been sabotaged there 415 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: when Central says to the regions, we want to do this, 416 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: and they literally deliberately and overtly ignore the instructions, you 417 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: are sabotaging the system, aren't you. 418 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 15: Well, I think that Deloitte report, which was released last Friday, 419 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 15: and you're right, hasn't had the coverage that it needs. 420 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 15: But Basically, it points out the failures of the last 421 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 15: government's reforms of health in New Zealand. They jammed twenty 422 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 15: one bhbs together, put a new letter head on and 423 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 15: said job done. Ultimately, they then fired all of the 424 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 15: financial controllers. They removed that local accountability. We saw a 425 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 15: huge blowout in the budget and without the financial controllers, 426 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 15: as the report says, the financial system was being managed 427 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 15: by via Excel spreadsheet, which is appalling. That's been fixed now. 428 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 15: But this is what we're dealing with the government is 429 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 15: having to get this health system organized and focused back 430 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 15: on the patient and focused on delivery with clear accountabilities 431 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 15: right down through that organization. It's a big job, Mike, 432 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 15: but that's what I'm focused on as Minister of how 433 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 15: focusing on delivering for the patient and making sure it's 434 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 15: delivering within its budget. 435 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: Appreciate you telling me you have a good week in 436 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: Simon Brown, who is the Health Minister with us this morning. 437 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: That Deloitte report which we featured from last week, seventy 438 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: seven pages, It honestly is worth reading, if only to 439 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: remind you just how incompetently run this country was, how 440 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: dangerous it became and for all of the sympathy we've 441 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: had over this ensuing period of the public servants getting 442 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: let go. By the time you've read that Deloitte report 443 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: and read Brian Roach's Report into the Public Service, you 444 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: will have less sympathy, believe me, for what's been going 445 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: on in the public service seventeen too. 446 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full showpodcast on iHeartRadio powered by 447 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: News Talks. 448 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: It be Mike. I've worked in the area of optimization 449 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: and methodologies for weightless minimization. This is rocket science to 450 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: most people. But we do exist in New Zealand, peep. 451 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: I don't doubt it. I don't doubt the re companies 452 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 2: all over the world. It exists and they run Excel spreadsheets. 453 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: No they don't, and those for Health New Zealand. To 454 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 2: say there's only one company, I mean it literally insults 455 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 2: each and every one of us. 456 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 16: Fourteen to two international correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, 457 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 16: Peace of mind for New Zealand business. 458 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: Sidside Richard Island and warning. So we're standing by for 459 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: the Russians, are we? 460 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 4: Well? 461 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 17: Yes, we just wonder whether anything really is showing movement 462 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 17: on this or whether it's or just talk. You would 463 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 17: think the latter are looking at Putin's visit to the 464 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 17: military front lines today wearing fatigue. So all about continuing 465 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 17: the war seems to be the message from Putin, specifically 466 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 17: a criminal aid Yuri Yushikov also saying that Russia does 467 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 17: not want the kind of temporary ceasefire that Ukraine just 468 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 17: agreed to. Instead, I have a list of demands that 469 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 17: amount to total Ukrainian surandum. So this is the backdrop 470 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 17: as the US Special Invoice Steve Whitcoff has arrived in 471 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 17: Moscow now, which is saying that they do not support 472 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 17: the thirty day ceasefire that Ukraine just signed on to 473 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 17: and insisting there'll be no talk about NATO and so on. 474 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 17: Putin himself says he still has many reservations about the 475 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 17: American broken peace effort. He says he wants a lot 476 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 17: of clarification, including it appears, for the direct discussions with Trump. 477 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 17: Another issue is the city of Kursk, where Russian troops 478 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 17: are on the verge of regaining control. The White House 479 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 17: now says the ball is in Russia's court when it 480 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 17: comes to any further discussions, and it is not clear 481 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 17: that Russia really is ready for any serious diplomatic engagement. 482 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 17: Also unclear as the Trump role the US President has, 483 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 17: As you've noted, just wrapped up talks with NATO Secretary 484 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 17: General Mark Ruter at the White House. Trump has said 485 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 17: little about all of these developments. 486 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 4: As people talking in Russia. 487 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 13: We have representatives over there, Steve Whitcoff and others, and 488 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 13: in very serious discussions. As you know, Ukraine has a 489 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 13: greed subject to this what's happening today to a complete ceasefire, 490 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 13: and we hope Prussia will do the same. 491 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 17: Trump's is also We're going to see whether or not 492 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 17: Russia's there, and if not, it will be a very 493 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 17: disappointing moment for the world. So yeah, this is a 494 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 17: pivotal point. Meantime that Trump Tower posts just been talking 495 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 17: about demonstrators filling the entrance to the building denouncing the 496 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 17: arrest of the Palestinian activist. Moment Khalil has been chipped 497 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 17: off to a Louisiana site without even being formally charged, 498 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 17: without shouting fight Nazis, not students protest ongoing lies. 499 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: Indeed, were they going to I mean, how many times 500 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: we have to be here? They're going to make the 501 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: is it closing down or not. 502 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 17: Yeah, well, we don't know the answer. The deadline is 503 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 17: tomorrow night, midnight US time. That is the point when 504 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 17: a deal to avert a US government shut down would 505 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 17: have to take effect. House Republicans approved the Trump supported 506 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 17: six months funding measure, which now faces a Senate vote. 507 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 17: Republicans because have a fifty three seat majority, but they 508 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 17: need to get sixty votes, so that requires the support 509 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 17: from at least seven Democrats, probably eight, because there is 510 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 17: one Republican who have suggested that he doesn't support this. 511 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 17: So Democratic House Leader ha Kim Jeffrey says Democrats do 512 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 17: not back at either. He's what he is saying. 513 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 18: The best path forward is to move a four week 514 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 18: spending bill that would freeze spending and allow for negotiations 515 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 18: to continue in a bipartisan way. 516 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 17: Well, in the past, Democrats have joined Republicans to prevent 517 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 17: a shutdown, but this time, in the midst of the 518 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 17: Elon Musk sackings of government workers, it could be quite different, 519 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 17: says Democrats Susan Rice. 520 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 19: To get Democratic votes, you need to negotiate the Democrats. 521 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 19: You're essentially asking him to roll over and play dead 522 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 19: while Elon Musk and Donald Trump rape and pillage the 523 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 19: federal government. 524 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 17: Republicans think the Dems will cave in the coming hours 525 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 17: if there is a government shutdown. Of course, we already 526 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 17: know that Trump will blame the Democrats, who will blame 527 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 17: the Republicans who control all the branches of the government. Here, 528 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 17: of course, if this is how it plays out, it 529 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 17: is everyday workers who will really suffer. 530 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: You have a good weekend. Might see next week. By 531 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: the way, just at the end of that conversation, as 532 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: regards tariffs, he's talking two hundred percent on booze this morning. 533 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: But as for Canada, Canada is going to be interested 534 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: to hear this. 535 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 13: The United States can subsidi as a country for two 536 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 13: hundred billion dollars a year. We don't need their cars, 537 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 13: we don't need their energy, we don't need their lumber, 538 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 13: we don't need anything that they. 539 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: That they get. 540 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 13: We do it because we want to be helpful, but 541 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 13: it comes a point when you just can't do that. 542 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 13: You have to run your own country. And to be 543 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 13: honest with you, Canada only works as a state. We 544 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 13: don't need anything they have. 545 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 2: Honestly, if I was fording Ontario, I would literally turn 546 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 2: the lights out to New York right now to stick 547 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: it right up. By the way, the debt that they're 548 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: carrying has worsened in the first month of Trump's presidency, 549 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 2: not that he is necessarily directly responsible for that, three 550 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: eighteen billion more than the same time last year, thirty 551 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: eight percent higher the bill. The total debt, by the way, 552 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: it's thirty six point two trillion. The bill to pay 553 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 2: that just the interest on that debt each and every 554 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 2: month is seventy four billion dollars nine to seven. 555 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: The make Hosking breakfast with a Vita retirement communities news 556 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: togs had been just on this. 557 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: Khalil mah Mood, who the Columbia University lovies and Cardigan 558 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: Whereas are parking themselves at Trump Towers on Fifth Avenue 559 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: currently in New York, saying freeedom, Free theom because he's 560 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: a good guy and it's not fair that he's been arrested. 561 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 2: Just let me give you a couple of quotes from 562 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: mister Mahmud. Zionists don't deserve to live. Her Masks were 563 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: right to do what they did. Sinhoa, who's the leader 564 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: of her mass, is a brave man and this was 565 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: his crowning achievement. These attacks as demonstrated on October seven, 566 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: are the path deliberations. So cool guy, excellent guy in 567 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: the sort of bloke they need in America, of course. 568 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: So that gives you a sort of a sense of 569 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: why they've probably rounded them up and stuck them in 570 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: a place and will eventually deport them because they don't 571 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: need people like that in America. And the fact that 572 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: they're I mean the free speech, which is what they're arguing, 573 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 2: the free speech. How far down that particular rabbit hole 574 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: do you want to go? Five minutes away from seven, 575 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: the in and the ouse. 576 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: It's the Bears with business fiber take your business productivity 577 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: to the next level. 578 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: Now Pokemon's a big deal and something's been sold in 579 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 2: the Pokemon world. Pokemon is the highest grossing media franchise 580 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: by the way of all time. It's an estimated revenue 581 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: of turn in fifty seven billion. Now Neantic Niantic, the 582 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: company that makes the Pokemon Go game, is being sold 583 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: to a Saudi video game investment company. So Niantic has 584 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: sold the entire gaming division for six point one billion 585 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: to a company called Scopely, which is based in California 586 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: but owned by the Saudis and their Sebi Games Group. 587 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: It's a very big deal. First major gaming company plus 588 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: Pokemon time two B. So to THEI. The Saudi's own 589 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: everything now literally. So they've got liv Gold, they've got 590 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: the boxing, they've got the World Cup, they got the games. 591 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: Pokemon goes biggest mobile game launchhob of any in the 592 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 2: world back in twenty eighteen. Currently still has one hundred 593 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 2: and forty seven million active players worldwide. Latest figures we 594 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: have are from twenty twenty shows that it has more. 595 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: It's made more than ten and a half billion in revenue, 596 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: which brings me very nicely to the Minecraft nonsense. It's 597 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: going on at Wilworth's at the moment. What's it called 598 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 2: cheeseos or whatever? Hubees. So next to my desk sits 599 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 2: and don't even get me started about the hot desk 600 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: scenario of modern office work. Say these not yours, No, 601 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: And that's my point, Glenn. So next to my desk 602 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: is a person who will remain nameless, but who's a 603 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: collector of these of these what are they called cheesys hub's. 604 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: So these these Minecraft qubs. So when you go to 605 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: the supermarket at the moment at Wolworth's and you spend 606 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars, you get given a piece of cardboard, 607 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: and this is how ridiculous the whole thing has becount 608 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: It's literally a piece of cardboard and if you fold 609 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: the cardboard, it makes a cube. Hence it's called qubs. 610 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: And the theory is somehow you collect like thousands of 611 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: these qubs and you, well, in this case, if you're 612 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: the person next to me, you pop them on top 613 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: of the desk, and somebody like me comes along and goes, 614 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: what the hell is this and why don't I put 615 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: them all on the bin, to which everyone around me goes, no, no, no, no, 616 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: their qbs, And I go, what do you do with them? 617 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: Nobody knows? And so I like the idea when the 618 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: supermarkets do, like they give you a plant and you 619 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: can grow a plant. I even got into those many 620 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: grocery shop things when the kids were little. They brought 621 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: on little grocery they're all cool. Qbs is stupid. It's 622 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: just playing straight up and down stupid. It makes literally 623 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: no sense whatsoever. But people allegedly are spending money at 624 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: the grocery shop to collect more of these. 625 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: My question is why the only report you need to 626 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: start your day. The my costume Breakfast with the range 627 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: rover Villa designed to intrigue and use togs dead. 628 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: Be well seven past seven. So, as we said at 629 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: the start of the show, the opening day of this 630 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: investor fest looks a bit promising. Serious players representing large 631 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: four tunes looking to invest here and get this country 632 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: back in the game. Eberdeen is a Scottish based infrastructure 633 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: fund with more than a train dollars worth of asset. 634 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: The head of Infrastructure Funds, Bill Hoffey, is in the 635 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: country and well there's Bill morning, Good morning. What's your 636 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: summation of day one? 637 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 20: Very positive? I think quite a few investors came here 638 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 20: with a degree of cautious optimism and the government has 639 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 20: been looking to knock down some of those cautious barriers 640 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 20: and give people an opportunity to have some real, real 641 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 20: promise to invest and put their people into this country. 642 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: I thought the Prime Minister's message that with a shelter 643 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: from the storm was a good one. Did it lend 644 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: well in your view? 645 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 21: He did? 646 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 20: A number of compelling reasons have been given as to 647 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 20: why now is the right time to come to New 648 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 20: Zealand for those foreign investors and foreign construction companies and 649 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 20: grow their business locally. 650 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: You get enough out of day one project wise to 651 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: be tempted or do you need day two with more projects. 652 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: In other words, you need to hear more. 653 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 20: It's very much a two part sessions. So they've covered 654 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 20: some high level projects during the first day, but there 655 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 20: are more to come as I understand it today, So 656 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 20: very much looking forward to hearing about some of the 657 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 20: other sectors where they've got some projects in development. 658 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: The Second Harbor crossing is one that we're apparently looking 659 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: forward to. Does your company look to specific projects or 660 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 2: types of projects or any projects potentially. 661 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 20: The Eberdeen Concession Infra team has about eight billion enz 662 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 20: globally under management in PPPs and concession infrastructure projects, so 663 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 20: we're very much targeting those projects which have a public 664 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 20: private partner ship flavor to them, So that's the kind 665 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 20: of projects that we are looking at. We're very much 666 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 20: interested in the Northern Corridor as well as some of 667 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 20: the social accommodation projects which have been signaled to be 668 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 20: coming out from the government. 669 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: How aware, and this has been the great debate in 670 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: this country post COVID and post our lockdown for such 671 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: a long period of time, and the Prime Minister goes 672 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: on about it all the time. How are where are 673 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: you guys of New Zealand being open for business or 674 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: has this been a revelation to you? And it's good 675 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: to hear from your point of view. 676 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 20: It's certainly good to hear. From my point of view. 677 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 20: Aberdeen was involved in bidding the previous round of public 678 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 20: private partnerships, which I think last has an investment opportunity 679 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 20: probably about seven years ago, so it has been very 680 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 20: quiet for the past six seven years. From my perspective, 681 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 20: as a green field investor into this landscape, we obviously 682 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 20: look and have capacity to invest globally and New Zealand 683 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 20: is one of those places where we can do business 684 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 20: if the pipeline that's right and the government is coming 685 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 20: forward with the right kind of projects. 686 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: That was my next question. So you've had three or 687 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: four decent projects more come today? Do you need to 688 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: see the pipeline which is beyond project number one or 689 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: maybe two? You want to see something multi year. 690 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 20: Yes, and certainly that has been signaled during the first day, 691 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 20: and I expect a bit more through the second day. 692 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 20: For companies, particularly the design and construction companies and operating 693 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 20: companies to come and put quality people in Australia where 694 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 20: maybe the local skills don't exist. It's got to be 695 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 20: more than just one project in one sector. 696 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 2: Good stuff, Bill, good and so I appreciate it very 697 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: much and enjoy ustay in the country. Bill Hoffey, who's 698 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: with the Eberdeen he's the head of infrastructure Funds liven 699 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 2: past seven scaping the people coming and going these steps 700 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: yet again a glass owt full. I suppose we aren't 701 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: leaving as quickly as we once were, although year on 702 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: year another record, it's just monthly numbers show it is slowing. 703 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: Massi University sociologist Paul Spoonley's back. Well, there's Paul, morning 704 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: to you. 705 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, good morning mate. 706 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 2: When does this flush through and we get a vibe? 707 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 2: I mean the number is the net gain is thirty 708 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: something thousand. How long before we can go right? This 709 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: is about where we're at for now. 710 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 10: Well, I would really like us to identify how fast 711 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 10: we're going to grow and just listening to your previous interviewee, 712 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 10: I think one of the things they're going to be 713 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 10: looking for is the continuity of skill supply. So we 714 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 10: need to factor in how many skilled people we need 715 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 10: in what sector? And he mentioned construction, which is a 716 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 10: sector which is under pressure at the moment, and we 717 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 10: need to put that together. You know, who do we 718 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 10: train on shore? Who do we bring in from offshore 719 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 10: is a key question in terms of the summit. 720 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you raised that because the numbers coming 721 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: in it's been consistent now for at least a year. 722 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: The big numbers each time is India, Philippines and China. 723 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,959 Speaker 2: Now does that matter if the skills are okay. 724 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 10: No, it doesn't matter. I think we need to do 725 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 10: more mic in terms of preparing them for New Zealand. 726 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 10: So we should do what Canada does, which is to say, 727 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 10: you know, my costking is going to migrate to New Zealand, 728 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 10: what does he need once he gets here in terms 729 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 10: of making sure he's got the skill set. One of 730 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 10: the things that migrants don't have are networks and local knowledge, 731 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 10: and we need to make sure that they've got that. 732 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 10: So I don't mind whether it's the government that does that, 733 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 10: or whether it's the sector, or whether it's the employer, 734 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 10: but somebody needs to do that so that we they've 735 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 10: got skills. We need those skills and we need to 736 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 10: make sure that we're grabbing those skills with both hands 737 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 10: and utilizing it as much as we can. 738 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: Andrew Kellerherra money Man says he doesn't think we'll get there, 739 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: but I worry about being an net exporter of people. 740 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: In other words, number of people coming into the country 741 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: is slowing, the number of people leaving is slowing, but 742 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: not as much. In other words, we're getting closer and 743 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: closer to zero. Is that an issue or not? 744 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 10: Well, I don't think it is a I noticed some 745 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 10: of the bank economists are saying it is, but I 746 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 10: don't personally think it is. Mike, But the thing that 747 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 10: I noticed in these later stats is that we have, 748 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 10: for a twelve month period, had the largest number of 749 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 10: people migrating off shore. And I've got two questions. And 750 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 10: of course we don't have departure cards, so we only 751 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 10: know the numbers, the age, and where they're going to. 752 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 10: We don't know about their skills. But are we losing 753 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 10: skilled people? They're nice? You and I both know the 754 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 10: answer to that. And then are we also seeing unskilled 755 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 10: and semi skilled people leaving and going perhaps to Australia, 756 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 10: And therefore we're exporting part of our unemployment rate. So 757 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 10: I think there's some big economic questions which we need 758 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 10: to ask and answer. And I think the minister, I 759 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 10: mean the Minister's signal that this year she's going to 760 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 10: make some changes and they're all in the pipeline. But 761 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 10: you know, we do need that bigger picture really very. 762 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 2: Well, said Paul as always Professor Paul Spoonley, Massing University 763 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 2: is fourteen minutes past seven on Time with You on 764 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: QB's There is the usual suspects are into these things. 765 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 2: Their financial literacy on a scale of one to ten 766 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 2: as one or two at best. Mike Aricbs might take 767 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 2: away as a teacher. They're all designer maths kids making 768 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 2: cubes using simple nets, subliminal learning, fingers crossed, not a 769 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 2: bad point. Mike, has Kate collected all forty qbs yet, No, 770 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 2: PAULI hasn't. I haven't seen any qbs in the house, 771 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 2: Thank god, Mike. We collect supermarket giveaways and hand them 772 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 2: out to kids at Halloween. Mike Wilwas can't possibly make 773 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 2: any claim for the environment when adding to the landfill 774 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 2: with this, Junke, And so it goes fourteen past. 775 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 776 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: by News Talks. 777 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 2: Ab More Larification Madness with David Seymour coming up after 778 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 2: the news meantime seventeen pass good way to win the 779 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: week for Joseph Parker. So yesterday we were telling you 780 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: that Daniel Dubois fight was off and that was the 781 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 2: one that was canceled last month anyway, but in steps 782 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 2: the WBO sanctioning body overnight who orders Alexander Yusik to 783 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: start negotiations with Joseph Parker. So what does all this 784 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 2: mean from Duco Joe's manager today? But Higgins is well 785 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 2: this David, very good morning to you. 786 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 21: Good morning mate. 787 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: Just give us a crash course on the power latter, 788 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 2: can the wto trump Paul Warren, who is Dubois manager, 789 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 2: and tell them what to do or not? 790 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 21: Not necessarily So at the end of the day, who 791 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 21: Usik fights will be up to Usik, and if he 792 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 21: chooses to ignore order by the WBO, he'll have to 793 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 21: vacate the wo title will be stripped of it, which 794 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 21: will leave what's called a vacant title. There'll be no 795 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 21: title holder, and funnily enough, that's how Joseph Parker won 796 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 21: his first world title of Auckland twenty sixteen, and that's 797 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 21: the situation for me, is probably more likely than not. 798 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 2: Okay, is Warren ropable? 799 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 21: Well, no, he's you know, he's an old dog and 800 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 21: this will have happened to many times. And frankly, Joseph's 801 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 21: been the number one contender WBO from Warden a year, 802 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 21: having beaten Zang Warren's fighter and has been interim world champion. 803 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 21: So Joseph has deserved this sin It's long over June, 804 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 21: and they might have seen it coming, that might not have, 805 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 21: but it is a dilemma, throws a bit of a 806 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 21: spanner in the works, so Usik will have It'll be 807 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 21: ultimately up to Usk where the to fight Parker? Does 808 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 21: he want to belt? Well? The drivers in boxing, all 809 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 21: the major incentives are money number one, and so I 810 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 21: think I, even though I'm Joseph Parker's manager, Usak fighting 811 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 21: Dubois does make some sense because one it's for unification, 812 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 21: well it was a unification until yesterday. But two it 813 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 21: makes a fortune that fills up Wembley in the English summer, 814 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 21: so there is a powerful incentive for U Sick to 815 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 21: fight Duboi. So I'm not too excited yet, but this 816 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 21: is very good news for Joseph Parker. There's nothing bad. 817 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 21: He means, Joseph right at the top, and he's been 818 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 21: ordered five times by one of sanctioned bodies, and even 819 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 21: if it doesn't happen, he just has to be patient 820 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 21: and win and one more win. I think he's right 821 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 21: there even if it doesn't happen next. 822 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 2: Because it's sort of falling to his feet, isn't it, 823 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 2: Because you've got Fury gone, you got Joshua nothing a 824 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 2: shadow of what he once was. So you said, dubois 825 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 2: in Parker, it aren't. 826 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 21: They Yes, yes, you're you're you're right, And so part 827 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 21: leads fall on his feet. But part the other thing. 828 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 21: He steamrolled three of the most feared men on the 829 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 21: planet in the space of the year, being John Tay Wilder. 830 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 21: He was undog and gave him the chance. Then Zang 831 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 21: people gave him even less of a chance, more of 832 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 21: a bogey man. Then as Pecoli, who's never been knocked out. 833 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 21: He's a manned mountain, and he put them away consecutively. 834 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 21: And so that that's quite an unprecedented run against that 835 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 21: quality of opponent and modern history. And then if you 836 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 21: look at Throw's overall record. He's what I call it 837 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 21: young veteran like. He's got more names on his record, 838 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 21: big names, Joshua White, Chasaura Tack and Ruiz It goes on, 839 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 21: Wilder Zang, etc. He's got more big names than almost 840 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 21: anyone else put to the rest, put together at over 841 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 21: age thirty three in a very good space. 842 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 2: All right, we'll stay in touch them. Let's see we 843 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 2: can get something going. David Higgins, who is Joe Parker's manager, 844 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 2: Let's mark the weekend Moment seven twenty one. 845 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio pw 846 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: it by News Talk Seppy. 847 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: Now, Happy Pets are the name sums up the business. 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Now that the Prime 871 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 2: Minister does in z seven between the investment conference, the 872 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 2: India trip about to unfold, and the boost a huge 873 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 2: boost and visa interest from wealthy foreigners, that's not a 874 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 2: bad week's work for a small country trying to get 875 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: its mojo back. 876 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 22: Tariffs too, there's going to be til recession in America. 877 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 2: The idiocy driving the ideology has been on full display. 878 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 2: Random numbers, multiple threats, increase costs. All that's done this 879 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 2: week is tank markets, decrease value, freak people out, provide uncertainty, 880 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 2: and generally reinforce the idea that Trump is random as 881 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 2: if not dangerous. Wangan is seven. That council with the 882 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 2: payments for meetings and dumping the food scraps is not often. 883 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 2: The council does two good things in a week. Liam 884 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 2: eight early days and the pressure is real, but is 885 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 2: as big assport gets anywhere, and he is at the 886 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 2: pointy end of it. Supermarket supplier costs six. You noticed 887 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 2: those settled looks like stability. We like stability. Housing six 888 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 2: affordability in a sweet spot, they tell us this week 889 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:18,240 Speaker 2: we like sweet spots. Volunteer and nine gets another payment upgrade. 890 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 2: I mean those guys can't stop giving away money. We 891 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 2: like that as well. Mark Carney seven, a material improvement 892 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 2: on the other bloke a peace steel six. Let's wait 893 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 2: and see what Vlad does. But all encouraging newsers to 894 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 2: be welcomed in trouble times. Welcome Turnbull seven sort of 895 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 2: my hero of the week. You're given to bullies you 896 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 2: get more bullying in politics and life. Sage advice, Rod 897 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 2: Duke seven. 898 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 8: I think it's about time something happened. 899 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, other sort of hero of the week. Get your 900 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 2: ars into gear is what he actually said. Get your 901 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 2: ass into gear as in government as in life. Sage 902 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 2: advice Rugby changes for Can they at some point work 903 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 2: out the connection between the rules and the mucking around 904 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 2: and the size of the fanbase and go ah? Is 905 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 2: that what happened to the sport are The health report 906 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 2: by Deloitte eight probably the most important document that went 907 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 2: the most unreported. It is all you need to know, 908 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: not just about health, but about competence. Incompetence, stupidity, laziness, 909 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 2: and I still say sabotage. And that is the weak 910 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 2: copies on the website and marking the week attracted investment 911 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 2: bids from eighty seven percent of those attending that conference, 912 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 2: with black Rocks saying this is way better than any 913 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: road we saw, asking Mike what about company KIV Savers. 914 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 2: I'm with Westpac KIWI Saber is the re government New 915 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 2: Zealand KIV Saber investment deal. I'd be up for a 916 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 2: good deal. Yeah, that's what they were saying. One of 917 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 2: the guests on the program yesterday said exactly that the 918 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 2: New Zealand super Fund and yes kV saver funds nothing 919 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 2: stopping them investing in these sort of things. But the superfund, 920 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 2: the big New Zealand White super Fund, nothing stopping them 921 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 2: getting into infrastructure as well. Mike, I noticed the Aberdeen 922 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 2: Investment bloke said they hadn't really done anything in this 923 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 2: country for seven years. Does that sum up the left 924 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 2: and their approach to this country or what? One hundred percent? 925 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 2: Speaking of the left in this country, last time they 926 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 2: in town, they started doing a lot of morarification stuff. 927 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 2: We've unearthed even more. My big question to David Seymour, 928 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 2: who's with us next, is how come it's taken a 929 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 2: year and a half to do anything about it and 930 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 2: we're still discussing what should have been fixed. 931 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,760 Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic asking 932 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial, 933 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: and rural. 934 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 2: News togs had been just to wrap up this today's 935 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 2: version of the cluster in America and globally with tariffs, 936 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: it's two hundred percent. The threat is on various booze 937 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 2: items coming in from the EU. To be fair, the 938 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 2: EU do charge fifty percent on the stuff coming out 939 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 2: of America, so it is retaliatory. Anyway, Rutter was there 940 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 2: from NATO. They had a good chat about that. That 941 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 2: seemed to go reasonably well. So the two big meetings 942 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 2: this week have been Martin yesterday out of Ireland and 943 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 2: Rutter this morning out of NATO. They seem to be 944 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 2: getting on reasonably well. We've got a peace steal coming 945 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 2: in the war. But then Trump did say that there's 946 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 2: nothing that Canada does that America needs, which of course 947 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 2: is literally not true. But the bloke who runs the 948 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 2: power will runs all of Ontario, but is responsible as 949 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: well for the power. 950 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 5: Doug Fold said this, guess what inflation's going to happen. 951 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 5: A terrify on Canada is a tax on the American people. 952 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 5: We're already seeing it. With the aluminum and steel within cars. 953 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 5: You're going to be paying a lot more for everything 954 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 5: right across the board because you can't get aluminum anywhere else. 955 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 5: You only produce sixteen percent of your aluminum. We ship 956 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 5: in over sixty percent. So anything that has aluminum you're 957 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 5: going to pay more. Anything that has steel, you're going 958 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 5: to pay more. You're bringing over close to ten billion 959 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 5: dollars of aluminum in over six billion dollars of steel 960 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 5: in This is hurting the American people. The markets are speaking, 961 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 5: they're absolutely tumbling over four and a half trillion dollars. 962 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 5: And there's only one reason, because they want to continue 963 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 5: to put uncertainty out there. 964 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,479 Speaker 2: And it's a lutnik who Yes, did I call the 965 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 2: Australia dumpers And this was all on aluminium and steel 966 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: as well, And of course Astralia aunt dumps. They barely 967 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 2: export to the United States. We've got to do experts 968 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,280 Speaker 2: in the United States. It is Canada, and it's China, 969 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 2: and Australia's right at the end of the spectrum. Anyway, 970 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 2: more on that with the Murray Old's later meant I'm 971 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 2: back here more moraification issues to deal with. I told 972 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 2: you earlier this week about the requirements around ta tyranny 973 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 2: for pharmacists. Now Walkland University's new invented program. This is 974 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 2: the way Papa talmata Ra International students are being made 975 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 2: to do this. It's mandatory and they will charge you five, 976 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 2: seven hundred and thirty dollars for the pleasure. Now the 977 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 2: athlete David Seymour is back with us. Very good morning. 978 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 23: Hey, good morning mate. 979 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 2: So we talked to Penny Simmons about this, may have 980 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 2: even talked to you about it in the last year 981 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 2: or so once it came to our attention because of 982 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 2: children in that particular establishment. But she said, and I 983 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 2: think you said at the time, they're independent, they can 984 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 2: do what they like, can't they. 985 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 23: Well, there is an element of truth in that, and 986 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 23: I think a lot of the frustrations that people have, 987 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 23: including me, with different institutions that haven't quite got the 988 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,919 Speaker 23: memo that the people changed the government is that they're 989 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 23: subject to the law as is ultimate lead the government. 990 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 23: So in the case of the University of Auckland, they 991 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 23: have a council, they have the ultimate say what we 992 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 23: can do is a point better people but also publicly 993 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 23: maker views know, and I certainly intend to be doing 994 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 23: that because I've had so many constituents in the EPSOM 995 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 23: electorate who are students and they just saying this is 996 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 23: not only not of interest to us, but more importantly 997 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 23: it's a perversion of academic freedom. This particular course is 998 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 23: quite different from other stuff that happens at the university. 999 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 23: Usually students can choose their own electives. There's no course 1000 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 23: that's absolutely compulsory across the whole university, and usually professors 1001 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 23: are free to criticize the course material. This is quite different. 1002 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 23: It's actually a form of indoctrination because it's largely being 1003 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 23: taught by people outside a particular faculty for frankly political 1004 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 23: purposes rather than educational exactly. 1005 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 2: Now, the difficulty is, and you violated, I mean they 1006 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 2: take a paper off you. In other words, because you 1007 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 2: have to do that paper, you are doing one less 1008 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,240 Speaker 2: paper of your choice, which is what university is all about. 1009 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 2: Can you, though, despite what you said, literally do anything 1010 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 2: about it. 1011 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 23: What we can do is appoint new council members will 1012 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 23: be doing that. Unfortunately, I think only one comes up 1013 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 23: this year. But we can also, I think, lead opinion, 1014 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 23: or at least reflect the opinion that we're feeling, so 1015 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 23: that people on the campus have the ability to say, actually, 1016 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 23: we don't agree with this, Our government doesn't agree with this, 1017 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 23: MIAMP doesn't agree with us. We should be able to 1018 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 23: speak up and say no to it. That's part of 1019 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 23: I know that's what you might call soft power, but 1020 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 23: I still think it's important. 1021 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 2: Is part of it could it. I mean one of 1022 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 2: two things are going to happen. Either the other universities 1023 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 2: are going to go, oh cool, we'll get into this 1024 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,720 Speaker 2: as well, and then we're truly stuffed. Or international students 1025 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 2: or students generally can go look to other universities and go, well, 1026 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 2: they don't do it. I'll go there a bit of 1027 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 2: that about it. 1028 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 23: Well, Unfortunately, what I'm hearing is a lot of people 1029 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 23: is consically in the electorate I represent and now looking 1030 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 23: at overseas universities because they feel unable to speak up 1031 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 23: against these things, and yet they also know it's not 1032 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 23: the best for their future. 1033 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:16,879 Speaker 15: I have to say. 1034 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 23: One of the purposes of the Treaty Principles Bill was 1035 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 23: to define the principles of the Treaty as treating everybody 1036 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 23: equally in this country. And the purpose of that is 1037 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,879 Speaker 23: to allow people to tap on the sign and you say, 1038 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 23: you say you have to do this because of the 1039 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 23: principles of the Treaty, No, you don't. 1040 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 21: Here they are. 1041 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1042 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 2: Did you read the spin Off story by Miss Smith 1043 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 2: who sat there for most of the eighty hours. 1044 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 23: I did not read. I do read the Spinoff sometimes, 1045 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 23: but usually you should. 1046 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 2: Read it fifty take it. It's her fifty things she learned, 1047 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 2: and she was one of the few who was there 1048 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 2: for the whole time, along with Mary Television. And what 1049 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,359 Speaker 2: she got out of it, and this is a very 1050 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 2: left leaning sort of operation. What she got out of it, though, 1051 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 2: and I thought was really instructive, was that no one agrees. 1052 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,800 Speaker 2: So you can have every expert in the world that goes, no, 1053 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 2: what David Seymore is doing is dangerous and or no, 1054 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 2: what David Seymore was doing is right, So they agree 1055 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 2: to disagree. And these are learned, studied, intelligent, articulate people. 1056 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 2: So what you're trying to do, which is to you know, 1057 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 2: here it is once and for all, is the right thing. 1058 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what came out of the hearings if 1059 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 2: you listened to them, all. 1060 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 23: Yeah, And I don't want to relitigate all the politics. Obviously, 1061 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 23: I'm disappointed that my partners and government don't want to 1062 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 23: carry this thing on. But what it will do is 1063 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 23: leave a line in the sand where people in the 1064 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 23: future will be able to say, hang on. There's been 1065 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 23: an attempt to define the principles of the treaty as 1066 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 23: making all Dewey's equal. There haven't been any strong arguments 1067 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 23: against it, and I believe that in the future, maybe me, 1068 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 23: maybe somebody else will pick this up and we will 1069 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 23: be a much better country when we interpret our founding 1070 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 23: document as giving each of us equal rights. 1071 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 21: Right. 1072 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 2: I got sidetracked there by what you said. Sorry pharmacists, 1073 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 2: which was the other thing this week with the Taitunti thing. 1074 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 2: Eighty five percent of pharmacists the short of staff. I 1075 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,879 Speaker 2: read the list out on air and we wonder why 1076 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 2: pharmacists don't come into the country. I mean, why haven't 1077 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 2: you fixed that? By the way, a year and a 1078 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 2: half in, why haven't you fixed it? 1079 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 23: Well again, I don't want to sound like we're trying 1080 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 23: to avoid the issue, but I just want to explain 1081 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 23: what we're doing and what the constraints are. This was 1082 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,839 Speaker 23: done back in June twenty twenty three. It comes into 1083 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 23: effect on April first this year. This is these new 1084 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 23: criteria for being a pharmacist qualified in New Zealand. Our 1085 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 23: main power over the Pharmacy Council is to appoint the council. 1086 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 23: Got I happen to be responsible for doing that. I 1087 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 23: got a paper through from the Ministry of Health about 1088 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 23: two months ago that said, here's all the usual suspects 1089 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 23: that we think you should appoint. I had to look 1090 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 23: at these names. I noticed that they'd mostly been recommended 1091 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 23: by these various so called population agencies, the Ministry for 1092 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 23: Pacific People and the Ministry for Women and TPK and 1093 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 23: Ministry for Ethnic Affairs and so on. And I looked 1094 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 23: at it and I thought, no, no, no, no. So 1095 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 23: what I've done, as I've said, we're putting a hold 1096 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 23: on the reappointments. I've put an article on pharmacy today 1097 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 23: that basically says, if you're a pharmacist who loves pharmacy 1098 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 23: and wants excellence in the profession, then please put your 1099 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 23: name for it. And I expect to appoint five of 1100 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 23: the eight people who were previously appointed by Labor. Will 1101 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 23: be putting in people who've actually got their eyes on 1102 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 23: the price of a world leading pharmacy profession that's the 1103 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 23: best at what they do, rather than a kind of 1104 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 23: cultural indoctrination. 1105 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,240 Speaker 2: Good sooner, the better, appreciate time. Have a good weekend. 1106 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 2: David Seymour actly to seven forty. 1107 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: Five Love Mike Asking Breakfast, a full show podcast on 1108 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talks. 1109 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 2: AV Mike, isn't it terrifying how slow it is to 1110 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 2: fixure this country? Terrifying is a strong word, worrying most certainly. 1111 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 2: But I've been jollied up a bit this week, as 1112 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 2: I mentioned at the show, with the investment conference, I 1113 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 2: like it. I got high hopes for Luxen out of 1114 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 2: India coming up. We've got the big boost and interest 1115 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 2: on the visas from the wealthy foreigners who want to 1116 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 2: come to this country, many of them out of America, 1117 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 2: by the way, who are running from Trump. What the 1118 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 2: heck has happened, Mike, to this country? Why is everything broken? 1119 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 2: And how the hell a labor ahead? And the poles 1120 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 2: part of the reason. First of all, I don't believe 1121 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 2: the poles, obviously, and you never really want to pay 1122 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 2: much attention to a sort of a midterm pole because 1123 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 2: most people aren't fully engaged on how they'll actually vote. 1124 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 2: But even if you do accept the numbers, never underestimate. 1125 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 2: This goes to the migration conversation we're having earlier. Never 1126 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 2: underestimate the size of the population who are more than 1127 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 2: happy to have their bum wiped and a check delivered 1128 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 2: to them, with no particular desire to do anything contributed 1129 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 2: to the economy. That's a large group of the population, unfortunately, 1130 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 2: as we saw in the last six years, and they'd 1131 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 2: want more of that. If the Labour Party come back 1132 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 2: and go, look, I'll give you a check and you 1133 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 2: can stay in bed, and you can play Minecraft, and 1134 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:56,839 Speaker 2: you can do a bit of drinking and a bit 1135 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 2: of smoking and maybe join a gang. Cool And that's 1136 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 2: a lot of people. And the great sadness out of 1137 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 2: the migration story is that many of the people who 1138 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 2: don't like that have left, and the people who don't 1139 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 2: mind it can't leave because they don't have enough money 1140 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 2: to buy an air ticket. And that's tragically, at least 1141 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 2: in part, is what happened to this country. Mike, I 1142 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 2: just don't understand why Seymour isn't a lot more popular. 1143 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 2: Talk sense. I think you makes general sense. Speaking of 1144 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,240 Speaker 2: people who makes sense, can I introduce you Charles Johnson. 1145 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,800 Speaker 2: Charles they probably call him Chuck. He's the president of 1146 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 2: the American Aluminum Association. It's all well and good. He 1147 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 2: says to want more smelting factories in the US, which 1148 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 2: is Trump's whole resondet. So in other words, we don't 1149 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 2: need anything from Canada. We'll build our own stuff. Cool, 1150 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,879 Speaker 2: let's do that. Currently, it takes eight to ten years 1151 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,839 Speaker 2: to build a smelter, So that's plus you need, says Chuck, 1152 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 2: to find a power grid strong enough and willing enough 1153 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 2: to commit twenty plus years of service for that smelter. 1154 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,439 Speaker 2: For every Canadian production job impacts, thirteen American jobs will 1155 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 2: be impact. And this is why I don't understand that Trump. 1156 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,720 Speaker 2: As much as I like bits of what Trump's about, 1157 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 2: this is just plain idiocy and ignorance. We could continue, 1158 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,879 Speaker 2: he said, it's all going to cost more anyway, because 1159 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 2: everyone understands anything about tarifs understands how it's going to 1160 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 2: cost more, or he says, says Chuck, we could continue 1161 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 2: purchasing from Canada at the current rates, seeing as those 1162 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 2: rates were what President Trump negotiated in twenty eighteen when 1163 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 2: he described them as perfect. Don't you hate it when 1164 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 2: the facts come back to bite you and your bum 1165 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 2: nighte Away from eight. 1166 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover Villa News 1167 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: tog Dad be hit mc glenn. 1168 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 2: Oh, for goodness sake, he said, tell them at the time, 1169 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 2: and I'll play some of this and it's blown up Anyway, 1170 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,479 Speaker 2: a lot of a couple of significant moments are coming 1171 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 2: this weekend. After eighteen years, the Homegrown Music Festival is 1172 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,320 Speaker 2: finishing in the Capitol and as part of that lineup, 1173 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 2: of course, she herded there, who will play their last 1174 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 2: ever performance, and John too Good as well us John. 1175 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 11: Morning, Modena, Mike, how are you very well? 1176 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 2: Thank you? How's this summer of Goodbye is gone? 1177 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 11: It's been huge. Actually, we've just got back from Australia. 1178 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 11: Every show in Australia was sold out. I don't think 1179 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 11: we'd have done that, and it's just been a joyous 1180 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 11: celebration of music every night. 1181 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 2: And when you make a big decision like this and 1182 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 2: then everyone goes no, no, don't go and sells out, 1183 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 2: do you think bigger I've made the wrong decision. 1184 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 11: This is something we've been thinking about for a while. 1185 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 11: I mean, I think COVID came around and it forced 1186 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 11: us all to stop work for a bit there, and 1187 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 11: all of a sudden I sort of looked at my 1188 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 11: six year old nine year old and went, oh, man, 1189 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 11: I've been working so hard to keep a roof over 1190 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 11: these guys' heads. I'm sort of missing them. And I 1191 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 11: think we all had sort of different sort of personal 1192 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 11: and things like that. And I think, just for once 1193 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 11: in my life when I've been eighteen, she has always 1194 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 11: been the priority. It's all had come first before everything, 1195 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 11: and so I just wanted to try putting my family first. 1196 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 8: Good. 1197 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 2: And so you're at peace with it, obviously. 1198 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 11: Absolutely, absolutely, And I've been loving it, you know, And 1199 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 11: you know what, I don't know what I'm going to 1200 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 11: feel like in a year and a half time. Maybe 1201 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 11: I'll be bored out of my mind and I want 1202 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 11: to be rocking again. But for now, that's I'm very 1203 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 11: at peace with that decision. 1204 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 2: And so will it be a we have a little 1205 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 2: something to it this weekend? Do you think that last 1206 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 2: y ever time? 1207 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 11: I think so. I think even beyond it being our 1208 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 11: last show, I think that's going to be very obvious 1209 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 11: to people that aren't there, Like our parents aren't there anymore. 1210 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 11: We've both and Tom, we've lost our parents in the 1211 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 11: thirty seven year career who's always were side of stage 1212 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 11: at every she Had Home show. So that's going to 1213 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:59,959 Speaker 11: be pretty pretty intense, I think. And I just think, yeah, 1214 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 11: it might all the reality of it might hit around 1215 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 11: that time, but the whole tour I mean it's been 1216 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 11: going for a month and a half now, it's actually 1217 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 11: just been business as usual. It's like we're sticklers for 1218 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 11: perfection and we want to make sure even show is. 1219 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 2: Great and that's all we do. Good on you, mate, 1220 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 2: We'll look good, catch up and we'll talk again soon. 1221 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 2: See what you're up to post the music career? But 1222 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 2: John too good? This weekend home grind final time. Ever, 1223 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 2: it really has been quite the story, hasn't it, Timm 1224 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 2: and Katy? But moments away. 1225 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: My Casking instateful, engaging and vitally the my Casking breakfast 1226 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 1: with a Vita retirement, communities, life, your way, news dogs, 1227 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 1: head be. 1228 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 24: Plastic. 1229 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 11: Was she the. 1230 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 2: Madonna of our age? 1231 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 25: I think you're Madonna? 1232 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 2: Better than Madonna? 1233 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 26: Oh Madonna couldn't actually see it's never. 1234 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 2: Helped a lot of people back in there. This is 1235 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 2: Lady Gagar Mayhem's the album. It's her seventh main line album. 1236 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 2: It's a return to her roots, the early days when 1237 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 2: she truly let her freak flag fly, and don't we 1238 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 2: all remember those days. It's a retreat to a safe zone, 1239 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 2: inventive resurrection of an edgy approach and outside her aesthetic 1240 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 2: that helped launch her into the pop annals as the 1241 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 2: premier star of her generation. Although I don't have any 1242 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 2: on at my stick, I did go to her concerts 1243 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 2: and she came out of a chicken and it was 1244 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 2: phenomenal and she is phenomenal. And she got whacked. Do 1245 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 2: you remember Katie, by the way, who's bonsoring this segmud 1246 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 2: the Week. 1247 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 1: In Review with two degrees fighting for fear for Kiwi business. 1248 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 2: Do you remember Cadie she got whacked on the head 1249 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 2: of that concert? 1250 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 24: Not remember that. 1251 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 2: I'm under details mean in this marriage, clearly? Are you 1252 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 2: going to. 1253 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 10: Yeah? 1254 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 8: Good, I'm good. 1255 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 25: Remember she got waked on the head by a chicken. 1256 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't a chicken. She came out of the chicken. 1257 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 2: But when she came out, it. 1258 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 24: Wasn't a chicken. But we told the kids it was 1259 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 24: a chicken. 1260 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1261 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 2: Oh, that's why I'm trying to retell the story. 1262 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 24: We had to tell out. 1263 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 27: And then I got abused on social media for taking 1264 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 27: kids that they claim were too young and underage to 1265 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 27: be at it. It's such a graphic, you know, risque concert. 1266 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 27: At the time, I took a lot of grief for it, 1267 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 27: did you, But I didn't know she was going to 1268 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 27: come out of a giant you know what that we 1269 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 27: said was a chicken. 1270 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 24: Kids like, what's that? What did she come out? 1271 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 25: She just came out of chicken. Let's just go with chicken. 1272 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 2: Let's go with the chicken. 1273 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:03,439 Speaker 25: Can we keep moving? 1274 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 2: You know, it was a big You got to explain 1275 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 2: this because it was a big There was big scaffolding 1276 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 2: on the stage. 1277 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 26: God, why is it less disturbing that she's come out 1278 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 26: of a chicken? 1279 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 2: That is true, it's not a bad point. And if 1280 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 2: the kids had been alert, the next question would have 1281 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 2: been as why would you come out of a chicken? So, 1282 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 2: but no one asked that question anyway. So they've got 1283 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 2: big scaffolding on the stage and she's climbing up and 1284 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 2: down the scaffolding and at one point she moved and 1285 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 2: one of the crossbars came down and like smacked her 1286 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 2: full on in the head, and I thought, this is concussion. 1287 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 2: If this had been super Rugby, she would have been 1288 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,080 Speaker 2: off straight away. Concert would have been canceled and she 1289 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 2: would have gone to the HIABN and she probably wouldn't 1290 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 2: have come back. But she carried on because she's a trooper. 1291 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 24: She's a pro. 1292 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,439 Speaker 2: That's what I took out of that, because that cost 1293 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 2: us eight thousand, six hundred and fifty seven dollars to 1294 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,120 Speaker 2: take five kids to that concert. Didn't remember that. You 1295 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 2: won't remember that, of course. 1296 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 24: And probably none of them even remember it. That's the 1297 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 24: irony when you do amazing things. 1298 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 2: Really walked into the room and he said, do you 1299 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 2: remember the such and such at Fiji? And she goes no, 1300 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 2: And that was just another hole of. 1301 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 25: Oh, my goodness, complete my goodness. But do you remember 1302 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 25: do you remember those qbs that you used to get 1303 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 25: from the Oh? I remember all those? 1304 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1305 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah. 1306 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 2: Josh, one of our kids he collected. What did he 1307 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 2: collect that we quite like? What was he into? 1308 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 7: Oh? 1309 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 24: The mighty beans? 1310 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 2: Mighty beans. 1311 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:24,920 Speaker 24: They weren't from the supermarket, though. 1312 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 2: No one had a bigger collection of mighty beans than 1313 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 2: the little Josh. 1314 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 24: I think I've still got them. I'm keeping them for grants. 1315 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 2: And that's another thing I need to talk to you 1316 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 2: about the crap that accumulates him. That the crap accumulation 1317 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 2: is just next level. 1318 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 25: No, let's go, let's go bot on birds. 1319 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 22: On the other foot, though, what about the Marino Cardi 1320 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 22: collection that's got to be bulging out, and I wear 1321 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 22: it every day. 1322 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 24: From purchasing any more of those to. 1323 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 2: My my supporting New Zealand industry Marino collection, I wear 1324 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 2: literally every day, so I get to you when you 1325 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 2: s out of them. Now that look, I'm so misbeciety. 1326 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 2: My sincere apologies hold debut my cruise collection on. 1327 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,919 Speaker 22: I'm getting into fast fashion. 1328 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,920 Speaker 26: Once you go past sixty? Do you not just have 1329 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,200 Speaker 26: to not change your look anymore? Can't you just settle 1330 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 26: on something and that's it for now? 1331 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 2: The age in life comes into the back. 1332 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 24: I fear that's what he's doing, Glenn. That's what worries me. 1333 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 25: That's what I'm meaning. 1334 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,560 Speaker 24: No, it's too much. 1335 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 2: My friend Iddy, which is where I get some of 1336 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 2: my clothes from, and he's into what he calls quiet luxury. Yeah, 1337 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 2: that's it. Quiet luxury where you get this look whereby 1338 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 2: it's just it's it is what it is. You know 1339 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It doesn't have labels anymore and all 1340 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, and I'm sort of I'm rocking that. 1341 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 27: And it's interesting how expensive quiet luxury turns out to 1342 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 27: be the pan. 1343 01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 25: It's costly quiet luxury. I need to get we need 1344 01:04:59,760 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 25: to get. 1345 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 22: Actually, there's a great op shop up at Mazkana where 1346 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 22: you guys are. 1347 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 25: You got to go down there. It's fantastic. 1348 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 2: Katie's a regularly do the quiet op shopping. Katie is 1349 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,919 Speaker 2: a regular. Katie's got a gold card at the op 1350 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 2: shop in Madicana and. 1351 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 24: She got but I should because it is a good one. 1352 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 2: It's a good one through. Yeah, Tim, talk to me. 1353 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 2: QB's at your place. Are you a collector? Have you 1354 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 2: seen them? Do you know what we're on about? 1355 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 25: Are you kidding me? 1356 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,000 Speaker 22: I know what the business model is here. They give 1357 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 22: you free stuff, then they charge you a display box 1358 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 22: nine bucks. 1359 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 25: That's why they're doing it. So we've got we've got QB's. 1360 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 22: We have Actually, we've had some discussions about qbs because 1361 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,919 Speaker 22: it's not the QBS that's the issue. It's the it's 1362 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 22: the packaging around the QBS that it's left all over 1363 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,080 Speaker 22: the house and who picks it up? 1364 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:45,919 Speaker 25: Mom and dad? 1365 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,880 Speaker 2: So here QBS on your part, but let's not go 1366 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 2: down that. 1367 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,560 Speaker 22: Well well no, no, no, it's it's an it's an 1368 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 22: opportunity to get them to pick up their own damn. 1369 01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 2: Po Would you say that this is because I like 1370 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 2: the plants they gave away, the little shops all that. 1371 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 2: So I understood that this seems to me to be stupid. 1372 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,919 Speaker 2: Is it taking off in your view? Is it a thing? 1373 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 25: No, it's an absolute thing. And it's it's on the 1374 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 25: back of minecraft. So yes. 1375 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 22: And it's the collection thing, just like with your Marino 1376 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,920 Speaker 22: Cardi's people like to collect stuff. That's just what it is. 1377 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 2: Okay, can I I want to talk to you about 1378 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 2: influences in Tomomi Ka Okay, so, so brace yourself for that. 1379 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,760 Speaker 2: Thirteen minutes past eight. 1380 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 1381 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 1: by News. 1382 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 2: Talks it B News Talks it Be sixteen past eight. 1383 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,479 Speaker 1: The Week in Review with two degrees fighting for fear 1384 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 1: for Kiwi business. 1385 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 2: Mike may be quiet elegance, however, is this is where 1386 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 2: you're going? You might want to change the rip jeans now. 1387 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 2: I'm wear a nice set of rip jeans this morning 1388 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 2: and it was black. There was a pair of black 1389 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 2: jeans this morning with no rips, or a pair of 1390 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 2: blue jeans with rips, and I've gone blue with rips 1391 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 2: and I'm looking really good. 1392 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:59,520 Speaker 25: Mike, trust your age. You're sixty put on the jeans 1393 01:06:59,520 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 25: without them. 1394 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 2: Sort them out, Katie. Tell them about age, tell them 1395 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,480 Speaker 2: about talking about age, Go and tell them now go 1396 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,040 Speaker 2: oh yeah, aging. 1397 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,400 Speaker 27: Aging is fifty percent attitude to aging. So if you 1398 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 27: think and talk to yourself that you're getting old eror 1399 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 27: you finished sentences worth for my age like I'm doing 1400 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 27: well for my age, then you aures on a cellular 1401 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,360 Speaker 27: level telling your body to age faster. So the key 1402 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 27: thing you can do you don't need to fight it, 1403 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 27: but you just need to keep thinking about your vitality 1404 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 27: and that gives you better longevity and health span versus 1405 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 27: life span and being chronically ill. 1406 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 2: So that okay. 1407 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,560 Speaker 25: So the measure, the measure isn't your age. The measure 1408 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 25: is my imagination and my eyes. Put the non rip 1409 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 25: genes on. 1410 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 8: Oh no, you got to. 1411 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:42,919 Speaker 2: You got to. You got to have a certain figure 1412 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 2: to word and will to have you know what I mean? 1413 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 25: Oh I see, Okay, that's. 1414 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,960 Speaker 2: How it goes now, Katie, this song, we did the 1415 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 2: tourism thing this week with the micro influencers and the 1416 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 2: influencers and the people and all the money they're spending. Now, you, 1417 01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 2: as I tried to point out, are an influencer. Although 1418 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 2: you don't make money from it, and you deliberately don't 1419 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 2: make money from it, despite the many people who who 1420 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 2: you know, broke your doorstep with offers of kindness and 1421 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 2: financial reward. Does influencing work. 1422 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:13,840 Speaker 24: Unquestionably? 1423 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 27: Young eyeballs are on social media and so you've got 1424 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 27: to be where they are. I don't actually believe the 1425 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,599 Speaker 27: metrics stack up as much as they claim they do, 1426 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 27: because how you measure it is really interesting in terms 1427 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 27: of engagement, and is engagement you know, how do you 1428 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,679 Speaker 27: measure with that person actually went and bought that product 1429 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 27: or did they just look at your ad? 1430 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 24: And the other thing that influencing. I don't think people 1431 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 24: realize there's huge money in it. 1432 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 27: They're incredibly lucrative deals they're offering, but I find them 1433 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 27: so transactional. They make my skin crawl because the way 1434 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 27: they come at you is quite aggressive. You know, you 1435 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,040 Speaker 27: do this for us, and we'll give you X, and 1436 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 27: it's usually a large sum of money. But what you 1437 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,559 Speaker 27: have to do for them is you have to run all. 1438 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:52,800 Speaker 24: This content past them. 1439 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,520 Speaker 27: You have to hijack your own Instagram with reels or whatever. 1440 01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:00,719 Speaker 24: You paid for a yeah, and you become kind. 1441 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 25: Of you're the performing seal you. I don't like it. 1442 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:05,640 Speaker 25: I don't the seal perform. 1443 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 27: It feels wrong. I just don't feel comfortable with it. 1444 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 27: So so I don't. I don't like to engage in 1445 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,640 Speaker 27: that aspect of it. Might, however, is talking me into it, 1446 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 27: wants me to because then he can retire because it's 1447 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,679 Speaker 27: very lucrative. 1448 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:22,800 Speaker 2: How lucrative? How much? How much would you warn if 1449 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,360 Speaker 2: is it teens of thousands? Tens of thousands for a 1450 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 2: single thing with a company? 1451 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,720 Speaker 27: Yep, And if you're doing a campaign or if you're 1452 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:32,600 Speaker 27: I mean, there are different you know, you can be 1453 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 27: an ambassador, you can be a face of a company. 1454 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:35,839 Speaker 24: You can just endorse a product. 1455 01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,599 Speaker 27: I got sent a thing the other day whereby you know, 1456 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,680 Speaker 27: what is your fee to do x amount. 1457 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 24: Of coverage with this new product? 1458 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,559 Speaker 27: And but but whatever it is, you have to do 1459 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 27: this for us, And that immediately puts me off, and 1460 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 27: so but everybody, it depends on followers and engagement all 1461 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 27: that stuff. 1462 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 24: I mean, the people with you know, lots and. 1463 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 27: Lots of followers, they can name their price and they 1464 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,160 Speaker 27: usually get it, and they're making hundreds. 1465 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 24: Of thousands of dollars, just huge money. 1466 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 2: Very important question just coming on the text Mike, just 1467 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 2: a question. Does Kate sing the diamond fusion jingle? That's 1468 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 2: what they're saying, Just Kate sing the diamond fusion jingle? 1469 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:19,840 Speaker 24: Wow? Maybe jingles? Maybe there's more money? 1470 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:24,679 Speaker 2: And are you saying no? I haven't heard her no yet. 1471 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 25: Because it's jingles. It's jingles. 1472 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 22: Great Rachel Rachel sings jingles. Get into it. It's a 1473 01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 22: great time. 1474 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 2: Is there money in jingle singing? 1475 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:32,200 Speaker 21: Yeah? 1476 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:33,880 Speaker 25: There is, there is, there's a bit, there's a bit. Hey, 1477 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 25: can I can I do a take on the lunches? 1478 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:36,559 Speaker 25: And then. 1479 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 2: I mean that was pretty good. 1480 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 8: Do we do that? 1481 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 2: I mean that's money, that's gold right there. Sorry, we 1482 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,800 Speaker 2: were saying, yeah, you know, you know. 1483 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 22: The lunches, the lunches thing, the whole school lunches thing. 1484 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,559 Speaker 25: It's just an example. It's an example of policy that 1485 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 25: doesn't understand human behave. It's always going to be troublesome 1486 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,200 Speaker 25: because kids don't eat their lunch. 1487 01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,639 Speaker 22: They either don't eat their lunch even when you make it, 1488 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,000 Speaker 22: or they do eat almost anything. Because this week I 1489 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 22: heard about a toddler at kindy whose mum discovered that 1490 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:18,559 Speaker 22: she had eaten eighteen glass pebbles while at kindy and 1491 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,160 Speaker 22: Mum only discovered this when. 1492 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:25,960 Speaker 25: She was changing the napping. Oh my goodness, sorry, I 1493 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:26,680 Speaker 25: just had to turn it. 1494 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 2: It's so true, isn't. It's not like we don't have 1495 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,599 Speaker 2: teens of decades of evidence about kids and lunches and 1496 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 2: what we're doing, yet we still, all these years later, 1497 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,240 Speaker 2: managed to turn it into Okay, sing us out Katie 1498 01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:42,280 Speaker 2: the jingles. What's your favorite gilead you recorded? Don't spend now? 1499 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,400 Speaker 22: Oh, come on, cleaning you shall, Come on, Katie, let's 1500 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 22: all do it together. 1501 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:50,559 Speaker 25: Let's do want one, two three. Don't spend in our 1502 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 25: cleaning you shall? 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So it's just for 1521 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,360 Speaker 2: the week only at Chemists Warehouse got to win nineteen March. 1522 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,760 Speaker 2: In addition to visiting the local chemist Warehouse tore you 1523 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 2: can order online if you like, click and COLLECTI if 1524 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,759 Speaker 2: you want saves time, fast delivery, same day delivery, home delivery, 1525 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 2: teas and sea supply charges could apply there as well, 1526 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 2: but it's all on great savings every day get amongst 1527 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:03,919 Speaker 2: with Chemist Warehouse. I can simply sing the Cheesdale Cheersdale 1528 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 2: cheese jingle just for all time sakes. No, we're not 1529 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,960 Speaker 2: doing requests this morning, Besser, but good try and Mike. 1530 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 2: She didn't answer the questions a lot of people saying 1531 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 2: the same thing. There was no denial, yes or no. 1532 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 2: Now have shot see I I think if you just 1533 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 2: played me that and said what's Kate been up too lately. 1534 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,760 Speaker 2: That's moonlight jingle singing in my book all day long. 1535 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 2: That's got her voice all over it, hasn't it. There's 1536 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,759 Speaker 2: no question. If I said to you, is that Amy 1537 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,120 Speaker 2: Schumer or Kate Hawksby, you'd go, that's Kate Hawksby all 1538 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:35,679 Speaker 2: day long. 1539 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 4: Clean shot. 1540 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,439 Speaker 2: The more the more I hear that, more worried I 1541 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 2: actually am. I mean not that I don't want her 1542 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,920 Speaker 2: to be a jingle singer, it's just she's never talked 1543 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,439 Speaker 2: to me about it. And then, of course, if she 1544 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:53,000 Speaker 2: turns out to be a shady jingle singer, what else 1545 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,640 Speaker 2: has she been doing that I don't know about. You know, 1546 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,559 Speaker 2: if you can go sing jingles and make a living 1547 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,679 Speaker 2: out of singing jingles, and where else has she been? Mike, 1548 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 2: you're a radio influencer. Just ask your listeners who bought 1549 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,880 Speaker 2: the snow cannons. There was nothing. See, there's nothing in 1550 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,120 Speaker 2: it for me. I don't know if you went out 1551 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:06,720 Speaker 2: and bought a snow cannon, because I said I went 1552 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,680 Speaker 2: and bought a snow can And that's on you, not me. 1553 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,360 Speaker 2: I'm not making any money out of I'm not the 1554 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,519 Speaker 2: snow cannon business. I wish it was to be frank 1555 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 2: because as soon as I saw the McGuire's snow cannon, 1556 01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 2: I thought to myself. 1557 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:19,759 Speaker 26: You've missed the snow canon boat. 1558 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,200 Speaker 2: I missed the snow cannon boats. Yeah, the snow cannon 1559 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,640 Speaker 2: boat had sailed by the time I'd got to it. Unfortunately, 1560 01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,000 Speaker 2: Elbow I got to ask Murray about this. I'm watching 1561 01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:32,640 Speaker 2: Martin of By Island yesterday in the White House with 1562 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 2: Trump and Elban Easy, who's been called a dumper, has 1563 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,800 Speaker 2: not got any exemptions on tariffs, hasn't even got the 1564 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,719 Speaker 2: Washington yet. What's going on. 1565 01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 1: News, opinion and everything in between. The mic Hoskin breakfast 1566 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,240 Speaker 1: with the range rover villa designed to intrigue and use 1567 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 1: togs dead be Mike. 1568 01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,240 Speaker 2: I bought Kim Chee Sprinkles because of you. Well, a 1569 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,600 Speaker 2: lot of people bought Kim Chee Sprinkles because of me 1570 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,400 Speaker 2: and Kim Tree Sprinkles. As far as I know, as 1571 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 2: a small company in Hamilton from memory, they're doing fantastically well, 1572 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,080 Speaker 2: and you will too, because once you start taking Kim 1573 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 2: Tree Sprinkles, there is no looking back. Twenty three minutes away. 1574 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 16: From nine International correspondence with Ensite Eye Insurance, Peace of 1575 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 16: Mind for New Zealand Business Mary Old greetings to. 1576 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 2: You, my friend. 1577 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, good morning, Michael, good morning. 1578 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,120 Speaker 2: Now listen, I'm going to play you just a little 1579 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,559 Speaker 2: bit of this guy. One, tell me who it is, 1580 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 2: and two what's he saying? Listen? 1581 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,360 Speaker 7: Maybe she might try some other Australian animals. 1582 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 8: That is Prime Minister Anthony Albaneasy talking about this boody, 1583 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:39,840 Speaker 8: half witted American animal influencer. I have no idea what 1584 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 8: that is. But she's the woman who picked up a wombat, 1585 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,720 Speaker 8: dangled the poor little thing in front of this half 1586 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,360 Speaker 8: witted Australian who's acting like a chicken, and then puts 1587 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,080 Speaker 8: it down. As mama wombat comes. We're rolling across the 1588 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:52,800 Speaker 8: road going to take a leg off. I mean, it's 1589 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,960 Speaker 8: just stupid. I don't know what influences are. 1590 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 2: I no, I know. The reason I played it is 1591 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,920 Speaker 2: I'm worried about Elbow's health. I mean, the guy, is 1592 01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:02,719 Speaker 2: he getting worse? 1593 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 8: I don't think so. He's always sad in that way. 1594 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 2: I mean, well, I listened to him a lot, and 1595 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 2: he used to sound slightly annoying, and now he just 1596 01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:16,519 Speaker 2: sounds fantastically annoying. And he's slurring his words increasingly and 1597 01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,639 Speaker 2: I just wonder if there's something going on there and 1598 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,479 Speaker 2: he's ands he's I don't know what's good. Is this 1599 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 2: a point of conversation among the Australian public as you 1600 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 2: head to an election or as at that's just Elbow. 1601 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,879 Speaker 8: I think that's just Elbow. But look, make no mistake. 1602 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,800 Speaker 8: I mean his delivery isn't the best, of course, And 1603 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,719 Speaker 8: in the same way Kevin Rudd got on people's nerves, 1604 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,640 Speaker 8: the same way you know, I'm the smartest man in 1605 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,200 Speaker 8: the room, Turnbull got on people's nerves and Scott Morrison 1606 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,800 Speaker 8: with that smug gren. I mean, look, it doesn't take 1607 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 8: a whole lot to get really, really grumpy with our 1608 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 8: political leaders. And Elbow does sound like he's mincing it, 1609 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,320 Speaker 8: you know, he's shoving his words, you know, through a 1610 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 8: bloody grinder of some sort. But he's still the Prime 1611 01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:01,400 Speaker 8: Minister heading into election campaign and there's not going to 1612 01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,960 Speaker 8: be too much concern about the way he speaks because 1613 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,080 Speaker 8: we've got a very big election coming up and there's 1614 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:07,679 Speaker 8: lots of moving parts, is there. 1615 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 2: Well, one of the moving parts is I watched mister 1616 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 2: Martin of Ireland in the White House yesterday with Trump 1617 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,840 Speaker 2: a small island nation of five million people. And I'm 1618 01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,360 Speaker 2: watching mister Elbin Easy, a member of Five Eyes, a 1619 01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,040 Speaker 2: nation of twenty seven million people, not to mention orcus, 1620 01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,680 Speaker 2: and he hasn't even got to Washington yet. What's going on? 1621 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,800 Speaker 8: Well, there's no point God to Wasdington if no one's 1622 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:27,920 Speaker 8: going to see him. 1623 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,559 Speaker 2: Why hasn't he been invited? Why hasn't someone engineered something 1624 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,040 Speaker 2: if Ireland there? For God's sake, Surely we've got down 1625 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,760 Speaker 2: the list to the point where my fellow five Eyes 1626 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,160 Speaker 2: member plus member of Aucus might just get an invite. 1627 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,880 Speaker 8: Well you'd think so, but as we all know, as 1628 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,719 Speaker 8: the world's finding out rather quickly, the Trump White House 1629 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,960 Speaker 8: mark two is a very strange beast, much different from 1630 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:56,720 Speaker 8: the first time round. He's clearly unrestrained. He doesn't care 1631 01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 8: about being reelected, or perhaps he does for a third term. 1632 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,720 Speaker 8: We have to wait see. But look, I mean, I'm 1633 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 8: sure Albaneze would love to be invited, because he would 1634 01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,799 Speaker 8: love to go there and put Australia's case for special treatment. 1635 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,400 Speaker 8: Australia is a Five Eyes partner. Australia is spending billion, 1636 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 8: four hundred billion dollars on these buddy submarines that may 1637 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:19,160 Speaker 8: never ever arrive. Australia's got rare earth minerals that could 1638 01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 8: be part of any negotiations. But the phone call has 1639 01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,840 Speaker 8: not come from the White House saying please Elbow, come 1640 01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:25,200 Speaker 8: on up. 1641 01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,519 Speaker 2: It's just so. It worries me in the sense that 1642 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,280 Speaker 2: from it this is gristin mill for old Dutton, isn't 1643 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a guy who can then go 1644 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,200 Speaker 2: look at Elbow. He's stuck here in Australia. He's not 1645 01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,439 Speaker 2: on the stage, he's not doing the deals, he's not 1646 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,120 Speaker 2: in the room, and I think that potentially plays with people, 1647 01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:40,519 Speaker 2: doesn't it. 1648 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,760 Speaker 8: Not Really, I think Dutton is being exposed as a 1649 01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 8: bit of a wally, to be honest. I mean everybody 1650 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 8: here is even Arthur Cinnadinus, extremely well regarded former ambassador 1651 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,080 Speaker 8: to Washington under Scott Morrison. He was on television in 1652 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 8: the night saying there's no point Trump's not interested in 1653 01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,439 Speaker 8: any on boy from Australia. There's nothing can be done 1654 01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:08,000 Speaker 8: until the Trump administration settles down and stops just flailing 1655 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,599 Speaker 8: around like you know, like a but he drunk sailor 1656 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,519 Speaker 8: on Payday. There's not much point in doing anything. And 1657 01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,200 Speaker 8: that's from a former coalition ambassador who is extremely well 1658 01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:19,360 Speaker 8: regarded on both sides. 1659 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,680 Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this question then, because this 1660 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 2: instant he said, here's I don't know if you're following this, 1661 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 2: but Keir Starmer, to my eye, is little child of 1662 01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,120 Speaker 2: a genius. Domestically is a dog's breakfast, but internationally he 1663 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 2: plays the stage very well. At the moment, he's filling 1664 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,200 Speaker 2: a very nice gap in that European Trump thing with 1665 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:37,919 Speaker 2: the war. So he hasn't responded tariff wise, and he's 1666 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,680 Speaker 2: keeping his powder dry. Europe's gone nuts, is Albanese he's 1667 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 2: smart not to reply in tariffs and other words retaliatory 1668 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 2: tariffs or is he playing it smart like Starma. 1669 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,639 Speaker 8: I think it's the latter. And Albiniz he's made the case. 1670 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 8: I can think of three occasions he's been asked this 1671 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 8: and he says, no, There'll be no retalient tariffs from Australia. 1672 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,160 Speaker 8: We hold all the cards here. I mean, Donald Trump 1673 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:07,320 Speaker 8: can whack twenty five percent tariffs on Australian a steel 1674 01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,080 Speaker 8: and aluminium, it doesn't really matter. It's zero point two 1675 01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,880 Speaker 8: of one percent of exports that Australia puts out every year. 1676 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,800 Speaker 8: Six hundred and fifty billion dollars of exports. So that's 1677 01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:19,640 Speaker 8: only small beer really, And I mean, why do you 1678 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,719 Speaker 8: want to go poking the bear again. There's no point. 1679 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,080 Speaker 8: Australia is a small player, I mean, and to be honest, 1680 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:31,560 Speaker 8: I mean, America's isn't the biggest training partner. Australia has 1681 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 8: interesting this week for me. The Westpac boss over here said, listen, 1682 01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,840 Speaker 8: don't worry about Washington. Pivot and look north. There's Indonesia 1683 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,360 Speaker 8: on our northern doorstep two odd maybe million people. They 1684 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:43,800 Speaker 8: all need to eat, they all need to be clothed, 1685 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:47,080 Speaker 8: they all need stuff that Australia can supply. Don't fret 1686 01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,760 Speaker 8: about Washington. Look to diversify. 1687 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, the diversification I g has been around for ages. 1688 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,840 Speaker 2: I take on this tear a plot, the caravan thing. 1689 01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:57,000 Speaker 2: Remember when you and I were talking and I'd seen 1690 01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 2: that article on television with the Daily Teller whatever the 1691 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,120 Speaker 2: crime reporter was. He said, it's probably a drug dealer 1692 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,120 Speaker 2: looking to stitch up a bit of sentence. And that 1693 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,479 Speaker 2: turns out the scandal seems to be how they claim 1694 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,360 Speaker 2: they knew from day one, Yet nobody's they didn't want 1695 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:13,599 Speaker 2: to utter those words. Publicly. 1696 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,360 Speaker 8: That's exactly what it looks like, isn't it. I mean, 1697 01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,759 Speaker 8: who knew what when? Well, I mean, that's all very murky, 1698 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:24,200 Speaker 8: but it's emerged that well it's alleged, I shouldn't say emerge. 1699 01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,639 Speaker 8: It's alleged that there's a thirty five year old alleged 1700 01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:30,560 Speaker 8: drug dealer here jump bail skipped away on a boat overseas. 1701 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 8: He set up this scheme, this very elaborate scheme, in 1702 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 8: the hope that he could then provide information to federal police, 1703 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,120 Speaker 8: to New South Wales police and yet a reduced sentence. 1704 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:45,599 Speaker 8: Who he came home. He's apparently living in Turkey these days. 1705 01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,240 Speaker 8: He's a former gym and childcare center owner who dabbled 1706 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 8: in drug dealing. Anyway, the police of the authority is 1707 01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,080 Speaker 8: out saying too much about it. But the Telegraph again, 1708 01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,720 Speaker 8: the Murdock press is all over this this morning and 1709 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,000 Speaker 8: just remains me seeing how get this feller back if 1710 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,400 Speaker 8: there's any truth in it. But you know, I mean 1711 01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,479 Speaker 8: the whole caravan thing. Look, it was a dead old 1712 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 8: caravan that explosives couldn't have gone off they were so old, 1713 01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:13,080 Speaker 8: and there was no detonator and drawn and crayon or 1714 01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:18,679 Speaker 8: here's a synagogue. I mean, please, it's just it's stupid, honestly. 1715 01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,919 Speaker 2: How about Melbourne this weekend? A four hundred and fifty 1716 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:24,840 Speaker 2: thousand people over the. 1717 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,920 Speaker 8: Weekend, total sell out, total sell out? And why not? 1718 01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 8: It's the first race of the season and gee, where's 1719 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:32,800 Speaker 8: it's a spectacle. Have you ever been to one of these? 1720 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,280 Speaker 2: I see, here's the thing, Murray, here's my thing. I'm 1721 01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,040 Speaker 2: a massive IF one fan, and yet I've never been 1722 01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,640 Speaker 2: to an F one event. And because I don't want to, 1723 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,120 Speaker 2: because you because you cannot. You can get F one 1724 01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:49,040 Speaker 2: TV and you can get on board every single car 1725 01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,479 Speaker 2: and you can have the telemetry, you can have the 1726 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,360 Speaker 2: team radio at Albert Park. You can watch twenty cars 1727 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,280 Speaker 2: go real and then wait a minute and a half 1728 01:22:58,320 --> 01:22:59,120 Speaker 2: while that happens. 1729 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,920 Speaker 8: Again, it's a pretty big weekend. I've been to two 1730 01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,520 Speaker 8: of them down there as a corporate, as a corporate. 1731 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,679 Speaker 2: Bo See, I don't hang out in those circles, you see, Murray. 1732 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,120 Speaker 2: I just get the I just get the GA ticket. 1733 01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,519 Speaker 2: We're not all in the in the paddock club with 1734 01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:12,879 Speaker 2: you guys and your champago. 1735 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,400 Speaker 8: They are all sold out. They are sold out. That 1736 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,360 Speaker 8: the whole weekend sold out. Why not? You've got ten teams, 1737 01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,200 Speaker 8: two Australians and a key. We you got Oscar Piastre 1738 01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,000 Speaker 8: from McLaren. You've got Jack Dowan, the son of mc 1739 01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,759 Speaker 8: Mick Dowon. He's with Alphine and of course Liam Lawson 1740 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 8: in Red Book. I mean that's just me the three 1741 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:31,719 Speaker 8: Anzac drivers. 1742 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,080 Speaker 2: A bloody great indeed. All right mate, you go, well, 1743 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,920 Speaker 2: we'll catch up an extron as always. Murray olds at 1744 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:38,959 Speaker 2: eight forty five. 1745 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,679 Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard 1746 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:45,720 Speaker 1: By News talks. 1747 01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,080 Speaker 2: At b twelve to nine. Come on, Mike, you need 1748 01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:52,240 Speaker 2: to experience the Monaco GP before you before you go, Drew. 1749 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,000 Speaker 2: I everyone says that, I think the reality around the 1750 01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,640 Speaker 2: Monaco GP is that it's Monaco that you go to. 1751 01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,200 Speaker 2: The star of that show is Monaco, not the race. 1752 01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,599 Speaker 2: The races are bust. It's the streets are too small, 1753 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,479 Speaker 2: the cars are too big and unless it rains and 1754 01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,720 Speaker 2: everyone from would you like to go to if I 1755 01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 2: had to go, it's a very good question, gwinn. If 1756 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,439 Speaker 2: I had to, I'd go Silverstone, I'd go to the 1757 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,000 Speaker 2: British Corn Prix. I think if I can go to 1758 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,519 Speaker 2: the British Corn Prix and. 1759 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,639 Speaker 26: The and you won't see anything because it'll be raining. 1760 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,120 Speaker 2: That's its downside. So if you want to go for sunshine, 1761 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,680 Speaker 2: I wouldn't go to any of the American races. I 1762 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,439 Speaker 2: might go to Japan because the Japanese track is the 1763 01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,840 Speaker 2: best track in the world. But I'd probably still go 1764 01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,360 Speaker 2: to Silverstone because of the history and if you've got 1765 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,280 Speaker 2: a fine day in June July, there's something magical about 1766 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,560 Speaker 2: Silverstone or Immola. Actually no, in the morenything about it, 1767 01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,320 Speaker 2: more I go to Wimler. I think I'll go to Wimler. Mike, 1768 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:41,280 Speaker 2: how stupid can you be? 1769 01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:41,679 Speaker 25: Well? 1770 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:46,040 Speaker 2: Pretty stupid at times. But thanks for asking letting David 1771 01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,519 Speaker 2: Symore say there are no arguments that stand against Principal's 1772 01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,680 Speaker 2: treaty Bill. I've listened intently to submissions live and they've 1773 01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 2: been absolutely overwhelming. No, no, no, you missed his point. Maybe 1774 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,519 Speaker 2: you're the one who's stupid, mate. So the point he 1775 01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,640 Speaker 2: was trying to make was that there was, or the 1776 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,160 Speaker 2: point I was trying to make is there's a lot 1777 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,120 Speaker 2: of back and forth. Yes, the heaps of people hated 1778 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,200 Speaker 2: on the bill, of course there were, but what my 1779 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,439 Speaker 2: point was, and he was agreeing with, is you had 1780 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,080 Speaker 2: very articulate people hating on the bill, but you had 1781 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:16,479 Speaker 2: equally articulate people saying the bill's a good thing. So 1782 01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,920 Speaker 2: in totality, what you got out of it was a stablemate. 1783 01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,200 Speaker 2: So for every brilliant, articulate person who said this is rubbish, 1784 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,200 Speaker 2: I can find you an articulate, brilliant person who said 1785 01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:30,280 Speaker 2: it's good. Therefore it's a draw. Therefore what Seymour was 1786 01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,799 Speaker 2: trying to do actually makes perfect sense. Night Away from Nine. 1787 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:39,080 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News Togstead. 1788 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,080 Speaker 2: Be speaking of IF one. It is back this weekend, 1789 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,920 Speaker 2: of course Pinnacle of Motorsports, and naturally all lies are 1790 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,760 Speaker 2: going to be on Liam laws and Ki Driver taking 1791 01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,880 Speaker 2: on the world's best. It's going to be all action. 1792 01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,719 Speaker 2: So you can get in on that action with the tab. 1793 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 2: So what they're offering is a special five dollars booster 1794 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,400 Speaker 2: odds bet on Liam Lawson to win any race this 1795 01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,519 Speaker 2: Formula One season, so out of the twenty four races, 1796 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,000 Speaker 2: the bet is that he can win a race this season. 1797 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:03,800 Speaker 2: So if you placed a twenty dollars bet and he 1798 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,160 Speaker 2: wins any of those twenty four races, you win one 1799 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:10,439 Speaker 2: hundred bucks twenty one hundred back. That's a podium worthy offer. 1800 01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:13,559 Speaker 2: So the tab only available for a limited time. TB 1801 01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,240 Speaker 2: dot co dot NZ, tab dot co dot MZ to 1802 01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,960 Speaker 2: get your bet on minimum bet twenty bucks one per 1803 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,080 Speaker 2: customer ts and sees a player R eighteen. Of course, 1804 01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:25,760 Speaker 2: bet responsibly with the tab Husky Silverstone. Mike's standing at 1805 01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,200 Speaker 2: the end of Maggots and Becketts, see I mean just that, 1806 01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:32,439 Speaker 2: the Hamilton Strait, Maggots Becketts. I mean, come on, you 1807 01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,000 Speaker 2: get the real sense of speed and grip that you 1808 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,479 Speaker 2: don't get on television. I'm sure that part's true. I'm 1809 01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:37,960 Speaker 2: sure if you get in the right part of the 1810 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,080 Speaker 2: track and that's what you focus on, it's all go. 1811 01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:44,599 Speaker 2: Spa Mike is by far the best track. Yep, No, 1812 01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:46,960 Speaker 2: I mean no, you're right, Yes, it's a great track 1813 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,880 Speaker 2: that bet. And I can't remember the straight where you 1814 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:52,240 Speaker 2: come down before you go up the hill, the dip 1815 01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:55,040 Speaker 2: in there that's famous, the famous straight. I can't remember anyway, 1816 01:26:55,160 --> 01:27:00,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, that would be in the top for Imla Silverstone. 1817 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:08,000 Speaker 2: Probably Suzuka Spa, that Dutch thing. I quite like, that's weird. 1818 01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,679 Speaker 2: That's a weird little trick though. But it's got camber 1819 01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:12,519 Speaker 2: and slopes and it's by the sea and it's all 1820 01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:16,000 Speaker 2: sandy and that's quite fun. But anyway, a lot of 1821 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,960 Speaker 2: orange smoke. Five minutes away from nine. 1822 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:22,640 Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy. 1823 01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:23,360 Speaker 4: All year round. 1824 01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,639 Speaker 2: Now out of the yellow cheers. Meeting this morning with Ruta, 1825 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,799 Speaker 2: Mister Rutter of NATO formerly Holland, speaking of the Dutch Gromponi. 1826 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,280 Speaker 2: They talked about that, They talked about NATO, they talked 1827 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,640 Speaker 2: about the war. What they didn't took well they did, 1828 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,479 Speaker 2: as it turns out, what about Greenland was a. 1829 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:39,400 Speaker 4: Good election for us. 1830 01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:43,839 Speaker 13: As you know, it was not a referendum, it wouldn't 1831 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:44,240 Speaker 13: be called that. 1832 01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:45,719 Speaker 4: It was an individual election. 1833 01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,880 Speaker 13: But the person that did the best is a very 1834 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,879 Speaker 13: good person as far as we're concerned. 1835 01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:52,439 Speaker 4: And we have to have protection. 1836 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 13: So we're going to have to make a deal on that, 1837 01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,439 Speaker 13: and Denmark is not able to do that. You know, 1838 01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,240 Speaker 13: Denmark's very far away and really has nothing to do. 1839 01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,280 Speaker 13: What happens a boat landed there two hundred years ago 1840 01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 13: or something, and they say they have. 1841 01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,320 Speaker 4: Rights to it. I don't know if that's true. I 1842 01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,840 Speaker 4: don't think it is actually, But we've. 1843 01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 13: Been dealing with Denmark, we've been dealing with Greenland, and 1844 01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,800 Speaker 13: we have to do it. We really needed for national security, 1845 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,840 Speaker 13: and we have quite a few soldiers and maybe you'll 1846 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 13: see more and more soldiers go there. I don't know 1847 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,479 Speaker 13: what do you think about that, peet, So don't answer 1848 01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:25,960 Speaker 13: to that piece. 1849 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:28,320 Speaker 4: Don't answer that click. 1850 01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:33,040 Speaker 2: He literally is mental, isn't me. So what he's referring 1851 01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:34,479 Speaker 2: to is the people who won the election, as I 1852 01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,720 Speaker 2: told you on the program yesterday, are the Conservatives. So 1853 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,519 Speaker 2: that's what he's referring to as being a good win 1854 01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:43,320 Speaker 2: for him. They're slow paced in terms of some sort 1855 01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,360 Speaker 2: of independence. But what I also told you on the program, 1856 01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,960 Speaker 2: of the six major parties, every single one of them 1857 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,519 Speaker 2: wants nothing to do with America. So this idea that 1858 01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,640 Speaker 2: somehow they've won the election and he can park some 1859 01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 2: soldiers there and he's not really sure about Denmark, and 1860 01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,200 Speaker 2: that's a couple hundred years ago, and what the hell 1861 01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,719 Speaker 2: does history matter anyway? For goodness, So no one's actually 1862 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:05,160 Speaker 2: in Greenland remotely interested in America. They are interested in 1863 01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:11,439 Speaker 2: independence from Denmark, not to suddenly become co dependent or 1864 01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:12,919 Speaker 2: entirely dependent on America. 1865 01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,520 Speaker 26: Sorry, you should look up a bit about the Icebreakers. 1866 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,240 Speaker 26: That's even more random. 1867 01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:24,360 Speaker 2: Sorry to inject too many facts into the conversation. Warriors Tonight, 1868 01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:29,720 Speaker 2: what do we reckon? Easy? Easy and the f one? 1869 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,120 Speaker 2: So anyway, whatever you do this weekend, you have fun 1870 01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,759 Speaker 2: and we'll see you on Monday. 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