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Speaker 1: Women's World Rugby Cup. Business end, as they say, to

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Speaker 1: use an old cliche, semi final time with the Canadians

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Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. Doctor Pharah Palmer as the former All Black

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Speaker 1: men's captain and is with us. Good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 1: What have you made of the comp There seems to

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Speaker 1: be a gap globally speaking between the good teams and

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Speaker 1: the not so good teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, you know, if I look at

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Speaker 2: the scores that we used to put up against other

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Speaker 2: teams back when I was playing in the nineteen nineties,

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Speaker 2: things have definitely improved in the gaps closing. I think

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Speaker 2: we used to beat teams like we beat Canada back

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Speaker 2: in ninety ninety six eighty eight three, so we're not

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Speaker 2: kind of having those kind of scores at that level.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there are still some gaps, and I can

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Speaker 2: see everyone's improving. You know. I was super impressed with

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Speaker 2: South Africa and I think they're know in a couple

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Speaker 2: in another four or five years, they'll be really, really dangerous.

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Speaker 1: So the tide, the tide is rising.

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Speaker 2: It is rising. That's my perception, just looking at the

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Speaker 2: school level, looking at the level of resourcing that's going

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Speaker 2: into the coaching side, of things as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to take some time everyone to

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Speaker 2: get up to a higher level, but everyone's improving.

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Speaker 1: And your impression of our team since you played.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, you know, I hate kind of doing that comparison.

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Speaker 2: We were kind of like doing things with very little resourcing.

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Speaker 2: We had people that came from other sports. Now these

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Speaker 2: are women who have played rugby for a long period

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Speaker 2: of time. I think their school level is higher. I

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Speaker 2: think they're kicking kind of tactical game is much more efficient.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there's things that they're doing that we would

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Speaker 2: never have done our day. But we had some amazing

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Speaker 2: players in our day, and if they were playing now,

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Speaker 2: they probably would make the team.

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Speaker 1: So it looks like we'll play England in the final

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Speaker 1: with England to win. I mean, obviously we don't want

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Speaker 1: that to happen, but that's what most people say. Is

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Speaker 1: that how you see it? And what if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: what's happened to England? Why are they so good now?

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Speaker 2: We look, this is the best case scenario. But I

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Speaker 2: would say that the team and people who have been

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Speaker 2: in the black jersey would say, let's just focus on

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Speaker 2: the next game. So I would not take Canada lightly

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Speaker 2: at all and then and then of course England have

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Speaker 2: always been the one the rivals that we've kind of

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Speaker 2: focused on. I just think they've got a well rounded game.

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Speaker 2: You know, it used to be just about all their

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Speaker 2: forward pack, but now they've got some amazing backs as well,

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Speaker 2: and same with Canada. Canada has improved so much. You know,

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Speaker 2: the last time we played them was a draw. Before

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Speaker 2: that was a loss, so we've really got to look

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Speaker 2: at Canada first and not even focus on the next game.

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Speaker 1: Go well. Farah Palmer, former Black Firm's captain, of course.

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